Rumor: Honeycomb for evo view by the end of december - HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G

http://phandroid.com/2011/12/07/rum...tp://phandroid.com&xdm_c=default2355&xdm_p=1&
Ain't holding my breathe but would be nice if it did...

sounds reasonable given that it's currently in operator testing.

globatron said:
sounds reasonable given that it's currently in operator testing.
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it's sprint's fault then? can't wait for 3.2

Globatron,
I want to thank you for all your useful posts and I also had question.
I own an Evo View since my wife works for Sprint's ad agency and won one via a raffle. I do not have Sprint Service so its essentially a wi-fi only tablet, do you know when and if the Honeycomb updated releases will View owners like myself with no Sprint service be left out in the cold?
I havent gotten a straight answer from Sprint and it seems like you may know people there.

I can't answer that for 100% certain but I would strongly doubt it, the update servers generally just check the model id and CID to make sure it's a valid device not whether you have an active contract. In any case it doesn't really matter becasue we'll put the HC up here anyway once it roll out.

globatron said:
I can't answer that for 100% certain but I would strongly doubt it, the update servers generally just check the model id and CID to make sure it's a valid device not whether you have an active contract. In any case it doesn't really matter becasue we'll put the HC up here anyway once it roll out.
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Correct. After I purchased another evo view with no sprint service and no hands free activation I was able to download the updates for it via wi-fi.
The sprint service is mainly for the mobile data ability (3g/4g) and text messages. Other than that you can do everything over wi-fi.

lovethyEVO said:
Correct. After I purchased another evo view with no sprint service and no hands free activation I was able to download the updates for it via wi-fi.
The sprint service is mainly for the mobile data ability (3g/4g) and text messages. Other than that you can do everything over wi-fi.
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Agreed. I too have a sprint-less view and I recieved a security update today when I hit WiFi. The only thing I didn't see was the file size I was hoping for in the update. 4.56mb instead of 210.

i think its out, i have an update on my view tablet but I wont update until i can confirm that recovery can be unlocked.
A couple of devices has already locked recovery on 3.0 and I hope history doesn't repeat it self

Does anyone know if I update my HTC View (with leaked ROM, not waiting for OTA official update), will I lose 4G?

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Does anyone know if I update my HTC View (with leaked ROM, not waiting for OTA official update), will I lose 4G?
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i have the view and the update came up. Only thing im on the sprint rom. So if you want it now flash one of the old sprints roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062184 - link for all the flyer roms just download one with sprint in its name
but remember when you update you will lose your root

Did you flash it, got any screens for us?

I don't know if location matters, but I'm on the west coast of the US with the View 4G on Sprint and I most definitely do not have the firmware update available on my tablet when I go to check system updates.
Still not reading anywhere about whether or not updating to the leaked ROM will ruin the 4G...I guess I'm just gonna wait. Further, since no one has the actual official update on Sprint's devices (or at least has posted) how do we know if we'll lose the ability to root the device? That's, from all accounts, a rumor since it's happened to other devices in the past...Not all, but some. So it's not confirmed.
Is there anyone out there who has actually flashed their Sprint HTC View to the leaked ROM (who also uses the data plan from Sprint)? Some insight would be much appreciated about whether or not 3G and/or 4G still works after doing so. Thanks.

I tried to update via the tablet settings and I got an Error code 1233 saying it could not be completed...?
Hmmm

The update I received, I can not and will not install. The first time I let it try, I got a nifty blue Andy with a caution sign over his head that sat there for about 30 minutes. I held down the power button until it shut off and rebooted, thankfully, back to the way it was. Then I deleted the zip file.

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[Q] Running un-released radio and your warranty

