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Hi guys,
Just found my A70 can't connect to the USB Storage via OTG cable. Seems not detect. Have you meet this kinds of issue?
The obvious question is - are you sure you've got the right cable, I have cables that physically fit and work for some other devices - just not this archos
Even you've got the right USB host cable, e.g. the Nokia CA-157, you may still face compatibility problem. Many digital cameras will be detected automatically if connected. However for other USB mass storage devices, e.g. flash drives or card readers, only a few will work. We all hope that Archos fix this in its next firmware update.
haha71 said:
Hi guys,
Just found my A70 can't connect to the USB Storage via OTG cable. Seems not detect. Have you meet this kinds of issue?
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try to connect an usb-hub and plug your usb-storage into it...that helped me
a problem exist on this firmware with Archos 7.0
Archos knows this problem
see that with the beta firmware
http://www.jbmm.fr/2010/12/07/le-cable-usb-host-sur-larchos-7-0-fonctionnera-bien/
My bet is on power usage. If cable is working than probably device it self drains more than declared 100mA when plugged in. Even if device is rated under 100mA it might more than that when starting.
Just test it, I upgrade to 2.0.71 today, but the A70 still can't detect the USB Storage device...but it really very smoothly right now
Keep in mind that the USB drive needs to have an external power source in the case of an HDD, a flash drive should be fine running off the power of the device tho
Hello I got a USB gender change: A-Female to A-Female so that i could connect a self powered USB Hub to my Archos.
So far i have connected a self power Hard Disk directly into my Archos 70.
Didn't pick it up.
A mouse in the USB Hub.
Didn't pick it up.
A pen drive directly.
Didn't pick it up.
Is the Archos 70 locked down or does the USB Micro B connector they have on the Archos 70 work different?
I thought USB was a universal connector!
... one thing you have to realize is the device needs drivers to work those devices. you just cannot flip flop the connector and expect everything to work. tipically unless the device has a INPUT port which is a standard usb port not a micro or mini 5 or an old 1.1 usb connector it wont work.
Alot of those hongkong micro a to b converters are rubbish.
The nokia has been reported to work.
You need a USB "HOST" Cable, it contains a chip that puts your devices on "master" mode.
The Nokia and Archos one work, for the others don't expect them to work at all if they do not mention to be USB "HOST" cables !
BTW, the feedback is not very good, seems that it can deliver only 200mA, so if you want to plug an external disk drive, make sure you have a power supply on it before
Also some USB keys need more than 200mA so they won't mount at all :/
I found this: http://www.kjell.com/content/templa...9&path=97000000,119000000,149500000,151500000
Translation: Used by for example mobile phones with USB host (it's own built in USB controller).
Is the USB "HOST" Cable the same as this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
foh1981 said:
I found this: http://www.kjell.com/content/templa...9&path=97000000,119000000,149500000,151500000
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That cable doesn't look correct.
[correction - that cable at kjell looks correct for hooking two USB On-The-Go devices together. So if you wanted to hook your Archos to another Archos or to a blackberry.]
Look for a micro usb Nokia n810 host cable. Or "Micro USB Host OTG". They seem widely available in the us on eBay
Usually they have the micro USB male connector and a full size female connector on the other. Be careful because some are mini USB, you want micro USB
Look on the us eBay for a picture.
Here is a pretty good picture also - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51045 several people have confirmed this one works.
Yeah, the connector is obviously wrong on that one. I was mostly curios about whether this USB HOST cable was the same as an OTG.
That's the only cable of OTG type that I've seen in any retail store in Sweden (although I haven't been looking for it until now), so I was thinking of maybe getting it in the store and then get an adapter for the connector. But since there's a special pinning on these cables (as I understand from the Wikipedia article) maybe that doesn't work?
I'll probably go for the Nokia cable anyway, just to be sure, should be able to find it in a retail store somewhere...
fzelle said:
Alot of those hongkong micro a to b converters are rubbish.
The nokia has been reported to work.
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the nokia one doesn't work for me
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$5 now, I paid $8 (figures)
this works fine on my 32IT. I can use my microSD adapter, camera, powered hard drive, multi-card reader with SD cards and USB mouse. Other people have said they can't get USB host to work at all, even with this cable, but it works for me.
USB mouse works ok.
