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Wow I can't believe that either Android or HTC took such a serious step backwards with this new applications screen. I mean this stinks of way back in my Windows 6.x days. My EVO 4G applications drawer would just scroll and scroll so quickly and smoothly from top to bottom, relative to how fast and hard the finger gesture was. Now here we are again with this lame stepped scrolling app screen environment. You flick down and the screen moves exactly one set of five rows and slams to a stop, like you have reached the end. So you have to flick it again to get another whole five rows. In fact if you move the screen manually and slowly you can even see a thin white break across the screen where the stops are forced to happen. This sucks so much compaired to the beautiful, smooth, fluid animation we had before. Pleeeeease tell me there is a way to change this.
open app tray-hit menu-tap list=problem solved
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Wow I can't believe that either Android or HTC took such a serious step backwards with this new applications screen. I mean this stinks of way back in my Windows 6.x days. My EVO 4G applications drawer would just scroll and scroll so quickly and smoothly from top to bottom, relative to how fast and hard the finger gesture was. Now here we are again with this lame stepped scrolling app screen environment. You flick down and the screen moves exactly one set of five rows and slams to a stop, like you have reached the end. So you have to flick it again to get another whole five rows. In fact if you move the screen manually and slowly you can even see a thin white break across the screen where the stops are forced to happen. This sucks so much compaired to the beautiful, smooth, fluid animation we had before. Pleeeeease tell me there is a way to change this.
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Install Launcher Pro, ADWex, Launcher7, GoLauncher....I'm sure I'm missing dozens of them....Launcher Pro is the smoothest and most AOSP experience, though ADW is free with no nag and OSS, ADWex is the pay version, Launcher 7 is a Wp7 copycat, very smooth...not too feature rich...Go Launcher I've never used, but, seen good things from....
But you lose your sense widgets....
Screw rosie, I'll throw everything away to do away with that hideous beast
I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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I thought this was a question...
I happen to like how it is now but to each his own..List mode is the best your gonna get until we get some cracked boot loaders and roms
Rippley05 said:
I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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My thoughts exactly, lol. I was like, hmm, that was an easy way for them to fix the scrolling lag thru the app drawer, haha. I don't mind it, but look forward to the day I can get a custom rom on this bad boy and run some AOSP.
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open app tray-hit menu-tap list=problem solved
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Yeah I was aware of that option but really don't think that is a good trade off.
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Rippley05 said:
I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
Of all the things to complain about. I only knew it was a matter of time before people started acting like it was the end of the world because of something as minor as an app drawer. It was the same with the EVO.
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
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bad coding is bad coding. we weren't dropping frames, they just weren't there to begin with.
ADWex and LP are always liquid smooth to me, on my Moment, Evo4G, Nook Color and everyones phone I put it on who asks to 'make it faster'.....in fact, as much as I hate sense I could deal with it or even--gasp--like it (those are some sexy widgets) if that god damned app drawer wasn't so god damn ugly-laggy-slow .... stock launcher on my moment was smoother....and, well...nuff said
The app drawer has been like that sense the thunderbolt released, I guess u never had a sense 2.1 rom
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
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I think they might be fixing it for "less equipped" phones. I can imagine that several "low end" devices will have Sense 3.0 at some point.
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The app drawer has been like that sense the thunderbolt released, I guess u never had a sense 2.1 rom
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Nope I went straight from my EVO 4G to this and my ROM of choice was always the trusty Sprint Lover's rom, which was the original sense.
Launcher Pro Plus (the $3 is worth it) works very smoothly (I can scroll the whole app list in 1 swipe, no lag). I got Fancy Widgets free from the Amazon Apps store awhile back, and it makes up for the lost Sense widgets. I got addicted to having the scrolling lower launcher bar - there's no way I can go back to just 3 buttons that I can't assign
I actually like the vertical paginated style in the Sense 3.0 drawer. It reminds me of the horizontal paginated in ADW, which is what I always used. I wouldn't go so far to say it's a major step backwards, though. It's not really the end of the world.
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Launcher Pro Plus (the $3 is worth it) works very smoothly (I can scroll the whole app list in 1 swipe, no lag). I got Fancy Widgets free from the Amazon Apps store awhile back, and it makes up for the lost Sense widgets. I got addicted to having the scrolling lower launcher bar - there's no way I can go back to just 3 buttons that I can't assign
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Fancy Widgets doesn't look anywhere even close to as nice as the new Sense 3 widgets man.
