So, these new Kernels. I've waited with installing them until they were more finished and now I was wondering how people think they are compared to the stock one.
Do they contain the same features and do all of them work?
Are they faster?
Are they stable?
Good things, bad things about upgrading?
Was thinking these things would be nice to know for everybody thinking of switching
I guess you should try one out to find out. Ofcourse they are much faster, lighter and efficient than the stock kernel. Since we are using Gingerbread now mostly, these kernels provide better support for them.
If they weren't any different from the stock kernels...why do you think devs would make them? Hope you get the message.
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I guess you should try one out to find out. Ofcourse they are much faster, lighter and efficient than the stock kernel. Since we are using Gingerbread now mostly, these kernels provide better support for them.
If they weren't any different from the stock kernels...why do you think devs would make them? Hope you get the message.
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I get the message alright, but since you have a mini and therefore have not tried the x10 mini pro kernels (which are all still quite new), it's not a fact that they are faster, lighter, more efficient or provide better support for Gingerbread.
That's why I asked for people who have tried the x10 mini pro kernels about their experiences with them. I could try it myself, but since that voids the guaranty please respect my wishes to do some research first.
one word, yes. they are better, faster, and smoother. worth doing.
I will put it this way, we had various modules to load. they are now in the kernel itself.
hardware communication is improved, and have a speed difference (very slightly i guess).
Thats all maybe.
i preffer this for mini pro phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256095&page=41
i use it too.. and my phone is like 40-50% faster with custom rom
custom kernel is a lot faster than stock kernel, very responsive.
about the stability is depends, the custom kernel is kind new to all of us and the dev is still developing their custom kernel, so bugs is still expected unless they mentioned it final release.
so the dev also encourage us to test the custom kernel, so if we found bugs and report it back, it will be contributions to the dev to make a better and bugs free kernel
Ive used both and they are great
Zombiepanic fixes the touch bug with the statusbar and stuff
D4kernel is also great but no more updates due to him leaving
Both are very stable. Havent had a random reboot and used D4's since release so ive had a long time of testing
Hope this helped
X10man
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wich is the best costum kernel for x10 mini pro??
luy991 said:
wich is the best costum kernel for x10 mini pro??
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Zombiepanic!!
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Zombiepanic!!
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+1 the best
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Use zombiepanic, standard version.. (oc version has somes bug) standard version Is too fast and stable.. !
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What is the best kernel that I can use on the generic 2.1 firmware that has WiFi and gps working?
They have not fully developed any "good" kernals yet, just alphas. It's a work in progress and do not think any are compatible with the generic 2.1
For now with your needs stock is best option. Lots more work to be done yet ;-)
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Ok just wanting to make sure because the lag gets kinda annoying.
Il be honest from my experience iv had using custom kernals, yes they do help with speed and help the phone feel less laggy but youl get much more out of flashing a custom rom with all features working, say a froyo one like zdzihu 2.2 beta 4 or wolfbreak or even miui. Custom kernals are still very much a work in progress. You could even try out some of the kernals avaible on froyo, i dont think any have been made for 2.1 yet and you may find the custom kernal may break the wifi or gps. Tbh id suggest just try changing your rom and if you need a hand flashing it or basebands iv put together a great guide in my signature
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I agree with Gingerbread Man. Most if not all 2.2 ROMs have been thoroughly developed and have been really smooth. I was running the generic 2.1 for awhile and flashing 2.2 ROMs made my life so much easier because they are really smooth with little to no errors. Try flashing a 2.2 ROM. It will be worth your while =)
I have always been confused by members who complain about the official SE firmware and the SE devs being completely incompetent and slow, when all of the custom ROMs have insufficiencies of their own and the devs are considered Gods. Especially, when our devs haven't brought us any of the major implementations themselves, like fully functional camera, 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch.
No offense to our devs, because they have limitations by bootloader, but the problem isn't just bootloader, it's having someone who can create all the drivers, which was the case before bypass.
What is important to you? Fully functional or speed? Which bugs are major? A little lag on timescape or rebooting, or a touchscreen that freezes or becomes partially unresponsive?
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I have always been confused by members who complain about the official SE firmware and the SE devs being completely incompetent and slow, when all of the custom ROMs have insufficiencies of their own and the devs are considered Gods. Especially, when our devs haven't brought us any of the major implementations themselves, like fully functional camera, 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch.
