Hi Prime users,
I'm a litte surprised there are no threads about this here.
I'm pleased with the general audio quality - feels a little like force feedback in games
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I am totally irritated by the fact that the audio only comes from the right edge of the Prime. This is really driving my ears crazy.
What about you? Use headphones? External speakers? Got used to it?
I'd just like to know how you think on this one.
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pintness
It bothers me as well.
I didn't care really.. I agree that it would be better to have speakers like the TF101 (1 on each side).
I love the sound quality, but yeah it is uncomfortable unless you watch videos in portrait mode.
it bothers me a little bit. Mainly when I'm playing back something with sound and I can barely hear it due it's single speaker blowing out from the back.
From a design standpoint, ASUS should have at least included the left speaker on the left-bottom of the Keyboard Dock. It would have made more sense, making the tablet whole with it's keyboard dock accessory than not including no left channel audio at all. But oh well.
in fact it is a stereo speaker
redvirus said:
in fact it is a stereo speaker
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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But... why would Asus do that? I mean, if they put in stereo speakers, why not put them in correct place? This looks like a really poor design decision to me.
If only they would put more effort into function than design...
I have an Acer Iconia A500, which has stereo speaker on the back, too.
General problem with those is that treble sounds aren't reflected well and you can't hear them at all, except when you hold the tablet in that ONE special position and form a cone with your hands.
At first it really bothered me (coming from the TF101) but now I can manage...
The quality IS a whole lot better compared to TF101 though, making up for it. Still really no idea what they were thinking here though.
I agree...weird but it is excellent quality.
I am more bothered by the fact that the speaker faces away from the user instead of towards the user. This means that most of the volume the tablet can put out is wasted unless you have some kind of sound reflector behind the tablet.
I know this is common among thin touchscreen devices, but to me it never stops being a source of minor annoyance.
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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therefore it is NOT stereo but mono.
Come on, that's audio 101. If it's outputing both left and right channel from one single speaker it's NOT Stereo.
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therefore it is NOT stereo but mono.
Come on, that's audio 101. If it's outputing both left and right channel from one single speaker it's NOT Stereo.
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There are two speakers ... they just are side-by-side under that single perforation.
Lame I know, but ....
What I would have liked is to have the dock have speakers integrated (facing "up") with some separation.
That way, the tab alone could service headphones, but when docked and sitting open, it would have a better stereo experience without headphones.
definitely found it pretty weird for awhile but used to it now.
If I'm on the road, I use my headphones to block out sound and avoid annoying others.
If I'm at home, I'll plug it into my stereo speakers. If I ever use the built-in speaker, it's probably for unimportant stuff that doesn't really require good sound quality.
Never a problem
Posted this elsewhere, but I haven't seen anyone mentioning it, so perhaps it bears repeating:
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This is sort of a tangent, but if you're just holding the Prime and viewing/listening to something yourself, the way you hold the Prime can make a significant difference in how loud it is. The speaker is right at the right hand edge, if you hold it where the speaker is, and sorta cup your hand around the speaker grill, you can direct the sound to reflect off your hand and bounce it towards yourself.
It works surprisingly well and there's no need to install/root or whatever.
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Posted this elsewhere, but I haven't seen anyone mentioning it, so perhaps it bears repeating:
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^ It helps.
Official cover
The thing that annoys me the most is that if you have the official Asus origami cover and use the flat slightly angled fold, it covers the speaker. And yes I agree that having the speaker face away from the user is a bizarre idea.
I found it hard not to cover it when holding in landscape, but once adjusting it actually sounds pretty good.
I think the quality is pretty impressive. Maybe a benefit from B&O working on their laptops.
I've found if you hold it in the right hand landscape mode then with a certain position it reflects the sound so that it appears to come from the left too.
To be honest if watching a film I would probably switch to headphones.
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Hello everyone
I got my Wing couple weeks ago, but I just got to testing the headset/earbuds that came with it. Anyways, when I opened them, it looks like one string of an earbud is shorter then the other. So the middle piece with volume control on it is not centered in the middle, which is very uncomfortable. I didn't find any way to adjust it. Anyone else has the same problem, or am I on the only one with "faulty" earbuds? Please respond. I purchased online through Business Services on a current deal. If I take it to T-Mobile store, will they replace? Thanks a lot.
