Just bought an amaze. And I see that I have a bad screen bleed, also one dead pixel. Anybody else have the same issue?
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Nope I don't have any dead pixels or screen bleed .
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I take that back, its not actually screen bleed. When the lights at the bottom of the phone light up I get the screen bleed effect.
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Oh so its fine now right ?
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Not really lol. But its better cause when watching videos those keys will not be illuminated
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I tried three different ones before I gave up. All of them had that with the lights. When on they bled up the bottom of the screen. You can really notice it when the screen is dark or black background.
yea mine has it and all the ones i tried did so exchanging it wont result in anything it appears
I only have screen bleeding issue when screen isn't on full brightness. Doesn't really bother me.
I posted this in another thread, but I took some pictures of the "screen bleed" (light from the buttons bleeding over into the screen) on my Amaze 4G. I also put up some pictures of my Nexus S, which has the same button configuration, but zero screen bleed:
http://plus.google.com/photos/105505315440794373505/albums/5662786129509465969
Here's the best picture, with the Nexus S for comparison:
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I only have screen bleeding issue when screen isn't on full brightness. Doesn't really bother me.
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Exactly. Doesn't bother me really. At least its not an issue that hinders the actual performance of the device like the epic 4g touch and its loss of signal issues that everyone is having.
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5of0 said:
I posted this in another thread, but I took some pictures of the "screen bleed" (light from the buttons bleeding over into the screen) on my Amaze 4G. I also put up some pictures of my Nexus S, which has the same button configuration, but zero screen bleed:
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That picture is unfair to the HTC Amaze, the bezel is supposed to be the same color but it's a lot darker on the Nexus S picture.
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That picture is unfair to the HTC Amaze, the bezel is supposed to be the same color but it's a lot darker on the Nexus S picture.
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Hokay, I added more pics to my album. Sorry about the terrible shakycam, I don't have a tripod or anything, and flash screws everything up.
Here's the two side-by-side. One thing I noticed: the Nexus is absolutely fantastic at preserving the blacks. I'm sure this is due to a difference in backlight/screen tech, but it's really impressive - black is just black on the Nexus. The Amaze is much lighter grey when it's supposed to be "black". Here's the two side-by-side with the backlights at their lowest and highest settings:
But even without any backlight or bottom lights, the Nexus' screen is still noticeably blacker than the Amaze. I also added another picture I found elsewhere on the web with two versions of the Nexus S - it is just a difference in the screen tech (SuperLCD vs AMOLED). That may be a factor here as well.
I'm not trying to discredit the Amaze at all - I own it, I love it, and I plan on keeping it. The screen bleed is probably made worse/more noticeable by the screen tech choice, which isn't as good at reproducing blacks. This isn't a huge issue for me, but I just wanted to document the differences here. I'm just taking the best pictures I can to represent it - it really is noticeable in person too, if you care about such things.
Can you take pictures in normal daylight on it's auto light settings to show how it looks in real life..
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Here's the two side-by-side. One thing I noticed: the Nexus is absolutely fantastic at preserving the blacks. I'm sure this is due to a difference in backlight/screen tech, but it's really impressive - black is just black on the Nexus. The Amaze is much lighter grey when it's supposed to be "black". Here's the two side-by-side with the backlights at their lowest and highest settings
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Wow, indeed. I didn't think the blacks would be so different on the two phones (which is why I thought it came from your pictures - evidently I was wrong).
Those pictures are awesome and clearly show how the bottom lights affect the screen, thanks!
Not enough to make me reconsider (though maybe I'll change my mind when I finally have it in hands).
My friend had a very similar light bleeding in his EVO...one day he broke the screen and when replaced with a new one, the problem was gone. so it was a manufacturing issue on the first screen.
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Can you take pictures in normal daylight on it's auto light settings to show how it looks in real life..
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Hokay. I've added some outdoor pictures, and a set of indoor pictures in my dark apartment now that it's day. Updated link. It definitely is much less noticeable outside (although I spend a considerable amount of time inside that I count as "real life" as well ), and the Nexus screen is still blacker, although not as much. Pics:
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Wow, indeed. I didn't think the blacks would be so different on the two phones (which is why I thought it came from your pictures - evidently I was wrong).
Those pictures are awesome and clearly show how the bottom lights affect the screen, thanks!
Not enough to make me reconsider (though maybe I'll change my mind when I finally have it in hands).
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Yeah, the side-by-side Nexus pic I found really demonstrates that. It's not nearly as disparate outdoors, but indoors it's pretty noticeable. And it is just the screen tech - screen techs have their pros and cons, black reproduction is only one aspect of screen quality.
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Exactly. Doesn't bother me really. At least its not an issue that hinders the actual performance of the device like the epic 4g touch and its loss of signal issues that everyone is having.
