Root for MetroPCS Samsung Admire R720 - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

when will a working root be available for the MetroPCS Samsung Admire R720? We are desperate here :/

itsmigsz said:
when will a working root be available for the MetroPCS Samsung Admire R720? We are desperate here :/
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how can you be desperate? you posted a day ago. i want a root myself, but take a breath and give the guys with the programming skills the time to do their magic!
that being said, i'd appreciate one myself.

I am also dying for root on this phone. It has been 2 weeks for me and nothing. The phone is slowing down a bi due to all the metro crapware installed that I cant get rid off without root.
Programmerrrrrsssssssss, we neeeeeedddd ROOT on the Admire please!!!

I have to admit that i'm looking forward to one too. I'm sick of all the bloatware they load that turns itself on when you have no need of it.
Right now, after using Advanced Task Killer and then checking 1 hour later with no actual use on the phone, there is "voice search", "Visual Voice Mail" and "myMetro" that are all running and unkillable.

androidinvasion.us/forum/index.php/topic,16.0.html <<< Posts methods, tests ran and pasties here
webchat.fossnet.info/channel/admire/file/index.html <<< Join Chat for discussion and help with active devs working on this root
please post here methods and tests that you have run. pasties from cmd prompt so we dont double up on steps.
this will be closely moderated and updated frequently. stay tuned, register and post please. lets work together

samsung admire root question
I did the root on the phone it said congrats blah blah blah. When i opened root manager it says i have to have clockwork mod recovery installed when i try that it pops up a list with phones ofcourse the admire is not on it yet. is there another way to back up my current rom? Sorry for the noob questions

KB0SDQ said:
I did the root on the phone it said congrats blah blah blah. When i opened root manager it says i have to have clockwork mod recovery installed when i try that it pops up a list with phones ofcourse the admire is not on it yet. is there another way to back up my current rom? Sorry for the noob questions
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Titanium backup is your next best bet... saves all apks you want even the data and the system apparently... hope I helped
Sent from my SCH-R720 using xda premium

yes you have I just purchased the titanium backup and works well also was able to uninstall some of the bloatware and freeze the rest. this board rocks. Glad i was able to join.
Doug
Samsung Admire (rooted)
Metropcs

KB0SDQ said:
yes you have I just purchased the titanium backup and works well also was able to uninstall some of the bloatware and freeze the rest. this board rocks. Glad i was able to join.
Doug
Samsung Admire (rooted)
Metropcs
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Glad it worked nomore metro crap hogging memory also try setcpu it. Can open the true speed of your phone without alot of battery drain or you can set it to help extend your battery that's what I have on my rooted admire I have running smooth with 10hrs of heavy texting emailing and YouTubing
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One Click Root for SCH-R720
So no one bricks their phones... Many of these are self-explanatory and you can figure most out from the icons, but better safe than sorry.
These are located in /system/app so don't go deleting things you're unsure of.
Easy-WiFi-android-4.0.136.apk - MetroPCS Easy WiFi
(You could leave this intact as it circumvents the login procedure at SOME public hotspots (such as Starbucks))
Metro411_V1.0.7.1_02042011.apk - Metro411
metroappstore1.5.apk - Metro App Store
(You may want to leave this if you want to rebloat your phone, but otherwise useless)
MetroBackup_1.70.apk - Metro BackUp
(We have droids, our contacts are safe with the benevolent Google, as long as your account is set up)
MetroPCS_Visual_Voice_Mail_3_14_04.apk - Visual Voice Mail
MetroSTUDIO_v1.00.30_Build30_03302011.apk - MetroStudio
MyExtras.apk - My Extras
(They're extra annoying)
MyMetro.apk
(May consider leaving as it allows you to view account info, but can be removed)
Samsung_R720_IMandSocial_V4.0.8_build0203.apk - IM and Social
(AIM, Facebook, Twitter, crap like that)
SamsungR720_MetroNavigator_4.9.1_Build_86_04252011 _rel_signed_PROD.apk - MetroNavigator
(We have Navigation for this)
ThinkFree.apk - ThinkFree Office
(May be useful to some people)
z7-android2x.apk - [email protected]
(Not necessary unless you don't use Gmail)
Hope this helps!
One Click Root for SCH-R720 Google
Superuser.apk
next Market Titanium Backup
Done !!!

