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I didn't see this elsewhere.
The French game publisher already sprinkled 99¢ allspice on its iOS and Amazon Appstore titles, plus a two-for-one deal on the Xperia Play, but soon it'll bring that volume-not-margin recipe to the Android Market too. Almost all of its paid titles will reportedly go for less than a dollar between December 26th and January 5th, so if you're about to click 'Buy' on a premium purchase like Asphalt 6: Adrenalin, 9mm or The Adventures of Tintin, then it might be worth relaxing your trigger finger. The notable exception is Modern Combat 3: Fallen Nation, which will apparently only be discounted for a single day sometime around New Year's Weekend -- though hopefully not while you're still preoccupied with running around in yesterday's clothes and hugging random strangers.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/28/gameloft-fends-off-winter-blues-with-dollar-sale-on-android-mark/
-Apple announce March 7 and release it on March 16
-Asus announce Transformer TF700t and Asus Transformer Pad Infinity 700 At CES January 10 and we still don't know the release date.
-By the time these products is release all hype will be gone,most of us will be looking elsewhere..
ANDROID MANUFACTURES when you announce a product release in a week or 2 weeks or don't announce it...
Thank you....
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dmoney94 said:
-Apple announce March 7 and release it on March 16
-Asus announce Transformer TF700t and Asus Transformer Pad Infinity 700 At CES January 10 and we still don't know the release date.
-By the time these products is release all hype will be gone,most of us will be looking elsewhere..
ANDROID MANUFACTURES when you announce a product release in a week or 2 weeks or don't announce it...
Thank you....
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You make a great point. Most people will by while still hyped about a product. Let the people buy the product, then let the hype die down after thousands of tablets have been sold, not before!
its because apple waits a whole year before announcing anything. then 2 weeks before they plan on releasing, they announce it. they give no hint of a new device throughout the whole year.
Android gives you a heads up of what's to come since so many different tablets to choose from. Apple has only 1 tablet so no need for a heads up earlier in the year. they let rumours build till the next year.
Apple set the stage for this a few years back when they pulled out of the MacWorld conference and started hosting their own events. That way, they 1) isolate their message and 2) establish an annual upgrade schedule for their products. This is brilliant in a few ways:
1. It creates a built-in base of customers anticipating the next, great Apple product and ready to upgrade. If they don't upgrade annually (say, from the iPad to the iPad 2), then they absolutely upgrade every other year. They offer just enough value to entice those biannual upgraders, and count on the hardcore fans to upgrade every year.
2. It gives the media a chance to plan their stories (i.e., prime the hype pump). Editors and reporters love things they can plan out, and they likely keep their slates clean the month of the next Apple event.
3. It allows them to build out their inventory before announcing, and then release almost immediately. Because of #1 and #2, they're virtually guaranteed to sell out of these initial inventory runs. There's always some wiggle room on when the event actually takes place, so any glitch in supply of a week or two (or three, or a month) can easily be dealt with just by moving the date a bit.
Android manufacturers, however, pretty much rely on CES to show off their best stuff, and CES hardly ever seems to correlate with their product cycles. If they DON'T show at CES, then they're left out of the biggest hype cycle of the year. But by showing at CES when their product cycles are months out, they lose the hype. And Android manufacturers aren't alone, either--consider that HP pretty much killed the TouchPad and Pre 3 by announcing in February (around CES) and not releasing until months later. The same was true for the original Pre, which won Best of Show at CES 2009 but then completely dropped off the radar by the time it actually shipped.
Who knows, maybe Android manufacturers will start synching their product cycles to CES. Or, they'll do like Samsung seems to be doing--holding off on showing their best stuff, like the Galaxy S III, until it's closer to shipping. I have a feeling that the SGSIII will be released a few weeks after it's announced. Same thing with the next-gen Samsung tablet.
But someone like ASUS could NEVER get the traction necessary. It's CES, or fade into oblivion.
wynand32 said:
Apple set the stage for this a few years back when they pulled out of the MacWorld conference and started hosting their own events. That way, they 1) isolate their message and 2) establish an annual upgrade schedule for their products. This is brilliant in a few ways:
1. It creates a built-in base of customers anticipating the next, great Apple product and ready to upgrade. If they don't upgrade annually (say, from the iPad to the iPad 2), then they absolutely upgrade every other year. They offer just enough value to entice those biannual upgraders, and count on the hardcore fans to upgrade every year.
