Has anyone noticed the picture quality on the EVO LTE comes out a little fuzzy and less sharp when you compare the actual taken shot with the preview screen? The objects in the picture seem to have a glow effect. The preview screen seems so much sharper. My settings are Exposure 0, Contrast 0, Saturation -1, Sharpness +1. ISO and White Balance are set to AUTO.
It won't look bad for most of you, but if you compare it to the preview screen before the pic is taken, it is a lot worse.
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MILESTONE UPDATE (Post #22)
androofoo said:
WHOA. Everyone stop. Forum threads end up being like that game "telephone". One message slowly turns into a runaway interpretation.
Let me clarify. I am aware of the phone's screen quality and that when compared from the phone screen vs. another monitor, there may be significant quality loss. During low light, the camera is sensitive because of the longer exposure, therefore you have to hold the camera still or else it will pick up the slightest movement, resulting in blurred images. What I am talking about is none of that. There is a significant quality loss once the picture is taken. Here is a SS of the camera preview screen and an actual captured photo. Camera settings were exactly the same. Distance/zoom area was exactly the same. This one does not show so much of the "blur" or "glow" I talk about in post 1, but there is a big difference in picture. Bad compression? I'll post a better example tomorrow.
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I have noticed this also. It's quite a significant difference that leaves me saying, "Why doesn't the photo look as good as the preview did?!?"... [frustrated]
I'm wondering if a screenshot would preserve the preview resolution as opposed to snapping a pic. Is a screenshot possible while in the camera app? But then you'd have all the on-screen buttons & whatnot in the image. Hmm...
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chconser said:
I'm wondering if a screenshot would preserve the preview resolution as opposed to snapping a pic. Is a screenshot possible while in the camera app? But then you'd have all the on-screen buttons & whatnot in the image. Hmm...
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I gave it a try.....
Here is my original photo
and the Screenshot photo
The screenshot is clearly inferior.
if you wan't my honest opinion id say they both look like s**t
BrianBaker said:
if you wan't my honest opinion id say they both look like s**t
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It's a big improvement over the camera in my old 3D. I have already given that phone to my mom or else I would have taken the same photo with that phone to show the comparison.
I'm no professional photographer and I rarely over-analyze photos so as long as I can take a picture of something with my phone and it comes out decent...I'm happy. If I was into photography I would definitely use a dedicated camera but this phone's built in camera is more than enough for me.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33502795/IMAG1402.jpgno issue for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1111948&stc=1&d=1339034601
So I'm just gonna ask . @ ticklemepink, are you really hot chick on this forum ?
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coffeehandle said:
So I'm just gonna ask . @ ticklemepink, are you really hot chick on this forum ?
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hot...anyone opinion.... chick?? i prefer being called a woman... lolz
I have noticed this also in regards to the photos being nice in quality in my phone but looking washed when i view them on my Laptop/PC
Very disappointing
i was about to pull the trigger for this phone but nah this thread really helped with the decision thanks
genax said:
i was about to pull the trigger for this phone but nah this thread really helped with the decision thanks
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it's not that the pics are washed out, it's that our screen is so good it makes the picture look better, brighter and all that jazz, you could turn up saturation if you want it to look more colorful, it has been said in mini reviews, if you sent the pic to another evo lte it will look just as good, I have no problem with it, the camera is great so to the guy who said he's not gettin it, please believe it looks good and there are ways to make it look brighter...
genax said:
i was about to pull the trigger for this phone but nah this thread really helped with the decision thanks
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Your loss
example:
stock vs saturation +2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1112060&stc=1&d=1339039437
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1112061&stc=1&d=1339039437
well get a god damn slcd display on your computer if you want it to look as good as the phone...I mean seriously,are we really saying "hey this photo looks different when i look at it on a totally different lcd screen"
same as the galaxy S phones..Everything looks poppy and colorful on the OLED display untill you load that Issh up on your PC monitor or view it on your TV and it looks dull and boring..
Peace out
^ see and on my phone the second one looks wayyy to colorful but on my computer it looks vibrant... (on macbook pro)
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^ see and on my phone the second one looks wayyy to colorful but on my computer it looks vibrant... (on macbook pro)
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this is my point,and if i take all the beautiful shots i have taken with this phone and load them up on the LCD display on the deck in my truck,Its going to look like donkey crap...Also that nice shot i took and shared on facebook that im so proud of for my little nephew.Guess what,its going to look like crap because hes viewing it on a damn HTC Hero..
Just take your damn pictures and be Happy or return the phone,or in the other guys case dont pull the trigger and go get something else that will only disappoint you in one way or another.
I noticed this at first as well. But I found that if I used the on screen shutter button instead of the physical button it wasn't fuzzy. Also noticed that if I immediately went to burst shots with the physical button the first one was fuzzy while the subsequent pics were okay. Finally attributed it to the pressure required to fully depress the physical button was jarring the phone just enough to cause it to be blurry. That is if you take a single shot with the physical button without using the half press to focus first they usually come out a tad blurry.
As long as I use the half press to hold the focus before taking the shot it seems fine or I use the on screen button.
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dsEVOlve said:
I noticed this at first as well. But I found that if I used the on screen shutter button instead of the physical button it wasn't fuzzy. Also noticed that if I immediately went to burst shots with the physical button the first one was fuzzy while the subsequent pics were okay. Finally attributed it to the pressure required to fully depress the physical button was jarring the phone just enough to cause it to be blurry. That is if you take a single shot with the physical button without using the half press to focus first they usually come out a tad blurry.