But it`s not enought power for 3G USB dongles.... Печалька.
Nokia ones works ok
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/genuine-nokia-ca-157-micro-usb-otg-to-usb-data-cable-14cm-length-51045
Hi everyone,
and thanks in advance for any help / advice that you may have for me.
I'll start off with my question, before I unload all of my information. I simply would like to know exactly what type of USB Connection the Sony Tablet has, and therefore, what specific USB Cable I need to buy in order to connect it to my PC running Vista.
I bought a Sony Tablet and have been surprised the lack of information in regards to the USB connectivity of the device. Specifically, the exact 'cable type' required to connect the device to a PC. Everywhere I have read so far, it simply says USB Micro, or USB 2.0 micro. But when I try use the micro USB cable that I currently use with my Xperia Play phone (which works fine for PC transfer with the phone) it's doesn't work at all with the Sony Tablet. It doesn't even register on the PC when I plug the cable into the tablet. Just nothing.
Since then, I have read a lot about USB, and found that there are different types, like 'Mini USB' versus 'Micro USB'. Apparently there is also Micro USB 'A' and Micro USB 'B'. And finally, apparently there is 4 pin micro usb and 5 pin micro usb type.
hope this all makes sense, many thanks guys.
Austab.
This tablet uses micro USB, I'm pretty sure the cable for your Xperia should work fine with the tablet. Perhaps you plugged it in upside down?
Thanks for the reply, I agree with your thought train. If it works with the Xperia, then surely it should work with tablet. I'll try it again after work today, and confirm. Is it actually possible to plug the cable in the wrong way around?
I'll kick myself if I did! Thanks again, cheers.
Austab.
It cannot be plugged in upside down, unless you use extreme force and break it.
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But yeah, this cable *should work, if it works with your Xperia Play. In principle there is only one kind of micro-USB cable (well, actually it could have either regular type A *OR micro type A connector at one end, but let's keep it simple. Mini-USB is a different kind and A and B are just connector types.
See this picture with different USB connectors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Types-usb_new.svg
Your cable should have a regular USB A connector (the one on the top left) at one end and micro-USB B connector at the other end (the one on the bottom right).
Yeah, it should work; I'm using the same USB cable that I use with my Xperia Arc.
For what it's worth, I've been having issues too. Mostly windows fails to find the drivers and install them. I've talked to multiple Sony reps and have tried multiple computers but haven't had any luck. Maybe it's a bad cable but I have had Windows detect the device...just unable to install the plug-n-play drivers.
Systems I've tried it on:
Custom built - Windows 7 with Service Pack 1
Dell - Windows XP Service Pack 3
Sony Vaio Laptop - Windows XP Service Pack 3
I had the same problem on both of tablet P and tablet S. I can tell you, its more about luck than the wrong cable type! At the end, it just works after retrying a few plugs and unplugs.
Hope they can get a fix for this soon.
Hey again guys, I've now tried the cable again with my Sony Tablet, and I'm definitely plugging it in correctly. There's no response whatsoever on the tablet or the PC once I've plugged the cable in.
When using the same cable on my Xperia play, the phone will instantly start charging once I plug the cable in to the PC. However, the PC doesn't actually recognize the phone as a device (i.e. it doesn't show up in windows explorer, or launch the Ericsson Phone Software, as it once did). It charges the phone, but doesn't talk to it, if that makes sense.
So it would seem that some Micro USB cables are good for charging only, but not for data transfer / PC recognition.
I'll buy a different cable tomorrow so will let you know if it works then.
Thanks again for all the replies guys I appreciate it.
cheers again,
Austab
Looks like the cable is faulty then and you have to try another one.
I bet one of data wires is broken, or a data contact inside connector is broken (worn down), because when you connect your Xperia Play it should also be recognized as a device.
Then again, maybe there is something wrong with your computer.
Can you try the same cable on another computer, and see if the device is recognized, before you buy a new cable. Or let them check the cable at the store to see if it really is faulty.
My understanding is you need an OTG USB cable, (On The Go) - this is what you need to connect USB keys and other hard-drives and so therefore I would think external PCs too.
I bought a nokia one for around 5 pounds from amazon, do a search for OTG USB cables,
thanks
Pratish
He wants to connect it to a computer, not connect external devices to it.
