Hi All,
Today Sony S has been released in some parts of the world and by 17th Sep it will be available in UK, US & Japan.
Those who owns this tablet now, please share your views, pros & cons.
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Note: We are waiting for Sony Tablet S thread, requested XDA as well, but donno when it will be added, so I have created one here.
xperiax10.awesome said:
Note: We are waiting for Sony Tablet S thread, requested XDA as well, but donno when it will be added, so I have created one here.
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It's a forum it needs not a thread, or now multiple threads in a different section. I don't get why it takes so long to create new forums for new devices.
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I don't get why it takes so long to create new forums for new devices.
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Still Charging
UPS just dropped my off from Amazon. It is charging up now and I will try to post a review soon.
I received mine yesterday, and played around with it a little bit. It's my first Android device, so I don't have much to compare it to, or have any experience with what apps to try out.
Quick impressions of the unique features of the tablet:
Crash Bandicoot works well (I was under the impression that the control were bad since all of the videos I have seen online, the person playing always drops down the first hole, or gets hit by the first crab). But, the game seems to always stay in the background after minimizing it; quick to restart, but a bit annoying. I'm hoping for more PS games soon.
Pinball Heroes also works well, and can be played both in portrait and landscape. It is also touched enabled instead of using PSP controls. I believe there were around 7 tables, which is nice.
I set up the IR Remote Control feature on the Samsung TV quite easily, and it worked without a problem. The performance is pretty good as well; I will have to try registering more devices around the house.
The Video and Music Unlimited services were not up yet, so I couldn't try it.
I have the Canadian version, and it looks like it does not come with the Chumby app; too bad.
For battery life, I have been using it for ~2hours and idle for ~8hours (according to the Android stats), and it is at ~60%. So, not great; but I'll wait for a few more charges to see how the battery life is.
Did not try out the DLNA feature, or the Sony Reader store yet.
I tried putting an SD card from my Sony Camera into the Tablet, and it was able to read it fine. Using the file transfer app, I can open pictures on the SD card without transferring it over to the tablet first (not sure about Videos though). So, a good feature for photographers that want to preview their photos with a bigger display on the go.
I'm not a fan of the wedge design. I still think the tablet is kinda heavy no matter how I hold it, so the wedge design does nothing for me except increase it's size. Most reviews/previews do say it is a good design, so I might be in the minority on this.
Ok, that's it for now. I might return with new impressions in a few, or I might just lurk around and see what others think of it. Hopefully, we get our own forum soon!!
Design
Initially I was a bit concerned that Sony had made their tablet a different shape just for the sake of being different, but having had a good play with it, it has become apparent that it was designed with both form and function in mind.
The curved 'folded magazine' design feels right when reading content in portrait view which is great for reading books and using Apps like Pulse. The textured back also enables you to grip the device easier without fear of letting it slip from your hand.
Some reviews have said it feels a bit cheap, I wouldn't use the word cheap, they have obviously tried to use lightweight materials (plastic) to keep it easy to handle for long periods. Despite this it still feels like a solid piece of kit.
Sony Software
I am a bit of an Android purist, I usually don't like it when companies put a load of crap of their own on. Luckily the user interface is largely untouched, only a few minor additions that some people will probably find useful. They have done a good job with extending the default media apps though.
The music app is really sexy, I love a good interface that utilises the album art. This is probably one of the best examples. The only issue I had was once I got an error message after dropping some music files on to the device saying "Unable to update database" or something, but a reboot sorted that.
The reader app is great, I have a load of epub files in my Dropbox, I just downloaded them and they appeared straight away in the library.
Video looks great, but as with a lot of these kind of devices codec support is a bit limited out the box. I was able to play pretty much every media file type I wanted (smoothly) once I installed RockPlayer and played them through that, worth doing if you can't be bothered re-encoding.
The social feed app is a good idea, but ultimately flawed (e.g. not being able to view comments on a facebook post). I prefer to look at Facebook, Twitter, Google+ in their respective apps. I guess for a quick overview of what is happening it might be adequate.
The standout inclusion is definitely the remote control app. I set up my Sky box, my Sony AV receiver, and my Samsung TV within about 5 minutes and now all are available from one place. Skipping between channels on sky by swiping the screen feels very natural, the novelty might wear off eventually, but not having to fumble for 3 separate remotes in the dark to switch on all 3 devices will be awesome
Apps Compatibility / Performance
A lot has been said in the past about the lack of apps for Honeycomb, to be honest I don't know what people are on about, every app I have tried seems to OK. Some you can tell aren't yet optimised for tablets (e.g. Facebook) but they still look pretty nice.
Most games I tried (Cut The Rope, Riptide HD, Samurai II) all look great on the big screen, and run smoothly. I haven't tried any games with a controller yet, but the size of the tablet is better for most of these games than on a phone.
I was concerned that games not designed for screen this size might be a bit crap or not run at all, but Kairosoft games (e.g. Game Dev Story, Grand Prix Story) actually benefit from the big screen (on my Galaxy S2 sometimes my fat fingers click the wrong things ).
My favorite Apps for this so far (only about 9 hours of time with it ) are Pulse and Youtube, both use the screen really well, I will be spending hours on those two in the coming weeks and months.
Generally the performance has been slick, not noticed any lag until I went on a site with quite a lot of flash on, then it did slow a bit. By default Flash is always on, but if you go to browser settings->Advanced->Enable Plugins you can set it to on-demand, which I think might allow you to say when an element should load.
Closing Comments
I was torn between this and the Samsung 10.1, but I think I have definitely made the right choice.
Wishlist
So far so good, but hopefully Sony will keep improving the device with software updates (like they do with the PS3 ). I would like to see..
Direct playback from SD card (currently you have to copy files to the build it storage using an app on the device).
Tighter PS3 integration, it would be great to use it as a remote play screen for the PS3. Also it would be cool to use the PS3 as a device to 'throw' content to (I will have to test again that this is not already there).
Oh and I hope that where possible PS1 games I buy on PSN will be usable on this device if they are released as PS Suite games (I hate having to buy the same games over and over *yes I am looking at you Nintendo*).
Update
Got it up and the first thing it wanted to do was download a system update of 183 mb. Anyone do this? I am trying it now.
And now after that it brings me to a page that says i can up to 3.2?? Anyone?
Get some pictures up too.
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Get some pictures up too.
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A few quick pics of your post, home screen, riptide hd and game dev story
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A few quick pics of your post, home screen, riptide hd and game dev story
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Nice one.
great reviews..anyone tried different launchers?
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dougb444 said:
Got it up and the first thing it wanted to do was download a system update of 183 mb. Anyone do this? I am trying it now.
And now after that it brings me to a page that says i can up to 3.2?? Anyone?
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u mean version 3.2???
can you share your screenshot..
Can anyone also confirm about using the tablet while charging, does charger comes out because its awkward position???
Great thread, love reading the impressions. Mine should arrive tomorrow or on Monday. Can't wait to use it! The reviews sound good so far. It will be nice when this tablet gets its own forum.
Tablet (and Forum) Newbie
I picked up the Sony Tablet S tonight. (Be gentle, this is my first post here and my first moments on the forum.)
Overall, I like it. Here are some thoughts:
Design:
The screen is beautiful. The colors are incredibly rich, there's no lag whatsoever, it's not choppy. It's like holding a miniature Sony television, and I love it. Easily on par with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (imvho.)
I actually really enjoy the folded design. Quite a few reviews have blasted Sony for going cheap on this, but like a previous poster said, it doesn't feel cheap - just lightweight, and I'm *very* okay with that. The design feels really nice to hold in portrait and landscape mode. It feels incredibly light, and I was packing it around like I would pack a folder. It feels very natural. It looks fine sitting on a coffee table too - the incline is just right.
Android:
I've had an HTC Evo 4G and currently have a Nexus S; Honeycomb feels very similar. I'm still trying to figure out how to add my widgets (doh!) but I'm sure it'll come soon. I've only been playing for about an hour at this point. It seems that Sony didn't screw with the UI - good on them.
I do miss the Android Market on my Nexus S - I just like the layout. It would look really slick on a tablet.
Sony Apps:
This ... blergh. I'm unhappy. Sony sucks ass for not having their Video and Music Unlimited apps/sites ready for this baby's launch. It's unacceptable to get something brand new, see their preloaded apps on the homescreen, clicking on the apps, and seeing, "Thank you for Choosing Music/Video Unlimited. Service for the Sony Tablet will be arriving soon. Keep checking back for more details." It looks very half baked, and was a terrible, terrible idea to include this prominently but not in an operable format.
On a positive note, Crash Bandicoot and the Pinball game are fun and fantastic. Yeah, iTards, enjoy "Hanging with Friends." I'll be playing Crash Bandicoot. It's a little pixelated, but overall, very cool. The controllers are considerably better than I thought they would be.
Battery life:
Haven't had it long enough to offer a real determination - it did get to 100% within about 1.5 hours, and it was at 20% out of the box. I knew this before I bought it, so it's not a judgement - but the proprietary charger is just lame. It's two separate pieces that have to be put together to charge the device. It's just silly and completely overkill.
