HTC Flyer - £179! - HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G

http://m.hotukdeals.com/deals/16gb-htc-flyer-179-10-dixons-co-uk-1099941
Anyone recommend me the WiFi model? Will it get ICS?
Or shall I wait for newer tabs?
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Too early to say if it will have ICS, but the specs pretty much support it. 1.5ghz single core, 1gb ddr2.
Really going to depend on HTC if you get the 3G version or the CDMA View but I don't think you guys have CDMA across the pond.
IMO, nothing out there matches the Flyer/Flyer3G/Evo View for the price in 7" tablets. But CES 2012 may bring new stuff.

kaijura said:
Too early to say if it will have ICS, but the specs pretty much support it. 1.5ghz single core, 1gb ddr2.
Really going to depend on HTC if you get the 3G version or the CDMA View but I don't think you guys have CDMA across the pond.
IMO, nothing out there matches the Flyer/Flyer3G/Evo View for the price in 7" tablets. But CES 2012 may bring new stuff.
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THANKS!
If I decide to get one, I'd go for a WiFi version anyway
HTC just released Honeycomb, so I'm in doubt if HTC will release anything after!
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got s-off and root before the hc update incase I cant do it after.

So.. kinda old topic now...
but did anyone get the Flyer at this price?
No, seeing that HTC is looking to give ICS, it makes this tablet more appealing!
Shame i passed ou on the deal.. If the deal was still available, I'd get one now.

olyloh6696 said:
So.. kinda old topic now...
but did anyone get the Flyer at this price?
No, seeing that HTC is looking to give ICS, it makes this tablet more appealing!
Shame i passed ou on the deal.. If the deal was still available, I'd get one now.
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I bought the 32gb version with 3G for £224 instead. They sold out really quickly though.

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I bought the 32gb version with 3G for £224 instead. They sold out really quickly though.
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So how do you find it?
Is it worth the money?
Is the hardware relatively good considering the new batch of dual cores tablets etc?
Did you put Honeycomb on it?
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Is the hardware relatively good considering the new batch of dual cores tablets etc?
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you mean batch of quadcore tablets? Asus Prime is the nextgen currently available and i got one its sooo much better, finally android has a real feel of snappy and ease of use.

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you mean batch of quadcore tablets? Asus Prime is the nextgen currently available and i got one its sooo much better, finally android has a real feel of snappy and ease of use.
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Nice! My Dad is interested in getting one too...
Have you owned the Flyer?
How dies it stack up against the quad core beast ?
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olyloh6696 said:
So how do you find it?
Is it worth the money?
Is the hardware relatively good considering the new batch of dual cores tablets etc?
Did you put Honeycomb on it?
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Its worth the money to me. I've wanted one since they were first released, but couldn't justify the high price tag at the time. I specifically wanted to be able to use the stylus for note-taking etc, so 10" quad-core tablets etc without stylus input wouldn't suit my needs.
I have LeeDroid's honeycomb ROM on it. Works great, and its nice to be able to use the stylus everywhere instead of just in the notes app.
I have no regrets regarding my purchase at all.

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Have you owned the Flyer?
How dies it stack up against the quad core beast ?
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i got a wifi-flyer and got hc on it right now. i primarily got it to upgrade my old elocitya7(7") since i could not get hc on it working properly. you cannot compare to a quadcore tablet although it has stylus. the OS is now acting very different, and HTC has always made the OS weak because of resource issues and their launcher is still not perfect.
but generally ok, but unless its £179, its probably not the best buy.
if you do not want stylus capabilities, and still want a 7", you should look at Acer a100. its priced around the same level.
i am a little fan of htc widgets and always been so thats kinda second reason to get a 7" htc instead of tegra2 7" acer.
but the stylus is a nice addon, i tried it and appreciate having it now.

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HTC Flyer.

