Stop flaming CyanogenMOD and the team!!! - HTC EVO 3D

lately, as i've been reading about cm7, people have been flaming cm7, comparing it to other AOSP roms, or are concerned about what score they are going to get on cm7 vs *****'s rom.
STOP!
below i've pointed out a couple things that you should take the time to read, especially if you're flaming cm7.
1) cm7 will be supported for the EVO3D, it may take a while for GSM, but thats not stopping me from waiting. be patient! toast wouldn't release something that is utter crap just for him to get flamed by the noobs who are already ignorant enough to think cm7 is just a rom without sense.
2) cm7 may not have the highest scores, but who the hell cares about scores?! if your phone runs smoother and faster on cm7 but doesn't get amazing quad scores or linpack etc, why are you complaining? i dont know about you but when i show my friends my phone its about how fast it is and what it can do, not about a number that they might not even understand (especially if they use bb or iphone)
3) why is cm7 the only rom that is flamed so much? because either they seem to have forgotten to install or run a patch or install a kernel that does "x" feature and then they start complaining about it. the fact is the its probably YOUR OWN ignorance that is making cyanogen run like crap on your phone or not doing it what you want. so if something is working or broken, use the SEARCH button or ASK instead of flaming!
4) once CM7 comes, dont go posting its "BUGGY, THIS ROM SUCKS BECAUSE XXXX FEATURE IS BROKEN." If you don't like using NIGHTLIES then wait for an RC or a full release! nightlies are for people to test and REPORT not RANT about what problems need to be fixed.
5) cm7 is not a rom that is 'just' AOSP and a rom w/o sense. its much more, but if you're ignorant enough to think that, then you probably haven't explored android that much, or you really just dont know how much more usuable and cleaned up cm7 is compared to sense or other roms that may be out there. (not trying to explicitly bash other peoples roms)
6) stop complaining that some 'AOSP' rom on your old phone worked way better. "Oh 'xxxxxx' rom is so much better than cm7, why are they bothering to port cm7 when they should be porting 'xxxxxx' AOSP rom!!! "
maybe because 9 out of 10 AOSP roms that you got on your old phone were BASED OFF OF CM7. devs may write a kernel that is built specifically to get high scores, but may not be as efficient as you think in day to day use. OR maybe you didn't read the part where it says 'thanks to so and so' on the OP of that rom, but most devs that make AOSP roms either say that its a modified version of cm7 or they credit the cm7 team.
7) most importantly, the team and people of cm7 are DOING THIS ON THEIR OWN TIME. its not like they HAVE to do it for YOU. they're doing it because they choose to and they would like to share it with you. but its also you the people that make them want to smack their heads on their desks because you're so damn ungreatful for their work. they will update when they can so stop flaming them and saying they don't update; people have lives outside of cm7 and their phones.
even if we don't get a FULLY working cm7 port, its not like they didn't try, believe me they are trying to get it to work, but its not like you could do a better job, could you?
STOP FLAMING cm7 and STOP ASKING FOR IT. PEOPLE HAVE LIVES.
okay i'm done. sorry i just got mad at all the people bashing it in the recent threads about cm7.

FaithCry said:
PEOPLE HAVE LIVES.
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They shouldn't have lives.
They are clearly here to service us.
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damn it.

I am in.
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in for...?

well said .

And why couldn't you just post this rant in the other two threads we already have open about cm7?
We do still have mods here, the flame police is not needed. Even if your right.
Sent from my Evo 3D

ricocollege said:
And why couldn't you just post this rant in the other two threads we already have open about cm7?
We do still have mods here, the flame police is not needed. Even if your right.
Sent from my Evo 3D
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Because it would get buried in all the meaningless bull**** post with the other important statements that's already there.
B00T M4NaG3R G4V3 M3 A TrU3 HyBr!D 3v0 *Showdown Rom/&\Hyperlite {AOSP}*

Thanx. I was looking for a way to waste my time. Ha for real tho if cm devs don't care enough to say something back to anti cm7ers why do u feel like its your job. Just let it go everybody has a right to there opinion what's right to me may not be right to you.
Waiting 3...2...1... Who's gonna put me in my place? Haha
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gmfeny said:
Thanx. I was looking for a way to waste my time. Ha for real tho if cm devs don't care enough to say something back to anti cm7ers why do u feel like its your job. Just let it go everybody has a right to there opinion what's right to me may not be right to you.
Waiting 3...2...1... Who's gonna put me in my place? Haha
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because its annoying and garbage that people post about that isn't really productive towards anything. and because there are other people that think the same way but just don't bother to voice it. and its not my job, it is just pissing me off how some people are so ungrateful for what others do for them, and so i decided i would post about it.

gmfeny said:
Thanx. I was looking for a way to waste my time. Ha for real tho if cm devs don't care enough to say something back to anti cm7ers why do u feel like its your job. Just let it go everybody has a right to there opinion what's right to me may not be right to you.
Waiting 3...2...1... Who's gonna put me in my place? Haha
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It's attitudes like this that make me have no interest in deving of any kind and makes me wonder why devs do what they do.
They owe you nothing.
Period.
Not ****.