Other:
SUPER sad that I can't seem to get Netflix on this baby. It would be pretty close to perfect if I could. However, I'm a fraidey cat and won't root this (It's my first tablet, and I'm not a techie by any means.)
Same with Skype video chat. It's cool that Google Talk comes with video support right out of the box, but I'd really love to be able to use something more universal. Fortunately, it sounds like Facebook may ultimately be the real universal vid chat provider in the near future, so hopefully won't have to wait long.
Still ... Netflix ... sadface.
Overall, I love this. I'm glad I purchased it over the other Android tablets I was considering, but I'm a bit nervous about how supportive Sony will be of this tablet in the long run; if they can't support it on it's first day out, who's to say they will be doing so in 5 or 6 months?
Not a bad tablet. Playing around with it I found how to get into android recovery. Power it down. Hold the power and volume up and down buttons until the Sony logo comes up. At that point keep holding down the volume buttons and let go of the power button. Keep holding the volume buttons until the recovery screen opens up. Its not much but just something I found. Now its time to figure out how to flash a custom recovery.
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great reviews..anyone tried different launchers?
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u mean version 3.2???
can you share your screenshot..
Can anyone also confirm about using the tablet while charging, does charger comes out because its awkward position???
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If u look st the pics I posted u can see the chsrger lead doesnt really stick out too much, the fact that u can rotate the tablet any way means that if it is in your way you can just flip it and it wont be, although if u keep doing that u might twist ur wire
I am typing this with it plugged in and cant really notice it.
Hi Guys,
I have read this about Sony S:
- Wouldn’t let me load Divx-encoded AVI files.
- SD card slot can’t be used to expand the tablet’s built-in memory.
CAN ANYONE CONFIRM??
xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi Guys,
I have read this about Sony S:
- Wouldn’t let me load Divx-encoded AVI files.
- SD card slot can’t be used to expand the tablet’s built-in memory.
CAN ANYONE CONFIRM??
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I am not sure about the Divx files. I will have to check into that. You may have to use a 3rd party app to play them.
I can confirm the sd card issue. I am thinking of taking mine back and getting a Xoom just for that reason. If you put your sd card in and want to access those files you have to use Sony's app to transfer them over to the "S" so you can use them. There is a work around, but it sucks. You can use a file explorer and navigate to sd card 2 (I think is what it is called) and play them that way.
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I am not sure about the Divx files. I will have to check into that. You may have to use a 3rd party app to play them.
I can confirm the sd card issue. I am thinking of taking mine back and getting a Xoom just for that reason. If you put your sd card in and want to access those files you have to use Sony's app to transfer them over to the "S" so you can use them. There is a work around, but it sucks. You can use a file explorer and navigate to sd card 2 (I think is what it is called) and play them that way.
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As far as divx, I also need to confirm.
For the SD card problem. I can open the file right away using the file transfer app, without transferring it to the tablet.
xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi Guys,
I have read this about Sony S:
- Wouldn’t let me load Divx-encoded AVI files.
- SD card slot can’t be used to expand the tablet’s built-in memory.
CAN ANYONE CONFIRM??
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No native playback of divx, but they work great if u download an app called Rockplayer
Files on SD currently have to be transferred before u can playbsck, but sony have indicated that this might change with a future software update (sure someone here will beat them to it tho)
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Hi,
just got SGT 3G 10.1 to write a review. Since my everyday device is iPad (1) and a while back I have decided I will wait Tegra 2 devices out I got few simple questions I need help with (because of the different system):
- how do I put Netflix app on this thing?
- how do I hack Hulu (I do not have Hulu Plus)?
- I got Dice player (trial) and it works nicely with my NAS storage but it is a trial :-( I do not want to spend cash on software since I do not have any Android device currently - so.. is there any decent free alternative to Dice Player (btw: Mobo is having problems with playback)
- is there any nice (free) RSS reader (like Mobile RSS for iPad)
- any other way to watch NBC or ABC (there are apps for iPad) than through browser?
- do you guys use stock browser or is there any better free alternative (heard rumours that proper Chrome is coming - lucky you!!)
Do your SGT's get warm at the back (area below on/off switch)?
Thanks for help, in advance!
Are you planning to review the SGT 10.1 also .....?
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Also?
No, just.
But I am interested in those things for myself as well. A while back I decided to go with iPad 1 instead of SGT. Now, since I got it for a longer period of time I also want to know if I made a right choice.
galtom said:
Hi,
just got SGT 3G 10.1 to write a review. Since my everyday device is iPad (1) and a while back I have decided I will wait Tegra 2 devices out I got few simple questions I need help with (because of the different system):
- how do I put Netflix app on this thing?
- how do I hack Hulu (I do not have Hulu Plus)?
- I got Dice player (trial) and it works nicely with my NAS storage but it is a trial :-( I do not want to spend cash on software since I do not have any Android device currently - so.. is there any decent free alternative to Dice Player (btw: Mobo is having problems with playback)
- is there any nice (free) RSS reader (like Mobile RSS for iPad)
- any other way to watch NBC or ABC (there are apps for iPad) than through browser?
- do you guys use stock browser or is there any better free alternative (heard rumours that proper Chrome is coming - lucky you!!)
Do your SGT's get warm at the back (area below on/off switch)?
Thanks for help, in advance!
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Every single question you asked above literally has had it own thread started. You don't even have to use the search function, just scroll down a few posts. You'll find every answer to each of you questions and beable to join in on the discussions there. No real need to start a new post just join in on those posts, it'll make it alot easier for you to find the info your looking for.
galtom said:
Also?
No, just.
But I am interested in those things for myself as well. A while back I decided to go with iPad 1 instead of SGT. Now, since I got it for a longer period of time I also want to know if I made a right choice.
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So what your saying is that your not really planning on doing a review on the Tab 10.1??? The title of your post confuses me a bit then.
And since you have both the iPad and a Tab wouldn't it be easy to see if you made the right choice for yourself. You have both devices right in front of you to compare. "The right choice" is really dependant on how you plan to use and what your looking for from your device. Everyone expects and demands a little something different from the devices they choose. Case in point, my wife wanted a tablet that she could play games on, check her email and shop online with. I wanted a tablet that I could tweek to were I could use it for not only personal things like media, browsing and gaming but also easily setup to use for work as well. She opted for the iPad 2 for its ease of setup and use, I opted for the Tab 10.1 for its ability to customize it to my exact needs.
The right choice is for you and only you to make in the end... Your the one who has to use it everyday.
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No, no. Sorry for misunderstanding. I am definitely doing SGT 10.1 review.
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is there any decent free alternative to Dice Player (btw: Mobo is having problems with playback)
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Try MX Palyer.
What software version does your tab have? I ask because older versions are really laggy. Install KI1 and you will get a really smooth device, you can find it in development forum.
RSS reader, try Pulse.
I'm using the stock browser. Make sure you enable plug ins in settings, otherwise flash won't work.
You can find the Netflix apk in apps forum.
I found a link to Netflix app on transformer forum. Downloaded, installed - does not work :-(.
After logging in I got error message about stream (will let you know the no later on as I do not have the device with me).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=93644018 - this is all I found about hulu - not much (I entered Hulu Hack).
BTW: how to get apps that have regional restricition, with iTunes it is easy, one just needs to setup new account. Same with Android Market?
Software on this tab shows HC 3.1 and it is laggy as hell. When going out from settings to home screen it takes a bit to draw all the widgets and first few swipes between desktops are far from smooth
Al the time I find its screen a bit less responsive than at iPad - has any one else similar feeling/response?
And let me ask again - back of the device I got gets quite warm, enough to get sweaty fingers which makes holding the device not very pleasant.
I think manufacturers should make teir tablets as light as possible but a bit thicker (not like Xoom or Thrive) but a bit chunkier than iPad2 or SGT 10.1.
But my overall experience so far is good - funny thing about screens. As there is difference between iPad and SGT in resolution (and fonts and screen size) I find it easier to surf the net with ipad (I use iPad 99% of the time in horizontal position with "Home" button on the side), like everything on the screen a wee bit bigger and easier to read. On the other hand when it comes to pictures and movies SGT looks better.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Sorry my bad.
Umm Netflix is on the market. Most of these questions are android related and not specific to the tab. I encourage you to try out apps and read the forums like the rest of us if you want a true review. The beauty of android is its ability to be customized. Take some time to make the device truly yours then review it.
I appreciate your comment, that is exactly what I am trying to do. Unfortunately I can not find the information I am looking for. I have tried "search" and entered there both "key words" Netflix and Hulu - so far no luck.
If Netflix app is in the market it is ot available to me as I'm am not in the USA. I have to admit that it is much easier with iOS. Especially for someone fresh.
I have had both and got rid of the ipad2. My main reason, though, was I needed openvpn and couldn't wait for a jailbreak for the ipad2 to come out since mine was new enough to already have 4.2.5 on it, no SHSH blobs.
That said I ditched my iPhone for a captivate, so I should have known already
Does samsung really expect anyone to take them seriously when they charge over $260 for only 8Gb of storage. And a horrible resolution for the screensize.
There has to be some major alaising going on in most apps and games.
I want one really bad but not with only 8GB of storage.
Christ i can use that just in apps let alone music.
My one saving grace here is that i have a nice 32GB mSDCard not being used.
