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I have been around since the beginning of android. I Had a G1, then a Nexus One, to a MT4G, and now a Rezound. I rooted every one (minus the rezound obviously) and frequented the forums, learning and discussing the Mod'ing of these devices. As these past years have gone by, I have grown more and more concerned with the direction the community has taken.
Now there has always been at least some drama within the community, but as Android has grown in popularity, and more users seek info in the forums, the drama has ramped up exponentially it seems.
I remember when it was more about info than ego...
My request: Can we please get back to what its really about? Mod'ing, Flashing, and fun. Lets leave our egos at the door, they only do more harm than good. A sense of community and mutual respect is what we should strive for.
No personal insults/attacks be respectful even in disagreements
Don't steal code... give credit where due
Don't be a troll
Don't flame someone just for ignorance (if they seem to be habitual in forum misuse tell a mod so they can investigate and they can handle it appropriately)
Expect nothing, make no demands, ask politely... this goes for all sides
Remember this is a hobby and just for fun for most of us. Replace the fun with drama and what is the point.
I am sure there are other things I could list, but that will do for now.
Edit: resurrected from the dead...
Just so you guys know... Nobody is owed anything. No Dev owes you ROMs, root, or anything else. Vice versa, no user owes a Dev anything for their work. (paid market apps excluded) The rooting community is a hobby based entity. We work on respect and a mutual love of the platform. Donations are voluntary but a good idea. (It makes Devs feel appreciated)
Another thing... Drama... It kills the community. It runs off users and Devs alike. It creates a hostile environment that no one wants to deal with. When a device looses Devs it can be a death nail to the further development for that device.
When you think "just my one little question on ETAs won't be a big deal, I'll PM/IRC/tweet/IM the dev" you have to remember... about 100 other people are thinking the exact same thing. Its one thing to pop in the ROM's thread and if you don't see any activity for several days/a week, to post a quick question like "how is it going?", as dealing one one question and being able to answer publicly so others benefit too is not a big deal... Just don't get upset if the answer is a simple "we are still working on it" Often times there is a lot of effort put in but no real progress to report, no landmark goals yet made.
When you take the ETA/update questions into areas like IM that you start getting several people an hour pestering someone with the same question and it gets old...
^^^^^that's what it should about. But u got so many newbies here (and we all started somewhere of course) it seems as of the trolling and such come from New people not understanding the aspect of the site. But I k.ow I'm wasting my time typi.g his. Hope it happens.
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When I first started coming here, it was all about the phones. Helpful people, friendly community, the works. After a while it just seemed to deteriorate. Every other thread was a flame war. It got to a point where i'd rather rack my brain or scour Google before I'd ask a question in here, because I knew some ego tripping person with no manners was gonna try to flame me for asking a simple question. A little respect/courtesy can go a long way, whether if ur helping someone or being helped.
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Thank you for this post. +1000000000
I would like to see a rule enforced regarding swearing and overly aggressive, or hateful language.
I understand that phones can be frustrating, and so can users. But, if you can't post in a helpful and friendly way, you probably shouldn't post at all.
Temporary (and the threat of permanent) banning should be used to keep those in line who do not have the self control to handle posting in a respectful manner.
I wouldn't worry too much. With the Galaxy Nexus going on sale today, most of the babies crying that they can't unlock/root their Rezound are most likely in line right now to exchange their Rezound for the Galaxy Nexus. That should weed out many of those who do nothing but complain here in the Rezound threads.
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xRogerxC said:
I wouldn't worry too much. With the Galaxy Nexus going on sale today, most of the babies crying that they can't unlock/root their Rezound are most likely in line right now to exchange their Rezound for the Galaxy Nexus. That should weed out many of those who do nothing but complain here in the Rezound threads.
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This should be in the general forum, not a phone specific Forum.
That aside, I agree. This is a forum where the work people do is totally by choice, because they like it as a hobby or for whatever other reasons they may have. It's all about respect and patience, something a lot of people need to remember and practice themselves.
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And by this forum, I mean xda in general.
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I agree, that this is what it should be about again!!! ^^^
300k said:
This should be in the general forum, not a phone specific Forum.
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Not trying to start anything or flame anyone, but isn't it the Mod's job to determine whether a thread is posted in the wrong area and move it accordingly? It just seems that if you come behind someone who took the time to start a thread and tell them that its in the wrong place, you come off like a smart Alec and thus animosity begins. Not saying that u are, just saying some ppl get off on that and only that. Once again, not trying to start anything, just my two pennies.
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Long live the rezound and the people who help others truly understand this great phone.
I'm living on a yellow submarine
It is their job, I was just saying what I think but I realized that I didn't put the phrase "I think " in that first comment. It was and still is a suggestion before some people flame him cause it is in this forum. Also, if he wants to get that message out, its towards the whole community, not just people in the Rezound forums, know what I mean. Didn't mean to sound like a smart Alec ='(.
