Unlock boot loader questions - need help - HTC EVO 3D

Okay so I bought evo 3d last week the software no. Is 1.22.707.3.
Q1. Can I unlock the boot loader (checked the website not sure )
Q2. If not is there a way around that I can root, plz guide me to the relevant thread
Q3. Should I sell this and get the Rogers branded evo 3d
My main concern is that I want to flash sense 3.5 and any new roms
Thanks
P.s. I have had no problem so far with my mobile infact very impressed by overall performance, have upgraded from dhd

with the phone off (and fastboot unchecked) hold the vol. down key and power button. what does it say after hboot?

First of all,
DON'T UPDATE. DON'T ****ING UPDATE.
The HTC Unlock method requires flashing kernels through fastboot which you don't want. Instead, use the easier revolutionary unlock (s-off) which completely unlocks your phone.
Guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218193
But before you can do this, make sure it says 1.30 or 1.40 after hboot like above. If it says 1.50, you're stuck with the HTC method. However, if your software number is what you say it is, you have HBOOT 1.40.

Thanks 3VO 3D rooted

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Htc bootloader unlock stuck on step 12

I get to step 12 on the htcdev website and everything looks normal yet nothing on my phone changes (no screen asking me if i want to unlock the bootloader). I just got this refurb today and am desperately in need of titanium backup to restore some important info. Has anyone seen or heard of this problem? I would love to get suggestions on a possible solution.
THanks for your help!
hendav said:
I get to step 12 on the htcdev website and everything looks normal yet nothing on my phone changes (no screen asking me if i want to unlock the bootloader). I just got this refurb today and am desperately in need of titanium backup to restore some important info. Has anyone seen or heard of this problem? I would love to get suggestions on a possible solution.
THanks for your help!
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Short Answer: off the top of my head, is the device updated to the latest hboot version? Probably will need the latest hboot version to complete the htc unlock process.
Long Answer: I don't have the HTC steps for their specific unlock method memorized. In order to help you, I logged into their web site, created an account and went as far through the steps as possible without completing their method as I'm already unlocked through the revolutionary method.
Step 10 is the step where the hash code from the device is submitted to HTC. I'm not able to see any step beyond Step 10.
The more information you're able to share, the wider group of individuals you'll allow to provide solutions. If you're able to share with us the specifics of Step 11 and Step 12, we might be able to provide more detailed help.
Keep us updated! Hope that helps!
Im having the same issue unlocking my white evo 3d. came with the lastest firmware out of the box and now step 12 says successful and nothing happens on the phone, very frustrating ive tried getting new unlock bins and nothing im running windows 7 and am very familar with rooting other devices. Any advice would be wonderful
Fixed this stupid issue today myself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
^First post; basically update the phone w/ an RUU and redo the whole unlocking process.
I wasted 4 hours of my life on this ****. grrr
joestuff said:
Im having the same issue unlocking my white evo 3d. came with the lastest firmware out of the box and now step 12 says successful and nothing happens on the phone, very frustrating ive tried getting new unlock bins and nothing im running windows 7 and am very familar with rooting other devices. Any advice would be wonderful
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Your white EVO came with 2.3.4 out of the box? Mine didn't. Shut down the phone, remove battery, then boot into bootloader by holding volume down and power. Once in bootloader tell me the bootloader version. If it is 1.40 like mine was you can use revolutionary. You guys are probably stuck at that step because you don't have the 1.50 hboot and probably have a lower hboot. If it is lower than 1.50 do the revolutionary method.
Sent from Dorian's EVO 3D
I just wanted to chime in and say for anyone having the issue of the HTC Dev root method not working for them on steps 12 or 13:
flash error due to too many links
flash failing
flash hanging on sending Unlock_code.bin
flash appearing to send successfully, but still no disclaimer screen appearing
All of these problems were solved for me after by updating my phone to 2.08.651.3 via HTC software update in the Android OS.
Thanks to dastin1015 and lchupacabras for the suggestion.
I just got a new 3d yesterday, it came with 2.08.651.2 and I got hung up on step 12 as mentioned, it looked like it flashed but I got no unlock screen on the phone. I updated my phone to .3 as mentioned by bleaktrotter and I'm having the same problem...currently downloading the .2 RUU....?
bradbarton said:
I just got a new 3d yesterday, it came with 2.08.651.2 and I got hung up on step 12 as mentioned, it looked like it flashed but I got no unlock screen on the phone. I updated my phone to .3 as mentioned by bleaktrotter and I'm having the same problem...currently downloading the .2 RUU....?
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Did u check your hboot version? If u have 1.30 or 1.40 its been suggested to run the "revolutionary" method to get s-off.
Sent from my "Up all night, sleep all day" Evo3D
hboot is 1.50... i did the RUU to .2 and re did the process and just got the unlock screen...hmm
Here's some additional references:
mpgrimm2 said:
(XDA) TwoLazyG's [GUIDE] Unroot your HTC unlocked EVO 3d (Hboot 1.50 & Stock RUU's)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388501
(XDA) jdeoxys's [How to] Restore evo 3d to latest stock RUU on hboot 1.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337379
Copy of Original HTC Unlocking Instructions form HTCdev.com (plus some extra notes) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437684
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Got my issue with this solved:
Stock Hboot1.50 HTC Unlock/ RUU 651.3 flash problems http://forum.sdx-developers.com/?topic=18852.msg236519#msg236519
So you guys are saying fully update my phone, and then use the htc unlock? Firmware, software, everything?
Nsandhu23 said:
So you guys are saying fully update my phone, and then use the htc unlock? Firmware, software, everything?
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Nope. You need to I.D. your phones Hboot version first.
- Hboot 1.30 or 1.40 : use the revolutionary.io Full S-Off Method (Official RUU updates will kill the exploit).
- Hboot 1.50 : Your stuck using the HTCdev.com unlock method (S-On, Unlocked bootloader, mostly rooted). I used Zedomax's Guide from HtcEvoHacks.com but had some issues that weren't due to Max's guide and had to run the RUU (Rom Update Utility).
My issues: Stock Hboot1.50 HTC Unlock/ RUU 651.3 flash problems http://forum.sdx-developers.com/?topic=18852.msg236519#msg236519
Here's some links I'm gathering:
Evo3d Useful Thread Links: 01-11-12 http://forum.sdx-developers.com/?topic=18827.0
mpgrimm2 said:
Nope. You need to I.D. your phones Hboot version first.
- Hboot 1.30 or 1.40 : use the revolutionary.io Full S-Off Method (Official RUU updates will kill the exploit).
- Hboot 1.50 : Your stuck using the HTCdev.com unlock method (S-On, Unlocked bootloader, mostly rooted). I used Zedomax's Guide from HtcEvoHacks.com but had some issues that weren't due to Max's guide and had to run the RUU (Rom Update Utility).
My issues: Stock Hboot1.50 HTC Unlock/ RUU 651.3 flash problems http://forum.sdx-developers.com/?topic=18852.msg236519#msg236519
Here's some links I'm gathering:
Evo3d Useful Thread Links: 01-11-12 http://forum.sdx-developers.com/?topic=18827.0
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Okay thanks I'll check which hboot I have.
i hav same issue with my GSM version , anyone can fix that , it stuck on step 12
i'll found how to fix this problem and feedback as fast as i can
Ok after 5 hours of trying to unlock my bootloader, all you have to do is install the 2.17 RUU.exe and then go into fastboot and unlock using the htc method.
phonghoangka said:
i hav same issue with my GSM version , anyone can fix that , it stuck on step 12
i'll found how to fix this problem and feedback as fast as i can
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I also I have same issue with GSM version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22947122#post22947122
If you find the solution post it please.