So, I've rooted my Admire, but there are still apps I can't get rid of. I installed SSHDroid, and even that won't let me delete files. I can't freeze them either, with Titanium Backup (Wishing I would have saved the cash). Everything says its running as root, but there's obviously some problem. Is anyone else experiencing this?

edsfunsite said:
So, I've rooted my Admire, but there are still apps I can't get rid of. I installed SSHDroid, and even that won't let me delete files. I can't freeze them either, with Titanium Backup (Wishing I would have saved the cash). Everything says its running as root, but there's obviously some problem. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Install superuser and give root only apps access
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itsmigsz said:
when will a working root be available for the MetroPCS Samsung Admire R720? We are desperate here :/
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Hope you all arent still looking Im ROOTED

jaybuzz said:
Hope you all arent still looking Im ROOTED
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Which site did you use to download the root program? I'm still trying to figure out how to room my Admire Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Josh
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Hey Everyone,
I live in Sacramento CA and was told we have 3G here, but I've had my Admire since since Friday and still haven't seen a 3G on my phone.. Not even once! Is there something I need to do or download to make this happen? I tried taking out the battery and then calling *228 option 5 to update the prl, but still my phone is at 3019. My friend has had her Admire since Oct and today had our phones right next to eachother. She had 3G and I still have my 1X! The city we were in isn't even suppose to have 3G yet, and yet she had it! What is wrong with my phone??
Also I'm trying to root my phone, but I have no idea which site I should use to download the root.. I already have titanium backup (free version) and as soon as I'm rooted I will download the PRO.
Any help would be very very appreciated!!
Thank you!
Josh

OK, so Im reading this thread about the metro pcs samsung admire, I have the gingerbread 2,3,4.. Im looking for a root or a how to root this phone but this thread seems not to have the answer. Anyone please help.

still confused
so how do i root my android admire, i know this is a noobish question , but i am very confused and need help plz

BoiPhresh said:
Glad it worked nomore metro crap hogging memory also try setcpu it. Can open the true speed of your phone without alot of battery drain or you can set it to help extend your battery that's what I have on my rooted admire I have running smooth with 10hrs of heavy texting emailing and YouTubing
Sent from my SCH-R720 using xda premium
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Can you please post some screen shots or help us out with some voltages? over clocking mhz? governor, scheduler settings please??
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plagiatstudio said:
So no one bricks their phones... Many of these are self-explanatory and you can figure most out from the icons, but better safe than sorry.
These are located in /system/app so don't go deleting things you're unsure of.
Easy-WiFi-android-4.0.136.apk - MetroPCS Easy WiFi
(You could leave this intact as it circumvents the login procedure at SOME public hotspots (such as Starbucks))
Metro411_V1.0.7.1_02042011.apk - Metro411
metroappstore1.5.apk - Metro App Store
(You may want to leave this if you want to rebloat your phone, but otherwise useless)
MetroBackup_1.70.apk - Metro BackUp
(We have droids, our contacts are safe with the benevolent Google, as long as your account is set up)
MetroPCS_Visual_Voice_Mail_3_14_04.apk - Visual Voice Mail
MetroSTUDIO_v1.00.30_Build30_03302011.apk - MetroStudio
MyExtras.apk - My Extras
(They're extra annoying)
MyMetro.apk
(May consider leaving as it allows you to view account info, but can be removed)
Samsung_R720_IMandSocial_V4.0.8_build0203.apk - IM and Social
(AIM, Facebook, Twitter, crap like that)
SamsungR720_MetroNavigator_4.9.1_Build_86_04252011 _rel_signed_PROD.apk - MetroNavigator
(We have Navigation for this)
ThinkFree.apk - ThinkFree Office
(May be useful to some people)
z7-android2x.apk - [email protected]
(Not necessary unless you don't use Gmail)
Hope this helps!
One Click Root for SCH-R720 Google
Superuser.apk
next Market Titanium Backup
Done !!!
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Where do we find the version that we need for clockwork mod?? and do you know of any roms that we can install?? cm 10??

You can have clockwork I have 5.0.2.8 and there's hella roms too go on android forums or abcindicate
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How to properly use Titanium Back Up??