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300k said:
It is their job, I was just saying what I think but I realized that I didn't put the phrase "I think " in that first comment. It was and still is a suggestion before some people flame him cause it is in this forum. Also, if he wants to get that message out, its towards the whole community, not just people in the Rezound forums, know what I mean. Didn't mean to sound like a smart Alec ='(.
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Yeah I agree. The flamers r in the building!! Lol its cool I think it is a message that needs to be spread forum wide tho. Another thread got shut down due to the things that are addressed in this thread.
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Yeah, I considered putting this in the over all general forum, but I am seeing so much craziness here in the Rezound forums that I thought it was needed here the most. I might throw it up in the Android general section if you guys think I should.
I love this phone, but I am getting impatient for root.
It is mostly the battery life issue. I hate extra batteries with a passion and hate needing to charge during the day as well. I am a light user, I just game a few minutes during breaks, send a few messages through the day and a few random things here and there. I really only have a smartphone for the convenience that it brings and the fact I like the Android OS and followed it since early 2007. With my MT4G even on a heavy use day (for me) I would have 40% left when I went to bed and charged, usually it was around 60%. With the larger screen and dual cores, I don't expect the same, but I know it will be better with cyanogenMOD on it. I can get through the day, but just barely, and that is on my lightest days.
Marine6680 said:
Yeah, I considered putting this in the over all general forum, but I am seeing so much craziness here in the Rezound forums that I thought it was needed here the most. I might throw it up in the Android general section if you guys think I should.
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^Agreed. How Many Members That Are Here(Rezound Forum) Actually Look At The Main xda General Section.
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^Agreed. How Many Members That Are Here(Rezound Forum) Actually Look At The Main xda General Section.
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I very rarely head over there.
I agree 100% with the OP. If people talked to each other like they would if they were sitting next to that person, half of the stuff wouldn't be said. When I drove a truck over the road, we used to call them people "CB Rambos".
Ah the courage that comes with anonymity. Isn't it grand...
#ff
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Marine6680 said:
Ah the courage that comes with anonymity. Isn't it grand...
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Hmm...?? Who Are You Referring About? I Didn't Think I Said Anything Wrong Just Noting About Not Many People In "Here" Read The xda-General. If I Said Something Wrong I Do Apologize There Was No Condescending Intention.
I came to a realization last night. While I used to come to XDA for up to date info, mod information and general discussion involving the Android products I enjoy or are looking forward to...these days I have to sift through so much crap its loosing its luster.
Take the Prime for example. Everyday, people are *****ing and complaining about GPS or Wifi or BT or screen banding or whatever. Here is some advice. Go return your Prime or sell it on EBay or Craigslist to any of the masses that are dying to get their hands on this tablet. It is amusing to read all these threads of individuals taking their Prime so personally as if Asus stole your kids lunch money. If it is not obvious by now, any issue with this tablet are not widespread. My wifi works great, as does BT. GPS doesn't but why would I ever use it on a 10" tablet? That is what my Galaxy Nexus is for.
Long story short, if you are not happy with your purchase, return it and stop wasting my and everyone else's time writing rants about how Asus is evil and wronged you personally. If you made your purchase from a store that doesn't accept returns, then you are an idiot in the first place, but you can always hawk it on eBay or Craigslist. If you have something to add to an issue, by all means continue to post new threads, but 80% of what I am reading sounds like a bunch of 18 years olds complaining that life isn't fair. Welcome to the real world. Return your Primes, move on and relax a bit. Many of us are enjoying this tablet and come here for actual information....not Jersey Shore.
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Considering that most of the big players read these forums this is the perfect place to complain if you want your words noted.
As XDA serves advertising just as much as it serves info and support complaining about complaints or asking us not to is utterly unreasonable.
Anyway, you are just as guilty about *****ing as anyone else, what do you think your post amounted too?
you nailed it.. its daycare for the internetz.
Kids come and stay here for hours bouncing off complaint to complaint
by the time they are done.. they are so tired they just go to bed..
well said.
So wait... the OP came to complain and people complaining... fail
In before the lock!!!
I feel like if anyone wanted to be heard, then they would just contact the manufacturer and then get back to us with anything they say. All of these people are just posting with the hope that doing the least stressful and easy thing (posting here) will fix their gps/wifi/screen problem when really if theres a problem they should just get a new unit or talk to Asus. I don't really mind complaining as much as I do redundant complaining. I know I don't want to hear anything about the gps anymore personally.
Someone Walkin' said:
Considering that most of the big players read these forums this is the perfect place to complain if you want your words noted.
As XDA serves advertising just as much as it serves info and support complaining about complaints or asking us not to is utterly unreasonable.
Anyway, you are just as guilty about *****ing as anyone else, what do you think your post amounted too?
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Fair point. Although maybe people will read it and put their egos aside, return the devices they like to complain about all day long and move on. This post is not to serve my bruised ego like many other posts that I am talking about are.
