Hi,
I would like to gather some general thoughts about SK17i's battery life.
I got mine about 8 days ago, everything is good, but the battery life is really disappointing.
In a typical work day I have
- wifi - off
- bluetooth - on during driving, that amount to about 1.5 hours
- mobile network data enabled
- probably 1 hour on phone call, max
- email checked every 30min interval
- browsing - maybe 45min, max
- no task killer software installed
- rooted, build number 368
I unplugged the phone from charger at 7.30am, and now is 6.00pm, 11hours later, the batt is at 20%, about to start giving warning message already.
Is this the typical batt hour you guys get?
one more thing, mine is an Indonesia set so it comes with host of program that I cant use in Malaysia. I have uninstalled most of them, except this MoxierPro which I cant seem to get rid of. I also noticed the program "Games by pop cap" seems to be running actively in the background even though I never start it.
hope to get more input on this.
thanks
Ben-G
chuinkee said:
Hi,
I would like to gather some general thoughts about SK17i's battery life.
I got mine about 8 days ago, everything is good, but the battery life is really disappointing.
In a typical work day I have
- wifi - off
- bluetooth - on during driving, that amount to about 1.5 hours
- mobile network data enabled
- probably 1 hour on phone call, max
- email checked every 30min interval
- browsing - maybe 45min, max
- no task killer software installed
- rooted, build number 368
I unplugged the phone from charger at 7.30am, and now is 6.00pm, 11hours later, the batt is at 20%, about to start giving warning message already.
Is this the typical batt hour you guys get?
one more thing, mine is an Indonesia set so it comes with host of program that I cant use in Malaysia. I have uninstalled most of them, except this MoxierPro which I cant seem to get rid of. I also noticed the program "Games by pop cap" seems to be running actively in the background even though I never start it.
hope to get more input on this.
thanks
Ben-G
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yeah..same with me..the battery life seems short..
chuinkee said:
Hi,
I would like to gather some general thoughts about SK17i's battery life.
I got mine about 8 days ago, everything is good, but the battery life is really disappointing.
In a typical work day I have
- wifi - off
- bluetooth - on during driving, that amount to about 1.5 hours
- mobile network data enabled
- probably 1 hour on phone call, max
- email checked every 30min interval
- browsing - maybe 45min, max
- no task killer software installed
- rooted, build number 368
I unplugged the phone from charger at 7.30am, and now is 6.00pm, 11hours later, the batt is at 20%, about to start giving warning message already.
Is this the typical batt hour you guys get?
one more thing, mine is an Indonesia set so it comes with host of program that I cant use in Malaysia. I have uninstalled most of them, except this MoxierPro which I cant seem to get rid of. I also noticed the program "Games by pop cap" seems to be running actively in the background even though I never start it.
hope to get more input on this.
thanks
Ben-G
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yeah its really disappointed but in my mini pro its gave me minimum 24 hours with all time edge+sync+50% brightness. not rooted. stock settings. you know one day i got 4 hours on 100% stats. will upload screenshot soon.
i think u didn't followed up intial instrucitons for battery life like first few days atleast 4 days keep it discharge 100%-4-5% even let it off and then charge again to 0%-100% again dischage same manner, do it atleast 4 times (means 4 days) but before that u need to formate completely and try again. hopes it helps you.
well after coming from x10 mini pro this mini pro really next to awesome. i love it too much. just some boltware apps need to remove. need some games if any have plz tell me.
I think some of the stock app killing the battery, plus the data connection is the most powerful battery drainer. Anyway, first get rooted and remove some of mind blowing stock app. If u can minimize the data connection and use wifi instead of it, that can help improve battery life. My mini pro lasts about 1 day 10hours with minimal data connection but always witb wifi turned on.
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on x10, it's been the same. after deleting some crap, the standy time increased from 2 days -> 8 days. especially playnow, trackid, timeshift & facebook including their extensings and plugins are draining the battery a lot.
i suggest to have look in this 2 threads and check, whats "save to remove"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1047689
additional there is a very good and simply to setup app you could try:
GREEN POWER - (availible as free and paid version)
http://www.appbrain.com/app/green-power-free-battery-saver/org.gpo.greenpower
Yup I think that some of the stock app is the cause of massive decrease of battery life at night, or during idle. But I just dont know what apps that cause this.
