[Q]Why is tethering so slow?? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

On my phone I get 15-20mbps on speak easy speed test
When I use googles android wifi tether or the verizon app I get 1mbps down
What gives? It seems lie the tether app is using 3g instead of 4g
I have tried wifi tether and the hotspot app and both have the same issue
I also searched and others are having the same problems but no solutions posted.
Anyone get wifi tether to use the 4g instead of the 3g? please post how

Yea same here.I've searched the Net looking for an answer but no luck.I even tried flashing different radios but no luck either...
I did that there's a WiFi tether beta but who knows how long before they get it working with 4g, not to mention make it compatible with every phone and network out there.
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heh. i go to the library often and will occasionally want to play Left 4 Dead online. problem is, the library's wifi is super slow and regularly disconnects.... so i will use pdanet to my laptop. theres no 4g in my area but at least the 3g is stable enough to keep me connected and my ping averages 200 - 300. sometimes itll jump as high as 700(which really sucks) but im at least surprised that the 3g can even do that.

So nobody has figured out why tethering only uses 3g instead of 4g????

Just figured I'd let you know that I let a guy tether his iPhone (just to show him LTE) to my Tbolt recently and he got 12dn/3up using the built-in tethering hotspot in CM7 (he ran the Speedtest.net app on his iPhone).

sp1kez said:
So nobody has figured out why tethering only uses 3g instead of 4g????
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It's not a universal problem. It sounds like a "just you" problem and maybe a few others. LTE works fine for me and I get 1.5-2 Megabytes per second on it with CM7.

sp1kez said:
So nobody has figured out why tethering only uses 3g instead of 4g????
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Well, it's not "just you". My phone won't USB tether if I have "LTE" radio selected. If I just select EVDO, then it will tether. Running OMGB.

sp1kez said:
So nobody has figured out why tethering only uses 3g instead of 4g????
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Not everyone is having the problem. Seems to only be a handful of people.

I'd say if you're running cm7 and you messed with the radio settings other than just using the toggle for 3g and lte/3g auto, that is why your tethering is not working. Don't mess with those and dont force it to LTE only.

Anyone ever figure this out?
I'm running stock rooted Galaxy Nexus and I'm having the same problem. No matter what method I use to tether it seems that the tether switches to the 3g radio after a few seconds of turning it on.
I know this is a TB thread, but I have the same problem so it must not be a TB issue...

Everyone posting is running aosp roms, could that be the issue? On shiftsense i get 10-15 down with pings around 100. I also use the wifi tether fix i posted in the general threads. Ive flashed the newest radios, but never change the settings for lte/cdma.
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I want to add another data point. I can tether to my android device and get about the same speeds I get on the phone. However, when I tether to a windows machine the speed is extremely slow <1mbps u/d. The only way to get better speeds on the PC is to run filterproxy on the phone. It's still about 35-50% of the bandwidth of the phone but a little better. Could this be related to like a MTU size on the PC or something timing out when being routed from the PC through the phone?

hgray said:
Anyone ever figure this out?
I'm running stock rooted Galaxy Nexus and I'm having the same problem. No matter what method I use to tether it seems that the tether switches to the 3g radio after a few seconds of turning it on.
I know this is a TB thread, but I have the same problem so it must not be a TB issue...
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I use Wireless Tether for Root Users on my TB, and I get about 10-15Mbps down, but only around 0.5Mbps upload.

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Tethering Tweaks?