[Q] 1.5 HBoot ?s

I am going to risk being told that I am an idiot here but I have to ask. I have had my 3D for almost a year now and I just can't take not rooting it yet! It is HBoot 1.5 and this the first smart phone I have ever had (the last 8) that I have not been flashing ROMs on. I just gave up that it will be possible but I have seen a bunch of forums on being able to do this.
My questions lie on the fact that I have a Mac and PC but no Linux system. I see the bootable CD options but not sure what is best. Either way it seems like a lot of work for a ROM but I just need to get a ROM on this damn phone! Is there any good videos? Where the hell do I even truly start. Way to many different options. I feel like a NOOB again even though I have flashed hundreds of ROMS and even cooked some back in my WinMob days!
Thanks guys for the help.
This is the General section. Refer to the Questions and Answers section. Just because you weren't rooting doesn't mean you can't post in the correct section.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA
Evo3d HBoot/S-off Differences/Rooting Background Info 8-5-12
Edit: I will no longer be maintaining this post. Instead I have started a full thread to help track the changes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29844067#post29844067
I've had the Evo3D for a few months now and must say I really have come to like it.
If you want root, it's a bit quirky, You basically have 3 options:
(See the Hboot 1.50 HTC Unlock Guide in my signature for info & links)
1) HTCdev.com's "Bootloader Unlock":
Basically this leaves the bootloader's (Hboot 1.50) security flag on (S-On) but "unlocks the bootloader" (kinda like the phones Bios) so that you can manually flash everything except for Radios (Baseband) and Boot Logo's (Splash Screen). Kernels & roms can be flashed once a custom recovery is installed, but there are "extra" steps involved because the /boot partition (kernel/zImage) can only be set to write access from the Android OS or by initiating custom recovery from a pc's "Fastboot Command Prompt". There are workarounds, some work better than others. To flash Radio updates, you have to relock the bootloader and flash an OEM Full Stock Ruu (Rom Update Utility), kinda like Samsung's Sw Updater for the Transform. You also have to register your device with HTC and it "may void your warranty".
2) Downgrade Bootloader from Hboot 1.50 to 1.40 (to get S-Off):
This is a recent development by Unknownforce in the last few weeks. Basically involves corrupting the flashing process of the RUU by removing power in the middle of the flash and "bricking it" (more like mostly bricked). It forces the phone into a special eMMC Download mode that can only be fixed by pushing the older bootloader to the phone from a Linux pc. Good thing is that Closeone has a Linux LiveCD.iso that you copy to a USB Drive or CD and temporarily boot to a custom Linux Interface specifically set up for flashing the bootloader.
Once that's done, you rerun an earlier RUU (compatible with Hboot 1.40) to get the phone working fully, then root via "Revolutionary's site" (another fastboot/adb rooting tool) to get S-Off (Full root), load a recovery, update the radio, then you can flash roms & kernels like normal.
My current setup (keep coming back to MeanRom):
Hboot 1.40.1100 (Downgraded)
Firmware: 2.17.651.5 (Base)
Radio: 1.06.00.1216 (from 2.17 base)
Recovery: 4ext Recovery (Fully Compatible with CWM, which was a bit buggy except for v4.0.1.4)
Rom: MeanRom ICS
kernel: atx 1.9.1
Mods: LeeDroid Tweaks CDMA, ADW_Ex Launcher, Several Apps removed with SDX Stock App Remover (posted in SDX Evo3D General section).
3) Edit: Juopunutbear's S-OFF Wire Trick:
There is a similar third option now to brick (short out pins with a wire) & replace the bootloader on 1.50 with s-off but I haven't tried it. (Must HTC Unlock first & have a rooted "Stockish" rom installed)
dmdelgado said:
I wanted to share with everyone else suffering from HBoot 1.5 that if you have been using Chads ICS Firmware fix because of constant bootloops you dont need to downgrade your HBoot to 1.4. I know every time i would flash the firmware fix it would break many bugs that had already been fixed, I had to flash it to avoid getting constant boot-loops. But Juopunutbear's Wire trick to get S-Off was a miracle fix, and after it turns S-Off it asks if you would like to install a custom Juopunutbear Hboot. After this is done you are officially on HBoot 1.5 S-Off! And can flash any ICSense ROMS successfully without having bootloops! I really hope this helps someone enjoy their ROMs that much MORE because i know it feels good TO FINALLY BE FREED FROM THE CURSE OF S-ON!
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HBoot S-Off Background Info:
mpgrimm2 said:
To be honest I have not considered anything about the bootloader since downgrading and getting s-Off. I will point out that us "downgraders" don't have hboot 1.40 but "Revolutionary Hboot 1.40.1100".
My understanding is that it has more functions than stock hboot 1.40/1.50 but less functions than the Engineering Hboot. Kinda like your Jbear Hboot 1.50.5050, but I could be wrong. I'm sure one of the devs like Mike, Chad, Joeykrim, xhausx, freeza, Unknownforce, Closeone, etc would know.
Hboots:____________________Differences:
1.04.xxxx ? (Eng Hboot) = Extended functions .... Appear to be incompatible with newer 2.89 based kernels
1.30 (Stock Hboot with 1.07.651.1 Gb) .......... Appear to be incompatible with newer 2.89 based kernels
1.40 (Stock Hboot with 1.13.651.7 Gb) ......... Appear to be incompatible with newer 2.89 based kernels
1.40.1100 (incl. w/Revolutionary S-Off) ................. Appear to be incompatible with newer 2.89 based kernels
1.50 (Stock Hboot with 2.17.651.5 Gb) ........ 2.89 based kernels status unknown
1.50.5050 (incl. w/Jbear for GB S-Off) .................. May be compatible with newer 2.89 based kernels & prior fw/kernels (some reports)
