My first Week for HTC Titan - HTC Titan

NOTE: I'm having some problem with the image, i will upload them as soon as possible. Sorry for this.
Quick Jump:
Tuesday 10.18 Build Design
Wednesday 10.19 - OS Tour, Performance
Alright, i have my Titan X310E, first come from England right here on U.S . Many people here still questioning about it , so i decided to be the tester for any questions that you guys may have with Titan.
Monday (10.17)
I was in terrible sick , but the Titan came from USPS Express made me really pleased. The box look like other HTCs at Europe... Nothing much could be tell from outside.
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I opened the box and pull out this beautiful device, once again, i have the happy feeling when i first have my HD7.
My First Impression? This thing is just bigger than my Schubert and that is all i care. Bigger screen, bigger phone, still thin, sexy and yes, metal cover.
I went through the first set up for the phone, it is kinda lame when i have to set the Time Zone manually, while my HD7 can set it automatically everytime i install a new ROM or reset my phone. Maybe it can be done only if i am in England, where you have only one time zone...
Okay, that was quick,and yes, the screen, is nice. I can even see it way better than my HD7, even the seller has already put a crappy screen protector from the ipad over it (he cut the screen protector to be fit). Low DPI? I think you have an eagle eyes to see those stuffs. And yes, this thing has the front-facing Camera, 1.3mp, equal to my old Nokia 5310. But you have nothing to use it except you gonna post pictures of yourself in the bathroom on Facebook tomorrow with terrible quality.
We do have a small button on the bottom of the phone to open the back case, and yes it is a brilliant idea , just 2 piece of metal for the whole phone. I am impressed.
How is it feel in your hand? I am a "big-phone" user, i had HD2 before, i had HD7 Before, i played with Dell Streak for a little bit, so this baby right here isn't a big problem with me. But it could be problem with people who have small hand ( i considered myself to have a medium-size hand). No , you are not gonna buy this for your girlfriend.
The Phone is thin, and it is sexy. HTC always does a good job in making a sexy look for their phone. It definitely feel comfortable in your hand, i don't doubt that. The Micro-USB port is on the left side of the phone, which is the sign of "up-coming" Dock for Titan from HTC. The Button has more "feeling" than the HD7, it is plastic, but has decent feel when you press it.
This phone isn't released in States yet, so mine right here is the UK version, which is considered as World Phone, the frequency they use is different with T-Mobile USA , so you are not gonna have 3G for this on T-Mobile. I will swap to AT&T in the few days and tell you guys more about it.
HSPA/WCDMA 850/900/2100Mhz (AT&T should be able to Provide this thing 3G or i will sell it and get an AT&T version later)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900Mhz)
Well, i was impressed by this bought except the non-3g frequency for T-Mobile. I am still using it today , so you guys will have the post of my experience tonight.

Thank you for your nice review
What about the screen quality ? (not the dpi but the glass quality ?)

Toin3 said:
Thank you for your nice review
What about the screen quality ? (not the dpi but the glass quality ?)
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I would say it is good. Not the best but it is good-perfect.
It is Gorilla Glass.

Tuesday (10.18)
Alright, i was sick yesterday so i can't really go over the OS of the Titan. We both know Titan use Mango 7.10.7720, which is RTM, quite familar with XDA People in this Windows Phone Subforum. The Titan also come with Second generation Snapdragon Qualcomm 1.5ghz CPU, a flash internal memory (16GB) from Samsung, not a high-speed microsd card anymore. I would say there is a significant jump for Titan in performance.
I tried out Fruit Ninja on Titan. And i must say, the performance is way different from HD7. When you hit the Frenzy banana and start to make 7,8,9 Combos , it is just all smooth, when you can see notice-able lag on HD7.
Or you can also compare the heavy game monopoly, where the frame rate can be seen much higher in Titan, compare to HD7.
Titan Rank #2 in Performance Chart (Following WP Bench Chart). But i will say to you guys one thing, i have seen lag on Titan. Review on several website can say it doesn't have lag at all, which is wrong, you can see the choppy performance sometime when using, but it could be the first built of Titan OS, which is not fully optimized for Titan yet, we will wait and see, i have several fun stuffs for you to know about the mango on titan later in this post.
The Back Cover may be hard to remove for new people. But all you need to do is press the button on the bottom of phone and slide the phone out.
The Back cover is claimed to be 100% Aluminum, and of course, it light. Not too heavy compare to the HD7.
Titan is definitely Longer than the HD7, but in fact, it is thinner than HD7, you can see it when trying to compare the 2 line by line, or just your feeling when holding 2 devices in the hands.
And one thing, you will not get the Kickstand on Titan, which is useful when watching video.
Camera, which is nice, i don't have much time to test it, but it is good in my opinion, the picture come out in good quality. 8MP seem to be good, and i am not a person who concen much about the quality of the picture.
Here is an example of the Titan's picture
The sound quality of Titan is very nice. The volume is also good, i rate it as 8.5/10 for loudness, you can turn the volume up to 10-14/30 and you have the loudness of HD7 on 30/30
Video Playback Quality on Titan is also great, from 720p Call of Duty Trailer to Full HD 1080p Mike Posner Music Video, titan handle it all. With a good headphone, you might want to check out thr SRS Lab 5.1 Surround when you play Video on Titan.
The 4.7 inch Screen is really great regarding the limit in Resolution. it also make the keyboard bigger and easier to type. Here is the picture compare the screen of Titan and HD7, also the size of the keyboard.
By the end of the day, i found out something sound stupid to me and maybe for American user also. This device is from UK, so, i think Microsoft put a different version of Microsoft Tellme in it, or this phone OS version/firmware is just retarded enough to not recognize my voice of command.
Sorry, because i am not American, my English is not that perfect, but when my old T-Mobile USA HD7 can understand my foreigner voice and do exactly what i want, there isn't a point that the Titan can't.
Here is the video i recorded:
http://youtu.be/ZdKlkckr73M
(maybe you will have a good laugh because of my english, lol)
When i tried to tell Titan to open an application (not a built-in Apps) like HTC Hub, it is nearly impossible for the phone to recognize it, and it just keep saying that it didn't catch that or i don't have the application installed on it. and it is more stupid, when i speak to both HD7 and Titan, the HD7 does recognize, but not the Titan. I am not sure this is Software-Related issue or Hardware-Related Issue, or my English is just retarded somehow. LOL.
But when i tried to talk to the phone to text some one or open basic apps, it does its job really good.I am not sure what is the problem here but i will need several other US Customer who have the UK version to confirm this with me. the version of UK also have a different respond sound with US version.
And yes, i even found out, that there is no Turn-By-Turn Voice Navigation for me here, the Unites States of America, where my HD7 can talk whole day and take me go around St.Pete. I tried to tap the screen several times and nothing happen. I also mailed HTC Technical Support and post on Windows Phone forum about this issue.
The Phone comes with the standard HTC headphone , which is hated by people
That is end for my Tuesday Experience, tomorrow, there will be test on Battery Useagle and jean, pocket friendly...

Strike_Eagle said:
I would say it is good. Not the best but it is good-perfect.
It is Gorilla Glass.
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Very good news, I impatiently wait the mine

Thanks for providing this review, it is sounding like a really good device so far.
I am really eager to get hold of one of these

really nice! Has the Titan more option and functions in the photo settings menu?

Okay, wednesday.
I went out with 70% of battery and returned with 30%, from 7AM to 3PM, light use, Wifi On, Games for 30 mins, 45 mins on IE, medium light, using XDA apps for about 20 mins and whole bunch of other stuffs.
I think this battery really impressed me. With my HD7 Full charge, i can easily get lower than 20% with light use in day. So yes, Battery performance is good. You can get it full charge by the morning and have it through day 2 night (light use).
Pocket: I wear jeans almost everyday, so, the HD7 fit my pocket nicely, also the Titan. I feel like almost no different between stucking HD7 or Titan in my pocket. They are both hard to pull out when you sit, especially in the car with the seat belt on. Which is common issue of big phone.
Also visit AT&T Store today to ask about 3G Frequency, and they seem to be very strange with the Titan, they don't even know the plan of AT&T on Titan. They seem to know nothing about the Frequency compatibility of the phone. They just give me the answer that my Titan will not get 3G on AT&T, while this phone support 850mhz on HSPA, which is the standard of AT&T 3G Frequency at United States. I am not really happy with the low-tech and useless advise from the "technican" at AT&T store. I will take an AT&T Simcard from Somebody tomorrow and take a test if it can receive 3G Signal.
I returned home and decide to try the Voice Command to open stuffs on HD7 and Titan again, and this time, i had a score of 8-1 to HD7, i tried my best in English pronunciation, but only HD7 did recognize my voice, not the Titan.
HTC Support is trying to tell me to softreset the Phone, and Reset back to Factory Setting, which i have done several times already. Maybe my voice is retarded so the phone can't recognize it. I will sell it to XDA-Member here or Ebay after the review, who ever come first. So if you are interested, just PM me.
I have the new video are being uploaded now.
Tomorrow will be the request of you guys. And i decide not to use it full week, so you guys who will buy it will have a fresh device.
Video Uploaded :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8hRInVbDD0

Did you change the region?
Did you change the region. I believe the speech recognition engine that is being used processes the language differently based on region. The british accent probably requires different voice patterns to process. I noticed in your youtube video that the Titans speech replies have a british accent. So I assume the speech recognition is also using british speech patterns.
I googled this question and found something similiar that seems to match my same thoughts on the issue. Unfortunately, I don't think it solved the problem.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7-wpfeatures/speech-recognition-looking-for-a-british-accent-in/119e996c-e3f1-43f9-973e-3abecb8d09b6
If you can't turn it off, try speaking with a british accent...