I really want to remove it asap
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Izzy Stinson said:
Yup I think that some of the stock app is the cause of massive decrease of battery life at night, or during idle. But I just dont know what apps that cause this.
I really want to remove it asap
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well i also want to remove, but by unlocking bootloader, i dont want to void the warranty also some features like xperia inside facebook, some camra function also may be stops to work so just waitng if any one root it without unlocking the bootloader. just like xperia x10 mini pro with superone click.
I am trying out Green power, seems to work well as it does not kill app but work from another angle: instead of always on data connection, I set it to turn on every 30 min using green power... so far it looks good.
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well when its rooted then try to do a battery calibration
does it also have the BST-38 like the x10 mini pro?
You have to mention that because of the small design you can not expect that they implemented a more awesome battery that is small and has the same capacity like a battery of a large phone like the htc ones. otherwise such a awesome battery would have cost much more and would have made the price much more expensive.
As also the x10 mini pro has a lifetime of about one day I suggest it's the same here
Try turning of G3 and only use G2 if possible. otherwise we should wait until they ported cm7 to the mini pro where you can do this.
Nope, EP500 - 1200mAh, somewhat better talktime is promised in the specifications (5.5 hours) compared to old Mini Pro. But the device is still fresh, some customizations should improve battery life
Is there any high performance EP500 battery on market? like 2000mAh maybe?
chuinkee said:
Hi,
I would like to gather some general thoughts about SK17i's battery life. I got mine about 8 days ago, everything is good, but the battery life is really disappointing.
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Perhaps give time to cycle charge the battery several times (discharge fully, charge fully) so it will run optimal. The bloatware and the apps that keeps running on the background, uninstall them as they seem to be uninstallable. For the Popcap games, only way you can get rid of that is to have root and uninstall it. Since you mentioned you're rooted, take that useless crap out.
My unit is about to get a week old but I have very light usage and looks to me it can last best 3 days, so with normal usage will be definitely less than 2 days, which is like your experience. Anyway, the full cycles I am still trying to do and squeeze out what the EP500 can muster.
This is the best choice I can find on an alternative battery
Code:
http://cgi.ebay.com/130561150352
Looks like has double the capacity, which I believe should at least provide more juice. Planning to buy, but we better see what the fully optimal EP500 can do first.
Also, I'd like to share that I use SetCPU to downclock the CPU when idle to 122.88Mhz. When the phone not rooted, the lowest clock speed is ~245Mhz. In general our phones are more idle/standby than in use, so half the clock speed reduction will be good for the battery. As a sidenote, I wonder why Xperia models are like this (lowest stock clock speeds ~245Mhz), whilst Samsung ones go as low as 100Mhz.
rotikering said:
Is there any high performance EP500 battery on market? like 2000mAh maybe?
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There is but not Sony Ericsson product, check my post about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232065
battery life
with little to moderate use i can last almost the whole day. with moderate to heavy use forget about it, always bring a charger everywhere i go. i love the compact qwerty phone and speed but the battery is getting to me.
shravanchoudhary9 said:
well i also want to remove, but by unlocking bootloader, i dont want to void the warranty also some features like xperia inside facebook, some camra function also may be stops to work so just waitng if any one root it without unlocking the bootloader. just like xperia x10 mini pro with superone click.
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Youre just like me. I just want to root my phone easily using superone click too
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I was on the same boat but you just need a bit of confidence. The SuperOneClick even the latest one will not work because the exploit is patched on the stock firmware. That's the reason why bootloader need be unlocked so you can flash the insecure boot.img kernel (opens the exploit), which will enable the SuperOneClick to root the phone.
If you're bothered about the unlock bootloader, that can easily be relocked again following the same process, and you're back to stock.
yes i am trying to understand the rooting process to uninstall apps that is killing the 1200 battery.
you can force stop it but once you use the app again you have to force stop it again, and that can get old quick.
himuraken said:
yes i am trying to understand the rooting process to uninstall apps that is killing the 1200 battery.
you can force stop it but once you use the app again you have to force stop it again, and that can get old quick.
