Does any have an opinion as so the speed between the 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060 va tegra 2.
Seems like all the major players are using tegra 2 but the hp touchpad sports 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060.
Is one chip more costly then the other?
My guess is that the tegra 2 is cheaper thats why the mainstream tablets are using it. But I could be wrong.
Any input?
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Does any have an opinion as so the speed between the 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060 va tegra 2.
Seems like all the major players are using tegra 2 but the hp touchpad sports 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060.
Is one chip more costly then the other?
My guess is that the tegra 2 is cheaper thats why the mainstream tablets are using it. But I could be wrong.
Any input?
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Most of the Honeycomb tablets use Tegra 2 because Honeycomb was primarily built for Tegra 2 much the same way ICS was built primarily for omap 4.
As far as speed goes, with identical clock speed the GPU in the APQ8060 (Adreno 220) is twice as fast as the one in Tegra, while Tegra has a slightly faster CPU. They average out to be even.
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i will tell you something graphic drivers in android are big problem and google cant do anything about it as the number of devices are too many,i mean to say they cant optimize it as it is in the control of oems and there is the problem as most oems dont have great developers you get scrap drivers on the chipset, you can see tegra drivers on 1 and 2 are not so great, i have notion ink and touchpad alpha 3 the flash videos in touchpad alpha are great with no stuttering but in notion ink there is so much stuttering while playing.coz tegra is new where is qualcomm has been around for longtime and they know much better than nvidia in optimizing their drivers.this is where apple is much better than google as they have a single chipset to optimize and no oems to worry about so their products come with optimized drivers and work great.i wish there was a way oems could collaborate on their drivers with google so it would work great for android in terms of the os delivery for all
Why is this in development for :s
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Why is this in development for :s
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A very simple example: Tegra 2 can't play 1080 video, Qualcomm APQ8060 can play flawlessly
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Thank you for this.....
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A very simple example: Tegra 2 can't play 1080 video, Qualcomm APQ8060 can play flawlessly
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There is a guy who thinks he knows more about tablets than most ppl. He's very annoying with the information that he does have. I came across an HP TouchPad and loaded the CM9 Nightly build and was talking about the difference between a device that had the Tigra 2. He was trying to tell me that the Tigra 2 was better but I couldn't find a difference. So now I can go back and show him what I've never even noticed (except for the fact that I think my video is better) seeing as there is a lack of games that are working on ICS 4.0.4 I'm not able to show him anything that looks good. I cant get any HD games working.
If you can let me know what the most compatible game packages I should be looking for with the HP Touch 32 GB please let me know. I've tried just about everything even the Samsung Galaxy II. I get all the way to the game and it just closes.
adreno 220 GPU its 2x more powerful than tegra 2 GPU,
and if you overclocked the touchpad CPU at 1.8ghz will be 50‰ more faster
I've over clocked to 1.5Ghz and she's smooth as a whistle. I'm noticing that none none of the HD games r working is there an update as to when that maybe fixed ? Or am I just using the wrong install files... I've got some HD games for some of my other devices I would love to pay them on this new system :beer:
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I've over clocked to 1.5Ghz and she's smooth as a whistle. I'm noticing that none none of the HD games r working is there an update as to when that maybe fixed ? Or am I just using the wrong install files... I've got some HD games for some of my other devices I would love to pay them on this new system :beer:
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what custom rom use?
because on my touchpad i can play every new and old hd games
I'm using the nightly build 4.0.4 CM9.
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OK the latest update.... I'm not sure what happened or why the games were not working. However after restarting the system (after installing the game) it worked... not sure why.... thanks to everyone for all your help and hard work... I'm wondering when the expected fix for the camera will be out. It will be nice to use Skype on this :beer:
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CPU wise tegra is better just for the fact that they are using a9 cores and the s3 snapdragon uses scorpion cores which are more closely related to the a8. S3 snapdragon @ 1.5 ghz is less than or equal to an a9 based processor running @ 1 GHz.
