Is there a way to increase my RAM memory? I tried partition SD but it just increases my internal memory..
Thank you in advanced!
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maybe it have a software on market but i dont remember it
Nope. From the factory we have a misleading 512mb. I say that due to the fact that something like 170mb is automatically eaten up by the Android system. Leaving us with a meager 340mb. In the beginning kernel makers were tweaking the amount we had available but it left other things broken. We can never have more ram available without ruining other processes. And adding a new chip of ram like a pc is absolutely out of the question. May I ask why do you need more ram? Are your homescreens widget city? I've needed to compromise which widgets I use but thanks to circle launcher makes it not half bad.
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One of the things that I do when I flash a new ROM is delete all the /system/apps that I do not use. Well, delete isn't really the right word. I move them over to a folder on my external, so just in case I ever want to reinstall them, I can just move them back to /system/app, wipe Dalvik and reboot and viola they are there. Another thing that I also do is if I don't know about a certain app and what it does, I'll use TBPro to freeze it and wait for a few days to see if there are any adverse effect. If not, then I'll uninstall, If so, then I will defrost and make note.
The reason I mention this is, aside from being in widget/homescreen hell, there are system apps that you may not need/use that are running and taking up unneccessary RAM. Example: If you never use Maps, then move it out and that service (locator- I think it is) won't be running in the background.
There are times that I opened a lot of apps,some still runs in background even if i already closed it and it decreases the performance of my phone.. I have a friend who have a Samsung Ace and he was able to add up memory of his ram..I did the same thing and it just adds up on my internal SD... just wondering if that is something to do with tweaking.. by the way I'm on MIUI
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There are times that I opened a lot of apps,some still runs in background even if i already closed it and it decreases the performance of my phone.. I have a friend who have a Samsung Ace and he was able to add up memory of his ram..I did the same thing and it just adds up on my internal SD... just wondering if that is something to do with tweaking.. by the way I'm on MIUI
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Any of the "hacks" to get more memory on this phone will result in either lower performance or breaking something or both. That's why there's not anything around for "increasing" memory.
Any by the way, he probably added a swap partition on his phone, which NONE of the roms for vibrant support/have implemented.
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Well try what I do. Im using startup manager and blocking which apps are allowed to startup without me starting them. Start up cleaner is free and appears to do the same thing. Much better than freezing in titanium because they are still useable. A VERY few apps might start up anyway but who cares you will be in much better shape overall.
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So I rooted my phone got lagfix.. And mu phone has been very glitchy...getting stuck on screen.. Touch screen sometimes stops working... Sometimes I programs force close themselves... So I started removing bloatware vz crap tetris n4s.. I'm benchmarking 2155 but its like the phone ran better b4.. I've notice my ram is sometimes droping down to like 50 60 left.. So I task manager and end all apps.. And advances task killer end everything.. And my ran avl. Goes to like 136 and in five minutes its back down to 50 60.. What is going on?
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So I rooted my phone got lagfix.. And mu phone has been very glitchy...getting stuck on screen.. Touch screen sometimes stops working... Sometimes I programs force close themselves... So I started removing bloatware vz crap tetris n4s.. I'm benchmarking 2155 but its like the phone ran better b4.. I've notice my ram is sometimes droping down to like 50 60 left.. So I task manager and end all apps.. And advances task killer end everything.. And my ran avl. Goes to like 136 and in five minutes its back down to 50 60.. What is going on?
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Dont run task managers for one. And anytime you have > 40mb of ram, you should be fine. Try removing the lag fix and see where you are at after that. then try removing root. If this doesnt fix your issues take it back to VZW.
I'm not trying to argue.. But why shouldn't I use task killers? And my phone came with a task manager?
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I had the same problem, not after rooting, but after doing the lag fix. I removed the lag fix this morning, and so far it's been all smooth sailing. The screen responds as it should, no lockups, no FCs.
Im a little sluggish too after root. No force closes but laggy when scrolling. Whether its changing screens or scrolling web pages. Not too bad just annoying since it was good before root. Lag fix didnt help so I deleted it, but I may try it again. So sure of the problem.
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ok.. well im going 2 try 2 remove tthe lagfix.. should i completely unistall it or just bring up the program and select remove lag fix.. does anyone know what it does exzactly?
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I'm not trying to argue.. But why shouldn't I use task killers? And my phone came with a task manager?