KinoCode said:
Did you change the region. I believe the speech recognition engine that is being used processes the language differently based on region. The british accent probably requires different voice patterns to process. I noticed in your youtube video that the Titans text speech replies have a british accent. So I assume the speech recognition is also using british speech patterns.
I googled this question and found something similiar that seems to match my same thoughts on the issue. Unfortunately, I don't think it solved the problem.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7-wpfeatures/speech-recognition-looking-for-a-british-accent-in/119e996c-e3f1-43f9-973e-3abecb8d09b6
If you can't turn it off, try speaking with a british accent...
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That is my main concern. I have already switched everything i could find in setting to United States. I don't know if American English and British English are way different in pronunciation. Or my voice is just retarded. LOL.

HTC Titan on Amazon
I just bought an unlocked HTC Titan from Amazon today (from 3rd party company Expansys).
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-titan-windows-phone-7-5-smartphone-unlocked-black-221944/
I'm assuming that it's compatible with AT&Ts 3G network, but after reading your post today, I'm a little worried. The specs show that it supports the same 3G bands as AT&T, so I'm hopeful that you are able to get the 3G bands working tomorrow when you try the AT&T sim card.
Please update us tomorrow. I'm very interested to find out. Thanks for your great week long review!

KinoCode said:
I just bought an unlocked HTC Titan from Amazon today (from 3rd party company Expansys).
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-titan-windows-phone-7-5-smartphone-unlocked-black-221944/
I'm assuming that it's compatible with AT&Ts 3G network, but after reading your post today, I'm a little worried. The specs show that it supports the same 3G bands as AT&T, so I'm hopeful that you are able to get the 3G bands working tomorrow when you try the AT&T sim card.
Please update us tomorrow. I'm very interested to find out. Thanks for your great week long review!
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according to 2 "high-level" guy at XDA (drkfngthdragnlrd and prjkthack, our Titan will be able to get 3G on AT&T, since the phone does support HSPA/WCDMA 850mhz Frequency, which is match with AT&T Standard 3G Frequency.
This article right here was posted on 2009:
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/24/att-3g-network-going-850mhz-nationwide-by-2010/
I strongly believe that the Titan will get the 3G on AT&T. I will keep you guys posted about my experience.
I also found out the phone you buy on Amazon , which cost $700 if i am not wrong. But oh well, good luck if you have the UK version , which you can talk English to, have no idea if you have the German version or something like that, LOL.

It propably won't be long before there will be a USA version of an XDA ROM that you can flash. So maybe soon, your phone will recognize you again.

KinoCode said:
It propably won't be long before there will be a USA version of an XDA ROM that you can flash. So maybe soon, your phone will recognize you again.
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Well, Microsoft tellme is a nice feature to have, i don't really use it like really often. , because i know i am foreigner, and my English skill is not good, so, sometime, you mean to talk in the good way, but the phone understand it in bad way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RiU8GPlsZqE
Look at that video, you probably laugh you ass off , but that is common issue of foreigner like me, but i am so happy that my english skill is not that extremely terrible like the guy in the video.
But it is useful to hear and reply the messege without taking the phone out.
and yes, i also hope XDA can have a custom rom, or someway to install the US ROM version, and get update through Zune for it. The Goldcard Technique is no longer useable on Titan when it has no MicroSD card.

whats the lowdown on battery life?

Magpir said:
whats the lowdown on battery life?
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No my friend, the 1600mah Battery give you a full day of hard playing with Titan, which is far better than HD7's 1230mah one.

Strike_Eagle said:
No my friend, the 1600mah Battery give you a full day of hard playing with Titan, which is far better than HD7's 1230mah one.
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my HD7 also gives me a full day with 20% left by night
Light moderate usage
We need more details ..because 1600 mah sounds good
but that large screen size/type may offset any gains in battery life
TItan is using SLCD, of TFT LCD?

SLCD and it seems like a much better SLCD than that found on Sensation.

Magpir said:
my HD7 also gives me a full day with 20% left by night
Light moderate usage
We need more details ..because 1600 mah sounds good
but that large screen size/type may offset any gains in battery life
TItan is using SLCD, of TFT LCD?
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The screen is fabulous and is a very high quality SLCD panel.
For me, the battery life is close to double my HD7. Partly because its a new battery, but it is fantastic. This is my first smartphone (and I have had a few) that gets close to lasting a second day let alone gets into a second day!

The Jones said:
The screen is fabulous and is a very high quality SLCD panel.
For me, the battery life is close to double my HD7. Partly because its a new battery, but it is fantastic. This is my first smartphone (and I have had a few) that gets close to lasting a second day let alone gets into a second day!
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ok...thanks for the info

Related

How many are breaking!?

I will be purchasing one soon, but i see alot of problems! Is this just because no one posts "everything is good" and most posts are just going to be "mine broke"?
including, leds/trackball light, broken pixels, screen gap etc
also is there any thing in common between the broken ones? Ex mostly white ones are breaking
and does htc offer a warranty at all?, i found the hero for 580 usd w/ free shipping but no return policy/warranty...this is scaring me!
Should i get white with teflon coating or brown which i sort of like more?
also i plan on rooting the hero, and i want to be clear on if you can put it back to normal after rooting if i have to return to htc.
one last thing, a few posts said "mine died"... is this totally dead? will they be able to see if it was rooted in this case?
Sorry for the long post!
ps, please post color and (maybe model number???) and if its broken or not
xsirhc6x said:
I will be purchasing one soon, but i see alot of problems! Is this just because no one posts "everything is good" and most posts are just going to be "mine broke"?
including, leds/trackball light, broken pixels, screen gap etc
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Mine is an unlocked HTC-branded brown one. No hardware problems so far (2 weeks).
xsirhc6x said:
also is there any thing in common between the broken ones? Ex mostly white ones are breaking
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Problems with build-quality (screen gap) seems isolated to some batches of operator-branded phones.
xsirhc6x said:
and does htc offer a warranty at all?, i found the hero for 580 usd w/ free shipping but no return policy/warranty...this is scaring me!
Should i get white with teflon coating or brown which i sort of like more?
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The brown one also has a rubbery-like surface. Not sure if its teflon, but its definitely not the usual hard&glossy surface that most phones have.
xsirhc6x said:
also i plan on rooting the hero, and i want to be clear on if you can put it back to normal after rooting if i have to return to htc.
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It shouldn't be a problem. I'd also expect HTC to reload a "known good image" on any returned phone before they run any form of diagnostics test.
thanks very much!
No problems with mine either..going on two weeks, white unlocked from clove.co.uk.
No problem here
all good here... lovin my hero!!!
Mine is still perfectly fine - no issues with build/hardware at all.
personally
before i bought my htc hero
i read reviews
most of them having a go at this n that and forums complaining about broken this n that
personally and through experience
reviews are just dumb they pick out on anything and everything i suppose thats what reviews are for but some of the stuff ive read on hero are really lame
and broken hardware etc comes to one result
people not taking care of the phones ive had me hero for some time theres nothing on it not even a scratch tried scratching the screen and back with a key no marks
its a good robust phone
it wont let you down
shaji007 said:
personally
before i bought my htc hero
i read reviews
most of them having a go at this n that and forums complaining about broken this n that
personally and through experience
reviews are just dumb they pick out on anything and everything i suppose thats what reviews are for but some of the stuff ive read on hero are really lame
and broken hardware etc comes to one result
people not taking care of the phones ive had me hero for some time theres nothing on it not even a scratch tried scratching the screen and back with a key no marks
its a good robust phone
it wont let you down
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well i just have to point out something. I bought my phone a week ago and till a few days ago, me too i thought that i was a happy hero owner until i read issues about the led thing and checked my phone. I do not know if i have the headphone prob as i never checked it out. What i want to say is that some issues are present and you wont notice them unless u pay attention to them.
Do u want to say that gap issues between the screen and more than 30 ppl complaining about issues with led,trackball and headphones ( probably more but some of us do not know it yet) are due to the fact that we dont take care of our phones????
I'm gonna jump right in, and just say. i've had my hero for 2 weeks and loving it.
This is my first android phone, so I took a little getting used to, think the missus is getting fed up with me checking forums and stuff. But all in all I am extremly happy with my Hero.
I use it everyday for:
E-mail
Facebook
Calls
Messages
USB Modem
Surfing
RSS
Podcasts
Performs better than my Ipod Touch ever did, and I almost never have to hook it up to the laptop... Loving IT!
so far mine works fine (1 week). the gap is a problem with some branded phones but mine (T-Mobile Germany "2G Touch") has no gap. the problems with the headphones and LED seem to be software related, since there is a workaround to manually activate the headphone again.
oh and BTW I <3 Hero. best phone i ever had.
got 2 on first release from orange (graphite), 6 weeks ago, 1 for me and 1 for me gf.
no screen gap issues, no dead pixels on arrival, but i had one appear after 2 weeks, right down bottom right of phone, extremely small and never notice it at all unless im on dead pixel detect.
gfs phone hasnt any dead pixels as of yet.
not a single other problem like leds or headphones.
2 totally happy customers here.
Totally happy with mine, no hardware problems so far.
Best phone I've ever had especially with how much I
Like to mess with stuff.
I was happy only one day. If I use longer (about 10 min) my Hero screen starts flashing. If I make reset, everything is ok for some period. I hope it's not serious problem.
I had the LED issue for a while, but just updated to the new rom, and they are back, so this could be a software, not hardware issue
Oh, and love love love the phone
I have read many posts saying that the new ROM update will fix LED and Headphone jack issues.
I just bought a phone on eBay myself, haven't had the chance to play around with it too much since I need to change my plan beforehand, but I have turned it on and look around and everything is fine. It is a White Unlocked one. I must say, the Teflon coating is like nothing I've ever felt before on a phone, it just makes it feel like a million bucks!
But besides the color, which is up to you, I would say get the phone! There is always a 1 year manufacturer warranty, even if the seller doesn't offer you one of their own.
An official HTC update will be coming out VERY soon if you don't like the idea of loading up a custom ROM (although it is highly recommended as there are added quirks such as root access).