It really is a crappy design flaw but thats the way they come. With the weight of the volume control on one side of the headphones, that side tends to fall out of my ear. Really sorry design on they're part.
I'd say go with the bluetooth stereo headsets. The sound quality is better and you dont have to worry about the faulty wires being in the way. I invested in one the other day and come to find out other than listening to music, they also pick up calls. You can find good deals on ebay.
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It really is a crappy design flaw but thats the way they come. With the weight of the volume control on one side of the headphones, that side tends to fall out of my ear. Really sorry design on they're part.
I'd say go with the bluetooth stereo headsets. The sound quality is better and you dont have to worry about the faulty wires being in the way. I invested in one the other day and come to find out other than listening to music, they also pick up calls. You can find good deals on ebay.
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Thanks for the explanation. Can you tell me which ones you got? Just currious!
The ones I picked up are made by Motorola. Check the ones I bought on this link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MOTOROLA-HT820-BLUETOOTH-STEREO-HEADSET-HT-820_W0QQitemZ290181398683QQihZ019QQcategoryZ133229QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
There's also a few diferent types to choose from. Just do a search for Bluetooth Stereo Headsets and you'll see.
You do realize most headphones are like this now, just grab a set of ipod headphones and you'll know what I mean.
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You do realize most headphones are like this now, just grab a set of ipod headphones and you'll know what I mean.
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That sucks! Whoever came up with this idea should be forced to wear these headphones for the rest of their life!
coolmen777 said:
That sucks! Whoever came up with this idea should be forced to wear these headphones for the rest of their life!
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I agree completely. It's always felt awkward to me.
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Hello everyone
I got my Wing couple weeks ago, but I just got to testing the headset/earbuds that came with it. Anyways, when I opened them, it looks like one string of an earbud is shorter then the other. So the middle piece with volume control on it is not centered in the middle, which is very uncomfortable. I didn't find any way to adjust it. Anyone else has the same problem, or am I on the only one with "faulty" earbuds? Please respond. I purchased online through Business Services on a current deal. If I take it to T-Mobile store, will they replace? Thanks a lot.
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the longer one is supposed to go around the back of your neck... bet bluetooth is way better i like these ones because you can use any 3.5mm headphones you like.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Stereo-Blac...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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the longer one is supposed to go around the back of your neck... bet bluetooth is way better i like these ones because you can use any 3.5mm headphones you like.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Stereo-Blac...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Can you just give us the model number? Or possibly a valid item# for the once you like? Link is not working (item removed). Thanks...
The model number is BCK-08. they have a bunch of 'em listed
Ummmm, it's not a defect!
Guys you do realize that there is a perfectly logical reason for this right??? Well, since you don't...LOL... Well, it's because the short side goes into one ear, and the other wraps around the back of you neck, so that they fit comfortably... The ear buds are labled, just follow the instructions above and everything should come together for you... They're not defective guys...
Yeah, thanks! Weird!
i agree... its done purpose fully.. not a defect
I still think it's a bad design because the side with the mic always gets knocked out of my ear or the mic gets caught on something, zipper, collar, button. I'm left-handed, so at least with symmetrical buds I don't have to be reminded that it's a right-handed world.
Be careful with bluetooth, the wing isn't really designed as a music player, even though it can do it. I got some bluetooth headphones made by insignia that work flawlessly with my partner's Samsung Upstage, but have this crackle with my Wing, only when playing music, and no, the sound files are fine, it's the wing's bluetooth connection that's messed up.
Have you tweaked the bluetooth stack (the bitrate and such) for better quality?
At first couple days I did not notice this issue, yesterday I found the the sound from the right speaker is louder than the left one. Anyone has the same feeling? I'm not sure if it is a problem with the hardware or the software.
I did notice something like that yesterday. Don't know if it was what I was watching, or if it was the Tablet, but it does warrant some more investigation.
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At first couple days I did not notice this issue, yesterday I found the the sound from the right speaker is louder than the left one. Anyone has the same feeling? I'm not sure if it is a problem with the hardware or the software.
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I can say I don't have this issue. I had originally thought mine was the other way around but then realized it was my audio source, sounds balanced now.
