Ok, just wanted to put this up here.
I come from the legendary HTC HD2 so I know nothing is impossible from win6.5 to android is huge
Do you guys think a port of win8 will be possible? i mean they said 1gb of RAM is enough to run win8... and 1.5GHz should not be a problem if Atom is 1.6GHz, since we can overclock it and stuff..
so, is it possible, or whats talking against it?
Technically, its "possible". But nobody is going to take the time to port Windows8 to the Flyer. Windows is closed source, making porting it over extremely difficult. Plus, there would be no drivers to make the hardware work with the OS. I'm no developer, but the enormous amount of work to overcome these obstacles make them infeasible, compared to simply buying a Windows 8 device (when they become available).
On the other hand, there are developers who will try just for the fun of it. Will it be usuable to the general public? I doubt it....
Somebody tell Microsoft!
Hey this thing is already running a version of Linux, you see any ports to a full blown linux tablet?
Nice idea thou, the new Windows 8 looks to be finger friendly
yeah i know it will be a pain in the arse, but hey - some people like to do this just for the fun and recognition - you know, be the one who finally managed to hack win8 and port it to a android device.
its been done before, and i think many will be donating to help.
its a fun thing.. imagine dual boot
You could install Ubuntu on the Flyer, but for what , I don't know.
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
There are a few reasons why it will never work, most of them people already mentioned
1. You can't compare a 1.6Ghz Intel x86 processor to a 1.6Ghz ARM one, the Flyer is well below the minimum specs.
2. Microsoft will not publicly release their ARM builds, they will only sell them directly to OEMs unlike the desktop version of Windows 8.
3. It's closed source.
4. If someone does miraculously manage to get it running (hey this is xda), functionality will be extremely limited as there is no legacy app support for ARM.
You could install Ubuntu like DigitalMD said and put Win8 on a VM in there.... doubt it would boot though and you would have to find chuck norris and make him round-house kick the lag.
From ALL of the Tablets on the Market, I have checked out ALL of them. The one that I'm the happiest with is the Sprint HTC EVO View Tablet. It's the LOUDEST of ANY & ALL Tablets on the market. Anywhere from a little bit to a lot louder. I know that it's just a 7" screen, but it has the best sound. I would like to get Windows 8 on the HTC EVO View Tablet. i hope that ANYONE can come up with a solution to this. If anyone can come up with a solution to this, then I would put it on the HTC EVO View Tablet ASAP!
It's not possible. Doesn't meet min specs.
We installed it at work on an HP Slate that was running Win7, and it constantly freaked out about the resolution not being high enough. If a device that was meant to run Windows OS is unable to run Win8, it's not going to happen on an Android device. At least not officially.
And considering we can't get an ICS build running, it's a pretty good bet we'll never get Win8 to run.
kudosmog said:
It's not possible. Doesn't meet min specs.
We installed it at work on an HP Slate that was running Win7, and it constantly freaked out about the resolution not being high enough. If a device that was meant to run Windows OS is unable to run Win8, it's not going to happen on an Android device. At least not officially.
And considering we can't get an ICS build running, it's a pretty good bet we'll never get Win8 to run.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a slate 500. Did you set it to the higher resolution? Win 8 should work, although the screen is a bit off at the higher resolution.
A bit off topic, I know...
Well that was just one aspect of it.
We weren't able to set the resolution any higher then the max 1024x600. It just wouldn't allow anything higher. It *runs* but anytime you click/swipe etc it vomits error messages.
Still, so many challenges keeping it from happening on the view/flyer. It's a pipe dream.
Yeah this ain't gonna happen. Already got a very good , usable OS.
I"d spend my time improving that and creating better apps
Is it possible looking at hardware? Yes, I think so. The architecture should be fine, as there is an ARM version.
However, what do we need?
-Drivers for Windows 8, and if we want to make this work out correctly, we do need the ability to write drivers ourselves, which is a lot of work.
-A custom bootloader. I hope that, after we get ICS to boot on the Flyer correctly, we can work on a bootloader, as it would be really nice for a real tweakers-tablet, so there might be a possibility for this (not giving an ETA, as I don't know how much work it is and it will take a lot of time, don't get excited on this at all...)
And besides, when we can work on a native Linux-distribution, I don't think it's worth it to work on W8, especially because every way we get it running is not legal. Oh, and let's not forget the work it takes to get it to boot, as it would take quite some magic to get a Windows kernel booting.
redpoint73 said:
Technically, its "possible". But nobody is going to take the time to port Windows8 to the Flyer. Windows is closed source, making porting it over extremely difficult. Plus, there would be no drivers to make the hardware work with the OS. I'm no developer, but the enormous amount of work to overcome these obstacles make them infeasible, compared to simply buying a Windows 8 device (when they become available).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and what do you think about windows phone 7 on the HD2? i believe it was extremely hard, but people made it
Big_O said:
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
f**k you... don't write total bull****s here... it's not a noob forum. i didn't see any other complaints except people's noobiness.. they'll get used to the new controls. they're just awesome.