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Of all the things to complain about. I only knew it was a matter of time before people started acting like it was the end of the world because of something as minor as an app drawer. It was the same with the EVO.
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yup, people complains for everything this days, remember the 30 days return policy mi gente!!
I remember seeing a review that you're able to pinch the app draw to see all the apps at the same time, then select the screen with the app you want. Just like the home screen on the regular Evo.
Is this how it works? Cause that would eliminate a reason to fast scroll for me & also explain why there's a line every 5 rows
lol @ some of you guys getting upset at people who don't like the app drawer.... calm down little fellas... we aren't insulting you.
I love the phone so far, hate the app drawer... using anything other than sense 3.0 on this phone right now would be silly IMO.
noob question...
Will someone develop a Sense-like ROM, once development gets underway for the Photon? I really liked Sense, but did not like the 3vo's sound/speaker quality. I would love a sense ROM on the Photon.
Is it possible to strip the sense interface from 3vo and stick it on the Photon? Will this only be possible if bootloader is cracked or would it be possible with root only?
Sorry if the question is redundant or too simplistic for this forum.
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noob question...
Will someone develop a Sense-like ROM, once development gets underway for the Photon? I really liked Sense, but did not like the 3vo's sound/speaker quality. I would love a sense ROM on the Photon.
Is it possible to strip the sense interface from 3vo and stick it on the Photon? Will this only be possible if bootloader is cracked or would it be possible with root only?
Sorry if the question is redundant or too simplistic for this forum.
Thanks.
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it can be done but why? it's like a beautiful woman with a snaggletooth she's perfect till she smiles and ruins everything...
I honestly don't understand why everyone raves about sense. Yeah, its pretty, but never really added any functionality for me. I had an evo, and had a Evo Shift and the first chance I had to dump sense, I did.
I loved touchwiz on my epic, because it was basically just stock, tweaked a little.
To me HTC Sense is bloated and unnecessary. When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless.
Also, I don't know why everyone hates on blur. I know the old blur sucked, but whatever Ninja or Ghost blur the photon is running I absolutely LOVE.
@randomrobbi - "When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless"...maybe I missed something...what can't you do with sense that you can with stock?
The thing I miss most about sense is the widgets, especially the email one. It would show unread push email from several accounts including an exchange account and gmail. I liked that it would show the unread count immediately like photon does for voicemail.
I also liked the unlock screen where you could drag the slider circle to one of 4 apps that you want to use immediately.
And, yes, it was pretty. Couldn't a sense ROM have the bloatware stripped from it so that wouldn't be an issue?
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@randomrobbi - "When you can't do certain things in sense that you can in stock android, it seems pointless"...maybe I missed something...what can't you do with sense that you can with stock?
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I guess I misspoke about that. It's just harder to carry out some actions in sense, as compared to stock android. Like hitting dialer, and being able to easily access your starred contacts. I just felt like Sense added alot of extra steps to simple actions. I guess i'm just biased, but the first android I owned was an HTC Hero, which I never rooted or put a rom on. I didnt keep it long and went back to my blackberry. I've just always been more a fan of AOSP Android.
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I also liked the unlock screen where you could drag the slider circle to one of 4 apps that you want to use immediately.
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kimmie...try out THIS lockscreen. Same as the Sense one Agile Lock Screen
Also...I miss the Sense 3.0 Notification bar. Effin amazing. Has tons of toggles, quick access to apps, etc. Was so convenient & slick.
I'm sure I'm also in the minority but I happen to really like Sense, both visually and from an ease of use standpoint when setting up new devices. That said, I often turn a lot of those things off, or flip back and forth between various launchers but I still miss it sometimes. DEFINITELY agree about the Notifications, those are just the way I'd like them to be.
I'd love to see an installable Sense but it seems pretty deeply entangled in the rest of the system, just like Blur, so I dont know how well it'd work as a standalone.
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I'm sure I'm also in the minority but I happen to really like Sense, both visually and from an ease of use standpoint when setting up new devices. That said, I often turn a lot of those things off, or flip back and forth between various launchers but I still miss it sometimes. DEFINITELY agree about the Notifications, those are just the way I'd like them to be.
I'd love to see an installable Sense but it seems pretty deeply entangled in the rest of the system, just like Blur, so I dont know how well it'd work as a standalone.
