This is off topic but please do this and share it with as many people as you can.
http://americancensorship.org/
Today, Congress holds hearings on the first American Internet censorship system.
This bill can pass. If it does the Internet and free speech will never be the same.
Join all of us to stop this bill.
Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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right on dude...your totally right
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Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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There changed it. Lol sorry wasn't really thinking...
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Signed. This internet censorship **** scared the hell out of me.
Did it last night. I saw that unrevoked tweeted it last night.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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There changed it. Lol sorry wasn't really thinking...
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No no, don't be sorry buddy. You were just trying to be polite. I didn't mean to make my reply sound negative. I was trying to publicly show my support for the petition and your post. I'm the one that is sorry.
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Signed. This internet censorship **** scared the hell out of me.
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You and me both, buddy. This is so incredibly scary.
This just goes to show how our rights are being stripped away one at a time with bills such as these . Like gas prices example I used in another thread , slowly alittle bit , piece by piece they are removed and we accept it and move on . Knowledge shouldn't be restricted or controlled in any fashion . SIGNED
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Dude, change your title, this is not at all irrelevant or off topic. Every member of xda that enjoys the freedom to obtain information, exchange information, and use information freely needs to know about the things our governments, plural, are trying to censor. Yes you can find information on the internet on how to build a bomb, but that same information can be used for little Johnny and his science project. The internet is what it is today because the networks that makeup the internet self manage and police themselves.
I have obtained education from my university to know how to synthesize drugs, build bombs, etc. that information also has the power to help or save lives. Should my education be censored too, because I know how to efficiently kill people???
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Dude, I love when you post stuff like this. Oh and hey.. supersize (or is it synthesize) me some drugs okay. Appreciate it.
signed with much pleasure! Good looking out OP
When did these petitions ever work? I can appreciate the effort, but you all realize it's not going to do jack ****. The site simply said "Thanks for sending the letter to your representative". Did it really send that? Where did it send it to?
I think most effective way would be to directly contact your representative's offices and express your concerns, instead of generating an automated email with identical text.
I just hope that we have enough people in congress with more than one functional brain cell to see that this bill is a pure nightmare and wreak all kinds of havoc. And I am sure it will be veto'd by Obama. But still, letting your representative know about it directly (without computer-generated letter) should be something that everyone does.
You can start here to get contact information: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Directly contacted one of the reps in my area (Denver, Mike Coffman for anyone who questions me) as well as signed the petition.
Less government = more freedom. **** anything that would hinder my ability to know less than I should.
empiire said:
Directly contacted one of the reps in my area (Denver, Mike Coffman for anyone who questions me) as well as signed the petition.
Less government = more freedom. **** anything that would hinder my ability to know less than I should.
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The news does just that!
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The news does just that!
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Yes it does! Media outlets seem to hold the most power, with what they can do/manipulate people into believing though.
Bump
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The petition is technically already worthless, because it was already voted on, I can't find any news on it. Anyone?
However, there is still the possibly of a veto. The bill had 3/24 democrat so it was mostly a republican bill.
look like no vote yet..
but now google voicing their opinion
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ship-google-twitter-facebook-article-1.979020
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look like no vote yet..
but now google voicing their opinion
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ship-google-twitter-facebook-article-1.979020
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Google was voicing their opinion even in hearing. But what sucks is that out of 6 parties invited to the hearing, only 1 opposed the bill. Basically, bill sponsors paraded people whom they knew would support it, and threw in Google to make it look more kosher.
Facebook and twitter from what i have read are against it
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Guys, theres a movement in the community to get rid of this site which sells access to pirated paid apps. Now, this isnt to promote the site, this is to get rid of it. Please go here and sign the petition. All the information is there. Support app developers who work hard to make our phones better by helping to get rid of these pirates.
http://bit.ly/bkKwaZ
Support your community!
Also, if you follow this link: http://twitter.com/Mini_Lee/status/20682622042 it will take you to the tweet i put out with the petition link directly in it. So if you're one of those people with thousands of followers on twitter, send it out!
Done, and tweeting it.
Signed - thank you to whoever started this petition!
Been following this on Twitter today. Retweeted protests, and just signed this. I'll be honest, I pirate a lot of stuff, but I wouldn't pirate from a hard working Android dev. If pirating Android apps grew, devs might be less inclined to develop good apps for Android.
OP updated with link to RT'able tweet link.
