I have searched and searched and cannot find an answer. I recently acquired a Verizon Droid X2 and had it switched to my Alltel plan. Phone works great, but I cannot fix the dreaded no 3g no mms issues.
I have tried everything I could think of, but nothing. Wifi works fine, dialing out and receiving calls work fine, and sms text works fine.
I looked at the apn setting, which are not easy to find without the help of a 3rd party program on the market (apn shortcut), but now what I see is 5 entries for Verizon related services:
Verizon CBS
Verizon DUN
Verizon FOTA
Verizon IMS
Verizon Internet
But they all have a lock icon next to them, so I can't change any settings. I have tried creating a new entry but it doesn't save for some reason (my wife has the milestone x for alltel, works fine, I used tried to use her settings)
I have tried updating the prl, tried things like ##778 and all that, but none of these work for alltel.
Can anyone offer any help? Phone is almost worthless for me if I can have 3g and mms.
Thanks,
andyw123,
If you are subscribing to these service's that's something you should call Alltel / Verizon about. Verizon ownes Alltel I'am not sure if you know that.
{In early 2009, Verizon Wireless acquired Alltel, although the Alltel brand will remain until it is gradually phased out through the middle of 2009. Alltel was a large regional CDMA carrier offering service in 33 states, primarily in the south, midwest, and west. In 2005, the company acquired Western Wireless, a smaller carrier that operated under the Cellular One brand with service in 19 western states.}
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Thanks for the quick reply!
Ya, I tried that. They basically told me in a polite way that I shouldn't have taken a phone that wasn't part of Alltel's current line up and activated it on Alltel. Alltel told me that they could activate it, but couldn't guarantee that it would even work at all, which doesn't suprise me at all coming from Alltel.
I stopped at a total of 3 places, 2 alltel's and 1 verizon store. The first alltel told me they couldn't activate the x2 at all, but he tried, which messed up my current phone (he somehow deactivated it). Then went to Verizon next, they told me that I couldn't activate it at all because it wasn't part of Alltel's line up. Then I went to a corp store to get my old phone fixed, and somehow they were able to activate my x2, but with no data and no mms. Told me I was basically out of luck.
So, trying to decide if I should just sale the x2, which I don't want to do because currently the best phone Alltel has is the milestone x, which my wife has and it is dreadfully slow, slower than my old htc desire.
Anyone know of any other options that I might have?
Thanks
To access the programming menu open the dialer and dial ##PROGRAM the spc code is 000000
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Thanks Juhde,
I've already been in that menu, made sure ALL (except for my phone number) settings matched my wifes milestone x phone, and still nothing. I'm not an expert, but sounds to me like it has something to do with the APN settings, which I cannot seem to change.
Funny thing about this is, I can "copy" the apn-conf.xml file or whatever it is called from the system/etc folder on the phone, and it shows my custom settings that should work (the same file was on my HTC phone, which worked). But, when I use the program from the market called "APN Shortcut" to view my apn settings, it doesn't show anything other than the verizon defaults. I have tried to add a new APN entry, but when I click save, it acts like it did save it, but no new entry.
I'm wondering if there is another location that is saving these entries and somehow verizon has figured out a way to bypass the default location to save apn settings. Later, I'm going to search on the phone and see if there is another xml file that contains those settings.
Thanks for the help!
I'm no expert at this, but a lot of the times "replacement" files won't function unless the permissions are set correctly. I'm not sure what the permissions should be for that file but you might want to look into it.
EDIT: after taking a closer look, the app APN Manager seems to be a better program for adding an apn. Wither it works I can't say but when I used it to swap apn it stuck after reboot.
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This isnt alltel but i got my phone activated on another carrier.like you talk and txt worked. It wasn't until I flashed a few prl's and found one that got my 3g and mms working.mms still works spotty sometimes ,however.
I have 4 Verizon branded phones (mine is an x2) all using an alltel plan. I don't understand why you are having any problems at all
Do you mind give me some info from your x2? Like what the apn settings are set to and what prl you have?
Thanks!
i also have an alltel dataplan with an X2, no issues,
and no offense, but i dont know what is privileged info and what is not, so i wont be sharing
sorry
fischb22 said:
i also have an alltel dataplan with an X2, no issues,
and no offense, but i dont know what is privileged info and what is not, so i wont be sharing
sorry
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WTF do you mean privileged info? I think he is just wanting to compare the numbers, what is he going to do with the info from your phone, besides compare to his current setup?
There is nothing that I can do with your apn settings or your prl version that you are running. This is just so I can see if my setting are the same as your working settings. I have compared them to my wifes Milestone X and they are the same.