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Im coming out of the closet too. I love the build and accessories of the Photon but im so damn used to Sense. Its like driving home from work, sure there are many ways but after awhile you find and get used to the fastest and easiest way home. Vogue, TP, TP2, Evo 4G and Evo 3D...currently Photon. Some days I forget how to get home.
Oh how about a touchwiz 4.0 like rom I really do miss my quick panel in the notification bar it was really handy :/
With the HTC Sense api recently available, i am sure that someone will start creating widgets and icons etc for other non-sense devices.
hmmm that didn't sound right, oh well, hope you guys know what I mean. lol
TS out
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Im coming out of the closet too. I love the build and accessories of the Photon but im so damn used to Sense. Its like driving home from work, sure there are many ways but after awhile you find and get used to the fastest and easiest way home. Vogue, TP, TP2, Evo 4G and Evo 3D...currently Photon. Some days I forget how to get home.
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Ifeel the same, I love the Motorola Photon... better speaker, better signal strength, call quality is better also... It just seems to be a little stronger over all.... But I miss the Sense 3.0. Sense is fluid with no lag.
The Motorola Blur has a slight delay when switching back and forth between home screens. I used to miss the graphical HTC widgets, but i have beautiful widgets for that so i am not realy missing anything. I just miss the speed and fluidness of Sense technology.
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Ifeel the same, I love the Motorola Photon... better speaker, better signal strength, call quality is better also... It just seems to be a little stronger over all.... But I miss the Sense 3.0. Sense is fluid with no lag.
The Motorola Blur has a slight delay when switching back and forth between home screens. I used to miss the graphical HTC widgets, but i have beautiful widgets for that so i am not realy missing anything. I just miss the speed and fluidness of Sense technology.
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The Delay can be removed with the super charger script, my buddy's Photon is now just about as smooth/quick as my Syngery Evo
The delay can be removed by adding launcher pro, turning off screen animations and putting all speed at 10... fastest phone out there then, faster and smoother than evo 3d.. i know because ive owned both lol
Edit: i know a lot of people prefer adw or GO but i dig LauncherPro.. also dont care about the updates as much because cool thing about blur is that you can use the widgets still once the overlay is installed, unlike sense.
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brandonkahn said:
The delay can be removed by adding launcher pro, turning off screen animations and putting all speed at 10... fastest phone out there then, faster and smoother than evo 3d.. i know because ive owned both lol
Edit: i know a lot of people prefer adw or GO but i dig LauncherPro.. also dont care about the updates as much because cool thing about blur is that you can use the widgets still once the overlay is installed, unlike sense.
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What the hell are you doing back here? According to your thread in the 3d forums, this phone is a piece of ****. However your info about launcher pro and the settings is correct.
I don't understand the hate for the M.A.P. launcher I actually dig it
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Try Launcher Pro as the launcher, register it for the senselike social widget, and get Weather & Toggle Widgets and tbe weather widget forecast addon for your flip clock. This makes for a NICE senselike alternative.
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Oh how about a touchwiz 4.0 like rom I really do miss my quick panel in the notification bar it was really handy :/
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I think any phone with ClockworkMod Recovery can flash TW 4.0. It said that on the homepage awhile ago. Go to the Galaxy S i9000 forums in the Themes and Apps section and one of them is flashable I think and works on any device.
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I think any phone with ClockworkMod Recovery can flash TW 4.0. It said that on the homepage awhile ago. Go to the Galaxy S i9000 forums in the Themes and Apps section and one of them is flashable I think and works on any device.
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Dude remember how unstable it was on our EPICS? I wonder if it has gotten any better though
randomrobbi said:
I honestly don't understand why everyone raves about sense. Yeah, its pretty, but never really added any functionality for me. I had an evo, and had a Evo Shift and the first chance I had to dump sense, I did.
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I used to be a sense guy too.. I mean.. compared to stock android... it blows it out of the water... After getting the Evo I got my wife a Samsung Moment... I upgraded it to 2.2 but I never saw stock android before... I thought it was still 1.5 or something because I couldn't believe stock android looked that bad...
Stock android is ugly as sin.. and the widgets are less than ****.
But then I found Launcher Pro and its "almost-like-sense" widgets for calendar and facebook and I've never looked back. I loved Evo Deck on my Evo and Evo Shift Deck on my wifes phone because it is CM7 with ADW Craplauncher removed and LP added... a much better choice I must say.
LP's widgets are the only thing close to Sense's widgets so until another launcher starts pushing good widgets... I'll never leave.