I just bought a thunderbolt on impulse. This time yesterday I had no plan to do so, but I woke up on the wrong side of the bed I guess.
Love the phone thus far, though coming from an EVO I don't feel much difference beyond the speed of the device.
Does anyone know ways to improve tethering? Using the FCC speedtest app I am getting 5-7Mbps Down adn 20-30Mbps Up pings all around 100. On my tethered XOOM I am getting an impressive 4-6ish down, 3-6ish up with pings from 50-150.
The numbers when I started this thread were about 3 and 3 which still beats my evos 1 and 1 in optimal conditions. Thus far the Thunderbolt seems to connect to 4G instantly and unlike the EVO the stock tethering app is 4G friendly, but more to the point the 700mhz seems to be proving to be less placement centric. I can have it on a chair in the corner of the room under a desk and it seems to still get damn good speeds. Where I am used to putting my EVO on a windowsill and still wanting better signal.
All that aside, my point of this thread is, has anyone found tweaks that increase tethering performance? Are certain channels better, or does less/no encryption increase performance?
Bump. I know I can't be the only one who wants an answer to the best way to tether.
im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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wrb123 said:
im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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I've been tethering on my D1 for months and never been "detected". Tethered data looks like cell phone data to the provider. The only way I could see being detected is if the app you are using (the included one) sends some sort of flag. AFAIK the root wifi tether does nothing of the sort.
what are you guys using to tether? a 3rd party tethering app?
I've tethered heavily for at least 8 months on Incredible and Droid X. Never had an issue with detection. You will need root for third party app once root us achieved. Permanent root should come today. Then use app from market
wrb123 said:
im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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hay112 said:
what are you guys using to tether? a 3rd party tethering app?
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Once you have root this program will let you use wifi to tether: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
There is one in the market too, but I've never used it...
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Also been tethering for over a year on my Droid and have never had an issue with VZW. My highest month ever was only 4 gigs, I average around 1.5-2.
I think your reception issue is more in the higher quality of the VZW network compared to the lousy Sprint network your EVO is on. People don't like to admit it, but my friends on Sprint and AT&T all have spots in thier house where the phone only works, or works best, etc.... Verizon that is generally not an issue.
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I've been tethering on my D1 for months and never been "detected". Tethered data looks like cell phone data to the provider. The only way I could see being detected is if the app you are using (the included one) sends some sort of flag. AFAIK the root wifi tether does nothing of the sort.
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A bit off-topic here but I turned on MobileAP on Galaxy Tab (AT&T) so that I could check out the GTablet while I was @local officemax store, AT&T detects it and sent me email & SMS reminder that I will need to have a proper plan.
So yes, they should be able to detect.
or you could use easytether, and tether via usb. No root required.
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or you could use easytether, and tether via usb. No root required.
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It user browser string to detect web traffic :silly:
All of my roms have network speed tweaks that improve your tethering :good:

slow 4g tether

so i tried to wireless tether my phone today to see if my new 4g connection was faster than my at home internet. however during a download i was only getting about 108kb/sec which is waaaay slow for 4g. im getting 2-3 mbps on the phone. im using barnacle wifi tether. is it the app? if so what app should i be using? FYI i dont want to use the actual verizon feature because they limit how much you can download per month.
edit: dur, if i read first... 2-3 mbps is still pretty slow for 4g on your phone though. you could try wireless tether: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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found the problem. says in description that barnacle shares 3g connection. can anyone suggest a good 4g tether or wireless tether app? i tried the one listed here but i couldnt find it on the market only in the link.
dak_181 said:
found the problem. says in description that barnacle shares 3g connection. can anyone suggest a good 4g tether or wireless tether app? i tried the one listed here but i couldnt find it on the market only in the link.
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Get the one from Google. Verizon had Google take wifi-tether out of the market. Just make sure that you have install from unknown sources checked off.
that one still only says 3g and 2g in the description and it doesnt have a thunderbolt version. can anyone confirm it works with 4g and if so which version should i get?
It's a free app dude. Why not just try it?
because im out of town and dont have 4g and wont until monday.
I know that PDAnet claims to be capable of achieving very fast 4g speeds...I believe the description said 20-30 mbps, and it's a non rooted app. However, it isn't a wireless tethering app, you have to use a USB connection (or bluetooth, which will be slower.) If using a a USB cord is acceptable for you, or you can't find a wireless tethering app that you find to deliver adequite speeds for your needs, give that one a try.
Wifi tether worked for me i la,ok city,tampa, seattle should i continue, it has worked everywhere i have been either 4g or 3g,the phone is faster but it still works.
my screamin' lil' bamfed out tbolt

Does the WiFi tether app work like crap for anyone else?