Really makes me mad that us cellular is in no hurry to bring the SG II to us customers. I guess maybe this will suffice until they do.
Voice your opinion
- are you happy you got it even though you probably already have an android phone?
- Are you killing your phone battery because you are tethering the player to your phone because its a nicer device to use for surfing, email, apps, games?
yeah, Im thinking about getting this player, but I might wait for the Galaxy Note, 5.3" super amoled I think plus easy removable battery. I dont mind carrying a battery or two in my bag
The Note is a phone not a tablet though.
So unless it comes to your Carrier you will be forking over some huge ol dollar bills for it.
I bet 600-700 or more.
I just received the 5.0 player ($30 less at Amazon), and now that I have it, I would have paid $260. IMO 5" is much better than 7" for portability (fits pocket). I have an Optimus-V phone that is just too small. The SGP5 gets me a nice 5" display, FM radio, "tons" more space than my phone (I have my phone rooted, but still there's only about 100mb left for apps... this thing has like 1.5gb for apps).... I still have 1gB after "filling it up". I added a 16gB card ($15), so I have 22gB free. My OV tethers to it in 5-10 seconds (I don't plan on using that much since I have wifi at home and work). I have no cell service at home, so the SGP5 on wifi with GrooveIP takes care of most of my phone needs. Sound quality is as good as most of the other larger tablets... no regrets whatsoever. Eventually, I'll probably go back to the VM Paylo plan at $5/mo... and all my needs will be met for $5/mo.
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I just received the 5.0 player ($30 less at Amazon), and now that I have it, I would have paid $260. IMO 5" is much better than 7" for portability (fits pocket). I have an Optimus-V phone that is just too small. The SGP5 gets me a nice 5" display, FM radio, "tons" more space than my phone (I have my phone rooted, but still there's only about 100mb left for apps... this thing has like 1.5gb for apps).... I still have 1gB after "filling it up". I added a 16gB card ($15), so I have 22gB free. My OV tethers to it in 5-10 seconds (I don't plan on using that much since I have wifi at home and work). I have no cell service at home, so the SGP5 on wifi with GrooveIP takes care of most of my phone needs. Sound quality is as good as most of the other larger tablets... no regrets whatsoever. Eventually, I'll probably go back to the VM Paylo plan at $5/mo... and all my needs will be met for $5/mo.
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tcat thanks for that well written reply. thats the kind of stuff i want to hear.
along with any bad too bud i really doubt there is much bad to say aside from low storage and maybe resolution.
what do you think about the low resolution on that big of a screen?
are you seeing much jaggies or poor graphics where as your phone or other device may look better ?
Just got the Player 5 for $229.00 at Best Buy (check their on line store). Amazon had it for $229 too but now it's back up to $260. I would wait cause I think it is going to go back on sale soon.
I also thought about the Galaxy Note but it is going to be much more expensive OR you will need to have a cell contract with it. I got the Player to ditch my cell phone and make calls via Google Voice/Groove IP. I was a little worried about screen quality too but so far the screen quality has been fine - everything looks really good. Downloaded a game called Air Attack (or something like that) - a side scroller with WWII planes - and the graphics are impressive. Can't see how the graphics could be any better. Video, Angry Birds, etc. all look great.
Only downside so far is I thought the battery was user replaceable on the 5.0 - turns out it is only user replaceable on the 4.0. Hopefully, being a geek, I'll find a way to do it myself. That and I hope the custom roms become available for it.
Pardon my ignorance. I just stumbled upon this thread from new posts on the xda app on my phone. Is this sgp a tablet? What version of Android is it running?
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Pardon my ignorance. I just stumbled upon this thread from new posts on the xda app on my phone. Is this sgp a tablet? What version of Android is it running?
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Technically no it is an mp3 player.
But because it is a fully functional android device it has web browsing email and all the normal android goodies found on a phone (minus the phone, texting and good accurate gps, etc.)
Some people call it a tablet because it's 5 inches but in my eyes it's not even remotely close to a tablet
it does have gps but like all tablets without a cellular contract you have to be on wifi for it to work.and its not as accurate.
its a marketing/selling point. not something that is really very useful unless you can get on wifi and need directions to somewhere.
"Low" is all relative. Not like an Ipod, but my Dell PC screen is about 125dpi, this is like 180dpi. My Optimus-V is 160dpi. Some apps show jaggies worse than others (maybe not optimized for 800x480).. but overall it's very nice. Depends a lot on font also. The font in the Market really sucks, but system fonts aren't bad. I posted this on another forum, so far what my home screen looks like: (it's not quite as crisp as this, but isn't far off)
(Digi Clock Widget, Battery Status Text, Widgetsoid2 widgets)
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tcat thanks for that well written reply. thats the kind of stuff i want to hear.
along with any bad too bud i really doubt there is much bad to say aside from low storage and maybe resolution.
what do you think about the low resolution on that big of a screen?
are you seeing much jaggies or poor graphics where as your phone or other device may look better ?
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Doubts? Visit a store. Do not rely on reviews.
"Are you killing your phone battery because you are tethering the player to your phone because its a nicer device to use for surfing, email, apps, games?"
False.
At least in the case of the Galaxy i5500 that I use. No. It does not consume the battery.
Understand that when using the Galaxy i5500 so it stays in stanby. The battery is not consumed to any processing.
About resolution: it is great. Doubt? go to a store and test. If I had not done that maybe would not have bought and would be losing a good device like him.
About GPS: Yes, It works great. There are videos on Youtube with the G70 Galaxy 5.0 this function attached to a carrier. See for yourself.
About Tablet: Check the specifications of the 1010 Galaxy Tablet Wifi. You will see that the G70 is the same but with 5 ".
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"its a marketing / selling point. something that is really not very useful unless you Can get on wifi and need directions to somewhere."
I totally disagree. Extremely useful. But ... Still do not understand. You bought and regretted it because it was not useful or is just being subjective?
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"Low" is all relative. Not like an Ipod, but my Dell PC screen is about 125dpi, this is like 180dpi. My Optimus-V is 160dpi. Some apps show jaggies worse than others (maybe not optimized for 800x480).. but overall it's very nice. Depends a lot on font also. The font in the Market really sucks, but system fonts aren't bad. I posted this on another forum, so far what my home screen looks like: (it's not quite as crisp as this, but isn't far off)
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I want that wallpaper! Where can I find it?
Zedge, I believe I searched "Android". Enter your player so it determines your screen size, and all kinds of cool wallpapers show up. Here's my 2nd screen:
(three shortcut icons, smooth calendar, Jeannie)
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I want that wallpaper! Where can I find it?
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Nice to know that GrooVeIP works. Does anyone know if offline GPS software like Navigon or Copilot works? I'm EXTREMELY tempted to grab a GP5.0, especially with a $25 amazon coupon I have to lower the price even more.
The price is now $199 on Amazon for the 4.0
754boy said:
Nice to know that GrooVeIP works. Does anyone know if offline GPS software like Navigon or Copilot works? I'm EXTREMELY tempted to grab a GP5.0, especially with a $25 amazon coupon I have to lower the price even more.
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Copilot works ok, aside from the bugs present in the app.
I brought this from BestBuy for $239.00 with 8gb SD thown in for free but I already had a 16gb card.. So far I'm liking it I like the size of the screen for when I'm watching movies. Shadowgun runs well on it better than running it on my Kindle Fire for some reason. Love that I can use it has a phone with GrooVe IP and Google Voice install no drop calls a call quality has been very clear. Netflix runs well colors look a little wash out but it doesn't take away from watching a movie/tv show. Splashtop App works fine so if there is movie or music or wanting to watch hulu just remote into my computer. It starts a little jumpy but once it gets going works really fine. I use my Thunderbolt to tether to device.
Alicia
ADR USR said:
"Are you killing your phone battery because you are tethering the player to your phone because its a nicer device to use for surfing, email, apps, games?"
False.
At least in the case of the Galaxy i5500 that I use. No. It does not consume the battery.
Understand that when using the Galaxy i5500 so it stays in stanby. The battery is not consumed to any processing.
About resolution: it is great. Doubt? go to a store and test. If I had not done that maybe would not have bought and would be losing a good device like him.
About GPS: Yes, It works great. There are videos on Youtube with the G70 Galaxy 5.0 this function attached to a carrier. See for yourself.
About Tablet: Check the specifications of the 1010 Galaxy Tablet Wifi. You will see that the G70 is the same but with 5 ".
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"its a marketing / selling point. something that is really not very useful unless you Can get on wifi and need directions to somewhere."
I totally disagree. Extremely useful. But ... Still do not understand. You bought and regretted it because it was not useful or is just being subjective?