No offense to our devs, because they have limitations by bootloader, but the problem isn't just bootloader, it's having someone who can create all the drivers, which was the case before bypass.
What is important to you? Fully functional or speed? Which bugs are major? A little lag on timescape or rebooting, or a touchscreen that freezes or becomes partially unresponsive?
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Repost in general discussion i think it would be more usefull there
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Repost in general discussion i think it would be more usefull there
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It's a Question, dumby. How about an actual opinion rather than playing moderator?
Many people have questions about the differences between custom ROMs and official firmware.
What about fully functional AND fast? try wolfbreak's rom
Jokes aside, remember that SE gave up on x10 updates before going back on their decision and giving us gingerbread. And honestly, only the 2.3 custom roms don't have fully working cameras, Froyo is pretty much complete and has been my daily rom for many months now, i can't thank SE for that.
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It's a Question, dumby. How about an actual opinion rather than playing moderator?
Many people have questions about the differences between custom ROMs and official firmware.
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Okay chill out a lot of things in general section are questions not trying to “play moderator“ more people look in general discussion anyways.Just tryin to help out
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What about fully functional AND fast? try wolfbreak's rom
Jokes aside, remember that SE gave up on x10 updates before going back on their decision and giving us gingerbread. And honestly, only the 2.3 custom roms don't have fully working cameras, Froyo is pretty much complete and has been my daily rom for many months now, i can't thank SE for that.
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My confusion continues.....
There are ZERO 2.2+ ROMS that are fully functional. PERIOD.
Why do xda fanboys seem to think different?
If SE released a ROM that didn't have a fully functional camera, xda members would lose it.
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My confusion continues.....
There are ZERO 2.2+ ROMS that are fully functional. PERIOD.
Why do xda fanboys seem to think different?
If SE released a ROM that didn't have a fully functional camera, xda members would lose it.
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2,2 roms dont have camera zoom ooooh big deal
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2,2 roms dont have camera zoom ooooh big deal
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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Multitouch does
You can record audio on a lot of 2.2
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Multitouch does
You can record audio on a lot of 2.2
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Again, it is not fully functional or not working. You are the "perfect" example of xda dev "Immortality".
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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I know what your going to say to me, your thinking I'm jumping down your throat etc but you've answered your own question there. Repair with seus then root and optimise with flashtool. That way your phone will be fully functional and fast with the benefits from JIT etc. Hope this helps out
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Why not try out ericks 2.1 rom which is extremely fast, like gingerbread speeds and literally everything works. Want teether then grab barnacle for free off the market. This rom has been my daily for perhaps a week or two at a guess but you won't be disappointed with broken features etc. Trust me really worth a shot trying it out
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I know what your going to say to me, your thinking I'm jumping down your throat etc but you've answered your own question there. Repair with seus then root and optimise with flashtool. That way your phone will be fully functional and fast with the benefits from JIT etc. Hope this helps out
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Absolutely not, this is about the differences between firmware and custom ROMs. We already know the differences. I just wanted to know who is a bigger majority...fully functional vs custom ROMs.
If you or any other moron suggests that speed is the number one customer concern of software, you are STUPID.
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Absolutely not, this is about the differences between firmware and custom ROMs. We already know the differences. I just wanted to know who is a bigger majority...fully functional vs custom ROMs.
If you or any other moron suggests that speed is the number one customer concern of software, you are STUPID.
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Here I say you can have both, full functionality and speed. I edited my previous post, check over that last bit I added. Oh btw really I'm not here to make arguments etc with you just purely to offer a little advice man. Peace, no need to call me stupid etc lol
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A suggestion, if your trying to find majority between custom rom and official why not call your thread 'custom roms VS stock, votes please' or something
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Here I say you can have both, full functionality and speed. The I edited my previous post, check that last bit I added over. Oh btw really I'm not here to make arguments etc with you just purely to offer a little advice man. Peace, no need to call me stupid etc lol
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NAME ONE ROM THAT IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL, and a fast Custom ROM at same time. You are a liar.
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A suggestion, if your trying to find majority between custom rom and official why not call your thread 'custom roms VS stock, votes please' or something
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It's not about the differences between versions. It's about camera vs load speed.