So he needs a regular micro-USB cable.
the cable is USB Host finde with this name
People, wtf are you talking?!
He *does not* need USB host (OTG) cable. That's for connecting USB devices, like keyboard, mouse, USB-storage etc., to your tablet.
He wants to connect his tablet to a computer. For that he needs a regular type A USB to type B micro-USB cable.
Hi,
Would seem like op had a charging cable, not data one. As stated, he need a regular data cable with appropriate connectors. OTG has nothing to do with it.
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Hi Crazzzik,
so you're saying that there are micro usb cables for charging only, and then there are micro usb cables for data + charging etc? That would explain things perfectly for me, as my cable seems to work for charging devices, but not communicating with a PC (i.e. data transfer).
I'm getting a new cable today - sorted!
Many thanks everyone for your help & advice
Austab
Yes when I got the cable for my sony tablet s, I saw several usb cables that would fit the tablet, but on the package it said specifically "for charging only, not meant for data transfer", so they do make the cabkes just for charging, as a PC tech, I was a little embarrassed that I just found this out this weekend.
Thanks
I also got a microUSB-cable adapter, it works fine with usb driver / joypad and keyboard
but not sure if it's capable for connecting with PC or even for charging
hello all,
I recently bought the usb cable for the tablet they sell at the sony store. The micro usb to female normal usb ( I think you know what im talking about). It is sony tablet specific. The micro usb end of the cable is square instead of tappered at one side. it worked fantastic for plugging in and usb deviced to the tablet, but when I tried to plug it into my galaxy s, it wouldn't fit. just thought those thinking of buying one would appreciate the heads up so its not a shock if they try to use it on any other devices. Im sure you can find that same cable at any well stocked computer shop.
i borrowed a htc wildfire s cable, this works and installs drivers.
hi:
i think i will try to get hptp from ebay.
i see that it doesnt have usb for flash drive..
assuming that if connected to a dongle, it will read/write to flash drives,
which adapter should i search for.. mini male (for tp) > usb (flashdrive)?
thanx
I have read a thread on the usb host mode for the TP (can't remember which of the 8 forums I am on) that the micro usb port WILL support host mode BUT you will need a "Y" cable to provide power at the same time. Do a search for "host mode " on the TP forums and check it out. I have not attempted it so far as I have not found the correct "Y" cable mentioned in the thread.
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You can find infos here :
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There is fully functional USB Host support, you don't even need to do any SW modification, everything is supported out of the box with one caveat, you need external power.
Support for keyboard, mice, harddrives and cameras is fully built in the default WebOS software.
I guess HP planned to sell their own USB attachments, iPad-style.
The only thing you need is USB OTG cable. Like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-micro-U...781644?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19c7d49acc
Basically just search for "USB OTG cable" on ebay, costs about $3. And USB Y-cable. The only two things you need are OTG microUSB cable and USB Y cable to provide external power.
I am still looking into possibility of self-powered usb host mode, with all the support HP built in for it it almost sounds like a given there must be a way to enable it one way or another. Unfortunately chipset documentation is almost nonexistent.
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well i got hptp today..
the ebay link USB OTG cable for was great..
the y cable search was confusing:: i do not know which kind to look for plus.. i dont see how to use this thing.. how does it get power.. i spose the USB OTG cable plugs into one of the "y" but im lost really...
i appreciate all responses..
thanx
What i've bought:
OTG: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...070399?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0e501abf
USB Female to Female: http://www.ebay.com/itm/280732594049?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Y cable: http://www.ebay.com/itm/120626863147?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
External battery with USB: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/2400ma...a-cable-for-htc-desire-g5-samsung-i9000-57905
What i've got: unusable pile of crap. The whole system can power up a mouse or gamepad, or external HDD (which is need to be powered from wall socket in addition to TP) but it's much worse with anything else: 16gb flash stick - lights up, but not enough power to read data, USB card reader don't even lights up. And situation with powering from PC USB (instead of ext. battery) is the same.
Anyway, even if the whole system would work, i doubt that you would take all those cables with you wherever you go, so it's useless.
i watched the russian vid..
hassle w/ capital H
little to zero hope of this gonna ever work
thanx for replies
Today, a friend asked if I had an extra laptop. He needed one for his 10 year old son.
