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If the LG P500 doesn't get the gingerbread update,will we be able to use Cyanogen or any other things to update yourself?
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Cyanogen has not yet confirmed any development on 2.3 at this time, and the fact that the OO, OT, and OS are not really the same phone, there is still no telling how the Cyanogen team will release a ROM.
everything is still very early and there are no real answers until the next few months.
I'm just wondering why the development community for the Photon has been so slow. I am not complaining, and am extremely greatful for everyone's work on the projects that keep us modders happy. I'm simply curioius as to whether or not there's a specific issue (an unreleased SDK, just a difficult phone to develop for, etc) as there have been several phones that have come out since the MoPho and already have more roms/kernals/etc. Again, this is simply out of curiosity. Thank you for any answers that you guys can provide.
Ive asked the same thing for a long time i still dont get it
It's the working mans phone, plus its not plagued with issues
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I'm just glad we have come this far...
Slow?.... we have miui and cm7 with jokers skinny rom and even sockmonkey....over 10+ oc/uv gpu enhanced kernels up to 1.5giggityhurtz ....
Only other thing I can see being modded is our pos pentile screen.....
Every optimized or enhanced android setting I come across that seem possible to port to our kernels/roms I send it jokers way cause he knows best if its worth a look or not.
So any suggestions that adds to our current awsomeness..by all means say so....
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Custodian said:
Slow?.... we have miui and cm7 with jokers skinny rom and even sockmonkey....over 10+ oc/uv gpu enhanced kernels up to 1.5giggityhurtz ....
Only other thing I can see being modded is our pos pentile screen.....
Every optimized or enhanced android setting I come across that seem possible to port to our kernels/roms I send it jokers way cause he knows best if its worth a look or not.
So any suggestions that adds to our current awsomeness..by all means say so....
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Are those not still in Alpha phase though? Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I was talking about full releases. However, I could be just not looking hard enough or am looking over the obvious, which with me, is entirely possible.
Well considering everything software wise should be considered beta(perfect software will never happen). Im pretty sure my stuff is safe. When i release a kernel, i upload from that kernel. I cant guarantee no bugs because not even stock isnt without bugs. I use alpha to scare away people that will brand all my stuff crap. Once a kernel goes stable its the same kernel just tested by more than just me.
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Are those not still in Alpha phase though? Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I was talking about full releases. However, I could be just not looking hard enough or am looking over the obvious, which with me, is entirely possible.
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Are those not still in Alpha phase though? Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I was talking about full releases. However, I could be just not looking hard enough or am looking over the obvious, which with me, is entirely possible.
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Although listed as alpha, they work very well. Give them a try.
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I'm using MIUI alpha and is pretty solid. Has its share of bugs but very promising.
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I wish I knew the answer to this as well. In fact, I asked the exact same question about a month ago and all I was told was that it's due to poor marketing by Sprint?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345073
All I ever hear from everyone is how much of a kickass phone this is, which I totally agree with. You would think that for a phone with such a solid platform to work off of, the development would be insane. Unfortunately, it's just the opposite.
i have to agree with jay
ferretman61 said:
i have to agree with jay
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Have you done any development for it? No? That's why it's slow.
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Go home troll
ferretman61 said:
i have to agree with jay
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Instead of asking why there isn't enough development, why not state specifics on what you are looking for that is missing?
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honestly no offence to you but this can be pretty insulting to our developers who are highly skilled and working all their free time into getting this going, talk to Motorola for locking the bootloader and not releasing they're kernel if u want to make things faster and easier for the developers.
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Not too many developers have this device. If this device was on Verizon, we would have development up our a**es, but Sprint is not too popular of a service provider for Android developers, other than the Samsung Galaxy Epic Touch...
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Not too many developers have this device. If this device was on Verizon, we would have development up our a**es, but Sprint is not too popular of a service provider for Android developers, other than the Samsung Galaxy Epic Touch...
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I don't think this is entirely true. I came from the Evo 4G, and development/roms were plentiful from the dev community for that phone.