GPU goes to the snapdragon as its a lot more powerful GPU than the geforce GPU in the tegra... however there is much much more high end games that are tuned in to work with the tegra GPU so in real world performance its about a wash. Do you prefer performance or compatibility.
The one spot that the snapdragon processor shines is battery life. Going back to the s3 running @ 1.5 GHz and the a9 based SoC running @ 1 GHz you'll actually see better battery life from the s3 as the cores are more power efficient, but in the end your not really going to notice the difference unless you plan on playing 1080p videos which is a little bit pointless seeing as our screen isn't even 720p and 1080p video takes up a lot of space.
Long story short its pretty much a wash barring the 1080p video.
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is there a way to fake a tegra device¿ with the latest nightlys and chainfire i got mothing to work!
or is chainfire working on cm9/
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is there a way to fake a tegra device¿ with the latest nightlys and chainfire i got mothing to work!
or is chainfire working on cm9/
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I don't use chain fire. I'm just using the adreno drivers. Also to spoof as another device u will have to edit your build props. Make sure u do a full backup and backup your build.props
You can use rom toolbox.
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I don't use chain fire. I'm just using the adreno drivers. Also to spoof as another device u will have to edit your build props. Make sure u do a full backup and backup your build.props
You can use rom toolbox.
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This is a useful step by step guide from Reverend Kyle .
http://www.reverendkyle.com/index.php/articles/107-how-to-edit-the-build-prop-file-in-android .
Build.prop Editor (available in play store) is a great way to edit your build.prop. it automatically stores a backup every time you edit as well.
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is there a way to fake a tegra device¿ with the latest nightlys and chainfire i got mothing to work!
or is chainfire working on cm9/
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You can spoof a tegra 2 GPU but not a tegra 3 GPU with chain fire.
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do ihave just to spoof the build or do i have also to install chainfire.?
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do ihave just to spoof the build or do i have also to install chainfire.?
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If your spoofing the GPU then you will need chainfire. If your just doing what I'm doing and simply spoofing the market to games built for the adreno GPU then just edit your build.props
I'm spoofing the market to think I'm a galaxy s2 or Motorola Xoom. They both have the same CPU. Galaxy S2 uses the Tegra 2 signature and the Motorola Xoom uses the Adreno signature. Both of these spoofs do not require me to have the chainfire program. I did install the adreno drivers linked to the original install post.
I'm thinking I going to start to play around with the chainfire GPU spoof options more for game download compatibility. As far as downloading and installing a Tegra 2 game, you will need to spoof the GPU for the download (unless you manually find the correct apk) and the install will also need the GPU spoof. Once the install is done then disable the GPU spoof. Then run the game with your Galaxy spoof or your Xoom spoof.
Please note that I've spoofed my build.props and have not changed it since. I'm currently showing my device as a Motorola Xoom. I'm able to play all the games. Only every now and than do I change it for the game install. Then i put it back and I have no issues. HD games and all.
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I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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nope.
dungeon defender hd which was optimized for tegra did not work. samurai 2 does not work either.a real bummer
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nope.
dungeon defender hd which was optimized for tegra did not work. samurai 2 does not work either.a real bummer
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Friut ninja hd, also doesnt work. Says that its optimised for tegra devices only.
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From reading other comments elsewhere it appeared that the Exynos chipset was better than the Tegra 2, or is the Tegra 2 just better in games?...
Tegra games will not work on any other GPU ATM
galaxy s and nexus s PowerVR sgx 540 and other high end GPUs are more than capable of running "tegra 2" games.
Not to mention the tegra 2 really isn't that much faster than the SGS NS sgx540 tegra has two CPU cores and from what i gathered when gaming it dedicated one core for system and the other strictly for games when gaming.