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that's the way android works. when you start an app it will remain there unless its programmed to terminate on quit or disable (ie. juicedefender) or have an exit option (ie. opera mobile). they say it has intelligent process management which keeps things in RAM so its instant when you relaunch, and if it needs the memory it will kill useless or sleeping processes.
there's this program "autostarts" (needs root) which you can set to disable apps to start on triggers (ie. after phone startup, or when connectivity state changes), and i use that to ensure that apps that i rarely use but still need in the phone, do not start unless i start them, thereby i save RAM. for instance, i disable TitaniumBackup, because there's no point its running unless i need to backup/restore apps.
I have a disabled data, the 23 hours off wifi, bluetooth every 2 days one hour, the screen brightness to 50%, and the unchecked bravia engine, 12 hours. Generic rom installed, uninstalled all possible programs.
The battery lasts very little.
to see if we can CM7, sure but the battery lasts.
Thank you
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I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
Pictures in the morning of drain when I'm at the computer
dahui9 said:
I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
Pictures in the morning of drain when I'm at the computer
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I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
rekrapg said:
I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
popophobia said:
That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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A week? My Nexus couldn't get more than two days or so brand new... Also, what LCD?
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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Nope, I have it on auto-detect, so quite bright when on the train and outdoors. I have setCPU (market, paid) running and set battery profiles - although I haven't hit them yet. I have it set to max 1.1ghz 100% to 50%, 998mhz from 50% to 40%, 776mhz from 40% to 30%, and under 30% to 500 and something.
I do use an app called autostarts (market, paid) and have set everything but system services/apps to not run on any kind of state change or startup. I use Advanced Task Killer to kill apps as soon as I finish with them.
But i've had all these for ages, I just think a big improvement on the last release test 3
Nandroid your existing and try out test3.
I've been experiencing the same symptoms with my battery usage generally dominated by the display. I'm using a UV kernel currently (intersectravens) so we will see if the same happens.
KingKlicks's DESIRE rom doesnt have the same problem it seems and the battery usage is much better.
Wondering if there is a underlying issue.
after .6 test 3 the battery has improved decently, still the display is hogging battery life more so than in the sense rom
Same thing here... Display totally kills the battery with CM5.0.5.3 and OC/UV kernel. Phone rarely lasts over a day with moderate to low usage...
Without usage I can barely get a days use :s
I get the impression that its not the display. I can have 50% display usage, sleep my phone while playing a MP3 and then have more than 50% usage... suggesting that its either he display+something in one category , or there is a bug.
The stock ROM always showed display at the highest usage also. I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, but remember that those numbers are all relative.
I'll say this: I charge nightly to prevent my battery "deep cycling"....That being said I un-plug at 8am and plug-in at about 11p-12a, I use my phone a TON.....usually when I plug in I have about 45-55%.....Not bad at all.....
I originally thought display being the main battery hog was a bad thing.....Then I thought about it a bit......
Would you rather the "system" use more batt? Cell Stand by?
Display (by all rights) should use most battery. More usage=Less time with a fully charged battery.....
Im using CM 5.0.5.3 and I switched Roms after using the stock for 3 months. As soon as I moved to CM I immediatly noticed the battery life was lower than before. I hope you find an issue to this problem ASAP.......I love your ROMs CM, but I love my battery life even more
Good luck with this !!
"display" = gpu acceleration and actual amoled power
Something else i just noticed, very odd. I had 41% display and 23% spotify.... i had been playing for music for a while (offline only). When i quit the spotify app... the entry from the battery usage vanished and display took a spike to 65% ish... really odd. Almost display is showing usage for a group of things.
What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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Ignore any figures people quote - battery life is always relative. One persons 'usual' usage is different than yours. A friend of mine brings his N1 to works and it sits on his desk syncing email - he gets 1 full day.
I bring mine, sync 2 accounts, play a lot of podcasts, have a RSS syncer going and use twitter and FB loads, i get a LOT less.
Dont worry to much, your usage figures are pretty normal depending on your usage patterns.