Nokia Lumia 920 - review and why I returned it.

I bought the 920 on weds..just returned today. The first one the shop had was DoA but the guy gave me another meant for another customer.The phone is top notch quality albeit on the heavier side. Camera placement in the center is not ideal and the phone could slip out of your hands..but its built like a tank. Screen is excellent and call quality is clear . Despite the weight it feels really good...better than the iphone 5 which i also have and night and day against any samsung phone (i had note 2 as well). Now the bad news.
Windows 8 mobile sucks!!! It took me an hour to setup my windows live or is it hotmail account. When I first setup it thought I was a child and gave me the round around telling me to check with family controls etc. Also I needed to put my credit card details etc just to access the app store. This process was also confusing since it redirected to the awful internet explorer mobile on the phone where the fonts were so small I couldnt see damn thing. Resizing the web page was cumbersome at best. I tried a few times...and i was so frustrated i felt like throwing the phone against the wall. In the end I did a hard reset and after more mucking around and searching on forums I got it working. But it was like pulling teeth.
Once I got my account setup..you cant change it unless you do a hard reset. So you are basically locked to that account. So if you have one older MS live account and a newer one , you wont be able to switch. This is the most retarded thing out. On android and iOs you can have many accounts as you want. I have a US, UK account which I like to use.
Anyway the first thing I did was go to the app store to download essentials such as Whatsapp , skype etc since nowadays we dont really talk anymore on the phone but message.Skype was ok and it has a special interface coz MS owns it. Whatsapp was a disaster, First time it took forever to load my contacts then say i had no contacts. 2nd time i got it to work but no video uploads. the interface is not as easy as on ios or droid. This is by no means MS fault but they should have checked to see if it works on newer phones. But I guess theres the rub. MS win 8 mobile has such a low user base, developers treat updates with the lowest priority. The app store has hotch potch skeleton app selection. You wont find spotify there but Nokia Music fills the gap albeit a poor substitute. I use my phone as music player first and foremost so music lovers will be disappointed. The MS sync tool with itunes is very bad. Playlists and songs werent copied and album art missing.
The microsoft email client is not as good as ios . You can change fonts and html messaged dont look as clean. I dont take many pics so didnt really try out the camera. But even when i turned flash off the flash was still on for some reason. The lens placement in the center of the phone meant that you would take shots of your fingers instead. Since the phone is heavy it was hard to just hold the bottom half to take pics. They should put the lens on the top left/right.
Surfing was an ok experience..windows wouldnt auto resize so most of the time you would get really small fonts.
Movies were good as display is excellent.. For some reason it also just shutdown completely last night (with 70% battery) and it took a soft reset to get it going again. The live tiles system is different and people who are tired of ios or droid may find this unique but the novelty factor wears off since not all tiles are live. The UI is smooth and there was no lag. Also little things like no batt percentage and some youtube videos wouldnt play (vevo) as it recognized win8 as mobile device. This works on ios and droid.
Bottom line...it wasnt a keeper since there are so many bugs to iron out.
Pros
beautiful high quality constructed phone. better than iphone5, htc/samsung note2 s3 etc
good yellow color
good UI..smooth
Cons
Win 8 mobile- THE BIGGEST reason why i returned it.
Camera placement
Apps (im not a heavy app user but the basic ones dont even work properly)
Slightly heavy to hold
It may be good for ppl who take a lot of photos since the camera is supposed to be the best on any phone..apart from that..would advise you to stay away until the win8 bugs are sorted.
PS i think Nokia/MS is desperate so they restricted supply to make it look as if the phone is hot and to get the buzz going. I really wanted to like it but couldnt get past the crap win 8 mobile. If the phone had droid or ios then it would be.. Also I think MS is padding the user reviews to make people buy it...
I set up my mail and main account in less than 5 minutes on my 920. It synced perfectly and pulled down all my contacts, calendar, and photo.
Music syncing wasn't quite as smooth, but I got it working. I do agree about having only one main account and not being able to change it seems stupid.
As for apps, they are coming, but I have noticed some developers putting out subpar WP8 apps while their iOS and Android are fine. I blame the developers for that crap. It's inexcusable.
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Hmm that's funny...
I have an adriod tablet... gmail account and credit card needed for the marketplace... hmm Sounds like an iPhone where an Apple id is required to use the iCrap. Same issue there. Now, I do have one customer that has a Blackberr..... uh nope just switched to a 920. Just saying, your first point has me wondering where else it is any different. The comparison to iOS, eh... one thing I don't have an issue wit on the phone is text size and reading all that, but you do realize you can change that in the settings!!!! This was a change over WP7. Yes there are some subpar apps, but that's what sets WP apart so much of the phone will do what you need 10 apps to do on iOS and Andriod. I can do most of what you do faster on any other platform. However, this is all a preference argument and I personally don't have an app hard on. I had to help a customer settle in coming from her iPhone, but we set up her outlook to use her Micosoft accout for her contacts and calander. She is all setup like if she had excange server at home without changing her other email address. There is a learning curve with any switch... you made one when you bought your first iPhone. You are not buying a new iPhone, it is a new platform.
iujona said:
Windows 8 mobile sucks!!! It took me an hour to setup my windows live or is it hotmail account. When I first setup it thought I was a child and gave me the round around telling me to check with family controls etc. Also I needed to put my credit card details etc just to access the app store. This process was also confusing since it redirected to the awful internet explorer mobile on the phone where the fonts were so small I couldnt see damn thing. Resizing the web page was cumbersome at best. I tried a few times...and i was so frustrated i felt like throwing the phone against the wall. In the end I did a hard reset and after more mucking around and searching on forums I got it working. But it was like pulling teeth.
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I'm sorry you had such a hard time setting an account. In my case, it look me less than 2 mins. It would have been much easier for you to create an account on your computer and then just sign-in with your phone. Wish WP8 provided a "hint" like this to those who are completely new to this ecosystem.
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I'm sorry you had such a hard time setting an account. In my case, it look me less than 2 mins. It would have been much easier for you to create an account on your computer and then just sign-in with your phone. Wish WP8 provided a "hint" like this to those who are completely new to this ecosystem.
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Completely agree.. iCrap forces you to do it that way... the device does not even power on without initially hooking it up and setting it up with iTunes on a computer. I think Micrsoft could recomend it on that first setup screen. If you already have an MS account you don't need to go to the computer at all.... so at least with WP8 you can skip that step and have everything setup before you get home. Just when you thought that would be a feature!
OP, I feel your pain. I like my Nokia 920, but am starting to get cold feet because of the apps. One example, I drive a Toyota it uses ENTUNE, there is no app and possibly will never be fully compatible. ALso things like HBO GO and such. I dont use them much on a phone anyway, but I still miss it. And as my cable company adds Video Apps, they take forever to get to Android, how long until they even acknowledge WP8?? My Son is a college athlete, whats the odds his schools app will have a WP8 version? Again, I do like the phone, if I didnt also use a 7" Galaxy Tab, I probably would have returned it. However, the new Galaxy Note 2 is tempting me to switch phones again...
While the setup on mine was easy, I'll be returning it today for one big reason...the camera. Granted, I knew going in that they camera has problems in daylight shots, but I figured I'd give it a try in the real world and see how my results turned out. Honestly, even worse than I expected. I also have the SIII and this thing can't hold a candle to it's camera. Maybe Nokia fixes it with a software update, but what if they don't? I'd rather return it and wait and see rather than keep it, go beyond my return window, and be stuck with such a crappy camera that never gets fixed.
He's a comparison shot I did this morning. The 920 picture looks like it's been run through some sort of cartoon editing software. Look at the tree on the right with the dead leaves still on it compared to the shot from the SIII. Insanity.
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The colors are alright, but there's absolutely NO clarity. Just awful. So, for now, while I love the phone in every other regard, I'll be returning it and waiting to see if the camera gets fixed.
set up hotmail, gmail, and facebook in seconds, downloaded my contacts from google having migrated from bustedrobot, besides the lack of apps (as its has been repeated their coming) wipes the floor with bustedrobot and i-crap and anything from RIM. easily the best phone ive owned in years
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While the setup on mine was easy, I'll be returning it today for one big reason...the camera. Granted, I knew going in that they camera has problems in daylight shots, but I figured I'd give it a try in the real world and see how my results turned out. Honestly, even worse than I expected. I also have the SIII and this thing can't hold a candle to it's camera. Maybe Nokia fixes it with a software update, but what if they don't? I'd rather return it and wait and see rather than keep it, go beyond my return window, and be stuck with such a crappy camera that never gets fixed.
He's a comparison shot I did this morning. The 920 picture looks like it's been run through some sort of cartoon editing software. Look at the tree on the right with the dead leaves still on it compared to the shot from the SIII. Insanity.
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The colors are alright, but there's absolutely NO clarity. Just awful. So, for now, while I love the phone in every other regard, I'll be returning it and waiting to see if the camera gets fixed.
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Yeah, I have seen a couple of those shots show up, but the majority of shots put the SIII to shame. Go indors and take some shots without the flash (turn it off) And yes the Lumia 900 had some simular issues and yep that got an update right away. The cam went from lackluster to pretty damn good. The pictures consistantly came out better than my transforer prime tablet which had a decent camera.
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set up hotmail, gmail, and facebook in seconds, downloaded my contacts from google having migrated from bustedrobot, besides the lack of apps (as its has been repeated their coming) wipes the floor with bustedrobot and i-crap and anything from RIM. easily the best phone ive owned in years
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Hmm, I set mine up in the store while waiting for the receipt to be printed. But I did already have a .live account. I didn't have to input a credit card because if I buy anything I just add it to my ATT bill. Very unlike my iPad where Apple insists I have a CC on file.
As for locking you into one specific account, well, that's no different from Apple. I can't change my Apple ID either.
And apps? Well, I find that the OS does just about anything I need without specific apps. Whereas I find IOS not much more than a glorified 'app launcher'.