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This may sound confusing and its so hard to explain, especially with just text but I'll try to explain the best I can.
Let's say android os is a chalk board and when you open an app the os writes on the board, some apps he writes more than others. The more Ram you ha e the bigger your chalk board. Now when the os gets to the end of the chalk board it simply erases what it wrote at the top and writes in its place and keeps going.
When you kill the tasks you are erasing the whole board that the os wrote on. So now the os has to rewrite what you erased ( killing battery and taking time) and im assuming after you kill apps you are opening another so its trying to write with two hands (multi tasking) and making it seem to run slower.
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Also just plain rooting shouldn't do anything to make your phone run different, honestly it must be the "lag fix" that is messing things up. A good quadrant score doesn't mean a faster phone
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thanks wisenick.. that def makes sense... with your chalk board explination..lol.. and what exzactly is my quadrant score then? and what does lag fix do???
This is a good example of why quadrant scores mean very little in the real world... Im not entirely sure what the lagfix does, it obviously has to do with the on board memory and data. The memory scores in Quadrant skyrocket after the fix because whatever test it does is largely effected by the lagfix. But this doesn't mean that the phone will perform better, quite the opposite in my experience. The lag fix did nothing but make my phone lag and give me and huge quadrant score. Ill take stable real world usage and low quadrant score...
im with you on that on.. 4 sure... so do i just load up lagfix and click uninstall to get rid of it??? or is there some other way.. ive read of ppl doing it that way.. and not getting there memory back?
Removing the lag fix helped me a lot, but I still noticed the unlock screen would hang up a little. I just did a factory data reset, and wow! Everything seems to be working like a well oiled machine. And for those who are wondering, doing the data reset will not unroot your phone.
Will it bring back al ln the bloatware I got rid of? And how do I do it
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Another thing I haven't had 3g since I got rid of the bloat ware
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Will it bring back al ln the bloatware I got rid of? And how do I do it
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Another thing I haven't had 3g since I got rid of the bloat ware
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No it won't bring back the bloatware, either. You will, however, lose all your widgets, and have to set up your screens, again.
Menu>Settings>Privacy>Factory Data Reset
Ill give it a shot thanks man... And 3g its currently down in my area
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OK, we are supposed to have like a huge amount of memory for the 3D but when I check my task manager I have like about 80 to 100 free. Is that normal? I do have a task manager, memory optimization, and this is still going on.
Thoughts?
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OK, we are supposed to have like a huge amount of memory for the 3D but when I check my task manager I have like about 80 to 100 free. Is that normal? I do have a task manager, memory optimization, and this is still going on.
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Only use the task manager that is pre installed on the phone. Also you have 1gb to play with why not use it
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Only use the task manager that is pre installed on the phone. Also you have 1gb to play with why not use it
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Why only the one with the phone? That doesn't give you much flexibility. It simply allows you to kill running applications.. And you have to do it manually.
Any other thoughts to get my memory up? It's just weird that i have 1gb oh memory, the same amount of software as i did my evo4g and I still only have the same amount of memory free as i did the evo4g.
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Why only the one with the phone? That doesn't give you much flexibility. It simply allows you to kill running applications.. And you have to do it manually.
Any other thoughts to get my memory up? It's just weird that i have 1gb oh memory, the same amount of software as i did my evo4g and I still only have the same amount of memory free as i did the evo4g.
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Because other task managers and such mess with the system. the stock one works great and kills things when it needs to. nothing wrong with all your apps running, if you need more memory it will kill whatever is open that you are using the least. makes your phone faster because you dont have to re load everything all the time
Android manages memory on its own and is a lot different than say how Windows handles it. I'll try to explain this, but my explanation will probably be a little simplified.
First, Sense 3.0 uses more memory to begin with and secondly there was reports of the Evo 3D reporting used/available memory slightly incorrect but I don't remember if that was confirmed or how far off it was.
As for Android, to keep the phone optimized for performance and battery, it keeps apps stored in memory - seemingly as much as it can to an extent. The apps don't run, they're just preloaded. This also allows those apps to do their thing if needed (update information every so often for example).
Since they're not exactly running and just sitting in memory, they have minimal drain on the battery. If you have a more detailed task manager, you'll see CPU usage is sitting around 0% for everything that's open.
While Android manages its own memory, when one app closes, it most likely will open another to keep loaded. The problem with using task managers to keep your memory free is that most of the time you're fighting the system. Close one app, another or the same one loads again. It drains more battery opening/closing constantly than to just leave it sit.