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NAME ONE ROM THAT IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL, and a fast Custom ROM at same time. You are a liar.
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No, check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941745 fully functional and possibly the fastest rom out there. Camera and video recording work 100% perfect. It's a custom rom, it all works, its fast and i wish you try it out before accusing me of being a liar.
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My daily choose of rom for about 2 weeks, i left cm7 for this
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The reason Erick's rom is so speedy is that many features(which most people do not use) are disabled. Once you add them on again, the speed is comparable to stock firmware. I would say that is the closest 'custom rom' to being fully functional.
All the 2.2+ roms, while very nice and speedy, often have things that don't work.. like camera, and all of them suffer from poor battery life. A big gripe for me is the wifi disconnect issue with all 2.2 and above custom roms. I find it hard to believe that most people would prefer speed over functionality.
I've tried most of the roms out there in my year with the x10, and I always found myself coming back to stock.
And now with the arc, I don't have a choice There are no custom roms for bootloader locked arcs
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The reason Erick's rom is so speedy is that many features(which most people do not use) are disabled. Once you add them on again, the speed is comparable to stock firmware. I would say that is the closest 'custom rom' to being fully functional.
All the 2.2+ roms, while very nice and speedy, often have things that don't work.. like camera, and all of them suffer from poor battery life. A big gripe for me is the wifi disconnect issue with all 2.2 and above custom roms. I find it hard to believe that most people would prefer speed over functionality.
I've tried most of the roms out there in my year with the x10, and I always found myself coming back to stock.
And now with the arc, I don't have a choice There are no custom roms for bootloader locked arcs
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I dunno man, iv been running it in a few different versions over last couple of weeks and if you apply all extras like me id still say much faster than stock.
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It's not about the differences between versions. It's about camera vs load speed.
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I don't see either camera or load speed in your title for this thread.
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Hiya! Okay, I'm quite experienced with Android now, and I know this is a noobs question, and possibly frowned upon, but I was wondering what the best Kernel and ROM for my X10 is?
I previously used an X8 with CM7 (2.3.4) v.138 HACKDROID, and I pretty much want the same awesomeness on my X10 but better. There are a load here, and the Master Thread doesn't have any recommendations like the X8 Master Thread (which recommends HACKDROID).
I just need a few pointers and I won't post a noob question again. This is all I pretty much need to know.
Thanks
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If your into Cyanogen, check out CM7-ZMOD, butter smooth. If you want a more Sony Ericsson feel, check out Wolfs 2.3.3 rom. Again, butter smooth.
There is not really any kernel options at the moment. SE hasn't released the sources yet.
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Thanks. Yeah, its just like Hackdroid I found a 'Power to The People' Kernel by DoomLord, but it seems to turn off my signal, wifi and the USB cannot be recognised at all?
Only two quams with the ROM is lack of Governers - Not unless this Smartass one is good enough?? And the Volume in general is far too low.
Wish there was a Kernel to improve the ability even further. It's got the potential.
if you want a fast, reliable rom then j's cm7 j004 with doomlord's custom kernel can't be beat. until se release sources for gingerbread. this is the best custom setup around... in my opinion...
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Thanks. Yeah, its just like Hackdroid I found a 'Power to The People' Kernel by DoomLord, but it seems to turn off my signal, wifi and the USB cannot be recognised at all?
Only two quams with the ROM is lack of Governers - Not unless this Smartass one is good enough?? And the Volume in general is far too low.
Wish there was a Kernel to improve the ability even further. It's got the potential.
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ditto. can't wait for se to release sources! then game on!!
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ditto. can't wait for se to release sources! then game on!!
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When will they release sources?
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When will they release sources?
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Under the GPL, I believe they must be released within 15 days of launch. I'm no expert though so don't quote me.
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Under the GPL, I believe they must be released within 15 days of launch. I'm no expert though so don't quote me.
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In which part of GPL says that?
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When will they release sources?
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I'd like to know why they are holding them back....
SE does so much slimy stuff
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In which part of GPL says that?
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As I stated, I'm no expert, in fact, I could even be completely incorrect. I have however read other peoples responses to similar questions about SE releasing their kernel sources. They state that the Linux kernel sources, which are licenced under the GPL, must be disclosed within a certain period of time, which I believe to be 15 days.