I'm definitely excited that this new radio firmware has been leaked, but my dilemma is thus:
My wife and I both have Thunderbolts. I've rooted mine, thrown on custom ROMs, kernels, etc, but hers is stock. Her battery life is MUCH worse on stock than mine, even with the brightness, sync, etc turned down, so she's about to the point of wanting me to root/flash hers too.
Unfortunately, we may have to return her phone as the speakerphone is all but unusable due to feedback/noise issues while in a call. I know it's fairly simple to return a phone to stock, and Verizon can't tell over the air what ROM or kernel you're using, but from what I can gather, they CAN tell what radio version you're using. If I have to return her phone for warranty issues, will they see that she's had the leaked radio firmware and thus deny the claim?
if you are going to return it why go through the hassle of rooting and what not just return it then root the new one and install the new radio version.
ckochinsky125 said:
if you are going to return it why go through the hassle of rooting and what not just return it then root the new one and install the new radio version.
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I agree. Just return the phone now if you are having problems.
I concur, but Verizon is giving me the runaround as I have yet to be able to reproduce the issue for them over the phone or in store. My main concern wasn't so much with rooting and flashing, but more of whether to use the "unauthorized" radio firmware update.
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Veridor said:
I concur, but Verizon is giving me the runaround as I have yet to be able to reproduce the issue for them over the phone or in store. My main concern wasn't so much with rooting and flashing, but more of whether to use the "unauthorized" radio firmware update.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt using Perfect Storm themed XDA App
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In my experience, the employees at the Verizon stores know less about the Thunderbolt than I do. I had to get my SD card replaced (twice), and though my phone wasn't rooted I doubt they would have noticed, and I would bet that they wouldn't notice a different radio on your wife's device.
Also, didn't Jcase release an unmodified/signed RUU of the new radio? Sounds to me like that would be indistinguishable from an "authorized" radio update. (Disclaimer: I am not an expert and this is pure speculation which would very well be 100% false.)
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In my experience, the employees at the Verizon stores know less about the Thunderbolt than I do. I had to get my SD card replaced (twice), and though my phone wasn't rooted I doubt they would have noticed, and I would bet that they wouldn't notice a different radio on your wife's device.
Also, didn't Jcase release an unmodified/signed RUU of the new radio? Sounds to me like that would be indistinguishable from an "authorized" radio update. (Disclaimer: I am not an expert and this is pure speculation which would very well be 100% false.)
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Will have to look in to that. Guess I'm paranoid about them flagging my account as "teh haxx!" from using an unreleased radio.
If you plan to do a lot of tethering, wired or wireless, I don't suggest you flash it. Other than that you really have nothing to worry about.
Just call tech and tell them the phone wont boot, they cant get you to trouble shoot a phone that wont boot up. They never check the phones you warranty out. I've warrantied out phones with cracked screens, water damage, you name it.
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If you plan to do a lot of tethering, wired or wireless, I don't suggest you flash it. Other than that you really have nothing to worry about.
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Why do you recommend not flashing the new radio if you are tethering?
Because, it isn't released yet. There have been reports (i.e. claims) of VZW cracking down on people who tether a lot and are running the unreleased radio. True or not, it's your decision.
When the ThunderBolt came out I had the iPhone 4. I had just gotten it from my sister's line 14 days before. I was going to upgrade from the 16gb to the 32gb but then I saw the ThunderBolt and changed my mind. Since I've had the BlackBerry Storm (CrackBerry was my favorite site), the iPhone 3GS (Jailbroken) Moto Droid OG (Rooted), Incredible (Rooted), I have had a long line of never leaving my phone stock. My iPhone 4 was no different. I was at work and didn't have time to un-Jailbreak it so I left it that way and brought it to the store. The reps took back the phone and I got the ThunderBolt. Needless to say, the reps are all about making money and trying to up sell you on accessories. They barely ever check the software of the phone.
related but a bit off topic
Dumb question.. This is related but, a bit off topic, since I'm gonna wait and root once gingerbread arrives (yeah yeah, i know), if I install the new UNROOTED Ruu will I still be able to receive the OTA version incase anything is different or changed in it? Also, will it affect getting OTA gingerbread??? Thanks to all!
When I got my Thunderbolt the rep told me about this site and we had a discussion about rooting. He had an iPhone4 which was jailbroken. He was going to get a Thunderbolt and he was looking forward to rooting it and trying some ROM's.
Another rep came over and joined the discussion. They obviously are 'unofficially' fine with it.
Your mileage may vary with reps. They aren't supposed to activate or look at any phone with third party software. But after activating my t-bolt and talking to a rep about rooting it he mentioned he turned away a kid with a X with liberty1.5. Just don't come in like and asshole. Think of your job, you're more than willing to go above and beyond for someone thats 'cool' and not looking for something for nothing.
Worse comes to worse, if you purchased the monthly warranty for your phone just tell them you lost it and pay the fee to get another one. That way they have no clue about anything.
Just pull the battery incase you have the find my android activated with them
Unless I'm mistaken, you can head over to this XDA thread and download the stock radio (1.12.605.6 = stock CDMA radio & 1.16.00.0223r = stock LTE radio)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045081
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(The following text is re-posted from the above URL) :
Lastly (for now), we have the 1.12.605.6 CDMA/LTE radio combo.
CDMA Radio version: 1.16.00.0223r
LTE radio version that came with 1.12.605.6
http://www.multiupload.com/J0K4DL6SMQ
or
http://dougpiston.com/ThunderBolt/Radios/1.12.605.6_CDMA_1.13.605.7_LTE_radio-PG05IMG.zip
(rename to PG05img.zip)
MD5 - A740031D09FC97D1B48FBEDFE73FDD24
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I hope that helps you with your decision regarding your wife's phone.
Best,
M.

