I was just wondering are there any graphic designers / photographers on here that would consider using a photo taken on the galaxy s2 for their professional work?
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I suspect that they would given that the photo was well taken, because the camera is pretty good if you ask me
I've done some professional photography work. SGS2 photos, well taken (as Regretful mentioned) , could definitely be offered professionally.
Well it depends what for, and frankly no, not really . For stuff like newspaper editorial or web use it might just about do. However for anything like proper advertising, event photography or landscape/travel stuff erm no, no chance ever. It's a decent enough point and shoot but that's it... tiny sensor, no proper manual controls, no lenses, no off-shoe flash, it would also never survive the sort of use we put our gear through and I could go on and on and on...
Thanks for the replies, that gives me something to go on. I'm a graphic/packaging/web designer myself and I'm looking to advance my photography skills. I just needed to get past the mental block that if a photo opertunity presented itself when I didn't have my DSLR camera on me, then it wasn't worthwhile taking my galaxy s2 out of my pocket. Perhaps for some things it may just about do
Does anyone know of any good photography communities on the web?
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How a Mobile camera and the word Professional goes together?
I'm not sure that's why I'm asking here, I suppose there is that age old saying that 'it's not the camera but the person behind the camera that counts'. I do remember seeing however a news story a while back about a older well respected world class photographer who was doing a photo shoot with a mobile phone and I'm sure the mobile he used wasn't a scratch on the galaxy s2.
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You'd be much better served by pretty much any digital compact. The S2 has an OK camera for quick snaps and what not, but it's still a phone camera with all the limitations that implies.
prove the doubters wrong! post something epic
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prove the doubters wrong! post something epic
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Forget looking on a screen, most stuff looks ok - the real test would be printing A2 or double-page mag spread...
theinstagator said:
I just needed to get past the mental block that if a photo opertunity presented itself when I didn't have my DSLR camera on me, then it wasn't worthwhile taking my galaxy s2 out of my pocket. Perhaps for some things it may just about do
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Now that's different better to have some pictures than none if you come across something you think is worth shooting, and in this case I wouldn't hesitate to use the phone but for a paid job, I'll stick to the proper gear
Mmm I feel a challenge coming on ;-)
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I'm a web designer, jux got my SGS II for 3rd weeks, for me, I wont consider using it as Professional Camera use.. the camera more like the snapshot, compact-kind of camera for me..
or maybe anyone here can intro some nice apps for it "transform" into a professional camera?
www .goo .gl/qddv7
There's your answer, an album containing photographs taken with an iphone!
The book btw is widely available - printed or as a virtual print, so here you see the golden rule for success in photography still applies:
1. To be there = 75%
2. To know how = 20%
3. To have the gear = 5%
So the gear - an iphone, sgs2, nokia 3210 (if it had a camera), canon 5dmkII - practically doesn't matter! It's you, your skills, knowledge etc.. makes the difference.
If you know your gear's strenghts and weaknesses (huge depth of field for instance) you may actually use it to your favour.
So go and shoot, shoot, shoot!
All the best.
chalger
chalger said:
www .goo .gl/qddv7
There's your answer, an album containing photographs taken with an iphone!
The book btw is widely available - printed or as a virtual print, so here you see the golden rule for success in photography still applies:
1. To be there = 75%
2. To know how = 20%
3. To have the gear = 5%
So the gear - an iphone, sgs2, nokia 3210 (if it had a camera), canon 5dmkII - practically doesn't matter! It's you, your skills, knowledge etc.. makes the difference.
If you know your gear's strenghts and weaknesses (huge depth of field for instance) you may actually use it to your favour.
So go and shoot, shoot, shoot!
All the best.
chalger
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Interesting....can you post that link again please? I'd like to take a look.....
chalger said:
1. To be there = 75%
2. To know how = 20%
3. To have the gear = 5%
So the gear - an iphone, sgs2, nokia 3210 (if it had a camera), canon 5dmkII - practically doesn't matter! It's you, your skills, knowledge etc.. makes the difference.
If you know your gear's strenghts and weaknesses (huge depth of field for instance) you may actually use it to your favour.
So go and shoot, shoot, shoot!