I think the only reason a task manager should be used ever is to close a rogue app - one that can't/won't close and is just working the CPU.
I think the suggestion to just use the stock one is so you don't set anything up that would fight the system or close something the core system needs running.
Hell, I have around 100MB showing free and the phone still flies. Android doesn't need to keep so much memory free like Windows does.
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Why only the one with the phone? That doesn't give you much flexibility. It simply allows you to kill running applications.. And you have to do it manually.
Any other thoughts to get my memory up? It's just weird that i have 1gb oh memory, the same amount of software as i did my evo4g and I still only have the same amount of memory free as i did the evo4g.
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gk1984 summed it up pretty well for you. Here is an article if you have interest in reading a little. http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Just stick with the built in task killer, and let android manage it's memory. As has been noted, the reason that you have such a huge amount of your memory being used up is simple: Sense 3.0 uses a ton of resources, period. When we get an AOSP rom on this thing, install that. I guarantee we will have 700mb or more free memory. Sense is nice, but a resource hog none the less.
I did my first ROM and battery update with NonS3ns3 V2.0. All went fine.
I was surprised to see less than 200MB of memory free after the upgrade. I thought one of the benefits of this ROM was that I would be seeing closer to 300 MB of memory free.
I am not using ADW. Currently I have Go Launcher for my front end. Could that be the issue?
Any suggestions?
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I did my first ROM and battery update with NonS3ns3 V2.0. All went fine.
I was surprised to see less than 200MB of memory free after the upgrade. I thought one of the benefits of this ROM was that I would be seeing closer to 300 MB of memory free.
I am not using ADW. Currently I have Go Launcher for my front end. Could that be the issue?
Any suggestions?
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Unused memory is wasted memory. The goal is to use as much as possible while keeping a reserve free for any app that might be opened.
Go launcher is not the issue. I have near 350-400mb on boot with CM7 and I use it (and it's set to stay in memory).
However, as stated previously, if you're not using your ram it's going to waste and I still wouldnt' care if I only had 200mb free. It's not like on windows where you have to start closing stuff to get the ram back. If you start running out, it'll just start closing apps you're not using for you. I wouldn't worry about it. As much as my ram miser instincts want to kick in (because I started out on computers when 8-16mb of ram was a lot ), I just tell that urge to STFU because it's a dumb idea.
I usually have about 240MB free right after boot and that quickly dwindles down to about 140MB to 160MB. That really is plenty for just about anything you're going to make the phone do at any particular moment. When you think about it, an entire Sense ROM couldn't fill all the memory available, much less AOSP. There's caches and other files taking up the rest of the space, which is good because that's less data pulled from eMMC. Addressing eMMC eat a lot of power. Some of the kernel devs have some good info on how their kernels work and how to tweak them to free up more or less memory. It is possible to script the kernel to much more aggressively free up memory, but typically that will hurt performance.
Thanks for the replies. I am new to Android (2 weeks) so still trying to figure out a few things. I am coming from the old school where more free memory was always a good thing so that new apps would start faster.
I am really surprised by how many apps are running in the background on there own such as Whitepages, News, XDA, Weather, Amazon App store, My Verizon, etc. Why are all these apps running? I cant see why the Amazon App store app needs to be running unless I am using it.
I have seen some tools that can be set up to automatically kill some of these apps. Is it worth it? Which one do you reccommend?
I use this and its fantastic. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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swieder711 said:
Thanks for the replies. I am new to Android (2 weeks) so still trying to figure out a few things. I am coming from the old school where more free memory was always a good thing so that new apps would start faster.
I am really surprised by how many apps are running in the background on there own such as Whitepages, News, XDA, Weather, Amazon App store, My Verizon, etc. Why are all these apps running? I cant see why the Amazon App store app needs to be running unless I am using it.
I have seen some tools that can be set up to automatically kill some of these apps. Is it worth it? Which one do you reccommend?
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Amazon apps, in general, are abuse to resources. Not sure what to tell you about killing it, because killing it is just going to make it restart again, and that's going to eat more battery than letting it just suck up space.
It's not so much the apps on Amazon as the Amazon App itself and how they implement things. Amazon has some crappy DRM for their apps (if the developer decides they want it). Basically means it checks a lot to see if you're online and allowed to use the application (but does so way more than it needs). Some apps have problems or did with working in airplane mode because of that.