2. It gives the media a chance to plan their stories (i.e., prime the hype pump). Editors and reporters love things they can plan out, and they likely keep their slates clean the month of the next Apple event.
3. It allows them to build out their inventory before announcing, and then release almost immediately. Because of #1 and #2, they're virtually guaranteed to sell out of these initial inventory runs. There's always some wiggle room on when the event actually takes place, so any glitch in supply of a week or two (or three, or a month) can easily be dealt with just by moving the date a bit.
Android manufacturers, however, pretty much rely on CES to show off their best stuff, and CES hardly ever seems to correlate with their product cycles. If they DON'T show at CES, then they're left out of the biggest hype cycle of the year. But by showing at CES when their product cycles are months out, they lose the hype. And Android manufacturers aren't alone, either--consider that HP pretty much killed the TouchPad and Pre 3 by announcing in February (around CES) and not releasing until months later. The same was true for the original Pre, which won Best of Show at CES 2009 but then completely dropped off the radar by the time it actually shipped.
Who knows, maybe Android manufacturers will start synching their product cycles to CES. Or, they'll do like Samsung seems to be doing--holding off on showing their best stuff, like the Galaxy S III, until it's closer to shipping. I have a feeling that the SGSIII will be released a few weeks after it's announced. Same thing with the next-gen Samsung tablet.
But someone like ASUS could NEVER get the traction necessary. It's CES, or fade into oblivion.
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This +1000 time over. It looks like Samsung are starting to do their own thing now trying to compete with Apple but for smaller operations like Asus (who appear to not even be able to keep up with demand when one of their products does get hype), it's pretty much CES or bust. Its not just Android manufacturers at CES either, PC manufacturers and the custom PC parts companies have to show of their wares there too and for most of them it doesn't match their release cycles. I had to wait months after seeing the Corsair 600T Special Edition case at CES until I could buy one in Australia, very frustrating but its what they have to do to get it out there.
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Yep. Apple really knows how to treat its customers.
My Apple Experience:
-iPad announced with official release date and all details.
-Available on website for preorder right away.
-They released a map a few days later showing the exact date they will be delivered for every city.
-They release the exact hour and stores where the iPad will be available on release date.
-My iPad arrives at the door on release date.
Prime Experience
-Announced in friggin October or something.
-"Release date gonna be November"
-Delayed
-Release date gonna be December 9, 11, 21, or 23
-Delayed.
-Don't get it before Christmas
-Don't get it before New Year
-Finally get it in January.
If Asus didn't mention nothing about the new Transformer's, i would have bought the transformer prime and be happy with it.
xGary said:
Yep. Apple really knows how to treat its customers.
My Apple Experience:
-iPad announced with official release date and all details.
-Available on website for preorder right away.
-They released a map a few days later showing the exact date they will be delivered for every city.
-They release the exact hour and stores where the iPad will be available on release date.
-My iPad arrives at the door on release date.
Prime Experience
-Announced in friggin October or something.
-"Release date gonna be November"
-Delayed
-Release date gonna be December 9, 11, 21, or 23
-Delayed.
-Don't get it before Christmas
-Don't get it before New Year
-Finally get it in January.
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My prime experience is the same except you can add.
-Got Prime up and running and had Unknown Serial, No GPS, a white spot on the screen and another dark spot
-Finally got ICS by manual update (dealt with other issues)
-Decided to RMA device once Serial Number Unknown wasn't getting fixed OTA
-Sent it in
-Arrived the next day, checked in at Asus 2 days after
-Went straight to repairing for 2 days
-Went to WB5-Waiting for 3 weeks
-Contacted Asus and they said they would refund me and my issues may not get fixed if I wait it out.
Seriously?
This is a piddling thing.
My problem with Android makers is two fold
A) They won't support (i.e. keep the OS current) their old product after the next version comes out
and
B) They keep locking the bootloader so WE can't get support anywhere except from them.
And they don't release their hardware drivers when they stop support.
In short, the whole thing is designed to be disposable in the short term.
Col.Kernel said:
Seriously?
This is a piddling thing.
My problem with Android makers is two fold
A) They won't support (i.e. keep the OS current) their old product after the next version comes out
and
B) They keep locking the bootloader so WE can't get support anywhere except from them.
And they don't release their hardware drivers when they stop support.