Successfully made phone call with flyer[7/10 not dev devices]

Someone in Taiwan successfully made phone call with flyer.
There's a youtube video and a thread opened in Mobile01, but not yet are there any details on how it is done
Just happy to know it is achievable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4adPUV41XLg
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=605&t=2216796&p=1
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7/10 not dev devices , some stores can do s-on to s-off , for a price of NT1380 (US48)
it needs a s-off flyer..
so no hope for now
yes, I just saw that on "flyer android development"
so some people just happen to get a s-off flyer, randomly?
(sorry if the question is dumb, these root and s-off thing are new to me)
they are dev-devices
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they are dev-devices
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nope, I am sure they are not dev devices
because some stores is doing it for people at the price of NT1380 (US 48)
s-on to s-off plus phone call ability
But if the guy is aimimg at making money, and looks like he's getting a lot of customers, it won't be soon until he share the way
http://tw.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/d56715325?&u=:htcapbw&tp=
Gr8 news but if they do it over web its gonna be better for all of us
Instead of the device must be in hand
For me I'll pay $50 for such gr8 work
B.r.
Sent from my HTC ⓢⓔⓝⓢⓐⓣⓘⓞⓝ
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nope, I am sure they are not dev devices
because some stores is doing it for people at the price of NT1380 (US 48)
s-on to s-off plus phone call ability
But if the guy is aimimg at making money, and looks like he's getting a lot of customers, it won't be soon until he share the way
http://tw.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/d56715325?&u=:htcapbw&tp=
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Why don`t some Chinese XDA members try this ? How come they didn`t try it yet ? Are the sellers reliable guys ?
I want to use flyer as a phone
I recently bought an S Off Flyer and it came with a ROM that allows phone calls.
csasek said:
I recently bought an S Off Flyer and it came with a ROM that allows phone calls.
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Where you bought it from?
Talk, talk talk......
Please post the details from Settings/About tablet/ Software information , then we may start to take notice!
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Talk, talk talk......
Please post the details from Settings/About tablet/ Software information , then we may start to take notice!
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I totally agree with you! I believe people just bluffing....just to make us jealous, cause our devices are not able to do what their devices does.....
C'Mon we want phone call option
Proof is in the YouTube videos. Also note the previous posts about s-off devices which are rootable and allow changes to the system files. If I had a s-off device, I'd start by comparing the dialer file size.
I'm still on the fence whether I would use the device as a phone... I guess if I'm paying for a data plan and it includes voice. But I've only got the WiFi version.
If you use a third party process viewer (i.e. Astro File Manager), there is a Phone app using memory. Opening the app takes you to the familiar phone settings tab... Which allows you to configure Internet calling. Maybe more with a CDMA or GSM capable radio.... Which i don't have.
GrooveIP
I was able to get my HTC Flyer to work as phone with Google Voice using GrooveIP. GrooveIP is available from the Android Market. Once you install it, it will asks you to enter your Google Voice phone number (you can get one for free when you apply for Google voice). Then connect. That's it. I was able to make US and International calls. I am not sure if they are charging me via my Google Voice account, but I will check. Note, you will need Internet connection (WiFi or Sprint View 4G...I have a HTC Flyer with WiFi only connected via WiFi to my Verizon FIOS wireless router).
I also got Pdanet Tablet (beta) to work with my Sprint EVO 4G phone via Bluetooth tethering. So, I believe my tablet has full-time phone functionality as long as I am connected to my Sprint EVO 4G phone.