Kusotare, what do you intend to do with the results of the petition?
I checked, their domain is registered through GoDaddy and hidden by DomainsByProxy. I sent an e-mail to DomainsByProxy to see whether they actually respond to information about illegal activity. It has been my experience that such complaints to GoDaddy will go unanswered but e-mail is cheap so I hit them up too.
But in all honesty, this will be a minor hiccup, if it gets them taken down at all. The overall IP block is owned by Worldstream out of the Netherlands (according to the RIPE branch of IANA), although some tools report the actual location as Portugal. If you run a reverse IP lookup (try a good one like YouGetSignal), the web server at the same IP is also host to a bunch of Iranian spam and piracy blogs under the vatanblog.com domain, so my guess is whomever owns the server (which isn't going to be the same as those running the network where the IP block is managed) isn't going to be too worried about the results of a petition.
But I suppose it can't hurt to hit up Worldstream, so I've e-mailed them as well.
P.S. Phromik, speaking as a software developer who has been victimized by piracy, you're a hypocritical tool.
^ really no need for that last part, though I understand why you would say it.
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^ really no need for that last part, though I understand why you would say it.
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Really no need for him to roll in here and brag about his piracy, is there?
Fighting piracy is and will always be a losing battle, but when people are actually out there profiting from other people's hard work something needs to be done.
Signed and tweeted and facebooked. I will also follow suit and send emails to godaddy and Domainsbyproxy.
Except he's not bragging... he's being honest.
srqt said:
Fighting piracy is and will always be a losing battle, but when people are actually out there profiting from other people's hard work something needs to be done.
Signed and tweeted and facebooked. I will also follow suit and send emails to godaddy and Domainsbyproxy.
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GoDaddy are the domain registrant. The actual website is hosted on a dedicated server provided by worldstream.nl so you want to be contacting [email protected] as well as the Dutch anti-piracy outfit BREIN at [email protected]
It's interesting to note that the same dedicated server is being used to host several other warez sites including some pornography forums. I'm pretty sure neither the server provider or BREIN would be happy about these.
It's interesting to note that within the last 12 hours androidplayground has been taken offline. However I suspect this was done by the owner rather than any takedown notice. He has already set his twitter account to private and one of the last tweets he sent was about having a new server ready.
To Bad google isn't jumping on this. I mean you see his lame comment on nearly every app that comes out in the market.
What confuses me is why would somebody send him money to become a member knowing he/she is a thief in the first place.
The results of the petition will be sent to the domain registrar, the host and paypal in a three way attack. If all goes well, they'll lose their domain, hosting and ability to charge people through paypal simultaneously. I have already emailed all three of the companies to let them know about the petition.
So yes, while it may be a losing battle in the long run to fight piracy, at least we can do what we can. Signing a petition or firing off an email takes the same amount of time it does to write a post here, so why not help out?
Response from Worldstream:
Hi,
The website has been taken down earlier today.
Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
Dirk Vromans
Technical Engineer
Worldstream C.V.
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Although from one of the earlier posts it sounds like the site owner was already planning to move it anyway -- which is what I was getting at earlier. The best you can hope for is to just go chasing him around endlessly.
I saw the same crap over and over in the Palm Treo software world...
The new licensing system might help. =]
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...If pirating Android apps grew, devs might be less inclined to develop good apps for Android.
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Whatever....
Without defending what I consider to be a low-life, who spams every review on the Market, most pirates wouldn't really buy most products they steal, just as most people don't normally pirate stuff they genuinely want and like.
There are a ton of pirate sources for the iPhone, yet good developers do pretty well in the App store.
The only developers whining are the ones who have a crappy product and blame the nebulous evil of "piracy" for their lack of success.
This is outrageous!! Piracy should be free.
I mean that completely tongue-in-cheek, as I spend a LOT of money on android software. I admit I don't hate piracy in general, as a sort of try-before-you-buy system, but charging money for stolen goods is evil. These people are scum.
Former AndroidPlayground.net user
I used to use this site because I just assumed that they had an agreement with the developers. I couldn't even imagine the audacity it would take to charge people for pirated software.
One thing I do wonder, why do Android apps cost more than iPhone apps? This might be part of the reason people feel like they are being ripped off by the android developers and say, "screw you then".
NOT trying to justify it, but it is something to consider.