And its people policing the threads that make the devs not want to come back here. If somebody is simply stating their opinion it shouldn't be a problem. But people attack others here for making opinions instead of agreeing to disagree.
I NEVER said I hate cm7 or I don't give a **** if it comes out. But honestly these threads are worse than the others. Really this topic is basically talking **** about **** that nobody cares about in other threads.
I'm not trying to offend anybody this is just my opinion. I would rather read threads in the EVO 3d section that have to do with the EVO 3d but hey that might be just me.
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gmfeny said:
And its people policing the threads that make the devs not want to come back here. If somebody is simply stating their opinion it shouldn't be a problem. But people attack others here for making opinions instead of agreeing to disagree.
I NEVER said I hate cm7 or I don't give a **** if it comes out. But honestly these threads are worse than the others. Really this topic is basically talking **** about **** that nobody cares about in other threads.
I'm not trying to offend anybody this is just my opinion. I would rather read threads in the EVO 3d section that have to do with the EVO 3d but hey that might be just me.
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There's a difference between an opinion and whining/attacking devs....which is what a lot of people are doing on here.
And no, threads like this one, defending devs, is not causing devs to not come back here.
That's a pretty crazy claim.

Haha the title reminds me of the guy that pleaded with ppl to leave britney spears alone. lol

That's funny, I don't care ya are
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Haha the title reminds me of the guy that pleaded with ppl to leave britney spears alone. lol
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nastystang05 said:
Haha the title reminds me of the guy that pleaded with ppl to leave britney spears alone. lol
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L3AVE CYANOGEN MOD ALONE!!!!!11

My 30 days is almost up, can I get an eta or what?!?!?

regardless of what rom whether its AOSP or not, people always whine, and i think thats what annoys me the most. devs and modders do things for other people because they're selfless and want to share what they know and what they've done. but those who whine and complain are selfish because they aren't getting what they want, when they want.
and i think its more that some people don't even bother to search, or even ask for that matter, and instead just flame and bash the peoples roms. its not like everyone who downloads roms says thanks either. especially since ever dev's rom post only has 20ish thanks when there are clearly more than 100x the amount of people downloading their rom.

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My 30 days is almost up, can I get an eta or what?!?!?
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hahahahaha

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VOTE! Which Firmware (Not > ROM)!

how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this... o.. maybe not...
44.44% would rather have one single GingerBread ROM over anything else, excellent!
Keep the vote's rolling, let's find out what people really want!
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delete this
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
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how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this...
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What?-....-........
Delete lame 'roms' - firmware stools
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
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hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
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...or not...
he`s half right about what he wrote.
obviously the ones and only that made a "almost fully" rom for ours x10, was/is Z, J and T.
but one interesting thing is. a few months ago, when i see this so called 2.1 roms never read anything about it. and they were called "rom".
i give that opinion on those times...nobody give a **** about that...
but if we go further, they don`t do any roms aswell. they pick some here, some there, mix all together and...hey, it worked...great.
the ONLY way we can have a TRUE custom rom is when we crack the f..k`in BL, untill now...
my understanding is:
this so called roms are...mod roms.
but thats just me
I think the Z J and trip are really developer.THX them
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
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Well I can understand your point of view, even if I don't share it. Giving the people possibilities to choose from isn't the worst thing. And by modding one "ROM" in many ways, a lot of heads think about solutions for bugs and problems. In that way it actually is in the name of progress
Regarding the word ROM: I think most xda users are used to have ROMs for their phones and since the different firmwares we have for the X10 behave like a ROM in most aspects, it would be more confusing to call them firmwares, even if it is more correct...
Too funny
Honestly, I really kicked a hornets nest here - haha - Wow!
It's not really about names, firmwares and roms, apples and oranges etc.. I'm just really perplexed by the sheer volume of unfinished projects some blatantly ripped without any credit to the authors and more than anything, the sheer uselessness of the majority.
It's great that people want to contribute something, so how about downloading the favorable 'rom' (if it makes you feel cool.. or whatever) and make your contribution and then ONE BETTER, instead of uploading the whole schamozzle of mish mash..
Just the mods' that matter? I.E; Changed the Framework-Res.apk and a few apps, then do what Sempeternal does and release an update.zip! - Include screen shots.. but the whole firmware for a theme.. seem's overkill..