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Not a performance issue but could be an easy software fix just have the keys dim with the screen. Sent htc an email so other versions might be better.. but I'm sure once we get root there might be a fix for it
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Not a performance issue but could be an easy software fix just have the keys dim with the screen. Sent htc an email so other versions might be better.. but I'm sure once we get root there might be a fix for it
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Do the lights dim? Most LEDs are only capable of being on or off..
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Do the lights dim? Most LEDs are only capable of being on or off..
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All the LEDs are capable of being dimmed, you just have to give them less power.
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All the LEDs are capable of being dimmed, you just have to give them less power.
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Not terribly on-topic, but LEDs are generally actually dimmed via pulse-width modulation - basically, if you want 50% brightness, you turn them on for 50% of the time, off 50% of the time, at >60Hz. Among other things, LED color depends on current - so supplying less current would not only make them dimmer, but change the color.
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I'm also the proud owner of a samsung galaxy s2. However, when it comes to new devices, everything i buy, i want to know if everything is correct!
Now i came across these pics on another forum i visit. But I appreciate this forum more(was only reading untill now), as I can see alot of the people are like me here. Exploring every little thing that could be wrong with the phone and not saying it's annoying to ask a lot of questions.
Now this is the problem i came across, haven't seen it anywhere else here, tough i read somewhere else abouth a blue-ish tint on the screen.
These next pictures have the same brightness, and all the same display settings too! So no lcd automatic power management(i don't know the right english word).
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As you can see here the right picture has slightly "harder" colours. But it seems like the left had more contrast. The yellow lines stay yellow on the left one, on the right it's orange allready.
Left one clearly blue ish shine.
Now as I hold my own phone in the same positions as the picture standpoints, i can see mine is also like the blue-ish one with whole white screens.
Can anybody check this on their phone, as I now am worrying wich one is the one Samsung intended it to be?
Also a little other question, does this "automatic screenpower adapting" also changes the whites more to grey on your phones? When i turned it off it changed alot.
I've also seen those pics on Tweakers and checked my screen but I don't see any blueish hue on my screen. However it's hard to check because I don't know how the "other" screen looks like in real life.
Most people won't be able to notice the blue-ish hint on their screens without having another non blueish screen for reference. But I've had 4 Galaxy S2's pass through my ownership, and all of them have this blue-ish tint.
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Most people won't be able to notice the blue-ish hint on their screens without having another non blueish screen for reference. But I've had 4 Galaxy S2's pass through my ownership, and all of them have this blue-ish tint.
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Yeah i know, wouldn't have noticed it myself. But just by comparing my phone to the blue ish one, i could see mine was like the blue ish one immediatly.
The other one has more of the pink hue like more of the lcd screens is guess...
What causses the difference, is it just some little layer?
Do you think we can talk abouth one of them being broken?
very large keyboard which one is it .
One on the left looks like wrong display settings from the pictures .
But the pictures are not good enough to clarify .
jje
JJEgan said:
very large keyboard which one is it .
One on the left looks like wrong display settings from the pictures .
But the pictures are not good enough to clarify .
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I can tell you that, in real life, mine looks like like the blue-ish one from those angles. However when i look straight on to the phone it's not like that, it's pretty white, like the 3rd picture but without the blue in the left corner.
It's taken with a good camera.
It's not broken. I'm convinced it's a software problem. The colour temperature is set incorrectly, it's too 'cold'.
If you load up a video in the stock video player app, then go into the settings menu, and make a mental note of the white colour of the menu, then go into colour tone, and set it to 'warm', notice the menu now has a much more neutral white and isn't as blue? Unfortunately the colour tone settings set in the video player isn't saved for else where on the phone.
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It's not broken. I'm convinced it's a software problem. The colour temperature is set incorrectly, it's too 'cold'.
If you load up a video in the stock video player app, then go into the settings menu, and make a mental note of the white colour of the menu, then go into colour tone, and set it to 'warm', notice the menu now has a much more neutral white and isn't as blue? Unfortunately the colour tone settings set in the video player isn't saved for else where on the phone.
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Thanks, but doesn't change much. It's just a sort of coating. When i just turn it to idle, and i reflect in in outdoor light, I can see some sort off the same blue ish hue on it... You can test it like this...
So very strange what it is...
Ah yeah I see.
Well my other theory is that due to the way AMOLED displays work, as we all know they die out over time, getting increasingly dull with age. But with AMOLEDs, blue pixels have a much shorter lifetime than the Red/Green pixels.
SO my theory is that either there is blue 'cast/coating' over the screen or that the blue pixels have simply much boosted 'intensity', so that over time as the blue pixels age quicker than the other pixels over time, this blue cast/coating/boosted intensity will mean that the blues will still match the other pixels as they age much slower.