It also thinks you have a new phone nearly 100% of the time when you flash a new rom or update your current one. You can log into your amazon account on your PC and find out how many "phones" you have under your account settings for their apps. Each added phone basically causes the app to flip out more and cause more problems, so deleting the extra ones is a good idea.
Other apps will not work without the Amazon store installed, which is a poorly coded piece of crap as well that won't work if you try to modify the contents of the apk.
Also, a lot of those apps running in the background are not really taking up resources, they're just keeping a bare minimum loaded into memory and the rest is cached. They do that so they can load up quickly (like the browser, maps, etc).
I've been on BAMF forever for a few days now, and I typically have only 90-100MB of free RAM. It has been absolutely smooth as can be with no lag. I can open an app, use it for a bit, and then hit home so I can open another app to check on something, and the first app stays in memory just as it should.
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Thanks for the feedback. I have removed Amazon from my Tbolt.
It still bothers me to see all those other apps being loaded in the background without asking first. It's like my 17 yo daughter leaving her stuff around the house. It just seems disrespectful of the common spaces.
swieder711 said:
Thanks for the feedback. I have removed Amazon from my Tbolt.
It still bothers me to see all those other apps being loaded in the background without asking first. It's like my 17 yo daughter leaving her stuff around the house. It just seems disrespectful of the common spaces.
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you'll get used to it. just pretend they're not really open (well most really aren't open, so I guess you dont totally have to pretend, haha)
Just what it says. I've had my Galaxy S3 for 4 days and I've noticed that I only ever have about 100mbs (out of 800) free on my phone at any one time.
On my SGS2 I have over 300mb even with many games/apps running.
Sure my SGS3 is far faster than my SGS2 but when it comes to Web surfing and watching flash videos on pages, as well as just browsing around the home screen sometimes the phone gets so low on memory that it just starts to randomly kill apps that I have open. Apps like: Avast (which I don't use for the Anti-virus but for the extensive Anti-theft protection), Viber - which I use for making and receiving VoIP calls and Tasker. Which I use for automating things.
Surely a phone like this needs RAM I'm sure. But leaving me with just 100mbs spare for everything else can't be right can it?
I don't have many things running. Just the normal stuff. The main point is that my SGS2 could easily handle all this.
Anyone else having the same problem? Is there anything I can do? I use the Opera Mobile (not lite) browser.
I'd be happy to provide more information if needed. I'm pretty gutted over this. Battery life is lovely but the phone's performance grinds to a total halt when it clears its RAM... Which I never did manually on my SGS2 because it drains battery when it caches everything instantly again anyway.
Thanks so much in advance.
P.S. I can't find a 'task manager' app anywhere. I know if hold down the home button that I can access the task manager by pressing 'task manager' but that doesn't show me anything useful like what the SGS2 does. I can't exit apps or see how much RAM and CPU they are using or anything. Does the SGS3 really not have this option??
Touchwiz for s3 is heavy! Normally you shouldn't worry about ram on Android but touchwiz is really little much... I would recommend cm9 maybe.. Lightweight and fast
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Free ram is wasted ram, that is all
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Hey thanks a lot for your reply!
I will never be flashing a custom Rom over this phone. I like it the way that it is. I'm using Nova Launcher not TwLauncher.
Surely touchwiz can't be that big of a RAM hog. I have 4.0.3 on my SGS2 how can 4.0.4 be so much worse?
Edit: Obviously free RAM is wasted RAM but did you even read my post at all??? My phone keeps running out of RAM and killing apps, then reloading them instantly which slows down my phone to a halt and excessively drains my battery...
Ram handling is clearly flawed in SGS 3, lets hope the is no HW bug.
Hopefully future updates will fix the leaking memory.
Does people think that android is windows, or why someone allways complain about low ram? People, please learn how android ram management really works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813018&highlight=memory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620&highlight=memory
Search a bit more next time. Read these threads and you will know why it is silly to want more free RAM.
leijonasisu said:
Hey thanks a lot for your reply!
I will never be flashing a custom Rom over this phone. I like it the way that it is. I'm using Nova Launcher not TwLauncher.
Surely touchwiz can't be that big of a RAM hog. I have 4.0.3 on my SGS2 how can 4.0.4 be so much worse?