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i am being subjective because no tablet or tablet like device has a working GPS without a data connection.
several tablets like the acer iconia and asus transformer tried to make GPS work without a WiFi connection and it just doesnt work. the gPS needs a data connection in order to transmit and receive the data, mostly the map data but also for general functionality of the gPS.
you can alter the gPS config file to use different servers which help but in general without a wifi connection it is very very innaccurate and slow, taking 10 minutes or more to lock on.
now if you are in the USA and are telling me that the GPS on the Galaxy 5 is different and that it locks onto your location, is very quick (like it locks on in a minute or less) and is accurate with its location of where you are (within 10 meters, lets say. then i will retract my statement about GPS being useless with out a WiFi connection. - remember i said that you have to do with without a GPS connection, otherwise the GPS is useless because you will have to be around some sort of wifi, be it your phone hotspot, or something else.
and if you have to use your phone wifi hotspot then you might as well just use your phone.
as for everything else, then i am sorry i really dont understand what you were saying other than the screen resolution looking nice.
which i agree it does from the few times i have played with it in best buy. but i did not watch a movie or really play a game outside of angry birds lol.
i may go grab one from best buy tonight isnce its on sale for $236 but i just hate returning things, even if i dont like it, i want to do as much research as i can before i (may) waste anyones time.
also with regards to your statement
Understand that when using the Galaxy i5500 so it stays in stanby. The battery is not consumed to any processing.
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that is absolutely false and especially if you have tethering turned on. it uses alot of battery to tether.
just because the screen is off doesnt mean its in standby. if it were in standby then tethering would not work.
the screen shut off thats all.
everything else is still running because tethering is active.
the cpu will probably throttle but only if it can.
if your tethering uses to much CPU then it will force the CPU to stay at a higher freq. and use up alot of battery.
plus the wifi and cellular chipsets are running full steam, so again, its just killing the battery.
what i meant to ask was... ."are you using it alot tethered to your phone, and thus killing your phones battery life?" meaning, recharging it alot sooner because normally would would not be tethering it.
I have Copilot Live Standard USA installed on my Galaxy S WiFi 5.0 and it works great. Used it for a half a dozen trips already. GPS locks on quickly (about 15-20 seconds). And because Copilot stores maps on the device, I don't need to have a connection to the internet. Routes get calculated quickly and if I deviate from the route, it recalculates quickly. This actually picks up my location and calculates routes quicker than my dedicated TomTom GPS (but its a few years old). The nice 5 inch screen makes it real nice for use as a GPS as well. This also seems to be vary accurate on my location and again it seems more accurate than my TomTom ever was.
marcusmarcus said:
I have Copilot Live Standard USA installed on my Galaxy S WiFi 5.0 and it works great. Used it for a half a dozen trips already. GPS locks on quickly (about 15-20 seconds). And because Copilot stores maps on the device, I don't need to have a connection to the internet. Routes get calculated quickly and if I deviate from the route, it recalculates quickly. This actually picks up my location and calculates routes quicker than my dedicated TomTom GPS (but its a few years old). The nice 5 inch screen makes it real nice for use as a GPS as well. This also seems to be vary accurate on my location and again it seems more accurate than my TomTom ever was.
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Nice. Are you able to store the map on the external_sd and if so, how did you do it?
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i am being subjective because no tablet or tablet like device has a working GPS without a data connection.
several tablets like the acer iconia and asus transformer tried to make GPS work without a WiFi connection and it just doesnt work. the gPS needs a data connection in order to transmit and receive the data, mostly the map data but also for general functionality of the gPS.
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This has not been my experience with the YP-G70. I use Sygic which is a standalone car navigation app. It works well and doesn't need wifi. It is true that if GPS has not been used for a while then the first fix can take a few minutes. However, after that, fixes occur in well under a minute. I wonder if you have tried a standalone GPS app on the YP-G70 and failed to get it to work, or whether you are basing your statements only on experience with other devices.
This is going to be my first tablet and I was wanting to hear from the tablet vets what are the best, must have apps and what are the best practices for ownership?
Do you recommend some brand of shields for the screen?
Best cases for the transformer?
Apps that you install before anything else?
What services did you tie in and are their any tricks to using the? For example I use to use dropbox to sync many system pref between the systems by making symbolic links to the Dropbox dir. (yes, that is a very old and not usually needed trick but you get the idea.)
Are their any cases that allow the tablet to dock w/o removing the tablet from the case.
What do you think of the asus drive privacy terms? I will not use amazons cloud drive w/o encrypting the entire contents due to their privacy clause.
Splash top works well on my wife's iPad was planning to use that, then heard of asus's implementation of splash top or is there better for android? Did some searching on it and found asus is using splash top too, is there any reason to buy splashtop hd? Didn't see any solid answer on that with google.
I think that is enough of my ideas just interested in hearing what everyone has found in their own experences.
I did some searching and all I have found is threads about best app and such looking for alittle more that fotm apps. Though I think my search foo is weak, if this has been posted sorry and would appreciate a link pointing me to the right place.
Ah one more from me any brands of shdc cards I need to avoid?
I ordered a skinomi clear skin /screen protector! This will allow It to dock! I would have gotten carbon but the speaker cutout will look weird! Remember that with any case their will be a square cutout for the speaker!
I'm in the same boat as you this will be be my first tablet!
I think you should have made a separate post for the must have tablet apps!
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I think that if I ask about best apps you would need what type of app you are looking at like
What is the best keyboard app?
What is the best rdp app?
Looking for something alittle more general than that. Like:
I need a battery monitor app/widget, I personally use battery monitor widget the pro version is nices as it allows battery tracking.
Best apps change as they new ones come out or old ones get updates, but the role they fill always needs filling.
Thanks for recommendation on the cover! Googling it now.
Also posters if you see someone recommending and app/case and you know of a flaw or problem with said item please tell us your experience and how you have worked around or solved said problems.
Selutha said:
This is going to be my first tablet and I was wanting to hear from the tablet vets what are the best, must have apps and what are the best practices for ownership?
Do you recommend some brand of shields for the screen?
Best cases for the transformer?
Apps that you install before anything else?
What services did you tie in and are their any tricks to using the? For example I use to use dropbox to sync many system pref between the systems by making symbolic links to the Dropbox dir. (yes, that is a very old and not usually needed trick but you get the idea.)
Are their any cases that allow the tablet to dock w/o removing the tablet from the case.
What do you think of the asus drive privacy terms? I will not use amazons cloud drive w/o encrypting the entire contents due to their privacy clause.
Splash top works well on my wife's iPad was planning to use that, then heard of asus's implementation of splash top or is there better for android? Did some searching on it and found asus is using splash top too, is there any reason to buy splashtop hd? Didn't see any solid answer on that with google.
I think that is enough of my ideas just interested in hearing what everyone has found in their own experences.
I did some searching and all I have found is threads about best app and such looking for alittle more that fotm apps. Though I think my search foo is weak, if this has been posted sorry and would appreciate a link pointing me to the right place.
Ah one more from me any brands of shdc cards I need to avoid?
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Less than a handful can actually comment on experience with this tablet as it's not officially out yet. Less than 5 here have it in possession already. There are reads in prime section of forum that basically covers all your sections. You will want spalshtop HD as it works great with Android tablets. As far as accessories and cases goes, check out the thread called Ultimate transformer Prime accessories thread. Also look into accessories sub forum here. There's a lot of people commenting on various cases that would be good for this device. For apps, that depends on what you looking for. Productivity, entertainment, games, research, etc.. Be more specific. Now with memory cards, there's a few threads here in general section that will answer your questions on that.
I know there is a lot of b.s. Preorder threads to sift thru here in general section. But all the answers you looking for are here. They may be a page or two back in this section. I would post links but there are so many. Good luck on your search
I will start flipping back in the pages to see what I can find. Thanks for the search pointers!
Though I do know only a few here have the device but, I was thinking that for most this would not be their first device and I was not looking for experience with "asus transformer prime" but more general knowledge with a leaning on the prime. I though that most here would be more knowledge able about the spec that the asus prime would have and most tablets have hc on them.
Though you make good points and I thank you for your advice. Going into the sub forums, damn there are a lot of pre order threads almost wish there was a temp sub forum called preorder.
I can't see if find if the asus splash top is splash top had or not anyone know?
This list should keep you busy for a while.
Best Free Android Apps 2011
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-android-apps.htm
Top 160 best Android apps 2011
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-phones/top-160-best-android-apps-2011-693696
The Best Free Android Apps of 2011 (So Far)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/229323/the_best_free_android_apps_of_2011_so_far.html
The 10 best free android apps of 2011
http://galaxys2apps.net/newsandmagazines/the-10-best-free-android-apps-of-2011/
The 40 Best Free Android Apps for 2011
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2366244,00.asp
Results for "best android apps"
http://www.cnet.com/1770-5_1-0.html?query=best+android+apps&searchtype=videos
Ultimate Transformer PRIME TF201 Accessory Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377669
Thank you for the links and yes it will keep me busy for some time.
Sorry for my weak search foo
Tablets are pretty fun to use. However, it is rather difficult to bring out a tablet in public as they are quite cumbersome and you look like a pompous asshole with it; trust me. However, the transformer series has the keyboard dock, making you look like a more practical human being.
I used my TF101 in some college classes for note taking. I used Evernote. Worked beautifully. However, I want some faster speed lol.
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I will start flipping back in the pages to see what I can find. Thanks for the search pointers!
Though I do know only a few here have the device but, I was thinking that for most this would not be their first device and I was not looking for experience with "asus transformer prime" but more general knowledge with a leaning on the prime. I though that most here would be more knowledge able about the spec that the asus prime would have and most tablets have hc on them.