Hey All,
I would like to ask anyone who knows how I can properly use Titanium Backup I would really appreciate it. The problem i've had before is that when ever I backup I never seem to know how to properly back up my apps so I can also back up the data like my saved games on angry birds, and my tags on sound hound. If I back up and thn restore I always mess something up and my roms end up all screwed. please some one guide me!!!!
I usually only backup user apps. Press the options button on the bottom left of the vibrant. Then choose batch, then choose backup all user apps.
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briankao1992 said:
I usually only backup user apps. Press the options button on the bottom left of the vibrant. Then choose batch, then choose backup all user apps.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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Like I said though, doing that only backs up the apps but it doesn't back up the data i.e. shazam tags, etc.
ibuddha said:
Hey All,
I would like to ask anyone who knows how I can properly use Titanium Backup I would really appreciate it. The problem i've had before is that when ever I backup I never seem to know how to properly back up my apps so I can also back up the data like my saved games on angry birds, and my tags on sound hound. If I back up and thn restore I always mess something up and my roms end up all screwed. please some one guide me!!!!
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I always select Back up all APP + System data option and that should work
There is a thread on the proper use of Titanium and the best practices, its on my list to find and study today. When I find it I will post and edit.
Don
Edit: I found it in the captivate section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808255
In addition above is some good advice on Rom manager I use both.
Edit2: not much there sorry.... the search goes on.
12paq said:
There is a thread on the proper use of Titanium and the best practices, its on my list to find and study today. When I find it I will post and edit.
Don
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im interested in this too.
the pain of setting everything up again is actually the only thing keeping me from flashing a new rom. (flashed my mytouch so much that i only kept a few apps)
and can the free version do everything the paid version can do?
kboater said:
im interested in this too.
the pain of setting everything up again is actually the only thing keeping me from flashing a new rom. (flashed my mytouch so much that i only kept a few apps)
and can the free version do everything the paid version can do?
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I found the post its an edit link to my post above. It was in the captivate section but it still should be relevant. Good luck!
Edit: not much there sorry.... the search goes on.
12paq said:
I found the post its an edit link to my post above. It was in the captivate section but it still should be relevant. Good luck!
Edit: not much there sorry.... the search goes on.
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thanks alot. I'll look at it now. I hate flashing ROMS sometimes because I don't get my app data. It sucks having to start Angry Birds from leverl 1 every time I flash something!
I use mybackup pro n backup apps. ..gives option to backup apk + data. Has worked well for me. Don't have re -download apps or anything.
I know this doesn't necessarily answer the question but it gives a way to backup apps+data(bookmarks,texts,call log, settings, etc)
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How to pretend I'm not rooted...