1.57.5757 (incl. w/Jbear for ICS S-Off) ................. May be compatible with newer 2.89 based kernels & prior fw/kernels (some reports)
1.58 (Stock Hboot with 2.89.651.2 ICS) ............. Compatible with newer 2.89 based kernels (& Vm ICS Leak), not GB based (some reports)
...............................................................................edit: Some boot issues with AOSP/AOKP roms & kernels reported (ie CM9)
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Unknownforce said:
First, keep in mind, that there are technically two S-OFF's, the hboot and the radio. This is somewhat misleading. When you're phone displays S-OFF on the hboot screen, this is actually the Radio S-OFF, not hboot S-OFF. Gaining hboot S-OFF is actually just as simple as flashing a new modified hboot. (which is why there are revo hboot and now jbear hboot, they have been modified to now have hboot S-OFF)
hboot S-OFF is almost the same as unlocking your bootloader via HTC's method. Just that HTC's method doesn't get you S-OFF and is more limited than revo/jbear S-OFF.
So a few of the the differences here are:
1.) ENG Hboot is S-OFF and offers more fastboot commands and a few more unlocked features. This is an advanced hboot that you can do serious damage to the partitions in your phone if you don't know what you're doing. It's kind of like an all access pass.
2.) The stock hboots are S-ON, they don't allow very many of the fastboot commands. These are limited to very basic fastboot commands.
3.) revo/jbear are S-OFF, they allow for many of the "standard" fastboot commands, like flashing to partitions and whatnot, but not nearly as "feature packed" as the eng hboot, these are typically enough for normal users.
As to it providing any benefit to using a newer version of hboot, the only one that provides more features is the eng hboot for more fastboot access. What this means is that there's no major feature/performance difference between 1.30 and 1.57 aside from some appearance and some security adjustments (to allow HTC Unlock and also attempt to counter the S-OFF/exploits)
As I understand it, the differences between radio S-OFF and hboot S-OFF are basically as follows:
Radio S-OFF has signature verification off, what this means is that you can flash any PG86IMG.zip and it doesn't have to be signed by HTC. This will allow it to flash just about anything from there. This is why you can revert to a lower hboot without having to do anything special when you accidentally (or purposefully) flash a new hboot over your revo or any other hboot. Radio S-OFF also doesn't check the signature of most of the current partitions (so you don't get "security warning")
hboot S-OFF allows many more of the fastboot commands to be accepted and opens up the ability to flash some of the restricted partitions from it as well.
Hope this helps clear up some confusion.
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fergdogg23 said:
I am going to risk being told that I am an idiot here but I have to ask. I have had my 3D for almost a year now and I just can't take not rooting it yet! It is HBoot 1.5 and this the first smart phone I have ever had (the last 8) that I have not been flashing ROMs on. I just gave up that it will be possible but I have seen a bunch of forums on being able to do this.
My questions lie on the fact that I have a Mac and PC but no Linux system. I see the bootable CD options but not sure what is best. Either way it seems like a lot of work for a ROM but I just need to get a ROM on this damn phone! Is there any good videos? Where the hell do I even truly start. Way to many different options. I feel like a NOOB again even though I have flashed hundreds of ROMS and even cooked some back in my WinMob days!
Thanks guys for the help.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585846
mnomaanw said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585846
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I wouldnt try this.
I would first try to downgrade hboot or just unlock your hboot 1.50 and use 4ext to flash roms and flash GUI to flash kernels..
I ended up bricking my evo by using the Juopunutbear S-OFF wire trick.
fergdogg23 said:
I am going to risk being told that I am an idiot here but I have to ask. I have had my 3D for almost a year now and I just can't take not rooting it yet! It is HBoot 1.5 and this the first smart phone I have ever had (the last 8) that I have not been flashing ROMs on. I just gave up that it will be possible but I have seen a bunch of forums on being able to do this.
My questions lie on the fact that I have a Mac and PC but no Linux system. I see the bootable CD options but not sure what is best. Either way it seems like a lot of work for a ROM but I just need to get a ROM on this damn phone! Is there any good videos? Where the hell do I even truly start. Way to many different options. I feel like a NOOB again even though I have flashed hundreds of ROMS and even cooked some back in my WinMob days!
Thanks guys for the help.
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I know exactly how you feel. I used to flash my HTC Wing all the time with Windows Mobile. Even tried my hand at cooking some roms. Coming over to Android many years later -- yeah makes you feel like a noob again.
Its not that hard really. You are already familiar with what is involved with flashing. All you have to do is take it one step at a time. Just like you did years ago with Windows Mobile. Lots of tutorials walk you right through it. After you do it, you'll look back and see how easy it really was.
You'll need to unlock your bootloader and root the phone. Once you've done that you can flash almost any rom on here. I would not go S-Off just yet. I have read that downgrading your H-Boot slows the phone way down. There really is no good way to do it with 1.5 yet. There may not ever be as Sprint stopped selling the Evo 3D and lots of people are moving on to other phones.