On another note. Here is something wierd. I was able to erase all the apn setting from verizon (i think) and then I added the apn setting from my wifes phone, clicked on save, and then it went back and didn't actually save them.
The more and more I think about it, I am wondering if it is a PRL problem instead of the apn settings problem. Seems alot of people got this problem fixed on their phone by doing the prl change. Problem with that is, most people say to do a ##prl to fix it, that doesn't work on this phone. The only code I can get to work is *#*#program#*#* or something like that. So, anyone know of a way to manually change my prl on my phone?
The prl update number for Verizon is *228 since Verizon owns Alltel I think it's the same.
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Ya, thats it if you want to download whichever one that want to give you, but it won't let me put one on there that I got, if that makes any sense at all.
Basically, is there a file location that I can copy it to or maybe a way to install it like I would a zip from recovery or anything like that? I already have the file download that I want to try to use, but basically going to try a few to see if I notice any difference.
p.s. Now I think my phone is actually only ringing part of the time, the other times it seems to go straight to voice mail even though I have 4 bars and not in roaming...
Thanks for the input everyone by the way!
Sooooo you have dialed *228 and it didn't work? Verizon also has forced and secondary prl update numbers. Try *22898 & *22899. Also what does your network banner say? Alltel? Extended network? If it says Extended network you might call Alltel up and ask them where the nearest Alltel owned tower for you is, drive to its area, reboot and try to update again. 3rd party towers *usually* don't carry the data encryption key your phone needs to activate the data plan.
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Ok, well... I called both the other *228xx numbers, and I was greeted by alltel. I clicked on 2 and it said "Your phone already contains the latest update" and that was it. and as far as my banner, it doesn't actually "say" alltel, or anything like that. Just shows with the 4 bars, or a triangle if I am in roaming. I know from past that in a near by big city does have alltel towers around, and I was there but no difference.
So, still back to square one.
Thanks again for all your help!!
Another quick update. I finally found a way to update just the prl file. So, I tried 41003.prl and updated it manually (was not too difficult, just alot of trial and error). Phone worked just fine, but still no 3g coverage. Next I went to 31005.prl which is an actual alltel prl, but still the same effect - no 3g.
So, I went back to the latest prl from alltel which is 31011.
So, I am pretty sure that the prl file is not the problem. I guess now I need to figure out the apn setting issue that I am having, which is basically the default verizon settings are not working for me, even if I am in a verizon territory (like columbus ohio, big city). Using an app that was suggested to me on this thread I was able to delete the verizon apn settings fine. But when I went to create new apn settings, I went through it all and clicked on save, but it didn't actually save them. So, back to square one.
It would be nice if someone who is currently using a stock x2 from verizon on alltel would tell me what their prl version number is and their apn settings are (using an app like apn shortcut - found on the market).
On a side note. One difference I noticed. Looking at my old android phone (htc desire), it shows the same apn setting basically as my wifes phone, but the MNC number is 120, mine is currently set to 004, which is not changeable.
Several weeks later, and still no 3g data at all. Wireless works flawless, and phone calls work (actually phone works better than an alltel phone)
One thought that I had but not sure if I posted about yet...When I got the phone from the guy I got it from, he said he "thinks" it has a bad esn. So, I got it on a chance, afterall I could sell it on ebay for more than I paid for it with a bad esn. Anyway, if it does have a bad esn on verizon, I'm not entirely sure that Alltel would check it or even care about that. So, since alltel is owned basically by verizon, but still a separate company as of now, I wonder if verizon is blocking data access because it might have a bad esn.
I guess my next step is to call verizon and see if they can tell me if the esn is bad. I have tried a verizon store, and they were NO help to me at all, and actually very rude. Alltel just tells me that "I won't be able to get data because I am not using one of their phones" which is crap.
So, I think ultimately we have eliminated the prl possibility, apn is still my number one concern, but now I am leaning towards a bad esn. If that is the case, does anyone have any ideas on what I might be able to do with a bad esn? I know it is illegal to "change" an esn, and I don't think it is possible right now with the x2, but do I have any other options besides going back to my old phone (htc desire - not a bad phone, just want the larger screen and faster performance).
Thanks again everyone. Everyone has been alot of help!
If you wanna take drastic measures, search for a program called radiocomm, it's what motorola uses to program the radio.
A word of warning: if you change something with radiocomm and do it wrong the radio will become useless and the software is VERY complex to use. It could take you literally years to figure out but who knows, maybe you can find out exactly what parameter needs tweaking. I'd advise caution using radiocomm though. I just wanted you to know of the option.