Yes, I've done the routing fix. WiFi Tether functions, it just doesn't function well. I seem to be topping out at 20KBps with 4G, which is obviously pretty bad. And a bummer, too, since I was so looking forward to ditching EasyTether (crashes all the time, doesn't handle loss of 4G well). Anyone else had some problems here, or better yet, found a solution?
Using viperROM at the moment, for reference.
Yes!
Can't get the stock hotspot app to work either. My laptop connects fine but no data?
SteelROM_v1.01
Don't you have to have something in your plan to use the stock hotspot app? I've never tried.
I can't get Wifi Tether to work at all.
But Sprint Hot Spot works fine. With a Hot Spot Enabled ROM of course.
Yeah, same here. WiFi Tether doesn't work at all, fails on the starting wifi interface.
HotSpot worked fine in an enabled ROM
Branacle works great for me.
mswlogo said:
I can't get Wifi Tether to work at all.
But Sprint Hot Spot works fine. With a Hot Spot Enabled ROM of course.
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What kind of speeds you getting?
And what ROM?
Ugh. Unlocked hotspot app is even less functional. Stupid thing prevents my 4G from connecting, same as USB tether does on Sense. So aggravating. This is the entire reason I rooted to begin with, and there's no workaround

FoxFi

ok so look i know this is an app, but lets be honest how many of you actually go in that sub forum?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.foxfi
foxfi is a new wifi tether app that promises no root required, is free, and claims to have a fairly high rate of allowing tablets to connect. saw it in the e4gt forums and figured you guys might like to know . it claims most moto phones, gf is on hers so i cant verify if photon is one of them :/...
edit: ok just tested, tethered my e4gt to my gf's photon XD
no hacks or nothing needed we are both unrooted stock, it didnt like trying to tether with 4g tho, so its 3g speeds only :/
Sweet find for those who aren't rooted!
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Great Find!
I know you said no root required, but will it work on a stock rom and if so, will a carrier still be able to see if you are tethering like they can if you use wifi hotshot on a stock rom?
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foxfi
fyi....I just had total success with foxfi generating a hotspot for an ipad 2 and a transformer prime tablet from a Droid Global 2.
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I know you said no root required, but will it work on a stock rom and if so, will a carrier still be able to see if you are tethering like they can if you use wifi hotshot on a stock rom?
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my gf's photon is stock 198_7, works fine... as for if sprint knows i guess we will find out when our next bill comes huh?
I tried it on a photon running 198-7, flashed fresh this afternoon, rooted, unlocked bootloader with CWM applied. No go. FoxFi appears to initiate the stock hotpot app which in turn results in the IP registration error you get when launching the stock app. Tried with wifi on, but not connected, and with wifi off both suggested as troubleshooting steps by FoxFi.
Curious what others are experiencing using a blur rom
yea it will give taht error, but from what ive seen let it sit for 3-4 mins and it will finally re-register
shabbypenguin said:
ok so look i know this is an app, but lets be honest how many of you actually go in that sub forum?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.foxfi
foxfi is a new wifi tether app that promises no root required, is free, and claims to have a fairly high rate of allowing tablets to connect. saw it in the e4gt forums and figured you guys might like to know . it claims most moto phones, gf is on hers so i cant verify if photon is one of them :/...
edit: ok just tested, tethered my e4gt to my gf's photon XD
no hacks or nothing needed we are both unrooted stock, it didnt like trying to tether with 4g tho, so its 3g speeds only :/
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thank you thank you thank you ... it is buttah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shabbypenguin said:
yea it will give taht error, but from what ive seen let it sit for 3-4 mins and it will finally re-register
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As shabbypenguin stated mine does the same thing on wifi tether and this app....... Its normal and the data connection will come back
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Just try it and can say it only works on 3g , when I try it on 4g it gets disconnected
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I told a guy at work about this, he has big red (Droid charge), tried it out and OMG. I pulled 21 mb down and 10.5 up. Makes me want to switch. If only their phones weren't so damn expensive.
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My Photon
I have also made the connection on my Photon at 3g speeds. Is there anything at all that can be done to make it work at 4G speeds. My 4G does not disconnect when I am using it as a mobile hotspot. It appears that it is the FoxFi app and not the actual phone causing this issue.
Moto Photon Foxfi only in 3G mode and Alternative 4G tethering
I too believe that it is FoxFi that is causing the disconnection in the 4G signal when trying to activate it on the Motorola Photon (MB855). An alternative would just to grab your USB cable connect your laptop directly to your phone and get PdaNet app (I know this works on Windows with an Android Phone) and you can connect to the 4G. (with great speed too, I have gotten 1+ MB/s downstream) It's not wireless but at least it won't kill your battery and you can charge your phone at the same time!
And if you feel bad because all your friends stare you down because you are the only one connected you can get Virtual Router from codeplex website and you can turn your laptop into a hotspot
hopefully there will be a fix or a different application that does not require root
feel free to pm me with suggestions or questions
FOXFI
I got an update from PDAnet and FOXFI was the update and it works great. I have a Droid 3 and am not rooted.
Does it work with 4G? Or 3G.
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It works with 3G on my Droid3.
I'm rooted on my SE4GT, and pc sees Android34, but cannot connect.
I disconnected 4G also.
In FoxFi, in the upper right hand corner, there are Bytes that keep flashing from 1K/316 to 1K/0 etc. Don't know if that's an issue, whether the app is activated or not.
this is working great for me......I'm stock rooted on ek02. haven't checked 4g, but 3g works like a champ. i didn't have to modify anything.... i can imagine it probably won't be on the Android market long.
My acer a500 tablet see's the connection fine
It does not work on Xperia Play for Verizon. Hotspot starts but when connected to takes you to Verizon's hot spot page.
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(ICS) No WiFi with WiFi Tether? only 4G?