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You didn't put "your ego aside" and think twice about posting.. like anyone else with an issue, you posted.
Complainer!
I tend to Agree with the OP. This used to be a place about solutions to problems not a place to ***** about them. There is still plenty of useful information here it just is becoming harder and harder to sift through all of the crap to find it.
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So wait... the OP came to complain and people complaining... fail
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True, but you will only see me post this once. Not on every thread like a bunch of users. Stating dissatisfaction once to make a point is one thing....repeating it 10 to 20 times is not.
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Lets add a useless poll to this thread also to make it mean moar!
I for one am extremely happy since ICS with my TFP
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I think people that try to tell people to stop complaining on the internet have not been using the internet long enough.
This is what the internet was made for: Complaining! Well, and Porn.
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You didn't put "your ego aside" and think twice about posting.. like anyone else with an issue, you posted.
Complainer!
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If you can not tell the difference between a pointless self serving post and something like this, the I feel sorry for you. You my like the *****ing...I and others do not. It's simple. Don't like a product, return it and move on. Don't fill up multiple threads acting like Asus hurt your feelings.
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I came to a realization last night. While I used to come to XDA for up to date info, mod information and general discussion involving the Android products I enjoy or are looking forward to...these days I have to sift through so much crap its loosing its luster.
Take the Prime for example. Everyday, people are *****ing and complaining about GPS or Wifi or BT or screen banding or whatever. Here is some advice. Go return your Prime or sell it on EBay or Craigslist to any of the masses that are dying to get their hands on this tablet. It is amusing to read all these threads of individuals taking their Prime so personally as if Asus stole your kids lunch money. If it is not obvious by now, any issue with this tablet are not widespread. My wifi works great, as does BT. GPS doesn't but why would I ever use it on a 10" tablet? That is what my Galaxy Nexus is for.
Long story short, if you are not happy with your purchase, return it and stop wasting my and everyone else's time writing rants about how Asus is evil and wronged you personally. If you made your purchase from a store that doesn't accept returns, then you are an idiot in the first place, but you can always hawk it on eBay or Craigslist. If you have something to add to an issue, by all means continue to post new threads, but 80% of what I am reading sounds like a bunch of 18 years olds complaining that life isn't fair. Welcome to the real world. Return your Primes, move on and relax a bit. Many of us are enjoying this tablet and come here for actual information....not Jersey Shore.
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Can we make a sub-forum for whiners??? This is easily the best Android tablet I've ever used. For quick reference I've have Ipad 1, Xoom 3G, Xoom wifi, Ipad 2, Galaxy Tab 10.1 16GB and now Transformer Prime. Long story as to why I've gone through all those but if anyone is complaining about ICS and Tegra 3 Prime, you need to be humbled with the Xoom on release.
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Can we make a sub-forum for whiners??? This is easily the best Android tablet I've ever used. For quick reference I've have Ipad 1, Xoom 3G, Xoom wifi, Ipad 2, Galaxy Tab 10.1 16GB and now Transformer Prime. Long story as to why I've gone through all those but if anyone is complaining about ICS and Tegra 3 Prime, you need to be humbled with the Xoom on release.
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Haha. Had the Xoom on day one. Right there with you
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I am tired of all the complaints, yes. There are issues, we know of them, Asus knows of them. Yet more threads about how someone is taking their Prime back or canceling their order are just growing tiresome.
We have a rule here about limiting preorder threads to one per country... perhaps we need a rule for limiting ourselves to one complaint thread.
>these days I have to sift through so much crap its loosing its luster.
You do realize that your post is a complaint itself, right?
Ie, given that your post doesn't contain any "up to date info, mod information and general discussion involving the Android products [you] enjoy," it is noise. You are contributing to the problem, as am I and everyone in this thread.
The solution is simple: discriminate. Read what you want, and ignore the rest. There's no law saying you have to read everything. Sift better. It's not anybody's responsibility to make sure you like everything you read.
Yes, noise level is higher. It's a given for any forum once it gets more popular. That's life.
If you want to improve the SNR, contribute. Don't post another ***** thread.
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If you can not tell the difference between a pointless self serving post and something like this, the I feel sorry for you. You my like the *****ing...I and others do not. It's simple. Don't like a product, return it and move on. Don't fill up multiple threads acting like Asus hurt your feelings.
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Your digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole.
NOW your saying that somehow your bithcing is correct and others is not? Your *****ing is superior in some way and different?
I hate to break it to you, but your thread IS "a pointless self serving post". Sorry bro, just own it.
These forums are getting really annoying. Flaming just doesn't stop, WTF? People, is it lack of sex, self reasoning for spending 500 bucks/pounds or else that makes you flame people who are not happy with their prime?
Don't get me wrong, i'm a massive android fan.But some of you are just a plain disgrace to androi fan base. What's wrong with person saying that he didn't like Prime? This and that didn't work for him. So what, he needs to be flamed for that? NO. Someone else might read his post and realise that this is exactly the info he was looking for. So in the end, even negative experience helps someone out in the long run.