Have you checked with earbuds to make sure that it's really a problem? I've found that not only where I hold the tablet in relation to the side speakers will effect the perceived balance, but also how I hold my hands which changes how sound reflects off them thus changing the perceived sound balance.
Earbuds worked with no problems. I'm thinking it should be the speakers' issue.
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Have you checked with earbuds to make sure that it's really a problem? I've found that not only where I hold the tablet in relation to the side speakers will effect the perceived balance, but also how I hold my hands which changes how sound reflects off them thus changing the perceived sound balance.
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My sound is off, but that was after I opened up my device. The speaker wire is close to the edge and are a bit flimsy - just moving them slightly seems to affect the volume. Could be a hardware defect that affects some devices more than others, that's my guess.
At one point, I had actually put some electrical tape over one speaker as my "DIY" volume reduction fix.
I've had my gtablet for about five days. The left speaker would sometimes work, but mostly would not. I tried different ROMs, different media players. Earphones worked perfectly. Sending it back for a replacement... I'll just end up breaking something else if I open the thing up, lol.
Ok, so i finally got my prime today and can FINALLy write something objective about the tablet. so here it goes.
Form Factor. I think the Prime excels at this. Feels, lite, sturdy and solid. If you like an ipad2, then you will like the form fo the Prime. I know some complain about the edges, etc... but quite honsestly the the ergonomica are ABOVE average.
Now, one downside is the location of the charging port on the tablet. I totally understand why its there (for the keyboard dock), but if you are lying face down in bed holding the table to watch netflix, or play a game, you cant help but wonder if you rest the tablet to much on your bed, wil you damage the power cord. Again, the placement is understandable, and I am not sure if there is a good way to fix this.
Screen: The resolution and details are again, better than expected. tehre are a few games that really make the screen shine... and hi def movies look awesome on it (with a good media player). Yet, my screen has some light bleed (only on black screens). My annal side gets really bummed about this, but an average user will definitely nto pay soo much attention to this. I did also notice, that the screen seems to get more fingerprints than my old HP touchpad. again, minor things that really have no substantial meaning.
Processing power: This is a tough call. If you compare it to otehr android tablets, tehre is no contest, Prime is the best. But I cant help but notice that the IPAD 2 feels snapier. This might be corrected with ICS, but for now, i have to say Ipad has a slight advantage.
GPS: Guys, i wnt even bother... everyone knows the facts. All i can say is that whne I bought it, i never said to myself "wow, i am getting this tablet because of the GPS". As far as I am concerned, this is what i consider as a perk that did not materialized. At least i know it KIND of works... but if you were buying a tablet cause of the GPS... then I am definitely ok a different wavelength.
WIFI: this is my big gripe. I see how the bars get affected by me jsut walking 20 steps from the router. oddly enough, I do not loose connectivity, and netflix still streams at high quality with less thann 50%... but it is still discouraging HOW sensitive that gps bars at. I cant help but wonder, if this is hwo ti behaves in a controlled environment (like my house), what can i expect in an airport or a starbucks
BT: This will be addressed later. One of my buying purposes, was to hook to a tv and sue as a gaming device witha bluetooth controller (like captain readbeard in the gamestop commercial). I cant help but wonder, if its true that Bt adn wifi dont mix to well, how is that going to transtlate for my gaming experience.
SOUND: Oh boy, WHY COULDNT ASUS but 2 damn speakers. Its really hard to play this in MONO audio, whne stereo is soo easily available!!!! I am surprised there are not so many complains about this. Sure, there are Bt speakers, headphoes, etc... but still, an average user carries the tab alone my itself most of the time... so lack of stereo is a big let down.
Conlusion: So far today, thsi si my overall impression. it is a great tablet, but tehre are some things that really make me question if ill keep it or not. In fact, i think having the small lightbleed is sort of a blessing, cause I can keep the tablet for 45 days (i am a best buy silver member), and see how i cope with it... but if somethign better coems along, or ASUS perfects their manufacturing process, i can go in 45 days, exchange it (and claim either faulty gps or light bleed), and getting it replaced.
Hope this review is somewhat objective and helps someone out (and pardon my spelling/typing skills... or lack of)
Felt like I wrote that myself I feel the same way about everything you mention. I do notice browsing is much Snappier with Opera and the keyboard is much more responsive with the Go Keyboard application with tablet extension. I have a feeling I am going to need a case of some sort with a built in speakers the Primes speakers are... dare I say it.... a absolute Joke my epic 4g touch phone blows it out of the water.
