OK so this is like the 6th time I've rooted my device, after reading many threads / websites, etc, all saying how 'amazing' root is. Well, I'm still disappointed.
Is there anything good to use for root users?
OK theres titanium backup, but that's useless - to me - as bloatware doesn't bother me and I don't **** around with my device.
Granted, GameCih2 is good, but it rips the fun out of games after a while.
I can't seem to find any other root apps that make me think 'Damn, I'm glad I rooted my phone!' just so that I can use that app.
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Rooting is often better when using alternate roms.
You have to root if you plan to use MIUI... and I've been thinking "damn I love my phone" ever since I flashed MIUI
RicoonDK said:
You have to root if you plan to use MIUI... and I've been thinking "damn I love my phone" ever since I flashed MIUI
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Looks VERY nice, how's the battery life though?
If you have no idea what root is, and expecting something magical to happen, maybe it's better to just leave it as it is.
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If you have no idea what root is, and expecting something magical to happen, maybe it's better to just leave it as it is.
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I know exactly what root is, I just don't see the big fuss about it.
CyanogenMod is the big fuss lol
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Yeah, you don't "**** around with your device" so overclocking, kernels, radios, and roms are not really for you.
Adfree, TB, ROM manager, root explorer, cache cleaner, etc. The list goes on.. Superuser only.
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I know exactly what root is, I just don't see the big fuss about it.
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If you'd knew you wouldn't start threads like this. You're like a guy who buys a lawnmower just because everyone says how awesome they are, but you live in a flat. So you just store your lawnmower in the living room, and have no use for it. If you don't need root, don't root. Many of us need it for certain things we do with our phones. It's not because all the cool kids have it, so we have it also.
Likewise root ls required to carry out certain tasks.
SGS newbies seem to root phone just because rather than as a tool required .
jje
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okmijnlp said:
OK so this is like the 6th time I've rooted my device, after reading many threads / websites, etc, all saying how 'amazing' root is. Well, I'm still disappointed.
Is there anything good to use for root users?
OK theres titanium backup, but that's useless - to me - as bloatware doesn't bother me and I don't **** around with my device.
-Title, Thanks.
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The person that is happy with the device the way it came out of the box has no reason to root. I would think the average XDA member is not that user. The ability to have as much control of your device as possible is what root enables. For instance Titanium Backup allows me to backup my apps so when things go wrong I can restore my device much quicker without re-downloading every app.
Rooting allows the installation of Clockwork or Streakmod recovery which enable Nandroid backups of the entire system. Then to me the ultimate reason to root is to experience custom ROM's. These developers that take it upon themselves to improve the operating systems that run the devices are incredible. Doing things the billion dollar corporations can't or won't do to make the devices perform to the utmost of their abilities. This is not of course for people that don't f73k around with their devices. You have wasted you time 6 times.
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... You're like a guy who buys a lawnmower just because everyone says how awesome they are, but you live in a flat. So you just store your lawnmower in the living room, and have no use for it...
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LMAO. Brilliant analogy. Not exactly accurate. But amusingly random and gets the point across...
flashing....
RicoonDK said:
You have to root if you plan to use MIUI... and I've been thinking "damn I love my phone" ever since I flashed MIUI
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I loved my HD2 running hyperdroid. But i just got a Galaxy s2 and Im not impressed with (stock) device. I swear the streaming video was clearer, the wifi reception better, and internet was faster on my rooted HD2 than a stock Galaxys2.
After your flash, are these the kind of things that were improved? I cant even remember how my WM HD2 compared in these areas to my android HD2.
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Ok, I was thinking about maybe using that one click root app I found on the market but i need to know how safe is it? and is there a fully awesomely working version of Froyo out there or even gingerbread I can use and if so how do I install it?
And when the official froyo update comes out will my phone still be able to revive the over the air update?
Using the OCLF/Root was completely safe and easy, for me at least.
No issues at all doing it, it went very smooth with no issues at all.
Yes -- you can still receive OTA updates once you've rooted.