Didn't Supercurio release a color fix in his Voodoo kernel for SGS ? I guess you'll need to wait for a similar fix for the SGS 2 series .
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very large keyboard which one is it .
One on the left looks like wrong display settings from the pictures .
But the pictures are not good enough to clarify .
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Looks like Swype
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Theres supposed to be a setting called Background Effect where you can choose between dynamic, standard and movie. Maybe thats the difference
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Theres supposed to be a setting called Background Effect where you can choose between dynamic, standard and movie. Maybe thats the difference
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I tried that personally, changing it from Standard to Movie helped the problem a fair bit, but it's still there. Dynamic didn't seem to make much difference.
Hmm. Could it be a software problem? Have you tried reflashing it? Or maybe its the problem with the Gorilla Glass.
Does anyone know if the phones in those comparison pictures are both retail? Maybe one is a proto
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Hmm. Could it be a software problem? Have you tried reflashing it? Or maybe its the problem with the Gorilla Glass.
Does anyone know if the phones in those comparison pictures are both retail? Maybe one is a proto
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Phones from a couple from holland. Posted on tweakers.net.
Anybody compared their phone from those viewing points? And see if the blue ish hue is visible?
Hmm it seems the difference is there. My phone is with my friend and his phone is less brighter than mine. This maybe because he has used his phone while mine is new.
Gutted...
I hadn't heard about this but my SGS2 is definitely Blue-ish compared to a white screen on my laptop LCD :-(
Can you take them back and get replaced on this? (I have also put a small but deep scratch in mine, so hoping this would be basis for a replacement)
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Well I brought mine back to the store for a refund, it's just too annoying for me.
Especially when you put it to an angle. The screen of my galaxy s 1 is far superior in this respect
I will wait for a newer batch to see if the problems are solved. I do read very little about this problem, does that mean it's just a problem with few devices or most people just don't care/notice it?
Any news about not-blueish displays?
Is there any possibility to find a near white perfect display, or all display suffers of the same bluish issue? (yesterday I've checked a pair of samples here in Italy, and both were quite blu in my opinion)
I've read that blu oled pixel lifetime is lower than other colors, so Samsung could intentionally push blu pixel in order to compensate color balance in the long term.
Also Gorilla Glass is a bit bluish, so it could contribute to increase the overall blue dominant.
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Any news about not-blueish displays?
Is there any possibility to find a near white perfect display, or all display suffers of the same bluish issue? (yesterday I've checked a pair of samples here in Italy, and both were quite blu in my opinion)
I've read that blu oled pixel lifetime is lower than other colors, so Samsung could intentionally push blu pixel in order to compensate color balance in the long term.
Also Gorilla Glass is a bit bluish, so it could contribute to increase the overall blue dominant.
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No news anymore.
But I am deffinatly sure that my blue tint is not coming from the screen. When i turn my screen off and reflect it in some light and play with it, i can clearly see that it still is blue...
Here are some pictures taken from engadget... You can see it here.
This one shows it....
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This one does not. So look carefully.
My main complaint with the screen is that last 2 out of 4 TFP's I had had washed out colours. Yes, there is a thread in regards to colours, but I want to take slightly different approach.
On Sensation, if you run command "dmesg" without brackets it brought load of info, including PANEL_ID_PYD.... Which gave you type of the screen. Since I had 50/50 good/bad screens, I wonder if we have different screens being shipped with TFP. Unfortunately, that command doesn't bring up anything like that, so question is, how to check screen manufacturer.
Now, I bet 100% that some of you have it and don't even know about it. My family thinks I'm mad, but being an amateur photographer made me see colours a bit more than your average person. So, even if you don't think your colours washed out, please check it and let me know your findings.
See this picture.
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Check it with your phone/pc/laptop and place them side by side.
Anything?
Thanks guys.
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from the reports on this forum there definitely seems to be a lot of variation in the calibration of the tf201 screens that have been shipping. people who care about color and have gone through multiple units have observed that one is warm, another cool, another washed out... putting color tests up side-by-side against my HP ZR30w (S-IPS) and samsung GSII (super AMOLED plus), my tf201 is definitely a bit too warm and it doesn't have the best gamut compared to high end displays. but that's not really fair because both of these screens are more expensive and higher quality than what the tf201 is spec'd out to be. imo the tf201 screen is still very nice compared to other tablets out there so i'm fine with it.
Thanks for the input. I don't mind it to be on a warm side, but I like my red to be RED, not pale red. Same goes for blue. These seem to be most affected colours.
Anyone else?