They say your mileage may vary for a reason
Battery Life
My Battery life has always sucked. Maybe I should buy a new Battery?
If I take my phone off the charger at 7:30, and don't plug it in all day, then I will be at about 30% or less by the time I get home at around 5:30. Unless I don't use it. But I use my phone to play stream music pretty much all day. Or at least 4 hours. One day I forgot my USB cable and I was below 20% by 3:00.
It is still better than iSuck, I mean iPhone, and worse than a BlackBerry. I have electricity everywhere though, a car charger, and an extra battery is like 25$?
So what is the big deal? You have the equivalent of a desktop computer from like 2002 in your pocked running off of a batter the size of a credit card, how long do you really want the thing to last anyway?
Does the next update (2.1) somehow include a way to improve battery? I'm guessing no, wouldn't you need to replace the battery itself?
There may be battery performance improvements in the next update. My battery life is actually stellar. I set Timescape to update every 3 hrs and have brightness at about 75%. Off the charger at about 7am and at midnight that night I'm usually at around 40%. That's plenty good enough for me.
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Does the next update (2.1) somehow include a way to improve battery? I'm guessing no, wouldn't you need to replace the battery itself?
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I dunno about the update and battery life but, Its 100% to 20% in 25-27 hours for me which i think is awesome as my usage is high.
Try setting the updates of your apps lower, check the Batt usage history from the settings menu to see what sucks the juice more.
If you want more battery life then you'll have to sacrifice some updates, which according to me ruins the entire purpose of having such a high-end smart Android device. Just use the phone the way you like it, have the charger with you always
Whatever phone you choose i think you are going to have this issue since batt usage depends solely upon the way you use your phone. In 2.1 live wallpapers suck more juice so you'll be advised to turn it off its either functionality or performance, the decision is yours
According to me any phone u buy will have same battery life or there is 70% Probability to have worst battery life. X10 has one the best battery life amongst all smartphones
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
sam_a200 said:
I dunno about the update and battery life but, Its 100% to 20% in 25-27 hours for me which i think is awesome as my usage is high.
Try setting the updates of your apps lower, check the Batt usage history from the settings menu to see what sucks the juice more.
If you want more battery life then you'll have to sacrifice some updates, which according to me ruins the entire purpose of having such a high-end smart Android device. Just use the phone the way you like it, have the charger with you always
Whatever phone you choose i think you are going to have this issue since batt usage depends solely upon the way you use your phone. In 2.1 live wallpapers suck more juice so you'll be advised to turn it off its either functionality or performance, the decision is yours
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Hmm... could it be just me? My battery went from 100% to 53% from just staying locked over night (around 9 hours). I checked what's been eating it and it said "Cell Standby" and "Display". My brightness is on the lowest possible and Wi-Fi and Bluetooth is constantly off. I'll check that Timescape stuff and try to get the App Killer from the Market... (if my device even had a market!).
nah this device is ****ed up ...
sony homepage says that standby time is around 450 hours .... (more then 17 days!)
i dont have timescape on autoupdate - the only thing i do is gmail push and i get 1 and maybe 1/2 day(s) of standy time (depends if i make 1 call or not )
the update should increase it a lot i think
btw if some1 has a 2nd phone please try this:
charge it fully and then turn it off completely ... after 17 days turn it on ... my bet is it wont turn on coz the akku is totally empty...
I have no Wi-Fi at my hotel and I don't have a data plan. How on earth does it drain this much battery. I'm gonna go turn off every app and try another night just on standby.
Have a read of these...
X10 Power Usage
Battery life improvment thread
Battery Life Guide - Worth a read if you are having issues.
Jesus, what a difference a tweak makes. (Battery)
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Hmm... could it be just me? My battery went from 100% to 53% from just staying locked over night (around 9 hours).
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Good question for you actually, how long have you had the phone? my first 4-5 charges were appauling but it quickly got better and now i could not be happier. more often than not getting 7am - 11pm the next day (whats that, 40 hours or so?) out of one charge, with plenty of go left.
Mine is running RB##26 firmware, rooted and a chunk of apps deleted though.