Edit: Obviously free RAM is wasted RAM but did you even read my post at all??? My phone keeps running out of RAM and killing apps, then reloading them instantly which slows down my phone to a halt and excessively drains my battery...
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What are you even doing here? I'm running custom rom and the killing of apps is gone.
To those people spamming about "free ram is wasted ram" that is true BUT samsung set their priorities wrong to start killing apps you use, since touchwiz is pretty big it kills the apps you need instead. On cm9 the ram can be used for cache for stuff you actually need and use. This dude having issues with multitasking due to bad priorities wich is solved by mods / custom roms.. If you not are willing to try that I have no clue why you ask in xda for help.
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Just what it says. I've had my Galaxy S3 for 4 days and I've noticed that I only ever have about 100mbs (out of 800) free on my phone at any one time.
On my SGS2 I have over 300mb even with many games/apps running.
Sure my SGS3 is far faster than my SGS2 but when it comes to Web surfing and watching flash videos on pages, as well as just browsing around the home screen sometimes the phone gets so low on memory that it just starts to randomly kill apps that I have open. Apps like: Avast (which I don't use for the Anti-virus but for the extensive Anti-theft protection), Viber - which I use for making and receiving VoIP calls and Tasker. Which I use for automating things.
Surely a phone like this needs RAM I'm sure. But leaving me with just 100mbs spare for everything else can't be right can it?
I don't have many things running. Just the normal stuff. The main point is that my SGS2 could easily handle all this.
Anyone else having the same problem? Is there anything I can do? I use the Opera Mobile (not lite) browser.
I'd be happy to provide more information if needed. I'm pretty gutted over this. Battery life is lovely but the phone's performance grinds to a total halt when it clears its RAM... Which I never did manually on my SGS2 because it drains battery when it caches everything instantly again anyway.
Thanks so much in advance.
P.S. I can't find a 'task manager' app anywhere. I know if hold down the home button that I can access the task manager by pressing 'task manager' but that doesn't show me anything useful like what the SGS2 does. I can't exit apps or see how much RAM and CPU they are using or anything. Does the SGS3 really not have this option??
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Maybe free ram in android is wasted ram, but only if the ram is used for USEFUL apps. Samsung have made a lot of stupid apps run in the background at all time, like softwareupdate, Chaton, some clud service process, AllShare Service, and a lot more (google maps also run at any given time, eating 30 mb of ram). All of this apps run in the background and take up a lot of ram, even tho I NEVER use this apps. All of these running apps, prevent the apps that I USE from being kept in the ram, and thus leads to a longer load time (f.x. Handcent SMS take a sec or 2 to load if it is not already loaded in the ram). What I did was to download Autostarts from the market and prevent these apps from starting up by themself, and thus I made room for the apps I use to be kept in the ram. However, be carefull, disabling apps from starting up (especially system apps), can cause problems!
Lennyuk said:
Free ram is wasted ram, that is all
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If someone has 300MB free ram and is asking about freeing up more ram this makes sense.
If free ram is always <100mb then there's a memory management problem.
OP try disabling unused apps in the app manager, streamline startup apps and use gemini to turn off auto launching of unneeded apps.
On stock I used to have about 150-200MB free ram at boot. With CM9 and 10 i get 300-400MB free RAM at boot.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Simple question for Google
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Hey thanks a lot for your reply!
I will never be flashing a custom Rom over this phone. I like it the way that it is. I'm using Nova Launcher not TwLauncher.
Surely touchwiz can't be that big of a RAM hog. I have 4.0.3 on my SGS2 how can 4.0.4 be so much worse?
Edit: Obviously free RAM is wasted RAM but did you even read my post at all??? My phone keeps running out of RAM and killing apps, then reloading them instantly which slows down my phone to a halt and excessively drains my battery...
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Just freeze all of the bloatware. Install a good custom kernel (eg Siyah) and move on! No one to blame but yourself for not doing that or wanting to.
Android is doing its job just fine with memory. It's just bogged down by Samsung and vendor crapware.
Be lucky you ain't in the US, DHS big brother software becoming mandatory soon lol
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813018&highlight=memory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620&highlight=memory
Search a bit more next time. Read these threads and you will know why it is silly to want more free RAM.
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mant thanks for your post, wasn't awared about this 2 topics... :good:
dfMails said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Simple question for Google
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This has nothing to do with the issues op is facing, stop spamming all these in threads without reading the op at least.. I'm not talking to you directly but to everyone that just reads topic and "free ram wasted ram!"