Ian
def no gingerbread out there for you to run
uhmmm i think if you arent even sure how to root, maybe you shouldnt get yourself into a beta rom.
98classic said:
uhmmm i think if you arent even sure how to root, maybe you shouldnt get yourself into a beta rom.
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yEA, i KNOW YOU ARE PROB RIGHT BUT i REALLY WANT FROYO SO MUCH
ps- sorry for caps
Safe as in what? Secure wise or bricking your device? The Vibrant is easy to root but secure wise you need to be careful since your device will be "open" to any program getting root access.
I see people use the click app to root their phones. Check it out on YouTube that's where I found the info. Personally I am not going to root my cuz I don't want to deal with the headaches. Yes I have root one android phone before & was successful. I enjoy putting different roms but when I flash CM6 one his first updates on that then later on couldn't change the rom. The reason cuz I had a low memory I was told on the phone internally. So I am taking no chances with phone.
vamp6x6x6x said:
yEA, i KNOW YOU ARE PROB RIGHT BUT i REALLY WANT FROYO SO MUCH
ps- sorry for caps
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Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
NoDataFound said:
Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
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lol, well, all I have to say for myself is i didnt realize i was doing it til i was done
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Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
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So are you admitting you like sausage lol
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vamp6x6x6x said:
lol, well, all I have to say for myself is i didnt realize i was doing it til i was done
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So you couldnt just delete what you typed and typed it correctly?
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So you couldnt just delete what you typed and typed it correctly?
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Too much work. Easier to add ps.
I be posting this from my wicked awesome vibrant!
Before Rooting....
1) learn how to use the keyboard
2) find out what Froyo and the consequences of installing a beta are
3) No, if you install Froyo probably you won't be able to get the OTA update when available and, you may not be able to roll down if you want to.
I would stay out of it if i was you
not worthy to just root to flash the leaked Froyo... You only get the 'skin' of Froyo.. there is no JIT and GPS is not working
I would not root, because judging by you, you dont know much about android.
Few devices have froyo,
No devices have gingerbread.
If you think gingerbread, or even froyo is out then chances are you dont know how to use root features.
ps. I am not flaming, k?
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SamVib said:
I would not root, because judging by you, you dont know much about android.
Few devices have froyo,
No devices have gingerbread.
If you think gingerbread, or even froyo is out then chances are you dont know how to use root features.
ps. I am not flaming, k?
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I understand what your saying, and believe me I know a lot about android and actually a little bit about rooting but I am super paranoid about bricking my phone for two reasons:
I love my phone.
I had to pay full price for it.
What I don't understand that much is about different roms and whatnot. As for the Gingerbread thing I was kidding, but I was serious about the Froyo thing...but after reading this thread i have decided that if I do ever root with the one click root app it will only me to install simple things like lag fix, adfree, etc. Thank you for your help.
To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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Or you can revert to a backup.
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vaughnsphotoart said:
To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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Simple unroot your phone
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Simple unroot your phone
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you know the one-click root that comes with the one-click lag fix? The unroot part didn't work.
This was my experience hacking on the g1 too... sometimes things worked, sometimes they didn't. When they don't, it's a lousy trip.
I just get sick of messing with it sometimes, and just want it to work.
First off, I would like to say that I have been actively reading and searching the web for information on these topics and I have found many different sources and answers.
The reason why I am still starting a new threat about this is because I am completely new to the 'development'/modifying spectrum of my phone. And while many of the threats give accurate descriptions on how to root it or what to use, I still am left with many noobi blanks on this topic.
1. Rooting, what exactly are the benefits and what will be altered if I decide to root my device?
2. Is it worth it to root my phone? What's the major benefits and new things I will be able to do? And are there any problems or dangers I need to be aware of? (I've been using it for almost a year without doing so) Also, is there a way I could backup my current files and data and then place it back on the rooted device?
3. I've read about ways of rooting in which the kernel will be altered and about some in which it won't even be touched. So, what is the, let me put it bluntly, 'best' rooting technique/way to go with?