Though you make good points and I thank you for your advice. Going into the sub forums, damn there are a lot of pre order threads almost wish there was a temp sub forum called preorder.
I can't see if find if the asus splash top is splash top had or not anyone know?
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There was a thread talking about that splash top. I don't think the one included is the HD one. I think it's the regular one. Splash HD is the one you really want though as it has all features unlocked and better for tablets. All I've heard is great things about it though. I have it on my iPad and Atix4g.
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Tablets are pretty fun to use. However, it is rather difficult to bring out a tablet in public as they are quite cumbersome and you look like a pompous asshole with it; trust me. However, the transformer series has the keyboard dock, making you look like a more practical human being.
I used my TF101 in some college classes for note taking. I used Evernote. Worked beautifully. However, I want some faster speed lol.
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What do you mean by cumbersome? Lmao as my iPad is light and very easy to carry around. Now for the pompous comment, I guess some could see it like that. I always get looks n comments like oh look, he has one of those iPad/tablet things. Lol. Like people who have/carry tablets are better than everyone...
Just saw the stylus jot pro it looks like pure sex in the ultimate as stories thread I am ordering one of those.
Thanks for the info on splash top I was hoping that I could use the asus provided on but hd looks good compared to splashtop
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90% of what he asked was generic and the Prime's going to run the exact same applications every other HC tablet does exactly the same way (albeit faster). There might be some Teg3 optimized games but, other than that, it's just another tablet from a utilization perspective.
Here's some apps I can't live without:
Plex and Playon for video streaming
With Plex, you can store all your audio and video content on your home PC, NAS, or WHS and play it on your tablet, even over a 3G connection. It does an impressive job of organizing, labeling, and presenting your content and the tablet interface is pretty slick. I have 2TB of video that I stream to my tablet. It does a fantastic job of transcoding so the video quality's great even over sketchy connections.
PlayOn provides access to Hulu, Amazon VOD, and Netflix. It too is excellent at transcoding and actually does a better job in terms of video quality and buffering than the native apps. It's the best way to access Hulu content.
Pulse and News360 for news
Both have great tablet interfaces, sync with their desktop companions to bookmark or save stories, and can be highly personalized.
Zinio, PressReader, and Next Issue for magazines and newspapers
All have great content available and are designed for tablet screens. Next Issue content is free if you already have print subscriptions.
Read it Later for offline web surfing
Great app for finding web stuff to download to your tablet either as you see it or from your desktop PC to read later.
Swiftkey Tablet X & Swype keyboards
Swiftkey is a fantastic keyboard with excellent predicitive word logic and layout. It also has a thumb keyboard setting which is great when you aren't using a physical keyboard.
Swype has a mini-mode which takes up about 1/8 of the screen and is really fast when you're writing longer e-mails or docs.
CoPilot for navigation
Google map caching is hit or miss when you need to deviate and don't have a wireless signal. CoPilot stores all data locally and doesn't require any wireless signal to be fully functional.
TouchDown for e-mail
It's the best e-mail app for contact management and tasks. You almost have to have it if you connect to Exchange. It's got the best widgets of any e-mail program out there.
Worldmate travel companion
If you travel a lot Worldmate stores the details of your future trips on your tablet. As you're traveling it provides alerts for gates and times and any delays or changes to your itinerary. You can check flight status for any airline in real time and look up alternates if you're screwed.
Widgets
There's tons of screen space to fill on a tablet and these are some of the widgets I think are cool looking, useful, or both.
- Google Market
- AP Mobile
- CNBC
- CNN
- Pulse (multiples)
- Touchdown e-mail, calendar, and tasks
- Worldmate (live flight alerts on your home screen)
- Social Hub
- Gallery
- Kobo
- Amazon MP3
Task killers, batter managers, and the like
Tablets are different than phones and they're used differently. Android as an OS manages resources incredibly effectively. While it's a personal choice, adding things that use resources to save resources seems counter intuitive to me and I don't use them.
Half the fun of an Android tablet (vs. iOS) is the ability to make it your own. Enjoy.
Asus already included a big portion of the apps you might need for basic usage.
But here s some apps I use pretty much every day with my transformer, they re almost all optimized for tablet (android 3.0 framework)
Wizz Widget (for social feed)
tTorrent (for downloading)
subloader (for automatic subtitle downloading)
mobo player / bs player (for watching any kind of video)
File manager HD (a file explorer, better than Asus's one)
Newsr (a google reader better than google reader)
Catch note (to take and read note in the cloud, protect by password and synchronised on every device)
Google Current (offline reading of RSS feed with a very nice looking layout)
Beyondpod HD (best podcast apps)
And Adobe Photoshop Touch, Adobe Idea, Autodesk Sketchbook Pro, Picsay Pro, cause I'm a computer graphist.
Those are the apps I use the most, along which there is some usefull apps like skype, messenger, dropbox, splashtop HD, Facebook and pretty much every google Apps. (chrome to phone, translate, maps, etc etc)
Unless you're a super reckless user, a screen protector isn't going to be necessary (and is sometimes ugly/degrades screen quality). It's really hard to scratch this screen, and other ones like it.
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File manager HD (a file explorer, better than Asus's one)
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I second that.
Newsr (a google reader better than google reader)
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I would reconsider. Newsr is really buggy and slow, crashes a lot and behaves very strange when you start it before WiFi is connected. I didn't find anything better though.
For me most important are also:
- ezPDF - I don't know any better app for PDFs on any system or device (great for taking notes on books or writing answers in exercise books for school).
- Writepad Stylus - for writing (not perfect, but the best I found, if you are buying Adonit Jot, you will find it useful),
The rest for me is mostly games. Cut the Rope is the "must play". Dizzy is the "greatest but probably only appreciated by fans of the original".
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Unless you're a super reckless user, a screen protector isn't going to be necessary (and is sometimes ugly/degrades screen quality). It's really hard to scratch this screen, and other ones like it.
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I agree. I've had my Galaxy S (Gorilla Glass screen, like the Prime) in my pocket "unprotected" for about 18 months now, and although I was anxious at first, I haven't noticed any scratching of the screen. Screen protectors might have been recommended for resistive touchscreens, but I don't think they're necessary with capacitive touchscreens, because the glass is tough enough already.
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I would reconsider. Newsr is really buggy and slow, crashes a lot and behaves very strange when you start it before WiFi is connected. I didn't find anything better though.
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Weird, I don't have any problem at all with newsr. Butter smooth, fast feed load, super stable, not a single crash. Sure if you re offline it doesn't login but that's expected from a RSS reader and nothing strange happen, just a message saying that you need an internet connexion.
I wonder why you seem to have problem with it.
I just wanted to share my experiences with the ASUS Transformer Prime after 7 days of owning one...
So when the Prime was first announced, I immediately decided that was going to the first and only Android tablet I get.
It had the specs. It had the looks. It had the good initial reviews.
Then when the Prime was released in the US, the first rumblings started to come out that the Prime was not as perfect as it seemed.
I was determined not to pay too much attention to the issues that people were having and wait to get mine to make my own mind up.
So on 2nd Feb, bought my Prime. And the first 48 hours were great; the tab had excellent build quality, the OS was nippy and there was the added novelty of the keyboard dock.
Boredom set in; there are not a lot of Android tablet apps out there; the apps that were updated to work with ICS scaled up beautifully, but are still very limited. The few optimised apps I could find were just OK, not great.
Also really dumb things began to irk me within the OS; setting something as simple as wallpaper was hit and miss. Sometimes the display would refuse to show icons or widgets without a reboot.
Then the bottom segment of the display would glitch and flash.
Talking of Flash, once I installed Flash 11 on the Prime, the performance took a bit of a hit; the browser was sluggish and wouldn't render properly;
I also had issues with DLNA; the devices in my house (Xbox, PS3, iPhone, Mac) can all see the folders on my Buffalo NAS with no issues. The Prime refused to see anything but the Music folder.
Bad.
Then we had the hardware issues.
The issue with GPS is well known; no lock whatsoever indoors…Outside, 5 MINS to get a lock on ONE satellite.
I thought "meh, it's not like I'm gonna use it…"
- Wi-fi signal would drop even when I was close to the router and even on a clear channel
- Camera quality for an 8MP camera was not as good as the iPhone 4S
- Light bleed on the right side of the display was bad as well…
- Battery was lasting 6-8hrs max;
It was at this point, I started thinking: This has just cost me £500.
It was something that I had been looking forward for weeks, had saved and sacrificed for… and I'm disappointed with it…
£500 is a lot of money for a device with so many flaws; it felt like a beta product.
It also didn't help that ASUS decided to announce an upgraded model with a fix for the GPS issues and that will probably have a better QA process.
Software-wise, Android has momentum… but it's not there yet.
I wanted to use BBC iPlayer; there is no app for tablets available and you can't even use the website because it's not supported; it's the same with Sky Go.
Both of these services have fully functional iPad apps, by the way.
There just simply are not enough decent quality or killer apps for Android tablet at the moment. Specs mean nothing without content to take advantage of them.
In hindsight, it was probably too early for me to get an Android tablet. As much as I like to tinker, at the same time I need something that is functional and just works.
I returned the Prime today; gutted I had to, but there too many issues and niggles that would have prevented me from justifying spending £500 on something that's not ready for primetime (excuse the pun).