All the best.
chalger
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You can take a good picture with any camera - that much is true. However what we are discussing here is professional use to earn a living... and a mobile will just not do.
For example, I used to shoot a lot of motosport... your mobile will not have the reach, your mobile will not be able to focus fast enough and keep focus, your mobile will not survive long if you have to shoot in the rain all day, your mobile will not survive long if you have to take close to 1000 pictures in a day. How are you going to have decent pictures if you cannot manually change your settings for example if there's big dark clouds overhead, cars have headlights on and to get a good exposure you're going to need to shoot 800 f2.8 iso 800?
Then you have to look at the actual quality of the pictures (not whether it's a good shot or not) and what it's going to be used for.
And then there's the fact that earning your living from photography isn't about taking the best picture in the world every time you press the shutter, it's about delivering what your client requires every time without fail. You simply cannot say that you can't do x or y shot because your phone camera isn't capable of delivering what they want.
I whished to repost the asked link but the weird policy of this site does not agree with it ;-) (as it is also not possible for newcomers to post on the real forums of their concern ! Never seen this before )
Anyway it seems to me obvious that the number 1 quality of a recording device is to be available when you need it... professionnal or not
picture quality is an issue but the one of SGS2 is very good. Better than many compact dedicated cameras
Very big no from me...
1. No aperture control on it (as with all android cam s/w, not open or I would have made an app ) (or shutter time etc)
2. Dire stop range in latitude of the image (compensated for with f/w by quite harsh contrast i think)
3. No RAW image data, be pointless with the sensor neways
4. No Focus control (control does not = touch the screen )
5. No external flash or way to sync to external flashes with speeeeeed
There are loads more, but they are my top 5
Thanks for all your options and the link, it's certainly given me some food for thought I think what I had in mind was an image no larger than A5, maybe A4 max to be used along side my graphics. If anything it will give me an excuse to practice my composition and for more advanced things and paid work my DSLR will be there.
Does anyone know of any good photography forums/communities they could point me to? This has given me an idea to see how good of an image I can catch with the gs2. If I get anything I think could be worthwhile I'll post it here and if anyone else is up for it I'll be very interested in what they can achieve. All the best, happy snapping
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Oh ****, I know some photography-addicts that don't want to hear anything about photo's made by mobile phones. Nothing compares to a good quality camera with huge lenses that allow you to change the focus.
I do have to say playing with the focus on one of those cameras sure looks badass and makes the picture speak a lot more.
So I am not sure what exactly happened to this discussion but I was wondering if there was any one trying to figure out how to get 1080p video recording possible on our phones? I believe our hardware is capable of shooting in 1080p but for some reason was left out last minute. Would this be able to happen via a custom kernel? I apologize if this was resolved a while ago but I just haven't seen any recent threads about this.
this phone can barely pull off 720p video capture very smooth..If 1080p recording is to come to our Evo3D's it will be something from HTC..
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this phone can barely pull off 720p video capture very smooth..If 1080p recording is to come to our Evo3D's it will be something from HTC..
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Why do you say that? HTC was not able to get the original EVO past 30fps, the developers figured it out before them. HTC was also not able to get full HDMI mirroring on the original EVO before the developers figured it out. For a long time the EVO 3D was listed as being able to capture in 1080p, then suddenly days before released it was changed. Our processors ARE capable of shooting in 1080p.
Since the camera is controlled by software, you would need a 3rd party app that was written to do 1080, and that app would have to integrate with other phone systems, such as video and processor... So..i guess we wait untill someone gets the motivation to write it...
I hope 1080p can be made possible on this phone. I feel the hardware should be able to handle it, especially the CPU. Though the quality of the camera sensor and optics seems to be a bit lacking at least at first glance. I bet with some improved software, it should be possible to squeeze out more from our rear cameras.
Htc did this for a reason...therefore im 99% sure it is not possible.
Hopefully the reason was simply that they didn't have time to finalize any loose ends...
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Hopefully the reason was simply that they didn't have time to finalize any loose ends...
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Thats like very unlikely...but well it would be great.
Hi All,
I'm new to the Android world, but since I get by banging out code for a living, and have a penchant for photography in my free time, I was hoping to toy around with the camera software a little to see if it could be improved.