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This has nothing to do with the issues op is facing, stop spamming all these in threads without reading the op at least.. I'm not talking to you directly but to everyone that just reads topic and "free ram wasted ram!"
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Tell me about it. Ive been here a week n already sick of all the 'You're a noob we're better than you' bs :-/
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Ram handling is clearly flawed in SGS 3, lets hope the is no HW bug.
Hopefully future updates will fix the leaking memory.
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I can see that from just normal use. If any webpage is open with any sort of flash container my SGS3 just starts killing background apps and throwing "Low RAM" errors. I wonder if Jelly Bean will fix this issue?
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Does people think that android is windows, or why someone allways complain about low ram? People, please learn how android ram management really works.
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Excuse me but not everyone who asks questions in the XDA forums are idiots. I don't know what's with the attitude here of everyone with a couple of hundred posts but I'm not impressed. Knowing how RAM management works has NOTHING to do with this thread. The complaint in question here is that my phone is constantly running out of RAM and when it does it starts to kill background apps to free RAM which in turn grinds my phone down to a halt, and drains the battery excessively. Are you just here to get your post count up or something?
tsangwc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813018&highlight=memory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620&highlight=memory
Search a bit more next time. Read these threads and you will know why it is silly to want more free RAM.
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UGHHHH!!! READ WHOLE DAMN POST! NOT JUST THE THREAD LINE.. I don't care about if my phone has 3MB of RAM free all the time or not as long as it works without a hitch, what I care about is that my phone is killing background apps that I need open and then constantly reloading them over and over when I'm web browsing and sometimes when I'm just at the home-screen.
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What are you even doing here? If you not are willing to try that I have no clue why you ask in xda for help.
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XDA isn't just about modding/using custom roms etc. There are multiple sections on the forums here for discussion about other topics. Including asking general questions about the device... I use ROMs on my other phones where I can because I love them and I don't mind the constant updating I have to do. But on this phone, I don't want to use partially-unstable roms that require me to constantly flash my phone over and over again just to get features that are already working fine in the general release version. There is no guarantee that this problem will be fixed in a rom anyway and some of us don't like breaking our warranty. Even if it's child's-play to return the phone back to stock settings and renew the warranty.
kbkrogs said:
Maybe free ram in android is wasted ram, but only if the ram is used for USEFUL apps. Samsung have made a lot of stupid apps run in the background at all time, like software update, Chaton, some clud service process, AllShare Service, and a lot more (google maps also run at any given time, eating 30 mb of ram).
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I've frozen all of these... 'Talkback, OTA Updates, Bluetooth (I never use it) as well as turned off NFC and a bunch of other things etc. etc. etc. I don't have that much running in the background but my phone still bounces between 330MBs (after killing everything) of free RAM and under >90. (2 mins later after everything has reloaded) To which it then starts throwing warnings and killing apps I need.
jbonetwo said:
If someone has 300MB free ram and is asking about freeing up more ram this makes sense.
If free ram is always <100mb then there's a memory management problem.
OP try disabling unused apps in the app manager, streamline startup apps and use gemini to turn off auto launching of unneeded apps.
On stock I used to have about 150-200MB free ram at boot. With CM9 and 10 i get 300-400MB free RAM at boot.
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^This. THANKYOU! Finally someone who didn't just read the tagline and post stupid retorts like "This isn't Windows" etc. I thought I was being plenty clear enough when I stated that the problem I was talking about was the fact that the phone goes from blisteringly fast, to painstakingly slow whilst browsing.
Disabling ALL addons (Javascript, Flash etc). from running while browsing stops this from happening 99.9% of the time. I also removed Tasker, much to my displeasure and froze a few more apps and it seems to happen less now but I'm still hovering around the 'workable' part of my phone. Which makes me feel a bit displeased because I didn't buy a phone to be limited by what I can do with it...
dfMails said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Simple question for Google
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Thanks for being another jackass who posts unhelpful crap in threads without actually reading them at all. You might think you're doing people a favor but you're not, and if that's how you roll, then forums aren't the place for you.
KMino said:
Just freeze all of the bloatware. Install a good custom kernel (eg Siyah) and move on! No one to blame but yourself for not doing that or wanting to.
Android is doing its job just fine with memory. It's just bogged down by Samsung and vendor crapware.
