Been looking at the skyrocket not sure if I want to get it. I live in Phoenix we Verizon lte but don't know when we are getting it. I know that the gs2 is better then the
Skyrocket, processor wise. So can anyone help our give done insight
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if you dont have AT&T LTE in your area, dont get the skyrocket.
No, there are other things...
Our radio actually works - lots of reports are coming in that the Skyrocket is having tons of connectivity issues.
Our battery life is excellent - A number of ****rocket owners are reporting that battery life on LTE is horrible.
Our phone isn't a gigantic fatty.
Our device is faster - it's not the launcher - the Snapdragon is consistently slower in every workload anyone has tested, whether it is the "feel" of the user interface, or if it's a benchmark. As much as I hate benchmarks, when they are consistent with subjective user interface responsiveness experiences, it does say something.
I just copy/pasted from entropy512 thanks....
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I have been contemplating this same thing....
I am in the Chicago market (LTE) I am going to stay with the OG. Already ordered the car dock from Samsung.
I can stream Hulu+ just fine with the OG.
go to the store and compare two phones
do a speed test in the store as well
do a benchmark test as well.
It is too late for me to change to Skyrocket so I say OGGSII is better
igotdez said:
No, there are other things...
Our radio actually works - lots of reports are coming in that the Skyrocket is having tons of connectivity issues.
Our battery life is excellent - A number of ****rocket owners are reporting that battery life on LTE is horrible.
Our phone isn't a gigantic fatty.
Our device is faster - it's not the launcher - the Snapdragon is consistently slower in every workload anyone has tested, whether it is the "feel" of the user interface, or if it's a benchmark. As much as I hate benchmarks, when they are consistent with subjective user interface responsiveness experiences, it does say something.
I just copy/pasted from entropy512 thanks....
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Enough said /thread.
+1 I think the GS2 is better, just go to the development section and see the support already from the devs
This is the exact question facing me. I am in a Non-LTE area.
From the data I have seen, Both phones have advantages and disadvantages. The OGSII has better performance, FM. The Skyrocket has Better GPS, Network Speed (In Non LTE areas, APN related ??)
None of the reviews seem to address whether the Skyrocket battery is better or worse than the OGSII. Also another thing in question is how is the radio, voice signal , data signal in marginal signal areas.
Can any one elaborate if there is any existing info on these.. ?
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No, there are other things...
Our radio actually works - lots of reports are coming in that the Skyrocket is having tons of connectivity issues.
Our battery life is excellent - A number of ****rocket owners are reporting that battery life on LTE is horrible.
Our phone isn't a gigantic fatty.
Our device is faster - it's not the launcher - the Snapdragon is consistently slower in every workload anyone has tested, whether it is the "feel" of the user interface, or if it's a benchmark. As much as I hate benchmarks, when they are consistent with subjective user interface responsiveness experiences, it does say something.
I just copy/pasted from entropy512 thanks....
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I made the mistake of returning my I777 for the Skyrocket. It was a pain but I'm back with the original galaxy S2. I could deal with the other draw backs of the skyrocket, but it does have major connectivity issues in a non LTE area. The Speedtest app took me 16 minutes to download.
Real world testing and data comparisons show very little difference between the snapdragon S3 and the Samsung E* processor. Granted it runs at 1.5GHz (max of course) compared to the 1.2GHz (max), I still think it's worthwhile especially since I'm in an LTE area.
I'm going to go trade in my SGS2 tomorrow. YMMV, obviously.
Real world testing:
(note the HTC Sensation uses the same/similar Snapdragon processor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqqQgoCiupM
My money is on the OGSGS2 (literally)
Thanks for all info guys really appreciate it. Im still well within my 30 days from target. I did get my
Gs2 for 99.00 so that's a big plus. lol
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You can't compare an HTC phone that doesn't even make use of TW 4.0... So what if it has the same processor? Does it utilize the same system ram, the same software interface, etc.? Not trying to be rude, just stating my opinion. If you're going to compare apples to apples, do it with the Samsung Galaxy Skyrocket, not an HTC phone.
The HTC phone looks bad in the video, I am trying to understand if the Skyrocket will behave the same, Without the Htc sense overlay, and with a faster clocked snapdragon 1.2Ghz->1.5Ghz processor compared to the Sensation.
igotdez said:
No, there are other things...
Our radio actually works - lots of reports are coming in that the Skyrocket is having tons of connectivity issues.
Our battery life is excellent - A number of ****rocket owners are reporting that battery life on LTE is horrible.
Our phone isn't a gigantic fatty.
Our device is faster - it's not the launcher - the Snapdragon is consistently slower in every workload anyone has tested, whether it is the "feel" of the user interface, or if it's a benchmark. As much as I hate benchmarks, when they are consistent with subjective user interface responsiveness experiences, it does say something.