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One thing I do wonder, why do Android apps cost more than iPhone apps? This might be part of the reason people feel like they are being ripped off by the android developers and say, "screw you then".
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I'm just guessing, but so far all data indicates that iPhone users seem to be significantly more willing to pay for apps. I'm hoping this changes as the Android becomes more mainstream.
Hey guys, we did a great job the first time around (thanks ckoadyin!!!) But sources say this could be voted on as early as next week! http://americancensorship.org/ for more info and to sign the petition again! I believe if you provide information to where you live when signing that it will automatically send email to your local congressmen, but on top of that we want as many emails and calls as possible. Worst case scenario for a filibuster to be initiated. We have a little more time this time around, so sign, call, spread the word to every social network possible, and to every forum here on xda. I can't tell you how important this is, specially considering this is being advertised as an anti piracy measure (which is total crap!), it gives law makers and large corporations tons of power to censor the internet!
Thanks for reading guys, act fast, power to the people!
I'm surprised there hasn't been any reply to this, this is so scary. I don't want my freedom to obtain or distribute information taken away
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I'm surprised there hasn't been any reply to this, this is so scary. I don't want my freedom to obtain or distribute information taken away
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Is panda sad?
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Step 1) Wait for bill to pass
Step 2) Post illegal links all over government sites
Step 3) Win?
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Is panda sad?
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Panda so sad
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Step 1) Wait for bill to pass
Step 2) Post illegal links all over government sites
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you are full of win
does this mean google will be taken down because illegal links and information can be accessed through the search? hope not but i chuckle at the thought
Dude, the 3 major internet giants (Google, yahoo, Bing) are all AGAINST the bill, trust me, after a couple of friends and ke kinda compared the conditions of this bill to the bill of rights in the constitution alone, it would spit all over it! By shutting down Google, you shut down blogger (freedom of speech, press, religion, peaceful assembly cut) Google ads (pretty much all rights since Google Taylor's ads to what type of site u use), and by doing that, you will probably shutdown the android project, because all major funding for Google and its servers are gone! (Freedom of expression infringed) and various other things! This bill wouldn't stand a chance!!!!!!
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Dude, the 3 major internet giants (Google, yahoo, Bing) are all AGAINST the bill, trust me, after a couple of friends and ke kinda compared the conditions of this bill to the bill of rights in the constitution alone, it would spit all over it! By shutting down Google, you shut down blogger (freedom of speech, press, religion, peaceful assembly cut) Google ads (pretty much all rights since Google Taylor's ads to what type of site u use), and by doing that, you will probably shutdown the android project, because all major funding for Google and its servers are gone! (Freedom of expression infringed) and various other things! This bill wouldn't stand a chance!!!!!!
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Although the bill won't pass, here's a more accurate depiction:
1 - They shut down thepiratebay and other torrent sites
2 - Reddit, 4chan, etc. get extremely angry
3 - they shut down 4chan
4 - users of 4chan hack government websites, start riots, god knows what they are capable of...
But the SOPA bill is probably there to make the Protect-IP thing sound reasonable even though it is still crazy.
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Although the bill won't pass, here's a more accurate depiction:
1 - They shut down thepiratebay and other torrent sites
2 - Reddit, 4chan, etc. get extremely angry
3 - they shut down 4chan
4 - users of 4chan hack government websites, start riots, god knows what they are potential of...
But the SOPA bill is probably there to make the Protect-IP thing sound reasonable even though it is still crazy.
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I think torrent sites suck anyway.! Lol
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Sexual Harassment Panda
ssojyeti2 said:
Sexual Harassment Panda
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I'm strangely aroused.
While there is opposition from large companies there is also major support from large companies too. There are over 30 senators just sponsoring the damn thing, and many more supporting it. So you will have to excuse my pessimism, I believe it has a very good chance of passing despite huge opposition from the masses. The companies that are supporting the bill are dumping a lot of money into the pockets of the very senators voting to pass it, therefore it really doesn't matter that it is unpopular.
We have to send the message that if you vote in support you will be trading your political career for it. The only way we do that is by sending emails and calling BEFORE the vote.
So please sign the petition again! If possible call your state representatives too, but at very least sign the petition!!
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Step 1) Wait for bill to pass
Step 2) Post illegal links all over government sites
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Collect underpants?