When i first got mine it was a bit poo, remember for the first 5 or so charges to let the battery go down pretty low and it will improve battery life.
Get runcpu and you're golden.
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Sounds like you're running 014 firmware - I had the exact same problem until I updated to 020. The whole battery usage profile changed and one hour of standby only uses up 1-2%.
yeah, the 020 u/g makes a difference. I've rooted and overclocked mine, heavy usage on 3g can drain the battery in c12 hours but more than adequate for general usage
I'm a big user. Even with my G1, I was happy with a day's use. Anyone who thinks they're gonna get days of use without a charge is kidding themselves. A smart phone with a big screen us gonna suck juice regardless of what you do. As many an XDA user will tell you, keep your charger or at least the cable with you wherever you are. With FW026 it did help a little, but if you need life from your battery you really do need to sacrifice some of your widgets or updates.
MrZ
Today my battery have gone to 10% in about 10/11 hours, i'm using sip and wireless are active all day, even when it are on standby, installed some apps and played some games, some calls, its good enough, sometimes i get 2 days, depends on what you do, you can do some tricks...
I know battery has been diacussed before but i think this isnt normal. I left the office with almost full charge, listened to music on the.way with bluetoith headset for an hour. Got home and browsed for like half an hour. And here is my battery.
3 hours and the phone is almost dead. I have no apps running. I had 3g on when i left the officw and at home i used wifi.
Is this normal or should i take the.phone back for an exchange?
Regardless, i still love the phone.
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RETURN ZE PHONE
get a new shiny in exchange
btw when u return the phone what do u say exactly
Thats ridiculous man. Maybe you're battery is broken.
That said mine has just drained 35% in 3 hours with almost no usage so maybe it is just the phone.
I think there is 100% guaranteed a software problem and we need samsung to fix it.
It says you've had the display on for quite a long time, music needs the display on? Also that wifi sharing is another culprit.
It drained because you had the screen on nearly the entire time not because anything else
Unless thats a case of the 'phone staying awake' bug. You can freeze wifi sharing with titanium backup to save some juice
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I too am facing the same issue battery drain from 100% to 60% in a span of 3 hours.
I am having a mediocre usage of battery with touchdown as my mail client talking to my corporate exchange. Still it doesn't warrant a drain of 40% in 3 hours.
I dont have much apps installed. Even with juice defender I am not getting better results.
Niket
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Is this normal or should i take the.phone back for an exchange?
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You could say it's normal because if you haven't yet rooted and frozen the wifi sharing process this is the exact behavior everybody else is also having. A new phone will behave in exactly the same way if it's using the current firmware.
You can do two things.
1. root and freeze the process with titanium backup or similar.
2. wait for the next official samsung firmware which may include a fix.
The rooting process takes about 15 minutes and is not too difficult. You may or may not get in to warranty trouble in case of repair, but as I and several of my friends saw it, there really is no other way unless you want a phone with 3-4 hours of battery compared to the 19-23 hours we all get now after the freeze.
Another thing, it won't matter if wifi is turned on or off, the bug and wifi sharing process will still be there.
You will probably read around the net that several processes has to be frozen, but it really only is the "wifi sharing" one that needs to be frozen for the battery drain issue to go away.
What is the "wifi-sharing"?
Mine GS2 is a bit different from the OP's. Android OS occupied 45% while Display only 19%. And charging time is unusually long. Very long. I plugged my GS2 into PC at 9am with 30% left, and by the time I left work 6pm it only got up to 75% something. That's half a day charge.
The rooting process takes about 15 minutes and is not too difficult. You may or may not get in to warranty trouble in case of repair, but as I and several of my friends saw it, there really is no other way unless you want a phone with 3-4 hours of battery compared to the 19-23 hours we all get now after the freeze.
Sorry, whats the freeze. I haven't heard this before ?
Thanks
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What is the "wifi-sharing"?
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I don't really know. But I haven't found a feature not working after the freeze. Even dlna sharing, hotspot etc.. Everything seems to be fine.
You can read more about the issue here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069295
Regarding the unusual long charge time, I haven't heard about that before. It takes my phone about 3 hours to fully charge.