As long as I use the half press to hold the focus before taking the shot it seems fine or I use the on screen button.
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I actually stopped using the shutter button for this very reason..Did the same thing on the Evo 3D.. Pointless shutter button unless you burst your shots.
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33502795/IMAG1402.jpgno issue for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1111948&stc=1&d=1339034601
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I will say that the macros are the best of ANY phone I've seen & many dedicated cameras. Really, really good. Great shot here! :thumbup:
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dsEVOlve said:
I noticed this at first as well. But I found that if I used the on screen shutter button instead of the physical button it wasn't fuzzy. Also noticed that if I immediately went to burst shots with the physical button the first one was fuzzy while the subsequent pics were okay. Finally attributed it to the pressure required to fully depress the physical button was jarring the phone just enough to cause it to be blurry. That is if you take a single shot with the physical button without using the half press to focus first they usually come out a tad blurry.
As long as I use the half press to hold the focus before taking the shot it seems fine or I use the on screen button.
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LOL this is because you don't have steady hands and you pressing down with one finger makes ur hand shake a bit as u take the picture.... which is expected.... it's not the fone is human error hun...
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I'm just re-writing this post to compile all the examples I've found so far.
I have found a common fault (despite what some of you think, it's not right!) with the right camera on the phone.
1) it goes in and out of focus on video
2) some photos the right image is way out of focus
3) the worst one, during videos the image from the right camera moves!
4) the right camera shows photos and videos in different colour!
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Video showing the same out of focus problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk86jp4Ws60 (press the 3D button below the video and choose "side by side")
Another where the right goes out of focus in the middle, it's also displaying everything as a slightly different colour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikwaWnPYnc
another one with different colour on the right and the right camera moves after around 3-5 seconds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ2G8q5MRIE
look at the colour of the back of the chairs around 8-10 seconds, they go blue on the right camera!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_akMqqpfWE
another one, waych right camera move at 53 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TL1f8zvl6LY#t=52s
yet another really bad and obvious right camera move at 9 seconds that lasts 5 seconds, again at 1.15 and 1.50 as well as the camera moving (wobbling) all the way through it compared to the left which stays still!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MExk2CcsLJU
have a look at this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kICxot_r9-s
you can see when something like a wall or door is straight in one side, it's at a slight angle in the other, like the right camera is twisted slightly
Keep in mind the right camera is more likely to get a smudge or finger print on it since its closest to the side the button/hand is.
green91 said:
Keep in mind the right camera is more likely to get a smudge or finger print on it since its closest to the side the button/hand is.
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true, but you can clearly see on the dog one that it's out of focus and not a "smudge", both camera's should be the same focus/white balance etc for the 3D to work.
If they focus or do anything independent of the other then that's a major oversight by HTC
Yeah, I noticed the same thing about 20 minutes ago when i was trying to stream it from my phone to my 3d tv before i converted the side by side image to 3d.
jah2006 said:
Yeah, I noticed the same thing about 20 minutes ago when i was trying to stream it from my phone to my 3d tv before i converted the side by side image to 3d.
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hmmm, doesn't look good then, unless it is related to the smudging?!
could be a common fault (though an ota update could fix it if HTC know about it)
Another where the right goes out of focus in the middle, it's also displaying everything as a slightly different colour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikwaWnPYnc
look at the colour of the back of the chairs around 8-10 seconds, they go blue on the right camera!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_akMqqpfWE
this isn't good!
I don't know how to check the details but here's a youtube video that I recorded with my 3vo on wednesday.
Let me know if you see the problem?. I tried to view it on my screen but it looks fine side by side?
http://youtu.be/saUqENC3LCI
Its definately not a smudging issue, I made sure i cleaned it with a microfiber cloth because i wanted it to be as clear as possible before I tried watching it on my tv.
darkflame said:
I don't know how to check the details but here's a youtube video that I recorded with my 3vo on wednesday.
Let me know if you see the problem?. I tried to view it on my screen but it looks fine side by side?
http://youtu.be/saUqENC3LCI
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Looks fine to me
however, I've seen some people have put up 3 or 4 photos and the problem is only there in 1 photo or video
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Its definately not a smudging issue, I made sure i cleaned it with a microfiber cloth because i wanted it to be as clear as possible before I tried watching it on my tv.
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yeah, just found some more videos where the right goes in and out of focus
Maybe some 3vo's had different ccd sensors placed in the left and right eyes? <-this would really make things complicated or if your evo was one of the unfortunate ones where the right eye was the last of batch x and the left eye was the first of batch y.
Or maybe the software still needs some kinks ironed out.
my left camera wasn't focusing and even the 2d pictures were turning out blurry. i am now on my second evo3d
you need to remember that the device is an optical aid free device, so it wont use your typical stereoscopy picture methods, i believe with the glasses free approach one camera takes the real image and other takes it out of focus to give you depth.
Ie left camera takes the picture focused with background and all
the right camera takes a close up of the main object to give it a 3d appearance
kingakuma said:
you need to remember that the device is an optical aid free device, so it wont use your typical stereoscopy picture methods, i believe with the glasses free approach one camera takes the real image and other takes it out of focus to give you depth.