Naysayers always say nay. I'm amazed at the accomplishments @ XDA thus far and have learned never say never. I for one would love to see this happen.
Some people do things because their told it can't be done.
im using the rtm windows 8 right now i gotta say its pretty good ...early builds had issues but they did good quicker smother would be awesome if they could get windows 8 on my VIEW cuz its def built for mobile ...splashtop for now
Big_O said:
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Technically possilbe, but it's extreemely unlikely to happen. Especially since windows is in no way open source, and the flyer doesn't have that many modders.
Related
Hope I'm not being sacrilegeous, but is it possible? I've always admired the platform, but the lack of apps always held me back from trying it.
Any possibility we could get WebOS running on the G tab?
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk
Because if number of available apps is the problem, WebOS is clearly the answer.
Thanks for the laugh.
spamhead said:
Because if number of available apps is the problem, WebOS is clearly the answer.
Thanks for the laugh.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the lack of apps is whats kept him from trying Web OS (ie: buying a web os device) however hes interested in trying out the platform if he could get it running on his gtab.
but you clearly didn't pick that up and made an ass of yourself.
You're right (on both counts).
Not the first or last time I make an ass of myself on the internet.
I doubt it, but it would be awesome. WebOS is a stunningly beautiful OS. I love the way it looks, feels, and works. To me, it's up there with android in the multitasking department and surpasses it in design (though honeycomb is getting close). I had a pre for about 6 months and sometimes miss some of the things it did. That being said, as of june 2010, it was buggy as all get out and the app store was severly lacking.
I second the request for someone to look into this though, as it would be a lot of fun to play with.
spamhead said:
You're right (on both counts).
Not the first or last time I make an ass of myself on the internet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey, at least you owned up to it
I bought a Palm Pre the day it was released, I thought WebOS was pretty damn awesome, but they released it on hardware of the worst quality (my Pre oreo'd like a mofo, and the touchscreen stopped working 9 months in). That and the fact that they didn't license it out like Android pretty much doomed it from the start.
Nice to see HP giving it a go, and #2 tablet world is wide open at the moment, but I wouldn't choose it over Android. Would be fun to play with though.
CPU is probably the big obstacle - anyone know what WebOS is compiled for? I actually know very little about the device.
If, for example, the hardware was ARM based then it's in the realm of possibility.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webos. hmmm, ARM-based and Linux based. Interesting.....
roebeet said:
CPU is probably the big obstacle - anyone know what WebOS is compiled for? I actually know very little about the device.
If, for example, the hardware was ARM based then it's in the realm of possibility.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
original pre was an omap processor, not sure if that is arm or not. I think texas instruments was the manufacturer
Btw I thought of this after reading about all the work done on the HTC HD2 and and HD7 running both Windows x.x and Android concurrently. Android Central recently had an article about WebOS 3.0 where they said it is starting to look mighty impressive.
I've always enjoyed Android and how customizable it is, but have enjoyed the UI from WebOS (one of my cousin owned a Pre).
Btw I enjoy using all platforms, I've been on Windows, OS X, and Ubunut for desktops and laptops, and for Smartphones I've used WM 6 (and prior), Blackberry, iOS, and Android. I tend to go with the one that suits my needs/wants best. Now that tablets are starting to be on the rise, I haven't set in stone which one I prefer yet. I picked up a Gtab from Woot knowing that there is a strong community of modders in addition to some solid internal hardware and specs.
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk
I know nothing about the programming side, but if we could get the ball rolling on this, I'm ready and willing to use my time and hardware for testing.
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk
Web os is now open source.
Anyone interested
Ubunut!
jraskal said:
..., and Ubunut ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL! Is this the name for an Ubuntu fanatic?
I'm not gonna lie, Once an ARM release for Windows 8 gets released, I will put it on the Prime ASAP. Why?
I have been following the Build of Windows 8 for some time. I must admit, I am whole-heartily impressed at the awesome features that are coming. The developer tools that Microsoft released will also make it easy for developers to port their apps to x86 and ARM. The marketplace will open up a store that half a billion people could potentially look at.
Windows is the behemoth of the computing age and they are charging directly into mobile computing. I choose Windows over Android because I want more than what Android has to offer.
I want good browsers, application support, enterprise support, and a desktop OS with Metro integration.
If you want to see why I am excited for Windows 8, don't listen to me!
Watch the first Keynote and you will be wowed at what's coming:
http://channel9.msdn.com/events/BUILD/BUILD2011/KEY-0001
Also, here is the Build Blog, where Microsoft is actually taking advice on creating Windows 8.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/
I hope everyone is as excited as I am for what's coming. Remember this: Even if you hate Windows-everything, you should be excited for it. Windows 8 will force Android and iOS to really push harder in creating a full-fledged mobile OS.
The Prime is the perfect tablet for both Android, and Windows 8.
xTRICKYxx said:
I'm not gonna lie, Once an ARM release for Windows 8 gets released, I will put it on the Prime ASAP. Why?
