Hey guys...
The goal is to connect/mirror my tablet to a HDTV wirelessly without a HDMI cord anyone know/recommend a product that would allow this process efficiently? Thanks!
Canious said:
Hey guys...
The goal is to connect/mirror my tablet to a HDTV wirelessly without a HDMI cord anyone know/recommend a product that would allow this process efficiently? Thanks!
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I've been meaning to ask the same question... I can't find and WHDMI kits for micro HDMI ports, and even the full-sized ones are bulky I'm hoping there's a better alternative that using a full sized one with a converter...
Currently I can't think of any products that I'd recommend or advocate.
WHDI is the technology currently being backed by several manufacturers as being "the answer" to High Definition streaming, but currently the number of compatible devices is exceptionally low.
The only product that I can come up with that is even close to what you're after would be this:
www(dot)galaxywhdi(dot)com/Product4(dot)aspx
You'd need a micro-HDMI->HDMI dongle as well and I'm not 100% sure it's compatible with Android devices, I'm not capable of checking from my work desk.
Squiggle said:
Currently I can't think of any products that I'd recommend or advocate.
WHDI is the technology currently being backed by several manufacturers as being "the answer" to High Definition streaming, but currently the number of compatible devices is exceptionally low.
The only product that I can come up with that is even close to what you're after would be this:
www(dot)galaxywhdi(dot)com/Product4(dot)aspx
You'd need a micro-HDMI->HDMI dongle as well and I'm not 100% sure it's compatible with Android devices, I'm not capable of checking from my work desk.
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Thanks for the advice, but personally that device is way too hefty for me, and probably too expensive too.
I'm just about to move and am fine connecting my prime to the tv in the lounge using a cable, but that's not going to work in the bedroom. As I need to buy a TV anyway, would some sort of smart/wifi tv offer a (streaming/rdp) solution?
AppleTV is the only consumer product that I have heard of that provides this ability using Airplay Mirroring.
I recently read that there is a solution in beta that feigns Airplay onto Android devices, but I highly doubt it actually has mirroring, and can only be specific to iTunes supported media formats.
I only wish that Roku follows up on this idea and implements it into some of their models. Being able to directly compete w/ Apple at not just using streaming channels like Netflix but provide WiFi streaming from Android devices would be an instant hit.
Now when Google TV actually hits consumer hardware, you should be able to use something like iMedia Share to stream between two android devices. I stream my videos and music wirelessly to my PS3 using iMediaShare and it works pretty well, just doesn't have many options. All it really does is sets up a media server between the Prime and PS3. Luckily, the PS3 handles media servers very well.
Hey everybody. I just ordered a Touch pad and am excited to hear about some of the adjustments you guys have made here to increase speed and overall functionality of the tablet.
In looking at the spec sheet it appears that there are no card slots so I can't use a micro SD or an SD card. I also don't see an HDMI out so I guess that I can't hook up the tablet to my TV can I?
Thanks!
No, unfortunately you are stuck with only using the internal storage. As far as I know, the only way to connect your table to a tv would be through DLNA, but not all televisions support it.
Thanks, I'll have to try DLNA. I might even look into Google TV. I believe that's what it's called.
I've been able to play video and audio from my home server on the Touchpad, but am not sure a DLNA capable TV would "see" the touchpad and any content on it. Anyone have a DLNA capable TV to test?
mejorguille said:
No, unfortunately you are stuck with only using the internal storage. As far as I know, the only way to connect your table to a tv would be through DLNA, but not all televisions support it.
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Well, technically you still get 50GB with Box.net with your HP TouchPad.
It works. I downloaded allshare player from the market and launched it. Now when i check dlna devices on my tv, cm tenderloin showed up and was able to play music and vids.
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I've been able to play video and audio from my home server on the Touchpad, but am not sure a DLNA capable TV would "see" the touchpad and any content on it. Anyone have a DLNA capable TV to test?
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Mickeylittle said:
Hey everybody. I just ordered a Touch pad and am excited to hear about some of the adjustments you guys have made here to increase speed and overall functionality of the tablet.
In looking at the spec sheet it appears that there are no card slots so I can't use a micro SD or an SD card. I also don't see an HDMI out so I guess that I can't hook up the tablet to my TV can I?
Thanks!
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If you really need external storage there is always this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433667.
Thanks everyone. I can't wait till Friday when this Touch pad arrives. I'm selling my ipad 2 and I'm sending my Transformer Prime in RMA as soon as my TP gets here.