So to answer the OP... Launcher Pro is the only Sense-like option you have... combined with Fancy Widgets for the flip clock (its the only one that does auto-update of weather based on GPS.)
My wifes Fascinate is dying, I was given a Thunderbolt and rooted it. She just can't get use to the phone's interface. Is there a ROM that makes it look like Samsung's interface?
I also need everything to work, camera, wifi, 4G.... Am I asking to much?
vetteguy112233 said:
My wifes Fascinate is dying, I was given a Thunderbolt and rooted it. She just can't get use to the phone's interface. Is there a ROM that makes it look like Samsung's interface?
I also need everything to work, camera, wifi, 4G.... Am I asking to much?
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As in it having touchwiz? What exactly is she looking for to carry over from what she used on her samsung? Try holo launcher and see if she likes that better. Its on the play store
Put her on liquid ics and then get the touchwiz launcher. Requires android 4.0+
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Put her on liquid ics and then get the touchwiz launcher. Requires android 4.0+
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In another thread he said wife needs camera and camcorder to work so liquid is out. Would the touchwiz work on the nusense ics rom?
Dark Jedi said:
In another thread he said wife needs camera and camcorder to work so liquid is out. Would the touchwiz work on the nusense ics rom?
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Yes although its a stock kernel so no over clocking and probably slower. Unless there is an aosp ics rom fully working
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On the main text section that shows all texts from different people, if you slide your finger across their name from left to right it calls them, if you go right to left it txt's them. She also complained about how many steps there are to make a phone call (that might just be learning this new phone).
I keep hearing about Liquid and it sounds perfect except the video camera doesn't work. She takes a lot of videos of the kids, so it's not an option.
theres a widget in sense called people fav. where you can add their contact to it and tapping the pic it will give you an option of text or call.
I'll teach her how to use the phone properly and install widgets if I can't get a rom that emulates a samsung.
I guess I have nothing to lose. She doesn't really like the current factory setup, so I guess I'll just flash one of the most common ones mentioned and see if she likes it, since nobody makes exactly what I'm looking for.
Thanks for the suggestions!
I really don't want to sound like a jerk when i say this but, if she wanted the phone to act like a Samsung then why did she get it? Why not just get a Samsung? It's going to be a lot of work for something that may have cost a little more.
The closest thing I can think of is a GB rom with sense removed and using GO Launcher EX with the GO Launcher TouchWiz theme. Both are in the play store. For me Go Launcher has always been a little laggy but if she's used to Touch Wiz then she's used to it..
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I really don't want to sound like a jerk when i say this but, if she wanted the phone to act like a Samsung then why did she get it? Why not just get a Samsung? It's going to be a lot of work for something that may have cost a little more.
The closest thing I can think of is a GB rom with sense removed and using GO Launcher EX with the GO Launcher TouchWiz theme. Both are in the play store. For me Go Launcher has always been a little laggy but if she's used to Touch Wiz then she's used to it..
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I understand your question, your not a jerk. I got the phone for FREE and she hadn't ever used any other type of Android phone (other than her Samsung Fascinate), so she wasn't aware they were different.
Thanks for the help.
vetteguy112233 said:
I understand your question, your not a jerk. I got the phone for FREE and she hadn't ever used any other type of Android phone (other than her Samsung Fascinate), so she wasn't aware they were different.
Thanks for the help.
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Gotcha, I understand completely. My family were sold the HTC Thunderbolt because they were told it was a good phone. I took it because it was free with our contract when the district manager set us up. It isn't a horrible phone but I have definitely owned better.
Me and some other guys kinda highjacked another thread so I decided to open a new one here for people to share their opinions, thought and general arguments and if there are easy solutions to the matters that the DNA makes you sad, I did look through the first 10 pages of this section and didn't find anything similar so people, bash away, and bear in mind that what you say will shape my (and others) opinion and whether I should or shouldn't buy this damn amazing piece of equipment
This seems like a good idea, and I can definitely see this helping a lot of people. I'm extremely happy with my DNA thus far; stellar battery life and performance, and the build quality is superb (especially the literal edge-to-edge glass that feels like it flows off the front of the screen). It's also quite resilient - I had it sitting in the passenger seat of my car, got into a pretty serious accident, and the phone doesn't have a single scratch on it. Obviously I got very lucky, but yeah..