While it is a bit disconcerting to see the lack of development for my new Photon, it is important to remember that developers do this on their own time. However, as others have said, this device is far and above, even with Motoblur (which is awful, btw), what most other devices have to offer. There are, obviously, some other highly spec'd Sprint phones, like the SGSII, Evo3d, and the Nexus S 4G. And with the now impending release of the new Nexus on Sprint, I would assume development for the MoPho will likely drop altogether.
All that said, I do wish I had a stable AOSP ROM to put on this phone, with a nice guide on the most up-to-date rooting method(s). I only got this phone yesterday, so it'll be a few hours of fishing through hundreds of pages of forums before I'm ready to start rooting (I'm on 2.3.4)...my concern is what to put on my phone AFTER I'm rooted. :-(
Anyways -- thanks to all the devs that have put something together for us. Joker, it seems that your stuff is at the forefront, while some people are apparently still using the CM7 build from Cybik. Maybe I'll try it all!
Just to give a little perspective regarding software, when the company I work for goes to update an existing device with new code it takes a fair amount of full time software developers and testers (at least 3 or 4 of each) and a couple of months to get something out in a fairly stable state when they are familiar with the code that are updating.
What the developers here are doing is makes updates to code they did not create or develop and lord knows if there is one thing developers hate to do is comment code. So it makes it even more difficult for anyone to first understand what the code is doing in order to make that changes let alone someone who has a separate full time job.
I know your not complaining about the slowness, only asking why so I thought I would give me 2 cents.
Yeah jokers cm9 is running great! You should try it out. The only reason not to use it is the camera doesn't work so if that is important to you just wait. I barely use the camera so doesn't bother me.
Guys... the development of our phones is coming to an end... we have less and less developers everyday and I don't think I'm good enough to develop anything decent my self.... we need to find people to develop and fast if the future of our phones is to be a bright one....
I agree with you... but I think maybe is time to other people (including us), learn some more and keep doing a nice job. Not as great as some developers I guess, but someone has to do the work. I know, its hard, but what we can do if not is change our phones
Awesome devs, don't leave us hehe.
i agree too. i am learning c++ as i want to compile a ics kernel for our ics roms.
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Yeah, I'm currently attempting to build a rom. (it boots and works almost as well as hephappy's last build) I'm trying to hack omx in. It's very difficult :/ and I haven't had much luck so far.
allenwalker1998 said:
i agree too. i am learning c++ as i want to compile a ics kernel for our ics roms.
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Learning C++ doesn't help you to build kernel.... learn C
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Learning C++ doesn't help you to build kernel.... learn C
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i am learning both
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learning programming languages is only needed to understand syntax..rest..code is all of understanding..wat it does
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gymfreak7855 said:
Yeah, I'm currently attempting to build a rom. (it boots and works almost as well as hephappy's last build) I'm trying to hack omx in. It's very difficult :/ and I haven't had much luck so far.
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you cant hack omx..we dont have api's for msm7x227..we need to find a workaround
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williamcharles said:
you cant hack omx..
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I'm feeling like one more week waiting answer from Qualcomm and I will try to do that too >_<
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i am learning both
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Actually i don't learn anything right now... i just know some C....
This is just my two cents worth:
Take a look at the Android Development section. There are many budding developers with their themed roms oh, I mean heavily tweaked and modded roms out there. I'm not sure about the rest of you but I feel that this is simply wonderful. Its a good opportunity for beginners to learn more and serve the online community here. I'm sure in 5/10 years time down the road, some of us will look back and say "Hey the Optimus One was the Android phone that got me so interested into developing and look at much I've learned" or "It was my Optimus One phone that made me love Android".
So alright, our phone isn't considered a legacy device (yet, of course hopefully never) so hang on in there I love my O1!
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Well...I think the developers are enough to build an stable version of ics.For GB,we already have Oxygen which is amazing..or neko's rom if you like some changed graphics.If we'll have stable ICS...I don't think we can request something else from them.Even like this,I'm happy with Oxygen.
The thing is that o1 gets older and older,and resources are very limited.600 mhz...just saying.
The developers will upgrade to better phones.
This phone...I think it was it the top when it comes to developrs support.It was a cheap phone with good performances at that time.Now games,versions of android,apps,all request more resources and in time this phone won't be able to offer enough.