Put this in context, not naming names here but I downloaded a GingerBread a while back and it had one single app.. aside from that it was a virgin clone of another guy's rom - with no credit or even value... and it's nearly every day I'm seeing someone pop up with another CM or something and it's actually.. distracting.
Personally I'm 150% behind the work of Z, J and Sempiternal (my favorite theme is the new HC) which looks awesome on any GB modified firmware, even on Eclair and Froyo.
That is what I'm talking about! - Semp really knows what time it is and releases amazing work, free of charge. Best of all across any flavour, without any nonsense! All killer - no filler
Ginger!
i would say gingerbread and a cyanogen brew (which J would start to cook up soon^^)
i mean, who doesn't want the latest version of the most powerful android rom?
Since this is a thread opened for discussion, allow me to do exactly that. The below is strictly my own opinion and not a rant and/or an attack aimed at anyone.
I'm extremely disappointed at the way things are moving in the X10 Dev section. There are dozens of unnecessary half cooked 'ROMs' that're of no practical use. The blind self-righteous and immature dev worshipping present in the thread is shockingly mind numbing. Ask questions, even valid ones, and you're swarmed by these retarded sheep who respond back with insults and personal digs. One user even told me to go buy another X10 when I supported another user who posted a question for the Dev. about the the newer basebands, especially since the Dev himself mentioned that the newer baseband support may [or may not] come. Regardless, the question was for the Dev. and not the sheep.
Just when I feel consoled read something that hints at *some* progress being made with the current firmware, I find myself reading another post, after a while, which takes on a completely different direction. The firmware suddenly gets dropped in favor of a newer/<some popular ROM> which, then, necessitates the Dev. to re-engage himself with the long list of functions and features that aren't working. In essence it means, we're back to ground zero. Why is that necessary? It's a fact that we aren't going to see a 100% functional port because of the locked bootloader - so wouldn't it make more sense to concentrate on just 1 firmware and make it as perfect as possible, with the omission of things that wouldn't be working due to the locked down bootloader?
I sincerely think we need just *2* FIRMWARE threads in the Dev. area - one for 2.3.x and one for 2.2.x. The CM additions can be easily had by installing the CM Settings app, the themes etc. on top of whichever edition one chooses. There's no need to have a complete 'ROM' uploaded with the same critical and few non critical issues.
I should reiterate, the above is simply my own opinion and is in no way a rant or an attack on anyone.
Yes too many rom. Devs should work together to make a perfect room than every dev make their own rom better.
There are developers... and chefs... devs develop the software. Cooks or chefs take ingredients or parts of software and mix or cook them. If you have been a long member of xda you would know that this has always been how it is for EVERY phone that is on this site... but more so this thread propably should be moved to a different section.
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It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
People on here seem to have the mistaken impression that if devs came together we would have a perfect rom instead of several roms that have bugs... That is not the case. We would just have less choice, the bugs would still remain, things like the camcorder and camera issues don't just get fixed overnight. It's nice to see peoples own twist on things, sad to see some people don't appreciate this..
cobrato said:
It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
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Agreed with u...
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I personally would like the developers and the site to do the following.
1. Sticky the First Rom post from each guy, and only allow him to update it and a second post.
2. All comments, questions regarding it should be in a separate thread of the same title appended with [Discussion], which should be culled (or have a strike through put the heading) from the system the moment the dev releases a new version.
I for one, can not go through hundreds or thousands of posts most of which are not relevant any longer to the current version of the firmware/baseband whatever update. IT's very intimidating, and onerous on the reader- even professional IT people. I can't imagine what someone from a non-technical bent sent here by someone - "Hey you can get an update for that at XDA!" thinks when they encounter some of these 2,000+ plus postings.
The developers should take a bit of responsibility and update the first or second posts with any new issues that crop up from the discussions. You should not have to read 50 posts in to a thread to find out that there is a step missing in the install or a new bug has been confirmed. I've burned two X10's myself due to bugs and unclear instructions that were later corrected.
Meanwhile, I'm happy to support with money these guys, even though I have not actually put a 'custom' firmware onto any of my phones. I have put/used the tools that have been provided to do other things like JIT and rooting/updating SE firmware. I am looking forward to seeing a fully functional update to give me some of the things that are not available in 2.1 so I can get better applications. I think that not having some items like Hotspot, Tether and even 16m color on the display which require kernel updates are not that important since tether/hotspot can be added via applications in the market.
I don't think there can be a better example of why we don't need random people come up with ROMs [they're firmwares, NOT ROMs]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11669817&postcount=97
In that thread, the main issue is not about giving or not giving credits, it's about calling oneself a 'Chef' and delivering half baked results which ultimately causes grief when users don't receive solutions to their legitimate queries/firmware related problems.