Don't get me wrong. I love my iPad. But I expect something more and different from my phone. I expect my phone to simplify my life and frankly I find this OS does that. I was a 'flashacholic' when I had previous windows phones so I really considered a new Android phone. But frankly WP8 is a dream to use.
OP, sorry you had such a hard time. I had the same hard time the first times tried to set up my first iPad. This comes from being familiar with an OS. Other OSs feel 'wrong'. The 920 isn't for everyone, nor is WinPhone 8, nor is IOS or even Android.
Ain't choice great!
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Yeah, I have seen a couple of those shots show up, but the majority of shots put the SIII to shame. Go indors and take some shots without the flash (turn it off) And yes the Lumia 900 had some simular issues and yep that got an update right away. The cam went from lackluster to pretty damn good. The pictures consistantly came out better than my transforer prime tablet which had a decent camera.
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That's the thing... I don't shoot indoor shots often. The camera is something I use in my job and those are outdoor shots. Great phone, but the camera software needs some work.
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Agreed, and far, FAR beyond iPhone, which I ran with for over 2 years.
As for setting up the Microsoft account, I don't see how anyone could have a problem with it. More importantly, if you know you have to set one up...do it on your PC, not your phone. That's just common sense, or so I'd guess.
Windows Phone 8 is, hands down, the best mobile OS I've ever used, and I've used them all.
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set up hotmail, gmail, and facebook in seconds, downloaded my contacts from google having migrated from bustedrobot, besides the lack of apps (as its has been repeated their coming) wipes the floor with bustedrobot and i-crap and anything from RIM. easily the best phone ive owned in years
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That's the thing... I don't shoot indoor shots often. The camera is something I use in my job and those are outdoor shots. Great phone, but the camera software needs some work.
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If that is the case, the Lumia has the most potential. The limitations are on the way the phone is processing the pictures (software) not a limitation on hardware. Hardware you can't change, software you can. Every phone today gets tweeked with after it's initial release. The 920 will be no different. The stabilization works, the low light performance works... Give them a chance to update and if it still doesn't perform... something better will be out there or coming out.
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If that is the case, the Lumia has the most potential. The limitations are on the way the phone is processing the pictures (software) not a limitation on hardware. Hardware you can't change, software you can. Every phone today gets tweeked with after it's initial release. The 920 will be no different. The stabilization works, the low light performance works... Give them a chance to update and if it still doesn't perform... something better will be out there or coming out.
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I absolutely agree the Lumia has tons of potential. And I'm sure they'll put out an update to the software to fix the camera. That's why I returned mine to wait until they do. I can promise you, once they fix it and the reviews start pouring in that the camera is good to go, I'll be picking another one up. Other than the camera software, this phone is amazing.
But even when i turned flash off the flash was still on for some reason. The lens placement in the center of the phone meant that you would take shots of your fingers instead. Since the phone is heavy it was hard to just hold the bottom half to take pics. They should put the lens on the top left/right.
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Youre dont mean the focus-assist lighting? You know, the light that makes your camera able to focus on things it might normally be too dark for it to focus on? Cause thats not flash.
I never take a picture of my fingers. Also, pressing on the screen to take a photo could help you out if you feel its too heavy to hold while using the manual button.
Personally the WP8 experience is on par with the experience I had on my SGS3 with android 4.1.
I like the homescreen far more than on Android, and the way social and email is integrated with the native apps like messaging, contacts, etcetera.
I dont like IE10 as much as Chrome, but thats MOSTLY because of how IE10 handles doubletap to zoom and textwrapping plus certain messageboards. Why no mobile browser besides the microB-browser has had swirlzooming is beyond me.
All in all, the 920 is better for me than the SGS3, and Id choose it over SGS3 any day of the week.
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I bought the 920 on weds..just returned today. The first one the shop had was DoA but the guy gave me another meant for another customer.The phone is top notch quality albeit on the heavier side. Camera placement in the center is not ideal and the phone could slip out of your hands..but its built like a tank. Screen is excellent and call quality is clear . Despite the weight it feels really good...better than the iphone 5 which i also have and night and day against any samsung phone (i had note 2 as well). Now the bad news.
Windows 8 mobile sucks!!! It took me an hour to setup my windows live or is it hotmail account. When I first setup it thought I was a child and gave me the round around telling me to check with family controls etc. Also I needed to put my credit card details etc just to access the app store. This process was also confusing since it redirected to the awful internet explorer mobile on the phone where the fonts were so small I couldnt see damn thing. Resizing the web page was cumbersome at best. I tried a few times...and i was so frustrated i felt like throwing the phone against the wall. In the end I did a hard reset and after more mucking around and searching on forums I got it working. But it was like pulling teeth.
Once I got my account setup..you cant change it unless you do a hard reset. So you are basically locked to that account. So if you have one older MS live account and a newer one , you wont be able to switch. This is the most retarded thing out. On android and iOs you can have many accounts as you want. I have a US, UK account which I like to use.
Anyway the first thing I did was go to the app store to download essentials such as Whatsapp , skype etc since nowadays we dont really talk anymore on the phone but message.Skype was ok and it has a special interface coz MS owns it. Whatsapp was a disaster, First time it took forever to load my contacts then say i had no contacts. 2nd time i got it to work but no video uploads. the interface is not as easy as on ios or droid. This is by no means MS fault but they should have checked to see if it works on newer phones. But I guess theres the rub. MS win 8 mobile has such a low user base, developers treat updates with the lowest priority. The app store has hotch potch skeleton app selection. You wont find spotify there but Nokia Music fills the gap albeit a poor substitute. I use my phone as music player first and foremost so music lovers will be disappointed. The MS sync tool with itunes is very bad. Playlists and songs werent copied and album art missing.
The microsoft email client is not as good as ios . You can change fonts and html messaged dont look as clean. I dont take many pics so didnt really try out the camera. But even when i turned flash off the flash was still on for some reason. The lens placement in the center of the phone meant that you would take shots of your fingers instead. Since the phone is heavy it was hard to just hold the bottom half to take pics. They should put the lens on the top left/right.
Surfing was an ok experience..windows wouldnt auto resize so most of the time you would get really small fonts.
Movies were good as display is excellent.. For some reason it also just shutdown completely last night (with 70% battery) and it took a soft reset to get it going again. The live tiles system is different and people who are tired of ios or droid may find this unique but the novelty factor wears off since not all tiles are live. The UI is smooth and there was no lag. Also little things like no batt percentage and some youtube videos wouldnt play (vevo) as it recognized win8 as mobile device. This works on ios and droid.
Bottom line...it wasnt a keeper since there are so many bugs to iron out.
Pros
beautiful high quality constructed phone. better than iphone5, htc/samsung note2 s3 etc
good yellow color
good UI..smooth
Cons
Win 8 mobile- THE BIGGEST reason why i returned it.
Camera placement
Apps (im not a heavy app user but the basic ones dont even work properly)
Slightly heavy to hold
It may be good for ppl who take a lot of photos since the camera is supposed to be the best on any phone..apart from that..would advise you to stay away until the win8 bugs are sorted.
PS i think Nokia/MS is desperate so they restricted supply to make it look as if the phone is hot and to get the buzz going. I really wanted to like it but couldnt get past the crap win 8 mobile. If the phone had droid or ios then it would be.. Also I think MS is padding the user reviews to make people buy it...
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Got a Lumia 920 yesterday for my wife (not a technically savvy person at all!) Once she had her bearings (about 5 minutes navigating around) it took her less than 5 minutes to set up all her e-mails. There was no need to give any credit card information, and the camera is really good in low lights... compared it to my S2. Daylight shots are a little washed out, but READ! a camera firmware patch is coming soon. Tech specs on the camera are really good, and so is the screen... these two and the solid constructions are the reason i opted for this phone. Pretty sure others would agree.
And in conclusion, if it took you over an hour to set up email, it's a good thing you returned this phone. I would highly recommend staying miles away from Android or Windows devices; a Leap-frog or an Apple product would work best for you.
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I read a post about how amazing Night mode was. So I played around with the scenes Close Ups, Cloudy, and Night Mode. So often, that stuff is just a gimmick, not on this phone!
I returned my Lumia 900 cause it was hard for me to transition from Android and it was lacking. I gave the 920 and WP8 another chance and never looked backed. It's restricted compared to how you have so much customization you can do on Android, but the 920 is far from being some kind of wash out. The stabilization of the camera is one of the best I've seen. I've take shots compared to my HTC One X and the stability feature is awesome.
Personally I love a heavy set phone. Gives me the feel of sturdiness. I've always liked heavier phone.
The screen in day light is simply the best thing I have ever seen. The way the color tones adjust to bright light is incredible. Even with the top down on my car I can see the screen crystal clear.
The speaker on this thing is SUPER loud. Louder than my Nexus 7. The EQ on this thing absolutely smashes anything my One X Beats Audio could dish out. It's even better than any EQ feature on Android 3rd party apps like Power Amp. When I adjust the EQ it adjust.
It took me minutes to set up my Live, Google, LinkedIn, Yahoo, NetZero, and Hotmail Account. The integration is very nice in how it works together.
I have my quarrels with WP8, but it's super stable and nicely integrated with apps optimized for it's ecosystem.
IMHO WP8 is at the point of what Froyo was for Android. One of those landmark version that will get this OS out in the wild.
Sorry to hear you not like it, I can understand as I been there with the 900, but I can't justify it with the 920. The apps will come, the stability will come, the updates to software will come.
I've actually had the worse upgrade of JB on my Nexus 7 when they fixed the bugs of forgetting to December in the calendar. And to be quite frank my 920 process faster than my One X with the same processor and my Nexus 7. I'll never stop using Android, but I'll never say WP8 sucks. There's no way.
I agree with OP regarding the email client; 1 account is not enought. For the rest i can only say that i setup my phone in 5 minutes with no problems at all. Using my 920 since 2 weeks, coming from an iphone4 and no regrets at all.