Ie left camera takes the picture focused with background and all
the right camera takes a close up of the main object to give it a 3d appearance
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no, the right camera takes an image for your right eye, the left for your left eye so you get 2 images (same focus etc) as you do in real life
mmace said:
no, the right camera takes an image for your right eye, the left for your left eye so you get 2 images (same focus etc) as you do in real life
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Autostereoscopy is any method of displaying stereoscopic images (adding perception of 3D depth) without the use of special headgear or glasses on the part of the viewer. Because headgear is not required, it is also called "glasses-free 3D" or "glasses-less 3D". The technology also includes two broad approaches used in some of them to accommodate motion parallax and wider viewing angles: those that use eye-tracking, and those that display multiple views so that the display does not need to sense where the viewers' eyes are located.[1] Examples of autostereoscopic displays include parallax barrier, lenticular, volumetric, electro-holographic, and light field displays.
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Autostereoscopy is any method of displaying stereoscopic images (adding perception of 3D depth) without the use of special headgear or glasses on the part of the viewer. Because headgear is not required, it is also called "glasses-free 3D" or "glasses-less 3D". The technology also includes two broad approaches used in some of them to accommodate motion parallax and wider viewing angles: those that use eye-tracking, and those that display multiple views so that the display does not need to sense where the viewers' eyes are located.[1] Examples of autostereoscopic displays include parallax barrier, lenticular, volumetric, electro-holographic, and light field displays.
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The Evo 3D uses the right camera for the right eye and the left for the left eye. Most photos are correct [both in focus] (proving your theory wrong) where as some are incorrect and some videos are going in and out of focus (how do you explain this one?)
this is in reply to your post before you completely changed it btw because your explanation you have changed it to agrees with what I'm saying
"display multiple views" (L & R)
seen a few more now, it's about 25% of the photos I've seen. Bad blur/focus and discoloured, all from different users/phones
Looks fine on your phone/3D monitor/3DTV (your eye adjusts because your brain knows what you should see), but if you close one eye then the other you'll see it in the right eye
i think one is 2d and the one that looks blurry is 3d. if you are not looking at it on a 3d compatable device it will look smudged.
although i could be wrong
Did anyone ask HTC about this LOL I know 3D is suppose to somewhat blurry on one side its weird and hard to explain I think the issue is normal. Dunno tho I would check with HTC and ask . I am not having issues.
IFMISM said:
i think one is 2d and the one that looks blurry is 3d. if you are not looking at it on a 3d compatable device it will look smudged.
although i could be wrong
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one is left eye, one is right eye. Not every photo by everyone is blurred, just some of them.
I was just browsing my pics and it looks like they still are 3d in portrait. Or am I seeing things.
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Same for me. Quality is abysmal but it is trying to do stereoscopic 3d in portrait
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i don't think you guys are understanding the concept of the 3d not working in portrait. it's mostly referring to TAKING the pictures, being that the two cameras are side by side. taking 3d pictures in portrait would in essence make any 3d effects via the top and bottom camera, not side by side, drastically reducing the visibility of 3d effects.
the screen is fully capable of displaying properly taken 3d pictures in portrait mode.
sheep_duck said:
i don't think you guys are understanding the concept of the 3d not working in portrait. it's mostly referring to TAKING the pictures, being that the two cameras are side by side. taking 3d pictures in portrait would in essence make any 3d effects via the top and bottom camera, not side by side, drastically reducing the visibility of 3d effects.
the screen is fully capable of displaying properly taken 3d pictures in portrait mode.
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Prior to it's release some wanted hacks for a 3d launcher, so there was a discussion on whether or not the hardware was cable of displaying 3d in portrait. Some said it couldn't.
Yea the so called know it alls said it wasn't possible... Guess we won't be hearing from them anytime soon
Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter
the parallax screen only works in landscape, your eyes must be tricking you, it is NOT possible on any current 3D screen to do both landscape and portrait
look into how the screen works and you'll see what I mean
Assuming the barrier is a two way, portriat is easily possible. Looks 3d to me...
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the parallax screen only works in landscape, your eyes must be tricking you, it is NOT possible on any current 3D screen to do both landscape and portrait
look into how the screen works and you'll see what I mean
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It shows 3d for me as well. So....
aimbdd said:
It shows 3d for me as well. So....
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Same here. Pretty sure I can tell the difference between 3d and 2d.
How do people still argue something isn't happening when your looking right at it with proof? Pictures that you take show in 3d when in portrait mode, period!
Now Youtube vids do not. Then only go 3d when rotating the screen into landscape.
mmace said:
the parallax screen only works in landscape, your eyes must be tricking you, it is NOT possible on any current 3D screen to do both landscape and portrait
look into how the screen works and you'll see what I mean
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It works in portrait. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MasterImage_3D
@everyone else: it has a very small viewing angle in portrait, you have to get it just right in order for it to work
I'm going to have to go with the "it looks like it is trying to work, but it isn't really 3D" in portrait camp. The very small angle it almost works only happen when you twist the phone a little off vertical. Guess what? The farther you get from portrait (as in all the way to landscape) the better it will work. Those who see 3D are just seeing a visual conflict between the dissimilar images. You won't be able to focus on foreground elements or background elements seperately leaving a facsimile of stereo depth perception until the images reach your two eyes aligned in the same plane as your two eyes are. I've been staring at my 3VO for the last hour trying to get 3D images in portrait to look like they do holding the phone in landscape, and can't get rid of color artifacts/conflicts/shimmer/etc., until I return to a horizontal view lined up with the line between my eyes.
ktrotter11 said:
Yea the so called know it alls said it wasn't possible... Guess we won't be hearing from them anytime soon
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I stand by it after having it for a couple days now....it just doesn't look 3D, it looks like a mess....and I have yet to see even a hint of 3D--and I would love to have 3D at both orientations.