[Q] View 4G - Error Code 1233 on Updates

On a stock View I'm continually getting error code 1233 when I try to check for firmware/profile/PRL updates. The device has not been activated with Sprint. What should I do?
In what state did you acquire your view? I discovered my refurbished view was pre-s-off/revolutionary when I received it. This making it impossible to install ota's through normal means.
Same Error here
I'm getting the same errors on my new view. It did install one update as soon as I turned it on and connected to WIFI (only use WIFI).
I purchased mine from 1SAD, listed as new and appeared to be new when it arrived.
How would I know if S-Off was installed?
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I'm getting the same errors on my new view. It did install one update as soon as I turned it on and connected to WIFI (only use WIFI).
I purchased mine from 1SAD, listed as new and appeared to be new when it arrived.
How would I know if S-Off was installed?
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Mine is also from 1SAD, so it should be brand new (it looks that way).
I assume we are getting these errors from the System Updates page in Settings because I/we have not activated a Sprint plan - just using the View as a WiFi device
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I assume we are getting these errors from the System Updates page in Settings because I/we have not activated a Sprint plan - just using the View as a WiFi device
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Is this going to affect anything as far as software updates or does it not matter if I'm wi-fi only?
+1 for me too.. Getting the same error. Bought mine new from Ebay, shipped to Canada. Obviously won't be activated on Sprint (was never planning to). Just use WiFi.
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Is this going to affect anything as far as software updates or does it not matter if I'm wi-fi only?
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Software updates from Settings->System Updates->HTC software update continue to download per normal over WiFI
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Software updates from Settings->System Updates->HTC software update continue to download per normal over WiFI
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Yep - I was able to get the HTC software update with no trouble. Just making sure the other updates aren't critical for non-Sprint use.
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Yep - I was able to get the HTC software update with no trouble. Just making sure the other updates aren't critical for non-Sprint use.
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Well not having a Sprint Data Plan I couldn't say what those updates have consisted of.
We would need a View user with Data Plan to comment
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+1 for me too.. Getting the same error. Bought mine new from Ebay, shipped to Canada. Obviously won't be activated on Sprint (was never planning to). Just use WiFi.
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Same here (except the Canada part)... Bought from Bid Allies on ebay, getting the same errors.
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Same here (except the Canada part)... Bought from Bid Allies on ebay, getting the same errors.
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Add me to the list I get same error. I also bought from Bid Allies! Deal of day costed me $15 more than normal selling price of same thing on ebay
Go into the development forum and look for godzson's post with the official update. If you look at my posts too I already put a link up from my dropbox with the update. Once you get it you can do it manually.
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Go into the development forum and look for godzson's post with the official update. If you look at my posts too I already put a link up from my dropbox with the update. Once you get it you can do it manually.
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Thanks.. Will check it out
Downloading HoneyComb 3.2.1 Update via HTC Software Update
I got my View from Bid Allies on eBay and the Fujistu Stylus (from their website) running on WFi. No activation with Sprint.
Just went into Settings>Software Update > HTC Software Update > and there it was the Honeycomb OS update waiting for me on all its 216.96MB glory. The View was never rooted and I have no plans to do so at the moment.
Gingerbread is running very smoothly for me though. We'll see how well Honeycomb runs.
brown14you said:
I got my View from Bid Allies on eBay and the Fujistu Stylus (from their website) running on WFi. No activation with Sprint.
Just went into Settings>Software Update > HTC Software Update > and there it was the Honeycomb OS update waiting for me on all its 216.96MB glory. The View was never rooted and I have no plans to do so at the moment.
Gingerbread is running very smoothly for me though. We'll see how well Honeycomb runs.
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This thread is about updating the firmware / profile / PRL...
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Correction for me...I'm actually getting error code 1012. I'm running stock HC.
No Sprint Activation, updated with HC, no error code
I got my HTC View on 1saleaday. I did one software update (Version 1.22.651.2) prior to the HC update. This was before the HC update came out. Installed the HC update (Version 2.23.651.1) without a hitch. I never rooted my device nor activated any data plan with Sprint. It took about 10 to 15 minutes for the update to download over wifi, install and auto-reboot.
I hope this info helps somebody out.
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I got my HTC View on 1saleaday. I did one software update (Version 1.22.651.2) prior to the HC update. This was before the HC update came out. Installed the HC update (Version 2.23.651.1) without a hitch. I never rooted my device nor activated any data plan with Sprint. It took about 10 to 15 minutes for the update to download over wifi, install and auto-reboot.
I hope this info helps somebody out.
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This thread is about updating the firmware / profile / PRL...not Honeycomb
Did you get any solution to this. I am in the same boat. HTC update says that no updates exists and other link Profile, prl etc. gives the 1233 error. Bought it from 1sad. So there is no updates waiting for me
Thx
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Did you get any solution to this. I am in the same boat. HTC update says that no updates exists and other link Profile, prl etc. gives the 1233 error. Bought it from 1sad. So there is no updates waiting for me
Thx
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I already answered this and others did as well-
We are getting these errors from the System Updates page in Settings because I/we have not activated a Sprint plan - just using the View as a WiFi device
Regular software updates such as HC - work just fine