I just copy/pasted from entropy512 thanks....
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My radio on my skyrocket has not droped 1 call ....my ogsg2 droped calls everyday.... Not to mention blazing fast internet in and out of my LTE area.
My battery last all day with moderate use ... So what more do you need ...
Phone does not feel fat or awkward to handle.
Id go with the skyrocket
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I say go with the Captivate.
Lmao
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Here's a poll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332266
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My radio on my skyrocket has not droped 1 call ....my ogsg2 droped calls everyday.... Not to mention blazing fast internet in and out of my LTE area.
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The radio problems with the Vivid and Skyrocket are in HSPA (3G) areas. They can drop to EDGE speed or lose data completely. If you're in an LTE area and don't travel it's not a problem. A co-worker with a Skyrocket just got back from a multi-state trip and got EDGE speeds in 3G areas. AT&T’s supposedly working on a fix. Here's a link to the discussion in the Vivid forum. That they're both experiencing similar radio issues isn't surprising considering they're both using similar Qualcomm chips.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337062
Loved my gs2. Really did. I work with all the carriers so I always have envy of the larger screen on the sprint gs2. Zero complaints about the gs2.
My area should have lte in a couple months. I prefer the larger screen. I've have zero connectivity issues. My h+ is faster with my skyrocket somehow. Zero lag. Screen looks just as great.
It comes down to preference but do not let someone tell you the skyrocket is less of a quality choice or that it's slow and the screen is garbage. Benchmarks mean nothing. In real life I've noticed zero difference.
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I read the Vivid posts and it sounds like a network or APN problem, not a device issue. I went from an i9100 to the SR and it's faster on HSPA+ everywhere. I have noticed issues with the pta APN. I switch to phone it works fine.
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I currently have samsung vibrant ,its battery drains too fast ,might be some problem with it
I have the option of replacing it with another vibrant or samsung galaxy s 4g
which one is better ?
I have heard that samsung galaxy s 4g has only 512 MB internal while the vibrant has 16GB
is that too little to the way that makes it defective or to impede downloading apps on it (since most of the apps should be downloaded on the internal memory )?if so is there any solution for that rather than rooting the phone?
I love the idea of having a front facing camera and a better battery life
but im concerned about that memory issue
denverguy said:
I currently have samsung vibrant ,its battery drains too fast ,might be some problem with it
I have the option of replacing it with another vibrant or samsung galaxy s 4g
which one is better ?
I have heard that samsung galaxy s 4g has only 512 MB internal while the vibrant has 16GB
is that too little to the way that makes it defective or to impede downloading apps on it (since most of the apps should be downloaded on the internal memory )?if so is there any solution for that rather than rooting the phone?
I love the idea of having a front facing camera and a better battery life
but im concerned about that memory issue
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I think you're mixing up internal storage (16gb) and RAM (512mb). I don't think you need to worry since those totals are exactly the same as the regular vibrant.
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I think you're mixing up internal storage (16gb) and RAM (512mb). I don't think you need to worry since those totals are exactly the same as the regular vibrant.
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no the internal storage of the samsung galaxy s 4g in only 1 GB of which only 512 mb for apps ,tmobile usually take about 200 mb to preload apps on the phone !
I think you are confused about the memory issue.
Anyway, find out which phone has more dev support, and get that one.
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I think you are confused about the memory issue.
Anyway, find out which phone has more dev support, and get that one.
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Vibrant has more dev support but 4G have more official support but the memory is a huge problem because it will be hard to update the phone since it has so little space
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Same devices internally,
Vibrant = 16GB Internal Mem w/expandable possible, No FFC
Galaxy S 4G = 1GB Internal w/expandable possible, w/FFC
Only difference....
I have both and there are some good roms out there for the sgs4g way better batt life and apps will save to sd
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I have both and there are some good roms out there for the sgs4g way better batt life and apps will save to sd
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4G has 1650mah battery 3G 1500 not all apps can go to sd an roms have to go to internal memory
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Vibrant is better except gps and stock Rom performance.
Oh, and the ffc.
Hspa+ download speeds are not consistently good enough that you will beat the vibrant 3G consistently, since I could get almost Mbps down with mine in hspa+ market.
Maybe I'm being ignorant, but if a 3G vibrant can't hit 7.2 down, neither will any "4g" vibrant.
That's why I'm not into high speed hspa+ devices. You get terrible battery life on them for not much, if any benefit.
I think the only benefit is better upload speeds but my 3G vibrant uploads at 2.5+ Mbps in an hspa+ market which is fast enough for most any task.