HTC Sense UI Porting : Great Progress !!!

Good Evening All
I know this might be discussed before in few threads but the reason I'm posting this thread is to have the answers from the developers themselves about the difficulties they're facing to port Sense UI ( 4.0 for example ) to our beloved SGS 2 and why their is no attempt to do it.
Updates 24-05-2012
Developers are going crazy
check these websites:-
http://www.sense4all.nazuka.net/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678663
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533931
I believe we have a great code reverse engineers as well as great kernel developers and plenty of resources out there ,,, what we are waiting for ?!!
Please devs kindly give it a try and help us,,,,
Updates 16-05-2012 by Quebe2 and Coenjte44 big thanks to them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657050
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Swamp goblin a great developer is working in the shadows to create an amazing HTC sense based SGS II ROM !!!!
Now in Nexus S development thread, two developers namely Qube2 and swamp goblin are working so hard to port Sense 4.0 !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502895
Qube2 did successfully port Sense 2.1 to Nexus S !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490709
Mkalter from SGS 1 thread is trying his best to port to SGS !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1593939
I believe that our SGS II is the most device world wildly used. Also it has better hardware and better developer community.
What I need is the developers' comments, not only the ones who are interested on Sense UI but also the ones who are not but they have their theories in which they explain why porting Sense UI is difficult, non achievable or waste of time.
Thanx
Sorry for the bad grammer. English isn't really my native language.
P.S. For users like me, respectfully don't flood this thread with posts that won't answer my question in details ( like; if you want sense UI buy HTC device !! ). I need the developers to kindly gather here and post their opinions, experiences and may be their pre-alphas
My Question was moved to Q/A subforum ,, I did post it in general subforum intentionally because of it is really hot area and it may attract developers. I hope it won't be got lost here. Thanx Crachel
To be honest, most developers don't browse around here (as they are busy with their own thing)... but testing Sense UI myself on several phones.. it's laggy and a resource hog. Sure it looks nice, but it's not better than a few others (especially since ICS)- and most often people want things to be more speedy.
Perhaps a hardcore developer will come and give you more details on what they like or don't like about it. Good luck.
PS
Apex launcher fast and smooth
Most of the users here want stock as possible. I dont know why. I study now android development and yes i want Sense UI to at my Phone because i used HTC HD2 with RafDroids HD revolution it had sense. So give a lil bit at any day at any time there will be a sense SGS 2... But Stock ICS with GO Launcher rocks too :-D
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Because it's crap & unnecessary, as Cyberboob more politely intimated than I did.
I think it's down to purely pragmatic reasons.
Say a dev owns a HTC device. What's more practical for him/her (never know, female devs could exist..)? Modify Sense on a phone he/she owns, or decide that TouchWiz is great and spend hours trying to port that instead?
Ergo the same holds true for devs whom own the SGS2.
As cyberboob said, you're unlikely to see any devs on this subforum, and in my opinion they don't need to explain or justify any decision they make anyway - their work, their choice. It's not a democracy here, and that's the way it should be.
And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...
And much more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
I know that sense is just like any other UI out there but I think weather, twitter and Facebook implementation as well as the animations of HTC sense are far better than go , apex and other UI launchers.
Now being laggy or buggy is something I really wanna wait to comment on but first we wanna test it.
I'm resisting to buy HTC one X and to give up on my SGS II because I believe in that our developers are capable to create a powerful and better performing android OS on SGS II that with HTC sense UI would be better than any HTC device.
Back to main subject we need developer's opinion in porting HTC sense UI based roms to our SGS II.
I wish moderators here would kindly move this thread to any subforum in which devs are more likely to see and comment or may be to contribute to this subject.
Thanx all for replying.
There was a dev thread...it got closed due to spam posts
[PROJECT] [PORT] HTC Sense UI 3.0 [ WORK IN PROGRESS ]
Hahaha I did.
Congrats on the 1000th mate *applauds*
B3311 said:
And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...
And much more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
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The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.
It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.
Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
frankimm said:
The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.
It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.
Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
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Yeah I'll surely donate but we need somebody who actually start porting it. Not only me you will see a bunch of people who are willing/will donate to this project.
Peace.
In my opinion sense 3 is ugly and Sense 4 isn't any diffrent from fror exsample go launcher
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@Makrilli.
You haven't tried it, I believe
Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.
peace.
Oweida said:
@Makrilli.
You haven't tried it, I believe
Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.
peace.
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Judged by the number of Sense threads two points are plain one HTC users want it on SGS2 and two nearly a year down the line and it must be to difficult to port .
Which points to the simple fact that SGS2 devs dont want to port it or have found to many stumbling blocks to make it worth while .Probably the later is the big reason why no sense .
jje
Good day everybody
No developers yet !!
Obviously, this subform has less developer activity
Peace
Plenty of devs read Q&A.
It's a crap idea as has already been said Think about it. You're a dev...you have a job, a family, other interests. You have a choice say, between developing/maintaining something like a kernel or a rom (or an app even) which hundreds/thousands/tens of thousands of people will appreciate, use & offer feedback on, which will be an ongoing thing...
Or you port a UI from another device to please a couple of dozen fanboys of said different device which is both ugly (just my opinion) & consumes a crapload of device resources/isn't 'efficient'.
I know what I'd be doing.
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Good day everybody
No developers yet !!
Obviously, this subform has less developer activity
Peace
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Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.
To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.
Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??
To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.
Give it up.
B3311 said:
Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.
To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.
Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??
To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.
Give it up.
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I really feel sad about this. The good thing is HTC has released it's miracle HTC one X which has both powerful hardware and amazing software and may be I will buy it
Thanx All for replying.
Peace
Please Forum moderator move this thread to the discussion sub forum ,,,,
Peace
Please administrators/moderators move this topic to general forum , maybe it will get somebody's attention.
yes most the sgs2 users need sense 4 on their sgs2 i also want to see sense 4 on my sgs2

For the love of all things that are good!!!!