Is this phone really THAT bad?

I've been waiting for the Lumia 920 to be back in stock at the H3G shop here in my town. Now it's back but I've been feeling some bad vibes around the forums lately. I hear about users having reboots, lockups, dead phones, dust underneath the ffc, bad battery life, buggy browser, lag, light leaks, creaks, herpes and whatnot, so this got me wondering...is this stuff mostly bs or there's actually something wrong with this phone? Has anyone regretted his purchase badly so far? Did the Portico actually help or it's just too little and too late? Please let me know, because reading all of this stuff really puzzled my will. Keep in mind that at this point Android is no longer an option for me, so the only other phone I could go for right now instead of this one would be the iPhone5. I wouldn't mind waiting for something else to come out, but honestly this 800 feels a bit EOL right now and I'd really like to drop it, my battery is also starting to suck a bit so...
Looking forward to hear from you guys, I'm really starting to feel that itch, I've been using this phone for almost a year now, this is kind of a record to me lol.
You are unshure ... why should you by excatly this phone?
You mentioned all the negative threads but you could finde more positive threads about this phone.
It's just your focus. Go into a shop and test the phone.
If you buy and it serves the first week in a good way you can keep it otherwise return it.
I'm happy with my Lumia 920
I have my Lumia 920 (AT&T) for two months and I really love it!
I got the Portico update I the very first day and during the first week of use my phone hung up once. I was worried just like you because I read in the forums many users complaining about the stability issues they had, but honestly that's the only issue I've had with this device! No light leaks, reboots, dust, lag, etc..
There is strange rattling sound when the phone vibrates, but it's nothing to worry about and I got used to it anyway.
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@Anis108: Actually I always liked the phone, I love the design, the sturdyness, the screen, the camera, wireless charging, Nokia goodies, and overall I'm just in love with the platform. However I'm also concerned about the reliability of the phone in the software department and I'm also concerned about how the thing can hold up through an extended period of time, since I'm planning on keeping it for a good while. Holding a phone in my hand for a few minutes can't really tell me much about these things, and even a week may not be enough to me, since I tend to be quite picky. Getting a new device is always a big leap of faith for me, especially on contract.
@Boshko: thanks, this is the kind of feedback I'm after...I just wanna hear the good, the bad and the ugly about this phone, because obviously reading topics made by people having issues will make the phone look bad, whereas those about how great the 920 is will gather mostly hardcore fans. I just wanna hear some random opinions to make up my mind here
AW: Is this phone really THAT bad?
Portico fixed my random reboots...
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I've had mine since it was released. Love it. Great design, functions beautifully. Haven't had any of the issues posted. I must be living right.
Have mine since it was released last October. No major problems. I've rebooted twice because I think something was sucking my battery too fast. Uninstalled couple of stock apps (stock portfolio, finance apps) and things are back to normal. Love the camera even though I don't use it everyday. Battery life is awesome for me - I routinely get close to two full days (about 40 hrs or more).
All in all, I'm a happy customer.
As far as forum problems, you have to remember that you're more likely to hear what's wrong with the device rather than the positive. Those who have problems come and post their issues so that they can be resolved with other people's help. If you are happy with device and have no problems, you're less likely to post your positive experience.
I'd say don't go by the forums - try the phone yourself and see if you like it or not.
My $0.02.
Using the phone for month and a half I can say it was a good purchase:
Depending on the use that you have intended for it, it may be what you are looking for.
If you are a person who likes to hack things, and wants to see how can you make the phone more customizable via tweaks and those stuffs, then this may not be the ideal for you as this thing is very encrypted and secure(for now).
If you are a corporate guy office and exchange will suit you because are optimized for the platform and consume very little battery.
If you are a globetrotter (travels a lot) then the GPS Navigation apps will suit you.
For the battery life there are two points:
on the first 2 weeks the battery will calibrate itself and you may see that after that time battery life is considerably better.
All the apps that runs on the background only runs for 2 weeks if not opened by you, WP8 has this by default, to enable background running again or to reset the counter just open the app (Microsoft did this for battery life)
I don't have dust on my ffc, camera is very good, phone is solid and at first feels kind of heavy but one gets used to it.
the WP8 is still an ongoing project, so many things are missing on the software side, but are on their way.
Overall I like this phone because I bought it and fulfilled my expectations: Sunlight readability, screen usable with gloves and true offline GPS Navigation, those are what I need for doing my job and the phone is very good at it.
The downsides: Some apps make the phone really hot (not optimized GPS Apps, like "Navigation 3D"), the battery consumption increases way more than other smartphones in low coverage areas and drains the phone quickly (30% more o less), still many software features missing.
So far after portico I have had 3 reboots(1 freeze but occurs on specific hardware calls, like turning "bluetooth on" on very rare conditions).
I plan to stick with this phone for a while, after 3 years with android I felt that the platform was not bringing nothing new, new physical design yes but the OS was always the same and nothing new since android 2.3.
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Have mine since it was released last October. No major problems. I've rebooted twice because I think something was sucking my battery too fast. Uninstalled couple of stock apps (stock portfolio, finance apps) and things are back to normal. Love the camera even though I don't use it everyday. Battery life is awesome for me - I routinely get close to two full days (about 40 hrs or more).
All in all, I'm a happy customer.
As far as forum problems, you have to remember that you're more likely to hear what's wrong with the device rather than the positive. Those who have problems come and post their issues so that they can be resolved with other people's help. If you are happy with device and have no problems, you're less likely to post your positive experience.
I'd say don't go by the forums - try the phone yourself and see if you like it or not.
My $0.02.
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Couldn't say it better..
I've had mine now for about 3 months. Came from (Smart phones) HTC OneX, HTC Evo 3d, Samsung Galaxy S, Moto POS, HTC G1. The 920 is without a doubt, for me, the best phone I've had yet. Everyone's analysis is subjective. Mine is no exception obviously. I will say only this. I have no qualms what-so-ever about recommending this phone to others. Both the hardware performance and the OS for me have been exceptional. Maybe I'm lucky or the exception.
Unfortunately, I'm one of the victims here. To start off, I LOVE this phone - I really do. It has everything I could want, and when it does work it is amazing (wireless charging, NFC, beautiful screen). However I personally am on my 3rd phone. The first 2 had problems locking-up forcing me to do the "power + volume-down" reset. The second phone also got a large piece of dust under the front camera. Fortunately, the 3rd one seems to be working. My wife is on her 2nd phone - same locking-up problem however hers only seemed to lock-up when being wirelessly charged. Now, a friend of mine who just got one is having the same wireless charging lock-up problem.
So I have to ask - what the hell is going on with this phone? By now, Nokia should have all of the "kinks" worked-out, Portico has been delivered and we're still seeing this crap? Oh - and I forgot to mention the "rattle" when vibrate is turned on. Grrr.....
I'm now using an HTC 8x for a while as I moved to China and haven't gotten my 920T yet, and guess what? The 8x works like a champ. Just wish I had wireless charging and more flash storage and I wouldn't go back to the 920T....
Is it just me or does it sound like that people that have flashed from a non stock ROM are the ones that are talking about the most issues? Is debranding and unlocking really worth all the issues this seems to be creating?
I have had mine stock for 3 months now and have not had one single issue that anyone in this entire 920 section has complained about. There is one very tiny light leak if I look down at the screen from the speaker end at an angle that I would never normally look from so it is irrelevant to me.
It just seems that the one common thing that most of these issues have is they are all on flashed phones.
I don't see the point of unlocking and debranding if the phone works for you as it is. We all know from past models that even unlocked there is very little you can do to one of these to customize it.
I have always been taught that if it is not broken, then don't fix it. If it works and does what it needs to as stock then why not leave it stock? Seems a lot more dependable that way to me.
I had rebooting Issues with me german Lumia 920 until I flashed it to the Austrian Portico ROM (I live in Austria). I didn't want to wait for the Update. But I have not had any issues since so flashing seems not to be the culprit. Many of the other issues did not occur on my phone at all.
I'm very happy with it since Portico . Before Portico I had some reservations but that was mainly due to the anxiety that it might reboot again (happened every few days).
Let me just tell you now, I am a perfectionist in the worst kind of way. I have issues with this phone but for some reason, they don't bother me. I'm willing to put up with them, I LOVE this phone so much. I have the light leaks but they're not apparent unless you put your eye very very close to the screen, in the dark and inspect the inside edges of the phone. If I press on the SIM card tray, the chassis of the phone creaks a bit but it's also the thinnest part of the phone so it makes sense. My phone locks up in standby every now and again so I have to reboot it but volume down + power but it only started happening AFTER the portico update. Also, ALL the Lumia 920's rattle when they vibrate because of the OIS in the camera. It's normal. I turned off vibration anyway, cause I don't like it.
I can tell you, the camera is NEXT-TO-NONE, stills and video. The call quality is excellent. The display is awesome and the durability is excellent and I love the cleanliness of the OS. NFC works on this phone the way it SHOULD work. Intuitively. I'm really good with phone as I used to work for a carrier but I couldn't for the life of me get NFC to work on my galaxy nexus, or my S3. They will be updating the phone this holiday season and it can only get better from here! :good:
I have no problems at all from mine. Fantastic device.
well the core functions work flawlessly as compared to other smartphones.
catches gps signal easily for me, camera starts in instance, typing is comfortable and more accurate than android and entire UI is fluid as opposed to android and iphone5 for me.
only problems are the light leak, battery life (but almost all phones have battery life issues unless u use blackberry on 2g signal).
and the dust settles between screen and chassis very easily.
I love mine, the camera is great so is the screen.
Don't have any of the problems that others have had, the only issue for me was once I updated the nokia apps to the here versions, my battery life died a death. a quick uninstall fixed that. but now I only have the map app, will try the others one at a time to find the culprit.
"We were unable to determine the media usage rights for this content" error Lumia 920
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I have no problems at all from mine. Fantastic device.
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We were unable to determine the media usage rights for this content" error Lumia 920
Hello there , I need some help , I am new on the Lumia 920 ,I have downloaded through XBOX and paid music songs but now suddenly and after one month I cant listen
to these songs and get instead : "We were unable to determine the media usage rights for this content" error Lumia 920" Its DRM related I think...Does anyone have a fix ? thanks for the help and sorry if its the wrong thread...
Thanks for your insights guys. Actually I kinda made up my mind, I'm getting the 920 either tomorrow or early next week, still can't decide between white and black tho, any suggestions? Are there any differences in terms of durability?
No problems here.
Go into a hospital and you'll see people with problems, you shouldn't assume humans are rubbish.
Go onto a forum and you'll see people post with problems, you shouldn't assume everyone will have problems.