Get a 3G vibrant cheap and install a custom rom of you like to tinker. It's a better value for the monetary investment, IMO.
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I have both and Galaxy S 4G is simply better than Vibrant.
1. Better battery life
2. Better GPS
3. Better speed (best 14.3 MBits/s vs 6.2 MBits/s on Vibrant)
4. FFC
5. Better display (personal opinion)
After deleting bloatware, without doing FOTA mod, I have availaible 274 MB.
Krzysiek_CK said:
I have both and Galaxy S 4G is simply better than Vibrant.
1. Better battery life
2. Better GPS
3. Better speed (best 14 MBits/s vs 6.2 MBits/s on Vibrant)
4. FFC
5. Better display (personal opinion)
After deleting bloatware, without doing FOTA mod, I have availaible 274 MB.
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First of all, the vibrant is a 7.2 mbps device. The 4g will not consistently get over 7.2 for the vast majority of people so that's a wash IMO.
Battery life isn't that much better. Its only a 10% increase in battery size.
The GPS is the biggest gain IMO, but the storage is more important. I find the vibrants GPS is fine for accuracy. Where it actually fails is how damn long it takes to lock. This affects people which turn GPS on and off on an as needed basis a lot more than those that leave it on all the time since the phone will almost always do a lock on boot which lessens the time it takes to get later locks for that latter crowd.
The ffc is a win on the 4g, though. Can't argue with that at al. Losing that much space is not worth it IMO. I'd still get the vibrant over the 4g just for the extra > 12g storage in it!
In the end which one is better will ultimately depend on how you use your phone.
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First of all, the vibrant is a 7.2 mbps device. The 4g will not consistently get over 7.2 for the vast majority of people so that's a wash IMO.
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Your opinion doesn't hold water (as usual!)
The higher modulation that comes with "4G" allows for higher peak speeds. The Vibrant has overhead, 7.2 Mbps is only under optimal conditions, never really ever happening. 21Mbps is also only under optimal conditions, but the higher ceiling allows for higher peak speed.
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First of all, the vibrant is a 7.2 mbps device. The 4g will not consistently get over 7.2 for the vast majority of people so that's a wash IMO.
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I consistently get 8-10 MBits/s on 4G, I guess I'm the vast minority. Also, I live 2 blocks away from the T-Mobile store that has 4G tower.
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Battery life isn't that much better. Its only a 10% increase in battery size.
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There is more too it then you think, and it translates to a much better battery life than 10%.
N8ter said:
The GPS is the biggest gain IMO, but the storage is more important.
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In your personal opinion but not in mine. Storage is cheap, broken GPS wastes time. I currently have 16 GB card in Galaxy S 4G and it is more than I need.
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I find the vibrants GPS is fine for accuracy.
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Since you like to respond for others, let me do the same. The vast majority of people have issues with Vibrant GPS that wonders by blocks and occasionally by miles.
N8ter said:
Where it actually fails is how damn long it takes to lock. This affects people which turn GPS on and off on an as needed basis a lot more than those that leave it on all the time since the phone will almost always do a lock on boot which lessens the time it takes to get later locks for that latter crowd.
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I work in a high-rise and leaving GPS on all the time kills battery since it tries to connect all the time. Strangely enough, you also made a comment regarding the batter life.
N8ter said:
Losing that much space is not worth it IMO. I'd still get the vibrant over the 4g just for the extra > 12g storage in it!
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I beg to differ.
I would get the newer model if it had miui support. I don't think I can live without miui ever again.
Krzysiek_CK said:
I consistently get 8-10 MBits/s on 4G, I guess I'm the vast minority. Also, I live 2 blocks away from the T-Mobile store that has 4G tower.
There is more too it then you think, and it translates to a much better battery life than 10%.
In your personal opinion but not in mine. Storage is cheap, broken GPS wastes time. I currently have 16 GB card in Galaxy S 4G and it is more than I need.
Since you like to respond for others, let me do the same. The vast majority of people have issues with Vibrant GPS that wonders by blocks and occasionally by miles.
I work in a high-rise and leaving GPS on all the time kills battery since it tries to connect all the time. Strangely enough, you also made a comment regarding the batter life.
I beg to differ.
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I said the battery was only 10% bigger. I can get over 11 hours on my vibrant. It's on the charger before it can die. Battery life not a factor for me on these phones. I'm aware leaving gps on drains battery.
16g isn't enough to hold my music and videos. The extra 12 in the vibrant is huge cause 32 gb cards are still too expensive IMO.
And yes very high speeds aren't all that common even Verizon lte customers don't get anything near the theoretical max. I can get ~4 down on my vibrant anything more than that I won't notice much since I don't tether or download ridiculously large files on my phones.