Yes, my wife calls me an Electronic Slut! But it's what I do. I'm really excited about Web OS! Especially now that it is open sourced!
Thanks again!
Hey there,
Ive bought the Prime with 64gbs, and added a SD with another 64gb. So Ive got storage enough for a few time of HD videos to watch on the go. Also I take a mini HDMI and boy, that works great. The Prime doesnt struggle at all even playing 1080p through the HDMI port also sends the sound to the tv AWESOME. (I dont know if it sends the sound as 5.1 since the hotels i usually go they dont equip my room with 5.1 sound what a shame).
Now, im staring at my Prime wishing I could control it using my laptop or my SGS2. Is there any app that allows me to do that? just like the XBMC on the pc, that gives me access the library, and control the whole experience using the XBMC remote on the play market?
Just for the record - you do know you can connect an external hard drive to the Prime via the USB dongle or port on the dock?
Even better, it can be formatted FAT32, exFAT and (amazingly) NTFS. I would recommend a drive case with an external powersupply though - although I've been able to power almost anything I throw at the dock (not so much the Prime on its own).
As for controlling the Prime as a media player - I have to be honest here - you're kind of doing it the "wrong" way around.. usually, you'd get a cheap PC (like an Acer Revo) and add a TV tuner and use that as an HTPC, then use the Prime to control it - so you're kind of swimming upstream...
But, given the relative power of a Prime, I'd be surprised if XBMC doesn't come to it.. although I do have to point out - VLC has taken a LONG time to get to Android and they are working on it... so it may be a problem with the Android OS that's holding it back.
Update: Checked the home wiki for XBMC for Android - and there is just such a project - but it's not even in the starting phases yet. As I expected. the problem is that it requires a lot of work to get some of the code into Android.
There are quite few remote apps on the android market that will do what you want to do. With apps like MV Player, it will play anything you throw at it. It works great when you want to kick back and watch something from your tablet. HTPCs are kind of going the way of the dinosaur IMO with gaming consoles and things like Airplay, mini and regular HDMI ports, and Intel's WiDi technology continuing to improve on powerful mobile devices.
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I've looked at what's out there, although the sticks themselves look really small it appears that most of them need (obviously) external power as well as some kind of remote which I'm guessing would be bulky. Is there anything that can be controlled without a keyboard/mouse? Can it be controlled with another Android device?
Unlike most people, who seem to want to use the devices at home for Netflix/cordcutting purposes, I actually want one I could keep in my bag with some kind of storage (SD or USB) full of movies so I could watch them wherever I've got an HDMI screen.
Portability is important, but so is playback of local files. I care less about streaming. Ideally the device would support playing everything up to MKV direct blu-ray rips with subtitles (really critical that subtitles work). Are these android sticks fast enough to do that kind of thing off USB smoothly, with mxplayer or something?
I purchased Minix Neo G4. It plays everything including 1080p mkv via WiFi (150N).
bkam84 said:
I've looked at what's out there, although the sticks themselves look really small it appears that most of them need (obviously) external power as well as some kind of remote which I'm guessing would be bulky. Is there anything that can be controlled without a keyboard/mouse? Can it be controlled with another Android device?
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This is a reason I went with the MK802IIIS....I can use my smart phone to control..
Remember that (most of) these sticks won't do (as the software can't) dts/ac3 passthrough over HDMI.
So expect to be using only 2.0 stereo over hdmi.
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This is a reason I went with the MK802IIIS....I can use my smart phone to control..
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can u use your web browser from phone and see it on the TV ?
i am not meaning to the You Tube Aplication And Etc' i mean really web browse to ANY site from the phone and seeing it on the TV?
and if u can with the minix neo g5 u can do it to???
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can u use your web browser from phone and see it on the TV ?
i am not meaning to the You Tube Aplication And Etc' i mean really web browse to ANY site from the phone and seeing it on the TV?
and if u can with the minix neo g5 u can do it to???
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Are you talking about having the android stick mirror what is on your phone? I don't think so. Some phones with HDMI out can plug into the HDMI port on the TV and mirror.
When people talk about controlling the android stick with their phone, it means they can use their phone as essentially a touchscreen. The stick should be able to browse to any website that you can browse to on your phone. Unless you've got some kind of restrictions on your router. In that case if your phone is rooted, tether off your phone.
neo g4 come with a remote, that makes it more portable to me
hi guys,
I need a media player and rather than get a wdtv live, i'm thinking of purchasing an android stick as it has the bonus of apps etc.