I'd like to see a trend where people urge other people not to flame, instead of adding fuel to it. Do you think we can do it?
True if you have a problem or need help then this is the XDA developers forum, however its not the complaining and frustration forum. If one is unhappy with his product let him take it to the manufacturer or dealer and write his review to a review forum.
Blackwidowman said:
True if you have a problem or need help then this is the XDA developers forum, however its not the complaining and frustration forum. If one is unhappy with his product let him take it to the manufacturer or dealer and write his review to a review forum.
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So, you are saying that if on is happy with his prime, he's allowed to post his review here, but if he is not happy - getta hell out of here?
Nope Im saying this is a developers forum! That you like or hate your product doesnt help in developing.
No, this is general forum. This is where people share news, opinions, ideas etc...
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Well you got me! I was pretty sure it said XDA developers on the top of the page me bad.
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Well you got me! I was pretty sure it said XDA developers on the top of the page me bad.
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+1 for reading comprehension, -2 for actually understanding.
There is a Developer subforum for EVERY device with an XDA forum.
People come to General for a given device to help make a decision to buy or not. Also to look for solutions to known issues, or to post a new issue and get help.
Don't get me wrong, it's great to be enthused about a device. It's great to happy with your device.
It is, however, idiotic (or at best immature) to stick your fingers in your ears and go "Lalalalala, can't hear you" when there are obviously a plethora of issues with a given device, or an advertised feature that doesn't work up to standard specs.
Point taken, IMO its not constructive, I guess then there is no issues, lets the complaining, flamming and bad mouthing go on, it is the General subforum
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Point taken, IMO its not constructive, I guess then there is no issues, lets the complaining, flamming and bad mouthing go on, it is the General subforum
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Mindless, rampant flaming is as pointless and non-constructive as mindless, rampant fanboi-ism.
Many of us are on XDA because we want to get the most out of our gadgets.
Others just to have high tech toys to play with.
The difference in mindset between these two types of people is what causes the conflicts.
Understanding (note I do not say "tolerance" <spits to clear bad taste from mouth>) each other's mindset will go a long way towards preventing conflicts.
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Point taken, IMO its not constructive, I guess then there is no issues, lets the complaining, flamming and bad mouthing go on, it is the General subforum
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Weird, the whole point of my post was to make people think about it and stop all the flaming and bad mouthing. Trolls are trolls, and they have to be stopped, but there are a lot of post with constructive criticism, and guys posting them deserve to be able voice their opinion without flaming and "cool story bro" bull****.
IMHO, only IMHO but i hope you guys stop for a second and think.
Key word is FANBOYISM. Some of Android fans are just as bad if not worse than iOS fanboys.
There should be one complaint thread. I think the whole issue is being brought about because of the repeats of the same complaints about the tablet. Every bad review says the exact same thing.
I do agree with you though. The flaming needs to stop.
Sure, Prime has its problems.
But I compare Prime with Xoom, SGT 10.1 that I've used so does Prime better.
Do you see that these users are complaining and creates threads to the right and left? No.
both Xoom, SGT 10.1 has been really buggy and has not worked completely 100
All products with android have problems and bugs.
When I buy an android product I am aware that there will be bugs and that sometimes you will feel like a beta tester.
People must remember that both Tegra 3 and ICS is new and requires testing.
Asus makes a really good job with support and are quick updates. there is no manufacturer that is as quick to update, and support their units as Asus.
XDA used to be the place to turn to for help and to learn new things.
Now drown community of **** posts and TROLL
Do not like Prime to take it back to the store. And you do not need tell the whole world that you left it back either.
BREATHE and think before posting.
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Sure, Prime has its problems.
But I compare Prime with Xoom, SGT 10.1 that I've used so does Prime better.
Do you see that these users are complaining and creates threads to the right and left? No.
both Xoom, SGT 10.1 has been really buggy and has not worked completely 100
All products with android have problems and bugs.
When I buy an android product I am aware that there will be bugs and that sometimes you will feel like a beta tester.
People must remember that both Tegra 3 and ICS is new and requires testing.
Asus makes a really good job with support and are quick updates. there is no manufacturer that is as quick to update, and support their units as Asus.
XDA used to be the place to turn to for help and to learn new things.
Now drown community of **** posts and TROLL
Do not like Prime to take it back to the store. And you do not need tell the whole world that you left it back either.
BREATHE and think before posting.
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there we go, perfect example of flaming... This needs to stop.
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There should be one complaint thread. I think the whole issue is being brought about because of the repeats of the same complaints about the tablet. Every bad review says the exact same thing.
I do agree with you though. The flaming needs to stop.
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Why should there be one complaint thread for many types of complaints? One thread for GPS, one thread for lightbleed, one thread for WiFi, etc, etc I find reasonable. And usually there is. If someone posts a new thread they are usually civilly directed to the existing thread on the subject, where all the available info is in one spot.