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I bought the htc touch pro sprint version off a good deal. I used the elite team unlocker and I tossed the vzw leaked rom on the touch pro. Installation of the leaked rom went fairly well, and I thought I was ready to get this device connected via vzw network. I called vzw 3 times, went to 3 different stores, all have the same answer.
They cannot add the esn to their database. So my question is - what's the workaround regarding that policy? Do I have a very expensive alarm on my hands or is there something that can be done?
btw I haven't unlocked the msl code and I put the sprint rom (stock rom) back on the device to start fresh. Bear in mind I tried Getspc and I found that didn't work too well. I also tried QPST on vista and windows xp and the same popup on both machines came up (installing new drivers, please select driver location) to try and change the msl.
Any other thoughts or a good direction of where to go? I tried going to mobile files and I got an okay understanding of it, but an issue is well...I'm not sure of what to do.
I know there was a thread in the diamond forum to change the esn and I think that would be a good idea, what are your thoughts on it? Is it a good idea? Did I just open up pandora's box?
Try this
Go to forum.ppcgeeks.com
I believe I read something similar to this on that site. Don't know about the solution, but they are more advanced in dealing with the CDMA Pro, as they appear to have had it longer.
Sorry I couldnt help more. So Much for the Open Network Verizon promised.
Carriers sometimes are just a BIG Joke.
yeah I was reading two topics started by one guy...seems he went through the same drama that i went through
so I'm thinking from the discussion the only way would be to send the phone to verizon and I don't want to do that honestly
Dont
Don't Do it, and Verizon would rather you bu their own touch Pro when it gets released
Unless you can edit/spoof a Verizon ESN I don't think it's possible currently. If you do manage to find a way to do that, you need to be careful as it's probably illegal (as the ESN could belong to someone else -- and I'm sure there's laws in place to "protect you") -- Guessing at least, IANAL
Yes, technically it is illegal to change the ESN of a phone, however, I know that there was a way to change it (at least for the Mogul).
its been done
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44663
trying it now and so far my results are exactly as advertised huzzah!
So what's the verdict? Success or Fail?
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So what's the verdict? Success or Fail?
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its my understanding that at this time vzn has suspended adding ESN's to there DMD. check the PPCgeeks post above your post and check to make sure though.
Yeah, I see they have some Sprint Touch Pro's on e-bay and I was thinking about getting one for my verizon account because they are cheaper and also I heard they have more processor memory or something. So does that no longer work, or can someone point me to a thread on this?
if you go to PPC geeks you can fint the post in the TP section.
I have a sprint touch pro on vzw network working perfectly using the above method a wile back, however 2 days ago i lost internet, and decided to activate an old phone and reactivate the touch pro to reset the internet settings on verizons network, when reactivating the sprint touch pro i was told the esn was invalad du to the fact that it was not 911 compadable,.. wich we allknow it is, but i believe verizon has just set their network to generate that error when a sprint esn is trying to be added, as of right now there is a truble ticken in with verizons it department but, im not very hopefull, i think my next step would be to clone an esn of a verizon phone i am not using, can anyone help me with that?
if it was anything close to what I had to do to get it on alltel, if you can get them to add the esn you may have to manually program it then add a prl then try *228 it....you do best to call vzw CS and tell them its theirs if they ask...
I have a PPC6800 flashed with one of Ryan's Alltel 6.5 ROMS (Great job Ryan!). The phone worked great in my home area after the flash, but I'm currently on vacation and cannot get a EVDO signal in Orlando! I get decent signal for voice in most places, but really just enought to make calls, lots of "can you hear me now" in the conversations. Verizons maps show that they cover this area completely so I went by the Verizon store to see if they could update the phone. The tech guy said that the phone was still really an Alltel phone and there was nothing that he could do. (he was kinda a jerk, didn't appear to even want to help) I use the data connection alot and have become very dependent on it to stay in touch with my office, but with my current 1x connection, email is about all it's good for.
My questions are:
Can I apply the Verizon version of the ROM to the phone without bricking it?
If not, is there something I can do myself to "update" to tap into Verizon's EVDO network?
Thanks for any help.
you can start by updating your prl *228 option 1 or 2 (dont remember)
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you can start by updating your prl *228 option 1 or 2 (dont remember)
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Yeah, I tried that, but since I'm already out of my home area, it doesn't work. All I get is "programming unsuccessful" or something like that.