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The colors on my screen aren't even consistent lol
If I manually set my brightness, sometimes I'll unlock the screen to find deep, vibrant colors, and other times I'll unlock it to greens that I can barely see and reds that are nearly a shade of dark pink...
I personally believe that aside from actual individual defects of these screens, that ICS is at least partially to blame.
Anyone still on Honeycomb who can check this out? I swear I can't find a pattern to what causes them to look good or washed out, but I never know which I'll get. Reboot generally comes up to good colors (haven't noticed otherwise anyway)
I can tell you. Watch MAPS icon carefully, switch to battery mode, then back to normal or performance and watch the magic happen. Then lock and unlock screen to find normal-ish colours again.
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I can tell you. Watch MAPS icon carefully, switch to battery mode, then back to normal or performance and watch the magic happen. Then lock and unlock screen to find normal-ish colours again.
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But I never take it off the battery-saver. Ever. And my colors still get tweaked (although that explains lack of issue on boot up) sporadically. This is what I assumed it was at first, and may play a part, but isn't (in my case at least) the whole story...
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But I never take it off the battery-saver. Ever. And my colors still get tweaked (although that explains lack of issue on boot up) sporadically. This is what I assumed it was at first, and may play a part, but isn't (in my case at least) the whole story...
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battery saver mode definitely degrades display quality, wouldn't be surprised to find that it induces color shifts as well. run balanced mode for a while and see if you still have the problem.
Actually, in my case saver mode gives more accurate colours than two others. Did you do the test I mentioned in op ?
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Google "color test", select images, and open the very first picture.
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lol, I got one of those colorblind tests. Looks warmer on the TFP than on my phone.
Lol, I guess I'll have to upload that particular picture. Just find one with all the colours on it.
Btw, I hope Google search is not tailored to you, if it is you should see an eye specialist.
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Actually, in my case saver mode gives more accurate colours than two others. Did you do the test I mentioned in op ?
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Lol, I ran that "test" just by looking at home screens, then inside the market the first day of owning. All you really need to look at is your market, then look at the green, orange, blue, and red rectangles for the different sections. My tablet is ICE compared to my HTC Vision. I mean, almost looks like different pallets entirely.
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may want to update the title of the thread as well to reflect the discussion about color
Yes, this is the exact problem I had. My colors were good until the .33 update. Now it is washed out. I returned it for another one and it is just as bad. I guess I got unlucky twice. I wonder if theres a firmware/software update for this issue. My HTC thunderbolt looks a lot better
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Yes, this is the exact problem I had. My colors were good until the .33 update. Now it is washed out. I returned it for another one and it is just as bad. I guess I got unlucky twice. I wonder if theres a firmware/software update for this issue. My HTC thunderbolt looks a lot better
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This is why I think it is an issue of software more than anything. I do know that screens by default will be cooler or warmer than another; my identical LG LED monitors are just the slightest bit different. But the issue with washing out is something I did not notice in the few hours I was able to use my Prime and root it before it updated.
Yes, some will be slightly "defective," but I'm waiting for this next update and some homebrew'in ROM love after the unlocker. Then we'll truly see what's going on.
It's not as noticeable as it really is, dig?
I think it's clearest on magenta there, this is on Performance and SuperIPS.
The reason I'm doing it that way is that the picture is aweful without the SuperIPS on, when side-by-side to my LED screens.
Power saving + SuperIPS. More noticeable, but still doesn't look as bad as it does on the naked eye
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Any suggestions as how to name it?
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It's not as noticeable as it really is, dig?
I think it's clearest on magenta there, this is on Performance and SuperIPS.
The reason I'm doing it that way is that the picture is aweful without the SuperIPS on, when side-by-side to my LED screens.
Power saving + SuperIPS. More noticeable, but still doesn't look as bad as it does on the naked eye
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Your one is good, very good. I'll post mine in the evening.
Now to determine wherever it is sw problem, we need to see if all of primes are the same, and if they are not, do panels differ or not. If panels are different, then possibly it is software. If panels are identical, then we have same sw, same panel, different colours = bad screen.
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You cant just compare the colors on two different devices and say its the primes screen. There isnt a single display/graphics card on the market that displays colors correctly uncalibrated, regardless of how much you paid for it. With most displays the colors will be affected by the luminance levels. Most people adjust their displays for higher contrast and more saturation than what is actually true which can make other devices look pale or washed out. Im a professional photographer and know all to well that you cant use and uncalibrated monitor/grahics card combination for color adjustment in the photos. Ive seen many people over the years blame their cameras or printers for bad colors in photos when in reality it was the fact that an uncalibrated monitor was used in post processing. I use Xrite colormunki calibration tools on my PC and printer to make sure that what you see is what you get and its all true colors. This solution uses an optical measuring device and sends color offest values to the grahics card and print drivers. Any color variations are defnitely a matter of drivers to the display and unfortunately there are no adjustments available on android tablets although Spyder did release an app for Ipads.