Probably this phone was a challenge for most of developers.We wouldn't have so many roms if this would have...a 1.4 ghz / dual core processor and this stuff.
Don't worry my friends,in time we'll upgrade our phones too.And for most of us,this phone was "first love" ...and you know what they say,you will never forget your "first love"
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This is just my two cents worth:
Take a look at the Android Development section. There are many budding developers with their themed roms oh, I mean heavily tweaked and modded roms out there. I'm not sure about the rest of you but I feel that this is simply wonderful. Its a good opportunity for beginners to learn more and serve the online community here. I'm sure in 5/10 years time down the road, some of us will look back and say "Hey the Optimus One was the Android phone that got me so interested into developing and look at much I've learned" or "It was my Optimus One phone that made me love Android".
So alright, our phone isn't considered a legacy device (yet, of course hopefully never) so hang on in there I love my O1!
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> very well said.. great words from you.. ur absolutely right.
o1
you realize that this phone is 2 years old and most developers have switched to nexus devices.
you realize this will never have an official update ever again
you realize this has an armv6 processor
you realize that we have reached a "glass ceiling" for now maybe quallcomm will be nice or someone comes up with a workaround or we can get a leak
you realize that this phone has no official flash support
you realize that we have an HVGA display
thats why so many devs are leaving and or moving to another phone IE. Nexus
so many devs went to the nexus, franco, milk, bok, dax\
im new here
lupohirp_jr said:
you realize that this phone is 2 years old and most developers have switched to nexus devices.
you realize this will never have an official update ever again
you realize this has an armv6 processor
you realize that we have reached a "glass ceiling" for now maybe quallcomm will be nice or someone comes up with a workaround or we can get a leak
you realize that this phone has no official flash support
you realize that we have an HVGA display
thats why so many devs are leaving and or moving to another phone IE. Nexus
so many devs went to the nexus, franco, milk, bok, dax\
im new here
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DafuQ?
Whats with your Username??
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RockR172 said:
DafuQ?
Whats with your Username??
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haha... lupo junior lol
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This is just my two cents worth:
Bla, bla, bla...
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That isn't development^^
I'd really like to change my Optimus One for a better phone but I really can't spend lot of money for a phone. Android 4 is beautiful but set a LOT of devices apart. Now Android looks like something for the few. I still have to understand what should I do with a dual/quad core phone: my Optimus One is old, armv6, 600mhz but I can still use it with Lightbox, Twitter, FB, G+, gstrings, Maps, Endomondo and a lot of apps with no much lags (and I didn't overlock). I hope Tizen or especially Boot 2 Gecko will be good enough to revive not-so-incredibly-old phones like ours. Android is fantastic but it's going too fast.
this phone is 2 years old
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Lolz, 2 years is such a lotta time My previous phone was 6 years old till I changed it. I bought my O1 last autumn. 6 months is really looong, so I think I gotta buy newer one
I switched to HTC one v but unfortunately there's nothing in development section like O1 has I luv my O1 I'll never forget my first Android phone which was our beloved O1.....
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I notice the Galaxy III has some cool A** Roms and Themes why are we so far behind?
How long would it take... 1, 2 and...
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I notice the Galaxy III has some cool A** Roms and Themes why are we so far behind?
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This is a sprint phone it's very limited in users ... The galaxy you speak of is an international phone so it has more users throughs the world
And this is not development you posted in the wrong section
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Galaxy s iii came out in April, give it some time. We will have AOSP, CM9, and MiUi at least starting in the next few months I would guess. Remember I preordered and only got my phone 11 days ago.
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Galaxy s iii came out in April, give it some time. We will have AOSP, CM9, and MiUi at least starting in the next few months I would guess. Remember I preordered and only got my phone 11 days ago.
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Plus one on that. I'm gonna be adding the device tree to our source here soon for some classicnerd aosp flavors too. I'm sure this phone will explode here soon. It's been what, a couple weeks at most? I would say this developement has been faster than most and on par to become a legendary device.
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Thanks
thanks guys for the quick responds....