I have been following the Build of Windows 8 for some time. I must admit, I am whole-heartily impressed at the awesome features that are coming. The developer tools that Microsoft released will also make it easy for developers to port their apps to x86 and ARM. The marketplace will open up a store that half a billion people could potentially look at.
Windows is the behemoth of the computing age and they are charging directly into mobile computing. I choose Windows over Android because I want more than what Android has to offer.
I want good browsers, application support, enterprise support, and a desktop OS with Metro integration.
If you want to see why I am excited for Windows 8, don't listen to me!
Watch the first Keynote and you will be wowed at what's coming:
http://channel9.msdn.com/events/BUILD/BUILD2011/KEY-0001
Also, here is the Build Blog, where Microsoft is actually taking advice on creating Windows 8.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/
I hope everyone is as excited as I am for what's coming. Remember this: Even if you hate Windows-everything, you should be excited for it. Windows 8 will force Android and iOS to really push harder in creating a full-fledged mobile OS.
The Prime is the perfect tablet for both Android, and Windows 8.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how much is it going to cost to buy windows 8 for the transformer? if its anything like the current windows, you will have to pay for upgrade and all that.
jblah said:
how much is it going to cost to buy windows 8 for the transformer? if its anything like the current windows, you will have to pay for upgrade and all that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a good question. Just like every other Windows release out there, if you are too poor; Piracy is just too easy. But I don't think I will resort to that. Something I have noticed is the lack of mentioning toward different versions of Windows 8. If feels as if there will be the consumer, server edition, and ARM edition(?).
I don't know.
Why don't you just wait and get a Windows tablet, if you want a Windows tablet?
Sent from my Amiga 500 using Workbench!
StuMcBill said:
Why don't you just wait and get a Windows tablet, if you want a Windows tablet?
Sent from my Amiga 500 using Workbench!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because why wait? Windows 8 works great on the Tegra 3 chip! 1GB of RAM is plenty as Windows 8 uses less memory than Windows 7. Also, I love the Transformer. I'm sure Asus will release the Prime for Windows variant, but I love Android as well.
In my opinion Ms has missed the train and that they did it twice,the first one being when they left the WM unsupported and went to WP7 there by giving up the lead to the emreging OSs with a very big margin,and now another grave mistake will be if x86 apps will not run on the ARM version,which will need a couple of years to develop new ones,well I can imagine the IOS and android with there aliready big advantage where will they be by than!!.
hagba said:
In my opinion Ms has missed the train and that they did it twice,the first one being when they left the WM unsupported and went to WP7 there by giving up the lead to the emreging OSs with a very big margin,and now another grave mistake will be if x86 apps will not run on the ARM version,which will need a couple of years to develop new ones,well I can imagine the IOS and android with there aliready big advantage where will they be by than!!.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Microsoft is making a painful transition. They are working hard at porting their full Windows OS onto ARM. I believe they see that ARM architecture will be the future of low-power, high performance computing. They will certainly support Windows 8, but what they will struggle with is convincing all x86 developers supporting the Windows platform to port their applications over to ARM as well. It is not Microsoft's fault that ARM will not run x86 applications; it is a necessity and Microsoft cannot afford to wait much longer.
ive actually been thinking about this. i love android and wouldn't replace it on the prime for the world but would it be possible without breaking some laws? i remember when the hd2 got wp7 there was a few threads in the evo forum saying that since we have the same hardware can we get it to. and apparently it violated "warez" or something so we couldn't. so... if this does come to the prime then it would be sweet but idk if it ever will... (p.s. i could be wrong so if anyone has anything to correct me on then please feel free)
I'm definitely interested in dual booting later.. hopefully win installation will be viable in some way.
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
PhxkinMassacre said:
ive actually been thinking about this. i love android and wouldn't replace it on the prime for the world but would it be possible without breaking some laws? i remember when the hd2 got wp7 there was a few threads in the evo forum saying that since we have the same hardware can we get it to. and apparently it violated "warez" or something so we couldn't. so... if this does come to the prime then it would be sweet but idk if it ever will... (p.s. i could be wrong so if anyone has anything to correct me on then please feel free)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's the same case. WP7 is proprietary to Microsoft, which doesn't distribute it freely like Google does with Android. I also don't think consumers can buy a license for WP7 to put on any device, so if the phone doesn't come with it natively, it would be illegal to put it on a non-WP7 phone.
Windows 8, on the other hand, is purchasable buy consumers, so one could legally buy it and put it on whatever device they chose to.
Smyc151 said:
I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's the same case. WP7 is proprietary to Microsoft, which doesn't distribute it freely like Google does with Android. I also don't think consumers can buy a license for WP7 to put on any device, so if the phone doesn't come with it natively, it would be illegal to put it on a non-WP7 phone.
Windows 8, on the other hand, is purchasable buy consumers, so one could legally buy it and put it on whatever device they chose to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While i fail to see why you would WANT Windows 8, keep in mind that Microsoft may very well not release a purchasable version of Windows 8 ARM to consumers.
mtmerrick said:
While i fail to see why you would WANT Windows 8, keep in mind that Microsoft may very well not release a purchasable version of Windows 8 ARM to consumers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, that's a very good point. But still, it was a legitimate answer to the question posed. But you're right that we shouldn't assume that Windows 8 will be purchasable.
Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Tempie007 said:
Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Perhaps. Tegra 3 'Kal-El' is the flagship processor for Windows 8 ARM. I think installing Windows on the Prime will be quite easy as its hardware matches what Microsoft has been demonstrating. I think the hardest thing would be getting the Keyboard Dock functioning.
Tempie007 said:
Good luck on installing win8 on the transformer. My guess is that it wont be possible without heavy developer effort.
Just wait for the official win8 transformer and install android on it (dual boot):way easier i think
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree. Unbelievably "heavy developer effort"... add the fact that WinRT on ARM does NOT include the Win8 Desktop stack.
Consider the Microsoft developer effort to:
(1) Port Office and any(all) other applications to WinRT so it can be used on ARM - nothing Win7 nor WP7 will directly port to WinRT except maybe hello world and trivial apps. Without Office on the ARM tablet who cares.
(2) Port WinRT to the Windows Phone replacing WP7.
(3) Perform a COMPLETE UX rewrite of any required applications to Metro touch to run under WinRT on ARM.
(4) Build, support, maintain developer tools for all the above.
(5) A million other things.
Unless Microsoft has infinite resources, I do NOT think they will be competitive with Android nor Apple for years (if ever) in the mobile space. This comment usually causes Microsoft zealots much discomfort and denial.
Without Office-Touch Version on WinRT the WinRT platform will FAIL worse than WP7 is failing now. Office on Windows 7 touch is an abortion, e.g. Samsung XE700t1a with Windows 7. It is a catch-22 for Microsoft to make WinRT Office run on ARM platform because that may not generate the *required* Windows 8 Ultimate Home Premium Standard Business Suite Server license revenues.
So, today, Microsoft has not seriously accomplished anything competitive in the mobile spaces. In the future, there is infinite work to accomplish any logical road map but no road map has been announced. The Windows 8 Desktop and WinRT bits from BUILD (and after) are pre-Alpha stage.
In the meantime, Android merged tablet & phone OS to version 4.0, and Apple is also busy with hundreds of million mobile phone and tablet customers.
Waiting for Microsoft to finish something is a great suggestion, but version 1.0 is a huge risk too. Maybe waiting until version 3 of the Microsoft phone and tablet? LOL
xTRICKYxx said:
Perhaps. Tegra 3 'Kal-El' is the flagship processor for Windows 8 ARM. I think installing Windows on the Prime will be quite easy as its hardware matches what Microsoft has been demonstrating. I think the hardest thing would be getting the Keyboard Dock functioning.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, everything regarding drivers must be written, kernel, sound, video, wifi, 3G if data version...one tegra 3 machine does not mean another loads. They must be done for each machine. Oh, I forgot touchscreen also. You just can't load it..it must be developed for it.
life64x said:
Nope, everything regarding drivers must be written, kernel, sound, video, wifi, 3G if data version...one tegra 3 machine does not mean another loads. They must be done for each machine. Oh, I forgot touchscreen also. You just can't load it..it must be developed for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes. Windows 8 would most likely be an OEM-only OS. HOWEVER, The Eee Pad Transformer series will most likely have Windows 8 variants making this hell of a lot easier.
Not gonna like, the metro UI and thus WP7 can go die in a fire, and I mean a REALLY DEADLY one! The blocky TILE interface, with no respect for the ability to get lost in menu's/programs... really sad... I stopped helping friends/family with their WP7 devices after the second week they got them... thankfully most are on Android / Blackberry now... my hate is for the Metro UI, not necessarily the underlying CORE for Win8 and WP7 (the only hate that surpasses that which I have for the MetroUI is the iPhone OS/Software, because the iPhone 4/4S hardware is pretty premo)
However, to give you a counter balance for my above rant, I am currently running the Windows 8 Developer Preview on my desktop, as my ABSOLUTE HATE for Metro UI, it is indeed disabled, and no, that's NOT all there is to see in the Win8DP!
Besides MetroPOS, I love the rest of what they have done with Win8, AND to that effect I WILL be looking forward to DUAL booting (if possible), BUT only if some of the main programs I use see an ARM port since there will be no x86 emulation or back porting! Else the only thing that would even mildly interest me in Dual Booting is the bragging rights to say I have a desktop/laptop OS on a tablet...
So, to sum it up!:
Love Win8
Love DualBooting
Love Android
Love Transformer Prime
Love thought of Win8/Programs running on tablet device
HATE METROPOS (er i mean UI...)
i was thinking more on the line of having both android and windows 8 on the transformer with a dual boot option and when u boot up u pick ur poison
Further to my previous comment, I have been thinking about this, and I think if the opportunity to Dual-Boot came along, I would go for it.
Purely for a full Microsoft Office suite on the Tablet. Then I could leave my laptop at home and take my tablet only!