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There just simply are not enough decent quality or killer apps for Android tablet at the moment. Specs mean nothing without content to take advantage of them.
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Attacking the Prime gets you flamed. Attacking Android gets you incinerated. Be prepared.
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Attacking the Prime gets you flamed. Attacking Android gets you incinerated. Be prepared.
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It's not an attack, thank you.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 and it's brilliant; I've had no issues with it in nearly a year and it's been rooted and all sorts.
Android is a great platform, but the critical mass is not there for apps yet.
The Prime is a cracking bit of kit; ASUS kinda screwed up by releasing a hyped product with so many issues, then made it worse by announcing an better version within days of the retail launch.
The point was to share experience, not start a flame war. Your post doesn't help.
Just return and it wait for a tablet that works properly. This forum is full of people trying to justify their 600 dollar purchase with blind fanboy logic. Any idiot can see this tablet has severe issues, some of which no software update will ever fix.
So let me save people the time and I will post the responses you are likely to hear.
"Mine works just fine.. sucks for you"
"Must be user error".
"My wifi works great"( manyof these people are clueless on how to even test wifi signal)
And the ever popular "cool story bro"
Sent via smoke signal
I actually thik the opposite. IMO, iOS sucks. Apple was never a cloud company and it is still a cloud wannabe. Google has always been a cloud company. Gmail, Docs, Chrome, great stuff. I am quite content with the apps available for Android. I even found QGET for my QNAP, was surprised to see that. More will come.
Good decision imho. It didnt do what you bought it for (what ever that was, not clear to me from your post).
I'm still very happy with it. No issues. Yeah software could (and will) be better. But this thing does everything i need and it does it good. Watching full high quality flash in the browser is a huge plus for me.
One thing though, i never had an ipad - so i guess i dont know how it is when you have dozes of "tablet" apps.
What is different about those compared to apps on android tablets? The layout of them? The features? I really like the idea behind ICS and the unification of apps for phones/tablets. Only problem it was just released^^ Think about the first 6 months the ipad was out.
But still i have a nice looking "tablet" app for everything i need. Great pdf reader&book reader, very nice newspaper app was already installed offering local newspapers. The music app is stunning and feels just so good, Gmail, Polaris office, many very good choices on browsers, video player software and keyboards. Stuff like Titanium Backup? Not even windows has such a good backup system.
The simple and accessible file system android has... I dont know iOS just has absolutely no chance on a tablet compared to android. IMHO. I'm sounding like a fanboy but plz show me why iOS is so much better on a tablet? There must be some really freakin awesome apps^^
[e] just had an important thought:
I think there is a big difference. Jobs once said today its all about apps on mobile devices. People want to use an app for everything instead of using the "internet". At least thats what apple advertises... But for me that isnt true at all. When i read news, i use the browser and if I want to watch starcraft games or TV i use websites for that as well. Google is a total browser company, chrome alone shows that. And i guess thats why ios will never be better for what i'm looking for.
i cant see apple last forever. Android is individuality. iOS is conformity. Now think about what modern society is and how people are today.
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Although I love Android and my Prime, I completely agree with this statement 100%. That's what I've been telling people when they try to be like oh there's a new model tf-700 coming out, or new Lenovo crap tablet, or Samsung Ipad wannabe tablet, or whatever with higher specs. Higher specs don't mean jack of we don't have the software to fully utilize it. Its no secret that Android tablets are more powerful spec wise than Ipad or ipad2. Thing apple has downpacked is they make the most with what they have. Apps are 100% optimized for the spec on IOS devices. Just like at the beginning here, when people were crying about 1Gb of rAM not being enough to succeed. Well tell that to the sales figures of ipad1 and ipad2. My ipad1 only has 256mb of RAM. Ipad2 only has 512mb of RAM. Yet they own majority of tablet market n sell the most. The software and hardware apple brings mesh very well. I got tired of being locked down to Apples rules and very glad I got my Android tablet. My Prime kills ipad1 or 2 n looks or power or whatever. BUT they still have advantage of having wayyyy more tablet only optimized apps. There's no denying it. App store has a huge section dedicated to just tablet apps only. Makes it easier for people to distinguish between phone n tablet optimized apps.
Like I've always debated before, software is the key to Android success. Not constantly throwing hardware or higher specs at the issue. What good is a 3Ghz speed(example) new Android tablet, if its pushing the same on crap like Joe schmoe is on his cheap android phone? That's all I've been trying to say. ANDROID needs to concentrate more on the OS optimizing and the software or we will always be behind. As far as app quality goes. ANDROID is getting there though. But needs to pick up the pace fast. Especially with windows trying to jump back into the scene. Remember before there was every an android or IOS, Microsoft n windows ruled mobile. Like from my Kaiser(Tilt) n Rhodium(tilt2) days. I remember thinkn those phones were so high tech n could do so much. It was the ending of an era that brought way to IOS n Android. They were fresh n new n had killer features also. Real touch screens. Capacitive. Not that resistive touch screen crap that my old phones had. I even had a Motorola original Razed back in the day. Very high tech for its time. AS we see times are changing. It takes alot more to please people now. Just having higher specs won't do it anymore. ANDROID HAS to come with more than that. We have soon much untapped potential with Android. But like they say, Potential don't mean sh#! If its not put to use properly I have faith n Android believe it will eventually get to where it should be.
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Good decision imho. It didnt do what you bought it for (what ever that was, not clear to me from your post).
I'm still very happy with it. No issues. Yeah software could (and will) be better. But this thing does everything i need and it does it good. Watching full high quality flash in the browser is a huge plus for me.
One thing though, i never had an ipad - so i guess i dont know how it is when you have dozes of "tablet" apps.
What is different about those compared to apps on android tablets? The layout of them? The features? I really like the idea behind ICS and the unification of apps for phones/tablets. Only problem it was just released^^ Think about the first 6 months the ipad was out.
But still i have a nice looking "tablet" app for everything i need. Great pdf reader&book reader, very nice newspaper app was already installed offering local newspapers. The music app is stunning and feels just so good, Gmail, Polaris office, many very good choices on browsers, video player software and keyboards. Stuff like Titanium Backup? Not even windows has such a good backup system.
The simple and accessible file system android has... I dont know iOS just has absolutely no chance on a tablet compared to android. IMHO. I'm sounding like a fanboy but plz show me why iOS is so much better on a tablet? There must be some really freakin awesome apps^^
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I think there is a big difference. Jobs once said today its all about apps on mobile devices. People want to use an app for everything instead of using the "internet". At least thats what apple advertises... But for me that isnt true at all. When i read news, i use the browser and if I want to watch starcraft games or TV i use websites for that as well. Google is a total browser company, chrome alone shows that. And i guess thats why ios will never be better for what i'm looking for.
i cant see apple last forever. Android is individuality. iOS is conformity. Now think about what modern society is and how people are today.
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I Approve this message great points
Thanks for the responses!
It was a real wretch giving the tablet back; I love the flexibility of Android and it will get there in time...
I might even get the Prime again in a 6-12 months time... which is an ages when it comes to technology
I think its sad that someone leave a honest review gets flamed on lol, wake up and look at all the complaints on the forums the man is correct. And we all know android has potential but if the development is not there now then android is not there . That simple stop crying about how android is better
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I think its sad that someone leave a honest review gets flamed on lol, wake up and look at all the complaints on the forums the man is correct. And we all know android has potential but if the development is not there now then android is not there . That simple stop crying about how android is better
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All I said was bye
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Thanks for the responses!
It was a real wretch giving the tablet back; I love the flexibility of Android and it will get there in time...
I might even get the Prime again in a 6-12 months time... which is an ages when it comes to technology
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Yeah...its just so messed up how Asus tainted this Prime launch. Prime is an excellent device when you have a good working one. Like me I wouldn't trade my prime for any other tablet. It works so great for me. SERIOUSLY. BUT I KNOW there are defective ones out there so it messes up the experience for that person. For me this 5 core tegra3 device kicks ass. For others with defective devices, they are really disappointed n I can understand the anger behind it. But not all are that way though. The ones that aren't will always speak up n support it because of how much we enjoy it. Good luck on future tablet.
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All I said was bye
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Shouldn't you be gone then? xD
He's not talking about you specifically. People need to know the difference between generalisation/blanket statements and the particulars, like my teacher always says. :3
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Shouldn't you be gone then? xD
He's not talking about you specifically. People need to know the difference between generalisation/blanket statements and the particulars, like my teacher always says. :3
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No, no, no, I was telling him bye (very coolly I thought), I wasn't leaving. I was one of the lucky ones with the prime from 01/27 plus I got a year ADH from BB so if they fix the GPS then I will replace it based on the GPS listed on the box. Besides look at my sig.
Just realized there is a whole cool story bro world out there. Okay to the OP I gonna post one that maybe you haven't seen to cheer you up, I think he is from across the pond. BTW I bought my first OG transfomer in Oct fully 7 months after original release so that should work out for you
Later 2 I sold mine on eBay for a good deal, as I am happy and my customer is happy. I'm waiting about 10 more days for the Samsung Galaxy Note. I'm still interested in where the android technology goes in 2012. If they can't make things stronger this year they may lose their chance to be the 'best other option' with the windows tablets coming out. I believe they will be good as well.