There are so many good phones now days you are never going to get the amount of development for one phone as you did back in the Classic EVO days. It's just the way it is. Developers are spread too thin and a lot of them still support devices that are 2+ years old.
The terrible state of Sprint's network doesn't help either. Once LTE is available nationwide and people start seeing Sprint as an option for fast mobile data maybe more people will sign with them. I wouldn't expect that to start happening until 2014 or so. The people with Sprint now are most probably long time customers who are with them for the price rather than the performance.
I am more than happy with what we do have. The phone has been out a couple weeks and we have all sorts of mods, a bunch of really good Sense roms, even without a kernel source being released yet, and two really well known AOSP roms under way. I would love a few full blown themes and hope they come in time. I miss my blue Sense themes that I had while running mikshifted g back on my evo shift.
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There are so many good phones now days you are never going to get the amount of development for one phone as you did back in the Classic EVO days. It's just the way it is. Developers are spread too thin and a lot of them still support devices that are 2+ years old.
The terrible state of Sprint's network doesn't help either. Once LTE is available nationwide and people start seeing Sprint as an option for fast mobile data maybe more people will sign with them. I wouldn't expect that to start happening until 2014 or so. The people with Sprint now are most probably long time customers who are with them for the price rather than the performance.
I am more than happy with what we do have. The phone has been out a couple weeks and we have all sorts of mods, a bunch of really good Sense roms, even without a kernel source being released yet, and two really well known AOSP roms under way. I would love a few full blown themes and hope they come in time. I miss my blue Sense themes that I had while running mikshifted g back on my evo shift.
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well said, I agree with you 100%.. I hope we can get those blue sense themes rolling..
Was going to note that source code has not even been released for the EVO LTE. What do u expect? Can't work on a lot without the source...
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401!!!!!!
the irc of Evo LTE Developers has some of the biggest names ive seen in a long time across multiple devices. They are just running private tests with a group of people before posting their roms. besides with out source we can only do so much.
3 new ROMs landed today including MIUI...just sayin'
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Yea but a lot of them have a non-working camera
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Yea but a lot of them have a non-working camera
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That's why it is called development. If it was done there would be nothing left to develop
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Honestly I can see the LTE being the next "EVO 3D"...the specs on this beast are impressive and it is more than capable of handling damn near anything thrown at it. LTE will be great to have, I don't miss my 4G that much as I use WiFi more often than not. But as the Dev's are finding out, even the hboot is completely different and we are not locked out of 95% of the boot sectors as with the 3D....not to sound too cheesy, but HTC built it...they will come lol
Personally I'm not looking for a thousand roms. I actually like a smaller development community with quality roms. I had that over at the OG Epic and Evo3d community and was more then happy. Each community happily lead me to a new device, which is usually yearly. What i look for in development is improvement over stock, fixing nagging bugs, useful tweaks and speed enhancements. If i get that i find no point in flashing and flashing. After awhile you got to realize development has peaked and there's not much to improve upon and one simply just move on.
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i too dont like alot of roms, i hate sifting through pages and pages of roms
that either look like crap, have been scrapped or not supported, or have such minute changes from the rom above it.
i prefer a small collection of super stable roms
i also prefer the team roms because alot more highly skilled devs are involved in it together.
I'm just a beginner but I think I've made some cool mods for this phone
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I'm just a beginner but I think I've made some cool mods for this phone
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Agreed good Sir.
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How come we only have a few ROM's and they galaxy 3 has tons? When can we at least get an official cyanogen?
Uhhh you cant really compare s3 and OG in terms of developments and number of roms.
Obviously s3 has a lot more users than OG.
You shouldnt expect similar amount of developments to be on all devices although we have got some real talented devs.
Have you been seeing ATT OG community for a while?
If you did you must know that for past month there were some bombardment of new developments.
You should be able to see official cm too soon (i hope so too). But cm from nexus 4 ports are very stable and nice too try using then first!
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Why don't you build it?
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OP have you looked and attempted to install/run the current ROMs available....and since jelly bean was just introduce to this device not more that 2 months ago....
I would say this community is off to a great start, BTW this thread is really not needed.
Thank You.