Nvidia is paying off developers just like they do on PC. only difference between mobile and PC though is that PC "nvidia meant to be played" games will still work on ATI
Not the same with other mobile GPUs unfortunately
Nvidia is ruining android by doing this exclusive BS
Also the SGS2 GPU should be on par if not faster than the tegra 2
^ Gotcha thanks!...
Not sure if this has been answered before, but this post seems like a good place for this discussion...
1. Why did samsung launch a phone under two different cpu's...
2. Doesn't this mean that when samsung goes to release an android update for the phone they have to make two different updates, one for each cpu?
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Not sure if this has been answered before, but this post seems like a good place for this discussion...
1. Why did samsung launch a phone under two different cpu's...
2. Doesn't this mean that when samsung goes to release an android update for the phone they have to make two different updates, one for each cpu?
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1. Probably due to the limited supply of Exynos CPUs
2. No, unless there needs to be a new driver written for the CPU (which is highly unlikely)
Nvidia is just causing some more fragmentation. As if we needed anymore.
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Not only that but AMD is actually getting into the Android hardware game so it's about to get even messier. I hope Google comes out with some kind of DirectX thing to help with this.
well this cant go on forever because HTC sensation also comin out with a different cpu. so we should see the games released in different versions for all dual core phones pretty soon.
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well this cant go on forever because HTC sensation also comin out with a different cpu. so we should see the games released in different versions for all dual core phones pretty soon.
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Wouldnt worry to much about that Most game developers make sure their game run on a wide selection of phones. Addapting a game to run on a new phone is not a lot of work, but increases the market potential. As mentioned before, Nvidia is paying developers to make the game tegra2 only. And luckely Nvidia is the only one doing this so far. A direct X solution for android could be a good medicine against the fragmentation, but I do know a certain hackers community that makes tegra 2 games playable on other devices. (have been playing galaxy on fire 2 for a while now) But XDA doesnt support linking to pirated software so I cannot share this, im sorry. (Google is your friend )
If the range of tegra 2 games will grow, there will be more interest in porting those games. Since its not very hard. Lets hope the hackers destroy the fragmentation haha.
As long as game developers stick to OpenGL ES specifications, all devices will be able to play the game (current). The device with more powerful GPU will obviously play it better.
What Nvidia is doing with Tegra is that they are making the sponsored game developers use the proprietary texture compression format that only Tegra Devices can run. This is what I have against Tegra Zone and Tegra as whole. The last thing we want is Nvidia playing dirty games they tried to play in PC gaming arena (they still do to some extent with PhysX and CUDA ).
So there is no real need to worry about developers having to code the game for each GPU core out there. Sensation might have different GPU but it will be OpenGL ES 2.x compatible just like Mali and others.
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I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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Samsung galaxy s and Desire HD can run tegra game ... why would world's fastest phone cannot run it????
Ur solution here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSAJptywT8Q
Below the video , see description.. he has attached all files needed...
U need to root ur SGS2 and Install chaifire 3d... install nvidia driver.. it will run flawlessly....
here.. .http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087427
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/showthread.php/4949-Tegra-only-games-now-working-in-SGSII!
Enjoy...
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I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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Yes but you'll need to Root, download Chainfire3D and the NVidia Tegra patch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090032
I can confirm this works for some games...
These are the games I've tested thus far:
Samurai II: Vengeance runs very well - However their is a bug with opening the combo draw.
Pinball HD for Tegra runs flawlessly
Riptide GP doesn't load at all - Just a black screen and then crash to homescreen.
When I have the money I'll buy the other games later and post results later.
Our phones also use an OpenGL compression which no other phone uses as of this moment, so there is nearly 0 support for it at the moment
EDIT: I forgot to mention this is with the use of Chainfire 3D with the Tegra plugin.
Pinball HD is running even on my Xperia X10 with Chainfire 3d...
Samurai 2 ... runs on low texture but not playable on x10.... but i have seen videos of it running on SGS and Desire HD... so it will run on sgs2 too
Dont know about other games...