When will Microsoft & HTC Get together to put WINDOWS 8 on this Tablet? I'm not a fan of Android, but I have to really give HTC their Props for this Tablet.
From ALL of the other Tablets on the market, this is by FAR the BEST BUILT TABLET made. It has the BEST Quality of ALL the others that I have personally checked out. Not one Tablet can even come close to the sound quality of the HTC EVO VIEW Tablet.
I would like to know WHEN WINDOWS 8 will make it's way onto the HTC EVO VIEW TABLET!
If anyone has put even Windows 7 on this Tablet, I would also like to know that. Please pass on any info that there is on both of the OS's that I have asked about. Thank You All for Any & All of your Help.
not sure if serious or....
I'm 100% serious at what I posted.
I want the HTC EVO VIEW TABLET with WINDOWS 8 Installed on it. I don't want to have it on it any other way like with OnLive.
No. They will not. The HTC isn't even close to meeting the minimum requirements for a Windows 8 tablet, starting with an incompatible CPU.
If there's a will there's a way. Remember we have android running on iPhones and windows mobile phones.
gd761 said:
I'm 100% serious at what I posted.
I want the HTC EVO VIEW TABLET with WINDOWS 8 Installed on it. I don't want to have it on it any other way like with OnLive.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not gonna happen(at least not officially).
EVO View hit end of life. Windows 8 isn't even out yet. Microsoft isn't going to waste time developing for a dead tablet.
Plus, it doesn't meet the min specs. For example display resolution does not meet 1366 x 768
The devs might be able to do it one day but we don't even have a working ICS port for the view. Getting windows 8 to run would be really interesting for them, I'm sure.
What about windows 7 on the HTC EVO VIEW?
gd761 said:
What about windows 7 on the HTC EVO VIEW?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onlive.desktop
there you go
Spartan1987; I said before, that I want Windows INSTALLED on the HTC EVO VIEW Tablet.
I didn't say that I want to access Windows through OnLive.
Please read everything. Thanks.
Forgetting about the minimum hardware requirements, windows 7 doesn't run on the arm arch, so that would be a resounding "no".
Besides, we can't even get cm7/9 on the view and cm runs on just about anything.
Thanks for playing.
Yeah, let's worry about getting the best version of Android on this thing before Windows.
If you wanted a Windows tablet so bad and you hate Android, perhaps you should have been smart and waited for a Windows tablet to come out.
Nokia to release a 10" Windows 8 tablet with dual-core Snapdragon S4 in Q4
I know, blasphemous. But I need more productivity.
gd761 said:
Spartan1987; I said before, that I want Windows INSTALLED on the HTC EVO VIEW Tablet.
I didn't say that I want to access Windows through OnLive.
Please read everything. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
rather than sound like an inconsiderate prick/troll on an ANDROID FORUM saying stupid statements like this to a DEVELOPER, why don't you learn to develop, and do it yourself? it's not going to happen anytime soon. go buy a windows device if you want windows so bad, christ almighty.
some people, man.
Sent from my PG41200 using XDA App
With all of the devices out on the Market, the HTC EVO VIEW Tablet is the one with the BEST QUALITY. As I said before ALL of the other Tablets / Slates whether they are Android or Windows can't come close to the SOUND QUALITY that the HTC EVO VIEW Tablet has. That's why I want WINDOWS 8 on that. I'm not here to bash Android at all. It's just the way that I feel. And read this very close and very carefully. I DON'T LIKE ANDROID. That's not bashing Android. That's just MY OPINION. Everyone is entitled to their Opinions. If you can at least read into what I'm saying here you should have Agreed with the statement that I made. The HTC EVO VIEW TABLET IS A HIGH QUALITY BUILT DEVICE. If you don't agree with that, then, that's YOUR OPINION. You are entitled to that. Also I'm not here to say that mine is better than yours. I just want to have sort of the same, but just a bit different. Just the OS. Most people here personalize things that they have to make it more to their liking. That's just what I want to do. Like with my car. My model car don't come with Fog lights at all. It's not even an option. But, I have the factory lights on my model car. Also my lights are HID. That also is not an option. That's how my car has been personalized for me. Would you trash talk me for that? If not, then why would you do that just for why I posted this topic about wanting WINDOWS 8 on the HTC EVO VIEW TABLET?
heres the answer: no.
widows 8 isn't even out. This post is ridiculous.
/thread
Sent from my PG41200 using XDA App
gd761 said:
I'm 100% serious at what I posted.
I want the HTC EVO VIEW TABLET with WINDOWS 8 Installed on it. I don't want to have it on it any other way like with OnLive.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately like everyone else stated you are kinda out of luck with that on the View. However, it does sound like you are the perfect candidate for some of the new tablets coming out that run both Android and Windows. Granted they may not be the build quality of the View but maybe HTC will build one if they get popular enough. Save your money.