Thank you for any help possible on this topic!
Read the Stickies and thread FAQ's first!
Here's two ;
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11)
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
Should get you started
UpInTheAir said:
Read the Stickies and thread FAQ's first!
Here's two ;
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11)
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
Should get you started
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Wow I can't believe I've missed these two! Will read them right away!
Thank you for the quick help!
Any other help and opinions/experiences are still greatly appreciated!
If you don't know why or don't even have an app that requires root then its not needed at all .
jje
JJEgan said:
If you don't know why or don't even have an app that requires root then its not needed at all .
jje
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Well that was one of my many blanks. I know many friends who rooted their phones, but not for what exactly besides having different themes or the 'toiletpaper' scrolling in the menue section.
What kind of apps require rooting then?
I do want to start 'playing' around with my phone a bit more to use it to it's full potential, including overclocking for instance.
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Well that was one of my many blanks. I know many friends who rooted their phones, but not for what exactly besides having different themes or the 'toiletpaper' scrolling in the menue section.
What kind of apps require rooting then?
I do want to start 'playing' around with my phone a bit more to use it to it's full potential, including overclocking for instance.
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No shame in asking this question. Before I rooted my phone I spent a few weeks lurking on this forum, and constantly asking a friend with a 'droid phone about what is it - eventually the true power comes to you when you root and see for yourself. But one of the rooting "landmarks" are
- backing and restoring your applications via Titanium Backup
- Undervolting/Underclocking or overclocking and tweaking your phone (therefore gaining some more battery life/performance)
- use of various plugins such as Chainfire3D + CF.Lumen (you can buy&play games not initially intended for S2 and improve your night time use with the latter)
- many more cool things that you will find out for yourself
hope it gave you a little insight about the power you unleash.
AJ.Rockwell said:
No shame in asking this question. Before I rooted my phone I spent a few weeks lurking on this forum, and constantly asking a friend with a 'droid phone about what is it - eventually the true power comes to you when you root and see for yourself. But one of the rooting "landmarks" are
- backing and restoring your applications via Titanium Backup
- Undervolting/Underclocking or overclocking and tweaking your phone (therefore gaining some more battery life/performance)
- use of various plugins such as Chainfire3D + CF.Lumen (you can buy&play games not initially intended for S2 and improve your night time use with the latter)
- many more cool things that you will find out for yourself
hope it gave you a little insight about the power you unleash.
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Thanks for the quick insight and info!
-So is there actually no way in the current unrooted state to do these backups? I've been looking around for quite a while now for backing up my phone's content. Besides Kies that doesn't even cover everything I've come up empty. And how I could back up my conversations for instance (if that is even possible), but I haven't found anything on that matter.
- This is one of the aspects I was most interested in, at first of course only for the overclocking aspect, but then I read about the battery saving as well. Is there an easy way to switch back and forth between running the phone overclocked and underclocked?
Yep it indeed did!
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Thanks for the quick insight and info!
-So is there actually no way in the current unrooted state to do these backups? I've been looking around for quite a while now for backing up my phone's content. Besides Kies that doesn't even cover everything I've come up empty.
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No, you cannot back up app data without root.
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And how I could back up my conversations for instance (if that is even possible), but I haven't found anything on that matter.
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If by conversations you mean your SMS, you CAN back up and restore SMS withOUT root using one of several apps. I use SMS Backup+; it backs SMS and MMS messages to your GMail account, and can restore SMS. It cannot restore MMS as of yet though.
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- This is one of the aspects I was most interested in, at first of course only for the overclocking aspect, but then I read about the battery saving as well. Is there an easy way to switch back and forth between running the phone overclocked and underclocked?
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You can use SetCPU to create profiles based on what state the phone is in, such as screen on/off.
It looks more and more like I will root my phone right away as soon as I get the chance to sit down and do it!!
Thanks for clarifying those questions!
Yes I did mean my SMS and MMS conversations. Downloading that app right away
That sounds like an app I will definitely get then as soon as I get my phone rooted!