The night I did mine, I started at 7:00 pm and finally figured it all out and got it done it was 4:30 am.
Just have to do alot of reading. No way around that.
How does soff slow the phone?
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2
patrao_n said:
How does soff slow the phone?
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2
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Just read on here, its not S-Off that slows down the phone, its the downgrade of H-Boot.
Here is the link to what I read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661709
Here is what the guy says:
frexe said:
I recently downgraded to 1.4 hboot with revolutionary s off. I then updated with Freezas AIO. And running meanrom ics 1.0 now.
The problem is that my 3g speed is at slug speeds. Ping is up at 900ish download and upload is below 100.
Before I was on hboot 1.5 2.17.651.5_Radio_1.06.00.1216 and had decent speeds.
Just wondering if someone can shed some light to this problem. Or maybe I have to go back to 1.5hboot and live without a true root.
My Phone is flashed to boost.
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iTzLOLtrain said:
I wouldnt try this.
I would first try to downgrade hboot or just unlock your hboot 1.50 and use 4ext to flash roms and flash GUI to flash kernels..
I ended up bricking my evo by using the Juopunutbear S-OFF wire trick.
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This^
Unlock and try 4ext first it will allow you to flash roms and kernels without the need to downgrade. I downgraded to hboot 1.4 because I was getting boot loops but I read that a lot of unlocked hboot 1.5 S-On people are fine so try first before going through what can be a tricky and somewhat risky process to get S-Off.
I have experienced no slowdown from downgrading and I can't see how that would have an effect but I'll let someone more knowledgeable chime in if that is a factor or not.
I haven't seen any speed slow downs with Hboot 1.50 downgraded to 1.40 either. I have seen slow downs when sprint was working on tower upgrades that went away after a week or two (drove me nuts). I would point out that the person that reported downgrade "related" slow downs had flashed the phone to Boost mobile, so there's another factor to consider. Edit: Reading thru the rest of that thread proves it wasn't related to Hboot/S-off.
I'm a bit leary on the Juno method, but I've seen references to people shorting out the pin before in lieu of a Jtag setup, so it's pretty much as sound/risky as Unknownforce's Downgrade method. Although, the hboot downgrade has a huge number of successful attempts and the handful of permabricks where because someone got in a hurry and skipped a step/didn't pay attention to what they were doing.
mpgrimm2 said:
I'm a bit leary on the Juno method, but I've seen references to people shorting out the pin before in lieu of a Jtag setup, so it's pretty much as sound/risky as Unknownforce's Downgrade method. Although, the hboot downgrade has a huge number of successful attempts and the handful of permabricks where because someone got in a hurry and skipped a step/didn't pay attention to what they were doing.
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Agreed.
I'll admit that the JuopunutBear (wire trick) method may look a little more risky than the HBoot 1.4 downgrade process, but I've done two Evo 3D's using a paperclip wrapped in scotch tape (not the preferred equipment) and haven't had a problem with either phone. Several of the "bricked" users have reported a USB status in Windows of "QHSUSB_DLOAD" in the HTC Unbricking Project thread and I added this post from the HTC Amaze forum to the thread which claims that status is not a real brick (if it was there wouldn't be any indication the phone was even connected in Windows) and it can be recovered using the ControlBear utility. I got no feedback from the people that were reporting that status, and the OP also indicated that the phones were probably not hard bricked.
I haven't seen any feedback from anyone with a "bricked" phone about contacting the developers via the IRC channel they advertise on their website (#juopunutbear on freenode) or PM'ing them as I suggested in the jb thread. I have only been able to identify a few users that claim to have bricked their phones via the jb method, but they seem to be posting about their negative experience with that process in many different threads.
I don't really care which method people choose to get to S-Off as they all have risks involved and it's up to each person to determine what level of risk they are willing to take. The JuopunutBear method was a lot simpler for me and I'm not convinced the risk is that high if you use the right type of wire (insulated copper wire is recommended) and follow the instructions as documented (which a lot of people don't), but that method is fairly new and I wouldn't blame people that are HBoot 1.5 S-On for waiting a little while longer to see how many more users claim to have bricked their phones with that method.
Most people can get by with HBoot 1.5 S-On using tools like 4EXT SmartFlash and Flash Image GUI, but for those that have problems with the stock ICS kernel or want to get to S-Off for other reasons, at least there are alternatives now.
ramjet73
just stay with 1.5 s-on
ive been on 1.5 for awhile with s on and it hasnt been that big of a deal. My old evo was soff and there were some nice rom switching with cwm but I uaes to use cwm to flash roms on my evo and it worked like a charm but it does not let you flash the kernal, I was having to flash kernal seperatly with flash gui which is a free download but 4xt works fine and dont have to flash kernal seperatly but eitherway is fine as I usually use specific kernals anyway. I found a routin that I am happy with and wont switch until I brick my phone or get a new one lol.
Good luck