Hi.
Amobil.no a Norwegian mobile-newssite realesed a lot of the specs for the upcomming HTC tablet, HTC Flyer, yesterday.
I won't write the whole article, but here are the specs known today:
HTC Flyer
Form: Tablet
Technologies: HSPA - speeds up to 14,4 / 5,76 Mbps, DLNA
Camera: 1,3 megapixels secondary, 5 megapixels primary
Communication: Skype pre-installed video conferencing
CPU / Chipset: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255
Storage/Memory: 4 GB ROM, 1 GB RAM
Skjerm: 7 inches, 1025 x 600 pixels, capasitive screen with stylus
Connectors: HDMI
Memory card: Unknown (presumed Micro-SD)
OS / User interface: Android 2.3 Gingerbread, HTC Sense adapted for tablets​
Because I'm new here I can't post links to the news article...But if anyone could do it for me it would be grate
Here's the link: http://www.amobil.no/artikler/full_specs_of_htc_flyer_revealed/80837
And a new source confirmes HTC Flyer: http://www.amobil.no/artikler/new_source_confirms_htc_flyer/80880
Wow this looks pretty nice. More specs on the device would be nice. But I'm all for HTC devices.
Someone know's something about the price?
Pricing info
roar109 said:
Someone know's something about the price?
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price info link "Amazon Germany has revealed a 670 Euro price point – that’s just over USD $900."
Very nice device!
Any comparisons with Xoom?
The Xoom ( for purity ) or this seem like the only ones I am interested in... all depends on price though.
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I like the tablet and inovation htc has put into the software and hardware but the battery life is only 4 hours of video playback compared to other tablets like galaxy tab which is also 7 inch which is 6 hours and the bigger xoom and a lot of others which are 8-10+. That has really let it down for me =[. My bet the problem is the the processer is a hungry one for battery not like Tegra 2 and other types.
I can used like mobile phone?
A Dutch webshop also added the flyer to there products for €699.
It's a reliable site, and they have a pretty good relation with HTC.
However there is some false (HDMI connection) and some premature (2.4 ice-cream) info so I wonder how accurate the price is.
Well the OS does look totally different. I know its sense but its completely different
http://www.htc.com/www/product/flyer/overview.html
Scroll down to 3d fun at every turn. Given the processor I am really not gonna complain about battery life
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A Dutch webshop also added the flyer to there products for €699.
It's a reliable site, and they have a pretty good relation with HTC.
However there is some false (HDMI connection) and some premature (2.4 ice-cream) info so I wonder how accurate the price is.
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It would also be VERY important for HTC to commit to Honeycomb otherwise, there is no way I would spend that amount of money on something that could be obsolete so fast...
If HTC tablet could have the sound quality of Cowon products, I would be all over this thing...
I thought HTC were joking when they said they're realising a tablet without Honeycomb. And that ugly sense. I mean it looks good on the phones, but on the tablets.
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I think it's smart. The XOOM won't ship with flash because it's not ready for Honeycomb. Also, Honeycomb isn't designed for stylus input.
The version of the OS is not as important as the features and the experience IMO. If the experience is right, then I am gonna have one!
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Yes, you can. It has Quad Band.
See: http://www.htc.com/www/product/flyer/specification.html
To follow up on the last post, does the Flyer do 3G on At&t? Thanks for the heads up on the voice option.
Does anyone think the price is a bit steep for a single core non-Honeycomb tablet as per previous postings?
I am looking to get a 7" tablet usable on At&t with 3g and voice in the next 3-4 months.
I ranked them as follows:
1. Acer A100
2. HTC Flyer
3. Viewpad 7.
What do you guys think?
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To follow up on the last post, does the Flyer do 3G on At&t? Thanks for the heads up on the voice option.
Does anyone think the price is a bit steep for a single core non-Honeycomb tablet as per previous postings?
I am looking to get a 7" tablet usable on At&t with 3g and voice in the next 3-4 months.
I ranked them as follows:
1. Acer A100
2. HTC Flyer
3. Viewpad 7.
What do you guys think?
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Regarding 3G, i believe that will be there. But for AT&T that is another matter. The EU version will have it, but not sure what HTC is planning for AT&T 3G.
Regarding price, I have bought my devices from CLOVE; See: clove.co.uk/htc-flyer. Their price for HTC Flyer is GBP 466.
As far as final specs are concerned, I inquired from HTC about a HDMI output through the microusb and their response yesterday was.
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Dear g,
im afraid that we dont have any information on these devices yet, we are waiting for the devices to go to press before we can comment on them.
please keep checking the website for more information about these when we get it.
Sincerely,
Joseph
HTC
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I was a bit puzzeled by this response, as I was speaking with HTC not some marketer out in WoopWoop ! Go figure !
Final specs will be known soon.
I think there are a few other great tablets that will be out soon. Like the Motorola xoom. Some people are saying that the Flyer cpu 1.5Ghz although fast is not as good as the Tegra 2 chip......which many new tablets are incorporating and many are saying the same thing, although all agree that the os and software may not be up to speed to fully take advantage of the Tegra 2 chip, but still produces fabulous results.
But what I like about the HTC Flyer is two things. One is the forum here at xda-developers. There is nothing quite like it. Secondly, relating directly to the device is the stylus application. I have seen several good videos on youtube on its functionality and I really like it for the kind of things that I am involved in. So, it's a unique feature that no one else offers. I will personally find it very useful.
However I really like what some of the other tablet manufacturers are doing with having a full USB port on the device as well as a HDMI port.......that's cool.
globalgpj, thanks for the info. Like you, I don't usually buy a device unless it is supported by XDA with custom ROM. I currently have the G-Tab with the newest TNT Lite ROM. It is fast and I love it. Without voice or 3G, I have to bring my phone to tether which is a bummer. I'll wait until summer when all the devices hopefully will be announced or released. Thanks.
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Unfortunaltely it looks like this won't be possible.
I was looking for a replacement for my old X7510 - however without phone function - useless.
Dieter
can the htc flyer makes phone calls/ sms without internet . . sim card slot . .????
lookin forward to let go my hd2 for this flyer.