Hello!
im just wondering if there is anyway to deactivate the dual core?
or is my problem somewhere else? ive noticed that some, actually lots of games and emulators doesnt run on my s2 and i figured this is cause of the dual core?
is there anyway around this, isnt it the dual core? or is there anyway to turn it of (temp ofcourse)
Are you sure it`s not because of the Mali-400MP GPU in the S2, a lot of games designed for the nvidia tegra2`s gpu , you can download a emulator but you need to have root.
Your problems have nothing todo with dual core.
but i didnt need root to play emus on my xperia, so it shouldnt be because of root.
mabye the gpu?
The 2nd core is added and removed as and when needed but it's not your problem.
The problem is that game makers and gpu makers have been using non standard opengl sharers, and Mali only supports the standard ones.
The way to get around this is to use chainfire 3D along with plugins, which you can find via google and in my 4shared in my sig.
There are loads of threads on it, and about which games need which plugins etc.
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Bug Village, Inotia 3 and more are not nVidia Tegra games and they do freeze.
Using Chainfire3D doesn't help either.
As for dual core being the problem is really unknown for me. I am thinking along the same lines actually.
Multiple cores might not be used all the time depending on whether the application is multi-threaded or single-threaded. The 2nd core is always there, even if your application doesn't use it. It does not turn off just because the 2nd core is idling away.
Throw it against a wall. That should disable the second core. Just be careful that you don't do it too many times as you may disable both.
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Bug Village, Inotia 3 and more are not nVidia Tegra games and they do freeze.
Using Chainfire3D doesn't help either.
As for dual core being the problem is really unknown for me. I am thinking along the same lines actually.
Multiple cores might not be used all the time depending on whether the application is multi-threaded or single-threaded. The 2nd core is always there, even if your application doesn't use it. It does not turn off just because the 2nd core is idling away.
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Because they are not Tegra games doesn't mean they work with Mali gpu.
And multiple cores won't cause such issues : if the App was not designed with threading, it won't use second use.
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Underclock to 500mhz and do a dance
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Because they are not Tegra games doesn't mean they work with Mali gpu.
And multiple cores won't cause such issues : if the App was not designed with threading, it won't use second use.
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Mali GPU might be a sad thing then, either that or these games are badly programed.
It's the games who are badly programmed. They're using Qualcomm's or Nvidia's proprietary textures format, which aren't (officially) supported by the MALI GPU, leading to incompatibilites (even with Chainfire, which is not perfect)
As the topic says which is better?
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mali 400...
I havent tested mali, but the downside with tegra 2 is that they say that nvidia haven't released the source code, leaving developers fumbling in darkness. I have an LG Optimus 2X with tegra 2 gpu, and I really like the smoothness and quickness of my graphics. I haven't seen any graphical problems yet, though I have played lots of demanding games.
You could check these out: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked and http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-tegra-2/.
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You could check these out: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked and http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-tegra-2/.
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Thx bro.
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That was Anandtech Feb 2011 benchmark.
I admit those scores also misled me for the longest time, which is what brought me to purchase a Tegra 2 tablet. Then after a while, seeing that there is little gaming support for Tegra 2 (couldn't even run Dead Space, and Real Racing 2 ran like a dog), I fell out of that wagon pretty fast and got an iPad 2, which ran basically ANYTHING, and freaking hell smoothly I might add.
Now I got to play with a friend's Galaxy that comes with a Mali 400MP. What amazes me is that it can run NOVA 3 relatively well, whereas Tegra 2 version can't even show you any shader effects, that is, if you get it to run at all. So after some more Googling, I found another benchmark from Anandtech that claims a totally different thing. Have yourself a look.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
Now if you base your performance on the first 2 graphs, of course you'd think the Tegra 2 is so much faster than Mali 400MP. But hang on, scroll down a little further, and you'll see how wrong you are. For on every graph that follows, Mali 400MP freaking hands the other players their asses! All except Flash, which it ties with Tegra 2.
i think they are performing close together, any rumor? no i dont think so,
These Benchmarks are only theoretical values.