I have a question that I do not see answered anywhere in the EVO 3D cdma forums anywhere so I'll ask...
FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD.....
WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STOP MAKING THE EXACT SAME F'ING ROM????????
It's in the right forum, I checked. There is NO need for 5 of the same damn rom's with the tiniest tweaks done to someone elses ROM that does not constitute a "new" ROM.
Those of you who have been thinking the same thing I have been can Thank me for speaking your mind for you.
Have a nice day.
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I have a question that I do not see answered anywhere in the EVO 3D cdma forums anywhere so I'll ask...
FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD.....
WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STOP MAKING THE EXACT SAME F'ING ROM????????
It's in the right forum, I checked. There is NO need for 5 of the same damn rom's with the tiniest tweaks done to someone elses ROM that does not constitute a "new" ROM.
Those of you who have been thinking the same thing I have been can Thank me for speaking your mind for you.
Have a nice day.
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....... I will give you an answer that you may seek... NO I don't think they will.. They are not the same ROMs FRIEND... Each one has certain things that make them different otherwise the MODs on this site would not allow them to be posted. ATM the new base 2.89 has been released and they are just now sinking their teeth into it. If you want something completely different- DO IT YOURSELF SIR. These guys are doing all of US a favor and taking their precious time outside of work in order to satisfy people like you and I by making software that has not been dictated and made it readily available for the public. I don't do it because I don't have time to create one I want all to myself. They create it in the sense that THEY WANT- they simply allow us to give input on their creations and tweak it according to their APPRECIATIVE fellow members. They don't HAVE to do it but they DO. Be grateful you're not stuck with STOCK. otherwise do it yourself and stop complaining. Not trying to troll, I'm just fed up with inconsiderate degenerates not appreciating what these guys and gals do for all of us. just my $00.02, you don't have to like it.
The reason the ROMs are similar is because when one ROM incorporates a cool feature, the dev will usually share it with other devs who want it.
Now, what would be cool is one ROM that all the devs worked on together. It would be epic. Or a big jumbled mess. Never mind.
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....... I will give you an answer that you may seek... NO I don't think they will.. They are not the same ROMs FRIEND... Each one has certain things that make them different otherwise the MODs on this site would not allow them to be posted. ATM the new base 2.89 has been released and they are just now sinking their teeth into it. If you want something completely different- DO IT YOURSELF SIR. These guys are doing all of US a favor and taking their precious time outside of work in order to satisfy people like you and I by making software that has not been dictated and made it readily available for the public. I don't do it because I don't have time to create one I want all to myself. They create it in the sense that THEY WANT- they simply allow us to give input on their creations and tweak it according to their APPRECIATIVE fellow members. They don't HAVE to do it but they DO. Be grateful you're not stuck with STOCK. otherwise do it yourself and stop complaining. Not trying to troll, I'm just fed up with inconsiderate degenerates not appreciating what these guys and gals do for all of us. just my $00.02, you don't have to like it.
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Taking someone elses ROM and and changing something is NOT making a new rom when it's just full of Tweaks. As for your smartass remark about degenerates not appreciating what "these guys do" just shows how much of a ****ing prick you are. First off just because someone posts a "new rom" doesn't make it some "new ROM" I just like you could make rom's and used to on Rootz Wiki and here long ago, so shut your ****ing rude mouth. I don't need you making a suggestion I am some kid who's making an inconsiderate remark, it's douches like you who think that the same ole **** over and over and over and over being introduced as a "new rom" is something new when it fact it does nothing but clutter all the forums. Get a clue and next time show some class you punk kid.
When someone uses a ROM as the base to making their ROM that's one thing, but when these stupid kids on here, which XDA seems to be full of nothing but now, just takes someone elses rom and adds colors, and stupid crap like that, that does NOT make it a "new rom". Perhaps you should learn a thing or two about making custom ROM's.
All roms are verified to be unique , no kanging is allowed, all i can say is make your own rom and see how long, time consuming and involved it is, until then do not insult developers or their work
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quickfixguru said:
I have a question that I do not see answered anywhere in the EVO 3D cdma forums anywhere so I'll ask...
FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD.....
WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STOP MAKING THE EXACT SAME F'ING ROM????????
It's in the right forum, I checked. There is NO need for 5 of the same damn rom's with the tiniest tweaks done to someone elses ROM that does not constitute a "new" ROM.
Those of you who have been thinking the same thing I have been can Thank me for speaking your mind for you.
Have a nice day.
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Lol umadbro??
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quickfixguru said:
Taking someone elses ROM and and changing something is NOT making a new rom when it's just full of Tweaks. As for your smartass remark about degenerates not appreciating what "these guys do" just shows how much of a ****ing prick you are. First off just because someone posts a "new rom" doesn't make it some "new ROM" I just like you could make rom's and used to on Rootz Wiki and here long ago, so shut your ****ing rude mouth. I don't need you making a suggestion I am some kid who's making an inconsiderate remark, it's douches like you who think that the same ole **** over and over and over and over being introduced as a "new rom" is something new when it fact it does nothing but clutter all the forums. Get a clue and next time show some class you punk kid.
When someone uses a ROM as the base to making their ROM that's one thing, but when these stupid kids on here, which XDA seems to be full of nothing but now, just takes someone elses rom and adds colors, and stupid crap like that, that does NOT make it a "new rom". Perhaps you should learn a thing or two about making custom ROM's.
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LOCKED
Next time you want to create a thread like this I recommend you think to yourself...what can I actually do to contribute instead of complain. This is a site for developers not complainers. Sorry you are unhappy. Get over it and enjoy your free rom that someone worked on for hours. you are lucky that I dont infract everyone in this thread and delete the thread but instead im gonna leave it all here for others to look at and view the ignorance and why zero tolerance exists.