One last question for you though, do you happen to know what the 'dangers' are regarding phone/battery life when constantly switching CPU profiles?
Mr__KJ said:
It looks more and more like I will root my phone right away as soon as I get the chance to sit down and do it!!
Thanks for clarifying those questions!
Yes I did mean my SMS and MMS conversations. Downloading that app right away
That sounds like an app I will definitely get then as soon as I get my phone rooted!
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Um, I said you DON'T need root for that app (SMS Backup+)....? Or were you talking about SetCPU? (which you DO need root)
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One last question for you though, do you happen to know what the 'dangers' str regarding phone/battery life when constantly switching CPU profiles?
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There's always a danger when creating CPU profiles. Especially if you mess with the voltages assigned to each frequency. Just make sure you back your phone up before you mess with that stuff, so you have something to fall back to in case your tweaking causes the phone to not boot properly.
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Um, I said you DON'T need root for that app (SMS Backup+)....? Or were you talking about SetCPU? (which you DO need root)
There's always a danger when creating CPU profiles. Especially if you mess with the voltages assigned to each frequency. Just make sure you back your phone up before you mess with that stuff, so you have something to fall back to in case your tweaking causes the phone to not boot properly.
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I was talking about getting the SMS Backup + right away, which I already did.
And about the SetCPU as soon as I get my phone rooted.
Alright, yes backups are always an important thing to do. So we are talking more of software dangers though (not booting up correctly, stuff messing up or not launching, crashes etc.) rather than any hardware damage that could be caused?
Also, is there by any chance anyone who has a rooted Galaxy SII and can tell me some specific improvements about it compared to the unrooted version?
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Also, is there by any chance anyone who has a rooted Galaxy SII and can tell me some specific improvements about it compared to the unrooted version?
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Root won't improve anything on its own. Perhaps you should read some more about root and what it means before you go down this road.
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Root won't improve anything on its own. Perhaps you should read some more about root and what it means before you go down this road.
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Oh now that I reread that I see what you mean. I am aware that the rooting it's self will not improve/worsen the performance of the phone or anything else.
I more meant what kind of improvements can be made as soon as the device is rooted. Eg. the CPU tweaks and additional energy consumption differences and applications that can be run on the rooted device etc. and how these compare to the possibilites that one has with the stock phone.
Sorry for the confusion!
There are far too many variables involved to give you an idea of the things you're asking. These will depend on the kernel you use, how you use the phone, how you set it up, under/overclocking/volting, and a bunch of other things.
You're only going to find out by actually doing.
But in saying that, I would advise against anything until you understand exactly what it is you want to do & how to do it. Doing so could save at least a few days trying to figure out how to fix a soft bricked phone, or ending up with a 130-odd gram paperweight at worst.
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I more meant what kind of improvements can be made as soon as the device is rooted. Eg. the CPU tweaks and additional energy consumption differences and applications that can be run on the rooted device etc. and how these compare to the possibilites that one has with the stock phone.
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Hi, I've read this thread with interest, as when I got my sgs2 I didn't know that rooting was even possible! Another guy on my office got the same phone though, and asked if I was planning on rooting my phone. I guess I first did it with my eyes pretty well closed, but was lucky that everything went well.
One thing I would say is that I get much better battery life as there is endless scope for changing roms and kernels until you are happy. I've now upgraded to XXLPB on Simplistic Rom and am really happy. Great battery life and smooth performance, so no complaints. If I were you I would go for it, but make sure you do your research first!
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There are far too many variables involved to give you an idea of the things you're asking. These will depend on the kernel you use, how you use the phone, how you set it up, under/overclocking/volting, and a bunch of other things.
You're only going to find out by actually doing.
But in saying that, I would advise against anything until you understand exactly what it is you want to do & how to do it. Doing so could save at least a few days trying to figure out how to fix a soft bricked phone, or ending up with a 130-odd gram paperweight at worst.