PS I can't wait for ICS!
this sounds like someone trying to be funny..lol. a decent impression though.
it is true although wifi bars are sensitive and might show lower signal strength, it still performs as of the signal strength was at Max. it is odd. this can be corrected thru software tweaks once developers make a kernel for it. they can change those kinds of values n such. Diamondback mentioned exact same issue happened with Desire HD and they put in a modified kernel and it fixed it. Everyone is hoping ICS is the savior..lol. it will come with better and updated drivers. it will also Do everything better in general since it has better coding. the clock is ticking and ICS will be here soon.
I couldn't have said it better. My Garmin handles all my GPS needs.
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Asus claims it has stereo speakers but they just come out of that one side... If it was really mono you would be able to tell the difference especially with music.
I installed the Volume + app and have come to really enjoy the speakers now.
I saw some tear-down pics and it has 2 speakers in there. Not 1. So it is indeed stereo, unless the pics are not of the prime (highly unlikely).
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If your worried about the charging port being on the bottom while in bed can't you simply turn it upside down so the charging port is on top? Are you using an app that will not rotate?
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Asus claims it has stereo speakers but they just come out of that one side... If it was really mono you would be able to tell the difference especially with music.
I installed the Volume + app and have come to really enjoy the speakers now.
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Doesn't the iPad2 have one speaker also? I don't see anybody complaining
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WIFI: this is my big gripe. I see how the bars get affected by me jsut walking 20 steps from the router. oddly enough, I do not loose connectivity, and netflix still streams at high quality with less thann 50%... but it is still discouraging HOW sensitive that gps bars at. I cant help but wonder, if this is hwo ti behaves in a controlled environment (like my house), what can i expect in an airport or a starbucks
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I take my Prime with my to school, I go to a tech school, They have wifi there and so far I get working wifi in every room I use in the building. They have a lot of repeaters though so I'm not sure how good of an example this is. Hope it eases at least some of your worrying about how it performs in the real world.
lol, you go me there... i just rotated the screen, and that problem is solved (feel so retarded cor that). Ill trythe speakerapp next. One more thing... anuone know where is the screen calibration option?
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lol, you go me there... i just rotated the screen, and that problem is solved (feel so retarded cor that). Ill trythe speakerapp next. One more thing... anuone know where is the screen calibration option?
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Idk about you calibrating that. But you can test it with Antutu tester. (That's what I used to make sure everything was working for me
Can someone give me a little direction on how to set the volume control plus app?
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Can someone give me a little direction on how to set the volume control plus app?
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go into the themes and app section of Prime. then find thread titled Volume Coontrol or something. in there is the link to marketplace to buy app. but if you read description in marketplace, the creator says you can get the same paid app for free from his website. he lists his site on there. VolumeControl+ does wonders for your speaker.
Fair review, i just checked the wifi at the wifes work, i sat outside in the parking lot and scanned the available networks side by side with my droid charge and tfp, both has the same number of networks and same signal strength, i then logged on as a guest and did a few searches, both were comparable with return times, i know a crappy test but i figured it was a fair real world scenario for me, also atm the bt seems to work well, im currently tethered with pdanet tablet and getting good speeds
Good post op, i liked the break down
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Ok, its reasuring thateven though we get finiky amounts of bars, the wifi connectinsis still acceptable for real worl use
Now, on hesubject ofthe speakers (OR SPEAKER), i could swear i onlyget audio coming out of one side of the tablet... its good audio, but only outof oeside... is it suposed ti be that way?
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Ok, its reasuring thateven though we get finiky amounts of bars, the wifi connectinsis still acceptable for real worl use
Now, on hesubject ofthe speakers (OR SPEAKER), i could swear i onlyget audio coming out of one side of the tablet... its good audio, but only outof oeside... is it suposed ti be that way?
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To get volume+ go to www.androidaudiohacks.com and click on the one that says update for latest version it Helps ALOT. make sure you enable it I set my volume to+ 7 and bass to+ 5
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Ok, its reasuring thateven though we get finiky amounts of bars, the wifi connectinsis still acceptable for real worl use
Now, on hesubject ofthe speakers (OR SPEAKER), i could swear i onlyget audio coming out of one side of the tablet... its good audio, but only outof oeside... is it suposed ti be that way?