Basically, given the specs of the lens and the device (which, while obviously not specialized hardware, crushes my SLR in terms of raw processing power), I see no reason as to why it has to take two-to-three seconds between shots (fixable by buffering the writes methinks), or roughly a second to autofocus (the issue...).
Which brings me to the heart of my question: the Android SDK (and, I'm assuming NDK, though I haven't toyed with that yet) only interfaces the camera firmware, ie., I can do something really basic like takePicture, but I can't really delve into the nuts-and-bolts of that process.
Assuming the nitty gritty would be located as a driver/firmware in the kernal, I downloaded the source for my phone. It appears that most of the drivers are precompiled .bin's, and I can't seem to find the source for those. The manufacturer is a bit sparse in providing the actual specifics of the camera hardware so I could dig out the manufacturer's docs, and I'm hesitant to disassemble my phone for something which may or may not even be worthwhile.
Is there a way for me to assert low level control over the camera? Would I need to rewrite the firmware from scratch? Has anyone toyed with this kind of thing and can offer some insight?
Your help is most appreciated! Thanks!
I'd like to see something like this possible.
My previous phones were almost like SLR's in comparison to what I have now ( k750i, k800i and even the dreaded P1i versus Gio ) despite the same or even lower Mpix count. The pics produced by Gio are simply awful in terms of everything except the color representation.
What I'd like to have, is the ability to manually adjust ISO and exposure times. Tried most available apps, but the outcome still is *sigh*...
Indeed, everything I've seen in the market pertaining to the camera appears to be "post processing" of the raw image. My hope was rather to optimize/tweak/flat-out-rewrite the image capture itself (AF, AE, WB, ISO, drive, metering and the like) to allow for something a little more robust (and in my case, speedy).
But given that I haven't been able to dig much up on the topic, I'm guessing that this is tied into the firmware (making a universal solution difficult), and I'm further guessing that the camera firmware may, in general, be closed source.
My hope is that someone with a little more experience than moi can confirm?
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I made this using my 3D printer and CNC machine. I wonder if there is any real demand for these kits. Check out my pics...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gt35pro/7169243908/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gt35pro/7169243676/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gt35pro/7193098926/
I was using the LG Camera Pro for shooting video and it is really good with many camcorder features including locked focus.
Swish! Nicely done. Would love one of those. H'much to mock another up and send it to Ireland?
Also, thats something that strikes me, there are hundreds if not thousands of camera apps, but like no video ones.
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Swish! Nicely done. Would love one of those. H'much to mock another up and send it to Ireland?
Also, thats something that strikes me, there are hundreds if not thousands of camera apps, but like no video ones.
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Yeah, mostly camera apps for still pictures and almost nothing for video recording. As I have tested, lgcamerapro is really good and that is only the only one worth using. The rest of them are either camera shortcuts or worse than the built in camera app.
Will pm you regarding the camcorder kit. Don't want to get banned.
I'm not knowledgeable in this area but is it possible to develop a camera app completely separate from stock that allows for DSLR like control and save codec change?
The reason I ask is that if the camera's sensor can do 4k resolution then it should see everything in 4:4:4 detail instead of the H.264's 4:2:0
As a film hobbyist I supplement my main gear with my phone camera at times. This phone's camera possibly opens soooo many more avenues for indie and hobbyists. Not so much a samsung gimmick if we can actually put it to good use.
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I'm not knowledgeable in this area but is it possible to develop a camera app completely separate from stock that allows for DSLR like control and save codec change?
The reason I ask is that if the camera's sensor can do 4k resolution then it should see everything in 4:4:4 detail instead of the H.264's 4:2:0
As a film hobbyist I supplement my main gear with my phone camera at times. This phone's camera possibly opens soooo many more avenues for indie and hobbyists. Not so much a samsung gimmick if we can actually put it to good use.
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There are a few guys that specialize in adjusting camera settings and options.
There is a really popular guy over at the lg g2 forums. I would recommend we wait til they come over or ask some of them to check out our camera.
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Is there anyone else knowledgeable in this subject or possibly something new I've not come across?