[Q View] view with no sprint = bad idea?

Hi
First please pardon my english
I'm new in all these android things, and i'm interested in buying Evo view 4g because of it's price and all it's positive review
but since i live outside us/europe (FYI i live in indonesia) i wont be able to get sprint contract
there's this 1 negative review, i'll paste it here
IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SIGN UP FOR A TWO YEAR SPRINT PLAN READ THE NEXT PARAGRAPH !
If you intend to use this without connecting it to a Sprint Account there are some things you should consider before making this purchase:
1: You will NOT ever be able to update the Profile, Firmware or PRL of this device. This is very bad.
2: The Cellular network radios will always be on. They will create a SIGNIFICANT drain on your battery as they will be in constant scan mode unable to connect. There are ways around this. There is some software available on the Official Android Marketplace called "Network" that can take you to a page where you can modify the radio settings. It is not 100% reliable, and if you read through the comments on that Applications Review page you will see that it is not working for everyone. There are more permanent ways to deal with cell radios if you are willing and able to root your Evo View 4g. That is a complicated process and as of now many of the "fixes" for cell radios are PERMANENT meaning once you disable them , you can never get them back.
3: You are going to get nagged to death. Each time you boot the tablet you will be presented with a Sprint screen that urges you to activate the device. You will not be able to set your own homepage in the default browser, as, until you have activated the phone Sprint spams bloat at you instructing you to contact a Sprint Rep asap. This will happen during use as well, though it seems to happen randomly, and not very often, but it will happen if you do not disable the Radios.
4: Sprint will often interrupt whatever you are doing on the tablet to remind you that you have not activated it yet..........
5: The screen is not as sharp, vivid or responsive as that of the Best Buy Flyer.
This tablet may not "REQUIRE" a Sprint account for "use" but the features and functionality of this tablet are greatly lessened if you do not have a Sprint Account.
If you want to use this as a wifi only device this is a very poor choice of purchase. You are MUCH better off snagging a wifi only Flyer.
Bottom line the View / Flyer are great tablets, but, if you do not plan to sign up for a Sprint account this is NOT the right tablet for you. Sprint has purposefully built in crippling features to those who use it without a Sprint Account.
I am very sorry I purchased this. I really wish I had just gone with another Flyer.
I am pretty ticked off at the merchant too.......... Claiming that this does not "REQUIRE" a Sprint account to use is the same thing as saying that a Honda Civic does not "REQUIRE" headlights to drive.
Think this over very carefully...... The price really isn't that great.......
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because this 14th of march my friend who lives in US will come to indonesia, it's $100-$200 cheaper to buy in US than in indonesia, so i have less than 2 weeks to decide on what tablets to buy
in indonesia CDMA have better internet quality compared to GSM, that's why i'm considering view to be my 1st android tablet, since i can't use sprint service, i'll have to inject the tablet with indonesian CDMA provider, will i miss a lot of things like the review above stated? especially #1
1: You will NOT ever be able to update the Profile, Firmware or PRL of this device. This is very bad.
Thank you
Wow, that reviewer doesn't know a thing about the tablet. All of that is completely false. Pretty much everyone around here doesn't use the device on Sprint.
1. The firmware updates come from HTC via the internet. While Sprint has a hand in approving them, they don't actually send them out. I had no problems downloading, installing, and using the OTA Honeycomb update without any Sprint service. You don't need any PRL updates if you're not using it on Sprint.
2. You can easily turn the cellular radios off - it's called airplane mode. You can still use WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS in airplane mode. There are also other simple ways to deactivate them discussed in this thread.
3. When you boot up the tablet from being turned completely off, you get a prompt to activate it, which you can quickly dismiss. There are no other Sprint prompts at any time. There's no "nagging" whatsoever. And you can even get rid of that activation prompt with root or without root.
4. There are never any interruptions to activate the tablet after the first one when booting it up.