I'm running my Sony Xperia P which contains a cutted Mali400 with Chainfire3d fired up with Nvidia Plugin so i'm able to play the Tegra 2 Games and they are smooth like Hell even with 4xMSAA.
So Benchmarks are one Hand but real feel Values are the better one Solution to mention about Performance
(Xperia P has only 1Core Mali400MP the SGSII has 4Core Mali400MP4)
And how does that contradict what I said about Tegra 2 vs Mali 400MP? Mali 400MP > Tegra 2, totally contrary to what a lot of people have asserted on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977412
And if you're a Tegra fan looking for more aggravation, just look up "tegra 2 NOVA3" and watch a few videos, and watch a few videos of how Mali 400 runs the same game.
Tegra 2
But mali400 have support more than tegra 2 video codecs
Just in case some of you missed it over at android central.
Just a quick demo of the S4 Krait vs the Tegra 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6xb8t3FoFI&feature=player_embedded
Source:By Chris Parsons
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-one-x-benchmarks-pit-qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-against-nvidia-tegra-3
the Tegra 3 should probably shine when a Tegra 3 optimized app is used for comparison. not sure if you need special software framework to take advantage of the quad core +1
S4 build off the a15 takes the cake. Qualcomm did a great job with it.
some benchmarks indicate the tegra is more powerful and some indicate that the snapdragon is more powerful however it is ussually hinted that the snapdragon will provide similar performance but save battery because of its asynchronous dual cores. really it is all about software and drivers and nvidia is renowned for their developments in both. nvidia will get the game first, run them smoothly and display well optimized graphics. it doesn`t matter how pwerful the hardware is if the software can`t take advantage of it. this is clearly indicated in the last generation snapdragons which had terrible gpu issues due to poor gpu drivers. keep in mind however that many apps have not been optimised for quad core and may not run at their best.
Yes this is pretty well known here...each SoC has its own advantage over the other....specifically the Tegra3 should sin out GPU wise, while the S4 wins out in some other categories...
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Yes this is pretty well known here...each SoC has its own advantage over the other....specifically the Tegra3 should sin out GPU wise, while the S4 wins out in some other categories...
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Did you not see the video? S4 spanked tegra3 in the graphics benchmark
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Why was his tegra3 phone so much smaller? I thought they were both the same size just different soc?
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Why was his tegra3 phone so much smaller? I thought they were both the same size just different soc?
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They are the same size one phone was on display platform and the other was laying flat..... Basically both phones in different angles.
pretty intresting test breakup, tegra 3 looks to have cpu cores with a lot more omph but its extremely memory-starved, even if nominally it should have twice the mhz for memory than s4 (from the datasheet, dunno what kind of memory HTC actually shipped in that phone)
as for graphics its a bit funny that the S4 gpu core is a development of one ati/amd project(*), even here we have ati/amd VS nvidia showoff...
(*) selling their mobile division for pocket change just when mobile chips were starting to become the biggest cpu business in the world was really the stupidiest thing even done by amd...
Anyone else have the feeling S4 gonna spank the new G3 Exynos chip too ?
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Anyone else have the feeling S4 gonna spank the new G3 Exynos chip too ?
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Dont know about spank, but it will be on par with everything except for graphics. I would expect the exynos to be better because of the GPU.
Is it just me or does the speed of a processor matter anymore?
Seriously. I have tried murdering my 3D with tons of roms, multiple resource hungry apps, graphics intense games, fancy live wall papers, and STILL. She barely breaks a sweat.
I do understand bragging rights with fellow gadget heads but really as long as I can play my occasional game, listen to music, watch porn, and do my social thing, I'm happy as can be. Battery life is my bragging game now.
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Is it just me or does the speed of a processor matter anymore?