Sure, it looks like it's trying...or something....and I guess I could see how some people could convince themselves that it is 3D.....and perhaps it has something to do with the size of the image, but, I've stared and focused and unfocused and tried...really I did...and I don't believe it is capable of 3D in portrait..
...and if the hardware is capable then perhaps we need 3D content specially designed for such a narrow field of vision....
I dont see 3d in portrait...even in landscape 3d really isnt that impressive...yea it works but the fad wore off quick...plus its hard to look at...now i understand the whole " get a headache while looking at it". The phone itself is great but i kind of knew going in that a first gen device such as this, meaning 3d viewing, would need some seasoning.
SBERG117 said:
I dont see 3d in portrait...even in landscape 3d really isnt that impressive...yea it works but the fad wore off quick...plus its hard to look at...now i understand the whole " get a headache while looking at it". The phone itself is great but i kind of knew going in that a first gen device such as this, meaning 3d viewing, would need some seasoning.
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I don't see these drawbacks to 3D viewing being possible to defeat...ever...they have been there for the 100+ year of stereoscopic image viewing.
...though that might change with introduction of a new technology, but, there are certain things involved that cannot be fixed. Ever. For instance, where the hell is the focal point supposed to be? If the answer is anything except 'the same place every time' we're right back where we started....
All said, it's still pretty cool.
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It works in portrait. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MasterImage_3D
@everyone else: it has a very small viewing angle in portrait, you have to get it just right in order for it to work
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That link does not support your statement. It simply explains how a parallax screen works. For the evo's display to support 3D in both landscape and portrait, the display would need to be able to generate the parallax barrier in both directions. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing the display cannot do this.
Look at this picture I took in 3d over the weekend and tell me it isn't 3d in portrait.
It takes a while to get the viewing angle right but that deer head is sticking out. This from someone who sucks at stereograms but sees this no problem.
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How do I upload it as 3d? I swear it is 3d on my phone. Guess tapatalk is not really 3d ready.
The phone absolutely does do 3D in portrait. Shoot an image in 3D and bring it up in the gallery holding the phone portrait. The angle is a lot more sensitive when held that way so tilt it back and forth until you get it right. Now... alternately close your left and right eye looking at the image through only one eye at a time. You'll see that your left and right eyes see totally different images. Pay attention to objects in the photo and you'll see that they shift: one eye might be able to see an object behind the foreground subject while the other has that same object partially obscured. Only way that can happen (each eye seeing a different image) is if the 3D is working.
Granted, it doesn't work as well as landscape, but it does work!
Mike
mmace said:
the parallax screen only works in landscape, your eyes must be tricking you, it is NOT possible on any current 3D screen to do both landscape and portrait
look into how the screen works and you'll see what I mean
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Uhh yeah, that's all fine and dandy, but i'm sitting here looking at some 3D stuff right now in portrait and you can clearly see depth. After opening one eye at a time, they are both seeing 2 different images. The quality isn't great, but it indeed works. Case closed. You lose
It's 3d in portrait.
3D taking of no workie portrait - sort of
And another... didn't think 3D viewing worked in portrait, so never tried... but read the wiki link and gave it a shot.
And it works. And once I held the phone out to near arms length away, it looked okay without any effects.
But that's still not the complaint people have. The complaint is that it won't take 3D pictures/video while held in portrait (well, won't if you tilt it 20-30 degrees out from landscape). The work around is to use the timer. Start in landscape, set the timer, and position phone how you want before time runs out, then Bob's your uncle. Be nice if it'd work regardless of how it's held, just tell people that the picture is captured in 'Landscap' regardless of orientation, so if you look at it in portrait, it'll shrink and rotate to fit like the other 3D pics.
Just bought an amaze. And I see that I have a bad screen bleed, also one dead pixel. Anybody else have the same issue?
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Nope I don't have any dead pixels or screen bleed .
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I take that back, its not actually screen bleed. When the lights at the bottom of the phone light up I get the screen bleed effect.
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Oh so its fine now right ?
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Not really lol. But its better cause when watching videos those keys will not be illuminated
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I tried three different ones before I gave up. All of them had that with the lights. When on they bled up the bottom of the screen. You can really notice it when the screen is dark or black background.
yea mine has it and all the ones i tried did so exchanging it wont result in anything it appears
I only have screen bleeding issue when screen isn't on full brightness. Doesn't really bother me.
I posted this in another thread, but I took some pictures of the "screen bleed" (light from the buttons bleeding over into the screen) on my Amaze 4G. I also put up some pictures of my Nexus S, which has the same button configuration, but zero screen bleed:
http://plus.google.com/photos/105505315440794373505/albums/5662786129509465969
Here's the best picture, with the Nexus S for comparison:
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I only have screen bleeding issue when screen isn't on full brightness. Doesn't really bother me.