In short, the whole thing is designed to be disposable in the short term.
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Then stop *****ing about it here and stop buing Android merchendice!!!!
Ramius71 said:
Then stop *****ing about it here and stop buing Android merchendice!!!!
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Wait, what?
The OP had some gripes, I happen to disagree with what should take priority and now I'm not welcome in this thread, or even on the majority of these boards (at least according to you)?
Col.Kernel said:
Wait, what?
The OP had some gripes, I happen to disagree with what should take priority and now I'm not welcome in this thread, or even on the majority of these boards (at least according to you)?
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ignore him, he's an idiot...or a troll
Sorry if I was a little harsh, but you maybe got a little of my frustration about the *****ing on this forum that has been a bit much lately. Sorry about that.
All I´m saying is if you have that much against Android manufacturers and what they are able to deliver then maybe you should consider to switch to something else.
And if one of the things that is your biggest problem is a locked bootloader....yeah well..
Do you have anyone else in mind that does better?
I think the OP is on to something with what he is adressing. Because this hurts Android as a hole and not just us consumers.
People get their hopes and dreams up only to forget because of the very very long time it goes from launch til release.
The technogeeks like us stays with it, but the "normal" people loose interest quite fast.
That is one of the things that Apple do right imo. They tell everybody that "Hey...we will have this and that for you soon" and they actually deliver a couple of weeks later when the story is still fresh.
None of the Android manufacturers do this. And that is a shame because not only do we as consumers loose upon this, but the companies loose as well.
And the Apple way of doing it do look much more professional to the most of the public. They dont want to wait 2-3 months from they first hear about it until they can buy it.
And I am a Apple "hater", and wish that Android would rule the tablet world as well as the smartphone world.
I can´t stand the "Apple way" but I´m big enough to admit that they do something right.
Apple has their own stores. You cant provide the same experience with 3rd party stores. The way apple releases their products is nearly perfect.
But in my case, the prime situation was very good. I preordered in November and soon after that got a date "late january" - I got my prime around the 20th January and it worked perfectly out of the box (C1). So i'm totally happy with the situation.
What i really dont get though is that Asus decided to announce their new products so far ahead of the release (Tf700+Tf300). I dont see any positives to that.
->It stopped people from buying the tf201.
->before the new tablets get released there was the launch of the ipad 3 (i'm sure asus knew about that) - so alot of customers get lost to a competitor.
->It pisses off tf201 buyers and provokes product returns.
Primedoughnut said:
ignore him, he's an idiot...or a troll
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Or maybe both.
The reason Apple releases so quickly after announcing is because they are already way behind the curve and don't want to fall back any further.
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Its not really Android manufacturers to me but rather most tech companies.
I wish more of them would do it like Apple. Announce something and sell it in 1-2 weeks.
While I understand OP's point,
I respectfully disagree, One have to understand Apple is in a different place with other tablets on the market right now.
They have their own ecosystem, they don't compete with other company that builds systems using the same OS.
They have their own timeline, and with their experience in software/hardware + load of cash.
And Apple customers are loyal, once they are used to apple products its not unlikely for them to switch.
Android is a different story, 10-100s of manufacture competing, every company has something to offer, and since they are offering a very similar user experience (like windows on PC, you are likely to have owned ASUS, Acer, Dell or HP and switch between them). If you don't get a heads up on what's coming a few months earlier, you are very likely to have bought say, the Motorola xoom II, which still runs tegra 2 and was released about 1 month before the prime.
And if you have already bought the xoom II, its very unlikely for you to buy the prime since you had just bought a new tablet.
So now which user has more buyer's remorse?
1. Someone who waits for a quad core tablet to come out, but got delayed for a month or two to receive it.
or
2. Someone who bought the Xoom II, have it for 2 weeks, and to find out the quad core tablet is releasing in 2 weeks?
And I think the reason they announced the TF700/TF300 has to do with a few points:
1. the IPAD3, people know the ipad 3 has retina display, so they have to show that they are working on something with ultra high display too, so android user are less likely to switch to IOS due to the high resolution display.
2. Other Android Manufacture, people know that other android manufatures are going to come up with some in the Android department too, so they have to show something new in order to stand out in CES.
3. X'mas is too close to CES, they tried to release the prime before X'mas, but it should be clear it was a nearly impossible mission, considering now almost 4 months later, there are no other tegra 3 devices out yet. But ASUS managed to release it right before X'mas. And as a result, the CES show was just 1 month away.