On another note, my only gripe is that I can't seem to delete 3 of the stock bookmarks (Google, VZW Home Page, and Your Guide Mobile). I've tried clearing the app data, but that didn't help. I'm not rooted, but I'd think there should be some sort of workaround.. any tips would be appreciated
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On another note, my only gripe is that I can't seem to delete 3 of the stock bookmarks (Google, VZW Home Page, and Your Guide Mobile). I've tried clearing the app data, but that didn't help. I'm not rooted, but I'd think there should be some sort of workaround.. any tips would be appreciated
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I don't think that without root you'll be able to delete them, not sure though and I'm not suggesting you should root cause apart from the warranty being void there's always a risk of bricking, small but is there... I guess for now you gotta live with it.
One thing that annoyed me about the DNA is that they chose to put Back, Menu, and Multitasking as the buttons. So you still have to have the 3-dot menu on screen. Luckily, if you root the device, you can change the multitasking button to Settings (which is exactly what I wanted), so I'm thrilled to have that. The bloatware remover is great as well.
If you aren't afraid to root it, there is awesome stuff out there for it. I won't be using a rom without Sense because I actually like Sense a lot. The lock screen and camera software are the best that I've seen.
The USB flap is annoying, but I will definitely be getting a wireless charger.
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I don't think that without root you'll be able to delete them, not sure though and I'm not suggesting you should root cause apart from the warranty being void there's always a risk of bricking, small but is there... I guess for now you gotta live with it.
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Ah, alright. I'm planning on rooting it eventually.. at some point.. but as you said, there's always that risk lol. Plus, beyond that small issue with the 3 bookmarks, everything else about the phone is perfect even without root, so I can live with it Thanks for your input though!
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This seems like a good idea, and I can definitely see this helping a lot of people. I'm extremely happy with my DNA thus far; stellar battery life and performance, and the build quality is superb (especially the literal edge-to-edge glass that feels like it flows off the front of the screen). It's also quite resilient - I had it sitting in the passenger seat of my car, got into a pretty serious accident, and the phone doesn't have a single scratch on it. Obviously I got very lucky, but yeah..
On another note, my only gripe is that I can't seem to delete 3 of the stock bookmarks (Google, VZW Home Page, and Your Guide Mobile). I've tried clearing the app data, but that didn't help. I'm not rooted, but I'd think there should be some sort of workaround.. any tips would be appreciated
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I don't know if you can do it with the apps you mentioned, but you can disable a lot of apps through settings without root.
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I don't know if you can do it with the apps you mentioned, but you can disable a lot of apps through settings without root.
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Yeah, I've disabled a good amount of apps through settings, but I was talking about the preset bookmarks that show up in my browser and in my bookmark widget.. it let me delete the other 7 or so, but these 3 refuse to be deleted
3 dots
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One thing that annoyed me about the DNA is that they chose to put Back, Menu, and Multitasking as the buttons. So you still have to have the 3-dot menu on screen.
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on the one X you could change it through settings where you choose what the multitasking button does, if I remember correct when you put the button to show the settings menu in single touch and multitask on long press it dissappears, not sure if it works on the dna but give it a try and report back
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Yeah, I've disabled a good amount of apps through settings, but I was talking about the preset bookmarks that show up in my browser and in my bookmark widget.. it let me delete the other 7 or so, but these 3 refuse to be deleted
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I see what you mean. I just tried it myself and couldn't delete those 3 bookmarks either. Guess root is needed to delete them. Unfortunately, currently you cannot write to the system while booted in android on the DNA. You would have to do it through recovery somehow.
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Yeah, I've disabled a good amount of apps through settings, but I was talking about the preset bookmarks that show up in my browser and in my bookmark widget.. it let me delete the other 7 or so, but these 3 refuse to be deleted
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Why not try opera or chrome for browser as a default? I personally prefer opera mobile but try a few first, like maxton and skyfire
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Why not try opera or chrome for browser as a default? I personally prefer opera mobile but try a few first, like maxton and skyfire
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That's a good idea too. I almost never use the stock browser anyway. Boat browser has been pretty good to me as well although any of these would work. What I like about 3rd party browsers probably the most (aside from features) is the fact that I can exit the browser. With the stock one it will just keep running even if you back out of it.
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That's a good idea too. I almost never use the stock browser anyway. Boat browser has been pretty good to me as well although any of these would work. What I like about 3rd party browsers probably the most (aside from features) is the fact that I can exit the browser. With the stock one it will just keep running even if you back out of it.