Have a rooted Thunderbolt. Am trying to install an app approved by my employer to access email, calendar, and contacts from my phone instead of using my employer issued blackberry. I'm all approved but ran into a snag.
It locked the application because my phone is rooted.
None of the pre-requisites mention it not being allowed on a rooted phone, but that's beside the point. Is there a way to make the app think it's not rooted? I'd rather carry my Blackberry around as a seoncd phone, as awful as it is, than unroot my phone and go back to a stock rom.
Didn't see anything when searching...please help!
Thunderbolt running DasBAMF Forever 1.0.7, imoseyons 3.8 lean kernal
What email client are you trying to set up? I have read a few threads about people having issues with corporate email accounts on rooted phones. I do not think I've ever read a solution that worked either. Do some searches for Corporate Email with root on the normal forums we all browse and I'm sure you will see the number of people asking to accomplish this is significant.
It's a client called "Good". It basically encapsulates all company information (email, contacts, calendars) encrypted within the application. Also allows the IT department to wipe the data remotely without wiping your phone. Company I work for is a huge company "300k plus) and has always been BlackBerry only. They're just now rolling this out to android and iphone...but the "Rooted?" criteria is messing me up.
I'll keep searching, but have had little luck so far.
Just unroot if it is a work phone, why take chances.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
The first time you launched it, did it request superuser permissions ? If so, and you said "allow", it knows you're phone is rooted by the exit code it got back from the 'su' app. If that happens, try this:
- in your app drawer, find the program "Superuser" and launch it.
- scroll through list to find "Good", then tap it
- depending on your version of SU you might have different options to choose here
- tap the 'trashcan' icon
- exit Superuser app and try your "Good" app again
If that doesn't work, try this:
- uninstall app
- reinstall app
- launch app
- DENY access to superuser rights when prompted
If it's determining it has root access another way, I can't help...
Grnlantern79 said:
Just unroot if it is a work phone, why take chances.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
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It's not a work phone...it's my personal phone. The whole idea is you turn in your BlackBerry and then they give you a $25/mo allowance toward your personal cell bill, then you can still access all the stuff you need from work.
FWIW, I searched the forum (all devices) for "Good for Enterprise" and hit the jackpot. Guess it's all about phrasing it right. Here's an example of one of the helpful links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032268
So, once i have a custom ROM, is there a way to re-root but keep the ROM? Would I lose access to CWM (for nandroid backups)? I assume I'd lose titanium backup and wireless tether...tough choices. I haven't lived without root in so long that I don't know if I can do it...
Hehe, interesting...
Good for Enterprise on rooted phones
Have fun reading !! I haven't checked any of those results yet myself.
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Based on the first link I checked from ^^ above ^^, it doesn't base it on how you respond to Superuser, it simply looks for the existence of su.apk, superuser.apk, etc. If it finds them, it stops. And no, renaming those files, then running it won't work either as it checks every time it's run !!
One alternative is:
Create a script file that a) renames the relevant superuser files, b) launches "Good", and finally, when "Good" exits, c) renames the superuser files back to their original names.
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Recent update to this app, according to "What's New" page in the Market (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.good.android.gfe&hl=en): Security Enhancements: Better detection of rooted devices to protect your information​ You may be fighting a losing battle on this one. Even if you figure a way around it, rest assured that the developers of the app browse Android forums seeing how people are NOW getting around their detection routines and will defeat those next.
Of course, it's POSSIBLE that turning this detection on is an admin-level setting that you could ask the IT folks to turn off. It sounds like it's phone-level though, unless on launch, it first queries it's back-end server and then does the relevant checks on the phone side.
It checks every time it's launched, and can be checked at any time. Sucks.
To be honest, I don't blame them for blocking rooted phones...as sensitive as the information is that will be in the app, I'd probably do it too. I just don't want to give up my custom ROM, wireless tether and titanium backup
Would deleting su and superuser.apk have any negative effects (other than disallowing rooted apps)? From what i can tell, those are what Good uses to check for root. Removing them would effectively remove root, so I would be in compliance. And in theory, i could just restore from a rooted nandroid backup to get root back, right?
Try ota rootkeeper app..its free in the market
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bigcez74 said:
Try ota rootkeeper app..its free in the market
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This was the closest yet...fantastic app. It does successfully remove su and temporarily removes root. However, it looks like GFE also checks for existence of hte superuser.apk. I've messaged the dev to see if there's a way to hide that, but considering that's what's used to root and unroot at will, not sure how that'd work. Hopefully the dev is smarter than me and can figure something out! But very close.
is that the only app that will work for checking your email? could you just add a new exchange activesync account and configure it properly?
just a thought...
brad r said:
is that the only app that will work for checking your email? could you just add a new exchange activesync account and configure it properly?
just a thought...
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I wish. This is the only way they allow due to the extra encryption and ability to remotely wipe data.
Two Words: Dual Boot.
Get your regular "At home" rooted rom all nice and prettied up, then when you get in the car for work, boot into a stock rom that isn't rooted for work specifically.
Guide: http://lifehacker.com/5826050/how-to-dual-boot-multiple-roms-on-your-android-phone
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TUDrewser said:
This was the closest yet...fantastic app. It does successfully remove su and temporarily removes root. However, it looks like GFE also checks for existence of hte superuser.apk. I've messaged the dev to see if there's a way to hide that, but considering that's what's used to root and unroot at will, not sure how that'd work. Hopefully the dev is smarter than me and can figure something out! But very close.
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Try this:
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.phantasm.xposed.gfesecuritypatcher
Designed to block the root checker of good for enterprise
hi. you can use apps such as Hide my root. they are available in Google Play.
Good Luck

[q] so i rooted my phone, now what???