Ramius71 said:
Sorry if I was a little harsh, but you maybe got a little of my frustration about the *****ing on this forum that has been a bit much lately. Sorry about that.
All I´m saying is if you have that much against Android manufacturers and what they are able to deliver then maybe you should consider to switch to something else.
And if one of the things that is your biggest problem is a locked bootloader....yeah well..
Do you have anyone else in mind that does better?
I think the OP is on to something with what he is adressing. Because this hurts Android as a hole and not just us consumers.
People get their hopes and dreams up only to forget because of the very very long time it goes from launch til release.
The technogeeks like us stays with it, but the "normal" people loose interest quite fast.
That is one of the things that Apple do right imo. They tell everybody that "Hey...we will have this and that for you soon" and they actually deliver a couple of weeks later when the story is still fresh.
None of the Android manufacturers do this. And that is a shame because not only do we as consumers loose upon this, but the companies loose as well.
And the Apple way of doing it do look much more professional to the most of the public. They dont want to wait 2-3 months from they first hear about it until they can buy it.
And I am a Apple "hater", and wish that Android would rule the tablet world as well as the smartphone world.
I can´t stand the "Apple way" but I´m big enough to admit that they do something right.
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That's what I was saying....
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So I'm extremely new to app building. The language is somewhat familiar to me but still kinda doesn't make sense. So I always was able to build using Flash various things pretty well. Once Adobe made it so you could use Flash Pro to build apps I was able to jump in and put together some simple things. But my main point right now is I am trying to build an app that collects all the data imputed by the user. Basically a log book of some sort. Various professions require a log book and it can be digital. So I'm trying to make a particular one a reality. So my issue is collecting or saving all the data. And only from about 20 entries. Hope I'm asking this in the right forum/section. Thanks.
Disable Default function of "Back" button for Android.
Hi there!
I am programming with Flash CS6 (as3). have tried SO MANY methods to PREVENT the default function of Back button in Android but no success.
This is one of the codes I have used with no success:
stage.addEventListener(KeyboardEvent.KEY_UP, optionsKey, false, 0, true);
function optionsKey(ke:KeyboardEvent):void
{
if (ke.keyCode == Keyboard.BACK)
{
ke.preventDefault();
ke.stopImmediatePropagation();
//Do my own code below...
}
}
I am using Flash Cs6 , Air 3.2 for Android , Testing it on LG Google nexus 4.
When I use the flash simulator, it works fine! Means the Back Button, let the App go back to previous step (as I expect it to do)
But after I publish the apk (Aspect ratio: Auto , Auto orientation , Render mode: GPU), as soon as I press BACK, it minimize my app!
(means when i press the Back button on my phone, the App minimize down (not close/no exit). when I re-activate it/click on it, I see the app has actually gone one step BACK (as I programmed and expected), but I just CANT STOP the default action of MINIMIZING/De-activating my app after pressing Back button.
Anyone have any "Fla" file that contains working Back function, so that I can check it in ACTION please?!
Because I have used too many codes and no success yet
thanks and looking forward for your any kind of hlep... :crying:
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alireza1001 said:
Hi there!
I am programming with Flash CS6 (as3). have tried SO MANY methods to PREVENT the default function of Back button in Android but no success.
This is one of the codes I have used with no success:
stage.addEventListener(KeyboardEvent.KEY_UP, optionsKey, false, 0, true);
function optionsKey(ke:KeyboardEvent):void
{
if (ke.keyCode == Keyboard.BACK)
{
ke.preventDefault();
ke.stopImmediatePropagation();
//Do my own code below...
}
}
I am using Flash Cs6 , Air 3.2 for Android , Testing it on LG Google nexus 4.
When I use the flash simulator, it works fine! Means the Back Button, let the App go back to previous step (as I expect it to do)
But after I publish the apk (Aspect ratio: Auto , Auto orientation , Render mode: GPU), as soon as I press BACK, it minimize my app!
(means when i press the Back button on my phone, the App minimize down (not close/no exit). when I re-activate it/click on it, I see the app has actually gone one step BACK (as I programmed and expected), but I just CANT STOP the default action of MINIMIZING/De-activating my app after pressing Back button.
Anyone have any "Fla" file that contains working Back function, so that I can check it in ACTION please?!