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true, whenever I flash a new rom and reinstall opera I always activate the exit button on options.
phones been surprisingly awsome on stock.
I rooted the phone so i could run wifi tether. No issues with disconnects and I can actually tether my phone and not have to plug it in for 6-8 hours.
Love the screen, not just how good it looks but the waterfall effect the glass has feels amazing to me. Overall, very pleased with my purchase.
the european version was just announced so I think I'm gonna be going for that cause it states a sd card slot in contrast to the dna,
all the other specs remain the same
so I guess I'll be attending another forum soon, hope you find help on this thread and pm me if I can help with anything
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-butterfly/#specs
My biggest gripe (besides the 3 dot menu button) is the damn messaging app. Every single time I go into it, it 'refreshes.' So many times the app takes a few seconds to load and it shows everyone's phone numbers instead of the names. I just don't understand why.
I'm hesitant to switch to another messaging app because 1) I think they're ugly/love the look of the Sense app and 2) I love how I can see a new message on the Sense lock screen and swipe directly into it.
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My biggest gripe (besides the 3 dot menu button) is the damn messaging app. Every single time I go into it, it 'refreshes.' So many times the app takes a few seconds to load and it shows everyone's phone numbers instead of the names. I just don't understand why.
I'm hesitant to switch to another messaging app because 1) I think they're ugly/love the look of the Sense app and 2) I love how I can see a new message on the Sense lock screen and swipe directly into it.
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It sounds kinda weird, how many contacts and messages do you have? if it's not thousands I guess there might be something wrong
try another messaging app to see if it's persistant or just the sense messaging
I don't have that many contacts, and I definitely don't have that many messages. I limit it to 200 per thread (only a few people reach this), and I even go through and delete it down to like 10 threads that are the most important. Regardless, this shouldn't happen on a phone with 2GB of RAM. Frustrates me to no end.
I posted a thread about this in this section maybe a week or two ago, and a few users chimed in saying they were seeing similar behavior. I don't think it's just me.
Mine does the refresh on sms too. Its like 1 second though so not a big deal.
Had the phone for a week. Battery life has been excellent. This is the first time in 2 years I havent had to charge my phone at work at all. Consistently get well over 4 hours screen on time. Although I've noticed using non-sense launcher its not quite as good but still excellent.
The screen is amazing and even at 5 inches it fits comfortably in the hand. Even pushing this many pixels I have yet to notice anything id call lag.
The 3-dot menu can be annoying if you notice it. Hoping for an update somewhere to deal with that at some point. I've also had issues with Netflix not loading properly but I blame the app. Also, I've noticed when I change lockscreen style, like to productivity or something it doesn't work too smoothly. Not being able to change wallpaper on a screen longpress kinda baffles me as well.
The phone definitely has some quirks and some areas where HTC could have made the operation of things more efficient instead of adding unnecessary steps. But I would definitely recommend this phone to anyone it is really a pleasure to use.
Btw, being left handed, am I the only one that wishes the back button was on the right instead of the left?
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crossmission said:
on the one X you could change it through settings where you choose what the multitasking button does, if I remember correct when you put the button to show the settings menu in single touch and multitask on long press it dissappears, not sure if it works on the dna but give it a try and report back
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Nah, for some reason, they took that out of the DNA. Can't change it in the stock options.
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Btw, being left handed, am I the only one that wishes the back button was on the right instead of the left?
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I'm right handed and wish it was on the right because my thumb isn't long enough to reach it on the left.
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Is it me or can i do MORE with Microsoft launcher on my Note 9 than i can with this device?
I cannot find any launcher settings/features. I have dev mode on as well....and i got nothing.....
Is it me or am i missing something?
It appears as if this is using a modified version of Launcher for foldable phones, which does appear to lack a lot of customization features from the traditional Launcher.
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It appears as if this is using a modified version of Launcher for foldable phones, which does appear to lack a lot of customization features from the traditional Launcher.
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i'm sure someone will figure something out because this is kinda a bummer....those bars on the bottom are BRUTAL.....
This launcher needs help ASAP! The icons alone are brutal and there is zero customization to the launcher. I really like the Pixel launcher which has some but not a ton of customization and the normal M/S launcher is decent, I would be happy with that level but here is nothing currently going on here.
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How about some simple stuff like double tap to wake the screen since there isn't an AOD?
And why is the notification shade so narrow in comparison to the screen width??