And another one's gone

Looks like the children at xda have run off another dev, Nils is gone. I'll be glad when I can get rid of this phone, I'm so tired of all the rudeness and childishness.
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Looks like the children at xda have run off another dev, Nils is gone. I'll be glad when I can get rid of this phone, I'm so tired of all the rudeness and childishness.
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what the **** are you talking about nils didn't leave because of the community, he left because there was no interest in rooms based off stock sense.
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nils is gone?!?! WHYYYYY
Says you. I am interested in ROMs that work...not hacks. I also apparently am one of the few that like using Sense ROMs. Nils delivered on that one. I was disappointed tonight when I read his post and realized his thread was locked/closed.
just saw it. quite upsetting; nils is the man. his work was always quality stuff. after being away dealing wtih the nexus and s3, and then coming back to the rezound development section, all i can say is holy balls. wtf is going on there? seriously, there's like 238948923 new threads of these noname "developers" releasing stock roms based on the OTA....there's like 50 different versions of the same thing. what the hell? annoying.
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just saw it. quite upsetting; nils is the man. his work was always quality stuff. after being away dealing wtih the nexus and s3, and then coming back to the rezound development section, all i can say is holy balls. wtf is going on there? seriously, there's like 238948923 new threads of these noname "developers" releasing stock roms based on the OTA....there's like 50 different versions of the same thing. what the hell? annoying.
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maybe ill release one too
This is a truly a sad day for the Rezound.
I think Nils mistook a lack of downloads for satisfaction with what he has already achieved.
I have been running his Sense 4 v2.6 for several weeks. It's so good as is, but I think many of us were waiting to download his next update.
Nils, If activity has been down, it's only because we love what you've already done, and we're enjoying your Rom as is.
Many want to try AOSP and CM9 and all that, and that needs to be ok. But many of us LOVE Sense, just like you, Nils. And we love what you have brought to the Rezound.
If you need to go, I get it. But please don't think you are unloved here. This place will be lonely without you. Thank you for everything you've done for this community.
Please keep us posted if you have a change of heart, or move on to a different platform. Take care, sir. And thank you again for all you've done.
Scott
**** this I'm going home!!
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This is sad. I ran several of nilsp Roms. Too bad that he is leaving. His Roms were always as close to bug free as any custom ROM I've ever used. Only changed to try new ones.
He will be missed.
BBEgo said:
This is a truly a sad day for the Rezound.
I think Nils mistook a lack of downloads for satisfaction with what he has already achieved.
I have been running his Sense 4 v2.6 for several weeks. It's so good as is, but I think many of us were waiting to download his next update.
Nils, If activity has been down, it's only because we love what you've already done, and we're enjoying your Rom as is.
Many want to try AOSP and CM9 and all that, and that needs to be ok. But many of us LOVE Sense, just like you, Nils. And we love what you have brought to the Rezound.
If you need to go, I get it. But please don't think you are unloved here. This place will be lonely without you. Thank you for everything you've done for this community.
Please keep us posted if you have a change of heart, or move on to a different platform. Take care, sir. And thank you again for all you've done.
Scott
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Well said.
I, too, was anxiously awaiting an update to an already great ROM. There are only two Sense 4 ROM that work reliably with all the functions that I need to work and that don't feel "dated", Business Sense and OnE XxX. I know many people are charmed by the snake but I've seen bug reports in that thread that I haven't seen or experienced in the other two. In fairness, maybe I should try it before I judge it but since I've been running Nils ROM I've haven't felt compelled to try anything else.
You think he left because of no activity in his threads? Read his posts more closely, I don't think that is the whole story.
As far as no activity, read the other threads. Most posts are because this or that doesn't work. You don't see as much of that here because people just download it and go. Then his thread gets buried because of the sudden proliferation of ROMs on the new leak and the recent developments in ASOP and that makes it worse. There seem to be quite a few dev wannabes in here now who are enjoying a little bit of attention. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that there are new people getting into ROM building and I know all of them have much more experience and expertise than I do. However, some of them need to learn some manners and have some respect for the experienced devs (maybe it's not so much the new devs as it is their fan base).
Just an opinion from some one watching from the sidelines.
BBEgo said:
This is a truly a sad day for the Rezound.
I think Nils mistook a lack of downloads for satisfaction with what he has already achieved.
I have been running his Sense 4 v2.6 for several weeks. It's so good as is, but I think many of us were waiting to download his next update.
Nils, If activity has been down, it's only because we love what you've already done, and we're enjoying your Rom as is.
Many want to try AOSP and CM9 and all that, and that needs to be ok. But many of us LOVE Sense, just like you, Nils. And we love what you have brought to the Rezound.
If you need to go, I get it. But please don't think you are unloved here. This place will be lonely without you. Thank you for everything you've done for this community.
Please keep us posted if you have a change of heart, or move on to a different platform. Take care, sir. And thank you again for all you've done.
Scott
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AGREED!
I ran both of his ROMS and although I'm not running one of them now, I was EAGERLY awaiting his next release for either one of his versions and would have switched back in a heartbeat. His work is always rock solid and he is one of the most responsive developers out here. Nils, as a regular subscriber I wanted to to say THANKS again for your hard work. Hope to see you soon!
He states that there are more than enough developers, and lack of interest in his roms, while also stating that certain devs were not thanking him for his mods. I think your claim of, oh i am so tired of the childishness and rudeness is bogus and you should be flamed for starting a thread like this. If you are gonna be mad at anyone be mad at the devs who did not thank him. If you want to cry publicly you have the right to do so but understand your broad statement should be more focused on those who did not thank him instead of people being childish.