Because I have used too many codes and no success yet
thanks and looking forward for your any kind of hlep... :crying:
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I am not sure, but in my project I used this three:
e.stopPropagation();
e.stopImmediatePropagation();
e.preventDefault();
I will check, if I forgot something else.
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Nope. This is all.
This is what Omate backers received:
From: Kickstarter <[email protected]>
Subject: Project Update #68: Omate TrueSmart: Water-resistant standalone Smartwatch 2.0 by Omate
Reply-To: No Reply <[email protected]>
Confidential: Omate X preview (For Backers Only)
Dear All,*On Thursday, we will celebrate the 1st anniversary of the Omate TrueSmart Kickstarter campaign which, thanks to you, was more than ten times the success we anticipated. It was your support that enabled our small team to bring the TrueSmart to the global stage. Thank you very much. We feel a deep responsibility to provide you the best with our limited resources, as a young tech startup.*
For the last twelve months, we have been working hard on setting the smartwatch 2.0 segment and overall Telecom Wearable standards. On top of that, we created a fully wearable version of Android a year before Google launched its own ecosystem.*
The TrueSmart was envisioned as a weekend, adventure and sport watch; the perfect “Outdoor mate” to keep you connected where you can’t carry a smartphone. The TrueSmart was essentially designed to target people who have an active lifestyle, allowing them to have a fully featured Android smartwatch connected to the telecom network.*
*Introducing the Omate X (just between you and me)*
The TrueSmart was designed for the 10% of our time during of which we partake in outdoor activities. Now, I am pleased to announce our new model - the Omate X - which will take care of the other 90%.*
More than a smartwatch, the Omate X is a fashion statement. It will allow you to enjoy all the perks of a companion smartwatch in a stylish way. It is designed to push your notifications from your smartphone to your wrist via Bluetooth.*
Only backers can view this update. You are the very first ones to hear about the Omate X. Official announcement will be released tomorrow.
Here are the Top 5 features you need to know about the Omate X:*
- *Beautiful:* premium metal look and feel; comfortable to wear every day, standard removable 22mm straps. (Genuine leather strap by default)*
- *Simple:*No frills! Clean and simple user interface. Less is more.*
*- Functional:* Works with both Android and iOS: shows notifications for incoming calls, social media updates, messages, reminders, and more.*
- *Long battery life:*Up to a week on the wrist with our 400mAh battery*
- *Affordable:*preorders will start on www.omate.com (http://www.omate.com) from September 1st to September 30th at US$129 but since you are family, you may get it for just US$99 until September 5th (using the following code: LUTETIA)*
The first 1,000 pre-orders will be engraved with an “Early Bird / Limited Edition” serial number.*
We hope you are as excited as us about our step into the companion segment. Thank you all again for your great support during our first year.*
We are looking forward to continuing the adventure with you through the Omate X.*
Stay tuned and see you on September 1st on www.omate.com (http://www.omate.com)*
Best regards,*
Laurent & the Omate Team
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MrTip said:
This is what Omate backers received:
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After waiting 6 months to get my Omate and with absolutely no support from them and a major crappy software I don't think I will invest one more dime in this company. Basically they used us to get money to create a watch that does not respect the promises they put on the kickstarter, and now they want to ask us to buy a second product that is suppose to be 10x better, come on Omate, you really think we are that stupid???
- No support
- Software is crap, dont even support syncro with your phone
- At start the watch was suppose to be way thinner, then they changed the design
- Was suppose to be water resistant, but if you insert a sim card or sd card then you lose water resistant feature
- Battery life is very bad, watch dont even last 1 day, and now they claim the new watch will keep up for a week, lol
- Laurent used our money to go around the world and have fun while we were waiting on update that was almost inexistant
In the end we paid for a product and got crap instead.
Good luck getting people to send you more money for dreams.
slam666 said:
Good luck getting people to send you more money for dreams.
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They should advertise on newspapers, because I don't see anyone who can use a search engine as a potential client.
I have been a mostly happy TS user for a while. But just recently I lost my charger, and Omate is just "sorry, we're not shipping chargers right now, we'll let you know".
So, as much as I have gotten used to wearing a smartwatch and I need/want to replace my now dead TS, I'd be very unlikely to spend more $$ on Omate until they start taking care of their user base first.