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Exactly. Doesn't bother me really. At least its not an issue that hinders the actual performance of the device like the epic 4g touch and its loss of signal issues that everyone is having.
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I posted this in another thread, but I took some pictures of the "screen bleed" (light from the buttons bleeding over into the screen) on my Amaze 4G. I also put up some pictures of my Nexus S, which has the same button configuration, but zero screen bleed:
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That picture is unfair to the HTC Amaze, the bezel is supposed to be the same color but it's a lot darker on the Nexus S picture.
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That picture is unfair to the HTC Amaze, the bezel is supposed to be the same color but it's a lot darker on the Nexus S picture.
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Hokay, I added more pics to my album. Sorry about the terrible shakycam, I don't have a tripod or anything, and flash screws everything up.
Here's the two side-by-side. One thing I noticed: the Nexus is absolutely fantastic at preserving the blacks. I'm sure this is due to a difference in backlight/screen tech, but it's really impressive - black is just black on the Nexus. The Amaze is much lighter grey when it's supposed to be "black". Here's the two side-by-side with the backlights at their lowest and highest settings:
But even without any backlight or bottom lights, the Nexus' screen is still noticeably blacker than the Amaze. I also added another picture I found elsewhere on the web with two versions of the Nexus S - it is just a difference in the screen tech (SuperLCD vs AMOLED). That may be a factor here as well.
I'm not trying to discredit the Amaze at all - I own it, I love it, and I plan on keeping it. The screen bleed is probably made worse/more noticeable by the screen tech choice, which isn't as good at reproducing blacks. This isn't a huge issue for me, but I just wanted to document the differences here. I'm just taking the best pictures I can to represent it - it really is noticeable in person too, if you care about such things.
Can you take pictures in normal daylight on it's auto light settings to show how it looks in real life..
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Here's the two side-by-side. One thing I noticed: the Nexus is absolutely fantastic at preserving the blacks. I'm sure this is due to a difference in backlight/screen tech, but it's really impressive - black is just black on the Nexus. The Amaze is much lighter grey when it's supposed to be "black". Here's the two side-by-side with the backlights at their lowest and highest settings
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Wow, indeed. I didn't think the blacks would be so different on the two phones (which is why I thought it came from your pictures - evidently I was wrong).
Those pictures are awesome and clearly show how the bottom lights affect the screen, thanks!
Not enough to make me reconsider (though maybe I'll change my mind when I finally have it in hands).
My friend had a very similar light bleeding in his EVO...one day he broke the screen and when replaced with a new one, the problem was gone. so it was a manufacturing issue on the first screen.
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Can you take pictures in normal daylight on it's auto light settings to show how it looks in real life..
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Hokay. I've added some outdoor pictures, and a set of indoor pictures in my dark apartment now that it's day. Updated link. It definitely is much less noticeable outside (although I spend a considerable amount of time inside that I count as "real life" as well ), and the Nexus screen is still blacker, although not as much. Pics:
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keger_ said:
Wow, indeed. I didn't think the blacks would be so different on the two phones (which is why I thought it came from your pictures - evidently I was wrong).
Those pictures are awesome and clearly show how the bottom lights affect the screen, thanks!
Not enough to make me reconsider (though maybe I'll change my mind when I finally have it in hands).
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Yeah, the side-by-side Nexus pic I found really demonstrates that. It's not nearly as disparate outdoors, but indoors it's pretty noticeable. And it is just the screen tech - screen techs have their pros and cons, black reproduction is only one aspect of screen quality.
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Exactly. Doesn't bother me really. At least its not an issue that hinders the actual performance of the device like the epic 4g touch and its loss of signal issues that everyone is having.
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Not a performance issue but could be an easy software fix just have the keys dim with the screen. Sent htc an email so other versions might be better.. but I'm sure once we get root there might be a fix for it
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Not a performance issue but could be an easy software fix just have the keys dim with the screen. Sent htc an email so other versions might be better.. but I'm sure once we get root there might be a fix for it
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Do the lights dim? Most LEDs are only capable of being on or off..
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Do the lights dim? Most LEDs are only capable of being on or off..
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All the LEDs are capable of being dimmed, you just have to give them less power.
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All the LEDs are capable of being dimmed, you just have to give them less power.
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Not terribly on-topic, but LEDs are generally actually dimmed via pulse-width modulation - basically, if you want 50% brightness, you turn them on for 50% of the time, off 50% of the time, at >60Hz. Among other things, LED color depends on current - so supplying less current would not only make them dimmer, but change the color.
Ever since the .33 update my screen colors look like they did when the tab was in power save mode (on the original firmware). This still occurs with ICS and I have tried a factory reset and it has not worked.
My reds appear to be orange. When looking at my thunderbolt's screen, the colors look much more saturated (and a lot better) in comparison. This was not the case when I first got the tablet.
Is anyone aware of a fix for this issue? I bought from gamestop on Dec 21, so I think I might be able to exchange it if necessary, unless there is a fix.
Although I don't experience none of these and my display looks great, I'd say just return it. If you truly feel that's the case, just exchange it then. Chances are very high next device won't have issue. Another person brought same issue up before but he was like the only one experiencing it. Everyone else who came into thread said everything was fine with theirs. plus interpretations of colors are subjective to each person. Not everyone sees things exactly the same. what may seem orangish to you may be deep red to the next man. Just exchange it before your time runs out.