HTC 10" Tablet coming this June !

Hi Everyone,
I am excited as many of you are about the stylus/scribe feature that the HTC Flyer is coming out with, supposingly this month....according to Clove.co.uk.
According to seveal sites, mostly using the same info, HTC is releasing a 8.9 and 10 inch tablet, coming out this June 2011.
http://www.dkszone.net/htc-10-inch-touchpad-release-june
http://blog.gsmarena.com/an-unannou...-inch-samsung-tablet-come-alive-in-rumorland/
Apparently, they will have some updatetd hardware along with hopefully the stylus/scribe feature.....I am sure, since this is key to their tablet marketing strategy.
Although I like the idea of a 7" screen for portability, I won't shy away from a larger one, especially if it has some better hardware. i.e. ports, cpu, memory etc..
I really hope this is true!!
The flyer looks amazing but it could be so much more with bigger screen and such
I've also read somewhere that the other tablets will come with nvidia tegra
I hope they come out soon, I was going to get flyer, but these sound something to wait for
Is the pen input pretty precise on these models?
From what I've heard its really good
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Should edit the title: it's not 8.9", its 10" only.
The 8.9" is a Samsung.
Dual core finally!
10 inch is still fine with me !!
And yes the almighty dual core, nor just to ponder if they choose the same 1.2 in eve 3d/sensation, or they don't underclock it and leave it at 1.5 or NVIDIA tegra 2 either way it'll be beast
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And also, 3d features anyone?
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they definitely rushed th flyer out!
True, but in comparison most of the other tablets so far only have stock versions of Android at last we have a dam good version of sense
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Judging by the price of the 7' flyer, steve jobs and bill gates will be the only people able to afford it
If ur in the US don't complain its hfslf the price it is in Europe
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yea $500 does not seem terrible, and honestly sense will make this thing a beauty to use. I plan on trying this thing out for work, and hopefully getting the company to at least entertain the idea of using the note taking ability. I would like to see HTC offer the ability to turn off sense like you used to be able to do in winmo 6.1, would be nice to have the option for stock honeycomb when it happens. Also let's not forget this is an HTC device, i'm sure this thing will be rootable/hackable to no end!
And for the record, i hope they just stop with the whole 3d bs, hope that tech never catches on
Ye, I plan on using mine for school, taking notes in my classes, should be perfect, its well worth it for me,
P.s. is there any information available on where HTC watch will be available? Cos itunes and others don't sell or rent movies in Norway was wondering if HTC have the rights to do so, seeing as is advertised on website like all other countries :/
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htowngator said:
Should edit the title: it's not 8.9", its 10" only.
The 8.9" is a Samsung.
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Just updated the title, thanks.
I am more happy anyway with a 10" anyway.
I certainly hope HTC keeps the stylus feature in this larger tablet. That would be perfect for my requirements.
Well.....June is just around the corner.......looks like summer is going to be a great Android Tablet month.
Here's something from The Tech Journal, May 6th 2011........it has a picture of the 10" tablet. Real or not ???
http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/tablet/htc-android-tablet.xhtml
HTC need to release more 5-9 inches tablets, 10 is too much for mobile use..
I thought I read somewhere that Pegatron is also one of the iPad 2 manufacturers along with Foxconn... Not good news if HTC is going with them. Just look at all the supply problem Asus is having with its Transformer.
I heard that price will be ~799+$
Official announcement will come out once the Flyer is released. I can't wait for this, but I have a feeling it won't be out in June. Maybe later imo.
I want a 10"
tht13 said:
I really hope this is true!!
The flyer looks amazing but it could be so much more with bigger screen and such
I've also read somewhere that the other tablets will come with nvidia tegra
I hope they come out soon, I was going to get flyer, but these sound something to wait for
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I highly doubt HTC will push out an nvidia chip - mostly they have an agreement with Qualcomm for a start if I am not mistaken.
That's why when everyone was announcing dual core phones they pushed out a single core Desire S/Incredible S...
Then they fly in with the HTC Sensation with dual core to rival the Galaxy S II.
I have a Xoom at home Wifi 10" is great for home use - 7" seems a good size for out and about (aside from a phone) - so I'd be interested to see what the 10" are like to get a second tablet at home...