I personally hate the pull down anywhere on the homescreen to search feature, I want to turn it off.
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I personally hate the pull down anywhere on the homescreen to search feature, I want to turn it off.
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I hate that too.... making more lags when is already pretty laggy
I found a little bit of settings but i can't disable many things i want..... example pull down laggy search menu
Press that Microsoft Launcher setting icon
avetny said:
I found a little bit of settings but i can't disable many things i want..... example pull down laggy search menu
Press that Microsoft Launcher setting icon
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Oh nice. yeah still limited. thinking its cause the OS cannot handle the extra features right now...most reviewers said the device wasn't even usebale prior to this day 1 patch....they got on the 5th...so id imagine.... we got a ways out or until someone brilliant creates a fork.
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Oh nice. yeah still limited. thinking its cause the OS cannot handle the extra features right now...most reviewers said the device wasn't even usebale prior to this day 1 patch....they got on the 5th...so id imagine.... we got a ways out or until someone brilliant creates a fork.
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I'm playing games and i see device actually running any game on super high settings exactly the same as Snap865!
So the kernel in very good shape.
I just don't understand where this micro lags coming from.... launcher!!!?? Rom? or maybe it is a kernel.
I'm happy that Microsoft didn't lock the bootloader.... so we have access to open a hood.
Don't know if I will be able to wait so long.
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I'm playing games and i see device actually running any game on super high settings exactly the same as Snap865!
So the kernel in very good shape.
I just don't understand where this micro lags coming from.... launcher!!!?? Rom? or maybe it is a kernel.
I'm happy that Microsoft didn't lock the bootloader.... so we have access to open a hood.
Don't know if I will be able to wait so long.
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I think its the launcher. I installed lawnchair and it seemed overall snappier. Went back to microsoft launcher though because other launchers act wonky when switching between postures.
avetny said:
I'm playing games and i see device actually running any game on super high settings exactly the same as Snap865!
So the kernel in very good shape.
I just don't understand where this micro lags coming from.... launcher!!!?? Rom? or maybe it is a kernel.
I'm happy that Microsoft didn't lock the bootloader.... so we have access to open a hood.
Don't know if I will be able to wait so long.
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Yeah I get what you mean I been back n forth between this and the fold2
Supposedly an update per month on the duo is what was said.... Let's see how well that pans out.
The studders are really odd.
What would you move to from this?
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Yeah I get what you mean I been back n forth between this and the fold2
Supposedly an update per month on the duo is what was said.... Let's see how well that pans out.
The studders are really odd.
What would you move to from this?
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I came from Sony Xperia 1 Mark II (latest flagship)
Yeah It was Note20Ultra or Fold2 but im gonna hold out and see what the deal is with a new launcher setup for this thing hopefully sooner than later.
I fear that Microsoft held onto all the cards and didnt let 3rd parties in on the goods to develop ahead as they want everything to be theirs on the front end for a long as possible....issue is....its not holding water and i think they gotta act fast.... Lets see what aftermarket comes up with now.
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Yeah It was Note20Ultra or Fold2 but im gonna hold out and see what the deal is with a new launcher setup for this thing hopefully sooner than later.
I fear that Microsoft held onto all the cards and didnt let 3rd parties in on the goods to develop ahead as they want everything to be theirs on the front end for a long as possible....issue is....its not holding water and i think they gotta act fast.... Lets see what aftermarket comes up with now.
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Except that goes against what Microsoft actually did, releasing the API's and an emulator image for the duo a few months ago.
Right now, Android 10 is kind of hacked together to handle a lot of the dual screen features, but android 11 has those API's built in, so hopefully 11 will help out with a lot of the bugs we are seeing.
so when i try to install Nova, it runs as a layer on top of stock MS launcher.. like i can see both lauchers with their icons..really weird!
At this point unless a launcher developer goes to the trouble to make their product compatible with the Duo it will be M/S or nothing. I'm hoping their next software drop will help a number of the the launcher issues.
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so when i try to install Nova, it runs as a layer on top of stock MS launcher.. like i can see both lauchers with their icons..really weird!
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Both launchers leave "remnants" of themselves when you switch defaults. The way I got around it was to force-stop the Microsoft Launcher and make sure Nova Launcher was the default. This actually works pretty well. The problem is that Nova Launcher isn't optimized for this environment, and things get weird. So back to Microsoft Launcher I went.
Saw the post about lawnchair. And doing adb to disable... May try that