This may be a stupid question, but when buying the Jetstream from AT&T, paying for the $849 no-commitment model and selecting the $14.99 per month Data plan, will there be an early termination fee for cancelling? I wouldn't have thought so but I want to check
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Cam
Since you pay full price, no penalty for starting/stopping service.
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This question is for anyone on the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan) with T-Mobile. I gave T-Mobile a call today and a representative told me that I can upgrade my phone with a 2 year contract even though I'm on the Even more Plus plan. I think they're doing this because T-Mobile took away the non-contract plans. If you look on the T-Mobile website, you can no longer sign up for the Even More Plus plan if you're a new customer, you have to pay the contract plan prices which are higher.
My question is, has anyone tried upgrading their phone with the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan)?
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This question is for anyone on the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan) with T-Mobile. I gave T-Mobile a call today and a representative told me that I can upgrade my phone with a 2 year contract even though I'm on the Even more Plus plan. I think they're doing this because T-Mobile took away the non-contract plans. If you look on the T-Mobile website, you can no longer sign up for the Even More Plus plan if you're a new customer, you have to pay the contract plan prices which are higher.
My question is, has anyone tried upgrading their phone with the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan)?
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AFAIK, T-Mobile removed the EM+ plan option from the website months ago to prevent customer confusion (or some crap reason like that). New customers can still get onto EM+ over the phone and by going into the T-Mobile shops.
Also, I do not think you can get upgrades while on EM+ since it requires you to actually buy a phone unsubsidized (full price). The only way I could explain why the rep would've told you that would be if they though you were swapping from EM+ to EM. If you were on the normal EM plan, then you should be able to get upgrades and discounts on newer phones after a certain amount of time.
If you use an upgrade/discount to purchase a new phone you will *always* be put back under a 2 year contract rate plan. With EM+ you *always* pay full price for the device (and EM+ plans have not been taken away... yet.)
The T-Mobile representative was ready to give me an upgrade, she was on my account reading my upgrade prices. She said I can't upgrade online because of my plan, but she said I can upgrade through the phone or at a store. It didn't require me to switch to a contract plan. When I migrated to non-contract plan, they said I can't switch back if I wanted to. Not sure about this yet so I will go to a store today to confirm.
You can still upgrade but you have to pay the full price for the device, and all theyre doing is swapping your sim, they took away upgrades on EM+ in november when they took my $300.00 in upgrade credit back
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DEFINITIONOFREAL said:
You can still upgrade but you have to pay the full price for the device, and all theyre doing is swapping your sim, they took away upgrades on EM+ in november when they took my $300.00 in upgrade credit back
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I'm on the EM+ plan, and she said my price for the g2x and mytouch is only $217. She was on my account looking at the prices. I know the full price of the g2x is $499, not $217.
Pretty sure non contract plans are still available might have to go to the store and talk to a rep
and if not you cant call customer server and ask for android preferred internet for $20 doesn't matter how long you have had plan
Sound like she was giving you the subsidized price you would pay out of pocket. The rest will be on your bill split between 19 months.
That comes out to roughly $15 per month extra on your bill. Sounds about right.
Greetings fellow FLYER/VIEW peeps!
Just a quick few questions for those in the know here... I have a contract free EVO View and would like to be able to go to month to month perhaps every other month either on the 1gb or 3gb plan.
I went to two Sprint stores (one corp and one affiliate store)... the corp store told me that I had to sign a 2 year contract while the affiliate store said that I didn't have to.
Does anyone know about this?
I also would like to know if in fact Sprint does allow you to go without a contract, will they charge an activation fee? I would hate to pay an activation fee if I were to activate and deactivate a few times a year.
Thanks!
AFAIK you must sign a contract only way to do off contract is flash it to boost mobile
truthkillszz said:
AFAIK you must sign a contract only way to do off contract is flash it to boost mobile
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Not quite. If you want one of the reasonable monthly plans with Sprint listed on the website and in the store, you have to sign a contract. Some people have managed to convince Sprint to give them those prices without a contract, but the overwhelming majority of folks haven't had any luck with that.
If you go through Sprint Zone on the tablet, you will be given off-contract options. But they're much more expensive and give you next to nothing for the price:
- $14.99 per day (150MB limit on network; 50MB limit off network)
- $29.99 per week (500MB limit on network; 100MB limit off network)
- $49.99 per month (1.5GB limit on network; 150MB limit off network)
If you go with one of those, your service will automatically cut off after the time period elapses or after you use your allotted amount of data (whichever comes first).
So unless you want to sign a contract with Sprint (or are able to convince them to give the on contract prices off contract), flashing to Boost really is the best way to go. The off contract options are ridiculous in my opinion, but at least they're there in case of an emergency or something.
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Not quite. If you want one of the reasonable monthly plans with Sprint listed on the website and in the store, you have to sign a contract. Some people have managed to convince Sprint to give them those prices without a contract, but the overwhelming majority of folks haven't had any luck with that.
