Can't charge and keep powered off at same time. [VIDEO] - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

If my tablet is shut down and I want to charge I can't do it. Whenever I plug in the charger it boots up why can't I just charge and keep off?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aide...xt=C3dd7c7bUDOEgsToPDskL88JGowjMGzMxmYxBbXJ65

BEcause the Prime wants you to continue using it...lol
Do it like this n should work. Plug the charger into the prime while its on. Then you power down the device like that should stay off.

Plug in the power first and then turn it off.

_Gir_ said:
Plug in the power first and then turn it off.
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demandarin said:
BEcause the Prime wants you to continue using it...lol
Do it like this n should work. Plug the charger into the prime while its on. Then you power down the device like that should stay off.
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yes i do know this method i just want to know why it does this any reason in particular?

tylermaciaszek said:
yes i do know this method i just want to know why it does this any reason in particular?
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I would sign that, it should simply charge and not wake up, this is a bug in my eyes.

Jarbings said:
I would sign that, it should simply charge and not wake up, this is a bug in my eyes.
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its weird because it happens to my samsung infuse too
could the outlet be pushing so many volts or something it just turns on i highly doubt this but who knows maybe its the outlet or something

uploading video of the issue now for all to see!
does anyone else have this issue?

Am I the only one who believes this is by design?

Nope I'm with you

may be by design i just thought it was weird because it happened to my samsung infuse too

same thing happens on my DX running Miui. I think its the firmware. For example, some of you let ur Atp charge 8 hours before booting up, mine didn't even let me have that option, it just turned on
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BUYMECAR said:
Am I the only one who believes this is by design?
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Really? What would possibly be the logic?
I can shut off & charge my phone, camera, laptops, GPS watch, BT speakers, BT earpiece, 2 way radios, etc & not have them power on if they are off when I plug them in.
So... whats the logic here on the only device I have ever seen or used that does this?
I say its a bug and if not a poor design.

Lock-N-Load said:
Really? What would possibly be the logic?
I can shut off & charge my phone, camera, laptops, GPS watch, BT speakers, BT earpiece, 2 way radios, etc & not have them power on if they are off when I plug them in.
So... whats the logic here on the only device I have ever seen or used that does this?
I say its a bug and if not a poor design.
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My samsung omnia did this as well. What is the point of turning it off frequently anyway?

_Gir_ said:
My samsung omnia did this as well. What is the point of turning it off frequently anyway?
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i like to keep mine off while i sleep so when i turn it on in the morning its like a fresh start

I remember my Nokia N900 would always turn on when I tried to charge it while it was off.

Og transformer does this too. Idk why it matters either way. I like to keep my device on anyways.
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_Gir_ said:
My samsung omnia did this as well. What is the point of turning it off frequently anyway?
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"Answering" my question with a question is not an answer.
So again, if a product is off & you decide to charge it for whatever reason you decide - and that reason is irrelevant really - what is the "logic" behind having it power on? What purpose does that serve. Just because you want to charge it does not mean you want it on any more than turning it on means you want it to auto play music. Doing 1 does not logically imply you want the other so what is their logic in deciding for you it will power up?

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"Answering" my question with a question is not an answer.
So again, if a product is off & you decide to charge it for whatever reason you decide - and that reason is irrelevant really - what is the "logic" behind having it power on? What purpose does that serve. Just because you want to charge it does not mean you want it on any more than turning it on means you want it to auto play music. Doing 1 does not logically imply you want the other so what is their logic in deciding for you it will power up?
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Can't I be curious? I did it again, oops.
Maybe the Prime cannot differentiate between being plugged in to a computer to be accessed or being plugged into a wall outlet for charging. So the compromise is that it always turns on.

_Gir_ said:
Maybe the Prime cannot differentiate between being plugged in to a computer to be accessed or being plugged into a wall outlet for charging. So the compromise is so that it always turns on.
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That to me is.... a bug

As said before, it was also the case on the transformer TF101 and apparently on other devices as well... No idea what the logic behind it is (and I'm one of the guys turning his devices off when sleeping so it's a minor annoyance for me too, extremely minor though).