Seriously. I have tried murdering my 3D with tons of roms, multiple resource hungry apps, graphics intense games, fancy live wall papers, and STILL. She barely breaks a sweat.
I do understand bragging rights with fellow gadget heads but really as long as I can play my occasional game, listen to music, watch porn, and do my social thing, I'm happy as can be. Battery life is my bragging game now.
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I don't know about you, but I use the MEAN ROM and while it is the best ROM hands down, I still don't get the performance I would expect from a dual core phone. It is the best performer among other ROMS, but still not what I would expect in this day and age. When I am connected to WIFI, I would expect that my web pages (on device), load as fast as on my PC... or at least almost as fast. This has never been the case with any ROM or any phone. Once that happens, I will be close to happy.
I am guessing that the biggest limiter these days is the speed of internal memory? Does anyone know how that compares to PC memory?
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I don't know about you, but I use the MEAN ROM and while it is the best ROM hands down, I still don't get the performance I would expect from a dual core phone. It is the best performer among other ROMS, but still not what I would expect in this day and age. When I am connected to WIFI, I would expect that my web pages (on device), load as fast as on my PC... or at least almost as fast. This has never been the case with any ROM or any phone. Once that happens, I will be close to happy.
I am guessing that the biggest limiter these days is the speed of internal memory? Does anyone know how that compares to PC memory?
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That makes sense. But is it the gpu that makes it slower than a pc? I want faster page loading too.
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my evo 3d got 3500 in quadrant, nearly 2x of gtab at 810 megahertz. sk rom is crazy. However, I think the tegra 3 is better because companion core and doesn't afraid of anything.
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my evo 3d got 3500 in quadrant, nearly 2x of gtab at 810 megahertz. sk rom is crazy. However, I think the tegra 3 is better because companion core and doesn't afraid of anything.
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Companion core doesn't do anything sir, the 28 nm process on the s4 kills the tegra 3 in battery, even with 4glte on
Source: anandtech htc one x for att review
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I'm thinking I'm waiting for the s4 quad cores to come out. That will be epic
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Companion core doesn't do anything sir, the 28 nm process on the s4 kills the tegra 3 in battery, even with 4glte on
Source: anandtech htc one x for att review
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Tegra is still better because you have the privilege of having a tablet with 4 cores. If you say "oh I got a tablet with 2 ARM cortex 15 cores, nobodys gonna get what you're saying.".
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I'm thinking I'm waiting for the s4 quad cores to come out. That will be epic
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They already have them I believe its a 32 nm it has everything that the s4 has except the LTE
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They already have them I believe its a 32 nm it has everything that the s4 has except the LTE
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The 32nm quad core is by Samsung and is the Exynos SoC, not an S4...Currently the only S4 in the Qualcomm roadmap for this year is the APQ8064, and it has no modem so likely a tablet only chip...
Now the rumor of the VZ HTC phone for the holidays this year states they will have a quadcore S4 in it, which is odd given the roadmap leaks as the earliest MSM(these are the ones with built in modems) variant quad-core was not listed till Q1 of '13...
btw saw you got the credit for the EVOLTE buildprop and bootanimation leak on goodandevo man.
Notice how the nexus 5 lags whilst the galaxy s3 and nexus 10 are smooth?
Nexus 5- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRMnXO8cMgY
Galaxy s3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjVD0zHygm4
Nexus 10- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxTcbt4sHps
Could this be because the snapdragon is crap or because of optimization?
Well frankly speaking mali 400 is kinda old now, but i guess it still is a decent performer for most of today's games, though some lags r there on some games
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Mali is known for it's good (close to console's) graphics and good power too,though it might be still optimization.
Well,at least,nexus 5 still should run it better.
abhibnl said:
Well frankly speaking mali 400 is kinda old now, but i guess it still is a decent performer for most of today's games, though some lags r there on some games
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Games,which lag on Mali are just unoptimized (a little). I think,if developers of those games will optimize their games better,Mali will probably won't lag even in today's games.
