So im still debating of getting a razor since the maxx came out however i still havent found something that the razor is better in from the nexus. As right now i just know the razor has better signal and sound/call quality (call quality i could careless about as i dont call that much). The very very main thing thats keeping me away from the razor is the locked bootloader and the possibility of a dev-dead device. ICS, not a big deal razor will get it eventually. So back to the main thing, what is there about the razor that is "WOW OMFG" over the nexus? CPU? GPU? Im super frustrated over this as verizon has only 1 exchange and i do not wanna screw it up.
Build Quality.
The droid RAZR has one of the best hardware specifications in the market, however there are some phones which got better hardware like Galaxy Note for example.
But the WOW about the droid RAZR which I couldn't find in any other android phone is it's build quality and it's solid feel. It's so sexy. Kelvar fabrics on the back, gorilla glass on the front, coating around the hardware which protects it from water, amazingly thin. I love my RAZR
Along with it's smart acessories, just check the look on your friends when you attach you're phone to the laptop dock and start using it as your laptop.
When I used to compare my previous android phones with iPhone I used to feel that my phone is cheaper.
With the RAZR you wont get that feeling.
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So im still debating of getting a razor since the maxx came out however i still havent found something that the razor is better in from the nexus. As right now i just know the razor has better signal and sound/call quality (call quality i could careless about as i dont call that much). The very very main thing thats keeping me away from the razor is the locked bootloader and the possibility of a dev-dead device. ICS, not a big deal razor will get it eventually. So back to the main thing, what is there about the razor that is "WOW OMFG" over the nexus? CPU? GPU? Im super frustrated over this as verizon has only 1 exchange and i do not wanna screw it up.
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It's comments like this that kill the internet, if you have an opinion share it. If not, bugger off. I'm pretty sure people know how to google, they got here, right?
ANYWAY, back on the topic:
Hardware wise - the only thing the Gnex has that the RAZR doesn't is NFC and a slightly curved screen. The Gnex's camera is only 5mp I belive, whereas the RAZR's is 8 - So hardwarewise, I'd go with the RAZR
Feeling - like stated, the RAZR feels solid and amazing in your hands. It's a little big (some people's thumbs cant reach all the way across), but for most that isn't a deal breaker. The curve of the Gnex literally does nothing for me. and the Gnex kinda has that plasticy feel that does make it seem cheap.
Software - yes Gnex has ICS, and as everyone knows, the RAZR is poised toget it. BUT Gingerbread right now isn't too shabby on it. The RAZR has the best stock OS I've seen. I actually have turned down ROMs because the stock is sexy, sleek and works very well with the device.
Hackability - This is the sad part for me.
The Gnex has an unlocked bootloader and some pretty amazing ROMs already.
Moto seems hellbent on not unlocking the bootloader, so ROM development has to get creative on the RAZR, there's some great ROMs, but they're "fun" to build and implement.
Hope that helps a little.
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i can bet 50$ right on the table that 80% if not all your 128 post are like this, pointless and useless. I am looking for a user experience, opinion not **** google provides. So please get a life and quit posting dumb things around and clutter the forums. Im surprised you still haven't gotten banned.
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It's comments like this that kill the internet, if you have an opinion share it. If not, bugger off. I'm pretty sure people know how to google, they got here, right?
ANYWAY, back on the topic:
Hardware wise - the only thing the Gnex has that the RAZR doesn't is NFC and a slightly curved screen. The Gnex's camera is only 5mp I belive, whereas the RAZR's is 8 - So hardwarewise, I'd go with the RAZR
Feeling - like stated, the RAZR feels solid and amazing in your hands. It's a little big (some people's thumbs cant reach all the way across), but for most that isn't a deal breaker. The curve of the Gnex literally does nothing for me. and the Gnex kinda has that plasticy feel that does make it seem cheap.
Software - yes Gnex has ICS, and as everyone knows, the RAZR is poised toget it. BUT Gingerbread right now isn't too shabby on it. The RAZR has the best stock OS I've seen. I actually have turned down ROMs because the stock is sexy, sleek and works very well with the device.
Hackability - This is the sad part for me.
The Gnex has an unlocked bootloader and some pretty amazing ROMs already.
Moto seems hellbent on not unlocking the bootloader, so ROM development has to get creative on the RAZR, there's some great ROMs, but they're "fun" to build and implement.