5. The screen is exactly the same as the screen on the Flyer.
Now, as far as being able to use it on an Indonesian CDMA provider, that's something I can't authoritatively give an answer on. In the U.S., it can be successfully flashed to be used on only one other CDMA carrier - Boost - and that's because Boost uses Sprint's network. I'd say there's a good chance you may not be able to use it with any Indonesian CDMA carrier, but I can't say for sure.
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Wow, that reviewer doesn't know a thing about the tablet. All of that is completely false. Pretty much everyone around here doesn't use the device on Sprint.
1. The firmware updates come from HTC via the internet. While Sprint has a hand in approving them, they don't actually send them out. I had no problems downloading, installing, and using the OTA Honeycomb update without any Sprint service. You don't need any PRL updates if you're not using it on Sprint.
2. You can easily turn the cellular radios off - it's called airplane mode. You can still use WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS in airplane mode. There are also other simple ways to deactivate them discussed in this thread.
3. When you boot up the tablet from being turned completely off, you get a prompt to activate it, which you can quickly dismiss. There are no other Sprint prompts at any time. There's no "nagging" whatsoever. And you can even get rid of that activation prompt with root or without root.
4. There are never any interruptions to activate the tablet after the first one when booting it up.
5. The screen is exactly the same as the screen on the Flyer.
Now, as far as being able to use it on an Indonesian CDMA provider, that's something I can't authoritatively give an answer on. In the U.S., it can be successfully flashed to be used on only one other CDMA carrier - Boost - and that's because Boost uses Sprint's network. I'd say there's a good chance you may not be able to use it with any Indonesian CDMA carrier, but I can't say for sure.
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wow thank you for the answer, i think i'll get this baby then
is the offer from amazon $289 the best offer atm in US? i'm planning on buying the stylus and screen guard also
when i tried to search in google about where to buy, all i got is reviews with no store that sells this product except for amazon, and yes i have no knowledge about international stores
One thing that kept me away from the view was the updates such as possible ICS will have to be pushed by sprint. I would assume just like a phone that the updates are controlled by the carrier and if they want you to have it. This alone makes the flyer a better deal in my opinion. This is am assumption of course. Also with out having a sim slot this becomes very limited on what carriers it can be used on. I know the flyer comes without sim access but the view is locked to sprint. The 32gb model looked very appealing at 250 but the negatives out weigh the positives.
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One thing that kept me away from the view was the updates such as possible ICS will have to be pushed by sprint. I would assume just like a phone that the updates are controlled by the carrier and if they want you to have it. This alone makes the flyer a better deal in my opinion. This is am assumption of course.
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As I mentioned in my post, this isn't true. While Sprint does approve the updates, the updates are actually built and sent out by HTC. This is the case with Android phones as well - the manufacturers build and send out the updates with the carrier's approval. The carrier does not push them out. My View has never been activated on Sprint, and I received the OTA update to Honeycomb shortly after I purchased it. It all works via the internet and has nothing to do with cellular connectivity. You'll still get any and all official updates on the View even if it's never been activated with Sprint.
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callmeanoob said:
wow thank you for the answer, i think i'll get this baby then
is the offer from amazon $289 the best offer atm in US? i'm planning on buying the stylus and screen guard also
when i tried to search in google about where to buy, all i got is reviews with no store that sells this product except for amazon, and yes i have no knowledge about international stores
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The lowest I can find for current prices via a quick search is $274.94 on eBay. It's been down as low as $239 brand new a few times over the past three months, so it will probably drop again. But if you're operating in a specific time frame for the purchase, that range seems to be what they're currently going for.