If you go through Sprint Zone on the tablet, you will be given off-contract options. But they're much more expensive and give you next to nothing for the price:
- $14.99 per day (150MB limit on network; 50MB limit off network)
- $29.99 per week (500MB limit on network; 100MB limit off network)
- $49.99 per month (1.5GB limit on network; 150MB limit off network)
If you go with one of those, your service will automatically cut off after the time period elapses or after you use your allotted amount of data (whichever comes first).
So unless you want to sign a contract with Sprint (or are able to convince them to give the on contract prices off contract), flashing to Boost really is the best way to go. The off contract options are ridiculous in my opinion, but at least they're there in case of an emergency or something.
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Thanks for the replies truthk and bsweet!
I'll have to visit Cricket's site but do you happen to know the month-to-month pricing plans?
Also, that's crazy, so, Sprint wants a 2-year or a 1-year? Didn't verizon offer a much more friendly non-contract option? I remember when I visited Worst Buy for the launch of the OG Samsung Tab and Verizon offered the monthly off-contract plan.
I have heard of customers getting the contract rate without a contract, but I personally think the best option is to add a line and buy an iPhone 4s. Then you switch the view to that line and sell the iPhone. You'll probably pocket 400 profit on the 4s that will pay for 18 months or so of the 1gb plan.
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Just purchased a US T-Mobile Flyer. I can tether it to my AT&T phone but the idea was to get off AT&T congested network in airports and in my travels. What is the best option on prepaid plans to go with on T-Mobile? They have a $30 1GB plan but that seems high for the amount of data. Has anyone had any success using the $30 5GB Walmart plan or any other cell plan that gives more data? Thanks in advance.
there's a $30/mo no contract plan that includes 5GB of High Speed Data + 100 minutes. Anything over 5GB gets throttled but at least you won't pay overage fees
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
Will Evo-view work on T-mobil?
Didnt think you could use phones/tabs on other carriers.
But hope Im wrong, thats not a bad deal
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there's a $30/mo no contract plan that includes 5GB of High Speed Data + 100 minutes. Anything over 5GB gets throttled but at least you won't pay overage fees
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
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Will T-Mobile let me put the Flyer on this plan? I went to one store and they told me I had to use a tablet plan.
Greetings!
I pay $20/month for 1gb of data. If you call Sprint sales to activate, they'll waive the $36 activation fee. I was also able to get them to sell me the stylus pen for $40 w/free shipping. Granted, you're signing up for a 2-year contract but what I did to off-set that was use my upgrade to buy an iPhone which I plan on selling on selling to recoup my cost.
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Hi,
In the midst of the HTC One going on sale on BestBuy, i am thinking about purchasing this phone which is receiving much praise and acclamation on this website.
But before i do so, i would just like to ask if this phone can be purchased without a data plan. By this i mean if it can be purchased without the coupled fee of 'x' per month for the length of the contract, in this case 2 years. To clarify, i was wondering if it can be purchased for $99.99 buy itself so i can use an AT&T prepaid sim.
The main reason for this is because i am living in Australia where the One is vastly overpriced and i want to get a HTC One overseas so it can be unlocked and then used in Australia.
In summary, can i purchase this from from BestBuy without the monthly fees and have it unlocked so i can use it in Australia.
No. To get the $99 price you have to sign a two year contract with a data plan.
Have A Question Regarding etf. I recently had a line cancel out on my account. The etf is 350 but then I'm also getting charged an additional $65 in taxes for a total of $415. What the heck is that. When did taxes start applying in to the etf. I had an etf line a year ago and there was none of this. I even looked at the contract and online at sprint.com and it states upto $350 etf. No where does it say plus taxes. Can anyone clarify this? Any sprint employees
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Have A Question Regarding etf. I recently had a line cancel out on my account. The etf is 350 but then I'm also getting charged an additional $65 in taxes for a total of $415. What the heck is that. When did taxes start applying in to the etf. I had an etf line a year ago and there was none of this. I even looked at the contract and online at sprint.com and it states upto $350 etf. No where does it say plus taxes. Can anyone clarify this? Any sprint employees
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Yeah, based on a cursory search of their Terms and Conditions, I couldn't find anything relating to taxes on an ETF. You might want to call their billing department to see what's going on with that. Record your phone call (tell them that you're doing this, as some states require everyone to be aware of recordings), make them tell you exactly where in their Terms and Conditions this line is located. If they don't answer your questions to your satisfaction, talk to a supervisor and see what they can do for you.
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I just saw this line in Sprint's Return and Exchange Policy:
Please note that this policy may not reflect the additional return policies of our authorized third-party dealers or retailers. If you are returning a device leased through Apple Finance Services (AFS), call AFS at 1-800-216-4384.
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The taxes could be from a third-party dealer or retailer, but it doesn't sound like it. Just a heads up.
Just read it but this looks like it is due to a return within the 14 days they give you.
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I find it funny that on the Framily plan Sprint advertises no contract no ETF's yet my plan still indicates I am locked into a contract and that I will have ETF's if I cancel.