HTC Flyer or Samsung 7.0 Plus

Good day all. I'm a Best Buy Silver member and have 45 day returns on merchandise. Anyways I picked up the Flyer a week ago and compared to the other tabs I have owned or own (Asus, Acer A500 and A100, HP Touchpad) this is the best in terms of overall functions. Another reason why I say that is because 10 inch tabs are over-the-top; especially if they don't have any ports (that's why I kept the Acer A500). I find 7-9 inchers are more usable. This Flyer is smooth and functions properly unlike most of the Honeycomb tabs. My only concern is will HTC update this beautiful beast? So I'm posing the question to the community of whether to ditch the Flyer or wait it out. Also any input or thoughts about the Samsung 7.0 Plus and if its worth the extra $100 are appreciated
I wish HTC would say something offical and it will make my decision clear.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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Yea this tablet game is crazy. Sometimes I wish I would have been simple and gotten an iPad. Android is getting ridiculous. Anyways the inferred remote, updates, and Samsung usually has a decent amount of accessories is what's keeping me interested. I just have a bad feeling that the flyer is dead.
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its maddening. HTC built an almost perfect tablet in the FLyer and then overpriced it at introduction and has failed to support it properly now. Makes me wonder if they are exiting the tablet market.
I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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lrs421 said:
I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I think the Xoom 2 is a 8.2. I perfer the 7 inch, because I played with the Samsung 8 inch but it is tad big. I'm looking for something I can whip out in public and not look ridiculous. I think the Xoom will cost $545 though, didn't they learn anything?
http://androidcommunity.com/8-inch-...101/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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chimp
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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chimp
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Thank you, but the Nexus S is a phone, isn't it? And, yeah the 10" tab is going to be too large.
I'll have to get to Best Buy and see if they at least have an HTC Flyer on display that I can fiddle with.
I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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You are right. I looked at some benchmark test it test better then every HC tab except te Samsung 10.1
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Black Friday will probably yield some good deals, so I'm at least hanging tight for that pricing to come out before jumping on anything - and I think I'm going to sell my Ipod Touch, latest gen, NEVER use it.
Ahhh, eBay (or friends on FB, lol)
I have the flyer and I love it! It's built super solid, its very fast, and I love how it scales apps in contrast to how to Galaxy tab did. On a 7" device I would end up using more phone apps then tablet apps anyway, so I don't care about honeycomb. I love my Flyer! The only thing that may replace it is the Galaxy Note...but then again I may still keep it since its really not worth it to only get $200 used for it. Hell, I'd keep it for that just to lend out or use it as a dedicated clock!
I used to be a active user here on XDA when Wondows mobile was the "cool" Mobile OS. Then I bought a iPod Touch when my father bought into the iPhone 3G. I got sucked into Apple with the 3GS, then the 4. I bought a 64gb 3g iPad when it came out, as well...but then I bought a ATT 3g Galaxy Tab refurbished just to try out android....and fell in love.(it made me feel like I used to with windows mobile...the customization) I kept the TAB for a few months then decided to sell both my iPad and my Tab and buy a iPad wifi for cheap, and a Flyer. I canceled my contract and used my unlimited ipad SIM in my Jailbroken iPhone 4....Loving life($30 a month is my only phone bill!)! That iPhone may be downgraded to a mp3 player though....since I am eye balling the Galaxy Note now.
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I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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The WiFi version is $300 on Amazon. But yes, the GSM one that I want is still pretty pricey. If I got the original Tab, though, I'd just pick it up from eBay or the forums or something. Or, maybe it will be on sale during Black Friday, since any retailers that still have them need to clear their inventory to make room for the Plus.
This is a hard decision, to be honest. After doing some more research on the Flyer, it seems that the easiest one to acquire in the States (the WiFi one from Best Buy), is also the one that throws up hurdles for modders, such as the inability to go back to stock from a custom ROM.
Now I'm kind of back at square one, debating between the original Tab, the Tab Plus, the Flyer, the IdeaPad A1, and pending more details and reviews, the Huawei MediaPad.