I can recommend this application for monitoring if the phone really sleeps when left on the table and which processes uses your juice in general. It's history based and you will be able to figure out a lot of useful stuff with it.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/systempanellite-task-manager/nextapp.systempanel
I'm also have a similar problem, but mine was after one hour and an half of web surfing using dolphin HD and wifi... it was full, it's now about 25% remaining... Is it normal that the dolphin browser used 39% of the battery ? It's even more than the display... !
Ps: it's actually really hot on the back of the phone, on the top, just under camera... Normal ? ? ?
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whats the freeze. I haven't heard this before ?
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Well. When you have rooted your phone, you are able to do a lot of usefull stuff:
-Freeze processes
-Disable the camera shutter sound with a simple property/text file
-Make the middle home screen the real home (like htc sense) with a simple property/text file,
-Replace camera.apk and get higher quality sound in video, actually also higher video bitrate if you want that.
-Replace talk.apk and enable the upcoming google talk with video chat
-Install chainfire3d driver to be able to play tegra2 gpu based games
...and probably a lot more, but above is the only things I've done.
Freezing means : that you lock a process you don't want to run ever. You are also able to "un-freeze" if you decide to revert.
So:
1. you root your phone
2. you install titanium backup or other application that has the "freezing" ability.
3. open the freezing app, go to the process list, find "wifi sharing", press freeze, reboot
Problem solved, "wifi-sharing" will never run again.
You want to revert: Launch titanium, go to process list, find wifi sharing, unfreeze, reboot. Everything back to where you were before.
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I'm also have a similar problem, but mine was after one hour and an half of web surfing using dolphin HD and wifi... it was full, it's now about 25% remaining... Is it normal that the dolphin browser used 39% of the battery ? It's even more than the display... !
Ps: it's actually really hot on the back of the phone, on the top, just under camera... Normal ? ? ?
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I really don't think anything matters as I can see you have the wifi-sharing bug.
You must understand, that it's everybody with the current firmware that has this bug. You must either wait or root and freeze.
Sucking up your battery in a couple of hours and making the cpu run at full speed which makes the phone get hot is exactly what this wifi-sharing bug does.
There is absolutely no way you can change anything in the settings or say, not run dolphin browser to fix this problem. You simply have to freeze the process or wait for samsung to fix it. As long as the wifi-sharing process enters your battery usage list you have the firmware that has the problem (and it's more than one) and your doomed until you freeze or upgrade to a future firmware where the bug may be officially fixed.
Just another "wifi-sharing" discussion link:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
Alright then, it's just that it doesn't seem me to be that much of the battery (~20%...)
I did just freeze that process and will see once my phone is fully charged... Thanks.
Try the lite'ning rom. It is much better!
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isnt this pretty normal looking battery drain? most people on this forum are getting about 4 hours screen-on time, sometimes 4.5 hours. yours seems to have the screen on about 4 hours from your graph picture. isnt this normal? if it was all gaming usage it definitely would be normal...
@OP, You mind to mention the Screen On time please?
Regards.
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sia1996 said:
Try the lite'ning rom. It is much better!
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oh, was that a constructive comment?
I have been messing around with system tuner app for a while now and I really like the program.
I would like to hear from people who have used this app and their results with various tweaks that this app provides.
in the boot settings menu:
1. forcing both CPU's online: this should technically give you a better battery life, since it puts less strain on on cpu at a time, has anyone had a good exprience using this?
2. Boost app loading: anyone had any significant improvement with this?
My own settings:
I usually clock my phone at 1.5 (on demand governor) even though faux's kernel allows 1.7 max. I put max clock for screen off at 384 and conservative governor.
I have Undervolted before but do not see a very significant battery difference so I just left it alone.
I tried out the autokill option of system tuner, I only tried to kill the ghost apps, to refrain from the cpu from having to keep restarting the phone, but this also seems to kill battery life...In my experience any type of task killer however detailed will reduce battery and does not increase performance, unless you're running a poorly written app that just needs to be killed.
I use three other programs to monitor my phone
1. system pannel: very good at finding rogue apps that kill cpu...I highly recommend the pro version, you can get a history of what has used cpu up to a week.