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Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
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Hi, I've read this thread with interest, as when I got my sgs2 I didn't know that rooting was even possible! Another guy on my office got the same phone though, and asked if I was planning on rooting my phone. I guess I first did it with my eyes pretty well closed, but was lucky that everything went well.
One thing I would say is that I get much better battery life as there is endless scope for changing roms and kernels until you are happy. I've now upgraded to XXLPB on Simplistic Rom and am really happy. Great battery life and smooth performance, so no complaints. If I were you I would go for it, but make sure you do your research first!
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You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
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Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
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Give this a try for all the links need to root and the process - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488496
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
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Hey good luck and have fun
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that is my question? This may be the first device I'm not in a rush to root With no cwm to do nandroid backups, or install any custom roms. At least I dont think cwm is available yet. What other benefits does rooting have right now? Does it increase battery life? Doubt it.
SysAdmNj said:
that is my question? This may be the first device I'm not in a rush to root With no cwm to do nandroid backups, or install any custom roms. At least I dont think cwm is available yet. What other benefits does rooting have right now? Does it increase battery life? Doubt it.
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I did it to use Titanium to restore my apps. And to freeze uninstall bloat like tethering manager. My kids need internet on their crApple ipods when we're away from wifi.
Routing brings a lot of benefits and only one con: you void the warranty.
Basically the freedom root brings is unlimited:
You can fully customize your device to your liking. That includes boot animation, icons, status bar etc. it allows you to uninstall any app (even system apps) so it boosts up your battery and performance of the device.
But with great power comes great reasonability so you gotta be careful not to mess up your device.
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Mostly right now it's just for overclocking to compensate for some the lag a lot of users are seeing as well as enable root applications such as Root Explorer to remove system apps as well as Chainfire 3d. Plus, it's just pushing the community forward (at a rapid pace I might add). You've gotta have a root available or else there's no reason for CWM.
In addition, it's just supporting the community. Da_G worked incredibly hard and was simply amazing at making the root process available so quick. Whether you root or not is up to you and I'm not saying you can only support the community by rooting, but we should all show the devs respect and thanks for the great work they are already doing.
Ok I dont need to do that at the moment. I'm trying not to restore all my apps as they were way too many and most I didnt even use. I'm trying to start fresh with apps and only install the ones I use one by one to preserve battery life. Tethering, no need yet.
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Routing brings a lot of benefits and only one con: you void the warranty.
Basically the freedom root brings is unlimited:
You can fully customize your device to your liking. That includes boot animation, icons, status bar etc. it allows you to uninstall any app (even system apps) so it boosts up your battery and performance of the device.
But with great power comes great reasonability so you gotta be careful not to mess up your device.
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Mostly right now it's just for overclocking to compensate for some the lag a lot of users are seeing as well as enable root applications such as Root Explorer to remove system apps as well as Chainfire 3d. Plus, it's just pushing the community forward (at a rapid pace I might add). You've gotta have a root available or else there's no reason for CWM.
In addition, it's just supporting the community. Da_G worked incredibly hard and was simply amazing at making the root process available so quick. Whether you root or not is up to you and I'm not saying you can only support the community by rooting, but we should all show the devs respect and thanks for the great work they are already doing.
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I hear you guys, but at the moment I'm enjoying the device with no need to root. I dont experience this lag others complain about. Its really working rather nice for me. I'm familiar with rooting and as the dev threads start getting busier and have more things to try I will root but as for right now I just dont see the need and thats weird for me. I usually root right away device out the box before anything.
Only thing that may get to me in the long run is the inconsistent screen issues we all are facing, and battery life as time goes on.
I don't think anyone here is trying to convince you to root. Do it or not, doesn't impact any one of us.
Certain things I cannot easily live without -- Tethering being one of them so it was a no brainer for me. Plus I have been tracking data usage and you would be amazed at how many AT&T pre-installed bloatware apps just use data randomly. These apps I might ad I have never so much as opened one time, so being able to freeze them is also one of the main reasons I rooted.