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Yes, it is supposed to be that way. Both speakers are on the same side of the tablet. Would be nice if they were on both sides, but rest assured, there are two speakers in there and they sound damn good.
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Ok, its reasuring thateven though we get finiky amounts of bars, the wifi connectinsis still acceptable for real worl use
Now, on hesubject ofthe speakers (OR SPEAKER), i could swear i onlyget audio coming out of one side of the tablet... its good audio, but only outof oeside... is it suposed ti be that way?
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Well, like i said crappy test but i sit there and scam the wifi while waiting for her to finish up ,lol, that said yeah all the sound is coming from one side , sounds nice and clear but only coming from the audio port side , also you should check the othere thread on here where someone has taken thier tablet apart already , it looks as if there's 2 side by side speakers in here so that probably explains it ...still kind of an odd mono stereo effect when listening and watching in landscape and not very bad at all when listening in portrait, try rotating the tablet when listening to music, does the dock have speakers at least? Haha
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No the dock has no speakers
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Well, like i said crappy test but i sit there and scam the wifi while waiting for her to finish up ,lol, that said yeah all the sound is coming from one side , sounds nice and clear but only coming from the audio port side , also you should check the othere thread on here where someone has taken thier tablet apart already , it looks as if there's 2 side by side speakers in here so that probably explains it ...still kind of an odd mono stereo effect when listening and watching in landscape and not very bad at all when listening in portrait, try rotating the tablet when listening to music, does the dock have speakers at least? Haha
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No the dock has no speakers, but it would improve the Ops typing a bit, LOL (That's for earlier... semi- private joke)
I noticed the same thing on the iPhone. Both phones have their speakers on the bottom of the phone. What does this mean? When you hold the phone in landscape to play games and grip it in gaming grip, the base of your forefinger (first finger) covers the speakers and muffles the sound. I noticed this a lot playing games on my old iPhone. Speaker should be on the back ideally or on the sides.
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I noticed the same thing on the iPhone. Both phones have their speakers on the bottom of the phone. What does this mean? When you hold the phone in landscape to play games and grip it in gaming grip, the base of your forefinger (first finger) covers the speakers and muffles the sound. I noticed this a lot playing games on my old iPhone. Speaker should be on the back ideally or on the sides.
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use headphones
I haven't seen one up close yet, but I thought the power plug was on the bottom now. So, would that be in addition to the speakers on the bottom?? or did they move them elsewhere?
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Thank you for your wonderful useful tip. So I am only allowed to play a game with sound when I plug in headphones. Great practical advice from you! I like to see you hold the phone with the headphone plug digging into your finger too! I know because I made a mockup of the phone and held it in gaming grip.
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I haven't seen one up close yet, but I thought the power plug was on the bottom now. So, would that be in addition to the speakers on the bottom?? or did they move them elsewhere?
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The speakers are on the bottom of the phone on either side of the USB port.
It would be more practical on the back but in terms of design it looks uglier. That's why they put the speakers on the bottom. My Atrix has its speaker on the back and it is much better than when I had an iPhone.
Speakers never bothered me on the iphone 4s when I had it for 6 months so I don't see it as a design flaw here. I am terribly concerned about the size and weight though. I know that the older Lumia phones are thicker but it definitely does not look that way. The 920 looks HUGE and that is saying a lot since I currently have a GS3.
I hope that my concerns disappear after handling or I might have to get an HTC 8x, which I really want to avoid after owning two crappy HTC One X phones.
Personally I kind of like the thickness. Gives it substance. I have held ultra thin phones and think that I'll break them. Speaker placement to me doesn't matter as long as they sound good. I just hope it's more water tolerable than the L900. Saw the torture test on c|net and it wasn't pretty.
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The speakers are on the bottom of the phone on either side of the USB port.
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Just on one side, the other side is the mic.
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Just on one side, the other side is the mic.
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No, tboy is right. They are on both sides.
The 800 also has the speaker on the bottom. It doesn't bother me since I have a light grip on it when I play.