I already have in my budget for Both a Brand New High End Windows 8 Phone as well for Any High End Windows 8 Tablet when they are released. Also if I am Very Happy with them, to buy 2 of each. Phone & Tablet for both My Wife & Myself. That's over $2,000 in my Budget, just for the devices alone. That's not counting for any & all accessories for each device.
then why on earth do you want the view, a year old technology, to run it when you claim to have such a budget for high end?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Sent from my HTC EVO View tablet
Cliffs notes for this thread:
I'm an arrogant rich prick who refuses to learn how software development works.
spartan1987 said:
If there's a will there's a way. Remember we have android running on iPhones and windows mobile phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
windows is closed source. the only way we got ANDROID on an iphone was because ANDROID is open source. will never happen. end of discussion.
I am wondering since HTC not interested to give us ICS, will HTC release all the source code necessary to build AOSP ICS for flyer?
I'm keeping my finger cross here. I plan to make a petition for HTC to release source code or at least source code for all the driver.
No. Don't waste your time. If anything petition for a full working honeycomb update. Thanks
j510 said:
No. Don't waste your time. If anything petition for a full working honeycomb update. Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think if HTC release the source code, at least we might forgive HTC for not release ICS for Flyer.
kkcheong said:
I think if HTC release the source code, at least we might forgive HTC for not release ICS for Flyer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Waste of time, not gonna happen. HTC doesn't own most of the drivers. Other companies like Qualcomm, Broadcomm, etc. own them. The most important thing HTC would do is write a ICS compatible kernel and they never did that for the FLyer so you are asking for vapor.
I think HTC may be out of business in a year or two. Microsoft just banned them from access to Windows 8 and phone. HTC is headed down and out.
I agree HTC is going down but what is the real impact of not being able to produce a phone with windows 8? so the couple of dozens of win mobile users wont buy htc
still, so sad...
I don't understand how they could screw up like this on the tablet market.
They do excellent HW and the Flyer could have sold much better if they have had the proper price and marketing approach. And a dual-core...
HTC has a very good SW layer (Sense), far better than most of the others on the market. When I tried the Samsung stuff, it was not even comparable.
So why aren't they trying harder?
They could have put those $300M in developers and products rather than in beats...
One smart move would be for ASUS to buy HTC: that way they'll create a real strong team, covering the whole line-up of products from phones to PCs.
Any large investment fund interested in my strategy?
mcord11758 said:
I agree HTC is going down but what is the real impact of not being able to produce a phone with windows 8? so the couple of dozens of win mobile users wont buy htc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Always nice to get a jab at Microsoft in, but unless Google and friends get their act together on Android updates and app integration with the desktop, Microsoft and Windows RT / 8 are posed to make a big impact on the market over the next 6 months. I'm sure HTC could have used a few hundred million $$ in extra sales for Windows RT phones. HTC management has been making a series of bad business decisions over the past year. They need a change. The market is not very forgiving.
Touchwizis better . Sense only has widgets thatare nice but cause the device to slowdown
Man windows 8 is retarded. What's so wrong with 7? No Aero? Really? And most people who use it say metro is clunky and unnecessary clutter. Google isn't scared of windows 8, microsoft is scared of google, and apple for that matter. How big of an impact will windows 8 be? Well how big is windows phone? Exactly.
I might have met 2 people since 2010 who actually bought a windows phone.
Overall its just too soon for a new os from microsoft. Windows 7 is nothing short of excellent and perfect. And the gap between XP and vista is like 6 years, its only been 3 years since 7 launched. Microsoft is jumping the gun IMO. Honestly I probably won't even get it. At its core its just "6.2" and still windows vista based so I don't see how its necessary for a PC.
Cor-master said:
Man windows 8 is retarded. What's so wrong with 7? No Aero? Really? And most people who use it say metro is clunky and unnecessary clutter. Google isn't scared of windows 8, microsoft is scared of google, and apple for that matter. How big of an impact will windows 8 be? Well how big is windows phone? Exactly.
I might have met 2 people since 2010 who actually bought a windows phone.
Overall its just too soon for a new os from microsoft. Windows 7 is nothing short of excellent and perfect. And the gap between XP and vista is like 6 years, its only been 3 years since 7 launched. Microsoft is jumping the gun IMO. Honestly I probably won't even get it. At its core its just "6.2" and still windows vista based so I don't see how its necessary for a PC.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't be a hater.
Try logic and actual facts, not religion.
Actually, Android, while popular is a bit retarded .
4 Years into android and 6 incarnations later, the Android crowd still cannot figure out how to update more than 10% of its devices.
Microsoft releases new updates every Tuesday.
Intel says Android not ready for multiple-core processors. I have pointed this out many times in the forum.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Intel-says-Android-not-ready-for-multiple-core-processors_id31076
HTC's poor s'ales record has been noticed by Microsoft. MS does not want HTC to build its first Windows 8 tablets.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Weak-...tablet_id31074
"Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated..."
Follow the Microsoft policy of world domination, of you cannot be #1 in a market, don't enter the market (or buy the competition).