Yeah, I guess that's what I'll do.
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It looks like this
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3354073/P1010808.JPG
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(taken from other user with same issue, looks exactly the same for me)
I'd like others to go here http://www.abchomestore.com/colortest/color_test.htm
and post your screens, for comparison.
I took the screenshot.
edit: you are right. I can see the difference. my colors are alot darker n vibrant. yours does looked kinda washed out or lighter. hmmmm....I wonder why yours is like that. So this is affecting some users then but not all as you can see from my screenshot. Maybe you should pm Gary Key, Asus representative and give him link to this thread. I'm sure he would take a screenshot with his also to compare.
it does look like yours is stuck in powersavings mode. Maybe you should gather the others you know with same issue and make this the official thread for it. So all of you can be centralized here n Gary can address it.
mine only look washed out when in eco mode, switching to balanced or performance mode turns them normal.
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I took the screenshot.
edit: you are right. I can see the difference. my colors are alot darker n vibrant. yours does looked kinda washed out or lighter. hmmmm....I wonder why yours is like that. So this is affecting some users then but not all as you can see from my screenshot. Maybe you should pm Gary Key, Asus representative and give him link to this thread. I'm sure he would take a screenshot with his also to compare.
it does look like yours is stuck in powersavings mode. Maybe you should gather the others you know with same issue and make this the official thread for it. So all of you can be centralized here n Gary can address it.
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Thanks, I'll PM him and send a link to here.
demandarin said:
I took the screenshot.
edit: you are right. I can see the difference. my colors are alot darker n vibrant. yours does looked kinda washed out or lighter. hmmmm....I wonder why yours is like that. So this is affecting some users then but not all as you can see from my screenshot. Maybe you should pm Gary Key, Asus representative and give him link to this thread. I'm sure he would take a screenshot with his also to compare.
it does look like yours is stuck in powersavings mode. Maybe you should gather the others you know with same issue and make this the official thread for it. So all of you can be centralized here n Gary can address it.
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If there was a problem with the display would a screenshot actually capture that? I don't think it would. Like when I take pictures on my sgs2 the pics look very saturated due to the screen, but when I transfer to my computer, it doesn't represent that.
Not saying your screen isn't fine. I just don't know if a screenshot could show one way or the other.
Yeah you would need to take a picture of the screen with a camera to actually show the bad color saturation. But I think other people are not having this same problem as a few of us are. I think it can be fixed with software, but I don't know if I should wait or just try to exchange at gamestop today
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If there was a problem with the display would a screenshot actually capture that? I don't think it would. Like when I take pictures on my sgs2 the pics look very saturated due to the screen, but when I transfer to my computer, it doesn't represent that.
Not saying your screen isn't fine. I just don't know if a screenshot could show one way or the other.
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well for one, that screenshot I took looks exactly like that color test looks on my screen.
2nd. my display of color test looks alot darker than his pic he took with camera. So i can tell either way there is an obvious difference. His looks like its in powersaving mode. mine looks like in normal mode. all my colors look right n very vibrant and colors look like they supposed to. not washed out like from his pic.
Plus from what you saying, taking a picture of screen with a camera will more than likely not truly represent the colors seen. it could easily distort or oversaturate or maybe even washed out. Taking a screenshot with Prime built in screenshot feature will show you a shot exactly how it appears on the display. not distorted or any unwanted fx added to it. So the screenshot I posted is exactly how the colors look on the Prime.
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Taking a screenshot with Prime built in screenshot feature will show you a shot exactly how it appears on the display. not distorted or any unwanted fx added to it. So the screenshot I posted is exactly how the colors look on the Prime.
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the pictures from screenshot display on other devices still looks diff. so to have a 100% fair comparison it must be done hands on or eyes on it physically. displaying the same picture
posting a screenshot doesn't help at all.. i can also take a screenshot and get the same colors you get on your shot, that doesn't represent the colors actually shown on the display though.
i'm already in the process of sending mine back, otherwise i'd make a couple more comparison shots showing single colors only. the colors are definitely not right, another person i asked noticed the same.
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posting a screenshot doesn't help at all.. i can also take a screenshot and get the same colors you get on your shot, that doesn't represent the colors actually shown on the display though.
i'm already in the process of sending mine back, otherwise i'd make a couple more comparison shots showing single colors only. the colors are definitely not right, another person i asked noticed the same.
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well I know my screen colors on my display don't look washed out like that. Still don't get how taking a pic with a camera, that will distort/alter image is better than a screenshot. too many variables that can affect the picture when taken with a cam or phone cam. The megapixels size, any default fx added, camera quality, size of lens..etc... no two cams will take exact same looking picture. There will be variances in color displays. I dunno..lol the screenshot I took, IMO, looks exactly like the color test looks when going to page OK web browser. Plus another clear indicator of power saving mode was how the icons look on homescreens. powersavings mode would have icons looking less detailed, washed out n almost cartoonist looking. Mines doesn't look like that. I was the 1st. one when prime first came out to point out the display color and contrast change when going into powersavings mode. I think I talked about it also in my "Performance modes of Prime/tegra3" thread. in my sig.
you all might be on the older firmware like Gary described before n y'all stuck in power savings mode. I have very good eyesight n my display looks great. if my display was washed out like those pics then I would notice it immediately.
take a screenshot of your homescreen icons n I can tell if it looks like in powersavings mode or not.
look at mines below n see how all the icons n everything looks crisp. nothing washed out or cartoonish looking. Screenshot looks like Exact replica of my display.