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Invites are going out, and devices should be shipping soon. So, if you have a OnePlus 2, please give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Tell us about the display, sound, feel, camera, quality or whatever else comes to mind. If you've had any problems, we'd also like to know about that too.
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Invites are going out, and devices should be shipping soon. So, if you have a OnePlus 2, please give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Tell us about the display, sound, feel, camera, quality or whatever else comes to mind. If you've had any problems, we'd also like to know about that too.
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i just got my 2, will post some pics and mini review tonight
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i just got my 2, will post some pics and mini review tonight
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i wonder if dual-sim working outside of china ? how about your device ?
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samir_a said:
Hi I got my Oneplus 2 today, it was purchased from China and imported to India and hence had the color OS, hand to install Oxygen OS as Color OS does not have google on it.
The phone feels heavy, looks great and is quite comfortable to hold
Got my hands of Oxygen OS and just finished installing, one remark on the same unlike other phones where you need to install a custom recovery to file the zip, in Oxygen I could just boot into recovery and install the zip file which is a great thing for the novice users as they will not be required to install custom recovery.
So i installed the OS without any issue took 5 minutes booted up quickly signed up into google and the phone was set up
Observation the phone heated while installing the backup apps which was not heavy use as why installing apps and syncing gmail will send more updates on the heating issue as i start using the phone.
I configured the fingerprint scanner though it takes some time to scan the fingerprint however it unlocks pretty quicky though there is an issue reported by one of the earlier reviewers that it stops working after sometime will update on that as I use the phone
Camera has not been tested so will take some night pictures today and upload them.
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My impressions after 2 days: nice feel in the hand, better than my s6. Screen looks washed out coming from Samsung amoled. Fingerprint reader is useless. Apart from the lack of a click which makes the button feel weird, it only works half the time and is always slow. The hardware buttons could be more sensitive. Using the Fingerprint reader as a home key is not great, doesn't always register a touch. On screen works fine. UI feels like stock Android. Missing scheduled do not disturb and not much customisation (no battery icon options etc). Bluetooth and wifi are working without any problems. Wouldn't play an HD movie on Google play, seemed to be lagging but later worked fine. Apart from that, seems snappy. No overheating. Withe general usage, battery life seems very good. Very good. Whilst on paper it falls short in every important specification when compared with the s6 (and the absence of wireless charging is a big thing for me, as is NFC) I must say that I love the phone. Reminds me of my HTC HD2! I am a person who buys the latest flagship every 3 months. I have to confess, I succumbed to the hype with this phone and don't regret it! I got the A2001 version from Oppomart. LTE works fine on Telstra in Sydney.
Edit : I should add that the audio through headphones is very good too. And after using for a few days now, battery life is still impressive.
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On screen works fine. UI feels like stock Android. Missing scheduled do not disturb and not much customisation (no battery icon options etc).
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Actually, you can change the battery icon to circle, text or no icon at all.
Where? I couldn't find it.
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I just found it! In Battery, clicking on the Icon. Thanks for that!
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Wow didn't know that trick with the battery! Yeah really liking the phone atm but it Deffo looks washed out coming from s6, g4 and a moto x
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Where? I couldn't find it.
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I just found it! In Battery, clicking on the Icon. Thanks for that!
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Wow didn't know that trick with the battery! Yeah really liking the phone atm but it Deffo looks washed out coming from s6, g4 and a moto x
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Where you see the battery usage, on the top right corner, tap the gear icon.
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Wow didn't know that trick with the battery! Yeah really liking the phone atm but it Deffo looks washed out coming from s6, g4 and a moto x
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Even from G4? ?
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FYI the finger print reader and capacitive buttons are much more responsive in the latest version of hydrogen os. This adds up as all the reviews I have seen are using newer oxygen os firmware are also reporting minimal issues with the finer print reader. We just have to wait for someone to post the latest firmware.
Ugh. Have the money set aside to buy this phone but can't justify the extra cost if it doesn't work on ATT LTE.
Talk about a tease.
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Ugh. Have the money set aside to buy this phone but can't justify the extra cost if it doesn't work on ATT LTE.
Talk about a tease.
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Whose teasing? If you look up the 1+2's specs and AT&T's LTE network frequencies, you'll have a clear answer.
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Whose teasing? If you look up the 1+2's specs and AT&T's LTE network frequencies, you'll have a clear answer.
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It's 'who's teasing'.
It was a joke. It would be like having the money to buy a hooker and hearing that she has herpes.
I have been using it for the four days now and there are no issues with fingerprint reader the issue is how you place the finger on it once you get that right you will not have an issue
Also a cool feature just scan you finger and the phone will automatically come out of standby mode and unlock no need to press power buttom or double tap
Hey guys. Question here.
In this review from (video in Russian language) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvwFkLTG-Cw
they've mentioned that on high volume the speaker is suffering awful croaking, but they are not sure if they got defective device or is at a software issue for example. Can anyone comment how is the speaker of the phone in terms of loundenss and quality? (the one (or two) in the bottom from which the sound of ringtone comes out.
Thanks in advance
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I have been using it for the four days now and there are no issues with fingerprint reader the issue is how you place the finger on it once you get that right you will not have an issue
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I have had the phone for a few weeks, since the 4th of August. I can tell you that there definitely is an issue. Reviewers have also pointed towards this fact. In some instance the finger print reader refuses to unlock the phone. Using a pin or pattern unlocks the phone. Unlocking after that works again. Some reviewers have also commented that the fingerprint reader stops working till you reboot. I have used the latest version of HydrogenOS, and can confirm that the fingerprint reader is more reliable and the initial configuration asks you to scan the edge of you finger in addition to the normal scans.
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Can anyone comment how is the speaker of the phone in terms of loundenss and quality? (the one (or two) in the bottom from which the sound of ringtone comes out.