Alltel's pda support is pretty good. Call in & get one of them on the line. They will try & make you do the *228 thing. Also check your setting for Home Only/Roam and see if that makes a difference at all.
dlundy said:
I have a PPC6800 flashed with one of Ryan's Alltel 6.5 ROMS (Great job Ryan!). The phone worked great in my home area after the flash, but I'm currently on vacation and cannot get a EVDO signal in Orlando! I get decent signal for voice in most places, but really just enought to make calls, lots of "can you hear me now" in the conversations. Verizons maps show that they cover this area completely so I went by the Verizon store to see if they could update the phone. The tech guy said that the phone was still really an Alltel phone and there was nothing that he could do. (he was kinda a jerk, didn't appear to even want to help) I use the data connection alot and have become very dependent on it to stay in touch with my office, but with my current 1x connection, email is about all it's good for.
My questions are:
Can I apply the Verizon version of the ROM to the phone without bricking it?
If not, is there something I can do myself to "update" to tap into Verizon's EVDO network?
Thanks for any help.
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Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM, then flash a gps radio 3.35 and up, then hard reset and pull battery for a couple minutes. Make sure the phone is UNPLUGGED and boot it up. Now access PST and Program it for VERIZON, load your local Verizon PRL, and update the items so phone resets. When it boots back up you want to access DMR (diagnostic mode) and plug it into the computer and Program QPST for VERIZON, make sure everything is set for Verizon you have to do some searching.. Also make sure to do the GPS one tab last and write to phone while still in that TAB, do not leave the GPS one tab until after its completed. Now unplug the phone and open task manager and close DMR, now soft reset the phone. Keep it UNPLUGGED and when it boots up access the internet to set it up for the first time.
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Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM, then flash a gps radio 3.35 and up, then hard reset and pull battery for a couple minutes. Make sure the phone is UNPLUGGED and boot it up. Now access PST and Program it for VERIZON, load your local Verizon PRL, and update the items so phone resets. When it boots back up you want to access DMR (diagnostic mode) and plug it into the computer and Program QPST for VERIZON, make sure everything is set for Verizon you have to do some searching.. Also make sure to do the GPS one tab last and write to phone while still in that TAB, do not leave the GPS one tab until after its completed. Now unplug the phone and open task manager and close DMR, now soft reset the phone. Keep it UNPLUGGED and when it boots up access the internet to set it up for the first time.
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Ryan, I normally agree with you 100%, but I don't think that's the case here. I'm pretty sure he's an Alltel customer that is confused because of Verizon's recent purchase of Alltel.
Basically, Verizon is not going to be fully taking Alltel phones onto their network...ever. They are still Alltel phones. BUT there are new PRLs out there which will allow you to completely utilize the entire Verizon (and Sprint, too) tower structure.
So what he should do is still with the Alltel ROM. And because Alltel gives the 6800 their 3xxxx series PRLs and not the higher quality 4xxxx series, he needs to donwload the best PRL and update it manually.
Here's a link to a page where you can download the latest PRL 40050. There are instructions on the page to show you how o install. The one change I've had to do is instead of simply ##775, I had to do ##775#.
http://www.the-answerman.com/sidlist/prl/index.asp
Good luck!
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Ryan, I normally agree with you 100%, but I don't think that's the case here. I'm pretty sure he's an Alltel customer that is confused because of Verizon's recent purchase of Alltel.
Basically, Verizon is not going to be fully taking Alltel phones onto their network...ever. They are still Alltel phones. BUT there are new PRLs out there which will allow you to completely utilize the entire Verizon (and Sprint, too) tower structure.
So what he should do is still with the Alltel ROM. And because Alltel gives the 6800 their 3xxxx series PRLs and not the higher quality 4xxxx series, he needs to donwload the best PRL and update it manually.
Here's a link to a page where you can download the latest PRL 40050. There are instructions on the page to show you how o install. The one change I've had to do is instead of simply ##775, I had to do ##775#.
http://www.the-answerman.com/sidlist/prl/index.asp
Good luck!
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Thanks for trying to clear things up but its still a little inconclusive. You said he is an Alltel Customer, you also said that Verizon bought Alltel.. Now remember he says he has a "Alltel Branded" TITAN.
If Verizon bought Alltel that means the Carrier Alltel still exists, it wasnt a merger correct?
Ok then, if he has a Alltel TITAN, and he is an Alltel Customer, with my Alltel ROM. Why even mention that VERIZON will not take Alltel phones onto their network??? You said he is an Alltel customer, and he has a Genuine Alltel TITAN, so he would be activating the Genuine Alltel TITAN on Alltel..
I was confused because of all this talk about Verizon maps, verizon store, etc.... I see what you mean about his PRL, so hopefully he updates to the 4xxxx series and his issues vanish. But wow what confusing posts..
Hopefully the Verizon, Alltel purchase doesnt affect my Alltel or Verizon ROMs from working properly. I wouldnt be suprised though..