Wow
The fact that the nexus 10 can run that game at that crazy resolution is pretty impressive
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Mali is known for it's good (close to console's) graphics and good power too,though it might be still optimization.
Well,at least,nexus 5 still should run it better.
Games,which lag on Mali are just unoptimized (a little). I think,if developers of those games will optimize their games better,Mali will probably won't lag even in today's games.
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Well we'll hope for the best, these new drivers does work though. Graphics performance is kinda better now
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Mali and exynos are ****** trash compared to Qualcomm CPU's and GPU's Slower at everything. And FYI i haven't met a person with a s3 that doesn't lag, if you argue against you obviously don't use your phone to much.. under load, Exynos sucks. It's that simple. Why do you think the i9505 is a hell of alot more popular than the crappy octa core one? Exynos is a mess, Mali is crap too. #rant
Also we don't really need posts comparing video clips from youtube. It's not a thread we like around here. If you don't like lag, get a HTC One or a iphone. I know i'm dumping this samsung trash called the S3 which i use now for a nexus or a HTC One 2014 models..
yeah it snapdragon 2.3ghz to keep up with the 1.9ghz of exynos
Hey there,bull,calm down. S3 doesn't suck. I use it every day heavily and multitasking,RAM management are amazing. Yeah,I agree,S3 lags in all of new games,but there's a reason. Know it? Because it's old already. Soon 2 years will pass since S3 was released and of course new games will lag on such an old device.
So again,calm down there.
Someone needs to chill
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Mali and exynos are ****** trash compared to Qualcomm CPU's and GPU's Slower at everything. And FYI i haven't met a person with a s3 that doesn't lag, if you argue against you obviously don't use your phone to much.. under load, Exynos sucks. It's that simple. Why do you think the i9505 is a hell of alot more popular than the crappy octa core one? Exynos is a mess, Mali is crap too. #rant
Also we don't really need posts comparing video clips from youtube. It's not a thread we like around here. If you don't like lag, get a HTC One or a iphone. I know i'm dumping this samsung trash called the S3 which i use now for a nexus or a HTC One 2014 models..
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Don't be an idiot. The Exynos on the S3 is far superior to the Qualcomm version. The Exynos version had a quad-core CPU vs. dual-core for the Qualcomm version. That's what the OP is talking about and you just sound like an immature little teenager.
On the S4, it's a different story because Samsung's big.LITTLE was poorly implemented on the Exynos. However, on the new Galaxy Note 3, Exynos is just as good, if not better than the Qualcomm 800. And when Samsung updates the chipset with octa-core capability, it has the potential to surpass the competition significantly.
As for your idiotic argument of popularity, Samsung decides which regions will receive Exynos chips based on LTE availability and Qualcomm's licensing restrictions. It's not based on popularity, it's based on patents and licensing costs.
I don't have any lag on my S3 and I happen to like comparisons of different chipsets, even from YouTube. You aren't qualified to speak on everyone's behalf and I appreciate this thread which asks a perfectly fine question.
I think mali and snapdragon are sort of budget type processors whereas qualcomm and exynos(some models) are the higher end of things
Mali=Exynos
Snapdragon=Qualcomm
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Snapdragon=Qualcomm
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What?
Mali is a GPU whereas Exynos is the CPU. The Exynos version of the S4 didn't have a Mali GPU, it had a PowerVR one.
And to whoever said the S3 had perfect RAM management and multitasking: that couldn't be further from the truth.
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What?
Mali is a GPU whereas Exynos is the CPU.
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See post above mine. I was trying to clear up the assumption that Exynos, Qualcomm, Snapdragon and Mali were all different chipsets.
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See post above mine. I was trying to clear up the assumption that Exynos, Qualcomm, Snapdragon and Mali were all different chipsets.