And even then I would find it reasonable if someone is having an issue out of the ordinary with any of the current issues.
And I have no issues with each RMA horror story in a separate thread either. People need to know about this and not have it glossed over.
Guys cool down man^^
Ask yourself, why do you make a post? Whats the motivation behind it? Do you post out of frustration, because you're angry? Or just because you want to tell someone that he's an idiot?
These are all the wrong motivations in my opinion. There is one thing i really dont understand. Why can't people check the first 1-2 pages of a forum before they make their own thread?
Neither flaming nor whining is constructiv in any way. GPS problems exist, but posting it in every 2nd thread wont make those problems go away.
This forums are here (imho) to find solutions and reporting issues is important. But whining is not reporting an issue. And flaming is not giving a solution. Its just wasting anyone's time. If you report something, give as much info as you can and try it out in any possible situation before posting here. Then wait for answers or check later if a fix has been found.
And I dont want to flame or anything but everytime i see someone posting only to whine and tell us that he will return this stinking thing an image pops into my head:
A child that has just gotten a lollipop but realizing that its not his favorite flavour.
I love mine but it does have small problems.
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there we go, perfect example of flaming... This needs to stop.
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Not really. That is someone disagreeing with your assessment and you over reacting. Some of us like the TP and are tired of the repetitive posts that add nothing new to the discussion.
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I agree with OP and I'll add that the Prime has been such a disaster it does deserve it's own category of negative/problems because the list sure does go on and on and on....... then fanboys could stay out and stop crying.
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Flaming just doesn't stop, WTF? People, is it lack of sex, self reasoning for spending 500 bucks/pounds or else that makes you flame people...
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Do you appreciate the irony here?
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I think there are good points on both sides. It is a development forum but this is the general section. IMO the bottom line is why post a story about your experiences, issues, and going to give up a device, when a post with almost the exact same thing, same issues, same receive date, etc is 2 posts above yours. Post it in the same thread or risk teasing, at least about it being so "12 seconds ago"
edit opps repeated what cloud5 said 2 posts up.
reedit: In fact where people post a new issue, whether leaving the prime or not there is generally no flaming or teasing like the hot pixel thread earlier today.
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Do you appreciate the irony here?
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yep 10 chars
In short, was it worth it? YES! I was able to sell my TF101 and dock so that a TF201 and dock only cost me $200 out of pocket. The upgrades are well worth it....
-Everything is quicker including all home scrolling, loading apps, recent apps list scrolling, keyboard typing (no lag at all in chrome!)
-The thinness and weight is noticeable
-Keyboard docking feels more quality (latch)
-Keyboard keys feel more quality, tacky; not as plasticy
-Screen quality is slightly better
-Overall build is great, not creaky
Just a few initial thoughts...... I loved my TF101, don't get me wrong. I used it soooooo much. I'm glad I upgraded. I can't wait for the next one. I hope I can use this dock with the TF700 or whatever it will be called!
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In short, was it worth it? YES! I was able to sell my TF101 and dock so that a TF201 and dock only cost me $200 out of pocket. The upgrades are well worth it....
-Everything is quicker including all home scrolling, loading apps, recent apps list scrolling, keyboard typing (no lag at all in chrome!)
-The thinness and weight is noticeable
-Keyboard docking feels more quality (latch)
-Keyboard keys feel more quality, tacky; not as plasticy
-Screen quality is slightly better
-Overall build is great, not creaky
Just a few initial thoughts...... I loved my TF101, don't get me wrong. I used it soooooo much. I'm glad I upgraded. I can't wait for the next one. I hope I can use this dock with the TF700 or whatever it will be called!
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Same situation here! I sold my 32gb TF101 and dock and purchased the TF201. Huge improvement, all problems aside.
I love gummy bears.
Nice walks on the beach without shoes.
Hate sand in my bum.
While I applaud your enthusiasm and congrats on the purchase....the comparison has been done way before you got yours and not to be a ..well a poopie head...but this thread doesn't divulge anything we don't already know and actually clogs up the threads.
Please don't take this as a personal attack but more of a friendly chat to remind people and myself not to make needless threads...
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I love gummy bears.
Nice walks on the beach without shoes.
Hate sand in my bum.
While I applaud your enthusiasm and congrats on the purchase....the comparison has been done way before you got yours and not to be a ..well a poopie head...but this thread doesn't divulge anything we don't already know and actually clogs up the threads.
Please don't take this as a personal attack but more of a friendly chat to remind people and myself not to make needless threads...
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Like.
monkeyboywa said:
I love gummy bears.
Nice walks on the beach without shoes.
Hate sand in my bum.
While I applaud your enthusiasm and congrats on the purchase....the comparison has been done way before you got yours and not to be a ..well a poopie head...but this thread doesn't divulge anything we don't already know and actually clogs up the threads.