HTC Evo View 4G vs Samsung Galaxy Tab 2.0 7 inch

I'm itching for Ice Cream Sandwich and I'm annoyed that we'll probably never see it, neither officially nor through XDA development. I've been eyeing the Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" which comes with ICS.
But I was wondering, how do the specs compare in terms of performance, mainly the processor/GPU and camera? It seems it has a dual core processor, so perhaps it's slightly more powerful? (The difference in storage and pen input are complete non-issues for me.)
It may also be much thinner and lighter?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-7-Inch-Wi-Fi/dp/B007P4VOWC
Paul22000 said:
I'm itching for Ice Cream Sandwich and I'm annoyed that we'll probably never see it, neither officially nor through XDA development. I've been eyeing the Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" which comes with ICS.
But I was wondering, how do the specs compare in terms of performance, mainly the processor/GPU and camera? It seems it has a dual core processor, so perhaps it's slightly more powerful? (The difference in storage and pen input are complete non-issues for me.)
It may also be much thinner and lighter?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-7-Inch-Wi-Fi/dp/B007P4VOWC
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No scribe digitised pen though ... I thought the pen was great, really useful for scribbling accurate diagrams on the fly .... and then I lost my pen Life is dreadful now, tablet is still great, but without the pen I realise its not half as useful - replacement on order & I'll be more careful with it now !
If you haven't used a Flyer for an extended period with a pen you won't realise.
It's pretty much a wash for you except you get ICS.
The 1Ghz dual core vs 1.5Ghz single core has been debated back and forth about which is faster.
I've never had a problem with speed on my view, it has a great screen, it has the pen input (for me it's become a necessity), the stand alone gps etc etc. It just works for what I need.
Galaxy tab is more expensive, has no pen input, same specs other than the processor, but comes with ICS. *shrug*
In real life applications the Flyer will be faster than the Sammy since very little software acutally can take advantage of the dual core. I played with the Sammy at bestbuy. It's ok, but ICS seems to offer very little difference from Honeycomb.
I'd be more interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note with Pen, except I would never buy anything from AT&T.
Ics uses processor optimization . So it will use both the cores efficiently . The price is only 250. Seems like a steal to me. Plus i love Samsung browser, smooth as butter . Plus it will be supported with updates. Its also very sleek. The ui is much nicer and will be smoother than sense. Honestly though , don't lie, i know you guys see the lag on the view . Its very obvious . If you say you don't see it youre just lieing to yourself.
Go for it, i would if i didn't have this tab already.
HTC is rumored to preping a Samsung Galaxy Note competitor . Should have 5-inch screen with a 1080x1920 pixels of resolution, and it will be a true RGB display. A quad-core Krait processor inside with Adreno 320 GPU The upcoming HTC device will debut Sense 5.0 and have a Scribe pen.
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j510 said:
Ics uses processor optimization . So it will use both the cores efficiently . The price is only 250. Seems like a steal to me. Plus i love Samsung browser, smooth as butter . Plus it will be supported with updates. Its also very sleek. The ui is much nicer and will be smoother than sense. Honestly though , don't lie, i know you guys see the lag on the view . Its very obvious . If you say you don't see it youre just lieing to yourself.
Go for it, i would if i didn't have this tab already.
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"processor optimization" laughable....
there is no way single threaded software can be made mutli-threaded on the fly. Marketing speak... LOL
The Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 is one of the two tablets that I'm considering to replace my View. The Nexus tablet is the other one. I'm going to wait until that comes out before I make a decision.
The guy that the Flyer crowd has "hired" to make ICS for them has said he will do a View build when he's done with the Flyer build. If that happens, I'll probably just keep the View.
j510 said:
Ics uses processor optimization . So it will use both the cores efficiently . The price is only 250. Seems like a steal to me. Plus i love Samsung browser, smooth as butter . Plus it will be supported with updates. Its also very sleek. The ui is much nicer and will be smoother than sense. Honestly though , don't lie, i know you guys see the lag on the view . Its very obvious . If you say you don't see it youre just lieing to yourself.