I think the downloaded PRL should do the trick. I used to work for Alltels data support and they cannot help unless you are on network. If you are roaming on another carriers tower then nothing can be done to manually push a new prl through to the phone. I know from experience that Orlando/Kissimmee area is a tricky area. The issue is that Alltels PRLs are very crappy. There are towers in the area which will not incur you roaming charges, but for whatever reason, the phones will not choose to connect to. I forget the SID of the towers in the area which will get you 3-4 bars of EVDO coverage. What I have done before while I am there is to keep checking your phone to see if it picks up on those towers (it will from time to time). Go and check the current SID number and then set that as your home SID and put the phone in home only mode, which will lock you into those group of towers while you are in that area. Of course, if you leave the area you will want to set your phone back to your normal home SID and take the phone out of home only mode. Hopefully the PRL update via that download link above will help you, but if it doesn't then try this method. I will warn you that if you get the wrong tech on the phone and they try and help you update your phone, then they could make matters worst for you.
so, like i said on post #2 update your prl!!! by any means.
RyanMogul6800 said:
...I was confused because of all this talk about Verizon maps, verizon store, etc.... I see what you mean about his PRL, so hopefully he updates to the 4xxxx series and his issues vanish. But wow what confusing posts..
Hopefully the Verizon, Alltel purchase doesnt affect my Alltel or Verizon ROMs from working properly. I wouldnt be suprised though..
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LOL, if my post was confusing it's because I'm pretty confused. I went to the Verizon store for several reasons.
I am out of my home area and the nearest Alltel Store is 75 miles away (Tampa,FL).
My Home Store is now a Verizon Store.
I recieved a letter telling me that I was now on the Verizon Network.
When I dial a wrong number I get a Verizon recording.
I heard that Verizon bought Alltel
When I got to the Verizon store, they told me
I was still an Alltel customer
Verizon doesn't carry a phone llike mine (PPC6800)
My phone was a pocket pc phone not a smart phone (yes that's what he said)
There was nothing he could do.
Call Alltel tech Support (he was kind enough to give me their number).
The Alltel guy, though courteous and seemingly genuine in his efforts to help, could not. He even mentioned that he had been in Orlando recently and had the same problem. His only recommendation was to take the battery out overnight so everything would clear and maybe when it reconnected it would update the PRLs.
My apologies for not being more clear.
On a positive note, I took btonetbone's advice and updated the PRL,(this is what I'd hoped the Verizon tech could do) and I am currently getting EVDO connection, at least the status indicator says so. I'm not getting a very good signal where I'm at so the speed is not great. 267 DOWN, 314 UP (oddly enough) on a Speakeasy speed test. I'll see how it works tomorrow when I can get a better signal and know more then.
Thanks to all who have responded, I understand things a little better now.
RyanMogul6800 said:
Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM...
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Had the Alltel ROM not worked so well in my home area that's exactly what I would have done. Well.... It's exactly what I would have done after coming here and finding out how to do it.
Thanks for your hard work...
No problem I am glad you got it sorted out, those speeds are better than nothing at all so you are getting somewhere. Also I breezed by your compliments on my work but thanks for the compliments.
Members in general are great here, very knowledgeable and persistent. This is literally the best forum around.. Too bad they dont go the "thanks button" route though that would be magnificent.
Hey everyone i have searhed but couldnt find any referance to my problem so hear goes basically i wanted to get my titan to work on the pageplus network. I heard it was possible but since my phone is a sprint phone and pageplus works off of the verizon network is there any special action that needs to be taken or what??
This is the first time I've heard of Page Plus, but regardless of the carrier, you'd want to see if the carrier would be willing to add the ESN to their inventory. If they would, I imagine all you really need to do is get the proper PST settings and the correct PRL file and write the info to your phone.
http://www.pagepluscellular.com/ it has a nice 39.99 plan 1500 min and 1500 txt and i know they do allow other phones just settings are the problem.
Anyone know where i can find the PST settings for pageplus?
I havent activated a titan yet, getting ready too, on Page Plus. I think all you will need is to find the dcd verizon cab here and install it. Page Plus is a virtual operator of Verizon so that should get your settings right for data, i believe.
Hello I bought nice phone from ebay and I went to activate it and everything went fine, but when I do a *228 it updates the prl to 30044. After reset the phone does not work at all, the only way I can get it to work is if I use PRL 30036.
I have an alltel Phone and touch pro can anyone help? I have spent the last two days on tech support with Alltel and they dont know what to do, they told me the hardware is broken but how can that be if the prhone works with older PRL??