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charging drastically slows the phone down

It's mainly with the wall charger. I have an adapter to use my car charger in the wall. I'm not sure why it slows the phone down. Texting especially a nightmare.
The original charger provided with the phone, or some cheap eBay/China one?
Not the original charger. It's a vz one though
Try the original one. Some aftermarket ones have poor filtering, and will cause problems. Most often noticed as a jumpy touchscreen, but other issues, too. If it works fine on the original, get Verizon to exchange theirs (test the replacement in the store) or return it.
I think it may be this adapter
You didn't accidentally set a low set CPU profile did you?
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I haven't touched it lately. When I did, i overclocked it when it was charging
ucpro said:
Not the original charger. It's a vz one though
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It doesn't matter if it's a VZW car charger, you are using some no-name cheaply made in China POS adapter. This is definitely the reason you are having problems when it is plugged in.
That's what I'm thinking. I may have to get a new adapter because I don't want this to affect my battery life in the long run
ucpro said:
That's what I'm thinking. I may have to get a new adapter because I don't want this to affect my battery life in the long run
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Get the actual HTC one, any of this cheap knockoff crap could be killing the battery.
Same thing here....original VZW charger that came with the phone.
is it just that the touch screen isn't responsive but the phone still runs fine? i have this issue with the original HTC charger so i'm using the one from my moto droid and it doesn't have any problems.
Same issue here. Phone slows down drastically when charging, especially when trying to type on the touch screen. Using original wall charger and cord that came in the box.
The whole system slows down. The keyboard doesn't respond, it takes forever to answer a call etc. I have to unplug it if I'm gonna constantly be using it. I thought it was the adapter, but after seeing everyone else's comments, I'm not too sure anymore
ucpro said:
The whole system slows down. The keyboard doesn't respond, it takes forever to answer a call etc. I have to unplug it if I'm gonna constantly be using it. I thought it was the adapter, but after seeing everyone else's comments, I'm not too sure anymore
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do apps run smoothly? something like angry birds is good to test with this. even if it's hard to play, you can see if the app itself runs normally or slow.
i also have problems with some keys (keyboard) while not charging, the key will stop working and after either typing another word or pressing the key plenty of times, it'll be normal again for a while.
taintphuck: you can try getting the charger replaced first, see if that fixes it.

[Q] Touchstone: Charging Dock and Android

This might seem a silly question seeing as android development is still at the drawing board, but i was wondering if the touchstone wireless charging dock would still work under a android os not sure if the battery itself has some sort of technology that detects the dock or its some sort of webos software that keeps tabs on it?
I'm more concerned with the keyboard working....
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IMHO, the inductive charging is independant of the OS.
Considering the tablet can be charged inductively when powered off, this indicates hardware isolation. So, webOS or Android or Win8... the circuitry is in place to support inductive charging.
If anyone has information to indicate otherwise, i'm all ears (or eyes, as it would be)
BlueGoldAce said:
I'm more concerned with the keyboard working....
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I actually like the look of the keyboard can you use it with windows7 ? as I was told by the staff at currys that they only work with the touchpad
LabattZ said:
IMHO, the inductive charging is independant of the OS.
Considering the tablet can be charged inductively when powered off, this indicates hardware isolation. So, webOS or Android or Win8... the circuitry is in place to support inductive charging.
If anyone has information to indicate otherwise, i'm all ears (or eyes, as it would be)
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I like that theory...not even thought about it but wouldn't want my stand that is arriving tomorrow to be an ornament!
deeman said:
I actually like the look of the keyboard can you use it with windows7 ? as I was told by the staff at currys that they only work with the touchpad
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Tried to pair with my nook color and it was a no go. (the system didn't even see it)
Drachen808 said:
Tried to pair with my nook color and it was a no go. (the system didn't even see it)
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That stinks. I'm glad I held off so far from getting one. Reviewers on Amazon said it works on Windows (aside from missing usual PC keys). I was hoping for NC support too. Oh well, I'll have to keep dreaming for a "universal" BT keyboard with a built-in touchpad then.
LabattZ said:
IMHO, the inductive charging is independant of the OS.
Considering the tablet can be charged inductively when powered off, this indicates hardware isolation. So, webOS or Android or Win8... the circuitry is in place to support inductive charging.
If anyone has information to indicate otherwise, i'm all ears (or eyes, as it would be)
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did you try it when it was fully power off(Holding the power button and selecting power off) or in standby(pressing the power button once)?
The keyboard works fine with windows, but couldn't get my android phone to see it
The howto to get the keyboard working with Android phones is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235210
bushwick2002 said:
did you try it when it was fully power off(Holding the power button and selecting power off) or in standby(pressing the power button once)?
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I did it with the power completely off, not just the display off.
Also wore the tablet down to the point where it wouldn't power on any longer. Put it on the touchstone and it it lit up with a battery (depleted) symbol and stayed lit up. It dimmed a bit after a short period of time but would not shut off even tho I tried to kill the display.
after about what felt like 10min, it booted on it's own and continued to charge - at least with it booted up I could turn the display off and go to sleep.
Unless palm (HP) went to the trouble of placing a switch in place that only enables the wireless receiver in the back of the touchpad on detection of WebOS installation... Id bet it will work just fine.
Side note, I could totally see apple doing just that someday... XD (I see you jailbroke your ipad... NO CHARGING FOR YOU!)
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This might seem a silly question seeing as android development is still at the drawing board, but i was wondering if the touchstone wireless charging dock would still work under a android os not sure if the battery itself has some sort of technology that detects the dock or its some sort of webos software that keeps tabs on it?
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Did not see an answer to this, but I can confirm that it is working. It even does an 'Exhibition' mode where you get offered an app to launch when docked. Mine offered the built in clock as well as "TuneIn" radio.
I'm running ICS on mine.