[Q] HTC Flyer Asia/India RUU issue

Hi All
Hoping someone has the good grace to help me out here.
My Indian 3G variant Flyer was updated OTA to Honeycomb which unfortunately resulted my tablet basically locking at the white HTC logo screen.
I've followed a number of tutorials here with no luck trying to get it back to GB.
Tablet Info:
Locked and S-On
Hboot - 1.11.0003
Microp-0950
Radio-3809.07.004.06_m
eMMC-Boot
The issue I am running into in when I run the GB RUU for my tablet.
I get the Error [140]: Bootloader Version Error.
Would appreciate some help or where to from here please.
Was your flyer rooted or anything prior to attempting the update?
Flyer
Unsure unfortunately, I bought second hand and was running stock GB, but it did have the Revolutionary Hboot.
your hboot now says s on but you were s off prior? That does not make sense to me
Flyer
Yes that how it stands at the moment, was on Stock GB then updated to OTA HC.
Nothing but the white HTC screen after that.
Followed Globatrons HC downgrade tutorial and now just get stuck at the RUU install procedure with the Error [140] Bootloader Version Error.
Appreciate the replies mcord.
Couple of things
Sure you have correct ruu
Which downgrade procedure
What steps in the downgrade procedure did you accomplish
Oh man, you are testing me, I've looked at multiple threads concerning downgrading. I'm sure I followed this How to return to S-On after revolutionary first and foremost.
And got through to the RUU install, then that's when I get the error.
Im pretty sure that my RUU (RUU_Flyer_hTC_Asia_India_2.27.720.1_Radio_20.3504.30.089BU_3809.07.04.06_M_release_205504_Signed) is the correct one but I'll check my cid again to make sure.
I am nottesting you just trying to figure how screwed you are
Ok so you were s off when you tried OTA, first mistake
After it failed you attempted to return s on, second mistake
Sounds like you succeeded in pushing s on hboot through recovery but now your ruu won't run because you show a hc system that is newer than the ruu you are trying to run
I think
I think you want to try to gain soff using revolutionary first
No problem, just a figure of speech .
Yeah, like I said bought second hand so was unsure of the unlocked/locked state. But after going through these issues, Im learning to become very comfortable with Fastboot and the guides here.
Ok, so how do I gain soff with revolutionary without booting into Android and no adb?
Again, I appreciate the help mcord.
Not sure this works but try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194709
If not maybe htc dev unlock
I am concerned that you will not have USB debug enabled and that could be a problem
Do you know if a ruu exist for your device for hc
Yeah I've looked at that, the issue is 'Note: The device should be fully booted to android now, do not go to the bootloader or fastboot.'
I'll have a look at the HTC Dev Unlock but unsure if they even do it for the Indian Flyer.
Was thinking the same thing in that I may have to wait for an HC RUU to become available, which I do not think has happened yet.
We have to get you recovery
I'm all eyes and ears mate.
No s off no htc dev unlock I think I am out of ideas outside of maybe a gold card of another version of hc but I am no help in making one
Hey no worries, appreciate you jumping in to help out.
I think I am going to have a similar problem my flyer wifi model os due back Friday from repair I had to restock it all cause screen was playing up.Well htc will upgrade it to HC as standard so what would my option be?
Does anyone know if there is an Asia/India Honeycomb RUU available?
LallyNZ said:
Yeah I've looked at that, the issue is 'Note: The device should be fully booted to android now, do not go to the bootloader or fastboot.'
I'll have a look at the HTC Dev Unlock but unsure if they even do it for the Indian Flyer.
Was thinking the same thing in that I may have to wait for an HC RUU to become available, which I do not think has happened yet.
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Yeah, HTC dev unlock does work for India Flyer, but nothing to do with India, just chose Flyer WWE
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Thanks bud, a long shot but I'll ask anyway, will the WWE RUU also work on the Asia/India Flyer?
ok, I've managed to unlock via HTC Unlock Bootloader.
Device Info now is:
Unlocked
S-On
HBoot 1.11.0003
Where to from here team?