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N8ter said:
I said the battery was only 10% bigger. I can get over 11 hours on my vibrant. It's on the charger before it can die. Battery life not a factor for me on these phones. I'm aware leaving gps on drains battery.
16g isn't enough to hold my music and videos. The extra 12 in the vibrant is huge cause 32 gb cards are still too expensive IMO.
And yes very high speeds aren't all that common even Verizon lte customers don't get anything near the theoretical max. I can get ~4 down on my vibrant anything more than that I won't notice much since I don't tether or download ridiculously large files on my phones.
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OK, I guess you like your Vibrant. That is perfectly fine, yet it does not make Vibrant better than Galaxy S 4G.
I used to have a vibrant before the insurance got me the galaxy 4g. I can definitely say that the 4g is better. My speeds doubled which is almost the same speeds as my cable
internet. I don't have a problem with my battery especially since the 1800mah battery from the epic 4g touch is working wonders. I do miss the 16GB on board but I have a 32gb card and never had a problem of having low internal storage. We also have some great developers so not worried about development. Also we have official gingerbread!
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I had both and I think modified vibrant is better.
Some apps on 4g were losing their settings after reboot.
Inernal memory on Vibrant is faster than external SD on 4G.
Also 4g drains more power than 3g.
In 4g they made 2 copper GPS contacts in vibrant it is only one
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my question...are there roms specifically for the vibrant 4g? or do any of the normal vibrant roms install and work the same on the vibrant 4g? just had to do an insurance claim on my vibrant and had to get the 4g. i rooted it, but dont want to go any farther without consulting from the knowledge of xda!
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my question...are there roms specifically for the vibrant 4g? or do any of the normal vibrant roms install and work the same on the vibrant 4g? just had to do an insurance claim on my vibrant and had to get the 4g. i rooted it, but dont want to go any farther without consulting from the knowledge of xda!
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No they are different. Don't install a Vibrant rom to the Galaxy S 4G...bad news
Is this phone supposed to be any faster than the Captivate (Galaxy S), data wise, assuming one is in the 3G section of the AT&T site and the other in the 4G section, or is there really no jump at all? I just tried a speed test with a Captivate and my GSII, and both showed the same speed on speed test which is pretty weird in my opinion...
Really depends on your area, in socal valley I can run a captivate right next the SGS2 and get the same results with the captivate slightly slower with uploads (fixed usually with a I9000 modem)
That's what I did too, haha...Put a Captivate and GSII next to each other in SoCal, and the speed was the same, so I was like =0.
I am in a HSPA+ service area, on my captivate I almost never saw more that 2Mbps down, I see just over 3 on my i777.
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I'm getting way better speeds on my SGS2 than I was getting on my Captivate. I have my gs2 stock, but it's still faster than my Captivate stock, with stock froyo, and with numerous roms. I don't remember exactly what my speed tests were with my Cappy (around 1.5 - 3 DL and .5 to .8 Up), but I'm getting 6+ to 8 DL and 1.5 Up with my sg2
Depends on if you have a real H+ coverage?
To me it's about 3 times faster than captivate in house.
Was getting 600KB/s in a 3g area whereas the captivate only got 300 (no HSPA+ in my neighborhood)
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when I used to use the speedtest app, I got the same data speeds on my captivate and my gs2. As soon as I used the speedtest via the browser, it showed the speed difference.
Yeah, this makes more sense, the browser application and the speed test application have varying numbers...I guess speed test application =/= reliable
yeah, its documented in a few places that the speedtest app is not reliable (maybe on some devices?)
I use the FCC speed test app, more accurate results
I know this is an old thread but I didnt want to start a new one for this. I have been running side by side speed tests with a captivate running cm7. On my gs2 I'm running unnamed 2.1.1 with the UCKK6 modem. I am consistently getting better speeds on the captivate than I am on the GS2 (sometimes over 1+mbps higher) The gs2 has never gotten higher speeds than the captivate. I've tried different modems, Ive run the FCC speed test, the normal speedtest app and the speakeasy.net website all yielding the same results. I'm in an area that is supposed to have great HSPA+ coverage. I just dont understand why my GS2 isnt getting higher speeds than the captivate since it's HSPA+ and the captivate is only 3G(if I'm not mistaken) Both phones were new orders so new sims, service etc..
My captivate RARELY got to 4mbps. My sgsII usually hovers around 6-8mbps
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My captivate RARELY got to 4mbps. My sgsII usually hovers around 6-8mbps
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my Gs2 hasnt gotten over 4 yet
Just now I went outside and did a speed test. my captivate pulled a little over 4mbps and my gs2 was at 3.