I can't believe I'm the only person to experience this.
Steps to recreate the issue:
Follow steps to remove flag using SQL Lite (Entitlement = 0)
Turn on WiFi connection and wait for it to connect
Lauch WiFi Tether 3.1 pre11 beta
Watch WiFi connection get turned OFF AUTOMATICALLY
Watch 4G LTE Turn on AUTOMATICALLY
Watch Verizon profit
Why??? Are we just not able to tether via wifi ? why is it called wifi tether? You mean 4G Tether right?
Also just tired FoxFi Tether and what do you know? WiFi mode has failed on your phone. Please use Bluetooth? LOL what is this garbage? is this a Verizon/Motorola thing?
Have never, ever seen this happen on HTC/Samsung phones.
Anyone pls?
ok, my first flame of the month: please take a logic 101 course, then reread your question. thank you!
Hey I even thanked you for attempting.
Regardless I would like to Tether using my WiFi connection and not Verizon's 4G.
Thanks! Anyone else care to take a stab at outsmarting me?
Why would you need to convert WiFi into uhh..WiFi?
Droid Razr MaXX
thomaskorink said:
Why would you need to convert WiFi into uhh..WiFi?
Droid Razr MaXX
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I don't. I just can't understand why it won't work? Does your phone turn off wifi?
It shouldn't. It should let me run tether through my net connection or any damn connection I choose, not Verizon. Yet it keeps turning it off. Turning off my connection. It's odd, strange. I feel like I'm being controlled and oppressed by "the man!"
First phone I've encountered that forces Wifi off (a perfectly good connection) to switch over to 4G/3G. I just find it strange.
I'm new to Motorola phones, well I had the v120c in 2000 So far they're quite strange compared to HTC/Samsung.
Okay well first off... I don't know why you did the SQL edit because you're using a third party app anyway.
Secondly... I can't name a phone where you can tether a WiFi connection into another hotspot... There'd just be no point. Your connection will always be equal to or worse than your phone's, so you might as well just connect directly.
You're talking about internet pass through. Where it takes an existing connection whether it be wifi or 3G/4G and let a device use that for internet. What you're doing is data wifi tethering. Where it turns off your wifi radio and turns your phone into an access point so other can connect it and use your 3G/4G data to connect to the internet.
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android-wifi-tether
This program enables tethering (via wifi) for "rooted" handsets running android (such as the Android DevPhone 1). Clients (your laptop for example) can connect via wifi (ad-hoc mode)and get access to the internet using the 3G, 2G mobile connection which is established by the handset.
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WiFi Tether does exactly what it says it does.
If you want to use your phone as a WiFi share to connect a computer that doesn't have WiFi then you'll need something like PdaNet instead.
IdowhatIwant said:
Hey I even thanked you for attempting.
Regardless I would like to Tether using my WiFi connection and not Verizon's 4G.
Thanks! Anyone else care to take a stab at outsmarting me?
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Wifi tether uses your phones data connection to the carrier as the source and tethers another device using the phones wifi radio. This is the definition of wifi tether.
None of the aftermarket apps will work. The only way I've got this to work is using the SQL hack and using the native wifi hotspot app.
To use your device in this fashion the wifi radio must drop its connection to your wifi router, connect to 4g or 3g and convert the internal wifi radio into a wireless hotspot. This is normal behavior.
What your referring to is internet pass through as was previously mentioned