I understand where you are coming from. It's not realistic to expect everyone to have calibrated screen. And yes, colours will vary between computer screens.
I had 4 primes, so I do have something to compare it to. I didn't notice anything like that with the first two, but it was obvious with last two.
Also, I compared it to all devices I have, and every device outperformed prime in regards to colour reproduction, especially red and blue.
Could you check yours with colormunki or against your calibrated screen please?
I really hope it's down to software, but I can't afford to gamble £500 on it.
I had some prints done professionally and compared them to my screen, so my screen is fairly close to real colours.
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Has anyone noticed the picture quality on the EVO LTE comes out a little fuzzy and less sharp when you compare the actual taken shot with the preview screen? The objects in the picture seem to have a glow effect. The preview screen seems so much sharper. My settings are Exposure 0, Contrast 0, Saturation -1, Sharpness +1. ISO and White Balance are set to AUTO.
It won't look bad for most of you, but if you compare it to the preview screen before the pic is taken, it is a lot worse.
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WHOA. Everyone stop. Forum threads end up being like that game "telephone". One message slowly turns into a runaway interpretation.
Let me clarify. I am aware of the phone's screen quality and that when compared from the phone screen vs. another monitor, there may be significant quality loss. During low light, the camera is sensitive because of the longer exposure, therefore you have to hold the camera still or else it will pick up the slightest movement, resulting in blurred images. What I am talking about is none of that. There is a significant quality loss once the picture is taken. Here is a SS of the camera preview screen and an actual captured photo. Camera settings were exactly the same. Distance/zoom area was exactly the same. This one does not show so much of the "blur" or "glow" I talk about in post 1, but there is a big difference in picture. Bad compression? I'll post a better example tomorrow.
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I have noticed this also. It's quite a significant difference that leaves me saying, "Why doesn't the photo look as good as the preview did?!?"... [frustrated]
I'm wondering if a screenshot would preserve the preview resolution as opposed to snapping a pic. Is a screenshot possible while in the camera app? But then you'd have all the on-screen buttons & whatnot in the image. Hmm...
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I'm wondering if a screenshot would preserve the preview resolution as opposed to snapping a pic. Is a screenshot possible while in the camera app? But then you'd have all the on-screen buttons & whatnot in the image. Hmm...
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I gave it a try.....
Here is my original photo
and the Screenshot photo
The screenshot is clearly inferior.
if you wan't my honest opinion id say they both look like s**t
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if you wan't my honest opinion id say they both look like s**t
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It's a big improvement over the camera in my old 3D. I have already given that phone to my mom or else I would have taken the same photo with that phone to show the comparison.
I'm no professional photographer and I rarely over-analyze photos so as long as I can take a picture of something with my phone and it comes out decent...I'm happy. If I was into photography I would definitely use a dedicated camera but this phone's built in camera is more than enough for me.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33502795/IMAG1402.jpgno issue for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1111948&stc=1&d=1339034601
So I'm just gonna ask . @ ticklemepink, are you really hot chick on this forum ?
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So I'm just gonna ask . @ ticklemepink, are you really hot chick on this forum ?
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hot...anyone opinion.... chick?? i prefer being called a woman... lolz
I have noticed this also in regards to the photos being nice in quality in my phone but looking washed when i view them on my Laptop/PC
Very disappointing
i was about to pull the trigger for this phone but nah this thread really helped with the decision thanks
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i was about to pull the trigger for this phone but nah this thread really helped with the decision thanks
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it's not that the pics are washed out, it's that our screen is so good it makes the picture look better, brighter and all that jazz, you could turn up saturation if you want it to look more colorful, it has been said in mini reviews, if you sent the pic to another evo lte it will look just as good, I have no problem with it, the camera is great so to the guy who said he's not gettin it, please believe it looks good and there are ways to make it look brighter...
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i was about to pull the trigger for this phone but nah this thread really helped with the decision thanks
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example:
stock vs saturation +2
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well get a god damn slcd display on your computer if you want it to look as good as the phone...I mean seriously,are we really saying "hey this photo looks different when i look at it on a totally different lcd screen"
same as the galaxy S phones..Everything looks poppy and colorful on the OLED display untill you load that Issh up on your PC monitor or view it on your TV and it looks dull and boring..