Can't charge because I am draining too much ;/ Scotty to bridge She got no power left

I drive a VW GTI, I got a bogus speeding ticket (I was going with the flow of traffic!), I was so pist that I went out and bought a Escort Redline (Radar Detector) with the Escort Live app. Essentially my radar detector connects to my phone via blue tooth. I also have my car's stereo has bluetooth (for phone calling) that is also hooked up to my phone via blue tooth. On top of that I also have GPS enabled.
When I plug my car charger, I get a message saying I can't charge my phone because I am using more power then what I am putting back into the phone. Other then the obvious, is there a solution for this problem that allows me to keep this set up without draining the hell out of my battery?
I am using ICS Energy rom (because its awesome!) and the charger is a proprietary device from Escort that plugs into the 12v slot, and the charger has a USB plug in that I just plug my phone into.
I do basic texting and fb, it tells me that as well muchless your setup, lol.
Sounds like the charger is only a 500 mA instead of the 1A you need for the power you're drawing. The stock charger is a 1A
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I do basic texting and fb, it tells me that as well muchless your setup, lol.
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Good god how to you get by! lol! At least yours doesn't drain, I think every 15 minutes kills like 20%. I wouldn't mind if it could just break even, not lose or gain any power.
I'll look into the stock HTC car charger. I really don't want that many wires in my car, I was hoping to use just the one to power the Radar Detector and also my phone. I do have another 12v in the back trunk, I guess I could buy an extension and run it through the floor (under the mat) to the front.
Hey was it just me or was the site offline for like 20 minutes?
F9zSlavik said:
Good god how to you get by! lol! At least yours doesn't drain, I think every 15 minutes kills like 20%. I wouldn't mind if it could just break even, not lose or gain any power.
I'll look into the stock HTC car charger. I really don't want that many wires in my car, I was hoping to use just the one to power the Radar Detector and also my phone. I do have another 12v in the back trunk, I guess I could buy an extension and run it through the floor (under the mat) to the front.
Hey was it just me or was the site offline for like 20 minutes?
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I get that message using the stock charger and yeah it was down for a bit, try reducing your background programs, dropping your brightness to the lowest possible setting and change screen timeout, etc, see how much load you can reduce other than those that you want to have running.
Dark Nightmare said:
I get that message using the stock charger and yeah it was down for a bit, try reducing your background programs, dropping your brightness to the lowest possible setting and change screen timeout, etc, see how much load you can reduce other than those that you want to have running.
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Really? Defective charger? Just curious, what rom are you using?
Yeah I'll try that.
Side note, if you guys want to coppers off you ass, get an escort radar detector! Their app is awesome too.
F9zSlavik said:
Really? Defective charger? Just curious, what rom are you using?
Yeah I'll try that.
Side note, if you guys want to coppers off you ass, get an escort radar detector! Their app is awesome too.
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I have two stock and like six other chargers around my house, so defective is a nope, I don't have a car yet either.
Forgot to mention I was on Telus stock, light tweaked.
Really? Stock? Why is that? Circuit board going bad then? Seems odd that it would say that when your not doing anything. I tried Speed Rom for about a week, it is sooo glitchy ;/
Yeah I notice a lot of the Devs here are pretty young lol. I'm 27, this car is my first buy xD SO! I recommend a radar detector when you buy a buy/own a car, and if it legal, also laser/radar jammers! You will save yourself time and money! I live in California, stupid state one of two that bans laser jamming ;/
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Really? Stock? Why is that? Circuit board going bad then? Seems odd that it would say that when your not doing anything. I tried Speed Rom for about a week, it is sooo glitchy ;/
Yeah I notice a lot of the Devs here are pretty young lol. I'm 27, this car is my first buy xD SO! I recommend a radar detector when you buy a buy/own a car, and if it legal, also laser/radar jammers! You will save yourself time and money! I live in California, stupid state one of two that bans laser jamming ;/
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NYC probably has that ban as well, since it's practically hardcore like cali is, na, my device is fine, it happened on my first device, but I think it's due to my background apps and screen brightness that uses more power than the charger can push at times.
Your car charger should at least be a 1 amp output. Plug it into the phone and check the Power status. Should be "Charging AC" otherwise it's not 1 amp charger.
Sam's club sells one for 10 bucks.