I've seen loads of different sticks, such as MK808, MK809, MK809ii, MK809iii, MK908.
To be perfectly honest, I'm confused as to which is the BEST stick in terms of hardware/stability/software.
I want to be able to watch hd movies, play games and connect external storage. such as usb stick or hdd.
Which make/model is the latest so far? What can you recommend?
cx-919 IMO
thank you for your prompt reply insomnia. I do apologise, but i've never heard of it as the one's i've heard of are the "MK" models. What's so special about this one and how is it different from the rest? Is it more faster than the MK models? What about Raspberry PI?
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thank you for your prompt reply insomnia. I do apologise, but i've never heard of it as the one's i've heard of are the "MK" models. What's so special about this one and how is it different from the rest? Is it more faster than the MK models? What about Raspberry PI?
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cx918 and mk908 are from the new generation of pen-TV based on RK3188 chip, all the others you cited in yur original message are based on RK3066 chip.
RK3188 is a 1.6-1.8ghz quad core chip, RK3066 is a 1.2-1.5ghz dual core chip, thus the first is a lot faster.
cx918 has a slightly better wifi than mk908.
Rasperry PI is A LOT less powerfull than both but its also a lot better optimized so it actually outperform both sometimes.
Thank you very much NixZero.
I think the first thing I need to do is decide if I want an Android Mini PC or Raspberry Pi or a dedicated Media Player.
My main concern is Movies - I'm looking for a device which can play almost anything you throw at it and can play HD resolutions smoothly. My understanding here is that a dedicated media player such as the WDTV live would be the best choice. But as you can understand, I want more and therefore the option for installing games/apps would be an added bonus.
So next I need to decide between a Raspberry Pi or an Android Mini PC...assuming it's been optimised, which one is the best?
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Thank you very much NixZero.
I think the first thing I need to do is decide if I want an Android Mini PC or Raspberry Pi or a dedicated Media Player.
My main concern is Movies - I'm looking for a device which can play almost anything you throw at it and can play HD resolutions smoothly. My understanding here is that a dedicated media player such as the WDTV live would be the best choice. But as you can understand, I want more and therefore the option for installing games/apps would be an added bonus.
So next I need to decide between a Raspberry Pi or an Android Mini PC...assuming it's been optimised, which one is the best?
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for movie playing, PI - rk3066 based ones struggles with 1080p content and rk3188 ones firmware still are pretty green while Pi's excellent hardware acceleration implementation plays even 1080p high rate content without any problem.
for some games/apps PI is a bit underpowered while RK3188 is a pretty powerfull chip, better than tegra 3 or samsung exynos 4412 (not at snapdragon 4 or cortex A15 level tho).
Pi has a perfect linux implementation while RK ones are still at an early stage.
not easy to chose, each has its strong and low points.
at least they are cheap.
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for movie playing, PI - rk3066 based ones struggles with 1080p content and rk3188 ones firmware still are pretty green while Pi's excellent hardware acceleration implementation plays even 1080p high rate content without any problem.
for some games/apps PI is a bit underpowered while RK3188 is a pretty powerfull chip, better than tegra 3 or samsung exynos 4412 (not at snapdragon 4 or cortex A15 level tho).
Pi has a perfect linux implementation while RK ones are still at an early stage.
not easy to chose, each has its strong and low points.
at least they are cheap.
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Well in that case it leaves me with a dilemma. Just to clarify, I would be more than happy to stick with 720p movies as it's mainly for kids (whom can't tell the difference between 720p or 1080p, lol!), if the R3188 can handle them smoothly...what would you say? If it definately can handle them smoothly, then what about compatibility of file formats?
File formats should all work. Even at 1080p. If not there is always the play store and MX player has run everything I've thrown at it on my $20 MK802
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File formats should all work. Even at 1080p. If not there is always the play store and MX player has run everything I've thrown at it on my $20 MK802
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Thanks plznote. You said your MK802 has ran everything you've thrown at it, which is great, but what about smoothness of movie playback in 720p???
Also note the Pi won't play netflix movies, at all
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Also note the Pi won't play netflix movies, at all
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I don't watch netflix movies...it's mainly mkv, mp4 and youtube videos.
So what is 720p movie playback like on the android stick(s)? Is it smooth? Any minor issues?
Hi wowandroid,
If you are only interested in video playback, we have a clear winner! Check out devices with Allwinner A31 + powervr sgx544mp2 like this one:
http://www.ebay.es/itm/yatow-U4K-An...0?pt=Netzanschluss&hash=item56573ed2be&_uhb=1
It is only 1GHz, but the GPU plays 4k video with 120Mbps bitrate and 3D blueray output.