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Yes but you made the wrongful assumption that mali is something that just goes with exynos. Exynos is made by Samsung while Mali is made by ARM and not even by Samsung at all
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Mali and exynos are ****** trash compared to Qualcomm CPU's and GPU's Slower at everything. And FYI i haven't met a person with a s3 that doesn't lag, if you argue against you obviously don't use your phone to much.. under load, Exynos sucks. It's that simple. Why do you think the i9505 is a hell of alot more popular than the crappy octa core one? Exynos is a mess, Mali is crap too. #rant
Also we don't really need posts comparing video clips from youtube. It's not a thread we like around here. If you don't like lag, get a HTC One or a iphone. I know i'm dumping this samsung trash called the S3 which i use now for a nexus or a HTC One 2014 models..
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i own nexus 4 htc one and exynos s3. u re just kidding urself. try gta vice city , san andreas on a adreno phone atleast try on one and nexus 4 im %100 sure they will lag i use one as daily driver. all you will see is lag. i didnt see any game laging on exynos s3 yet. asphalt 8 full graphics s3 30+fps one 20+ fps. because adreno just fails with thermal throtting. and dont realy have great drivers to work with. like on htc one you are playing most wanted working on 30+ fps 15 mins gaming and you will see laging low fps drops to 10 to 20 i tested like every game with fps meter on all 3 phones.
all you are talking about lag is simple fail touchwiz launcher its not about processer or gpu. yes one is runing smoother (2013 phone it should) because sense launcher doesnt get kicked from ram like touchwiz. it doesnt make processor good or bad it just makes launcher is bad. just remove bloatware on a s3 and use nova launcher and make it stay on ram. and you will see lag is gone .
i use this 3 phones like everyday but one most and its not smoother cuz of its processor its about sense. and its worse than exynos s3 on gaming because adreno 320 and 1080p not the best combination.
my girlfriend has nexus 5 and san andreas just lags. mali (Arm) still works better with games adreno just fails on real life performance. im using nexus 4 for 1 year and htc one for 7 months now.
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i own nexus 4 htc one and exynos s3. u re just kidding urself. try gta vice city , san andreas on a adreno phone atleast try on one and nexus 4 im %100 sure they will lag i use one as daily driver. all you will see is lag. i didnt see any game laging on exynos s3 yet. asphalt 8 full graphics s3 30+fps one 20+ fps. because adreno just fails with thermal throtting. and dont realy have great drivers to work with. like on htc one you are playing most wanted working on 30+ fps 15 mins gaming and you will see laging low fps drops to 10 to 20 i tested like every game with fps meter on all 3 phones.
all you are talking about lag is simple fail touchwiz launcher its not about processer or gpu. yes one is runing smoother (2013 phone it should) because sense launcher doesnt get kicked from ram like touchwiz. it doesnt make processor good or bad it just makes launcher is bad. just remove bloatware on a s3 and use nova launcher and make it stay on ram. and you will see lag is gone .
i use this 3 phones like everyday but one most and its not smoother cuz of its processor its about sense. and its worse than exynos s3 on gaming because adreno 320 and 1080p not the best combination.
my girlfriend has nexus 5 and san andreas just lags. mali (Arm) still works better with games adreno just fails on real life performance. im using nexus 4 for 1 year and htc one for 7 months now.
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I dont know wether your results are true or not.But your post make me feel like a proud owner of s3.
Theshawty said:
What?
And to whoever said the S3 had perfect RAM management and multitasking: that couldn't be further from the truth.
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Why so? I have this phone,and I use it everyday,so I know what I'm talking about.
Iqbal Ansari said:
I dont know wether your results are true or not.But your post make me feel like a proud owner of s3.
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He's talking absolute truth,which people don't want to believe to.
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Why so? I have this phone,and I use it everyday,so I know what I'm talking about.
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*sigh*
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*sigh*
:banghead:
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What's up? Maybe I misunderstood something? English isn't my native language,my apologies.