Anyway I think there are always some problems with the placement of the speakers. There is just no perfect solution. If you put it on the back then some people will complain that the sound will get muffled while it's placed on it's back e.g on the bed or the couch. If you wanna put it on the side then you are forced to put one on both sides but most windows phones have 3-4 buttons on one side and adding a speaker would make it look really cluttered and one may end up being muffled again. Top has the same problem as bottom and front wouldn't just work because of aesthetics.
I personally think that the speakers on the bottom are the lesser evil compared to the other options.
The speaker is placed on the bottom is actually a good idea.
With the iPhone it was placed on the bottom due to the alarm, so that the sound would not get blocked.
I always place my phone (s3) upside down just to hear my alarm better , Since I'm a deep sleeper.
The Lumia 920 has no flaws. It was designed hand manufactured by the hand of god. Just kidding. Speaker placement is actually very fine with me. It's more of a preference issue that you brought up. Cnet's torture test of the 900 shows that it will die from water. That should be an indication of what to expect. Then again, it's the only phone I know that you can hammer a nail with and still be fine. The 920 is supposed to be even tougher. So if my phone drowns... At lest I'll still be able to fix thins around the house with it. LOL. Most indestructible phone design I've seen so far was the Galaxy S3. Survive a washer cycle with ease.
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Just got my One X+ today on AT&T. Does anyone notice how bad music sounds from the speaker when the phone is face up on a desk or flat surface?
Flipping it over produces a much cleaner sound, but it is unrealistic to have the phone screen down while playing music (screen can get easily scratched). What's the deal here - design flaw?
Also, music and videos from the default player play silently even with the volume up. Anyone else have this issue? I had to use another media player to get sound output - default htc sense music app did NOT output any volume on my mp3s!
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Just got my One X+ today on AT&T. Does anyone notice how bad music sounds from the speaker when the phone is face up on a desk or flat surface?
Flipping it over produces a much cleaner sound, but it is unrealistic to have the phone screen down while playing music (screen can get easily scratched). What's the deal here - design flaw?
Also, music and videos from the default player play silently even with the volume up. Anyone else have this issue? I had to use another media player to get sound output - default htc sense music app did NOT output any volume on my mp3s!
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The answer is incredibly simply, when it is face up the speaker is blocked/covered by the surface and moreover the sound reverberates off of that surface. What do you want speakers on the front?
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Just got my One X+ today on AT&T. Does anyone notice how bad music sounds from the speaker when the phone is face up on a desk or flat surface?
Flipping it over produces a much cleaner sound, but it is unrealistic to have the phone screen down while playing music (screen can get easily scratched). What's the deal here - design flaw?
Also, music and videos from the default player play silently even with the volume up. Anyone else have this issue? I had to use another media player to get sound output - default htc sense music app did NOT output any volume on my mp3s!
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I've seen cases out there with kickstands.. that might help you
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The answer is incredibly simply, when it is face up the speaker is blocked/covered by the surface and moreover the sound reverberates off of that surface. What do you want speakers on the front?
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Don't be silly, I know that. I am saying that many phones account for this in the design, and project the sound accordingly. This thing sounds like a tin can when face down. Do they expect us to lay the phone screen-down to play music?
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Don't be silly, I know that. I am saying that many phones account for this in the design, and project the sound accordingly. This thing sounds like a tin can when face down. Do they expect us to lay the phone screen-down to play music?
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I'd venture a guess that they don't assume people are going to play music through the tiny ass speaker on the back of a phone in general. I mean it's got BEATS!
This is one area that Apple got it right...stick the speakers on the side or bottom of the phone so they aren't covered when the phone is on a table/couch/lap whatever. It just makes sense. Even if they used the earpiece cut out and stuck two speakers in there (one for calls and one for tones) that would work. Anything but flat on the back.
Moral of the story...don't listen to music on the crappy built in speaker. It's going to sound bad regardless of how the phone is held/set down.
dbdynsty25 said:
I'd venture a guess that they don't assume people are going to play music through the tiny ass speaker on the back of a phone in general. I mean it's got BEATS!
This is one area that Apple got it right...stick the speakers on the side or bottom of the phone so they aren't covered when the phone is on a table/couch/lap whatever. It just makes sense. Even if they used the earpiece cut out and stuck two speakers in there (one for calls and one for tones) that would work. Anything but flat on the back.