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No problems for me. I have watched a few youtube videos on it. Ringtones and alerts are loud and clear. Sound only comes out the right speaker holes. One thing that is annoying is the equaliser software. If you turn it off the sound from the speaker is completely flat and very quiet. If you turn it on the sound is too loud at low volumes, but quality is much improved. You can play with the equaliser settings to improve this and strike a balance, but I would imagine the defaults will be fixed in future OTA updates.
I have not used Hydrogen OS uninstalled it as soon as I got my phone however i can confirm there is no such issue in Oxygen OS yes i did scan my finger print in Hydrogen OS when I got it and it has a very different UI to that of Oxygen I guess Oxygen uses Google API and UI's however Hydrogen has a custom built UI dont know what is in the backend
And in that i think lies the issue
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I have had the phone for a few weeks, since the 4th of August. I can tell you that there definitely is an issue. Reviewers have also pointed towards this fact. In some instance the finger print reader refuses to unlock the phone. Using a pin or pattern unlocks the phone. Unlocking after that works again. Some reviewers have also commented that the fingerprint reader stops working till you reboot. I have used the latest version of HydrogenOS, and can confirm that the fingerprint reader is more reliable and the initial configuration asks you to scan the edge of you finger in addition to the normal scans.
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No problems for me. I have watched a few youtube videos on it. Ringtones and alerts are loud and clear. Sound only comes out the right speaker holes. One thing that is annoying is the equaliser software. If you turn it off the sound from the speaker is completely flat and very quiet. If you turn it on the sound is too loud at low volumes, but quality is much improved. You can play with the equaliser settings to improve this and strike a balance, but I would imagine the defaults will be fixed in future OTA updates.
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Definitely worth quoting here:
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My initial impressions of the Oneplus 2
It's Here!
Finally, I have it. The Oneplus 2 was delivered to me on Friday (didn't actually got my hands on it until Sunday).
Bought the device officially from Oneplus on wednesday and they shipped it on Thursday so that was fast! And thanks to DHL of course for the speedy delivery.
I have now used the device for a day and here are my few impressions of it. I will do a larger review later on.
What's in the box
The box is very nice (picture at the end). In the box you find:
The phone (it has a screenprotector installed at the factory)
Power Brick
USB-C cable (the power brick/USB end is also reversible)
Basic use guide etc
So again no headphones. Many have questioned why, but you have to remember the price point of the device and providing headphones would increase the price and knowing Onelus, they don't want to provide some ****ty "samsung like" headphones just because headphones
Build quality and feel
The device feels superb on hand when first lifted from the box. The phone feels really sturdy thanks to the metal edges (like in Galaxy S6 and other premium phones). The device is heavier than it's predecessor.
Build quality is not a problem on this phone. The new StyleSwap covers are now easy to take off and install (pretty much the same as for example on Note series backplates) and there is a hole in the bottom for easy uninstall. I bought the Kevlar and Black Apricot StyleSwaps with the phone and the hard part is to decide which one to use. I am starting to like the Black Apricot one better.
Software
So no more Cyanogen but is this a bad thing? Hard to say really at the moment, also my opinion might be little biased as I pretty much hate anything coming from CM.
So as said the phone comes with Oneplus inhouse ROM called OxygenOS which has now a matured to 2.0 stage.
As I have had the phone just a under 24hours I won't be saying much of the OxygenOS yet, but I have to say that at this stage I would expect more. The ROM is pretty basic vanilla Android with few tweaks like Dual Sim support (more on this little later) and a Dark UI mode etc.
Coming from a custom rom / CyanogenOS world this a step backwards if you like customization features. Oneplus has said that there will be an OTA update soon to bringing more stuff and fixes, so we will see.
Haven't found any big bugs yet but the camera app is also pretty basic and doesn't have lot of options. But I haven't used the camera much so I won't judge it yet
Snapdragon 810 - hot or not
I tested the "boiling/overheating" with a little gaming session (nothing fancy or really heavy) with few small games (i don't usually play games on my phone).
The phone heats from the topside but for me it's nothing to get worried about. I have seen samekind of heating with the S6 and other phones. But I will need to test longer and heavier games.
I haven't run any benchmarks and don't think I even will as they don't show the "real world usage".
Unique features
Oneplus 2 comes with few unique features that are not very common in flagship phones. I will go through few of them here.
Dual sim
Oneplus 2 supports Dual Sim configuration which is pretty big thing nowadays. Ok, it's a feature that many propably won't need all the time but it actually is a great feature. I haven't had a dual sim phone before so I was pretty eager to see if it would have any value to me.
The phone uses Dual Sim Dual Standby mode (DSDS) and you can configure which sim is used for different tasks (mobile data, texts and phone calls). Text and phone call options can be configured so that the phone asks which sim will be used when you make a call or send a text.
I have configured that texts and calls are from the SIM1 (my main sim) and mobile data comes from SIM2 as my main sim has a sloooow mobile data so i will use my unlimeted 4G data sim for the mobile data.
As I mentioned the dual standby mode that the phone uses means that if my SIM2 is using mobile data and I get a call to the SIM1 number the mobile data connection will be disconnected until i disconnect the call / reject it. Both sims can receive call but when there is a call coming to either on the other one will be "dead". So if you are on phone call thrue your SIM1 and someone tries to call you to SIM2 number he will get a message that the number can't be reached / call will be transferred to voicemail.
I think I am going to enjoy this feature as it gives me more room and will be good when travelling.
Fingerprint reader
Yes, Oneplus 2 has a fingerprint reader. Oneplus #hyped the feature a lot and even said that it will be better and faster than the one on the iPhone.
Well, I have to be honest here. It's not. The reader is pretty good reading the fingerprint but it isn't as good or fast than the counterpart. Few times the phone hasn't recognized my fingers at all and sometimes the home button (reader is integrated to the capacitive button) just doesn't react to the finger at all.
There is also a setting that allows you top wake the screen and unlock it by just putting your finger to the scanner (like in few Huawei phones etc). This feature also works pretty well but sometimes the phone doesn't wakeup when you put your finger on the scanner.
There should be a OTA coming what should fix these things so let's hope it comes soon.
Conclusion
So the initial impression? Brilliant device with few quirks and pretty basic software. The software part is the part which needs to come better and it should come soon. For me...well let's just say that I will wait for the custom rom developers to bring their magic on this phone.
Oh, almost forgot. THERE IS NO NFC on this phone and there never will be. I don't actually need it and when NFC is actually really really useful here (hint: android pay) we will have the Oneplus 3 or even 4 already.
All in all, at the moment I am really impressed by the phone and hardware, but I want to see lot of improvement on the software side.
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Colour blending (blacks) problem