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http://americancensorship.org/
sign up to call your senator people and leave them a message saying you oppose this bill!!!
do it again they will connect you with your senator! on the spot
ckoadiyn said:
http://americancensorship.org/
sign up to call your senator people and leave them a message saying you oppose this bill!!!
do it again they will connect you with your senator! on the spot
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ahhhhh sweet ck! Thanks for the info, there is no excuse now, half the work is done for you. Let's get on this people. There are two bills we have to kill! SOPA and that internet IP BS.
this is the most ridiculous bill iv ever seen in my life, just the idea of it stomps on our freedom =\
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this is the most ridiculous bill iv ever seen in my life, just the idea of it stomps on our freedom =\
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Thanks for your reply. I have to agree, and it is a potentially scary thought. It is written, and so is the protect IP bill, under the guise that it combats piracy. Except it gives so much power to large companies and the government that it would not be impossible to censor unrelated material! I think Americans like their freedom to obtain information via internet like they like their second amendment rights, which is deal with the consequences of not having that right controlled, rather than lose the freedom altogether. I think it is the responsibility of individual companies to protect their intellectual property themselves, not rely on the government to do it, and in the mean time censor information we have access to.
Am I right?
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Thanks for your reply. I have to agree, and it is a potentially scary thought. It is written, and so is the protect IP bill, under the guise that it combats piracy. Except it gives so much power to large companies and the government that it would not be impossible to censor unrelated material! I think Americans like their freedom to obtain information via internet like they like their second amendment rights, which is deal with the consequences of not having that right controlled, rather than lose the freedom altogether. I think it is the responsibility of individual companies to protect their intellectual property themselves, not rely on the government to do it, and in the mean time censor information we have access to.
Am I right?
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Yep I agree
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I like hitting the thank button just for agreeing with me, lol!
It is absolutely crazy right now. In reality it has been this way for the last 150 years, but the media is focusing so much on the same topic right now it appears as if this crap has just started. With large corporations like general electric not paying taxes and receiving a 3.2 billion dollar tax credit while the lower and middle class get raped with taxes, over regulation on the wrong things, this ciq privacy SNAFU, laws being enacted taking away even our most basic rights....
I mean you can't even throw a stone in any direction and not hit a topic in the news where we actually have real freedom, aren't getting stolen from and cheated by large business and government, ad infinitum! Bah!
Lol so true panda so true n so sad
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MOD EDIT: link removed
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In testing stages now, but released credits to Evil_Devnull
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I tried and still doesn't work yet...
My phone doesn't even boot with the file in the root of the SD card...
Holyrolla said:
My phone doesn't even boot with the file in the root of the SD card...
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You are supposed to boot into fastboot while sd card is removed and install sd card while in hboot i'm assuming. Either way It doesnt seem to be working for others either.
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That file is the build.prop with a different name. All it does is tell the phone that there is a smart_io.crd file, but it doesn't have the right information on it. You could name anything smart_io.crd and you'll get the same results.
No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
I don't mean to show any disrespect, nor get involved in politics, but is there a root somewhere for hboot 1.5 that's freely available?
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No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
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Well by that logic, no apps can be linked to unless they're free. Unless the apk's are posted on XDA. Which is stealing....
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No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
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I get that he was banned for stuff but linking to the "think tank forum section" where they are actually working on the s-off process and doing so for free shouldn't be an issue really. no?
Or is it the fact he provides stuff for charge on a completely different and unrelated section of his site that can be done for free?
regardless seems hes messing with the smart_io.zip thing that the devs here rattled around for a long time before we got s-off. So far doesn't look like much more than a bunch of trial going on and somewhat familiar to what it looked like here to start with too.
How does one boot the phone and then be able to get the sd card in? the battery needs to be out for the sd switch?
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No linking to his website. He's been banned from xda and we won't allow linking to websites where devs charge for work freely obtainable on xda.
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To appease your beef with a dev, I will change the link in my sig. Now I understand why he talks about you like he does. You could have asked me to remove the link rather than just helping yourself.
Not taking sides, honestly I could give a **** less what your beef with him is about.
Edit: Also, Before you go wrongly accusing people, you should have read some of the website.
Code:
We don't want any, at all, not one [email protected]#$ing cent!
No donations!
No annoying ads!
No Sales!
No Pride!
No Trolls!
Nothing like that here, this is a brain storming forum because
I'm tired.
Team Evil is tired.
And
Every vigor and 3d user is fricking tired of this lock.