Moral of the story...don't listen to music on the crappy built in speaker. It's going to sound bad regardless of how the phone is held/set down.
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Would never think to use a smartphone as a boom box, lol!
dbdynsty25 said:
This is one area that Apple got it right...stick the speakers on the side or bottom of the phone so they aren't covered when the phone is on a table/couch/lap whatever. It just makes sense. Even if they used the earpiece cut out and stuck two speakers in there (one for calls and one for tones) that would work. Anything but flat on the back.
Moral of the story...don't listen to music on the crappy built in speaker. It's going to sound bad regardless of how the phone is held/set down.
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To be fair, Nokia was placing the speakers on the side of the phone, in their N-Series smartphones, long before there was an iPhone. (I know you didn't mean it this way, but I get a little tired of Apple getting credit for so many things that they did not invent.)
Anyway, it's true that a lot of phones position the speaker on the back so that the curvature of the phone creates a small megaphone effect. My Nexus One is actually louder and clearer with the back (and therefore speaker) facing down. At least this works on hard surfaces.
I don't like to listen to music this way. But for podcasts and news I do it all the time. I'm planning to get a One X+, so I hope I can do the same. I suppose I don't really need to see the screen when I'm listening to something like that. But the scratching issue, with the phone sitting on the screen, seems real. (Despite claims to the contrary, Gorilla Glass 2 does scratch.)
cb474 said:
To be fair, Nokia was placing the speakers on the side of the phone, in their N-Series smartphones, long before there was an iPhone. (I know you didn't mean it this way, but I get a little tired of Apple getting credit for so many things that they did not invent.)
Anyway, it's true that a lot of phones position the speaker on the back so that the curvature of the phone creates a small megaphone effect. My Nexus One is actually louder and clearer with the back (and therefore speaker) facing down. At least this works on hard surfaces.
I don't like to listen to music this way. But for podcasts and news I do it all the time. I'm planning to get a One X+, so I hope I can do the same. I suppose I don't really need to see the screen when I'm listening to something like that. But the scratching issue, with the phone sitting on the screen, seems real. (Despite claims to the contrary, Gorilla Glass 2 does scratch.)
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I just see nit picking here. If listening to music or whatever u listen to and u CHOOSE to use the rear speaker, invest $10 in a screen protector and another $15 on a slim case that allows u to place the phone screen down and it will sit on the case, not the screen. Now if ur too OCD for a case then the screen protector will still he just fine. Again, why people aren't using Bluetooth headsets or even a Bluetooth device in one ear to listen to whatever they're listening too is beyond me. To be honest I think this device has a great rear speaker at high volumes and the whole idea behind a speaker is for SPEAKERPHONE, which it serves very well and crisp.
deeznuts said:
I just see nit picking here. If listening to music or whatever u listen to and u CHOOSE to use the rear speaker, invest $10 in a screen protector and another $15 on a slim case that allows u to place the phone screen down and it will sit on the case, not the screen. Now if ur too OCD for a case then the screen protector will still he just fine. Again, why people aren't using Bluetooth headsets or even a Bluetooth device in one ear to listen to whatever they're listening too is beyond me. To be honest I think this device has a great rear speaker at high volumes and the whole idea behind a speaker is for SPEAKERPHONE, which it serves very well and crisp.
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Gee, thanks for the gratuitous critique of how I like to use my phone. What happened to if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all? I really don't need to be told, unsolicited, how to use my phone or what sort of case to get, if any. People have different prefences. And no one wants to be preached to by someone else about how their way is better.
Anyway, I find the built in speaker on phones (like my Nexus One) useful for some purposes other than speakerphone. I'm thinking about getting a One X+, so why shouldn't I be concerned about how well it's speaker phone works, comparatively? I don't want to take step backwards. It's a reasonable discussion to have, to learn more about the One X+.
Nah nothing wrong with the speaker sound, it doesn't sound tinny in any way and in fact all my previous smart phones in my Sig haven't sounded tinny either.
My Nokia brick before my n95 had what I would call a "tinny" speaker some 8/9 or so yrs ago.
The hox+ has a rear amp so try higher quality bitrate music, a 128kb to 256kb mp3 doesn't cut it any more for eg.
Also a gnex would be a step back in all categories as well as software imho to be sure, no need to squabble just do the side by side test before u buy.
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