Peace out
^ see and on my phone the second one looks wayyy to colorful but on my computer it looks vibrant... (on macbook pro)
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^ see and on my phone the second one looks wayyy to colorful but on my computer it looks vibrant... (on macbook pro)
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this is my point,and if i take all the beautiful shots i have taken with this phone and load them up on the LCD display on the deck in my truck,Its going to look like donkey crap...Also that nice shot i took and shared on facebook that im so proud of for my little nephew.Guess what,its going to look like crap because hes viewing it on a damn HTC Hero..
Just take your damn pictures and be Happy or return the phone,or in the other guys case dont pull the trigger and go get something else that will only disappoint you in one way or another.
I noticed this at first as well. But I found that if I used the on screen shutter button instead of the physical button it wasn't fuzzy. Also noticed that if I immediately went to burst shots with the physical button the first one was fuzzy while the subsequent pics were okay. Finally attributed it to the pressure required to fully depress the physical button was jarring the phone just enough to cause it to be blurry. That is if you take a single shot with the physical button without using the half press to focus first they usually come out a tad blurry.
As long as I use the half press to hold the focus before taking the shot it seems fine or I use the on screen button.
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I noticed this at first as well. But I found that if I used the on screen shutter button instead of the physical button it wasn't fuzzy. Also noticed that if I immediately went to burst shots with the physical button the first one was fuzzy while the subsequent pics were okay. Finally attributed it to the pressure required to fully depress the physical button was jarring the phone just enough to cause it to be blurry. That is if you take a single shot with the physical button without using the half press to focus first they usually come out a tad blurry.
As long as I use the half press to hold the focus before taking the shot it seems fine or I use the on screen button.
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I actually stopped using the shutter button for this very reason..Did the same thing on the Evo 3D.. Pointless shutter button unless you burst your shots.
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33502795/IMAG1402.jpgno issue for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1111948&stc=1&d=1339034601
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I will say that the macros are the best of ANY phone I've seen & many dedicated cameras. Really, really good. Great shot here! :thumbup:
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I noticed this at first as well. But I found that if I used the on screen shutter button instead of the physical button it wasn't fuzzy. Also noticed that if I immediately went to burst shots with the physical button the first one was fuzzy while the subsequent pics were okay. Finally attributed it to the pressure required to fully depress the physical button was jarring the phone just enough to cause it to be blurry. That is if you take a single shot with the physical button without using the half press to focus first they usually come out a tad blurry.
As long as I use the half press to hold the focus before taking the shot it seems fine or I use the on screen button.
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LOL this is because you don't have steady hands and you pressing down with one finger makes ur hand shake a bit as u take the picture.... which is expected.... it's not the fone is human error hun...
And i was hoping for something without light bleed, aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
Just read Engadgets full review of the nexus 10, generally sounds good, but light bleed is my one bug bare, and yes its there, and they confirmed it on a second device aswell!
Sooo close!
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And i was hoping for something without light bleed, aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
Just read Engadgets full review of the nexus 10, generally sounds good, but light bleed is my one bug bare, and yes its there, and they confirmed it on a second device aswell!
Sooo close!
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Calm down slick. Even two devices doesn't mean that every product off the line will have it. Unless they had checked 20 devices and every one had the same problem, I'm not writing of the device. There are defects. Some people have Nexus 7's with no light bleed, others have it with some light bleed.
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Calm down slick. Even two devices doesn't mean that every product off the line will have it. Unless they had checked 20 devices and every one had the same problem, I'm not writing of the device. There are defects. Some people have Nexus 7's with no light bleed, others have it with some light bleed.
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I'm hoping they were slightly lower quality review devices! PLEASEEEEEEEEEE,
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I'm hoping they were slightly lower quality review devices! PLEASEEEEEEEEEE,
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Of the 5 reviews so far only Engadget mentioned leakage, everyone else is highly satisfied with the screen. Cnet mentioned these are presale models being tested, so let's just wait for the final version.
With the new Nexus 10 coming out, I strongly believe Apple is going downhill. I do not want to be cynical but had Steve been still alive, this would have never happened. When I saw the Ipad Mini, I thought "This is going to be my first Apple product, though expensive". Then Google announced Nexus 10. Everything changed dramatically. I want Google, and nothing but the Google, so help me God(if any)!!!
Light bleed is kind of a big deal to me too. I don't care about anything being really much over 1920x1080 (although it has to be at least 300PPI for me with Pentile displays, I can still see it), but light bleed might be the deal breaker here when I see this thing. It is not like I absolutely need a tablet with a good desktop, laptop, and phone. I'd be getting it for media and browsing around the house and workplace where screen quality will be the #1 focus.
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Light bleed is kind of a big deal to me too. I don't care about anything being really much over 1920x1080 (although it has to be at least 300PPI for me with Pentile displays, I can still see it), but light bleed might be the deal breaker here when I see this thing. It is not like I absolutely need a tablet with a good desktop, laptop, and phone. I'd be getting it for media and browsing around the house and workplace where screen quality will be the #1 focus.