We don't do this for money or rep, we do it as a hobby and its turning into a job.
Trolls will be banned.
No pissing in the creative juices of this think tank.
Nuff said. If you want to bxtch and moan do it in that forum.
Thanks
Devnull
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I support devnull for trying to help us out. He has made no remark as per charging for this. Until he does I think removing the link was unpreductive to our cause.
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To appease your beef with a dev, I will change the link in my sig. Now I understand why he talks about you like he does. You could have asked me to remove the link rather than just helping yourself.
Not taking sides, honestly I could give a **** less what your beef with him is about.
Edit: Also, Before you go wrongly accusing people, you should have read some of the website.
Code:
We don't want any, at all, not one [email protected]#$ing cent!
No donations!
No annoying ads!
No Sales!
No Pride!
No Trolls!
Nothing like that here, this is a brain storming forum because
I'm tired.
Team Evil is tired.
And
Every vigor and 3d user is fricking tired of this lock.
We don't do this for money or rep, we do it as a hobby and its turning into a job.
Trolls will be banned.
No pissing in the creative juices of this think tank.
Nuff said. If you want to bxtch and moan do it in that forum.
Thanks
Devnull
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Right on. Stop being a **** scotsman, you and I both know you deleted the link because of the beef you have with him.
Take your relationship with. Him to the emails, just do your duty and moderate, don't censor.
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Before you all say anymore, please try getting your facts straight.
He is still charging $10 for downloading his Shift root kit...which can be done free of charge on xda using the same method, just as he was doing before he was banned.
I never abuse my moderator position in order to "fight my personal battles", so suggesting it is a waste of time.
If you still think I'm being a ****, go cry to the admin.
ok, back to business
So does this tool work, or not?
And where do I find this tool now that the link is gone?? (Mod, you have done a disservice here, unless that tool is already available on XDA. And if it is, where exactly is it?)
It doesn't appear to work, atm. Follow @evil_devnull on twitter or check his tweets at www.twitter.com/evil_devnull
@ scotsman, so even if he isn't requiring money for THIS project, nor on THAT site, you're going to stifle the news of his work by deleting links to THIS project at THAT site even though the issue is with another project altogether? Seems to me you should be blocking THOSE links that lead to the specific objectionable content, as we members clearly want to share news of THIS project and THAT site. Because there is NO current hboot 1.5 root anywhere free, or otherwise. I'm all for maintaining principles, but there is nothing against your stated principles on THAT site. So please stop blocking THIS news from spreading until there's something objectionable here. Otherwise it's called censorship, not protecting principles. You're blocking links just because they are associated with him and for no other reason.
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blauciel said:
It doesn't appear to work, atm. Follow @evil_devnull on twitter or check his tweets at www.twitter.com/evil_devnull
@ scotsman, so even if he isn't requiring money for THIS project, nor on THAT site, you're going to stifle the news of his work by deleting links to THIS project at THAT site even though the issue is with another project altogether? Seems to me you should be blocking THOSE links that lead to the specific objectionable content, as we members clearly want to share news of THIS project and THAT site. Because there is NO current hboot 1.5 root anywhere free, or otherwise. I'm all for maintaining principles, but there is nothing against your stated principles on THAT site. So please stop blocking THIS news from spreading until there's something objectionable here. Otherwise it's called censorship, not protecting principles. You're blocking links just because they are associated with him and for no other reason.
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It is on "that" site...same domain...
You can follow him on Twittter, which has been posted, so it's not difficult for people to find.
As I said, feel free to complain higher up if it bothers you that much.
I do not have a Twitter account and do not intend to open one.
So what other site has the info available?
Mod, I suggest YOU ask the admin what to do, because this seems stupid. We need the info which you are suppressing.
How about Hboot.000012? please don't ignore our GSMers, really need to unlock + soff and start flashing.
In all fairness, the_scotsman is correct. Most of you that aren't familiar with the HTC EVO SHIFT rooting drama, don't know the full story behind why he was banned. It's easy to look at one side of the story then just ignore the rest, but probably not very wise. I'm sure plenty of you have read the information/stories on devnull's website, although perhaps you should trust in the moderator's decisions since there is a lot that happened that you guys don't know about.
Im watching the SOPA hearing live now... Mr. Scott is an idiot...