Yeah i guess i have to try to different modems and settings because my captivate was pulling 5300 down and 1100 up and my GS2 is only doing a meg faster down and the same up. It kind of retarded that i had to switch my sim card to a 4g one if my speed did not really change. Does anyone know if the 3g supercharger works for 4g. I was going to ask Zep but i figured id ask here since i was making post around the subject
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Does anyone know if the 3g supercharger works for 4g. I was going to ask Zep but i figured id ask here since i was making post around the subject
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??? What 3G supercharger?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276&highlight=v6+supercharger
Zepplinrox's V6 supercharger Kick Ass Kernal (KAK) Tweaks and 3g turbocharger. You have to go to the 4th line down where it says most recent files here to get KAK and the 3g turbocharger. It worked pretty well for my captivate. I think im going to apply it to my SGSII even though its runs as smooth as can be just because i like overkill lol
/me gets popcorn while awaiting results.
I'm in Dallas, TX so AT&T coverage is not an issue here, and I get the same speed on the Captivate and the SGS2 an average of 3mbps down.
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/me gets popcorn while awaiting results.
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lol Zep your the man. Well i havent had time to try all settings thoughly to get a clear and concise judgement on the 3g turbocharger. I started off only getting around 6.3m down and 1.1m up. I ran tweakker and my next tests immediately after were all around 5.6 down 1.1 up. The next day, however, they jumped up to around 7.4 down 1.1 up. I applied 3g turbocharger fastest and experimental and test after that were around 8.3 afterwards. I ran the test five to six times on speedtest.net. I need to create an acct. so i can track this stuff. I was using the app but the app was showing 2m less consitantly on my down speeds. i really should have ran my phone longer after using tweakker to make sure around 7.4 was going to be my norm peak.
I applied V6 supercharger through build.prop and integrated running die-hard & 1000hp and also applied KAK tweak with I/O tweaks off as my phone locked up when i applied the I/O tweaks but thats probably because mine is set to CFQ. Dont know why and will probably set it to deadline. The one thing this fixed for me was the transition using the browser. Going in and out of the browser was never as snappy until now. I just cant slow this MFer down. I was concerned that i let my impatience get the best of me picking up this phone instead of waiting on the next gen as i only get a new phone when i can upgrade every 18 months but i have no doubt this phone will last me the next 18 month easily. Thanks to Entropy512, GTX465x, and Zeppelinrox My phone runs buttery smooth and i have not yet stumbled on a single hiccup. My hat is off to you gents. I feel like my phone is set for overkill and ICS still isnt out and i havent tried to go to 1600mhz. Mine is running @ 1400 BTW and under volted by -100mV. I have a feeling my next phone upgrade is really only going to be for a better screen and camera as speed probably wont ever be an issue.
This might be a bit of good news. Not so sure how much the 720p LCD of the EVO 4G LTE will affect some of these test but I'm hoping not too far off from what the S gets. Sorry if this has been posted. Leaving work and didnt have much time to search.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/05/htc-one-x-vs-one-s/
Another good news. ATT version with S4 benchmarked! So higher screen res doesnt seem to hinder performance. Great news indeed.
http://phandroid.com/2012/04/10/att...k-gauntlet-dual-core-processor-holds-its-own/
Anyone see an article saying the Evo 4g LTE or whatever the evo one is named may actually be better than the one series phones?
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have u not seen the benchmarks of the s4 pwning tegra 3 single thread and multi thread but then again benches dont really matter..tegra is usually good for gaming
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have u not seen the benchmarks of the s4 pwning tegra 3 single thread and multi thread but then again benches dont really matter..tegra is usually good for gaming
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So what about the heat? Which processor is the best? Overheat will effect gaming performance.
More comparison with video. I notice some very minor stuttering in the One S when he is swiping screens. Again I really hope this doesnt translate over to the Evo LTE. The T3 is really smooth on the other hand. I have a Transformer Prime and its very smooth as well.
http://www.intomobile.com/2012/04/05/htc-one-comparison/
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More benchmark comparison
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-x-vs-htc-one-s-benchmarking-war-03221385/
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This might be a bit of good news. Not so sure how much the 720p LCD of the EVO 4G LTE will affect some of these test but I'm hoping not too far off from what the S gets. Sorry if this has been posted. Leaving work and didnt have much time to search.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/05/htc-one-x-vs-one-s/
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The Evo 4g LTE/HTC ONE XL are using MSM8960 which i think is better than the MSM8260A used in the ONE S. So they will handle the 720p resloution just fine.
I might be wrong though.
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have u not seen the benchmarks of the s4 pwning tegra 3 single thread and multi thread but then again benches dont really matter..tegra is usually good for gaming
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This man gets it!