I just dont get it.
are u upgrading the roaming towers when doing *228 or doing the activate ur phone option ?
i am doing the option 1.
option one is to activate your phone option 2 updates the PRL - so chances are there something wrong with the activation process. so try option 2 instead of option 1 ... i do beleive 30036 is when alltel used 3rd party towers still and 30039 is when they started to cut out other carrier towers and switch over to pure alltel and verizon towers. but i dont know i havent tried editing the PRL files and compairing them.
is your phone a Alltel one or is it sprint or verizon or some unknown carrier created version?
Ok heres what I figured out, its not actually the prl updating that is disabling the phone, but the activation.. when I dial *228 and do option 2, it will update my prl.. and everything will work fine, but if I do an option 1 it will update the prl and disable the phone... Something else is happening when I do *228 with option one...
Alltel is clueless. The "engineer" that is handling my trouble ticket left me a voicemail today asking why i dont just keep the 30036 prl, well obviously since its outdated lol and I am roaming where ever I go.
Its an alltel phone with stock alltel Rom. The ebay listing said it works on verizon network. I spoke with a verizon rep and he said thats impossible. Again i know he is full of it because I have been reading the forums.
chances are the previous owner did some edits using QPST and possibly caused it to do some funky things... i dont see why the activation of the phone would cause it to disable but the verizon agent is half right(he is probably a CSR dealing in customer service not a TSR who deal with technical issues. he doesnt know jack about the technical aspects of the phone as much as he would like to think he does. but if its unlocked and flashed to a verizon rom it would work. possibly)
im thinking there is something that the phone is not interpriting correctly when it takes the activation update and confusing the living hell outta it ... what rom and radio is the phone running?
I have reverted back to the stock rom from alltel, which I read somewhere contains the newest radio. not sure where to look for the specific radio version.
I believe your right about the other guy using qpst to change some settings. It seems to hard to believe that it could be a hardware issue. i guess now I just need to know what settings he changed and get them back. Ive got QPST now and I have my phone connected to it, but I don't know what information to change so im kind of just waiting for instructions lol. I found a couple thread oon how to convert alltel phones to Verizon, but none that are going to alltel so I don't know where to get all the proper settings.
Ok so I read somewhere that part of the process of converting over to the other network is deleting the ha and aaa shared secret keys, then resetting the device, i did this, because I thought maybe he put in verizon in in these boxes, but it did not help, and now the two entried do not even show up in epst.
I tried re-adding them via QPST as text values, I write to phone, but the information does not take. I have the HA and aaa shared secret keys written down.
i think once u flash to stock rom that should change it for you when u do the activation so now that ur on stock try the *228 option 1 and see if it kills the phone features.
the radio you can find in device information should tell u the radio the prl and the meid and mdn.... what u wana make sure is that the mdn does not change when doing a *228 option 1 ... if that clears that would mean ur phone doesnt know it has a phone # :\
as for the QPST stuff i dont have it installed right now so i dont know the settings... the alltel stock rom shouldnt have an aaa key i beleive dew to the phone does not have auth for the internet like verizon. dont know about the HA though ... i think that comes from *228 option 1
what you can try is dial ##778# or ##778 and press send and it should pull it up the HA shared secret is something strange by the activation the AAA shared secret should be alltel you should be able to edit them in there itws under M.ip default profile
ok i see them now, I had NSFANS rom installed a few hours ago ann I was able to do ##3282# (doesnt work with altell rom) and I could actually restore the EPST settings there, after it reset everything was blank, I had to flash the stock alltel rom again to get all the alltel settings in there and I had to add my SID MSID and NAI, after that.
Something is still wrong though, Im not sure what my ha or aaa shared keys are even doing, or if i should change them. Im really lost at this point.
And Data hasnt been working since day 1 not sure if thats relevant.
data i think is what uses the keys ... also is the data connection set to use the #777 to dial out with no user name or password ... does the *228 option 1 work when on the alltel stock rom also?
Ok the user name and password were blank, I seem to remember on my titan the settings were [email protected] and password blank., the *228 option 1 messes the phone up then i have to install a older prl, everything works except i get a romaing triangle and no evdo, just 1x.
I just spoke with an alltel rep again to pick his brain for a minute and he said why am i doing option 1 that could mess my phone up, and really i have no idea why i am trying to do it. i just want my evdo to work and to get a good signal and Data to work properly.
Ok so noy my data works.. lol
Only real problem I have is no ev and the roaming triangle.
the roaming thing is usually comes from a flash of a differnet carriers stock rom and it ran the customizations ... that could also be the cause of the option 1 f-ing everything up but you said u flashed to the stock alltell one off the htc site so it should wipe out those settings... im waiting right now for the replacement phone to come in the mail once it gets here ill copy down all the settings from stock and post em but iv been waiting about a week and a half for it to arrive so im not holding my breath. (the last one they sent took a month and it was active on some one elses account and it was listed as stolen... how nice of them)
I cant find where the mdn information is listed.