You can try making a charger with some spring pins and a stripped USB cable.
mklopez said:
I have been a mostly happy TS user for a while. But just recently I lost my charger, and Omate is just "sorry, we're not shipping chargers right now, we'll let you know".
So, as much as I have gotten used to wearing a smartwatch and I need/want to replace my now dead TS, I'd be very unlikely to spend more $$ on Omate until they start taking care of their user base first.
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I've read somewhere that simvalley chargers look really the same and can be found online.
MrTip said:
I've read somewhere that simvalley chargers look really the same and can be found online.
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http://www.pearl.de/a-PX1792-1021.shtml
Rather set your money on fire than purchase anything from these scammers.
xcooling said:
Rather set your money on fire than purchase anything from these scammers.
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lol
I prefer some software/firmware update for my TS, instead of buying another one.
I thought it was a joke at first. Speaking of jokes, did anyone who won the hackathon get their "individually numbered" VID watch yet, lol
Go and read those unhappy posts in KickAssStarter Forum.
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...c976c519a77af835177&ref=backer_project_update
Probably Omate cannot delete those posts as what they did in their Facebook. Buy Omate last
Mobilefun has the Moto 360 2 Sport listed as being quite a bit cheaper than the Standard 360 2, Standard model is £269, Sport is £219 . I find this a little bit surprising as the Sport comes with a GPS chip in it, so I'm wondering if the specs will be scaled down in some other way, or if its just the actual watch strap, which is a lot cheaper?
Sport:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/motorola-moto-360-sport-2nd-gen-smartwatch-black-p54780.htm
Standard:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/motorola-moto-360-l-2nd-gen-smartwatch-cognac-leather-p54778.htm
Moto has said relatively little about the Sport, much less when it will be available and pricing.
It sucks that there is no GPS on classic one. Dont like the sport looks but need GPS
ksekhar said:
It sucks that there is no GPS on classic one. Dont like the sport looks but need GPS
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That GPS will kill battery life I bet though.
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i've used the sony smartwatch 3, and its just like the gps hardware in the android phones. By that I mean when GPS funcionality is called upon (which for the watch would be during a run or bike ride) then it comes on, otherwise its doesn't effect a thing. And when I was using it for biking, i didn't find it was that bad.
thanks for the heads up OP, the sport appears to be skipping out on the outer metal casing and leather band in place for an injected molded rubber/silicon band, so i could see it being a decent price break IMO.
Call it "guilt by association" but I couldn't find the following blurb (from mobilefun's description) anywhere on Moto's site:
Track your workouts like never before with the Moto 360 2nd Gen, the simple and easy to use SmartWatch that gives you all the information you'll need, quickly and consciously right there on your wrist. With health app integration, the Moto 360 2nd Gen will even be able to motivate you when your not moving, as well as informing you of your stats from your last run/workout.
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But what left me shaking my head "no" was the really odd use of the word "consciously" and the misspelled "your". Taken together, I call "fake." I'd trust that preorder price about as far as I can throw it.
In the meantime, I owned the MS Band for about 8 months, and generally found that I could run GPS on it for 4ish hours before it died. Not saying the Moto Sport uses the same module -- just noting that for the Band, you could do a decent run, hike, or bike ride with GPS on and still have power left.
-Matt
Hoping Moto will release some information about the sport model soon. I actually like the feel of silicon rubber and the GPS makes it the top choice atm.
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anthonyvardiz said:
Hoping Moto will release some information about the sport model soon. I actually like the feel of silicon rubber and the GPS makes it the top choice atm.
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I have a (non-GPS) Garmin that looks very similar, both size-wise and in the band design. I'd definitely make it my daily timepiece! Though...from reading up on the 1st gen 360 it's starting to sound like it would need a nightly charge. As a Microsoft Band owner, I was hoping the new 360 would do sleep-tracking but that's looking somewhat unlikely.
-Matt
gadgetrants said:
I have a (non-GPS) Garmin that looks very similar, both size-wise and in the band design. I'd definitely make it my daily timepiece! Though...from reading up on the 1st gen 360 it's starting to sound like it would need a nightly charge. As a Microsoft Band owner, I was hoping the new 360 would do sleep-tracking but that's looking somewhat unlikely.
-Matt
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There is a sleep tracking app for all android wear search the market man.
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There is a sleep tracking app for all android wear search the market man.