Isn't it funny how just a few months ago the complaint(s) were about a lack of devs, and now you can't go through the 1st page in the dev section without tripping over a new ROM. Not saying it's bad, good, or other; just an observation. I did not run NilsP's roms but I didn't have to, to know they were solid, with a reputation like he had. It sucks when any established dev leaves.
Thanks for all your work, Nils.
RoyHinkley said:
Well said.
I, too, was anxiously awaiting an update to an already great ROM. There are only two Sense 4 ROM that work reliably with all the functions that I need to work and that don't feel "dated", Business Sense and OnE XxX. I know many people are charmed by the snake but I've seen bug reports in that thread that I haven't seen or experienced in the other two. In fairness, maybe I should try it before I judge it but since I've been running Nils ROM I've haven't felt compelled to try anything else.
You think he left because of no activity in his threads? Read his posts more closely, I don't think that is the whole story.
As far as no activity, read the other threads. Most posts are because this or that doesn't work. You don't see as much of that here because people just download it and go. Then his thread gets buried because of the sudden proliferation of ROMs on the new leak and the recent developments in ASOP and that makes it worse. There seem to be quite a few dev wannabes in here now who are enjoying a little bit of attention. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that there are new people getting into ROM building and I know all of them have much more experience and expertise than I do. However, some of them need to learn some manners and have some respect for the experienced devs (maybe it's not so much the new devs as it is their fan base).
Just an opinion from some one watching from the sidelines.
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Let's not trash the "snake" without ever trying it, I've been running it for weeks with ZERO problems, it's an amazing ROM
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He states that there are more than enough developers, and lack of interest in his roms, while also stating that certain devs were not thanking him for his mods. I think your claim of, oh i am so tired of the childishness and rudeness is bogus and you should be flamed for starting a thread like this. If you are gonna be mad at anyone be mad at the devs who did not thank him. If you want to cry publicly you have the right to do so but understand your broad statement should be more focused on those who did not thank him instead of people being childish.
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If I offended you, I apologize. Yes, it is a broad statement based on what I've read in many posts in many threads on xda, especially the Rezound section, not just on Nils leaving. People using his work and not even acknowledging him is a part, and I think a big part, of what I'm talking about. There's not much cordiality left in these forums, people are too quick to dismiss and demean (yes, I think that is childish and rude as is not thanking some one when using their work). Look at what happened to Micromod when he posted his leaked OTA.
Did I just want to rant a little? As some one who reads much but posts very little, yes I did. Am I upset? I wouldn't say I'm upset. In the grand scheme of things this is more of just a mild annoyance.
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Let's not trash the "snake" without ever trying it, I've been running it for weeks with ZERO problems, it's an amazing ROM
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I didn't mean to trash ViperROM, I was just saying I read about bugs that I didn't have in the other two. From what I've read it also has more features than the other two.
And nils was one of the only "cool"] ones. Smh.
Synergized GS3
RoyHinkley said:
If I offended you, I apologize. Yes, it is a broad statement based on what I've read in many posts in many threads on xda, especially the Rezound section, not just on Nils leaving. People using his work and not even acknowledging him is a part, and I think a big part, of what I'm talking about. There's not much cordiality left in these forums, people are too quick to dismiss and demean (yes, I think that is childish and rude as is not thanking some one when using their work). Look at what happened to Micromod when he posted his leaked OTA.
Did I just want to rant a little? As some one who reads much but posts very little, yes I did. Am I upset? I wouldn't say I'm upset. In the grand scheme of things this is more of just a mild annoyance.
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I am not debating that childishness occurs, I am just stating that there is no evidence from what I can find that, that's why he left. He states that devs were not thanking him for his work. I have always admired NILS as he is one of the most amazing devs I have ever come across. I too would be pissed if people couldnt do something as simple as give me credit for my work that I had put hours, days and weeks into it. Am I sad to see him leave, hell yes. I had talked to NILS way back in the day when I first got my Rezound and he is as nice as they come. He will be missed more than he knows.
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Isn't it funny how just a few months ago the complaint(s) were about a lack of devs, and now you can't go through the 1st page in the dev section without tripping over a new ROM. Not saying it's bad, good, or other; just an observation. I did not run NilsP's roms but I didn't have to, to know they were solid, with a reputation like he had. It sucks when any established dev leaves.
Thanks for all your work, Nils.
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I think having new devs is great, it just seems that some of the established devs aren't being treated with the respect they deserve. I may be way off base here - it could just be the natural progression of the developement community. This is just my opinion on what I've observed and I don't see everything and I don't know what goes on in private.
All I should have said is Nils, I wish you the best but I hope you change your mind and come back. There are plenty of people here who appreciate and respect your work.
RoyHinkley said:
I think having new devs is great, it just seems that some of the established devs aren't being treated with the respect they deserve. I may be way off base here - it could just be the natural progression of the developement community. This is just my opinion on what I've observed and I don't see everything and I don't know what goes on in private.
All I should have said is Nils, I wish you the best but I hope you change your mind and come back. There are plenty of people here who appreciate and respect your work.
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Ooc, what respect should they be getting differently? Everyone appreciates and clicks thanks etc. And they became xda rock gods. Then some moved on and became humble and nice to new phones.. Then the cycle repeats. Not starting anything, just genuinely curious.
Synergized GS3