Go for it, i would if i didn't have this tab already.
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what's up with you? looking at the few posts you have made and you're just bashing this tablet. do you have some personal vendetta against the flyer/view or HTC?
Sell your htc tablet and buy this then
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=5071535&pid=1218605851382
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My roommate just got this tablet and if I knew it was coming out honestly I would of waited. I think the Flyer COULD be faster but stock honeycomb is rubbish on it.
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I do not have any issues with my flyer either on HC or GB. that being said it is likely the development will be more active on the Samsung Tab
Cor-master said:
My roommate just got this tablet and if I knew it was coming out honestly I would of waited. I think the Flyer COULD be faster but stock honeycomb is rubbish on it.
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Its not bad its just kind of slow. Im too used to exynos butter.
I can vouch that it seems dual core makes a bigger difference than raw speed. My flyer seemed pretty quick untill I got my vivid which is 300 MHz slower but has a dual core. That being said I don't know all the differences between hc and ics on tablets. Ics was pretty snappy on my ancient galaxy s 1 based captivate, honeycomb might be just designed around dual cores while ics is more friendly to all hardware. That being said I still love this tablet and its not slow by any means. For whatever reason with globaltrons stock ics Rom with s-OFF it does seem faster. But at any rate I paid $200 for this tab and only got it at that price because it was refurbished. The tab 2 is a brand new tab at $250 and that's a full Android tablet with all the fixings priced against glorified ereaders. I wouldn't sell my Flyer to get one now but indeed its a bargain for anyone who wants a tab and doesnt have one... Why would anyone get a kindle fire or nook tablet now?
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And yeah development is a big issue with HTC device's. They are just harder to mod than Samsungs and development is also dependent on buzz and hype. Samsung has had all the hits and they have unlocked bootloaders.
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The big issue is whether you want to be able to use a stylus or not. The trade off for not having ICS is huge.
Stock HC is FINE on the View for the capabilities you will get with the stylus--IFF you need it. Otherwise, if you are just looking for a tablet and have no need for the pen, then go for Samsung. ICS a huge improvement but if you are okay with a tablet that works very well and is useful then the View is fine.
You may want to consider the Flyer since there is far more development for it. For me, the View is a muuuuuch sexier device.
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I really don't care about the pen because the price is absurd. Besides you can always get a regular capacitive stylus. I got my Flyer because it was a cheap honeycomb tablet with good hardware and a gig of ram.
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With the Flyer discontinued and the Samsung GTab selling for $250.00 there's really little point in seeking out a Flyer if you're in the market for a 7" tablet (unless you absolutely positively must have the stylus). But if you already own a Flyer, I'd hold out for a Quad Core Tegra 3 tablet to replace the Flyer. I doubt the Samsung GTab 2.0 will feel a whole lot faster, but the new Tegra 3 tablets definitely run faster. Having played Pinball Arcade on my Flyer and an ASUS Transformer Prime, I can promise you, the difference is very obvious.
Now, me personally, I'm going to hold on to my Flyer for some time. I really like this little tablet. But I'm also about to go out and buy an ASUS Transformer TF300. Played with one in Best Buy and it's awesome, especially with the keyboard dock.
I don't plan on replacing my Flyer anytime soon. I'm planning on holding onto it for a couple years. As for the tab 2 no there aren't enough reasons to give up the flyer for one plus its got weaker cameras and less storage, but if your in the market for a tab now then yes definitely get a tab 2 over a discontinued unsupported flyer or view.
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I don't see anything close to what I need except the Samsung Galaxy Note. When I replace my phone, I'll get that. When I need more power I'm not getting a tablet, I'm getting a Asus or Toshiba Ultrabook. As thin as a tablet with 10x the power and a 14" screen.
I need a 7 inch amoled type screen tab