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Certain things I cannot easily live without -- Tethering being one of them so it was a no brainer for me. Plus I have been tracking data usage and you would be amazed at how many AT&T pre-installed bloatware apps just use data randomly. These apps I might ad I have never so much as opened one time, so being able to freeze them is also one of the main reasons I rooted.
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How exactly do you do this? Track these apps and get precise data usage? And this may be a reason to root and freeze.
adblock .
I rooted to use TiBu to restore my apps and freeze a bunch of bloatware. I've notice that it seems to move a lot faster now without all the crap bogging it down.
That could just be the placebo effect though
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I rooted to use TiBu to restore my apps and freeze a bunch of bloatware. I've notice that it seems to move a lot faster now without all the crap bogging it down.
That could just be the placebo effect though
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I actually like that TiBu can freeze apps but what I dont like is that when I've tried to reinstall apps before that you have to install each one, one by one. It'll keep popping up with the option to install each one, and I'm talking about 100+ apps. Kind of a PIA. Is this because its the free version or is it the same with the paid version?
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I actually like that TiBu can freeze apps but what I dont like is that when I've tried to reinstall apps before that you have to install each one, one by one. It'll keep popping up with the option to install each one, and I'm talking about 100+ apps. Kind of a PIA. Is this because its the free version or is it the same with the paid version?
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If you pony up and pay for it, you don't have to do this one by one. Purchasing TiBu Pro will be the best investment you can make for your phone. Seriously.
MyBackup Root is FREE and it backs up and restores apps one-click fast with no problems and it's FREE.
Did I mention it's FREE?
The names showing up in the Developer Forum are unbelievable!! So many good things to come with this phone. You are going to root eventually, why not enjoy the benefits now
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If you pony up and pay for it, you don't have to do this one by one. Purchasing TiBu Pro will be the best investment you can make for your phone. Seriously.
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I'm buying tonight.
orangekid said:
MyBackup Root is FREE and it backs up and restores apps one-click fast with no problems and it's FREE.
Did I mention it's FREE?
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Yes but it doesnt freeze pesky apps.
jpeg42 said:
The names showing up in the Developer Forum are unbelievable!! So many good things to come with this phone. You are going to root eventually, why not enjoy the benefits now
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I'm rooting tonight
-uninstalling bloat
-ad blocker
-increasing sd cache size to 4mb
-overclocking
-wifi tethering
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Maroon Mushroom said:
-uninstalling bloat
-ad blocker
-increasing sd cache size to 4mb
-overclocking
-wifi tethering
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What program do we need to use to increase the sd cache size?
I want to know the same, I think its sd booster.
And not sure why alot of people like ad blocker. I dont find the ads bothering much. Unless you guys are talking about pop ups which I've yet to experience.
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What program do we need to use to increase the sd cache size?
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Hey Maroon Mushroom, if you are browsing, can you please answer? Or anyone else have an answer? Thanks!!
Hi,
I've had android devices for years and always kept them locked and stocked.
I've not got an Nexus 10 and was wondering is it actually worth rooting the thing and loading a custom rom?
Will I actually gain anything except be able to change where the home button is?
All thoughts welcome!
THanks in Advance.
If nothing else I would root it. That gives you the option of using programs like Titanium Backup to backup apps and install a custom recovery and have the ability to back up your whole device.
As far as custom ROMS go that's a personal choice. Right now there are not allot out due to the newness of the device, but I'm sure that will change very quickly as Devs stat getting it.
I would root to gain access to titanium back up and ad blockers but beside that there aren't that many great custom roms out there. Stock doesn't have bloatware or any common pitfalls of stock.
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If you are tech savvy, I would highly suggest all 3. You can improve things like battery life by undervolting the CPU and GPU, changing to more conservative governors, and having applications automatically shut off your wifi when your tablet turns off (can't remember if you can do that one without root).
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Yeah, i agree with above opinion. You need to learn things before rooting your tablet. You can check out many rooting videos on YouTube channel to learn about that more easily. Besides, many Google Play apps are free to play.