I do honestly believe HTC is heading down a bad road. I'm not sure what happened to them. They used to be the truly innovative and hands down best smartphone maker, and made some great windows mobile devices as well as the first ever android phone, and the first google phone. And then they made the EVO 4G, and afterwards everything went to hell. Too many HTC Ecstasy HD names, and too many clones of the same thing. Even the sequel to the EVO, the EVO 3D was a disappointment. And as for the tablets, they pretty much went straight into the market without researching it first, at least thats what it seemed like, but to be fair android tablets really are just now getting to the point where they are worth buying, as many of the old ones would cost the same price with weaker hardware than an ipad, or more if you got one equivalent to. The Flyer was no exception either. And why in gods name would anyone want a blackberry rip off that runs android and has a facebook button? Too many stupid products and clones of the same thing, thats why HTC is where it is now, and why Samsung has made the past 2 google phones.
And I really don't get why they thing sense 4.0 is less intrusive, its every bit as intrusive as the sense 3.6 that is running on my phone. They made a few graphic tweaks, and removed the clutter from the notification bar, and called it less intrusive pretty much. Overall if you want a more pure google experience HTC is still the last manufacturer you buy a phone from. I mean overall yeah the only way to get a pure google experience is buying a nexus no doubt, but for example after you get past the iphone-ish look of the launcher, touchwiz isn't very intrusive at all. HTC really seems to make you want to forget your using android and your using sense os instead.
That being said I don't hate sense, its actually grown on me quite a bit, but one thing I do notice on my Vivid, is if you dare to use a 3rd party application instead of a sense one, expect nothing but problems. You change the launcher, you'll constantly get the "launch by default" popup every time you hit the home button. You change the keyboard you get lag. You wanna use GOSMS instead of the text messenger built in, its slow to load, and seems bugger than you remember it on your Samsung phone.
DigitalMD said:
Don't be a hater.
Try logic and actual facts, not religion.
Actually, Android, while popular is a bit retarded .
4 Years into android and 6 incarnations later, the Android crowd still cannot figure out how to update more than 10% of its devices.
Microsoft releases new updates every Tuesday.
Intel says Android not ready for multiple-core processors. I have pointed this out many times in the forum.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Intel-says-Android-not-ready-for-multiple-core-processors_id31076
HTC's poor s'ales record has been noticed by Microsoft. MS does not want HTC to build its first Windows 8 tablets.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Weak-...tablet_id31074
"Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated..."
Follow the Microsoft policy of world domination, of you cannot be #1 in a market, don't enter the market (or buy the competition).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Microsoft releases fixes for Windows once per month, on Tuesdays.
As to HTC releasing the files for ICS, that question assumes that HTC ever had ICS in development for the Flyer or View. I don't think they did.
You guys think there is any possibility of a performance and stability update for honeycomb?
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
Cor-master said:
You guys think there is any possibility of a performance and stability update for honeycomb?
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
THIS is what i really want. Not another half azd firmware upgrade
If dual core doesn't make a difference, then why does my buddy's galaxy tab plus with a slower dual core exynos SoC and honeycomb smoke the flyer on just about everything with honeycomb? If dual core doesn't matter, then it's all on a lazy half assed effort from HTC. There is some truth to it as the jetstream is also laggy.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
Cor-master said:
If dual core doesn't make a difference, then why does my buddy's galaxy tab plus with a slower dual core exynos SoC and honeycomb smoke the flyer on just about everything with honeycomb? If dual core doesn't matter, then it's all on a lazy half assed effort from HTC. There is some truth to it as the jetstream is also laggy.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dual core does matter from what I've seen . I think touchwiz is less cluttered? Than sense. Sense lags like a bbbb
Windows mobile is just way too limited for me. There are moments I think it is cool but it bores me after using a device for 15 minutes
Flyer
DigitalMD said:
Waste of time, not gonna happen. HTC doesn't own most of the drivers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Own what drivers?
DigitalMD said:
I think HTC may be out of business in a year or two. Microsoft just banned them from access to Windows 8 and phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rubbish. They didn't get pre access to windows 8 (according to microsoft because they don't have much experience in tablets), but once Windows 8 is out HTC could make as many as they want (but lets face it who would want a windows 8 tablet anyway)
---------- Post added at 12:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:28 AM ----------
DigitalMD said:
Don't be a hater.
Try logic and actual facts, not religion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Remember that when you make up stuff.
DigitalMD said:
Actually, Android, while popular is a bit retarded .
4 Years into android and 6 incarnations later, the Android crowd still cannot figure out how to update more than 10% of its devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They could if they wanted to, but:
1. New software doesn't always run on old outdated hardware. Its been that way for decades.
2. 99% of users don't give a crap about what version of Android they are running. Many normal people don't know what version of OS there is on the phone, or even WHAT OS it is.
You want new stuff, buy new stuff - that's how capitalism works.
DigitalMD said:
Intel says Android not ready for multiple-core processors.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because they are not making multiple core processors and are desperately trying to sell their single core stuff.
DigitalMD said:
I HTC's poor s'ales record has been noticed by Microsoft. MS does not want HTC to build its first Windows 8 tablets.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Weak-...tablet_id31074
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly, their first, they haven't been banned from doing it if they want.