I mean seriously this is a train wreck no experts in the fields allowed most of these old men don't know how the internet works this is horrible.....here is the link to watch it live
http://mfile.akamai.com/65764/live/r...p=39655&prop=n
dont have access it tells me
Im sorry one sec ill pull up the main link...
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/mark_12152011.html
Here you go Goodlatte is my rep and i cant stand him...
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Im sorry one sec ill pull up the main link...
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/mark_12152011.html
Here you go Goodlatte is my rep and i cant stand him...
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thanks much
NP it's a shame that more people arn't interested in this. If the bill passes as is EVERYTHING will change on the internet for those of us here in the states, even here on XDA. For example one member here posts a illegal link and the mods miss it. BAM no more XDA for us here for days. Which hurts there revenue which is based on hits so less money plus legal fees. This is gonna hurt bad. And for those that say proxy. I'm talking about our economy and our freedom. This'll hurt businesses and ISP's which means things will change for US the end users dramatically.
Anonamoose said:
NP it's a shame that more people arn't interested in this. If the bill passes as is EVERYTHING will change on the internet for those of us here in the states, even here on XDA. For example one member here posts a illegal link and the mods miss it. BAM no more XDA for us here for days. Which hurts there revenue which is based on hits so less money plus legal fees. This is gonna hurt bad. And for those that say proxy. I'm talking about our economy and our freedom. This'll hurt businesses and ISP's which means things will change for US the end users dramatically.
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For context, under this bill a screenshot could be an illegal link.
xeper said:
For context, under this bill a screenshot could be an illegal link.
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Very true it could be.
Ah Mr Scott the voice of the people passing it. He's so in touch with this and us. [end sarcasm]. Wonder how much stuff he's getting from the MPAA for this one...
Mr Scott " We don't need to hear experts in this field to pass it " Oh god yeah we don't need informed decesions at all in Congress....
Looks like there will be 2 (non military) nets. The no cost one which won't be free but censored, and a paid one where all users will have to agree to open terms similar to our current one. More stratifying of society as we have known it. Cypher and methods to hide info will be abundant. Stuff will make the ja panese int ern et police look like boy scouts.
Proxies are currently not blind so who cares about them. They threw the guy in jail who ran the only true blind proxy anyway. Some MIT guy that built a system that the NSA couldn't trace packets through.
I think if this bill passes I'm just going to go back to snail mail and reading books. I'll sell the Evo 3D and buy some dumb phone that only makes phone calls.
This mixed with the bill that will allow the government to arrest and detain any American for as long as they like and even torture them and you have one seriously dangerous combination.
http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-detention-veto-defense-853/
I hate this bill, and what sucks is that we will still be censored if this doesn't pass. In fact, most likely the bill won't pass. However, some derp is going to propose something like Protect-IP which is less crazy (but still bat**** crazy) and that bill will be passed. And since the people that want it passed know ****ing nothing about the internet, it's even more of a slap in the face.
They should really just take the law, and keep it away from the internet.
I might be the only one out there but I really never thought that SOPA was that bad.
Stopping a domain from resolving to an IP is like sweeping dirt under a carpet.
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I might be the only one out there but I really never thought that SOPA was that bad.
Stopping a domain from resolving to an IP is like sweeping dirt under a carpet.
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Read up more on SOPA and you'll understand why.
ColdH33t said:
I might be the only one out there but I really never thought that SOPA was that bad.
Stopping a domain from resolving to an IP is like sweeping dirt under a carpet.
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So much larger than that. It gives the government and large companies the ability to decide what we can read, not just download, and pirate. Then the ability to arrest someone for using their first amendment right, under the guise it somehow obscurely fits under SOPA. The first amendment being trampled upon is a slippery slope.
So someone posts something on twitter that violates intellectual property rights, and the whole site is unresolvable. Same with you tube, Facebook, and xda. Its like using a nuclear bomb to kill a fly in your kitchen.
Go read SOPA more, if you still feel the same way then god help us all.
God I hope this doesn't pass or the protect ip bill...
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Reply that I received from my rep Roy Blunt:
Dear xxx,
Thank you for contacting me regarding S. 968, the Protect IP Act.
Intellectual property industries employ more than 19 million people, making it an integral part of our economy. Rogue websites dedicated to the sale and distribution of counterfeit goods and pirated content are a direct threat to these jobs and to entrepreneurs growing and building legitimate businesses online.