Please don't take this as a personal attack but more of a friendly chat to remind people and myself not to make needless threads...
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Now don't take this the wrong way as i applaud your enthusiasm. But if you don't like his thread why not skip it and shut the hell up. Its the general section about the prime. Who gives a **** if someone makes a thread stating they like the tf201 that replaced their tf101. Does this in some way affect you? No it doesn't. And no, it doesn't clog up threads.
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Now don't take this the wrong way as i applaud your enthusiasm. But if you don't like his thread why not skip it and shut the hell up. Its the general section about the prime. Who gives a **** if someone makes a thread stating they like the tf201 that replaced their tf101. Does this in some way affect you? No it doesn't. And no, it doesn't clog up threads.
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I like this
monkeyboywa said:
While I applaud your enthusiasm and congrats on the purchase....the comparison has been done way before you got yours and not to be a ..well a poopie head...but this thread doesn't divulge anything we don't already know and actually clogs up the threads.
Please don't take this as a personal attack but more of a friendly chat to remind people and myself not to make needless threads...
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Normally, I'd agree with you. But since everybody and their cousin is making new redundant negative threads, why not some new redundant positive threads to counter them? If one goes to any of those negative threads and makes the point about unnecessary redundant posts, one gets flamed as a "fanboy." So, I say, what's good for the goose...
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Now don't take this the wrong way as i applaud your enthusiasm. But if you don't like his thread why not skip it and shut the hell up. Its the general section about the prime. Who gives a **** if someone makes a thread stating they like the tf201 that replaced their tf101. Does this in some way affect you? No it doesn't. And no, it doesn't clog up threads.
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does it affect me? sure..cuz you post crap.."i like the prime" well duh. otherwise you wouldn't have purchased it.
Does it hurt me? no but having to read your rebuttal about "shutting the hell up" your thread does nothing..NOTHING to further the spirit of this forum. why not skip it? how can i when you posted this for no reason but to say what was an already given by your purchase.
And next time..i suggest you maybe use a bit more tacit when replying..and "shut the help up" is just plain rude and ignorant of conversation.
So, kindly refrain from being rude or go sell your prime and get off these forums which are for people wanting to learn about the device itself and not your preference for technology..and go listen to more Hanson.
Wow, looks like the hall monitor got his feelings hurt.....
Ha, "hall monitor"... that's exactly what some people are on this forum. I don't understand why they think they have balls, when clearly they don't.
Anyway, back on topic, just like this thread was when I created it! This is perhaps something I should post in the OG TF forum as well. I was on the fence like many, but wasn't sure. I had posted a thread a while back asking if I should jump ship, and didn't find too many threads on others who had done so.
It has Begun. People who satisfied with Prime n such will make new threads also constantly just like the negative ones. What's useless is 80 negative threads on exact same issue. Now that's what useless. Negative complaint threads either start consolidating or more n more like this one will pop up n easily push negative threads down. Don't get us started..lmao. this section of xda is so funny. Like a soap opera up here all day everyday. SMH
CANT WE ALL JUST......GET ALONG.... LMFAO
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does it affect me? sure..cuz you post crap.."i like the prime" well duh. otherwise you wouldn't have purchased it.
Does it hurt me? no but having to read your rebuttal about "shutting the hell up" your thread does nothing..NOTHING to further the spirit of this forum. why not skip it? how can i when you posted this for no reason but to say what was an already given by your purchase.
And next time..i suggest you maybe use a bit more tacit when replying..and "shut the help up" is just plain rude and ignorant of conversation.
So, kindly refrain from being rude or go sell your prime and get off these forums which are for people wanting to learn about the device itself and not your preference for technology..and go listen to more Hanson.
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Ok boy wonder. Read the thread. I didn't make the original post. I could care less if he makes a post stating his prime is better then his original transformer. I'm sorry you won't get your 10 seconds of your awesome life back for reading the post. I'm sure it took more time to make your response to the thread then to actually read it and hit the back button. But you know, it's so detrimental to XDA that there is one more useless post in the general section of the Prime forum.
And like my post, your post did NOTHING to further the spirit of this forum. Your post was just as rude and unneeded as mine. Don't act like you're some better person. If there's a thread you don't like, don't respond. It'll get moved down the list and you can go back to enjoying your life that was ruined by a useless post on XDA.