Check out qbking77 videos on youtube and you will get a how to on the rooting process
Ad blocking is one of the top ten reasons to own any Android device. Root is a vital part of the XDA experience.
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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KestrelX said:
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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So true, its fun and very addictive flashing different stuff on your device. You can also apply themes after rooting
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I was on the fence until i realized the advantages in battery life. I went ahead and did it and havent looked back yet. :good:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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There is an app so you can use OTG without having root, called nexus media importer. Though you have to buy it.
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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EvoYas said:
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
I rooted mine to isse adblock and titanim backup, I will not be flashing another ROM in a good while, I want OTA and the tablet runs really well on stock
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Pharmbob said:
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
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Not the only thing you could do with PA - I have this flashed and LOVE it! this might be more of a personal thing but the ability to change your navbar color (battery, time, soft keys) per app is amazing! Again to each their own but I like this ROM on this tablet - I use the CM10 Nightlies on my phone as it suits it better.
To answer the OP - read as much as you can before you decide to Root and Flash - I believe all three is a must but I like to customize things.
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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Well now that you have root and a custom recovery you should try all the candy in this forum
Go to the nexus 10 rom section and try some roms. There are roms that change a whole lot like ParanoidAndroid and there are roms with more subtle changes (like mine).
Keep in mind that flashing a new rom will wipe anything on your tablet but its ok because you can make nandroid (complete) backups of your present state using the recovery.
Also i recommend you to try apps like GMD gesture control. It enables you to define custom gestures for nearly everything. (Comparable tp those on the ipad but more customizable)
Hello all,
Starting a thread to see if there is out there in XDA who happened to pick up the Ellipsis 8 yesterday for Black Friday?
I bought my Mom a smartphone finally being she was stuck with old tech and never owned a smart phone so I got her the Sony Xperia Z3v. She is overly excited.
Anyways, they gave us for free Quanta Ellipsis 8 QTAQZ3, and I have attempted the following to get root access;
1) Kingo Root
2) TowelRoot
3) Framaroot 1.9.3
Neither one of these options provided root. Upon digging up threads on XDA, I found that the older Ellipsis 7 was able to get rooted with both Kingo Root and Framaroot.
I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
JAWheat411 said:
I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
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Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
Yep I got 2 of them yesterday looking forward to seeing someone figure out how to root them.
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I tried all three listed above as well with no success. I would be eternally greatful for anyone who can help with rooting this device since Verizon was so keen on giving them out like candy on Black Friday.
I picked one up, havent really looked for any methods. Its been a pretty good device thus far.
I think what people need to look for in the software is some bugs like how every other root method works... i know My Verizon requests su when its first run, but anyways, this would probably be the best place to look.
Raiden8816 said:
Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
Hopefully Someone Gets It!
I am hoping that one of our amazing Devs here on XDA will figure this out. I want root so I can get the full performance out of Tasker. Plus a few other things like a full debloat and such. I would have no problem making a donation to the Dev who figures this out lol.
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mike253 said:
Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
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Are you referring to the Galaxy Tabs? If so I 100% feel you. I don't understand how their phones are so gooood (IMO LOL), But they fail so hard on there tablets. Im beyond done with those until they step it up...ALOT lol.
Come on people, no news is not good news. I can't do anymore digging into this until I am off this weekend.
Any updates?
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Any updates?
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Until enough people get this tablet, there won't be any incentive to develop for it...
I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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Well, disabling is as good as deleting. Deleting them saves a small amount of space, a few MB... You have an SD slot, add more storage cheaply...
It is a basic tablet. I would never have bought such a tablet, but for free, what the hell, makes a nice news reader and stuff when lying in bed.
When I want a real tablet I do have a Dell Venue 11 Pro that works really well.
I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
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Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
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I was about to respond to the other member but you made all the points I had to make haha. I 100% agree. I need root on this thing so I can run TB, Xposed, AD Away, Root Explorer, Debloat FULLY and not just disable, and a plethora of other things root is good for. Bottom line is it doesn't matter what the reason, ALL Android devices are better with root!