Businesses have lost $135 billion in revenue annually as a result of these rogue sites. Customers have also beenharmed by these sites; for example, online pharmacies that don't adhere to U.S. regulations have been reported to cause a rapid increase in prescription drug abuse.
Ia m a cosponsor of the Protect IP Act which would cut off foreign websites dedicated to counterfeiting and piracy that steal American jobs, hurt the economy, and harm customers. It would allow the JusticeDepartment to file a civil action against those who have registered or own a domain name linked to an infringing website. The bill does not allow the Justice Department to target domain names registeredby a U.S. entity.
Innovation is a cornerstone of our nation's economic growth. Proper intellectual property protections and incentivesensure that inventors develop products that benefit consumers. Without such incentives for innovators,we risk falling behind places like China and India.
Again, thank you for contacting me. I look forward to continuing our conversation on Facebook www.facebook.com/SenatorBlunt and Twitter www.twitter.com/RoyBlunt about the important issues facing Missouri and the country. I also encourage you to visit my website (blunt.senate.gov )to learn more about where I stand on the issues and sign-up for my e-newsletter.
Sincere regards,
Roy Blunt
United States Senator
Bs
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Reply that I received from my rep Roy Blunt:
I am a cosponsor of the Protect IP Act which would cut off foreign websites dedicated to counterfeiting and piracy that steal American jobs, hurt the economy, and harm customers. It would allow the JusticeDepartment to file a civil action against those who have registered or own a domain name linked to an infringing website. The bill does not allow the Justice Department to target domain names registeredby a U.S. entity.
Sincere regards,
Roy Blunt
United States Senator
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So they plan to secretly shut down all foreign websites in the US? Wow, what a bunch of idiots. Help our economy, but hurt the economies of others.
Where are LulzSec and Anonymous when you need them
atrix725 said:
Where are LulzSec and Anonymous when you need them
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Really. This government is just asking for a decentralized DNS architecture to be built by the people. Then they will really be screwed.
http://www.xda-developers.com/annou...8th-at-8am-you-can-help-bring-us-back-online/
Government doing too much
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http://www.xda-developers.com/annou...8th-at-8am-you-can-help-bring-us-back-online/
Government doing too much
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wikipedia might be going black too, I assume on the same day. They haven't committed yet though.
reddit is as well. Also several companies and some law makers have reversed tehir stance on SOPA. I hope we make more progress!!!!!
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reddit is as well. Also several companies and some law makers have reversed tehir stance on SOPA. I hope we make more progress!!!!!
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If only Facebook and Google would as well.. (well, google is in bed w/ these bastards but wishful thinking eh?)
Facebook and twitter going black would get some attention right ? heh...
Im in. there are a few other places I am a part of that are going dark on the 18th as well.
I find this whole blackout thing to be completely ridiculous.
I'm no fan of SOPA and I ditched GoDaddy on the few domains I own, but I find blackouts like this to be counterproductive.
I'm not fond at all of companies/websites intentionally and purposefully sabotaging their uptime and access. It serves to piss off their visitors like me. Most XDA visitors (and redditors etc.) already know about SOPA. A blackout serves no purpose.
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I find this whole blackout thing to be completely ridiculous.
I'm no fan of SOPA and I ditched GoDaddy on the few domains I own, but I find blackouts like this to be counterproductive.
I'm not fond at all of companies/websites intentionally and purposefully sabotaging their uptime and access. It serves to piss off their visitors like me. Most XDA visitors (and redditors etc.) already know about SOPA. A blackout serves no purpose.
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I feel quite the contrary. I believe it garners attention and action. It helps motivate the un-motivated to get their butts moving to sign the petitions and increase awareness. Grassroots momentum builds quickly.
Just sayin'
Internet pseudo-petitions do nothing. It's akin to 'liking' "I hate cancer!" on Facebook.
fyi.. here is an article that everyone can read.. click on the 2 links that go to google and facebook .. copy/paste the text.
If more ppl contact those 2 sites.. maybe they will listen/respond.
This isn't a petition per se, the point is to get people to personally call in and lodge formal complaints with the specific senators/representatives of your state and get your voices heard.
I believe that would be much more efficient than simply typing your name in a petition.
Android 17 said:
This isn't a petition per se, the point is to get people to personally call in and lodge formal complaints with the specific senators/representatives of your state and get your voices heard.
I believe that would be much more efficient than simply typing your name in a petition.
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this.
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