2. Onavo and My data manger which basically monitor my wifi and mobile traffic, Onavo only monitors mobile network traffic and lets you restrict apps to only wifi. however it does not measure wifi use of data. My data manager monitor both wifi and network usage but does not give you any options to do anything with the apps, it basically tells you what program is using data while on wifi and mobile.
If anyone has found a good balance between performance and battery saving, please do share.
Thank you.
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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I have widget locker and havn't had that problem...I just flashed faux's latest kernel and am in the process of re calibrating my battery, it seemed to jump from 100 to 90 in about 10 minutes!!!!!! now I noticed that happening...but I havn't had time to fully replicate it...i need more time..I believe it might have something to do with fauxes kernel, he mentioned that when screen goes off he it puts the phone into a low power consumption mode, but also has something that when you turn it on, is quick to turn on!!! we'll have to wait and see.
If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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Felinos11 said:
I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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They have maybe a bit better battery life. I went back to stock.
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Data Connection, Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
heyodee said:
Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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while you sleep, you won't be checking for emails will you? but you expect to wake and see emails received.... that is where it comes in handy. with apps like tasker, you can automate some of this activities. tasker + syncer should be a good combo for you.
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
I've noticed the same type of activity when in Airplane mode. Extremely low power consumption - fantastic.
Is it possible maybe to undervolt the Wifi/BT/Mobile radios? Would that make any difference or am I off base here?
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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You had something setup wrong then I think.. you can change how often in syncs while the screen is off, the default setting is for it to turn on data for 1 minute every 15 minutes. Most people don't need to know things so bad that they can't work with a 14 minute delay(at worst), and of couse the internet is on while screen is on, when you're actually using it.
I thought I would need to use juice defender, but since I switched to bulletproof, my usage last me an entire day. From 8am till 1am, usually with some to spare. The only tweak I made to cpu was to enable 192mhz, it isn't like there is a performance drop, but it did make a notable difference in battery life.
If I wanted to I could use juice defender to get more than one day out of it, and I keep a spare battery on me in case I really need to use the phone.. but haven't really needed it.
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
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How many apps have you installed?
Greetings. I've had an arc S since late last year and have been very active over in the arc forum. My lovely wife just switched contracts and got herself an Xperia S which she has kindly swapped for my arc S.
Here are my first impressions of the S after 5 days of use. Note that I do not plan to unlock the bootloader just yet so am living without root access (the GB -> ICS method looks too problematic to me so I'll live with this).
The first thing I did was update to ICS using Flashtool. I have since flashed the latest 6.1.A.0.453 firmware that was posted here a few days ago.
My very first impression was "I need my arc S back!". But I have warmed to this device after some use.
LIKES
The screen.
The speed. It leaves my arc S behind.
The Walkman app is fantastic. Coupled with the equalizer and sound enhancements it's by far the best music player I've used on Android.
The glowing strip. Very, very cool.
Lockscreen notifications.
Much better camera button than the arc. And opening the camera with the phone locked is very, very useful.
The unlock button is easy to press, unlike on the arc.
The widgets are very good - weather, toggles, Timescape, Top Contacts, etc.
I love the improved Contacts, Messaging and Dialler apps.
DISLIKES
The battery life is absolutely awful. If I don't touch the phone then I might get 12 hours. Usually I'm looking at 8 hours.
The soft buttons are terrible. I often have to tap them 2 or 3 times. Also, if I drag the notification bar down then I nearly always hit the Home button when trying to drag the bar back up.
The little flap on the USB port is a very bad idea. It won't last.
The Power Saver app is useless. The widget doesn't show the correct battery percentage and the option to turn it on when the battery level reaches a preset level just doesn't work! How did this get through QA? It's a great idea too and this phone needs it because of the shocking battery life.
Swype doesn't work in the Google Search app. Eh?
Where is the "classic" Timescape widget? Why was this omitted? I liked it! Why do companies have to make decisions like this without thinking about their users? Grrrr.
Long-pressing the home screen produces some crappy menu at the top - why?
The Widget Picker app takes a while to appear.