Batterys & Pull's

Ok i Dont ever use my port for charging just because i dont needa risk something happin.. anyway i use a wall charger and i have 2 extra batteries.. My question is does it afect my phone to just pull the battery without shuting it down.. whatever im in the middle of ill just take it out n swap. . sometimes my phone acts alittle weird when i boot and sometimes it dosnt. just always woundered
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Ok i Dont ever use my port for charging just because i dont needa risk something happin.. anyway i use a wall charger and i have 2 extra batteries.. My question is does it afect my phone to just pull the battery without shuting it down.. whatever im in the middle of ill just take it out n swap. . sometimes my phone acts alittle weird when i boot and sometimes it dosnt. just always woundered
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Shouldn't hurt anything. I used to do all the time when I listened to internet radio on my headset at work. I had to swap out a battery about every 3 hours. Like two or three times a day. I had a stack of batteries on my desk and would just rotate em in and out of the charger.
As far as I know linux/Android resets on every boot. A bit different than windows. You may get some inaccurate battery stats but that shouldn't matter because you will swap it out again with another one.
I know, the port on this phone is in a weird spot. Awkward to hold and play on the phone while charging.
The EVO 4G LTE does not have a removeable battery. So when the phone is dead, it has to be on the charger. You cannot charge the battery on an external charger. I would hate that.
I know with computers it's a bad idea. If the computer is writing something to disk, that file could get corrupted. This could lead to issues if that file is critical.
My guess is that it works similarly on the phone, but I'm not an Android engineer. Maybe there is a tolerance built in.
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coal686 said:
I know with computers it's a bad idea. If the computer is writing something to disk, that file could get corrupted. This could lead to issues if that file is critical.
My guess is that it works similarly on the phone, but I'm not an Android engineer. Maybe there is a tolerance built in.
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True that if I were downloading something or installing something, I would not recommend yanking the battery as you would definitely corrupt that file.
In fact to be on the safe side I'd set up on icon on the home screen to just power off and do that before I pulled the back off.
zcink said:
True that if I were downloading something or installing something, I would not recommend yanking the battery as you would definitely corrupt that file.
In fact to be on the safe side I'd set up on icon on the home screen to just power off and do that before I pulled the back off.
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You can download quickboot, which also turns you phone off
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zcink said:
Yes, that is the app I was thinking of. (I love that app -- use it all the time).
It has a shortcut you can put on the home screen for just poweroff.
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Yes a widget, love it to, I use my power button just to turn my phone on
sent on my Evil Evo running the other kernel 3.2.8
thanks for the answers.. ive found what ive needed out