Apologies for my somewhat limited knowledge about such licenses.
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No worries, I just want a confirmation. I've never heard such rule in GPL(confuses me a lot since there are variants of GPL out there).
I prefer this ROM, I'm still playing around with different one's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192326
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May I ask a noob question what difference does different kernals actually do
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If your into Cyanogen, check out CM7-ZMOD, butter smooth. If you want a more Sony Ericsson feel, check out Wolfs 2.3.3 rom. Again, butter smooth.
There is not really any kernel options at the moment. SE hasn't released the sources yet.
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Even the new Achotjan CM7 released... Just checked it now. Looks pretty awesome. I'd say try ZMOD one or The Achotjan CM7 if you are a Cynogen fan. I was using Wolf's 2.3.3 for almost two weeks now and I'd say thats the best if you dont want to use Cynogen ROM... Cheers
I'm going to give Wolf's a shot, but I really enjoyed ZMOD's, but it could be better. The HTC Mod keyboard doesn't work on it sadly. I've just resorted to using thumb keyboard, its pretty good actually
Went back to ZMOD. It's amazing. Plus, the new kernels are making it a better experience now. Its running like lightning now. And the battery has improved too. Doomlords kernel is amazing
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hi, I'm on wolf's 2.3 rom. I wanna update to v4, and update 4.0.3 is also avail, so is it mandatory to update kernel as well? do i need to wipe anything before flashing to v4?
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hi, I'm on wolf's 2.3 rom. I wanna update to v4, and update 4.0.3 is also avail, so is it mandatory to update kernel as well? do i need to wipe anything before flashing to v4?
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No you don't have to update your kernel, and no you don't have to wipe anything. The custom kernel is optional. I'm using stock kernel on 4.0.2.1 and its extremely snappy. I'm going to update to 4.0.3 tonight.
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I'm running Wolf's 4.0.3 with Stock Kernel and Undervolt Addon, running very smoothly. Juice plotter tells me 51 hours of battery after calibration and a two days running. Best ROM I've used!
I know this thread is old , but since now there are new kernels to choose from, there are certainly new answers for this thread...
So, what's the best ROM / kernel combo for you guys?
THREAD RULES: We DO NOT ask for ETA or release dates in this thread!
So it seems like everybody goes crazy when it comes to the porting of CM7. But why?
I got my hands on a SGS2 with CM7 installed. Tried it, experienced it a little. From what I experienced the CM7 wasnt something that special. I asked the owner of the phone what he though of the ROM. To my surprise he said "it's just a ROM". He also mentioned that the stock ROM was smoother.
So now I'm wondering, why all the fuzz? What are you expecting from CM7? What makes it so special and so popular?
I'm pretty sure that a lot of people who craves for the porting of CM7 has no clue of this.
(off topic: tbh, i'd rather prefer MIUI.)
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My sister's Backflip has CyanogenMod 7 installed with 2.3.3 (Not even Froyo is released in Asia-Pacific regions) , it allows her to have OC/UV kernels from 600Mhz to 748Mhz . Her phone is wayyyyy less laggier than stock .(the difference is obviously obvious)
I'm not really good on those areas but arent you able to do that using SetCPU?
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I'm not really good on those areas but arent you able to do that using SetCPU?
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he said using oc/uv.. his sister device only support 600mhz by default, but because she uses custom oc/uv kernel, she can achieve 748mhz with help of setcpu. it depends on clock stepping that were supported by kernel, not by setcpu. setcpu only help to configure those clock stepping
Oh, never knew about that. From my use of SGA 800mhz is doing alright.
And as I mentioned, not really good at those areas so I didnt even know that "oc/uv" was overclock and undervolt xD
Some bugs fixed are gonna be fixed in CM. Camera quality should be bit better. Theme engine is built into ROM, so there will be much more themes for SGA. Im also excited about haptic feedback (not sure about this one).
And much more...
What i wish most for, is fix for SoD...
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What i wish most for, is fix for SoD...
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That depends on your hardware
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I'm not really excited for cyanogenmod, but for MIUI. I want it so bad!
MiUi is cyanogen based, if I'm not wrong.
First off I'm sure in cm there will be accurate battery reporting. No ****ty jumps in percentage.