While rummaging through my closet (you know, the one with all the old computers, shotguns, and half empty Jack Daniels bottles) when I found one of these.
Two Pics … http://db.tt/GY4wfof6 and http://db.tt/rzkodoMi
Now, I have no idea as to how, where or when I got this. I had to search the net to even know what it was.
Ebay link … http://www.ebay.com/itm/230328510631?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648
Continuing my search of the closet I also found a 2.5 inch 160 gig IDE hard drive. Assembled the two and I now have a portable battery powered drive that works great with my Flyer.
That looks kinda old school. =)
So you connect to the flyer via bluetooth or microUSB?
It connects with microUSB.
Now that I’ve had a chance to use it a while I’ve found I can set its switch to PC or DC.
When set to PC I just plug it in to my Flyer and can copy files both ways.
When set to DC it will function as a standalone unit (because it has its own battery power). I can plug thumb drives and USB sdcard adaptors into it to move files both ways.
It will even plug into my camera and copy the pictures.
Kind of handy as the Flyer doesn’t supply power at its microUSB port to spin a hard drive.
It’s not what I call well built but seems to work.
At least it does the job! I didn't know we could use OTG harddrive for the flyer...
That's very cool. Vastly increases the number of movies I could take with me on a long trip!
ARRR
Ok so spent about £40 on one of these and it doesn't work with my Flyer(32GB WiFi 3G). Flyer is not rooted and running the latest official version of HC. I have tried both DC and PC but device still does not detect the OTG drive. My samsung mobile finds the device fine.
Are you using a standard micro usb cable ??
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Ok so spent about £40 on one of these and it doesn't work with my Flyer(32GB WiFi 3G). Flyer is not rooted and running the latest official version of HC. I have tried both DC and PC but device still does not detect the OTG drive. My samsung mobile finds the device fine.
Are you using a standard micro usb cable ??
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Yes using a standard micro usb cable
Try this ... Shut down your Flyer (make sure Fast Boot is unchecked in settings) then turn on your drive in DC mode and restart your Flyer.
Your Flyer should find it then and will work from then on.
Using your file explorer of choice you should see a new folder called USB
Hi, tried this but still no go. Ran a USB host and USB OGB diganostics app which still fail to detect the device. The drive works with my camera/Samsung phone and brothers PSP. May have to fork out for WIFI drive.
Still no go with the OTG device. Tried with a friends Flyer and same results. I am going to try this device, is fairly cheap.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-2-5-For-OTG-LCD-Partner-Storage-Backup-HDD-/260990399369?pt=UK_Computing_HardDrives_RL&hash=item3cc43d7389
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Hi, tried this but still no go. Ran a USB host and USB OGB diganostics app which still fail to detect the device. The drive works with my camera/Samsung phone and brothers PSP. May have to fork out for WIFI drive.
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Strange … My Flyer is the 16 Gig Best Buy wifi model and is rooted I wonder if that makes a difference
I use an OTG USB cable on my US BB Wifi Flyer , the standard usb cable doesn't work for me.
DigitalMD said:
I use an OTG USB cable on my US BB Wifi Flyer , the standard usb cable doesn't work for me.
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I have an OTG cable from my samsung but this did not work. what OTG cable are you using? I gather you are connecting the USB device into the OTG cable via a powered hub?
Got it working but it's a hackjob, was going to root but having to downgrade then upgrade again was a pain and was not guaranteed to work. Tried running the OTG cable into a powered hub but for what ever reason would always come up USB device not recognised when plugging in any memory device. Tried 3 USB hubs with the same result. Ended up cutting up an OTG cable and a few other USB cables so I could provide power to the device and then power to the tablet as well. For whatever reason i need to provide power to he memory stick before plugging into tablet. I have tested 4 different memory pens and 1 external harddrive and they all work.
I just bought a generic OTG cable, its about 6 inches long. I think it may have come from HP. I have used both a powered hub and a y-usb hard drive cable and both worked for me.
You have to have power on the device before you plug it onto the FLyer so that on connect the Flyer software knows what type of device it is and can load the driver. Otherwise the Flyer will label it unknown and disable the device.
Managed to get USB on the go to work on my Jetstream. See the following post. as the flyer very similar, should work for flyer too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24814701
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