And MMMMMMBop! (I think that's hanson anway)
Monkeyboywa, if this thread doesnt interest you just skip it. I for one am interested in what people feel the diferences are in the 101 ans 201. I am on my 2nd prime and have been trying to decide weather to bail out and go with the 101. So, I got a 101 and have been comparing them for a week trying to decide . What I have found so far is the wifi on the 101 is only 10% better than my 201 ( maybe I got a good prime as far as wifi), but in all else except gps the 201 excells. Video quality is close but I can see the 201 is sharper. So , my feeling at this point that giving up the prime for a 10%improvement in wifi isnt worth it
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Monkeyboywa, if this thread doesnt interest you just skip it. I for one am interested in what people feel the diferences are in the 101 ans 201. I am on my 2nd prime and have been trying to decide weather to bail out and go with the 101. So, I got a 101 and have been comparing them for a week trying to decide . What I have found so far is the wifi on the 101 is only 10% better than my 201 ( maybe I got a good prime as far as wifi), but in all else except gps the 201 excells. Video quality is close but I can see the 201 is sharper. So , my feeling at this point that giving up the prime for a 10%improvement in wifi isnt worth it
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Your analysis and decision would be the same for me if I was deciding on going back to the TF or hadn't had the TF first. I know after having the TF101 that I couldn't go back.... the improvements are well worth it for me.
Even just typing this right now is so much better on the 201 than the 101.
man..i'm glad I got one too. differently smaller and more streamlined then my old tf101.
I swear it seems faster to. I mean..i'm sooo glad i got it.
It has bad gps..but really who bought this for the ability to find out from google maps where you are?
My wifi is really good too especially with the new .13 patch. The screen has a small bleed problem and one burnt pixel but that's a fry cry from the 1x3in dead zone i had on my first atp.
That better?
Hall monitor? I suppose so when you have people that decide to chime in about nothing..but then again.
Seriously guys, if you want to start this into a flame fest...then go somewhere else. if you want to post..post..but all I said was these forums are already clogged with "omgzogthisisbetterthansex" or "wtfimmasueeveryoneincludingthebabydownthestreet" comments.
Know one good thing about this thread? i dont have to worry about it ever again...going where people actually are contributing.
Had a TF201 for 13days, owned a TF101 that I sold just prior to the Prime purchase. Thankfully I was able to purchase the TF101 back at the same price. The TF201 may very well yet become a great device, time will tell if Asus can get the updates/fixes out, but aside from that IMHO the Prime has some design flaws (ie the MicroSD slot, the full metal jacket, the single speaker) I think many have got way too excited over ICS. Anyone that has used HC I think will not see any huge differance, for all those cell phones on GB sure it's a huge leap forward, but for anyone that has had a tf101 it's a minor update. For me the TF201 is not worth a $250 out of pocket upgrade over the TF101. Before anyone questions the math I had sold my tf101 with dock for $450, and I figure that a tf201 plus dock would come in at about $700
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Now don't take this the wrong way as i applaud your enthusiasm. But if you don't like his thread why not skip it and shut the hell up. Its the general section about the prime. Who gives a **** if someone makes a thread stating they like the tf201 that replaced their tf101. Does this in some way affect you? No it doesn't. And no, it doesn't clog up threads.
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goodbye monkeyboywawa I wont miss you ----talk about usless posts clogging up the forum-
Now back on topic. 101 or 201 this decision is harder than I thought. I replaced my 32gb 201 wth a 64gb because I toasted a 32gb card because of the crap design of the card slot. That and the 32 had really weak wifi
So adding a card to increase memory is impractical unless you get a case that covers the slot. So the 64 201 is $150 more than a 101 + 32gb card. That is enough to buy a dock--- Im not 100% sure the performance boost of the 201 is worth it for what I am going to be using the tablet for. I am, however, noticing a definate lag in response in typing this note on the 101 as opposed to typing on the 201 and its anoying
. Also last night while comparing identical youtube videos side by side the 101 loaded up to 4 sec after the 201 even though I tapped the 101 first. These are both probably a result of the better processor in the 201
All in all I am having a hard time making up my mind
"HURR DURR THE IPAD IS BETTER IM A TROLL LOL!!!!"
Why do people keep posting this? I wish there was a mass reply button that said "COOL STORY BRO" to all of these people. This is a transformer prime forum. Not a comparison forum. Stuff like that should go into XDA general and stuff about buying in some other part of XDA. There are so many ****posts around here that I just can't believe it. Once again, THIS IS A TRANSFORMER PRIME FORUM. Thank you.
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I agree. I understand the position that the people who wish to express their dissatisfaction with a product, or to compare it to another, would find this the appropriate forum for such discourse.
But seriously, stroll around some other halo device forums (albeit I concede the title of "halo product" is almost ironic with the Prime given the imminent TF701) and see if they're littered with crappy threads. For the most part? No, they're not. They're where people have discussions about their product that are beneficial for the community to read.
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"HURR DURR THE IPAD IS BETTER IM A TROLL LOL!!!!"
Why do people keep posting this? I wish there was a mass reply button that said "COOL STORY BRO" to all of these people. This is a transformer prime forum. Not a comparison forum. Stuff like that should go into XDA general and stuff about buying in some other part of XDA. There are so many ****posts around here that I just can't believe it. Once again, THIS IS A TRANSFORMER PRIME FORUM. Thank you.