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I think its sad that someone leave a honest review gets flamed.
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From years on forums discussing mobile devices, here's some etiquette type things I've learned.
1) Android vs. iOS - It's like comparing a diesel car to a hybrid. They both achieve the same result but totally differently. Owners of both will vigorously defend their choice. They don't need to be repeated here, but both Android and iOS have their own unique strengths and weaknesses. Saying iOS is "better" (which is subjective anyway) is a sure way of starting a flame war. Same thing applies in reverse on an Apple forum. Detente is the best anyone can hope for.
2) The "Grand Farewell" - If someone's leaving a device over issues, chances are there's already a thread open on said issues. If saying good-bye to people you don't know who really don't care what device you're leaving for or why is important to you, say it in that thread. Addressing an entire forum's audience on the front page announcing your plans is a bit self-indulgent.
3) The "I Just Got My Device" - Unless there's something unique about your particular unit, no one really cares. Theoretically they should all be the same and thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people preceded you. If you need validation, find another "I Just Got My Device" thread and bump that one with a hearty “Me Too!”
4) "My "X" Device is Better Than This Forum's "Y" Device - It's like going over to someone's house for dinner and calling them ugly. If there's a comparison thread, fine, it's open season. To jump in to a thread discussing the host forum's device and say "I don't have any issues with my ’X’" adds no value and just pisses people off; especially if they’re working through an issue. Chances are the "X" device may not have said issue but has its own which might even be worse. No one needs a “device pissing match” in the middle of an issue thread.
Just something to think about...
Now this is a proper way to share your experience and say farewell. I really appreciate that you did not disrespect the users, and stayed on topic and provided proper, no-rage fueled reasoning. Really sorry that you were not satisfied with your purchase, and it is your every right to switch to another gadget.
Would love to see you back when ICS ages a bit and Prime gets its issues solved. Me on the other hand, I am very happy with the prime.
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Software-wise, Android has momentum… but it's not there yet.
I wanted to use BBC iPlayer; there is no app for tablets available and you can't even use the website because it's not supported; it's the same with Sky Go.
Both of these services have fully functional iPad apps, by the way.
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Keeping it constructive - Sky Go app coming very soon for Android Tablets (End of Feb), iPlayer works like a charm, you have to request the desktop site from the browser, BBCHD videos are smooth as silk.
Looking forward to my flight from the UK to Australia in a couple of weeks with my Prime in tow, portable HDD connected to the USB port on the dock with 300GB of movies, this is my in flight entertainment!!
I have lightbleed, doesn't bother me, GPS is cack also, again it's what you want the tablet for and are willing to put up with - yes it's not perfect, but what is? I had an iPad2 and it kept slipping out of my hands as it was so heavy and the aluminium case was so slippy, had a Galaxy Tab 10.1 but sold it due to Tegra2 being rubbish and not wanting to convert all my movies to a format IT was happy with
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I also had issues with DLNA; the devices in my house (Xbox, PS3, iPhone, Mac) can all see the folders on my Buffalo NAS with no issues. The Prime refused to see anything but the Music folder.
Bad.
Software-wise, Android has momentum… but it's not there yet.
I wanted to use BBC iPlayer; there is no app for tablets available and you can't even use the website because it's not supported; it's the same with Sky Go.
Both of these services have fully functional iPad apps, by the way.
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In hindsight, it was probably too early for me to get an Android tablet. As much as I like to tinker, at the same time I need something that is functional and just works.
I returned the Prime today; gutted I had to, but there too many issues and niggles that would have prevented me from justifying spending £500 on something that's not ready for primetime (excuse the pun).
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seriously why didn't you buy an ipad or any stuff apple sells to people think like you?
Hello,
How are you?
I decided I'd share my story and give my insights about the Nexus 10. First a little background...
I have been an OSX user for some years. From Macbook, to Macbook Pro, to iMac, I have long ditched windows for my personal computing needs.
In the gadget front, I have always been an android user. Despite having thought about getting an iPad on some occasions, or even an iPhone, I never actually pulled the trigger.
Since my first smartphone, I have always used android phones, from 2.1, to froyo, to Ginger Bread, ICS and now Jelly bean.
After having several phones I settled for the galaxy nexus. I really like Google Web Services and the way they all just work with android and sync flawlessly.
I also love the Nexus pure android and timely updates.
Because I was so happy with my phone, when the nexus 7 came out, I bought a 16gb wifi unit. It was not my first android tablet. About a year ago I bought an HTC Flyer that a few months later I gave to my wife. At the time I had a Galaxy note and didn't use the tablet that much... But anyway...
I liked the Nexus 7. It is fast, good size, good portability. The device is not ideal for web browsing, but because of it's screen size, it is great to use phone apps to do things, like ebay app, paypal app, tapatalk, and such...
Then, after the confusion of the 13 November nexus 4 and nexus 10 launches, I ended up not getting any. Last week, I was finally able to order a Nexus 10 from the playstore and it was delivered this monday morning...
Unboxed it:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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Beautiful device. Great specs. It was light, well built and with a good feel.
Loved the screen... Beautiful piece of kit.
The front facing speakers were great...
It ran fast as hell... Synced everything with my nexus 7 and galaxy nexus beautifully!
It was a dream of a device... Until I actually started using it...
There were not too many apps for the bigger and higher res screen...
But that is ok. It is not like I use apps for facebook, ebay or forums on my laptop or desktop... I just use the web browser...
So, went and used it on the nexus 10... And that was the disappointment...
The 16:10 screen which becomes 16:9 when in use thanks to the soft buttons is horrible.
Text is crisp as hell, and I see no pixels, but I also see no content...
The tablet is just to short in height to use in landscape mode. I have to scroll and scroll and scroll to use any site... The way the sites scale on chrome, even fully zoomed out, just don't allow enough content on screen...
So, portrait, no problem...
Well, terrible...
It felt like holding a wooden board... The tablet is just too long and becomes too top heavy to use comfortably in portrait... Also, because the screen is narrow, the web sites don't look natural...
After trying to like the Nexus 10, I just couldn't...
Ended up selling it yesterday. Thanks to the high demand and low supply, I still made a tiny profit with it.
And today I ordered an Ipad 4.
I just realised that at the end of the day, it is not specs, or GPU or CPU or Ram or PPI that make a device...
When a company thinks about usability and ergonomics of a device, that just shows in the way it becomes natural and comfortable to use said device.
I just didn't find the Nexus 10 comfortable or natural for what I wanted to use it for, and that was web browsing mainly.
Maybe that will change in the future when android gets really multi tasking with resizable windows. Thanks maybe the 16:10 will be a plus.
But in the current state of tablet operating systems, for me the 4:3 is more natural and better.
So, this is my experience. I must thought I'd share.
At the end of the day this is just my impressions and my opinions and my feelings towards tablets. I am not an apple fanboy or android fanboy. I am a big nerd and a fan of technology.
It is how you feel about what you use and how what you use gets what you need done that matters. In the end of the day, tablets, phones, laptops, are either tools or toys or a bit of both, but they are not what's most important.
Best regards.
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If you're looking for an Android device with a 4:3 aspect ratio, consider buying a Nook HD+. It's probably the lightest small tablet around, and hopefully they'll port CM to it soon.
Well having a tablet, you need buttons. Most go with onscreen buttons, otherwise those cheap brands with buttons that break in a couple clicks.
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I just don't see this topic as being of any use to the community. This adds nothing. If you don't like it fine, return it sell it. But creating a topic? I never understood this other then trying tto get attention.
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Too each their own I suppose. To me the aspect ratio seems like a silly reason to sell it. I too dislike the wasted real-estate of the nav buttons, but with Android you have the choice to get rid of them.
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I just don't see this topic as being of any use to the community. This adds nothing. If you don't like it fine, return it sell it. But creating a topic? I never understood this other then trying tto get attention.
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Are reviews by tech sites useful? Are unboxing pictures and videos useful?
That is always debatable.
As is the usefulness of my topic. It might not be useful to you, it might me to someone else.
I respect that.
This is just my user reviews as someone you bought the device and had a user experience and an impression about it.
Best regards.
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That is funny...
I an called an iTroll, a simple troll, and invited to get out of here with my ipad...
But yet I think I wrote nothing offensive or provocative.
Yet, in here seems android has fanboys like apple is said to have...
People you are narrow minded and don't have tolerance to different opinions from their own.
I am not an apple fanboy, nor an android fanboy.
I own an imac, a lenovo windows laptop, a nexus 7 and a galaxy nexus. If I could afford it I would also have a Lumia 920, a surface tablet, a Macbook retina, and so on.
Because I like technology and I like to try out technology to find the one that suits me best.
I don't need to buy and sell nexus 10s to make a living... If I needed, I would not have bought one, but 20...
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The iPad is terrible for viewing media with black bars on the top and bottom of the screen.
It is also terrible for listening to music with a mono back-facing speaker compared to the front facing stereo on the Nexus 10.
Web sites with a lot of wide detail can be viewed on the Nexus 10 in landscape without zooming.
Web sites with little wide detail can be viewed in portait allowing more to be seen without scrolling.