Do you notice a difference in screen when you flick between the power modes? Because I don't... My screen also washed out/yellow tint
Is it firmware fixable?
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just sent my unit back and ordered another one. i hope it's gonna be different.
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look at mines below n see how all the icons n everything looks crisp. nothing washed out or cartoonish looking. Screenshot looks like Exact replica of my display.
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Nice wallpaper; know where I can find a copy?
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Nice wallpaper; know where I can find a copy?
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widewallpapers.net
ill post it up here then you can save it. Its 1920x1080
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well for one, that screenshot I took looks exactly like that color test looks on my screen.
2nd. my display of color test looks alot darker than his pic he took with camera. So i can tell either way there is an obvious difference. His looks like its in powersaving mode. mine looks like in normal mode. all my colors look right n very vibrant and colors look like they supposed to. not washed out like from his pic.
Plus from what you saying, taking a picture of screen with a camera will more than likely not truly represent the colors seen. it could easily distort or oversaturate or maybe even washed out. Taking a screenshot with Prime built in screenshot feature will show you a shot exactly how it appears on the display. not distorted or any unwanted fx added to it. So the screenshot I posted is exactly how the colors look on the Prime.
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What I am saying is that if you have 2 devices, 1 with "correct" colours and one with washed out colours, take the same screenshot of the same website, pic or whatever, If you were to view both of them on the same device they would look exactly the same. The data you are taking with a screenshot is the same with both devices (basically saying what colour each pixel should show). How your personal screen represents that data doesn't change anything. So a screenshot can't prove one way or another good screen colours.
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Do you notice a difference in screen when you flick between the power modes? Because I don't... My screen also washed out/yellow tint
Is it firmware fixable?
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I seem to get a very subtle change when I switch to power saver and then back. It's not nearly so great a difference as it was prior to .33, but I do believe it's there.
And if my colors are indeed washed out, I certainly haven't noticed. I'd love to see this problem side-by-side with a known working unit to see just how much the difference is. I'm not getting anything from the pics and screenshots in this thread.
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What I am saying is that if you have 2 devices, 1 with "correct" colours and one with washed out colours, take the same screenshot of the same website, pic or whatever, If you were to view both of them on the same device they would look exactly the same. The data you are taking with a screenshot is the same with both devices (basically saying what colour each pixel should show). How your personal screen represents that data doesn't change anything. So a screenshot can't prove one way or another good screen colours.
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ditto.. screenshots never represent exactly what you see on your display
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What I am saying is that if you have 2 devices, 1 with "correct" colours and one with washed out colours, take the same screenshot of the same website, pic or whatever, If you were to view both of them on the same device they would look exactly the same. The data you are taking with a screenshot is the same with both devices (basically saying what colour each pixel should show). How your personal screen represents that data doesn't change anything. So a screenshot can't prove one way or another good screen colours.
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ditto.. screenshots never represent exactly what you see on your display
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I guess so then..lol. all I know is that that screenshot I posted looks like a carbon copy of my display. not enhanced or anything like.
Either way I know how the washed out power saving mode looks. It seemed to me like they changed it out from a later update in HC and ICS. zit isn't like before where as soon as you put it in powersavings mode the contrast n details would change. now it seems to do nothing. For me its more like its permanently in balanced or Normal mode colors. It looks great to me.
OK, someone experiencing the washed out colors, take a pic with your cam of your homescreen then have a screenshot of exact same screen next to it.
Plus a camera can't show good color quality when you taking a picture of a LCD or computer screen. That's what I'm not getting. Why use a cam that obviously distorts the real image of a digital display? Cam taking picture is converted to data. Screenshot is converted to data. only difference is with screen shot you don't have to worry about the various variables that would affect the final picture. you can take 2 camera and take a pic of the same thing and there would be slot of differences. Color, temperature, contrast, hue, brightness, etc.. Plus showing another device, a phone, for side by side comparison isn't a true test. phone display is different. resolution different, color, contrast. etc...
Hello,
I've purchased 2 Lumia 920s now and both times the camera sensor had lots of hot pixels. If you could, would you please perform a test?
Set camera to 'Night mode'
Set exposure to '2'
Set ISO to '800'
Switch off auto-focus light
Switch off flash
Then:
Lock yourself in the bathroom and turn off the light.
Take a picture in the dark (as close to pitch black as possible)
Upload the photo to your computer
Turn off the lights around you and your monitor
View it on your computer and zoom way in
Look for any bright spots/dead pixels
Describe/upload what you see
My results:
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you first.
It is not uncommon for cameras to display hot pixels under those conditions. Even high end cameras can do it.
Now take a picture in conditions like everyone else and see if you see them.
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you first.
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Yeah let me do some cropping and zooming. The regular picture is too large to display.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
It is not uncommon for cameras to display hot pixels under those conditions. Even high end cameras can do it.
Now take a picture in conditions like everyone else and see if you see them.
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I've realized that, but my unit seems to be worse than others. My friend doesn't have hot pixels on hers at all : (
hawc1506 said:
Yeah let me do some cropping and zooming. The regular picture is too large to display.