[Q] S-Off without htcdev unlock

Hey guys, anyone have advice on whether or not to use HtcDev unlock method or wait for another method? I have a protection plan through Best Buy and they don't even check to see if its been "tampered" or not if I need a replacement. I am coming from EVO 3D and had hboot v1.4 so I never needed to use the HTC method. Just curious if it is harder to flash Roms and kernels with HTC method I guess. Thanks for the help in advance and its great to see such great devs working on this great phone already.
For the 3d it was a little harder, but not sure if that's the case for the LTE. I am personally gonna wait for s-off, but there is an app that let's you flash kernels without going through fastboot. Flashimage GUI I'm sure it will have to be updated to work with the LTE if It's even needed.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
There is no s-off right now, but there are custom recoveries that work with the HTCDev unlock. Which means, custom roms and backups.
So am I correct in assuming that htcdev unlock with a custom recovery will function the same as s-off in terms of flashing roms, kernels, etc.? Also I should be able to still execute an s-off after performing the htcdev unlock, correct? I would hate to do the htc unlock method and then not be able to get s-off... Thanks again guys!
I have a similar question. When i use HTC dev to unlock, they will keep track. Do they notify sprint that my phone is no longer stock? Can you htc dev LOCK, so as to get it back to normal? I kinda don't even want to root if I have to let HTC know that I'm doing it by htc dev.
jirafabo said:
I have a similar question. When i use HTC dev to unlock, they will keep track. Do they notify sprint that my phone is no longer stock? Can you htc dev LOCK, so as to get it back to normal? I kinda don't even want to root if I have to let HTC know that I'm doing it by htc dev.
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When you dev unlock HTC keeps the sn of your phone on file as being unlocked, I doubt they say anything to Sprint though. Even if you relock HTC still knows. I would give it a couple weeks and see if we get s-off if not then you might want to reconsider htcs method.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
rmusic2400 said:
So am I correct in assuming that htcdev unlock with a custom recovery will function the same as s-off in terms of flashing roms, kernels, etc.? Also I should be able to still execute an s-off after performing the htcdev unlock, correct? I would hate to do the htc unlock method and then not be able to get s-off... Thanks again guys!
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Not sure about s-off after unlock though I don't see why you couldn't, but on the 3d with the HTC unlock method you had to either fastboot into recovery through adb or use flashimage GUI to flash kernels.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
First off htc dev sucks. I had it for a while on my evo 3d with hboot 1.5 and it was terrible and I was dying from being confused on how to flash roms. It worked great for some people and for others like me it didn't. So far right now i'm htcdev unlocked and it's fine I guess. Of course once we get s-off i'll totally go that way as s-off is soooooo much better than the dev unlock.
alainater said:
First off htc dev sucks. I had it for a while on my evo 3d with hboot 1.5 and it was terrible and I was dying from being confused on how to flash roms. It worked great for some people and for others like me it didn't. So far right now i'm htcdev unlocked and it's fine I guess. Of course once we get s-off i'll totally go that way as s-off is soooooo much better than the dev unlock.
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Yeah I heard it was terrible on the 3D, luckily I had hboot 1.4 so I had s-off... Is it as terrible with the LTE? It seems to me that with clockworkmod recovery and htcdev unlock you are able to flash zips the same as with s-off. Don't know if I am correct on that though...
I thought I read that somewhere too. If that's the case HTC dev unlock would be fine with me.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
durandetto said:
I thought I read that somewhere too. If that's the case HTC dev unlock would be fine with me.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
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Yea me too, I have already registered with the htcdev website just awaiting confirmation that I can flash zips as usual...
Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Yea thats what I seem to be reading. It seems if you just flash the ruu that it will re-lock the phone as if it was never done. Sounds great, I will try it out tonight! Thanks guys
HTC unlocked last night no problems. Also rooted first in under a min on Friday night after I picked the phone up. use Goo manager in the market to install TWRP after HTC unlocked, very easy. flashed viper ROM today, and everything is fast and sweet. Don't know what U are all waiting for, go ahead.
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HTC unlocked last night no problems. Also rooted first in under a min on Friday night after I picked the phone up. use Goo manager in the market to install TWRP after HTC unlocked, very easy. flashed viper ROM today, and everything is fast and sweet. Don't know what U are all waiting for, go ahead.
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Cool Ryan thanks for the confirmation I will be rooting and unlocking tonight!
Now if the htc unlock allows us to write to boot to flash recovery and kernels, would there even be a reason to wait for dev S-off? besides not having to register with htc?
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Now if the htc unlock allows us to write to boot to flash recovery and kernels, would there even be a reason to wait for dev S-off? besides not having to register with htc?
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Flashing different radios, I believe. Can't do that without S-OFF.
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Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Just to clarify: So unlocking via the HTC method, installing this and then un-rooting with the RUU (if necessary) won't show any evidence of 'tampering', correct?
It might not show any evedence but HTC will know, they keep track of what phones are unlocked. That's why you go through the whole process with the unlock codes.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
I dont understand what anybody cares if you register with HTC or not. I have insurance with Sprint and I have taken my phone to them to get repaired without any problems.