Wireless Charging

I just picked up a wireless charging pad from my VZW store.
I love it!
I can now just set my phone on the nightstand next to the bed and not have to worry about plugging it in.
Thank you HTC for finally making this built in, and not an option!
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I really like this idea. I've currently got a dock for my Rezound, and while it is more convenient than a loose cable most of the time, its still fan be a bit of a pain sometimes.
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dsb9938 said:
I just picked up a wireless charging pad from my VZW store.
I love it!
I can now just set my phone on the nightstand next to the bed and not have to worry about plugging it in.
Thank you HTC for finally making this built in, and not an option!
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Did you get the LG one? If so, supposedly the thing beeps super loudly every time the charger turns on according to the Amazon.com reviews.
You are supposed to be able to take it apart and remove the speaker from the board.
I just ordered 2 for $35 ea from there... hoping for the best.
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Did you get the LG one? If so, supposedly the thing beeps super loudly every time the charger turns on according to the Amazon.com reviews.
You are supposed to be able to take it apart and remove the speaker from the board.
I just ordered 2 for $35 ea from there... hoping for the best.
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I did, but I don't mind the beep. It doesn't seem that loud to me.
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dsb9938 said:
I did, but I don't mind the beep. It doesn't seem that loud to me.
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Great. I'm curious if the beep happens every time the charger kicks on (I believe it shuts off automatically when the phone is fully charged) or if it's just one "beep" when the phone is set down on it.
Either way, I'll probably be disconnecting the speaker since I will use one bedside (don't want to wake the sig other) and one at work and don't want to bother my coworkers either.
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Great. I'm curious if the beep happens every time the charger kicks on (I believe it shuts off automatically when the phone is fully charged) or if it's just one "beep" when the phone is set down on it.
Either way, I'll probably be disconnecting the speaker since I will use one bedside (don't want to wake the sig other) and one at work and don't want to bother my coworkers either.
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When you set it down. The beep is to tell you it's placed correctly on the mat.
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dsb9938 said:
When you set it down. The beep is to tell you it's placed correctly on the mat.
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Right on.. I'll be able to tell that by the lightning symbol in the battery icon too.
Beep be damned! lol
I'm planning on getting the Energizer one.
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Sin...76&sr=8-3&keywords=energizer+wireless+charger
Spaded21 said:
I'm planning on getting the Energizer one.
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Sin...76&sr=8-3&keywords=energizer+wireless+charger
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Looks like a good choice, although more $ and out of stock apparently (for now).
dsb9938 said:
I just picked up a wireless charging pad from my VZW store.
I love it!
I can now just set my phone on the nightstand next to the bed and not have to worry about plugging it in.
Thank you HTC for finally making this built in, and not an option!
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i was on the fence yesterday about getting it, and picked it up today and i am so glad i did. i especially like how firm of a grip it has. i still think i may pick up the energizer one from amazon so i can have one at home and one at the office
I'm thinking of picking up the LG pad (and ripping the speaker out) to put on my desk. I can't think of anything more convenient that just putting the phone down and it charging up. I'll probably continue to use a charger at night for now. I'm not really crazy about the LG pad, and you know there'll be more options out there soon. I'd rather hold off and get one that's maybe more stylish, or slimmer (and no beep!) before I invest in a second pad.
I'd like to see a USB powered pad if possible, so I could toss it in my bag and take it to work with me (no free outlets at my desk so I currently charge my phone through the USB port).
I just ordered the nokia charger from verizons website, it is compatible with DNA.
Long Term Use
I have read that wireless charging causes the battery to get warmer than corded charging. I wonder since this is a non-replaceable battery will that effect the overall life of the battery. Is anyone else worried about long term use of a charging pad. I love the idea but wonder if it will cause issues later on.
Matto2007 said:
I have read that wireless charging causes the battery to get warmer than corded charging. I wonder since this is a non-replaceable battery will that effect the overall life of the battery. Is anyone else worried about long term use of a charging pad. I love the idea but wonder if it will cause issues later on.
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What I'm worried about is the constant charging and discharging that will happen when we're forced to charge it over night, at work, and then in the car.
also picked up a wireless pad for the dna and it was only $35 on amazon! i was shocked! great deal! dont know how far away it will work from the pad???
luke1333 said:
also picked up a wireless pad for the dna and it was only $35 on amazon! i was shocked! great deal! dont know how far away it will work from the pad???
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Could you provide a link please
luke1333 said:
...dont know how far away it will work from the pad???
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The phone has to be on the pad for it to charge.
jj3699 said:
Could you provide a link please
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right here man....
http://www.amazon.com/LG-WCP-700-Po...id=1353287259&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+charging+pad
welcome!
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The phone has to be on the pad for it to charge.
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so it wont work an inch above at all?
I didn't see it answered anywhere, but if you go with the wireless charger will you be able to keep a slim case on it? I don't want to put an otterbox on it or anything since it is already a pretty big phone, but I would like to put one of those slim form-fitting cases on it.
volfan22 said:
I didn't see it answered anywhere, but if you go with the wireless charger will you be able to keep a slim case on it? I don't want to put an otterbox on it or anything since it is already a pretty big phone, but I would like to put one of those slim form-fitting cases on it.
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the one i just picked up today says that it is wireless charger compatible, i will know for sure tomorrow when i get to the office and throw it on there. if it isnt, it will be going back super quick

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