Galaxy J5 is bleeding.

Our phone's forum is BLEEDING.
You may wonder, why? Our developers are getting suspended, our ROM's are getting closed, our kernels has been removed, And our forum is starting to burn.
First of all i wanna talk about Zonik and his great work...
As you know he made a CYANOGENMOD 13 port to our sweet phones. Oh and also he made PBS which i am running as a daily driver.
And guess what? They had a kernel made by DJ_Steve!
And guess what? It was unstable? It was bricking phones? NO!
IT WAS NON-GPL compliant!!
And after they found out that the kernel was non-GPL compliant, they had to close the thread.
Ok the kernel was closed and links were removed...
End?
Nope.
Soon one great guy named @#Henkate found that the PBS and Cyanogenmod 13 IS USING THAT KERNEL.
He instantly reported the thread i guess and soon the mods were informed...
And guess what...
They closed the threads. They closed the ROM's that have been popular. PBS now has over 45,000+ views and CyanogenMod 13 has got over 50,000+VIEWS..
And now let's talk about Performance boost speed (PBS)
It is the current fastest Galaxy J5 ROM!!
With so many tweaks, even i am running it as a daily driver...
And who needs to ruin it? Mods and one guy who is acting like a mod! Except you @sawdoctor you are the best
In PBS the developer is trying to max the speed out of this device!
And the DJ_Steve's kernel is making that ROM fast!
Again, guy who is acting like a mod needs to report that ROM and inform all the moderators.
And Zonik is the great man who tries to make our device faster and even better!
He even wanted to help me to boost my ROM what i wanted to create, but in the end i just didn't want to do it because i knew that PBS is the best modified stock ROM in the moment..
(Who doesn't believe me i can send screenshots of our chat in facebook :l)
I am just going insane!
I can't take this!
I am quitting XDA for a while.. I can't do anything if the great stuff is removed...
I am just protesting for this!
Thanks to everyone for being here and making our device XDA supported. I greatly appreciate that.
I'm out.
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Be gone!
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Be gone!
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I am sorry to say this but i think u should not be posting anything here or any other thread on J5 forums in which u r mentioned or quoted. Your reply will cause more anger and rage to flow across this forums because we are in such a situation. I hope u understand what i am trying to say. :good:
KingWilliams said:
I am sorry to say this but i think u should not be posting anything here or any other thread on J5 forums in which u r mentioned or quoted. Your reply will cause more anger and rage to flow across this forums because we are in such a situation. I hope u understand what i am trying to say. :good:
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I think your message was meant to OP.
You are the ones who are continuing this nonsense.
Telepracity said:
Our phone's forum is BLEEDING.
You may wonder, why? Our developers are getting suspended, our ROM's are getting closed, our kernels has been removed, And our forum is starting to burn.
First of all i wanna talk about Zonik and his great work...
As you know he made a CYANOGENMOD 13 port to our sweet phones. Oh and also he made PBS which i am running as a daily driver.
And guess what? They had a kernel made by DJ_Steve!
And guess what? It was unstable? It was bricking phones? NO!
IT WAS NON-GPL compliant!!
And after they found out that the kernel was non-GPL compliant, they had to close the thread.
Ok the kernel was closed and links were removed...
End?
Nope.
Soon one great guy named @#Henkate found that the PBS and Cyanogenmod 13 IS USING THAT KERNEL.
He instantly reported the thread i guess and soon the mods were informed...
And guess what...
They closed the threads. They closed the ROM's that have been popular. PBS now has over 45,000+ views and CyanogenMod 13 has got over 50,000+VIEWS..
And now let's talk about Performance boost speed (PBS)
It is the current fastest Galaxy J5 ROM!!
With so many tweaks, even i am running it as a daily driver...
And who needs to ruin it? Mods and one guy who is acting like a mod! Except you @sawdoctor you are the best
In PBS the developer is trying to max the speed out of this device!
And the DJ_Steve's kernel is making that ROM fast!
Again, guy who is acting like a mod needs to report that ROM and inform all the moderators.
And Zonik is the great man who tries to make our device faster and even better!
He even wanted to help me to boost my ROM what i wanted to create, but in the end i just didn't want to do it because i knew that PBS is the best modified stock ROM in the moment..
(Who doesn't believe me i can send screenshots of our chat in facebook :l)
I am just going insane!
I can't take this!
I am quitting XDA for a while.. I can't do anything if the great stuff is removed...
I am just protesting for this!
Thanks to everyone for being here and making our device XDA supported. I greatly appreciate that.
I am out
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johnhux7 said:
Well said mate, no need to go telling tails it wasn't hurting anybody.
I too am using zoniks PBS ROM and I love it it's the best rom I have used by a long way and I'm gutted not just for us using these ROMs but for the guys making them.
A quick message could have saved all this.
I'm gutted
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I understand your concern my friends. You tell me what can we do now? Nothing. We cant undo the things which has happened. If there is one thing we can do is to stay calm and wait until a new rom perhaps is released by some developer who are on this forum ( it can be me as well). So i kindly request u all wonderful guys out there not to create any further threads like these.
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#Henkate, dont create further problems over here. I am trying to cool down things indirectly i am trying to get people off ur back. So i think u should keep quite and "keep the threads clean" .
KingWilliams said:
I understand your concern my friends. You tell me what can we do now? Nothing. We cant undo the things which has happened. If there is one thing we can do is to stay calm and wait until a new rom perhaps is released by some developer who are on this forum ( it can be me as well). So i kindly request u all wonderful guys out there not to create any further threads like these.
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#Henkate, dont create further problems over here. I am trying to cool down things indirectly i am trying to get people off ur back. So i think u should keep quite and "keep the threads clean" .
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OK mate, out of respect for you and all developers I will stop taking and adding to threads and will wait see.
I have a new phone as from Tuesday but will be keeping this J5 for testing new ROMs.
To be clear I'm stopping out of respect for the developers and for XDA and this forum.
Let's all stop and move on.
Henkate. I will still discuss anything via PM with you but I too think you need to stop posting for a while or your gonna keep winding people up just by your presence. Alot of people are very angry
Let's hope that some developers will use or J5 forum.
King William's. I hope your exams go well but I hope that you come back.
John
Sent from my j5nltexx using XDA Labs
Thread closed
This really is a waste of time . Do J5 users think they are special and exempt from xda rules ? It's quite simple if devs follow the same rules as EVERY OTHER device developers do then there will be no more drama. I mean is it really that hard for a kernel dev to publish his sources ? we only need a tarball for gpl rules .
If you want to blame anyone blame Linus Torvalds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds
He is the one who licensed the linux kernel under gpl

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