Hope that helps a little.
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thank you for the neat rightup. got me leaning now towards the razr maxx. I release now how cheap the nexus is.
I originally purchased the RAZR on release day, and really liked it. But the inner hacker in me was let down. Until recently there was no SBF file, and only one ROM for it (for the Verizon RAZR), and no unlocked bootloader. So I gave it to the wife and bought myself a Galaxy Nexus. And it pacifies the inner hacker, being VERY difficult to brick. I truly like both. If you want a phone that is aesthetically pleasing, feels like granite, but you arent too in to messing with it, then the RAZR is for you. If you want to overclock it until it bleeds electrons and try out ROM after ROM after ROM, then the GNex is for you.
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i can bet 50$ right on the table that 80% if not all your 128 post are like this, pointless and useless. I am looking for a user experience, opinion not **** google provides. So please get a life and quit posting dumb things around and clutter the forums. Im surprised you still haven't gotten banned.
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Calm down, sport. You owe me $50.
The RAZR overall has better specs. So in the long run, when it get ICS, it'll be better than Nexus. Hope that helps; dry up those tears.
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There is at least 8 different roms for the RAZR over at droidrzr.com they have alot of exclusive content... there is now an alpha build of cm9 that kicks @ss! So if the locked bootloader is stopping you, it isn't stopping our devoted developers
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I run a group on Yahoo. We have archives going back to 1996. But when someone asks a question that has been asked many times before, we answer it. Because we are a community, and we help and support one another, and the answer may be different now than it was then. This is in part a social place, so let's be sociable and help one another. It will pay dividends in the long run.
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There is at least 8 different roms for the RAZR over at droidrzr.com they have alot of exclusive content... there is now an alpha build of cm9 that kicks @ss! So if the locked bootloader is stopping you, it isn't stopping our devoted developers
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If there is a alpha build of cm9 for the razr, I'm sold. Picking one up the maxx first thing tmr. Thank you guys.
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Why did you even bother to post this? I never understand how people can be so *****y. Did you just get out of bed this morning and say to yourself, "gee, i'm going to go get on my computer and read the RAZR XDA forums and see if i can find a posts where i can seem like a smartass" I hate myself for even replying to this, but hopefully the flaming you get will make you think again before doing so.
As for the question at hand...
Having had both, i like the RAZR better. ICS seems buggy and nexus is going to be a vanilla phone. I for one hate AOSP and that's what you get, no bells and whistles. It feels bigger, wierd and looks ugly to me. Webtop is something that i use daily and 3 co-workers have bought a razr because of just seeing my phone. nobody even game my Nexus a second look.
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Why did you even bother to post this? I never understand how people can be so *****y. Did you just get out of bed this morning and say to yourself, "gee, i'm going to go get on my computer and read the RAZR XDA forums and see if i can find a posts where i can seem like a smartass" I hate myself for even replying to this, but hopefully the flaming you get will make you think again before doing so.
As for the question at hand...
Having had both, i like the RAZR better. ICS seems buggy and nexus is going to be a vanilla phone. I for one hate AOSP and that's what you get, no bells and whistles. It feels bigger, wierd and looks ugly to me. Webtop is something that i use daily and 3 co-workers have bought a razr because of just seeing my phone. nobody even game my Nexus a second look.
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I oversee and manage programmers for a living. So it must be my "look it up" views kicking in. Sorry. I think.
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I oversee and manage programmers for a living. So it must be my "look it up" views kicking in. Sorry. I think.
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an apology goes a long way here. We appreciate that.
Just a note to that. I'm a senior programmer and what makes me that is not just how awesome my skills are, but how well I teach it to others. I'm bombarded by novice questions all the time and many times i have to repeat myself in the same answer. But its more than just being nice, it grows the company for me to share even if it pains me. A prosperous company will circle back to prosper me. I could answer "didn't i tell you that last week, or Check your email, it was emailed a month ago to the group" but that will just make them not to want to ask, learn, and eventually I will be the only one that knows how to do it. Which is not good for anyone.
If people who ask novice questions here are put off, they will leave. If they learn, perhaps they can learn enough to become developers and perhaps give you the next greatest ROM here. At least that's how i think of it.
I apologize myself for elaborating, but on the surface it appears as two wrongs. Thought it was worth the explanation as to why we came down on you too. Good to see we all see the bigger picture here.