The title says it all.....
I am NOT looking to flash a ROM yet. I want to stick with the stock rom / sense...
Now that I took all the bloatware off.....
What else could / should I do????
Maybe improve battery life?
Maybe tweak settings??
What are some cool things I can do to my cool Amaze...
What do you guys think????? I need ur opinions!!!
mznatnat said:
The title says it all.....
I am NOT looking to flash a ROM yet. I want to stick with the stock rom / sense...
Now that I took all the bloatware off.....
What else could / should I do????
Maybe improve battery life?
Maybe tweak settings??
What are some cool things I can do to my cool Amaze...
What do you guys think????? I need ur opinions!!!
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Lol most of what you ask comes with flashing custom roms and kernels. I guess you can start by exploring root only apps...?
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda premium
Try System Tuner (free on the market)
adjust clock speed when the phone is on standby. You will see a significance in battery. Or you can try a different battery app. Explore your options.
Sent by accident from my Amaze using Tapatalk
highly recommend titanium backup on the market it's worth the price...you can get rid of bloatware with it too, and back up and and all programs and their data...
the person above is right, system tuner is a good program, but I don't know how it'll do with the stock kernel, if you downclock your phone you might start to see some lag...if you do decide to do that make sure you go to boot settings in system tuner and make sure set cpu on boot completion so everytime your phone restarts you don't have to reset the settings you put in system tuner..
honestly the best way to get a better battery life is don't install a lot of junk and you can also use the program juice defender...
install badass battery program and see what is sucking up the battery...
good luck
glacierguy said:
Lol most of what you ask comes with flashing custom roms and kernels. I guess you can start by exploring root only apps...?
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda premium
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Thanks .... Ill try it out in about an hour or so.....
This load of crap was sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using Tapatalk.
seansk said:
highly recommend titanium backup on the market it's worth the price...you can get rid of bloatware with it too, and back up and and all programs and their data...
the person above is right, system tuner is a good program, but I don't know how it'll do with the stock kernel, if you downclock your phone you might start to see some lag...if you do decide to do that make sure you go to boot settings in system tuner and make sure set cpu on boot completion so everytime your phone restarts you don't have to reset the settings you put in system tuner..
honestly the best way to get a better battery life is don't install a lot of junk and you can also use the program juice defender...
install badass battery program and see what is sucking up the battery...
good luck
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I actually already have titanium backup .... Its a great app.... That's how I removed all my bloatware.....
And thanks ill follow your advice ..... I appreciate it...
This load of crap was sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using Tapatalk.
mznatnat said:
the title says it all.....
I am not looking to flash a rom yet. I want to stick with the stock rom / sense...
Now that i took all the bloatware off.....
What else could / should i do???? .................................................................
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status update:
Removed too much when i removed bloatware.... Bluetooth = gone... I effed up!
Should always freeze apps before removing permanently. Did you do a nandroid or titanium backup?
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aaldiar said:
Should always freeze apps before removing permanently. Did you do a nandroid or titanium backup?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using Tapatalk
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Nope.... I didn't do any of it because like an idiot... I thought I knew what I was doing..... FML!
Hello,
Similar situation here. Rooted my Droid Razr Maxx today to remove the Verizon bloatware. I only did this because they where insisting I update their apps and give them more permissions and I didn't use them either.
I'm not looking to use a custom rom or anything, just wanted to remove those apps. I did use the backup option on each app prior to deleting it.
The Beginners guide suggests I add CWM. Is this really needed for my situation or should I get this setup as well? I won't be loading any roms and plan to stick with the default one. I am fine with it just wanted the bloatware to be gone.
I would've flashed a recovery first. Just because you can make a backup and reflash it just incase something goes wrong. Like removing something you shouldn't have. To each his own. But if the RZR Maxx is anything like the older Moto devices you can use RSD Lite to go back to completely stock. So since this is the HTC Amaze Forum I don't know if that option is available for the RZR. You can navigate yourself to those forums and ask over there.
Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
hackShack said:
Hello,
Similar situation here. Rooted my Droid Razr Maxx today to remove the Verizon bloatware. I only did this because they where insisting I update their apps and give them more permissions and I didn't use them either.
I'm not looking to use a custom rom or anything, just wanted to remove those apps. I did use the backup option on each app prior to deleting it.
The Beginners guide suggests I add CWM. Is this really needed for my situation or should I get this setup as well? I won't be loading any roms and plan to stick with the default one. I am fine with it just wanted the bloatware to be gone.
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Did you remove your bloatware yet??? Or are you about to?
I used titanium backup to backup the apps before I deleted them.
I haven't used TB in a long time.. But I don't think you can restore system/apps after they are removed. Unless its different now.
Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
I have the option on the apps I removed to restore them from backup.
I have yesterday flashed ICS first time in my life, rooted it and installed titanium backup Pro (the first time too). Then I uninstalled more than forty precious pre-installed apps what definitely were placed there for my benefit and thriving...
So far everything’s running just perfect. I can’t imaging smartphone can perform better than what I hold and play in my hands. I am so happy again with my amaze.
However, I still have seven apps “frozen” in my TB. I do not understand what to do.
1. Google Backup Transport.
2. Google One Time Init.
3. Google Partner Setup.
4. Maps.
5. PC Synchronization.
6. Location Picker.
7. Network Location.
PLEASE someone who understand the meaning of the aforementioned ones advise me so I would better refrain from removing them too..
Thank You. Merci Beaucoup. Muchas Gracias. Danke.
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jauhien said:
I have yesterday flashed ICS first time in my life, rooted it and installed titanium backup Pro (the first time too). Then I uninstalled more than forty precious pre-installed apps what definitely were placed there for my benefit and thriving...
So far everything’s running just perfect. I can’t imaging smartphone can perform better than what I hold and play in my hands. I am so happy again with my amaze.
However, I still have seven apps “frozen” in my TB. I do not understand what to do.
1. Google Backup Transport.
2. Google One Time Init.
3. Google Partner Setup.
4. Maps.
5. PC Synchronization.
6. Location Picker.
7. Network Location.
PLEASE someone who understand the meaning of the aforementioned ones advise me so I would better refrain from removing them too..
Thank You. Merci Beaucoup. Muchas Gracias. Danke.
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If you ask me, those apps that you have frozen are quite important to your phone. I have to go to work I am late so I'll try to respond in depth tomorrow when I get back.