GPU wise the Tegra3 will win the battle...most else is on the S4 side or at most a draw between the 2
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The Evo 4g LTE/HTC ONE XL are using MSM8960 which i think is better than the MSM8260A used in the ONE S. So they will handle the 720p resloution just fine.
I might be wrong though.
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Not exactly right here...
The MSM8260A and MSM8960 are the exact same top to bottom except in one area, and thats the Modem supported. The 8960 is more of a world more chip supporting LTE, GSM/EDGE/GPRS, EVDO TD-SCDMA, DC-HSPA+, among a few others...while the 8260A only supports UMTS(DC-HSPA+, TD-SCDMA)...
clearer break down of all their SoC's is here:
https://developer.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
Though comparing the performance of the OneS to the OneX is not really going to give us a solid idea of what to expect out of the EVO 4G LTE...Display differences b/w the two devices would effect performance some. The best idea will come from the OneXL.
wow...world band support...
too bad the EVO 4G LTE doesn't seem to use a sim card. otherwise i'd be ordering mine asaaaaaaap!
Sorry, but most benchmarks out there seem to be really weird.
Antutu reports what we would expect, namely almost twice as good results for the 4cores. That's integer and float. This result makes perfect sense.
Also, for tests that use only a single core, the two are head to head with an edge for the Qualcomm.
So how in the world should the Qualcomm keep up with the Tegra in other multicore benchmarks ?
Here is something to consider:
The benchmarks claiming the same multicore performance of the two only use two cores. Not all 4.
Why? Because at the time of programming them, 4 cores did not exist and the programs just did the easy thing. Making code multi-threaded is difficult by itself. But making code for an arbitrary number of cores is even more difficult.
Only antutu does it.
There is no other explanation.
Face it.
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wow...world band support...
too bad the EVO 4G LTE doesn't seem to use a sim card. otherwise i'd be ordering mine asaaaaaaap!
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dont read into that much. its only the "supported" bands for the chip. still requires antennae's for each band and all that.
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Sorry, but most benchmarks out there seem to be really weird.
Antutu reports what we would expect, namely almost twice as good results for the 4cores. That's integer and float. This result makes perfect sense.
Also, for tests that use only a single core, the two are head to head with an edge for the Qualcomm.
So how in the world should the Qualcomm keep up with the Tegra in other multicore benchmarks ?
Here is something to consider:
The benchmarks claiming the same multicore performance of the two only use two cores. Not all 4.
Why? Because at the time of programming them, 4 cores did not exist and the programs just did the easy thing. Making code multi-threaded is difficult by itself. But making code for an arbitrary number of cores is even more difficult.
Only antutu does it.
There is no other explanation.
Face it.
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28nm Cortex-A15 vs 45nm Cortex-A9...
part of what you say is true but dont discount the S4 stomping the Tegra3 in some areas. b/c its not about the # of cores, theres a bunch more to it than that...
I'm more worried about battery life and how it handles being in standby
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I'm more worried about battery life and how it handles being in standby
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Battery life is better than evo 3d IMO, both tegra and s4 have better battery life than s2 and s3...................................................
People... the S4 is fast; deal with it.
I really have no doubt that either phone will be fast. Definitely will be faster than the Evo 3d. In my case I'm more concern of how smooth its going to perform when it comes to scrolling. I think thats one area where android has not excelled yet and the tegra 3 IMO is the closest I've seen it, based on experience with my prime. Lots of talk went into how fast the Evo 3d processor was too before it came out and it was the reason I bought it and never bothered waiting for other devices. But the Evo 3d stock wasn't what I expected. A few months later the Samsung Epic touch came out and it was fast and smooth and handled multiple flash video on 1 page at a time without any problem. The other concern I have with Evo LTE is I will be most likely be using the device over hdmi. Not sure how well the S4 will perform. The demo Qualcomm had at CES was laggy (went to CES). My primes tegra 3 have proven to me that it can handle that very very well. It's super smooth and fast and has no degradation in performance and smoothness whatsoever over HDMI.
But I posted the OP to show that S4 is fast in hopes that the 720p screen will not hinder performance or smoothness as much. I'm really hoping so.
Ok now I'm convinced S4 will be on par with T3. See link below. The only thing we wont see are Tegra 3 optimized games.
http://phandroid.com/2012/04/10/att...k-gauntlet-dual-core-processor-holds-its-own/
From my understanding, the Tegra 3 is not LTE compatible. That seems to be the driving factor.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/29/2832546/nvidia-tegra-3-lte-problem-mwc-2012-report
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From my understanding, the Tegra 3 is not LTE compatible. That seems to be the driving factor.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/29/2832546/nvidia-tegra-3-lte-problem-mwc-2012-report
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Correct that's why ATT and sprint will get s4. I really wanted a t3 because my asus prime has it and its the fastest and smoothest tablet ive seen. But after seeing more videos of the s4 in action i think itll be just as great.