Perhaps they'll just stop with the tablets and focus on the phones.
Everybody is raving about their new HTC ONE line.
Kermode said:
Own what drivers?
Rubbish. They didn't get pre access to windows 8 (according to microsoft because they don't have much experience in tablets), but once Windows 8 is out HTC could make as many as they want (but lets face it who would want a windows 8 tablet anyway)
---------- Post added at 12:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:28 AM ----------
Remember that when you make up stuff.
They could if they wanted to, but:
1. New software doesn't always run on old outdated hardware. Its been that way for decades.
2. 99% of users don't give a crap about what version of Android they are running. Many normal people don't know what version of OS there is on the phone, or even WHAT OS it is.
You want new stuff, buy new stuff - that's how capitalism works.
Because they are not making multiple core processors and are desperately trying to sell their single core stuff.
Exactly, their first, they haven't been banned from doing it if they want.
Perhaps they'll just stop with the tablets and focus on the phones.
Everybody is raving about their new HTC ONE line.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep. Intel is being lame and spewing BS.
Dual core makes a difference. You want proof install watchdog on a device with a dual core and without a dual core. The single core model will get alerts of apps that are misbehaving and using too much CPU, the dual core never well, as no app can seem to use that much CPU.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
Hey guys, found out today that there will be Linux for Phones, watched the Video from the devs and i wonder if it is possible/easier for the devs around here to Port linux to our Lumia 710/800? because its working on maybe every PC ;D Maybe this is a revolution for Phones ;D
Why would you want to have linux on a phone >???
mcosmin222 said:
Why would you want to have linux on a phone >???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you have seen the Videos, its worth to try
facekill1337 said:
if you have seen the Videos, its worth to try
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, it is not. It is very buggy unless you are profficient, I had used it once, and it was awful. I cannot say that I am real noob, but it sucked when once I turned my pc on I found out every time that something doesn't work and before actually using my PC I had to look for a solution to enable stuff that stopped working. It has much less apps than windows. RT, which was ported to HD2 looks much more stable than linux.
Now we are so many with a Lumia 800 and a porting on this device would be very nice,we need developers for an unlocked bootloader
wow, this is another project for the Nokia N9
Great!!
Lanex777 said:
No, it is not. It is very buggy unless you are profficient, I had used it once, and it was awful. I cannot say that I am real noob, but it sucked when once I turned my pc on I found out every time that something doesn't work and before actually using my PC I had to look for a solution to enable stuff that stopped working. It has much less apps than windows. RT, which was ported to HD2 looks much more stable than linux.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i think you guys dont understand me http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone , heres a link for the OS i mean, not Ubuntu for Android, FOR PHONES! thats something new i think
The effort is not worth it really.
And let's not get started on how this statement
With all-native core apps and no Java overhead, Ubuntu runs well on entry-level smartphones – yet it uses the same drivers as Android.
ruins everything. I will probably want to install that on my brother's android, but not on my lumia.
linux = ubuntu = android if linux will be ported into wp then there is chance of android also
You got it so wrong..
apexthe31 said:
linux = ubuntu = android if linux will be ported into wp then there is chance of android also
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the chance for Android phones getting Linux was always much more than Windows Phone. Mostly because Android has all drivers open source. You can obtain drivers easily, hence you can port another OS easily.
but if i talk about the present, Ubuntu is already releasing open source version of Ubuntu Mobile that can easily be installed on dual-core phones. Nexus 4 was probably the first Android phone to have successfully run the Ubuntu Mobile.
and seems like WP is still lacking behind. It may even be impossible due to the "locked" feel of Windows Phone that quite resembles iOS. You cannot install Linux on an iPad due to driver issues.
Now, a reply to the guy who says Linux is ****, lacks apps, worse than windows, has less apps than windows or RT, etc.
SHUT THE HELL UP!
Do you even know what Linux is famous for, and who uses it? Ubuntu was quite a beauty ever since it obtained the Gnome3 UI, but those who used it longer than others said that this was a bad move on Ubuntu's part. Those people are called "devs" who MAKE your OS! Linux is used to make OS's. Each and every mobile OS you know is made with Linux, each and every website that got hacked was hacked with Linux, each and every company that have big websites like google and Facebook use Linux to prevent hacks and worms that slow servers. Linux is the Absolute Defence against hackers, virus's, etc. And is the best weapon for hackers. Even those who strengthen the network (White Hat Hackers) use Linux.
Don't know if it is true, but i have heard that Windows itself is made with Linux.
So stop talking bull**** about an OS you don't even know about. I used it for porting ROMs to android devices, building a few roms, etc. And it is much better than using bull**** apps like Cygwin. And apart from that, I no longer have to hesitate in making online payments because my PC is secure, that is the assurance Linux gives me.
Imagine, if you get to port roms, do hacking, and do all sorts of stuff that you do on Linux, on your phone! It is a big deal..
though i would have been happier to get Backtrack for WP, but if I get Ubuntu, id be just happy. Even though i know it won't be the exact same thing.