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+1 Can't stand light bleed.
It seems that the contrast is nothing special either, but that's because it's not as bright as other tablets. The black level looks decent according to the tests.
D: ohh lol i hate light bleeds
Does warranty cover light bleeding?
Any LCD with a backlight will suffer from light bleed to some extent even the iPad3 retina (just Google for the pictures). Obviously, something to check for and exchange if it's significant. The pictures on The Verge don't show any signs of it and the pixel level comparison shows the Nexus 10 display to be superior in black level, colors and sharpness against retina.
What is the brightness of the screen, anyway?
There is a firestorm going on over at Engadget over this review. The same reviewer wrote the iPad mini review and fawned over it but nitpicks the Nexus 10. Engadget has been deleting posts that point out the flaws in the review (and back it up with evidence).
I wouldn't put too much stock in this review, but it's always a good idea to be skeptical.
What is exactly "light bleed"?
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What is exactly "light bleed"?
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When the spread of the backlight is uneven, so parts of the screen are brighter than others.
I always thought light bleed was the presence of light when there shouldn't be any. Like when you're watching a movie in portrait view, and the black bars on top and bottom show light. That's why I haven't wasted much time with IPS in the last couple years ever since discovering Samsung's AMOLEDs. Uneven backlighting is a different and even worse artifact, and again it only affects non-AMOLED screens.
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I always thought light bleed was the presence of light when there shouldn't be any. Like when you're watching a movie in portrait view, and the black bars on top and bottom show light. That's why I haven't wasted much time with IPS in the last couple years ever since discovering Samsung's AMOLEDs. Uneven backlighting is a different and even worse artifact, and again it only affects non-AMOLED screens.
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Seems like they both have pros and cons. Amoled displays have high risk of tint, I experienced this in my s2 for about a year until I finally got a replacement. This one portrays whites much better, or at least now it does. Aside from that you have all benefits, thin capacitive touch layer, vibrant colors (I don't give a **** if they're over saturated, they look great and that's what matters), no risk of light bleed, and huge potential battery savings. In my personal opinion I would take an amoled panel any day. I mean, displays like the super lcd2 in the one x are brilliant, but come on,, have you seen the note 2 on dynamic settings ?
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Wished Samsung had gone with SAMOLED. Without a backlight there's no backlight bleed, ghosting, uniformity, etc. issues.
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Wished Samsung had gone with SAMOLED. Without a backlight there's no backlight bleed, ghosting, uniformity, etc. issues.
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The technology is not there yet, nor is the economy. They simply can't produce a 2560x1680 OLED panel, 10" or otherwise, at a price anyone would be willing to pay.
Look at the PenTile "tricks" they have to pull on Galaxy phones as an indicator of how they're struggling with the tech, look at the very high cost of the Tab 7.7 to see how expensive it gets when you increase size, and to further reinforce that look at the ludicrous price of their big screen SAMOLED televisions compared to LCD and plasma.
Give it a few more years, it'll be feasible, and Samsung is surely working very hard on the problem, since they have a lot invested in pretty much owning the OLED market.
You're right. This is going to be the best 10" screen for the next 6-12 months. Yes it won't look as good as the screen on my S3 but I will be more than happy with it.
8 days and counting!
Hopefully a PCWorld/Currys near me will have it ready to take away!
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Just wanted to let people know that trickster mod (in play store) has color calibration. Root required.
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Just wanted to let people know that trickster mod (in play store) has color calibration. Root required.
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yup i saw that. any good profiles? i'm keeping mine stock for now bc i'm bad at calibrating color lol it seems pretty good stock..
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yup i saw that. any good profiles? i'm keeping mine stock for now bc i'm bad at calibrating color lol it seems pretty good stock..
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Lol, yeah I left it alone. I just thought I would share for the guys who like tinker and weren't aware of it
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Is there any overhead with this type of thing that's not kernel based?
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LG is oversaturating on this display(don't ask me or question my decision, I've seen the gamut) and I believe it's best to leave it at stock except you want the washed out nexus 4 default colors.
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LG is oversaturating on this display(don't ask me or question my decision, I've seen the gamut) and I believe it's best to leave it at stock except you want the washed out nexus 4 default colors.
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You should see Samsung phones, talk about oversaturation!
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You should see Samsung phones, talk about oversaturation!
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While I don't disagree, for some reason the S4's screen is still easier on my eyes than the G2's. (and I'm not coming directly from an S4) Maybe the G2's auto-brightness is just leaning towards being too dim, or maybe over-saturating a LCD screen looks worse than an over-saturated AMOLED screen, or maybe it's simply the text that the G2 uses... I don't know what it is, but I'm finding the G2's screen doesn't feel as nice to my eyes as the S4's. I know, I'm probably crazy...