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Nice battery comparison. But I wonder how much the s4 screen came in to play. Roughly 1 hour and 22 minutes of test left the S with 84% battery and the One X with 69%.
url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPP-CSkMrf8[/url]
Nice battery comparison. But I wonder how much the s4 screen came in to play. Roughly 1 hour and 22 minutes of test left the S with 84% battery and the One X with 69%.
Right now I have an opportunity to get Line for 15 dollars a month and 50% off data through work. This means I can get a 10gb data plan for $25 a month totaling 40 a month.
Of all the phones on Verizon right now, the HTC rezound and the galaxy nexus are the two phones I'm considering but mainly leaning towards the resound due to its ridiculously crisp screen and great camera and because I'm fed up with Samsung GPS issues. The phone would be $100 for me.
Now should I get it? Or should I wait for the next verizon phone to come out? The only phone coming to Verizon that I could think of is the new incredible. If I wait I'll lose the chance at double the data
Are you guys happy with the resound? What are your complaints ? Likes?
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Get it and a case and screen protector and UV will have a tank in your hands ics on this bad boy runs magnificent
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i just checked out development. So stoked on that. How is the battery life?
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i just checked out development. So stoked on that. How is the battery life?
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depends on the person. Regular battery on GB I get about 15 hours or so, on the extended battery I been getting 30+
ice I get like 12 hours with 4g on and heavy texting and heavy xda forum app use and I haven't calibrated my battery since 2 rooms ago
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For xda app?
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For xda app?
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Yes hit your post then modify on the pop up menu.
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bobdude5 said:
i just checked out development. So stoked on that. How is the battery life?
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I keep mobile data on, though its usually on 3G and looking for 4G (which uses more power), WiFi at home, GPS when needed, sync always on, etc.
With those settings, I get over a day each charge. That includes checking emails and XDA app a few times an hour. If you browse the internet on mobile data you'll see your battery drain pretty quickly, so use WiFi whenever possible.
Honestly, HTC built a beast of a phone here. Sure, you can get better battery on the RAZR MAXX, or pure Android on the Nexus, but we have the best overall specs in terms of processor, camera, screen (720p is a rarity on phones). Definitely worth your money.
The only other option I can think of other than getting it now is waiting for the incredible 4g to drop and getting the rezound then because the price will drop. But then again you probably won't get the double data so I'd definitely get the rezound now.
Not to be a doubter or anything...but 50% off data? Are you certain about this?
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The only other option I can think of other than getting it now is waiting for the incredible 4g to drop and getting the rezound then because the price will drop. But then again you probably won't get the double data so I'd definitely get the rezound now.
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I'm not sure Inc4G will be better than the Rez. Sure, it gets the latest iteration of Snapdragon, but a 20% loss in CPU frequency can negate that.
Incredible 4G:
1.2GHz S4 MSM8960 CPU
qHD display (960x540)
8GB internal storage
4" screen
Adreno 225 GPU
Rezound:
1.5GHz S3 MSM8660 CPU
720p display (1280x720)
16GB internal storage
4.3" screen
Adreno 220 GPU
EDIT -- nevermind...i realized afterward you're saying to get the rezound when inc4g drops.
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I'm not sure Inc4G will be better than the Rez. Sure, it gets the latest iteration of Snapdragon, but a 20% loss in CPU frequency can negate that.
Incredible 4G:
1.2GHz S4 MSM8960 CPU
qHD display (960x540)
8GB internal storage
4" screen
Adreno 225 GPU
Rezound:
1.5GHz S3 MSM8660 CPU
720p display (1280x720)
16GB internal storage
4.3" screen
Adreno 220 GPU
EDIT -- nevermind...i realized afterward you're saying to get the rezound when inc4g drops.
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Uhhh.. the Inc 4g will be much better than the rezound, the drop in clock frequency is negligable, the Inc 4g will run faster then our processor and have much better battery life due to the new architecture of the CPU and the smaller 28nm manufacturing process. Clock frequencys don't mean much when your trying to compare processors from different architectures. Also not having an HD screen and a newer GPU will make it run a lot better with anything graphically intense.
I love my Rezound, but as soon as it's out I'll be getting a Inc4G. If you can wait for the Inc4G to be released while still getting that data deal then that's what I'd do. But, 10 gigs of data at 50% off is a sweet deal. If that deal expires soon, why not get the Rezound, and upgrade later?
where are you guys hearing about the double data promo ending? they had this promo back in november when the phone came out, dropped it for like a month, and then brought it back early feb and it's been going on ever since lol..i haven't heard anything of them dropping it any time soon
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Uhhh.. the Inc 4g will be much better than the rezound, the drop in clock frequency is negligable, the Inc 4g will run faster then our processor and have much better battery life due to the new architecture of the CPU and the smaller 28nm manufacturing process. Clock frequencys don't mean much when your trying to compare processors from different architectures. Also not having an HD screen and a newer GPU will make it run a lot better with anything graphically intense.