I've realized that, but my unit seems to be worse than others. My friend doesn't have hot pixels on hers at all : (
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What im saying is it happens to the best of the best. Take pictures normally like everyone else. You wont see them then and they wont effect your picture quality. Nothing to be concerned about. You can take 2 identical cameras and one might do it while the other doesnt. And its only usually gonna happen under longer exposures. You shouldn't be worried. And it doesn't surprise me that a few of your pixels went retarded based on the shooting conditions you described above. Take it easy partner..
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Those pixels absolutely ruin that photo of nothing!!
I experienced the event horizon looking at your pictures.
Honestly, my screen has more dust specs than the hot pixels on your screen.
I hope you're not kidding with this thread. That's definitely normal... I first thought it was a prank.
You should need a minimal amount of light. I've seen many videos on the internet where a DSLR camera was used to record videos @1080p with minimal amount of light and you can definitely see random hot pixels every while or so. As long as it's not always the same pixel it's nothing to worry about.
I know DSLRs have hot pixels. I wouldn't be worrying if it didn't show up in normal pictures, but my unit has hot pixels in normal night-time pictures and they're consistently in the same place. It was similar to this (not quite as many though).
http://www.neilcamara.com/WP_20121123_097.jpg
I've attached a photo (everything in auto settings) from my first unit. It only had 1 hot pixel. I would've kept it if it weren't for flexing/clicking polycarbonate. My second one had 7.
I took a black picture just to show the pixels.
I'm not trying to annoy anyone, but none of my friends' units have hot pixels as bad as mine, even under the same testing conditions.
Either way, that unit is now on its way back.
Thanks for your help.
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I know DSLRs have hot pixels. I wouldn't be worrying if it didn't show up in normal pictures, but my unit has hot pixels in normal night-time pictures and they're consistently in the same place. It was similar to this (not quite as many though).
http://www.neilcamara.com/WP_20121123_097.jpg
I've attached a photo (everything in auto settings) from my first unit. It only had 1 hot pixel. I would've kept it if it weren't for flexing/clicking polycarbonate. My second one had 7.
I took a black picture just to show the pixels.
I'm not trying to annoy anyone, but none of my friends' units have hot pixels as bad as mine, even under the same testing conditions.
Either way, that unit is now on its way back.
Thanks for your help.
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If your unit has hot pixels close to the one you linked then it's another story. It should not happen.
Hot pixels happen on any DSLRs regardless the price range. What those DSLRs do is when you shoot anything with over 1 second, they automatically (can be turned off) take another picture with equal time but without letting any light in. Then they subtract the frames to remove those hot pixels as those pixels are always on the same location. It is by no means defective unless you see them in pictures exposed within a second.
Xeon said:
If your unit has hot pixels close to the one you linked then it's another story. It should not happen.
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Not as many, but the ones on my pictures were slightly bigger, even in regular auto-mode pictures.
foxbat121 said:
Hot pixels happen on any DSLRs regardless the price range. What those DSLRs do is when you shoot anything with over 1 second, they automatically (can be turned off) take another picture with equal time but without letting any light in. Then they subtract the frames to remove those hot pixels as those pixels are always on the same location. It is by no means defective unless you see them in pictures exposed within a second.
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Yeah mine were showing up in auto-mode. I also set exposure to 0 and ISO 400. They still showed up.
Oh well, hope you guys don't have this problem! Thanks for the comments.
It is about how long the shutter opens, nothing to do with modes and isos.
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how the hell did u discover this "problem"??? lol
u make it a habit of taking pictures in rapist grade darkness?! lol lol
lol i appreciate your concern for the camera quality.. but seriously.. there is absolutely no reason to be taking a photo of darkness! lol lol
hawc1506 said:
I know DSLRs have hot pixels. I wouldn't be worrying if it didn't show up in normal pictures, but my unit has hot pixels in normal night-time pictures and they're consistently in the same place. It was similar to this (not quite as many though).
http://www.neilcamara.com/WP_20121123_097.jpg
I've attached a photo (everything in auto settings) from my first unit. It only had 1 hot pixel. I would've kept it if it weren't for flexing/clicking polycarbonate. My second one had 7.
I took a black picture just to show the pixels.
I'm not trying to annoy anyone, but none of my friends' units have hot pixels as bad as mine, even under the same testing conditions.
Either way, that unit is now on its way back.
Thanks for your help.
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Here is mine. Is this good or bad?
Puff1911 said:
how the hell did u discover this "problem"??? lol
u make it a habit of taking pictures in rapist grade darkness?! lol lol
lol i appreciate your concern for the camera quality.. but seriously.. there is absolutely no reason to be taking a photo of darkness! lol lol
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LOL I discovered it when I accidentally took a dark picture in a completely dark room. Then when I took normal night-time pictures, I noticed that the hot pixels were there too.
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Here is mine. Is this good or bad?
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Looks fine to me. You don't have any bright spots lol
I had photos like this in the dark and sent it back:
I took the photo with night mode and i think everything else was set to auto.
I hope they will fix it.
Axefield said:
I had photos like this in the dark and sent it back:
I took the photo with night mode and i think everything else was set to auto.
I hope they will fix it.
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Mine was similar except with bright red dots as well.
I wonder if the Portico update contains hot-pixel filtering. My friends on AT&T don't have this problem.
I experienced this issue on my first 920 and promptly exchanged it for a new one which does not suffer from this issue. Unfortunately the new one seems to suffer from the rapid random battery drain ...