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I saw same issue with my s9+ us unlocked. Its totally unacceptable....
Saw a thread on Android Central with quite a few people commenting about it (not sure if I'm allowed to link to a separate forum).
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What resolution are you running at? I changed from the default to max resolution and no issues here.
Are you running at the lower resolution? If so, that may be why. Displays never look good at anything other then their default resolution, in this case WQHD+. That would explain the gradient issues you are seeing.
I have watched several videos on mine so far, and blacks, etc look great. No gradient or banding issues.
In fact, this display is much better than my Note 8. The color is more accurate, and there is no pink tinge at the top and bottom edges. There is also far less color shift when viewing at an angle.
Full resolution. WQHD+.
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Saw a thread on Android Central with quite a few people commenting about it (not sure if I'm allowed to link to a separate forum).
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PM please. I'd like to check that discussion out to.
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So today then...
Went down to my local Samsung Experience store, everything went fine in there. The rep took my phone out back and came back acknowledging a fault. She then explained that as its the S9+ Hybrid, they can't exchange in store. This can only be done by contacting customer services. The rep plugged the phone in to their system, ran diagnostics and created a support ticket for me to reference when calling.
So I dialled the UK based customer services. Explained the whole thing to them. They had issues pulling up the support ticket however took my details and went through the process, had been on the phone a good 20 minutes now already. The guy then told me I had to be put through to the online shop which is based in Manilla. Took about 5 minutes to get put through. The line was terrible, and it was a struggle communicating. Had to go through the whole lot again, another 15-20 minutes to be then told I had to be put through to their technical support! So I get put on hold and then...
*hung up tone* line went silent.
I was fuming. So had to start over. Back on to the UK number, quickly rushed through the whole thing again. She said that she would speak to Manilla herself first to explain, as for an exchange, I shouldn't be getting put through to technical support. Another 5 minutes of waiting for Manilla to pick up and I'm through again. Once again, rattled through the whole issue. End result:
I have to send back my device, which can take 3-5 working days to arrive. They then have to assess the device which will take another 3-5 days before they will send out the replacement.
I was not happy about this, as I've sent my old phone off to them as part of the pre-order deal already and I'll be without a phone for the duration. I also questioned why it has to be assessed when it's already been assessed in store. She just kept repeating the "procedure" over and over. I was getting frustrated and asked to speak to a manager as I felt that it was poor customer service. A manager came on but he repeated the same. They couldn't even explain to me, why I couldn't walk in to a Samsung store and get an exchange there and then. There was zero sympathy for a customer who'd spent nearly a grand on a phone, been a Samsung customer for years.
I've little choice now. I'm just annoyed that a huge company like Samsung won't go that extra mile for a customer. My phone is my business phone as well, I can't afford to be without it for up to 14 days. Spent over an hour on call to them as well. For a simple exchange. One whole hour for them to say, "stick the return label on, take it to DPD, we'll send you a replacement in 14 days".
Have been discussing this on Android Central as well,where there is a longer discussion with a lot of people experiencing the same issue. Whats irritated me is that one person there spoke to Samsung today and they're sending him out a replacement BEFORE he has to send his faulty one back. How is it different for two customers, yet same problem!?
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PM please. I'd like to check that discussion out to.
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Are you running at the lower resolution? If so, that may be why. Displays never look good at anything other then their default resolution, in this case WQHD+. That would explain the gradient issues you are seeing.
I have watched several videos on mine so far, and blacks, etc look great. No gradient or banding issues.
In fact, this display is much better than my Note 8. The color is more accurate, and there is no pink tinge at the top and bottom edges. There is also far less color shift when viewing at an angle.
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What resolution are you running at? I changed from the default to max resolution and no issues here.
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Saw a thread on Android Central with quite a few people commenting about it (not sure if I'm allowed to link to a separate forum).
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I saw same issue with my s9+ us unlocked. Its totally unacceptable....
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This problem is called "Black Crush", and was one of the many problems I experienced with my Pixel 2 XL.
It can be fixed through software updates, and the problem is only visible at low brightness, and that's why most of the people haven't noticed it.
I will put this video for you, is about the Pixel 2 XL, but is about the same problem and also they suggest an app to minimize the issue:
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So today then...
Went down to my local Samsung Experience store, everything went fine in there. The rep took my phone out back and came back acknowledging a fault. She then explained that as its the S9+ Hybrid, they can't exchange in store. This can only be done by contacting customer services. The rep plugged the phone in to their system, ran diagnostics and created a support ticket for me to reference when calling.
So I dialled the UK based customer services. Explained the whole thing to them. They had issues pulling up the support ticket however took my details and went through the process, had been on the phone a good 20 minutes now already. The guy then told me I had to be put through to the online shop which is based in Manilla. Took about 5 minutes to get put through. The line was terrible, and it was a struggle communicating. Had to go through the whole lot again, another 15-20 minutes to be then told I had to be put through to their technical support! So I get put on hold and then...
*hung up tone* line went silent.
I was fuming. So had to start over. Back on to the UK number, quickly rushed through the whole thing again. She said that she would speak to Manilla herself first to explain, as for an exchange, I shouldn't be getting put through to technical support. Another 5 minutes of waiting for Manilla to pick up and I'm through again. Once again, rattled through the whole issue. End result:
I have to send back my device, which can take 3-5 working days to arrive. They then have to assess the device which will take another 3-5 days before they will send out the replacement.
I was not happy about this, as I've sent my old phone off to them as part of the pre-order deal already and I'll be without a phone for the duration. I also questioned why it has to be assessed when it's already been assessed in store. She just kept repeating the "procedure" over and over. I was getting frustrated and asked to speak to a manager as I felt that it was poor customer service. A manager came on but he repeated the same. They couldn't even explain to me, why I couldn't walk in to a Samsung store and get an exchange there and then. There was zero sympathy for a customer who'd spent nearly a grand on a phone, been a Samsung customer for years.
I've little choice now. I'm just annoyed that a huge company like Samsung won't go that extra mile for a customer. My phone is my business phone as well, I can't afford to be without it for up to 14 days. Spent over an hour on call to them as well. For a simple exchange. One whole hour for them to say, "stick the return label on, take it to DPD, we'll send you a replacement in 14 days".
Have been discussing this on Android Central as well,where there is a longer discussion with a lot of people experiencing the same issue. Whats irritated me is that one person there spoke to Samsung today and they're sending him out a replacement BEFORE he has to send his faulty one back. How is it different for two customers, yet same problem!?
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I wouldn't bother. I can almost guarentee your new phone is going to come back and do the same, it's an issue that came about in Android 8.0. My Nexus 6P did the same after that update.
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This problem is called "Black Crush", and was one of the many problems I experienced with my Pixel 2 XL.
It can be fixed through software updates, and the problem is only visible at low brightness, and that's why most of the people haven't noticed it.
I will put this video for you, is about the Pixel 2 XL, but is about the same problem and also they suggest an app to minimize the issue:
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Thanks for this. Probably the most useful information I've found on the subject. The app is a good temporary fix until Samsung get an update out. The difference is immediarely noticeable.
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Thanks for this. Probably the most useful information I've found on the subject. The app is a good temporary fix until Samsung get an update out. The difference is immediarely noticeable.
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I'm glad it helped, honestly, is just a matter of time for Samsung to fix this, because in theory it should be really easy to patch.
I have the same issue (S9+ Single SIM) and actually created another thread about this a week ago.
For people saying it's an Oreo problem, well my S8 got the official Oreo update and still doesn't have this issue.
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$800 for this? I have no words...
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Actually here in Dubai, the dual sim variant cost me around $950 thats for the 64gb, and this issue is so visible that i cant watch any movie with dark scenes.
I hate replacements as its not guaranteed to get a better display, and apart from this issue i really like the phone, so im really frustrated and dont know what to do but wait for a fix.
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$800 for this? I have no words...
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Pixel 2 XL has the very exact problem, and even worse, and people are still buying it.
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Actually here in Dubai, the dual sim variant cost me around $950 thats for the 64gb, and this issue is so visible that i cant watch any movie with dark scenes.
I hate replacements as its not guaranteed to get a better display, and apart from this issue i really like the phone, so im really frustrated and dont know what to do but wait for a fix.
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As I pointed out, you can install the app recommended in the video and try to improve it for yourself. A replacement won't do anything because is a matter of calibration, not the display itself.
As I pointed out, you can install the app recommended in the video and try to improve it for yourself. A replacement won't do anything because is a matter of calibration, not the display itself.
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I did try the app, it kind of solves the issue at the expense of contrast, better than nothing i guess. Lets wait and see what samy does.
Its kind of weird though, because otherwise the screen is flawless in my unit atleast, for the first time i got an Amoled screen with perfect white balance uniformity.
I think I have this issue as well. Last night while in bed I was watching a TV review on rtings and noticed what I thought was extreme video compression in one of their YouTube videos showing a test pattern. But then I looked at other images on the page and saw similar artifacting, compression or banding. This is very noticeable at low brightness. Even my gradient wallpaper from Samsung themes is showing tons of pixelation when transitioning to black toward the top at brightness below 40% or so. Do you guys see issues with these links below?
https://youtu.be/wg1tWXtH1zg (lots of smearing and compression here, looks horrible)
http://i.rtings.com/images/reviews/tv/sony/x900f/x900f-uniformity-local-dimming-large.jpg (I see a gray blob instead of a faint glow around the pattern)
My S7 edge never did this in over 2 years. It had a great display. I am not sure if my S9+ display is defective or if this a software issue. It seems like software but I am going to head to best buy and see if I can replicate it on another device. I am bummed I traded in my S7 and now can never get it back if this is a dealbreaker.
Is this the same issue you are experiencing?
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I think I have this issue as well. Last night while in bed I was watching a TV review on rtings and noticed what I thought was extreme video compression in one of their YouTube videos showing a test pattern. But then I looked at other images on the page and saw similar artifacting, compression or banding. This is very noticeable at low brightness. Even my gradient wallpaper from Samsung themes is showing tons of pixelation when transitioning to black toward the top at brightness below 40% or so. Do you guys see issues with these links below?
https://youtu.be/wg1tWXtH1zg (lots of smearing and compression here, looks horrible)
http://i.rtings.com/images/reviews/tv/sony/x900f/x900f-uniformity-local-dimming-large.jpg (I see a gray blob instead of a faint glow around the pattern)
My S7 edge never did this in over 2 years. It had a great display. I am not sure if my S9+ display is defective or if this a software issue. It seems like software but I am going to head to best buy and see if I can replicate it on another device. I am bummed I traded in my S7 and now can never get it back if this is a dealbreaker.
Is this the same issue you are experiencing?
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This is a calibration issue, and I'm sure it will be addressed soon because many people are presenting this issue, and with many units I mean most of them.
Is only noticeable in low brightness as you pointed out, and that's why many people don't even know they have it.
I leave an image here taken from Android Central forum:
S9+ in top, S8+ in bottom.
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Interesting. I just tested my S9+ alongside my coworker's S9 regular and his doesn't do this at all. Gradients and blends show up great with no crushing even at low brightness. Could this be isolated to this larger panel? I'm going to head to Best Buy today and see if I can replicate on their S9+.
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Interesting. I just tested my S9+ alongside my coworker's S9 regular and his doesn't do this at all. Gradients and blends show up great with no crushing even at low brightness. Could this be isolated to this larger panel? I'm going to head to Best Buy today and see if I can replicate on their S9+.
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Definitely. I checked it against my wifes regular S9 and hers doesn't have the problem.
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