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While I don't disagree, for some reason the S4's screen is still easier on my eyes than the G2's. (and I'm not coming directly from an S4) Maybe the G2's auto-brightness is just leaning towards being too dim, or maybe over-saturating a LCD screen looks worse than an over-saturated AMOLED screen, or maybe it's simply the text that the G2 uses... I don't know what it is, but I'm finding the G2's screen doesn't feel as nice to my eyes as the S4's. I know, I'm probably crazy...
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Yeah, you're crazy.
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You should see Samsung phones, talk about oversaturation!
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I'm not going to argue here but when I do lay out information I know what I mean.I did a test and this reviewer did it too.They r the same!LG is oversaturating.Watch this before saying what not.Samsung doesn't over saturate.Their displays are produced like that by default and have a wide gamut.But they seem to be correcting that with the s4.
I can tell you what it is.. it's the glass and LCD combo they use. it's weird on the eyes. it's very reflective and can almost get a weird rainbow effect, and it has bad angle viewing.
this screen is almost identical to my rezound.. amazing screen but it had that weird glossy effect to it. the dna however was a diff type of screen apparently bc it didn't resemble that at all... and now the g2 does again.
basically it's hard to explain but htc uses a screen very similar to this in the rezound which is reflective and glossy whereas in the dna and one they switched to some different type. maybe it's the glass? idk. but the g2 does have a diff type of LCD screen to it.
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also idk how you can say the s4 isn't over saturated. I have to set it down to the standard or photo screen setting bc their stock is the dynamic one that's super saturated.
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LG is oversaturating on this display(don't ask me or question my decision, I've seen the gamut) and I believe it's best to leave it at stock except you want the washed out nexus 4 default colors.
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If you don't want people to ask you why you've come to this conclusion or to even have the audacity to question your decision, then perhaps you're better off not posting something at all. Talk about a terrible post, essentially you say "Do what I tell you, and don't ask why".
You can see here that while the G2 display covers sRGB space nicely, LG have pushed the saturation on R, G, and B values. For instance, look at the two dots at the bottom in Blue. The next to last dot should be in the next to last square for accuracy. Instead, as R, G, and B values approach maximum saturation, the color approaches full saturation too quickly. Hard to explain but stare at the chart for awhile and you will understand :fingers-crossed:
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You can see here that while the G2 display covers sRGB space nicely, LG have pushed the saturation on R, G, and B values. For instance, look at the two dots at the bottom in Blue. The next to last dot should be in the next to last square for accuracy. Instead, as R, G, and B values approach maximum saturation, the color approaches full saturation too quickly. Hard to explain but stare at the chart for awhile and you will understand :fingers-crossed:
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Actually not hard to understand if you understand photography,
But from the chart you can see that the colors are also shifted in ways that will make the screen look strange or skin tones maybe too green or red.
So not only does it saturate too quickly but the colors are shifted.
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If you don't want people to ask you why you've come to this conclusion or to even have the audacity to question your decision, then perhaps you're better off not posting something at all. Talk about a terrible post, essentially you say "Do what I tell you, and don't ask why".
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I don't know why some keep arguing.I own a G2 and we r on the same side.I'm stating the facts and they r as clear as the fact that LG made this phone(or is it made by Apple?).That's y I say don't question the proofs of over saturation I laid before.The picture above is crystal clear!
Um, yeah. The screen looks just fine to me. I really don't care what charts say, I'm sitting here with my g2 next an s4 and the g2 looks less "cartoony" so I'm fine with it. I just thought I would mention that color calibration was available, not to start a lecture on color saturation.
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perfectly fine for me too!
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I don't know why some keep arguing.I own a G2 and we r on the same side.I'm stating the facts and they r as clear as the fact that LG made this phone(or is it made by Apple?).That's y I say don't question the proofs of over saturation I laid before.The picture above is crystal clear!
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I understand and I'm not arguing with you, I just think the delivery could have been a bit better. You could have at least left it open to foster a discussion, and not been so dismissive to people who might have questions about your conclusion. That's all I was getting at.
Maybe I am a saturation sucker but I did like the colors on my S4, seemed to pop on there.. not so much on the G2, its lighter
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Maybe I am a saturation sucker but I did like the colors on my S4, seemed to pop on there.. not so much on the G2, its lighter
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Took me a while to get used to the LG screens when I first got my Nexus 4. I actually prefer them now to the S4 and the One. One thing I really like is that there is pretty much no space between the glass and the screen. I think it will grow on you. The screen looks brilliant with video and colorful backgrounds, etc.