[Q] 2+ yr old Hboot 1.58 EVO 3D ROOT/CONVERT !!!HELP!!!

I have an old EVO 3D i want to use as an mp3/media player and camera. Problem is I'm having a hard time rooting it so I can get the pre-installed apps off it. I tried the one guide off here, but either the HTC Sync manager could find my phone, some of the tools required for the root don't work with my phone (HBOOT 1.58) or they are gone/changed. The steps involved seem more complicated than it should. Any way this can be fixed?
Depends alot on how you want to do things.
Check to see if hboot says; locked, unlocked, or relocked. If locked you will need to go to htcdev website to get unlock token and see how to unlock. Unlocked hboot lets you install custom recovery, from which you can install su. If it says relocked, all you have to do is send fastboot command to unlock, phone has unlock token already.
It sounds like you are using windows, newer then xp, which you will need to find drivers :and fixes to get phone to connect.
I would use ubuntu, linux, no need for drivers and can run from flash drive. Or windows xp, anything newer has usb issues.
Sent from my DOWNGRADED EVO 3D
this is what i get from the revolutionary exe:
PG86100 (shooter-1.58.0000, Android:4.0.3, ROM version: 2.95.651.6)
not supported
this is the Tool 0.4pre4
doesn't say locked or anything else at all really. how would i find out if it's locked or not?
turn phone off, pull battery, to ensure full power down. Put battery back. Press and hold vol. down button, then press power button.
Read this for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817513
Sent from my DOWNGRADED EVO 3D
It says LOCKED. so where do I go from here?
You unlock, or s-off.
Sent from my DOWNGRADED EVO 3D
I put together an easy(easy as it gets) guide for s-off'ing your CDMA Ev03d with hboot 1.5x
the process is a little more complicated for 1.5x hboot phones due to revolutionary s-off not supporting any version newer than 1.4. And don't bother with unlocking with the token retrieval / HTcdev.com mess. It won't work with hboot 1.58. besides you will not have the full benefit of S-off with just unlocked phone
So you must brick the phone, then plug into linux terminal and and run recovery tool which will downgrade the hboot to 1.4 and the main version to 0.01. Then flash the main version to 1.13 by running a RUU exe. After that, you may run revolutionary s-off and you're rooted. Run the latest RUU and you are done and back on main version 2.95(after system updates) with hboot 1.58 and S-OFF, fully rooted
Things you'll need:
blank CD and burner, know how to boot from a CD
data USB cable
Micro-sd adapter so you can put files directly on your micro-sd from your PC
All summarized in my post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794935
Good luck
okay
could ya explain all that to in a way that even a noob like me can understand?
Cieran said:
could ya explain all that to in a way that even a noob like me can understand?
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Without some basic tech know-how, you're going to have a bad time
Your Hboot 1.58 needs to be downgraded to 1.40(the dirty way) before you can run revolutionary S-OFF.
Things you'll need:
Linux live boot disk/USB, trial version
USB data cable
Micro-sd adapter so you can put files on your micro-sd from your PC
All summarized in my post here in the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794935
This isn't completely true. You can soff on hboot 1.58. It's been done many times and I did it myself.
This guide is pretty straight forward and geared exactly toward your situation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889438
Otto, how's it going? , I know your situation sucked. It happens for some people, but it's not the case that everyone on 1.58 has to go through it. Most people can just go with juopunutbear s-off. It's usually when there's a phone repair and the motherboard had been swapped. It causes a mismatch in firmware with no option to run an ruu.
Brian706 said:
This isn't completely true. You can soff on hboot 1.58. It's been done many times and I did it myself.
This guide is pretty straight forward and geared exactly toward your situation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889438
Otto, how's it going? , I know your situation sucked. It happens for some people, but it's not the case that everyone on 1.58 has to go through it. Most people can just go with juopunutbear s-off. It's usually when there's a phone repair and the motherboard had been swapped. It causes a mismatch in firmware with no option to run an ruu.
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Oh yeah you could do that! Though I am totally unfamiliar with the juopunutbear, I was under the impression that it was for GSM only
I recently walked another user through rooting their sprint 1.58 hboot with success with brick/downgrade, though unknownforce's ultimate.zip did not work for them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-evo-3d/cdma-development/help-root-unlock-t2829008

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