So the Nexus 10 can be used in which ever way is best for Web sites.
Apple have already realised how much better the 16:9 format is and changed the iPhone 5 and it won't be long before the iPad follows too.
gdourado said:
There were not too many apps for the bigger and higher res screen...
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I imagine this will change in time, but currently, there isn't too much available.
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So, went and used it on the nexus 10... And that was the disappointment...
The 16:10 screen which becomes 16:9 when in use thanks to the soft buttons is horrible.
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On stock, this is a slight problem. On a custom ROM though, can just expand desktop and hide both bars for the full display.
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It felt like holding a wooden board... The tablet is just too long and becomes too top heavy to use comfortably in portrait... Also, because the screen is narrow, the web sites don't look natural...
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I do agree, not a real fan of using portrait mode on the Nexus 10.
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But yet I think I wrote nothing offensive or provocative.
Yet, in here seems android has fanboys like apple is said to have...
People you are narrow minded and don't have tolerance to different opinions from their own.
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I kind of agree, I actually found your post pretty pleasing to read; nothing deserving of a "iTroll" or any other harsh words...
He is a yellow journalist who got paid to do negative campaign. He dont like change and what he meant is that he is comfortable with the vga screen rather than using the hd because he likes it that way. Well enough its just you who like the outdated 4:3. As far as full screen scaled apps are not there. You have to wait a little for that the full hd screens just came out. Devs need time to scale theur apps. U didnt like the form factor well then stick with ur nexus 7. 10 inch is for those who are replacing their PC with a tablet.
In the end not every device is for everyone. Ppl with money just buy everything thinkingit will be productive. Next time consider ur use and then buy a device.
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He is a yellow journalist who got paid to do negative campaign. He dont like change and what he meant is that he is comfortable with the vga screen rather than using the hd because he likes it that way.
Well enough its just you who like the outdated 4:3. As far as full screen scaled apps are not there.
You have to wait a little for that the full hd screens just came out. Devs need time to scale theur apps.
10 inch is for those who are replacing their PC with a tablet.
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FYI - HD is anything over 720p (or 1080p depending on what you think), the ipad 4 isn't VGA. oh. and VGA is not a quality of screen, it's an output method, that can output more than 1080p funnily enough. (ok, lets assume that you mean 640x480 anyways, but the ipad still isn't that)
i find that saying 4:3 is outdated is a little silly, as it does allow you to use it in multiple orientations more easily than a 16:10 (but yeah, 16:10 is nice too for other reasons)
you can't replace a PC with a tablet. (well, not completely)
I don't get people complaining of landscape mode for web browsing. I have yet to own a tablet and can't wait to use the screen size in landscape mode for web browsing, it is going to be a dream.
But this is coming from a guy who never owned a tablet and browses the web on a 4" Ipod 5 in landscape mode.
I am looking forward to the aspect ratio of this tablet. How big do you need?
I just got my nexus 10. Which Google delayed shipping to me because they ran out of stock on the 8 GB phone (mind you I ordered on day 1 too) oh and they put a bumper in lieu of my actual phone and Google csr tier II is terrible. So not only did I have to wait 2 weeks to get my tablet which they still had plenty of stock they ************ forgot the phone which caused the delay in the first place. †************* great.
So now onto my experience with the tablet. It doesn't feel as smooth as the nexus 4. Video playback is amazing though. The text is not as smooth or crops as compared to the iPad 3 in my house. The book readers are terrible ... I am sorry but iBooks is actually much easier to use and in a twist of irony you can also use manually place your own ebooks into I books but you can't with Google's default reader. I also hate this keyboard which I plan to change.
Sent from my nexus 10 for which I have mixed feelings about and perhaps I'm A TAD BIT colored by my extreme hatred over this Google play fiasco.
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FYI - HD is anything over 720p (or 1080p depending on what you think), the ipad 4 isn't VGA. oh. and VGA is not a quality of screen, it's an output method, that can output more than 1080p funnily enough. (ok, lets assume that you mean 640x480 anyways, but the ipad still isn't that)
i find that saying 4:3 is outdated is a little silly, as it does allow you to use it in multiple orientations more easily than a 16:10 (but yeah, 16:10 is nice too for other reasons)
you can't replace a PC with a tablet. (well, not completely)
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lol yes VGA stands for Video Graphics Adapter... i think a fair statement would be for working 4:3 is preferred and when playing 16:10 ... keep in mind tho it wasnt so long ago ALL tvs were 4:3 and now its the opposite most tvs are 16:9 etc.. this is off topic but when i play css on my 52" tv i have to play it in 4:3 ( 640x480 ) because the orientation gets out of whack so to speak if i go to 1600x1200 yeah its time for an HDMI video card. but anyways... the reason i replied was the last statement it made me think about it since i have a tablet and a wireless keyboard and mouse to go with it... to use them i cannot be charging at the same time so i guess you are right portability wise... nice thought tho. if i could get a good news reader on it ( dont see any reason why not just havent looked into it yet) and use my powered hub so the hdd, keyboard, and mouse dont kill the battery on the N7 i cannot see why not ? as far as flash games i am kind of tired of those anyways.. and to replace CSS all i need is a good FPS. i already found a great one ( free) that showcases what the GPU is capable of. just need to get it working with the wiimote and im good.
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FYI - HD is anything over 720p (or 1080p depending on what you think), the ipad 4 isn't VGA. oh. and VGA is not a quality of screen, it's an output method, that can output more than 1080p funnily enough. (ok, lets assume that you mean 640x480 anyways, but the ipad still isn't that)
i find that saying 4:3 is outdated is a little silly, as it does allow you to use it in multiple orientations more easily than a 16:10 (but yeah, 16:10 is nice too for other reasons)
you can't replace a PC with a tablet. (well, not completely)
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Mr. I never expected that ur so dumb that u wont get the humor out of the vga thing. Plus vga never support more than 720 p.
Ur criticizing because u are among those who can bear change. Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority now dont say that u use a visual studio or other compilers for programming or maya and other graphic work. For that sort defintely a tablet is useless.
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I also hate this keyboard which I plan to change.
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Are you joking about the keyboard? iOS keyboard is a POS with letters that always show in upper case even when caps lock is off. They place language setting where it's easily changed by accident instead of properly separating it in settings menu. It doesn't have native swype and voice dictation is weaker.
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Are you joking about the keyboard? iOS keyboard is a POS with letters that always show in upper case even when caps lock is off. They place language setting where it's easily changed by accident instead of properly separating it in settings menu. It doesn't have native swype and voice dictation is weaker.
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Well no ****, it goes without saying that voice dictation is weaker on the iOS.
The rest really is just a matter of preference.
I find the nexus 10 keyboard to be unnecessarily cluttered.
I think the iOS keyboard works a lot better on mobile devices.
I also prefer the nexus 4 keyboard over the tablet because it's simpler and intuitive.
I don't use swype typing with two fingers is much faster for me. I've also heard that this native swype is a pos compared to the real swype.
You don't like it, you can probably change it that's the android way.
Well the book readers at still pretty helpless.
I don't get why there's so much... disapproval over the OP's decision. Buying and using a device should probably be personally enjoyable, or else you would of wasted your money right? He listed his reasons why he didn't like the Nexus 10, and purchased an iPad 4, so what? Did he spend your money? Does his decision affect you in any way? Did a car barrel roll for miles across the world killing thousands because of this decision?
Also, I think there is no "master" device or OS. Different people have different tastes and do different things, there is no 1-device/OS-fits-all, and that is a fact
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Mr. I never expected that ur so dumb that u wont get the humor out of the vga thing. Plus vga never support more than 720 p.
Ur criticizing because u are among those who can bear change. Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority now dont say that u use a visual studio or other compilers for programming or maya and other graphic work. For that sort defintely a tablet is useless.
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Firstly, your humour was pretty poor, if that.
Secondly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA "Today, the VGA analog interface is used for high definition video including 1080p and higher."
(W-W-W-W-WIKIPEDIA'D)
Thirdly, while tablets are pretty damn useful at what they do, they aren't nearly powerful enough to take over PCs (hell, they can't even do multi-windowed stuff) so if all you do is browse the web and email your buddies, then sure you can have a tablet replace a PC.
but... "Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority" is an incredibly short sighted and relatively stupid statement.
have fun storing terabytes of data on your tablet.
(p.s. is it really that difficult to structure a decent sentence with decent grammar?)
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Firstly, your humour was pretty poor, if that.
Secondly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA "Today, the VGA analog interface is used for high definition video including 1080p and higher."
(W-W-W-W-WIKIPEDIA'D)
Thirdly, while tablets are pretty damn useful at what they do, they aren't nearly powerful enough to take over PCs (hell, they can't even do multi-windowed stuff) so if all you do is browse the web and email your buddies, then sure you can have a tablet replace a PC.
but... "Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority" is an incredibly short sighted and relatively stupid statement.
have fun storing terabytes of data on your tablet.
(p.s. is it really that difficult to structure a decent sentence with decent grammar?)
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1. Proving a point using Wikipedia is... well there's a reason why Wikipedia isn't highly-regarded for 100% factual information
2. You'd be surprised how hard English might be when it's not your native language (not sure if the person's native language is or isn't language, just stating this overall)