Second, if CM is under way I believe developers will include uv, through kernels or modules. Overclocking though, may not be necessary.
Other than that the rom has so many tweaks. Over time and development CM will make our original firmware outmoded because it WILL get smoother.
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I'm not really excited for cyanogenmod, but for MIUI. I want it so bad!
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The same ;x but I would try CM too !
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Speed, stability, power, eyecandy, etc, etc.
But most of all; bugfixes and much more stability compared to stock firmware, as it is said that CM7 is build from the ground up so in my eyes it won't or even can't have the flaws that stock has.
Hey, it's only my opinion.
i think it`s only way to forget about SODs
Cyanogen is popular for a few reasons. It incoporates most worthwhile mods and runs normaly as well if not better than stock. Plus for me on a personal view it will help to get miui for sga.
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Cyanogen is popular for a few reasons. It incoporates most worthwhile mods and runs normaly as well if not better than stock. Plus for me on a personal view it will help to get miui for sga.
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You gave me a reason to wait for CM7 (Y)
hahaha..if you want to know..CM is a special ROM I guess, more unlock option on kernel than stock ROM, so I can say CM is a very customizing ROM.
for a prove, u can use an app called Tasker, on that app u can get more customized settings if u using CM.
CMIIW. sorry bad english
I currently have a x10i and have had it for years now its been flashed and rooted but sometimes the phone freezes during some games ie pool break pro which is a pain also the rom development has slowed down considerable so
I have been offered a swap for a x10 mini pro but would like some advice whether its worth it and how far the device is with development I'm looking to stay on cm based roms and any downfalls of the device?
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I currently have a x10i and have had it for years now its been flashed and rooted but sometimes the phone freezes during some games ie pool break pro which is a pain also the rom development has slowed down considerable so
I have been offered a swap for a x10 mini pro but would like some advice whether its worth it and how far the device is with development I'm looking to stay on cm based roms and any downfalls of the device?
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The x10i is the 'big' experia X10. It has seen more development than it's smaller cousins (x10 mini and x10 mini pro), but i'm guessing any CM-based roms are roughly on par with what you have now. The hardware (processor, memory etc.) are roughly the same so you shouldn't expect miracles.
i know its pretty similar but the x10i ics roms has no video camera and has been the issue for nearly 6 months and that is why im kinda leaning away from the x10i are you able to tell me if the mini pro ics roms are the same and how does ics/jb roms run on mini pro
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i know its pretty similar but the x10i ics roms has no video camera and has been the issue for nearly 6 months and that is why im kinda leaning away from the x10i are you able to tell me if the mini pro ics roms are the same and how does ics/jb roms run on mini pro
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They're ok-ish, especially MiniCM10 (JB) by nobodyAtall (nAa) is pretty impressive, and he sort of managed to fix the camera and video. Not perfect, but usable at least. But if you have problems with laggy games, then ICS or JB wouldn't be the right choice anyway, because they're very memory-hungry. In that case you should stick to a GB rom, which has a lower memory footprint and uses up less cpu. GingerDX v 029 looks very ICS/JB like but is based on CM7-GB, and is very fast.
And besides that, the hardware keyboard will not work 'out of the box' on ICS or JB, there is a workaround, but you'll have to fix that yourself. There are instructions in the dev-threads on how to do that.
thank you for your reply does the mini pro use the flastool by bin4ry and androxyde the x10i uses to flash kernals and one more thing im currently on miui gb on my x10i and would like to stay on miui mainly due to the ease of customisation is there a fully working miui version available and if so what kernal and rom and any add ons would i need for everything to work
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thank you for your reply does the mini pro use the flastool by bin4ry and androxyde the x10i uses to flash kernals and one more thing im currently on miui gb on my x10i and would like to stay on miui mainly due to the ease of customisation is there a fully working miui version available and if so what kernal and rom and any add ons would i need for everything to work
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Flashtool: Yes
Miui: GB-version by Rempty seems to have reached 'just-about-perfect' status, you'll need nAa-13 or nAa-14 kernel for that. Dev-thread is here
There are (I believe) two ICS-versions too, but i think they still lack the camera-fixes and haven't been updated in a while.
Is it the Naa... for ics
Once again thanx for the advice
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Is it the Naa... for ics
Once again thanx for the advice
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No, for GB ofcourse