Have a look at this pages too, specially the first:
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...-tablet-quadcore-arm-cortex-a7-allwinner-a31/
http://withimagination.imgtec.com/index.php/powervr/allwinner-a31-soc-with-powervr-graphics
If you play from a usb disk it should work like a real charm, but I don't know about the wifi speed, it doesn't have an external antenna. I'm sure playing that 4k file through wifi won't be so smooth.
If you can get a device with this chipset and a gigabit wired connection, go for it.
To be honest, I've never heard of the sticks you've mentioned.
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To be honest, I've never heard of the sticks you've mentioned.
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If your main concern is video, I think this is hands down the best device.
It is a quite new chip, so maybe that's why you haven't heard about it.
Here is another review of a tablet with this chip:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2299688
All reviews agree that video performance is amazing. But I'm not sure if XBMC fully supports it yet.
It seems that it is all GPLed
http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner/a31/orders/
Thanks very much. I'm not sure if we can get this in the uk. How much are the sticks? Also how much are the tablets?
i've had no problems so far with cx-919
Thanks theregkid,
can you recommend where i can buy one from?(link?) Also will i be able to attach an external hdd?
For what I've read, there's little difference in the sticks with the same processor. At the moment, the RK 3188 chip seems to be the new standard. There are a few sticks that have it. I've just bought the Imito QX 1: the reason was the simple fact that the former models of Imito were nice, it had good reviews and because it has a metal plate (and no plastic) on the back, which is sort of the heatsink. On top of that, you can attach a normal passive heatsink, which seems to be enough to cool the processor... It then can run the 1080p kernel. Not many sticks have 1080p kernels...Finless (known for the finless roms), did a review on the build quality and he was pleasantly surprised! Mainly because of the heatsink option and of the fact that there can be an external antenna attached to it.
I've read, that for now, there is no hardware acceleration possible for the RK 3188 chip, but maybe in time... And are there ways to play 1080p movies, without HW acceleration? For now I've still got my RBPI...
A review on the qx1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSgP78HpcQ
Just google on 'Imito QX1 Review' and you'll see some offers right away...
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For what I've read, there's little difference in the sticks with the same processor. At the moment, the RK 3188 chip seems to be the new standard. There are a few sticks that have it. I've just bought the Imito QX 1: the reason was the simple fact that the former models of Imito were nice, it had good reviews and because it has a metal plate (and no plastic) on the back, which is sort of the heatsink. On top of that, you can attach a normal passive heatsink, which seems to be enough to cool the processor... It then can run the 1080p kernel. Not many sticks have 1080p kernels...Finless (known for the finless roms), did a review on the build quality and he was pleasantly surprised! Mainly because of the heatsink option and of the fact that there can be an external antenna attached to it.
I've read, that for now, there is no hardware acceleration possible for the RK 3188 chip, but maybe in time... And are there ways to play 1080p movies, without HW acceleration? For now I've still got my RBPI...
A review on the qx1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSgP78HpcQ
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Thank you very much for that breakdown. I'm very happy to buy this, but:-
1. Can the Imito QX1 attach an external hdd?
2. Is it well supported and able to have xbmc?
3. Where can i buy it from in the uk? (Cheapest link please!)
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Thank you very much for that breakdown. I'm very happy to buy this, but:-
1. Can the Imito QX1 attach an external hdd?
2. Is it well supported and able to have xbmc?
3. Where can i buy it from in the uk? (Cheapest link please!)
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I can't posts links here, but see my former remark for offers... there is an usb 2.0 connection on it... just google on specs and you'll find out yourself. But yes, every stick has the ability to attach an external hdd and even more, you can connect it to your NAS.
Don't let things like weak wifi reception on other models fool you. You can order a usb to rc45 cable for 4 euro's.
XBMC is possible, but as mentioned before, it has been optimized for machines like the rbpi. All rk 3188 sticks suffer from the fact that HW accelleration is not YET supported...
The only downside from this stick, for what I've seen now that it is a pain to hook up to your stereo, since there is no audio out connection on the device... Few sticks have it, but the android media boxes have more connections. So you won't have to buy a seperate powered usb hub.
Please be aware that a 2 amp converter is desired, when running this device.
Last thing... the Imito stick has a separate bluetooth and wifi chip. for what I know, this is kind of unique, because most devices have a 'two-in-one' chip. But not sure on this one. Anyone?