Htc announced they are backing out the tab buisness

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/htc-tablets-fade-us-market-firm-keeps-options-open/2012-10-09
Personaly what could of saved them were critical updates.
Nice to hear it
my htc
A somewhat misleading article. HTC only started selling the Flyer for $299.00 when the company dropped the price to move unsold inventory. At that point I believe the tablets sold rather well. I'm pretty sure HTC couldn't sell the Flyer for $299 and turn a profit. And that's pretty much why HTC has to leave the tablet market. Apple is the only manufacturer that can create consumer interest in a premium tablet, and HTC has never been a value hardware manufacturer. I suspect they don't have the resrouces to muster the necessary economies of scale.
I love my Flyer. It's a top notch device and it's carried me this far. But HTC probably needs to concentrate on phones for the time being, and wait for third parties to prove that there's a viable tablet market for non-Apple products.
Htc needs one phone and one tablet and that is all! So far the phone is close.
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HTC's statements capsize the rumors of a new 10" tablet coming anytime soon. But aside from that, there doesn't seem to be any real "news" here. It says they have discontinued tablet sales in the US. Were there any tablets that were still being sold? The Best Buy Flyer was discontinued a long time ago. If the View and Jetstream were still being sold anytime recently, and now being discontinued, it just seems the logical end-of-life for those products. They have been superceded by higher spec devices, and probably haven't been sold in any significant numbers of some time now
5", HTC tablet just announced for Japan market early December release. Quad core. 2GB of ram. Full hd screen. Tiny battery tho. Esp compared to the note 2. The note 2 is honestly what might replace my flyer next. If not then I'll hold out for next ten inch tab with super stylus 2GB ram and all that. But thia HTC phablet supposed to have a 440ppi screen
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killerskincanoe said:
5", HTC tablet just announced for Japan market early December release. Quad core. 2GB of ram. Full hd screen. Tiny battery tho. Esp compared to the note 2. The note 2 is honestly what might replace my flyer next. If not then I'll hold out for next ten inch tab with super stylus 2GB ram and all that. But thia HTC phablet supposed to have a 440ppi screen
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That's a phone
j510 said:
That's a phone
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Some folks are using the word "phablet" for a device that is a big phone, or a small tablet. Some form factors (like the Galaxy Note, and the Dell Streak before it) are starting to blur the lines a bit.
But yeah, the Butterfly J is being touted as a phone, as far as I've read.
I use both a phone (One X) and a tablet (Flyer), and I'd never give up my Flyer for a 5 inch device, or anything much smaller than 7" for that matter. I'd carry a 5" device in my pocket as phone, yes possibly. But for relaxing at home, or on a plane, 7" is likely as small as I'd ever go.
redpoint73 said:
Some folks are using the word "phablet" for a device that is a big phone, or a small tablet. Some form factors (like the Galaxy Note, and the Dell Streak before it) are starting to blur the lines a bit.
But yeah, the Butterfly J is being touted as a phone, as far as I've read.
I use both a phone (One X) and a tablet (Flyer), and I'd never give up my Flyer for a 5 inch device, or anything much smaller than 7" for that matter. I'd carry a 5" device in my pocket as phone, yes possibly. But for relaxing at home, or on a plane, 7" is likely as small as I'd ever go.
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same here, using from DHD to One X, along with my flyer.
wish the support was better, i mwean i wish there was any support from HTC.
I still think HTC will come with a tablet since they seeing how other companies make money of it they wanna jump on too.
Like HTC didnt think it is neccesary to make a phone bigger than 4,7" (One X) now they com with a 5" phone/phablet?