To root or not root; a conversation.

Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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Honeybadger said:
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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Thanks very much for the opinion, advice and experience!
Reading now.
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For the remaining 10% off your questions not found in those threads or searching, feel free to ask!
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort.
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That's true except for one product line.
NEXUS DEVICES
Even the nexus s, that was released with the debut of GINGERBREAD is officially supported by Google with a 4.2.2 firmware of its own.
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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What about being to move apps to sd?
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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Maybe it isn't climbing Everest, but I do rely on my phone and in turn I need it reliable. Lockups and waiting for reboots is a worry.
I need apps to work at least 95 percent of the time. I understand and occasionally sunspot caused glitch is acceptable but should be occasional. So yes, I do worry about my constant companion.
I am not just talking about rooting but finding the right ROM which will make my phone more usable and more reliable than the At&t stock rom, just trying to find the right one and install it right the first time.
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PrincessKiwi said:
^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
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Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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Honeybadger said:
Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
PrincessKiwi said:
the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience!
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
rangercaptain said:
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
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How do make apps store data on the ext card while keeping those apps internal?
rangercaptain said:
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
---------- Post added at 07:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 AM ----------
And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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Thanks for the advice, one of the reasons I am looking at upgrading is I also want google now which only cones with jb.
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That's a good reason. But our JB ROMs are the result of great effort and professionalism from our developers, but they are experimental and have issues. So to gain some features, you will definitely lose some.
I have been using 4.1.# then 4.2.2 and I think I'm going back to the N7005 ROM because I miss the features I bought the phone for. Anyway, as someone said, read and decide what the tradeoffs are, and you can always go backwards.
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Honeybadger said:
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
440bro said:
Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
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Thank you Thank you! I have had titanium backup for year but only on an old tablet that I can't do anything with anymore. It's rooted but no roms available for it.
Thought I would have to root the phone before I could back it up, but will follow you plan.
Thanks again!
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[Q] what to do????