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OP, there's plenty of confusion over what you're trying to accomplish here. Please tell us the entire path of how you'd like the data connection to follow.
Router,
Phone,
Wifi device?
sRDennyCrane said:
OP, there's plenty of confusion over what you're trying to accomplish here. Please tell us the entire path of how you'd like the data connection to follow.
Router,
Phone,
Wifi device?
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It sounds like he wants his phone to rebroadcast whatever wifi network he's connected so other devices can connect to it.
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From what it sounds like, perhaps he is wanting to share a protected wifi network using an unprotected hotspot? *shrug*
Perhaps he wants his phone to be like a USB wireless adaptor that connects to a wifi ap and not use 4g? (kinda want to know how to do that myself). I was able to with no problem on a g2x
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Just to test it out the capacity, tempreture etc. That's all. Never had a phone that forces WiFi off when you try to share the connection, even though, it's logical since you would need a connection in the 1st place.
I've since found out this can't be done on this phone.
FoxFi - "WiFi mode has failed on your phone"
If i am not mistaken, he is trying to use his pnone as a WiFi hotspot, using FoxFi (same as i am trying to do) using his data plan, but FoxFi does not seem to be working. I have the exact same issue, wheter using WiFi or Bluetooth, my laptop can not connect.
Any ideas?
Try Fox-fi again its been updated to work with the RAZR update. Worked like a charm.
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I'm new at this, and so I appreciate any help offered. Here's my problem,and it seems to affects the masses:
Droid Razr -not Rooted
ICS OTA
Foxfi will NOT work on my Razr. I've deleted, uninstalled, reinstalled and still NOTHING.
Some folks insist it works, well, it may on their phone, but NOT on mine.
I have 2 Razrs in the house, and it fails on both. All it does is suggest Bluetooth, and that fails, too!!!!
Any or all help is so very much appreciated. Paying for 4gb data, and only use 1gb is kind of silly. I continue to pay because new share plan would cost more.
Thanks!
Helron said:
I'm new at this, and so I appreciate any help offered. Here's my problem,and it seems to affects the masses:
Droid Razr -not Rooted
ICS OTA
Foxfi will NOT work on my Razr. I've deleted, uninstalled, reinstalled and still NOTHING.
Some folks insist it works, well, it may on their phone, but NOT on mine.
I have 2 Razrs in the house, and it fails on both. All it does is suggest Bluetooth, and that fails, too!!!!
Any or all help is so very much appreciated. Paying for 4gb data, and only use 1gb is kind of silly. I continue to pay because new share plan would cost more.
Thanks!
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Root your phone and use the sql editor to remove the entitlement check, but it does require root.
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Actually how about a router that's running wpa2 and a PSP that only supports wpa? My other radio on my router is 5GHz which my phone can't see. So wifi tether makes sense. I'm forced to use my mobile connection because wifi turned off.
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Jay Evans said:
android-wifi-tether
WiFi Tether does exactly what it says it does.
If you want to use your phone as a WiFi share to connect a computer that doesn't have WiFi then you'll need something like PdaNet instead.
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I disagree.. when i was on GB, i used SQLight to modify my hotspot to give myslef free tether, WITHOUT an app, just used stock one...but since ICS update, I can't do it.. does anyone know how to bypass it? SQlight won't open in ICS now...?!?!

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