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This is true...if you never have had a phone with an HD screen it may not be a bad buy. I will doubt you will be able to beat the price of the Inc 4G if you can get the Rezound for $100. It's also an added bonus getting some decent headphones too.
Also consider development. I wouldn't expect too many Devs jumping for the Inc 4g to be honest. It may be better to get the Rezound because once resource is released for the for Inc 4g our devs will tear that Sense 4 apart and make our roms soooo much better.
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I love my Rezound, but as soon as it's out I'll be getting a Inc4G. If you can wait for the Inc4G to be released while still getting that data deal then that's what I'd do. But, 10 gigs of data at 50% off is a sweet deal. If that deal expires soon, why not get the Rezound, and upgrade later?
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I would jump on the incredible in a heartbeat if it had a bigger screen. I currently have a GS2 on sprint with 4.5" and i feel like 4.0" would be too small. I do get yearly upgrades on that plan though.
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where are you guys hearing about the double data promo ending? they had this promo back in november when the phone came out, dropped it for like a month, and then brought it back early feb and it's been going on ever since lol..i haven't heard anything of them dropping it any time soon
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I just found out through my Verizon rep that double the data is extending through May.
Decisions decisions
And I can get any phone I want for 100 less than the two year pricing..excluding iphone
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to the guy about recalibrating the battery... it doesn't do anything, a google engineer said so, the system wipes the battery stats file at every full charge so if you charge to the green light it's the same as manually clearing the battery stat.bin thingy ...
regarding battery life to the OP the mugen slim extended battery fits in the regular battery door so more life and no more bulk.
I've had my rezound for over a month now. I'm coming from a sensation 4g and then an EVO. This is the best phone by far. The screen is amazing the cam takes awesome pics. I have no lag at all and get a days use on a fully charged battery. Once CM gets the RIL fixed we will have cm9. Overall great phone I think a lot better than the gnex.
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Gonna buy this to mainly surf the web and youtube, so i was wondering if there is a difference in smoothness between the 2 version. By smoothness i mean browing pinching and scrolling, live wallpaper etc.
Nah, not super noticeable if there is a slight difference. Throw a custom Rom on it and the gap lessens even further.
and the north American version has an lte antenna, so if you're in an area you'll be able to browse at lte speeds which are very fast.
The best you'll get out of the n7000 is h+ that tops out at 20mb/s
I get more than double that speed on lte.
and even if you don't live in an lte area now, AT&T have been updating towers like crazy to try and out do big red.
N7000 is much faster! Have you used both or are you going off assumptions?
I have used both and if you can do without lte seen as h+ isnt really bad at all, then get the n7000. And if you put a custom rom on that the i717 is no where near its speeds
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N7000 is much faster! Have you used both or are you going off assumptions?
I have used both and if you can do without lte seen as h+ isnt really bad at all, then get the n7000. And if you put a custom rom on that the i717 is no where near its speeds
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In what ways is it faster?
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akady said:
N7000 is much faster! Have you used both or are you going off assumptions?
I have used both and if you can do without lte seen as h+ isnt really bad at all, then get the n7000. And if you put a custom rom on that the i717 is no where near its speeds
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No it's not. A processor can only do so much, and just because you have an Exynos, doesn't mean it's going to be a buhgillion times faster than an i717. Don't even try spouting benchmark scores, as those have nothing to do with real world experience.
I've used both, and it seems like you're going off of assumptions more than anyone. The devices are pretty much equal, from what I've used of both of them. If the N7000 had a quad core Exynos, then I would be the first to admit it's faster. But it's still just a dual core, and there's really no difference.
Used both......( sold the int. version after 2 weeks, for no LTE, it got hot, and ate battery like a [email protected]@ ***ker...)
Benchmarks are crap...dont bother...
the international version could "perhaps" ramp slightly faster, but I can beat that speed by tweaking a custom rom anyway...(SEE FJMOD B5, or His latest AOSP JB builds)
Exynos has merrit, (LTE nightmare) but Qualcomm has it this time, and at 10 degress lower temps, and 2 hours more battery life..(for me)
P.S. whats up with that fuggly button on the front ??...(Iphone clone button ??)...g
They have different processors and video chips so in certain situations one or the other could be slightly, but noticibly faster.
In my mind the speed of a phone is really the speed of the network behind the phone.