Ok help!! I finally broke down and bought an unlocked zoom on the net. It is a great phone, we love it. I use ultrame for a carrier, now it comes down to this> The phone originally is ATT, I read all over here and am confused, if I root it is there a way to remove the ATT software?? will it really mess with the GPS?? will I loose other functions on the phone??? I am confused and yes I talk to myself at times. But I am getting fifty responses all different as to what to do, or just leave the phone alone? It works great, camera is beyond belief. any opinions?????????thanks red423
red423 said:
Ok help!! I finally broke down and bought an unlocked zoom on the net. It is a great phone, we love it. I use ultrame for a carrier, now it comes down to this> The phone originally is ATT, I read all over here and am confused, if I root it is there a way to remove the ATT software?? will it really mess with the GPS?? will I loose other functions on the phone??? I am confused and yes I talk to myself at times. But I am getting fifty responses all different as to what to do, or just leave the phone alone? It works great, camera is beyond belief. any opinions?????????thanks red423
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If you root with kingoroot nothing will happen to your gps.. Mine works just fine. After root, use titanium backup to delete the att bloat and you will have no worries.
red423 said:
Ok help!! I finally broke down and bought an unlocked zoom on the net. It is a great phone, we love it. I use ultrame for a carrier, now it comes down to this> The phone originally is ATT, I read all over here and am confused, if I root it is there a way to remove the ATT software?? will it really mess with the GPS?? will I loose other functions on the phone??? I am confused and yes I talk to myself at times. But I am getting fifty responses all different as to what to do, or just leave the phone alone? It works great, camera is beyond belief. any opinions?????????thanks red423
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I understand your worries but as the above member said, you have nothing to worry about. I have the International unlocked version (Not AT&T's) and I rooted it with 'Kingo Root' 2 weeks ago and everything is fine.
So, by acquiring root, you can use Titanium Backup to disable/freeze or delete AT&T apks. Now I suggest you only freeze them first, reboot your phone, use it a bit, make sure there are no errors happening since some APKs are needed by the system for your phone to function or else it will crash and not boot-up properly. So freeze first, test your phone, if all is good, delete them. I personally only delete apks that I am sure I don't need or those that I can re-download from the Play Store if need be. The rest, I just freeze them and forget about them. They can't act on their own if they're frozen =).
Btw, you can still disable/freeze apps without root by going to System settings - More - Application manager, and swipe to "All" category, and find the ones you don't want, click on them, and then click on "Turn Off". (I still prefer Titanium Backup since it shows me all apks and freezes all of them)
got the root
Ok I got the root, so the titanium says no freeze without donating, there are a few ATT apps that show up, on the zoom which ones have you guys just removed forever???? or is there another program like titanium to remove att bloat ware???? AND A BIG THANK YOU FOR REPLYING!!!!!!!!! I am all rooted now and want to make sure if i erase apk's they are the correct ones I cant freeze. red423
Ramsey said:
I understand your worries but as the above member said, you have nothing to worry about. I have the International unlocked version (Not AT&T's) and I rooted it with 'Kingo Root' 2 weeks ago and everything is fine.
So, by acquiring root, you can use Titanium Backup to disable/freeze or delete AT&T apks. Now I suggest you only freeze them first, reboot your phone, use it a bit, make sure there are no errors happening since some APKs are needed by the system for your phone to function or else it will crash and not boot-up properly. So freeze first, test your phone, if all is good, delete them. I personally only delete apks that I am sure I don't need or those that I can re-download from the Play Store if need be. The rest, I just freeze them and forget about them. They can't act on their own if they're frozen =).
Btw, you can still disable/freeze apps without root by going to System settings - More - Application manager, and swipe to "All" category, and find the ones you don't want, click on them, and then click on "Turn Off". (I still prefer Titanium Backup since it shows me all apks and freezes all of them)
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red423 said:
Ok I got the root, so the titanium says no freeze without donating, there are a few ATT apps that show up, on the zoom which ones have you guys just removed forever???? or is there another program like titanium to remove att bloat ware???? AND A BIG THANK YOU FOR REPLYING!!!!!!!!! I am all rooted now and want to make sure if i erase apk's they are the correct ones I cant freeze. red423
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Sorry I am using the International version so I don't know which AT&T to remove. I didn't get any carrier bloatware with my phone.
You guys rock!!!!!!
Well I have disabled several of the old ATT apps. and the phone screams, very impressive. If go to samsung will it update to kit kat ????
Got this far why not go all the way????????????? thanks red423
red423 said:
Well I have disabled several of the old ATT apps. and the phone screams, very impressive. If go to samsung will it update to kit kat ????
Got this far why not go all the way????????????? thanks red423
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Great! glad it worked out. I had an S4 prior to this and this Zoom is quicker and smoother I just miss the bigger screen + resolution and thinner body.
There's no kitkat update yet but apparently they announced it and should be out in the coming months hopefully!

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