Be lucky you ain't in the US, DHS big brother software becoming mandatory soon lol
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It's hard to freeze bloatware when you have a bunch of people posting in forums that they don't know half of what the apps on the SGS3 do and if they are safe to freeze or not. I've done some searches but it seems that most people are generally confused about what is safe or not to freeze. Same thing happened with the SGS2. When I got it I googled (and found this place) what I could freeze and found people nitpicking over what they should, and shouldn't freeze. I have frozen everything that I've found is safe to, from multiple threads on the forums here.
I'll go and read a thread though as to why it's a good idea to flash a new kernel. I'd rather not have any restrictions as it is anyway, so that will be my next step, thanks!
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Thanks a ton to anyone who gave me the time of day and didn't just slam up some copypaste drama that has nothing to do with this thread. Free RAM is wasted RAM but when there isn't enough free RAM that background apps start getting killed (and usually instantly reloaded) then it goes without saying phone gets slower, battery drains faster, performance loss etc.
Excuse my retarded attitude but this isn't even the 10th time here I've had to dodge people who just post crap without even reading anything, and then just move on and do the same thing over and over.
I'm going to flash a new kernel, cross my fingers and freeze a few more apps, turn plug-ins to 'on demand' and cross my fingers again.
Thanks again to everyone who really helped and peace. I added thanks to you guys.
leijonasisu said:
Thanks for being another jackass......""
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Thank you, the same to you!
jnr21 said:
Does people think that android is windows, or why someone allways complain about low ram? People, please learn how android ram management really works.
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yeah. stop think like windows (even though windows 7 ram management is good). andoid load it's system/app in ram to provide faster response. but once you need it more, it will clear unused app to free more ram..not to worry about that..
ascariz said:
yeah. stop think like windows (even though windows 7 ram management is good). andoid load it's system/app in ram to provide faster response. but once you need it more, it will clear unused app to free more ram..not to worry about that..
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The problem begins when it start killing apps you are using instead of killing those bloated apps.
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Are you rooted?
If yes:
1 freeze all the bloatware
2 install v6supercharger and set lowmemorykiller values as low as possible
3 install hardswap script
4 you are done...
Now, make your own search, it is all in xda.
I gave you the hint, Nov it is up to you
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I've got myself a 9305, the first day the battery life was awful the battery graph was in free fall. Data usage for the first 6 hours was well over 1 Gb.
I have installed the usual social apps and a couple of smaller games and am now over 10gb used on my system storage. I have come from a DHD that I had the latest custom roms installed, used a2sd and merrily has 130+ apps installed.
I am not rooted yet, but my question to you is what's taking up all that space? I have looked through the internal storage and not found anything large. I do have 600 fully complete Google contacts and 1000+ Picasa images 900 tracks uploaded to Music, are the indices that large?
I will be rooting soon enough when there's a range of roms available. In the meantime any suggestions more than welcome. Thanks
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Well...130+apps installed is quite alot. Alongwith 1000 photos or whatever. Its like a penny. You can find loads of them and it wouldnt be much value until it adds upto a pound. That pound will turn into more. Just like your photos. They could be 1kb each (probably not) and as you add more it will become 1gb before you know it. Along with cache. You could try delete some cache. Or when you get root delete system apps or add a vanilla rom (plain no bloatware)
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I agree that was a lot of apps, but never hit a problem. I don't think at this rate I could install enough apps to cover two pages.
This can't be typical as I'm sure there would be an outcry.
Thanks for the reply though, appreciate it.
I'm going to factory reset in case this handset took a wrong turn somewhere.
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slimeruk said:
I agree that was a lot of apps, but never hit a problem. I don't think at this rate I could install enough apps to cover two pages.
This can't be typical as I'm sure there would be an outcry.
Thanks for the reply though, appreciate it.
I'm going to factory reset in case this handset took a wrong turn somewhere.
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Woah...2pages??? You should of hit at least 5! This is information that would of been helpful as this is nowhere near normal for an s3. do Try to reset it and see if that helps.
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Get the app disk usage and see what is using your storage up
I tried using windirstat but could only analyse the sd card.
Used Astro to browse about but couldn't see much wrong, without root I guess there's a lot hiding.
I have factory reset and installed most of the apps back and am using less than a gig at this point.
I should have done this more scientifically but it seems at this point the issue is resolved but with no real information to pass on to a future sufferer. I'll report back when the usage is similar to when I put the first post.
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