I found the HA and AAA shared secret keys, but I dont know if I should delete them or just leave them be..
Ok I got my new phone today, a brand new one. And they were having the same exact problem activating it as they were with this phone. Im gonna have to chalk this one up as an error on alltels network. One thing I think it may have been is that I had my number changed recently so my number and my MSID are not the same my MSID is my old phone number.
They started to tell me that the new phone i bought was broken again and I said the chances of that were astronomical. I told them to go in the back and get me one of their touch pros, activate it and then try telling me the same thing. He came back out with a blackberry, activated it then smirked as he was able to activate it. I said that's not a touch pro though, go in the back and get a touch pro and try to activate that. as I was saying that he reactivating my new touch pro, and then he was like "oh its working now" lol so for now its working.
Now that I have both touch pros, the only difference i can find in the EPST settings are the SID/NID numbers, on the new one the settings are 1/244, on the old one the settings are 244/63535. don't quote me on the 63535, it was similar to that but i have already packaged the phone for shipment and i don't feel like getting it back out.
Ill be moving to japan by years end and was wondering what network could I use to work with the Atrix? And if anyone has any experiance living in japan, how does billing work?
From everything I've heard Japan has domestic market phones that make the Atrix look like old news. You might be better off getting a phone/plan locally when you get there.
...I beg to differ on that one.
Here in Japan, there are some good Android phones, but they're almost always locked down. For example my SH005. great phone except the battery won't last a whole day.
I picked up an Atrix I plan on unlocking and using that over here.
anything that has the 2100 band (pretty much all 3G phones in the US) will work on Softbank. if you're going there permanently, then if your phone is unlocked you can probably just drop the SIM in. if you're going temporarily then you will probably need to grab a prepaid SIM but it should still work in the phone. you pay for all minutes used, incoming calls are free, and softbank has a good deal on unlimited mail for prepaid (300 yen per month) plans.
shadowfalx had issues with softbank in JP.. he tried 2 Atrix handsets and couldn't get either of them to work with data..
It had to be his APN settings. I've used dozens of non-softbank phones over here, starting with my GSM WinMo Treo 750, and as long as the APN settings were correct, it worked on data fine. There's one other person with an Atrix I know here in Tokyo; He's a Google employee here. So I know it'll work.
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From everything I've heard Japan has domestic market phones that make the Atrix look like old news. You might be better off getting a phone/plan locally when you get there.
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Like what?
Japan is behind the times these days, still loving flip phones, blackberries and just joining the iphone love.
Symbian is alive and well in Japan. That should tell you everything.
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It had to be his APN settings. I've used dozens of non-softbank phones over here, starting with my GSM WinMo Treo 750, and as long as the APN settings were correct, it worked on data fine. There's one other person with an Atrix I know here in Tokyo; He's a Google employee here. So I know it'll work.
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Have you ever heard of people getting extremely high charges for data? I read about that on another forum (gaijinpot, search for "softbank bill" on the title, I can't link to it). They say softbank will usually not allow you to use a cell phone they didn't sell on their data network if you ask them directly. The thread is 3 or so moths old, I don't think too much has changed since then.
Again, it's all in the plan/APN settings you start off with beforehand, along with checking My.softbank.ne.jp to see if you're getting ridiculous charges...
Some people go into the store, get a prepaid phone, then just swap the SIMs. No prepaid phone here comes with data!
Others are moving from a featurephone to a smartphone. Those have data, but are tied to a specific APN. When pulling down more data than allowed from that APN, they charge exorbitant fees. Hence plan changing is a good thing.
Finally, some people go from iPhone to another Android. iPhones here have totally different APNs they attach to.
It's all in the name controlling the plans for their customers, that's all. Connect to the one you're paying for, then you shouldn't have any problem.
Again, I used an AT&T treo 750, HTC Tilt, HTC Tilt 2, from T-mobile, and an out-the-box unlocked iPhone 3GS from Singapore with no issues. Of course you NEVER tell them that you're using a different phone from the one that's on their system. But as long as you're connected properly, they generally don't care.
That being said, theres another option called B:mobile here. They're an MVNO and use DoCoMo's network. They just sell you a prepaid SIM card. I may try them out, just to see what kind of service is there and if it could save me some ¥. This guy is test one right now actually:
http://softbanksucks.blogspot.com/
Wow, that was really informative starrwulfe. I was looking for this kind of info because I just got an Atrix off of ebay and I plan to use it with a Dell Streak's SIM which I got from softbank on the 2-year contract. You're saying that if I backup my APN settings from the Streak I should have no problems on the Atrix, correct?