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Yep...right after my post I started to do a bit of research. Looks like the most popular app (Sleep as Android) is good but has mixed reviews. I guess I misspoke -- I wasn't thinking of third-party apps, but instead that the 360 was specifically designed for sleep tracking. In particular, the Band (and I guess, other activity trackers) have a number of optimizations to allow the device to continue running through the night without killing the battery while gathering data...HR, motion, body temp, etc. I'd imagine that third-party efforts would normally be a lot tougher on the battery, and perhaps not have the same level of access to the hardware.
-Matt
Looks like the listing in the OP
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/motorola-moto-360-sport-2nd-gen-smartwatch-black-p54780.htm
Has been updated from "preorder" to "register interest." Preorder price has been wiped as well. Hopefully we'll have some real data on price/availability in the next several weeks!
-Matt
OK, some good news (I think). The black 360 Sport has shown up for preorder on Amazon-Italy for 299 EUR, which is a perfect match to the 219 GPB the OP mentioned. Seems legit. Shipping date unknown.
http://www.amazon.it/Motorola-Moto-Sport-Smartwatch-Generation/dp/B015FON5Y8
-Matt
Now we've got a preorder listing at Amazon UK for 219 GBP. Release date is scheduled for December 1.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Version-Generation-Sport-Smartwatch/dp/B01580CPOK/
-Matt
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Now we've got a preorder listing at Amazon UK for 219 GBP. Release date is scheduled for December 1.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Version-Generation-Sport-Smartwatch/dp/B01580CPOK/
-Matt
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December in the uk or usa? I live in texas and just bought the gear s2 but i think im returning for this watch because of gps
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December in the uk or usa? I live in texas and just bought the gear s2 but i think im returning for this watch because of gps
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The Amazon UK release date moved from Dec 1 to Jan 1 a few weeks ago. No clear sign on the Italian UK page. TBH I think both of those are pretty much speculation by Amazon.
I have seen absolutely ZERO news in the US since the announcement in early September. I have to assume at this point that like the LG, the 360 Sport is being indefinitely pulled, perhaps due to a major setback or two on the hardware side. The fact that Motorola has said nothing about it -- since they introduced it with a non-working demo months ago -- is pretty bad news.
-Matt
Good news, looks like a January 7 release date, $299.
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2015/12/moto-360-sport-meet-your-new-workout.html
-Matt
FINALLY!
It is strange that Motorola hasn't yet allowed this smartwatch to be shown or reviewed... The only thing we saw until now were dummy Moto 360 Sports...
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It is strange that Motorola hasn't yet allowed this smartwatch to be shown or reviewed... The only thing we saw until now were dummy Moto 360 Sports...
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I don't think the design/development path has been a straight line....lots of little mysteries. One that bugs me is some apparent uncertainty about the size: early on it looked like it would be 42mm, but now the specs list it as 45mm. The fact that there were only dummies at the announcement in September was also a real red flag. I'm still hunting daily for any kind of review or hands-on data but....nothing.... Guess we'll have to wait and see in January -- though supposedly the earlier release in Europe may tell us something!
-Matt
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I don't think the design/development path has been a straight line....lots of little mysteries. One that bugs me is some apparent uncertainty about the size: early on it looked like it would be 42mm, but now the specs list it as 45mm. The fact that there were only dummies at the announcement in September was also a real red flag. I'm still hunting daily for any kind of review or hands-on data but....nothing.... Guess we'll have to wait and see in January -- though supposedly the earlier release in Europe may tell us something!
-Matt
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The size of the screen is the same as the 42mm version, but the case is 45mm. I think that's where you're getting mixed up.
There's a few unboxing/first impression articles. Really waiting to see battery life in GPS mode and what data screens are customizable on runs. I tried other running apps on a Zenwatch 2 I had (connected to phone) and the data screen options for running were terrible on the watch. Basically time, average pace, and distance. No customization. I believe I tried Runtastic, Runkeeper, and a couple others.
At least, according to ZDnet, GPS accuracy is pretty accurate.... unlike the Gear S2 4G version with GPS. That was terrible.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/first-...port-fitness-focused-android-wear-smartwatch/
http://www.androidcentral.com/wrist-first-impressions-moto-360-sport-smartwatch
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/12/15/moto-360-sport-unboxing/
http://www.slashgear.com/moto-360-sport-review-part-1-day-1-comfort-16418803/
https://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/12/15/moto-360-sport-unboxing-first-impressions/