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I completely agree. I posted something similar in the "Why I left my Prime " thread. I could care less why people leave their Prime or why they feel that the iPad is better. One comparison thread here and there is fine but people are starting this conversation in threads off topic or creating multiple thread topics. Enough already. If I wanted to know about the iPad, I'd go elsewhere or read reviews. I don't buy for an instant that the "former Prime" owners are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts to "inform" us. Again, I could care less and this is NOT why I come to a place like this. I come for community and for device specific advice and device specific software. Period. Seriously, don't these "former Prime " owners have something better to do? Apparently not. The iPad must not be that exciting and stellar of a device if they find the need to expend energy and time comparing it to another device which they recently left.
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I think people are just butthurt that they don't have the best tablet anymore.
Well, some of the poster might just be trolls, trying to get a rise out of a situaion
Other might be real people with real grievance.
And the third group, would be paid professional "troll" by competator to slant or share false information to get more sale for their product.
As the TF prime is the flagship for the Nvidia Tegra 3 for the Android platform it's the #1 target for competitor.
Popular opinion to ban these posts permanently?
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With apple products the discussion usually resembles a religious discussion. These products mean sooo much more to people than they should.
I hate that this forum has turn into a whiner's circlejerk.
like seriously, if all they're going to post about is how they hate the transformer prime and want to return it, then return it and leave this forum. If they can't - then they should have considered that before buying it.
if you're not searching for solutions then quit posting about problems.
Ditto, every time i log in to the forum its very disheartening to have to wade through tons of negative posts in order to find something interesting. Looking forward to the day it calms down...
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Seriously this guy needed to start a thread for that... Boo hoo 1-2% loss means your battery will die in 50 days. I'm sorry your standby isnt a decade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557536
People are more inclined to complain on their soapbox then to praise. I love my Prime and don't have any real complaints about it.
EDIT: Returning tomorrow. Just had my first issue, I enabled bluetooth and it killed my WiFi until I disabled it and re-enabled it. That is completely unacceptable. (if you cant tell I'm joking, well join the trolls.)
I just can't deal with the preassure, ugh.. I'm getting a new iPad. Thanks Prime forum.
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bye bye to everyone who has moved on from prime. good luck. i am sure ur new device will be great!
appreciate, if u dont come back to this forum and spoil it for the ppl who love their primes.
its a win-win situation.!
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I don't think there is anything wrong with havinga thread or two, as for the rest just don't post/respond in them they'll dissapear from the front page quickly.
Uberchu said:
I think people are just butthurt that they don't have the best tablet anymore.
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mods should automatically lock a thread once people start posting stupid like this one
I think these TP forums are worst that I have ever seen here. Even the SGS2 forums didnt have this much crap talk about SGS2 vs. iPhone 4S.
I have just ordered my TP and was going to check the forums for something interesting to read. First page of this general section is about iPad or iOS. Dont they have their own forum to discuss about things or what the **** is this?
yeah not sure wtf is going on, I came from a xoom and those forums on here were filled with quality useful post. Not *****ing and whining from the same 15-20 people filling this whole forum up with bs. Plus you got people just coming in to troll because they don't get laid in the the real world.
To answer the OPs question, it's because the people who had real issues and posted about them offended the fanbois in here. So the fanbois started a whole bunch of retaliatory posts of why the Prime is so good and how the people with technical problems were just a bunch of whiners.
So now it's come back full circle to where the people who had problems with their Primes make posts and threads mocking the fanbois.
Solution? Ignore all the lame posts and let them sink down the drain into oblivion.
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Ditto, every time i log in to the forum its very disheartening to have to wade through tons of negative posts in order to find something interesting. Looking forward to the day it calms down...
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This should tell you something
I feel bad for people that ASUS has mislead, truthfully. I loved my prime, I loved the design, the idea of everything about it. Then I got it, played with it, tested it and was extremely disappointed. The quality lacks, enough said.
The reason there is so much negativity is because the Prime, as a product, is lacking for something that if done right, could have been a game changer. The game changer is what everyone expected, is what ASUS advertised, and is what did not deliver. I had to sell mine, almost out of principle. I was very upset in doing so, it could've been so much more.
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mods should automatically lock a thread once people start posting stupid like this one
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I thought that too, but I think what he is saying is that Apple people are upset they don't have the best tablet any more, not prime owners.
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This should tell you something
I feel bad for people that ASUS has mislead, truthfully. I loved my prime, I loved the design, the idea of everything about it. Then I got it, played with it, tested it and was extremely disappointed. The quality lacks, enough said.
The reason there is so much negativity is because the Prime, as a product, is lacking for something that if done right, could have been a game changer. The game changer is what everyone expected, is what ASUS advertised, and is what did not deliver. I had to sell mine, almost out of principle. I was very upset in doing so, it could've been so much more.
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This is an example of someone with a bum unit and is upset... I have had mine 2 months now and wifi is fine screen is fine gps is weak but locks quick (not that i would use a 10.1 inch tablet in my car to navigate lol), if you don't have one anymore why are you in this forum anymore? Not everyone gets a bad device get over it.