For the record, I pay about 9,000 yen per month. That includes ~6,000 for the unlimited data plan, ~1800 for the phone, and all the crap you have to sign in when you make the contract.
OP, If you are going to stay in Japan long enough and you intend to use a lot of data on the Atrix you may want to consider getting a basic android smartphone from softbank on an unlimited data plan and swapping SIMs.
Exactly.
I have a Sharp Galapagos SH005 here now, but like you, I'm switching to an Atrix too (in fact it should be here before Saturday) and that's exactly what I plan to do.
Easy way to tell what APN you should connect to is to check the color of the SIM cards. Black ones are iPhone only cards, gray ones with green bands specifically say "SMARTPHONE" on them-- they go into the Android phones here. Feature phones have a regular gray card.
You can find the APN info and password easily by googling a little... But if you can back up your APN info, can you share it with me? mine is locked (current phone can't be rooted)
Ok, now I'm having trouble here with getting my Atrix set up on the Softbank network.
Phone calls and SMS work, but data doesn't.
Seems they have some unpublished APNs now with the new android phones. My Galapagos plugs into some other APN than what the normal silver cards did. Unfortunately I can't see what my APN is now on my current phone since they've locked that part out.
What I'm also afraid of is that they may have also started using things like imei checking and user agent binding as well. Great, now what can I do?
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Just so you know, I have this with sim card out of my iPhone and my atrix works on the softbank network. So it was see if only thing stopping me for connecting to softbank is apn info.
again if anybody has sharp galapogos APN information for softbank I would happily pay pal a donation
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It had to be his APN settings. I've used dozens of non-softbank phones over here, starting with my GSM WinMo Treo 750, and as long as the APN settings were correct, it worked on data fine. There's one other person with an Atrix I know here in Tokyo; He's a Google employee here. So I know it'll work.
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It was APNs....sort of. Motorola Atrix requires you to add your Username and Password to a file in '/system/etc/ppp/peers/pppd-ril.options'. With out this you can call and use wi-fi but can not use mobile data.
and for APN's this site is helpful:
http://android.modaco.com/content/a...internet-mms-apk-for-softbank-users-in-japan/
Just remember is you want tethering and aGPS add them to the list in APN Type. So it should read default,supl,mms,agps,dun,tether remember NO spaces
Starrwulf do you have root on you Galappagos phone? if so you can look at the APNs.....Let me make a guide quickly and I will update this post.
Required:
SQLite editor
Root
1) Open SQLite editor and accept the root permissions.
2) Go to Dialer storage.
3) telephony.db
4) carriers
This opens a database file with all the APNs preloaded on the phone. You should be able to look for the one that has a 'Yes' in the current field.
I assume this is the same or similar on the Galapagos (I don't have one specifically though)
Thanx _Dennis_ for being so helpful!
Unfortunately, this thing has no root-- or rather may have temporary root, but not full root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054132
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13747122
If I could gain just enough access to that file, then maybe theres a good chance it's in there.
I don't think SuperOneClick works... any suggestions?
maybe try gingerbreak? it may gain you root but you may not be able to change anything, which would be ok.
Or even better do you have adb access? if so I will find the correct .db file.
--edit: correct file is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db
or try these settings:
apn carrier="SoftBank Internet"
mcc="440"
mnc="20"
apn="andglobal.softbank.ne.jp"
user="andg001softbank"
password="pumbbghkpgyybsxa"
mmsc="http://mms/"
mmsproxy="andmms.softbank.ne.jp"
mmsport="8080"
type="default,mms"
preferred="true"
from: http://android.modaco.com/content-p...-mms-apk-for-softbank-users-in-japan/page/40/
I'm on the freenode IRC channel #moto-atrix, my name is shadowfalx do to someone already having _dennis_ registered though, if you want more real time help
You, another friend of mine here on Gtalk, and I found that MoDaCo thread all at the same time!
Those settings did the trick actually! So now I'm good to go. Now I need to figure out how to push that other mms.apk thru ADB to get my useragent changed...
BTW I'm new to the Android Mod scene. I started messing with WinMo back in the States, then moved here and had a very hacked Tilt 2 on softbank... when it gave up the ghost, I went into the iPhone jailbreak scene. Now I'm here! So I'll accept any and all advice you can give me, sensei/senpai!
You don't really need the mms app Download 'Handcent' from the market and change the UA in settings. Also I suggest getting 'market enabler' requires root but it allows you to fake a US sim card in the market and get US only apps.
I have Hancent... But I don't see anywhere to change the UA in the settings.... Am I missing something?