Have you received an OTA Update?

This morning I realized that my phone had not received any OTAs yet, so I sideloaded the MDA89D to MDB08K zip (find it here) and then got the MDB08L OTA notification as soon as the phone booted up.
In talking with friends with a 6P and looking at other threads, there seem to be a lot of users that are still on the factory MDA89D build, so I'm wondering if the delay is carrier specific.
FWIW, I activated my 6P without a SIM card and then have been using it with T-Mobile. Checking available updates always showed nothing was available.
It seems like Verizon users are not getting OTAs yet, as expected from an existing thread. T-Mobile users *should* be getting one since they are turning Band 12 off with it.
havanahjoe said:
It seems like Verizon users are not getting OTAs yet, as expected from an existing thread. T-Mobile users *should* be getting one since they are turning Band 12 off with it.
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OTA got nothing to do with carrier you are on.
Sent from my Nexus 6P
I did not receive the OTA, but I did flash the new factory image as soon as I unlocked the bootloader.
yes just received phone in the mail today after setting everything up I got the OTA update installed with no problem
I simply just change the date few weeks forward. I didn't receive both updates soon so I just fast forwarded date a little. Then updates pop up on both times. Should give it a try before going on a manual flash route.
Didn't have to do anything, it just arrived while I was updating my S5 to 5.1.1.
Was reading an article recently where a Google engineer explained how updates go.
1% get the update first, if no problems
25% get the update, if no problems
50% get the update, if no problems
Etc etc
No mention of a time frame between percentages though.
I got the device Friday, on k version, got the l update earlier today.
Expect to see them monthly as Google is releasing security updates on a monthly basis now.
Need one for carrier less. Updated before putting sim in.
Got an OTA this AM on Fi Sittin on MDB08L. I have an unlocked bootloader as well.
I got my 6P today and turned it on. As soon as I signed into my Google account it told me that I required a software update. Didn't even finish the setup wizard before it downloaded and installed.
I ordered through Project Fi as soon as I got my invite. They sent the sim with it and I put it in and turned it on. Boom, update.
Yep got one today.
sharpehenry said:
I simply just change the date few weeks forward. I didn't receive both updates soon so I just fast forwarded date a little. Then updates pop up on both times. Should give it a try before going on a manual flash route.
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Interesting method, if the updates are IMEI based as it is believed, this shouldn't work.
Phazmos said:
Was reading an article recently where a Google engineer explained how updates go.
1% get the update first, if no problems
25% get the update, if no problems
50% get the update, if no problems
Etc etc
No mention of a time frame between percentages though.
I got the device Friday, on k version, got the l update earlier today.
Expect to see them monthly as Google is releasing security updates on a monthly basis now.
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It's interesting to see that, so far, most voters who have not received an update are on another carrier (or carrier-less), or Verizon. I was interested in seeing what Sprint users are experiencing, but there has only been one Sprint user voting so far (a friend on Sprint has not received any).
nrfitchett4 said:
Need one for carrier less. Updated before putting sim in.
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Unfortunately, I can't edit it, but, no carrier would fall under "Other Carrier"
sharpehenry said:
I simply just change the date few weeks forward. I didn't receive both updates soon so I just fast forwarded date a little. Then updates pop up on both times. Should give it a try before going on a manual flash route.
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Already flashed the update through mskip's toolkit. No wiping of data required though it flashes the whole ROM, not just the update (900mb).
I'm on AT&T. I got the first OTA when I turned the phone on for the first time, but where the hell is the November security patch? I thought it was supposed to start rolling out on November 1, yet it is November 10 and I still don't have it? What the hell Google? I understand a slow rollout of a major update, but security patches should be available to everyone on day 1, if not automatically, then sure as hell if they press the damn update button in settings. This is why companies don't take Google seriously when they talk about security.
I click "Check for Update" and nothing happens, says last time it was checked was November 30th. Tried rebooting, rebooting with no sim card . . . any ideas??
Just got one. Taking FOREVER to optimize apps. Painfully slow.
Just got my update through Telus in Canada. Installing right now.
just got 128gb 6P and got it activated on Sprint .. OTA about 15-20min after

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