Same will happen with tablets, dont think they will leave the tablet game.
flipflop87 said:
same here, using from DHD to One X, along with my flyer.
wish the support was better, i mwean i wish there was any support from HTC.
I still think HTC will come with a tablet since they seeing how other companies make money of it they wanna jump on too.
Like HTC didnt think it is neccesary to make a phone bigger than 4,7" (One X) now they com with a 5" phone/phablet?
Same will happen with tablets, dont think they will leave the tablet game.
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I think it will be same sheat like flyer - only year of support for that tablet and then they will release new one.
found a cheap option to buy HTC flyer - is it worthwhile?
laptopsdirect.co.uk/HTC_Flyer_Tablet_Android_-_16_GB_-_7_Wifi_Only__99HMK053-00/version.asp[/url]
is this still worth buying seeing as it has been discontinued?
is it essential to update to latest Android OS?
thanks
warwickw75 said:
laptopsdirect.co.uk/HTC_Flyer_Tablet_Android_-_16_GB_-_7_Wifi_Only__99HMK053-00/version.asp[/url]
is this still worth buying seeing as it has been discontinued?
is it essential to update to latest Android OS?
thanks
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I wouldn't buy a wifi-only model. I bought mine because it is also a GSM phone, and that will make me hard-pressed to sell my Flyer. Even though I've since acquired an A500, my Flyer is my day to day tablet because it fits in my back pocket.
If you can find the GSM-unlocked model and the price is right, I'd go for that.
warwickw75 said:
laptopsdirect.co.uk/HTC_Flyer_Tablet_Android_-_16_GB_-_7_Wifi_Only__99HMK053-00/version.asp[/url]
is this still worth buying seeing as it has been discontinued?
is it essential to update to latest Android OS?
thanks
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I wouldn't, seeing as the hardware is well over a year old, and there are better spec'ed devices at this point. How much is the Nexus 7 in the UK? Google appears to be preparing for an update to the N7, also. The 8 GB version was recently removed from the Play Market, which is presumably in preparation for a new 32 GB version (maybe with other hardware updates?).
I use mine on a day basis, the hardware in my opinion still performs as needed. Unfortunately an official update will not happen beyond Honeycomb, there are how ever some decent custom Roms. My EVO view is overclocked on stock HC, and runs great. I would still say get a newer one just because the value of the new hardware and OS makes the updated models worth buying. My picks for tablet upgrades are Asus transformer infinity/prime (both these models are great.) Nexus 7. Both choices are worth the price IMO.
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"A great learning experience"
Thanks for posting this. Absurd quote from HTC's "global online communications manager":
"It was a great learning experience for us, and they definitely met expectations."
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A "learning experience"? What is this, high school? And whose expectations? Not mine. I had to send my Flyer in four times during the warranty period, the result of bad parts and shoddy workmanship. And after that, HTC refused to replace their faulty tablet. After the warranty expired, the charging jack failed. HTC said they would fix it, for a price. Just before I sent payment, I called to confirm and was told that they didn't have that simple part anymore because the tablet had been discontinued. They then returned my now-HTC Brick, and no one from HTC has ever responded to subsequent emails I have sent.
So no tears over HTC leaving the tablet business. No tears if they go out of business altogether, or if their CEO spontaneously combusts during a public appearance. Over a 2-3 year period, my Asus TF-101 has worked perfectly, but my HTC Flyer's a brick now, thanks to HTC's lack of foresight and lack of concern for their customers - or even for keeping their customers. Pathetic people, pathetic company.
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why is HTC doing this their tablets are AWESOME

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