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I find it funny that on the Framily plan Sprint advertises no contract no ETF's yet my plan still indicates I am locked into a contract and that I will have ETF's if I cancel.
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You don't have a contract, unless you we're already under a contract before you switched your plan. Then you would still have until your original contract date ends. Also if your enrolled in easy pay for a new phone where u would pay monthly for it, if you we're to decided to terminate your service you would be responsible for the remainder of the phones retail price!
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MikeyLee said:
I find it funny that on the Framily plan Sprint advertises no contract no ETF's yet my plan still indicates I am locked into a contract and that I will have ETF's if I cancel.
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I believe this is due to the transition between Subsidized to Un-Subsidized phone plans... I'll try to explain this in a way that makes sense, since I had to ask a lot of questions in order to fully understand it myself. In order to understand why there's even an ETF, we have to understand how subsidized phones worked and why Sprint (and soon all other carriers) will move away from them.
Subsidized Phones and Early Termination Fees (ETFs)
When you buy a subsidized phone (let's say a Note III) for $200, that doesn't mean that Sprint got the phone for $200 and is now passing the savings off to you. It means that they have factored in the cost of the phone in their plan pricing. If the phone cost them $500 (at wholesale), that's $300 that they have to recoup from you over the course of two years. If you get your phone and decide to leave after 6 months, they're not going to recoup $240 (assuming they split it evenly over the 24 months, which I doubt). That's the philosophy behind the ETF. If you leave early, they aren't going to recoup from their subsidized phones, and they lost out on a decent amount of cash.
That's also why the ETF decreases as you get closer to that magic 2-year mark. They've already recouped most of their "investment" into you as a customer, so they can't charge you as much for an ETF.
Now, the Subsidized phone scheme has always been a means to entice new customers and to keep existing customers. If you can offer a $700 smart phone for $250, it's great marketing! But, I bet they are making less money when they have to subsidize a smart phone than when they offer a "dumb" flip-phone for free. When smartphones (I'm thinking back to the days of the Treo) were relegated back to the nerds and businessmen, they could afford to make less money on the subsidized plan and still make a ton on the subsidized flip phones.
Verizon must have loved my in-laws, because they had the same "dumb" flip-phones for about 5 years, but were paying the same price as the High School senior who had a subsidized iPhone. In my opinion, the in-laws were paying the subsidy price of the iPhone.
After the iPhone and the mass-market flooding of smart phones, more and more people started getting smart phones. When looking at phones, the consumer can easily argue an extra $50 to get a top-end smartphone over a medium-level phone. Which should work out fine, but it also means that Sprint (or Verizon or ATT or whoever) is not going to make as much money (due to the subsidized portion of the phone cost being higher). I've even heard that they started losing money on some of the top-end phones since the subsidized costs were higher than the recouping they were doing. (note: the previous sentence is hearsay and no credible source has been given to me).
At first, Sprint (and others) tried to recoup those losses by incurring a "smartphone" fee. I remember the first time I saw a $10 "Premium Data" fee, I knew it was bull**** (pardon the language), but I was also stuck in a contract. Despite much arguing with various supervisors, I still ended up paying it, but not before threatening to leave numerous times (even with the ETF). If it weren't for my 18% "employee" discount, I would've switched.
Un-Subsidized Phones and the Future of Phone Buying (IMO)
I think the Framily Plan is interesting. They are basically taking the subsidy cost out of the phone plan and having the customer pay for what they actually get. In my opinion, this is much better.
Yes, I get a gut reaction when I have to pay full-price for my latest-and-greatest phone (since I'm so used to my subsidized price). But for those customers who are OK with keeping their technology a bit longer or buying second-hand phones, they can make some pretty significant savings. It also means that you don't have to buy your phone from Sprint or Verizon. The customer has more options when it comes to buying their phone.
So, all-in-all, I think it's a good move and I can see all carriers moving towards this model in the future.
Transition between Subsidized and Un-Subsidized Plans
This is where I believe you, MikeyLee, are stuck. Sprint can't recoup their losses from your subsidized phone because you're now paying $25/month on the Framily plan. This is why they initially had the whole "existing members can't join the Framily" crap. They loosened that to some members being "merge eligible," meaning they were allowed to switch to the Framily Plan. I believe the only check for "merge eligibility" was whether or not Sprint had recouped enough of their subsidy.
For those of us who were merge eligible but who still had time before their old two-year contract was up, Sprint also has an ETF to cover the remainder of the original two-year agreement (and recoup their losses from you leaving and not ponying up for your subsidized phone).
In Closing
I personally like the Un-Subsidized plan. For me, I went from paying $150/month down to $75/month (2 lines, one with unlimited, not counting phone monthly payments). Even when I factor in the cost of two new top-tier smart phone every 2 years, I still save $700 over the two years.
It also makes more sense for people like my in-laws, who don't need (or want) the latest-and-greatest and would rather keep their phones for decades if they could.
But yes, the transition between the two is inherently going to be messy. Hold out to see the real value of un-subsidized plans!