So a mixed bag. I learnt long ago that there is no such thing as the perfect smartphone - it's always a question of compromise. I like this phone, I like the design, I like the 1GB of RAM, the 32GB of storage is ample for me and I don't really mind the battery can't be removed. But the battery life is a killer and I can't see myself keeping this phone for long unless it's addressed.
As far as the capacitive buttons go, you kind of develop a new techniques which includes a small upwards slide.
Hitting home when you wish to slide notification bar up was a pain here too, but I haven't done it for a while now.
Battery is ok, I'll get from morning to night no problem. Tbh mine is no worse than my arc, and better than my wife's galaxy s2. My brother had a one x, terrible phone and battery life, he changed it for a galaxy s3,he says it's even worse lol
Rooting with locked bootloader was simple, just get the stuff you need ready and make sure you understand the instructions.
Went perfectly first time on both the phones I did.
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I'd say battery life was twice as good on my arc S. I work in an area with a pretty crappy signal and this seems to cause the S real problems with battery drain. I regularly got over 30 hours out of my arc S (on ICS).
As this phone came with my wife's contract (even though it isn't network locked thankfully) I am not prepared to throw the warranty away by unlocking the bootloader. I'll happily root it once a better method appears but I'm not unlocking it ... yet.
If you don't like the battery life of ics then flash back to the latest GB Rom... My battery has been dire on ics and I got double the life on GB... And rooting is rather easy even without unlocking the bootloader
Not sure if it's all in my head but battery life seems too take a nose dive after flashing new firmware, it seems to settle back down after a few days. Also re-downloading apps/settings won't help.
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If you don't like the battery life of ics then flash back to the latest GB Rom... My battery has been dire on ics and I got double the life on GB... And rooting is rather easy even without unlocking the bootloader
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Will I lose the Walkman app if I go back to GB?
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Will I lose the Walkman app if I go back to GB?
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Yes. But the only difference from the GB Music Player are the icon (GB icon is much better), and the fact it doesn't have the visualizer thingy.
8 hours? Damn you might want to get that replaced. I typically get about 2 and a half days.
Seriously no need to go back to GB... i get about a day and half of constant usage from mine, exchange emails going from work all day, it's an app or apps you have installed i'll bet, coupled with your heavy usage and with your phone trying to connect to 3g/2g every few mins that's probs causing the very low battery.
Set your mobile network preferred mode to wcdma only(or GSM only), remove any uneeded apps, apps with in app adds will always be updating the adds prior to opening the app, check your background running apps. Some apps are not properly optimized for ICS yet.
Constant Wifi scanning will have the same effect, switch off wifi when not in a wifi zone.
Agreed about the Power saving app it doesn't seem to auto kick in like it should, manually set this to on before you go to bed(I dont even use it).
Check the huge battery thread in the general section for more tips.
-smc
I dno what you're on about but the battery life with ics is so much better than GB, I recently updated to ics so I'm still adjusting into the battery usage, however yesterday I got roughly 6hr screen on time with 18-19hr total time on battery, as far as buttons go you'll settle in soon enough
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By far the biggest battery drain is the screen. I've lowered my brightness to 25% and it still uses approx. 20% for every hour the screen is on.
So when playing games, surfing, etc. the battery drains very quickly.
I'm sure I could get a couple of days out of the battery if I didn't actually use it!
It gets hot too - I just tried Temple Run Brave (awful game) and the phone got very hot very quickly.
I might give GB a go and see if it's any better. I'm certainly not alone in thinking the battery life is poor if this forum is anything to go by.
Hi.
Regarding to the soft buttons problem.
Take a try on this :
U do not use like arc s buttons. Use like a swipe. Use your finger and swipe from down to up direction on the place of the touch field. It will work!
I have had the same terrible unusability after Arc phone, but this method saves the Xps
Bye
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Battery Life is ok. I've unlocked my Bootloader, rooted it with the Adv. Kernel.
After that i've charged my Battery to 100% and deleted with the "Battery Calibrator" from the Market the batterystats.bin. Now after the third charge it went up from 14h (100% to 5% Battery) to 17 h (100% to 6%) and now i've 17h 23mins (100% to 47%). Screen is attached from 5 Minutes back.
Battery Stats