No one has mentioned the web top yet. That is a big feature for me.
There are also some awesome devs working on this phone at droidrzr and they have been cranking out the ROMs over the last month. There is a pretty good variety including ICS
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Intesting Question.
There is no doubt that the Razr has a superior build quality. I have the Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket and judging from the build of the SII the Razr if far superior, as far as design the SII is a bit generic since this design is starting to be dated. The Razr has an interesting design somewhat staying away from the rectangle that Apple is trying to lay claim to. The Razr seems very solid in feel and I notice no creaks, or loose fitting parts. Trust me I've had 2 Razrs both was returned to Rogers and the Third I'm using as a spare at the moment. All three had a really good build quality, aside from that OS has somewhat of an issue. What I did notice is that I believe the software has something to do with the Random shutdowns and the second one just dieing. The Third one has been sent to repair and has been reflashed, having the phone on for 2 days I had no random reboot or shutdown so far. It looks as thought build is great but os or firmware has issues.
And here i am. Didnt feel like waiting till tmr so i went out and go it today. I dont know what i was thinking picking up the nexus. Well i have some studing to do on how to root, flash. Thank you guys for convincing me to go with the razr. Its one great device, i already love it like i did my atrix 4g.
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You won't be disappointed
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Aside from what i read so far.
*Smart actions - auto turn on vibrate when i get to work, church etc. Reminx me to charge battery, save battery etc.
*motocast - i access or stream files from my home server like they were on my phone. Personal cloud!
Loud speakerphone - pretty important to me.
And moto accessories can't be beat.
I couldn't go back to a normal car dock. The built in car software that is triggered by the dock is amazing.
Webtop laptop option and more
The Gnex has non of the above.
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No one has mentioned the web top yet. That is a big feature for me.
There are also some awesome devs working on this phone at droidrzr and they have been cranking out the ROMs over the last month. There is a pretty good variety including ICS
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Very Good point as well. Although I don't use the webtop - that is certainly a selling point for the RAZR.
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I recently acquired both an X and an X2. Have to keep one and sell the other. I just moved from the Incredible, which has awesome development, so I'm a little spoiled.
Seems that the X is a little further along the development cycle (makes sense), but I REALLY like the screen, CPU, and GPU of the X2.
Do I keep the X2 and hope for more development (really wanting CM7 or MIUI), or do I keep the X, which already has some pretty stable ROMs? I worry that many of the Devs are just going to bypass the X2 and move on to a more dev-friendly device or on to the Bionic or something.
Please help me decide which to hold on to!! Incidently, I don't have to sell one off for another week or two, so there is a little more time to see if CM7 can come out for the X2 I guess.
I don't see much happening with the x2 honestly. I'll be selling my x2 once the galaxy s2 arrives unless we get a break in development on this phone.
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I don't see much happening with the x2 honestly. I'll be selling my x2 once the galaxy s2 arrives
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Good im pretty sure the devs hate ungrateful people. There is alot happening on this phone. Only thing we are missing is the bootloader.
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EvilTim said:
Good im pretty sure the devs hate ungrateful people. There is alot happening on this phone. Only thing we are missing is the bootloader.
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I Hate Ungrateful People, I Am So Happy And Appreciative For Everything Anyone Does ForThis Phone. I Try To Help Out By Either Providing New Information Or Helping Someone Figure Things Out So They Hold Onto The X2. This Device Definitely Needs Support To Sway Developers To Wanna Put Their Time In. Once Again Thank You To Everyone Who Has/Is Working On This To Make It Better For All.
its funny to me everyone keeps talking about switching from a new device to something even newer as if support for that will be any better every device takes time I'm sticking with x2 at least for another 5-6 months.
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Guys, I'm completely new to both the X and the X2. I have no prior experience with either device, nor do I have a bias. I have read enough on all the various forums to see the hatred for one or both phones. Point is, I can only keep one of these bad boys. Like them both. Just hoping someone with more inside knowledge than myself can give me a better indication on future development potential.
From my fresh perspective on both of these phones, it is clear that the X has already had significant development (I love CM7 and MIUI Roms from my Incredible), and it seems like a gamble to hold onto the X2 because it may OR may not get to that point. Does this sound about right?? Again, not hating on either phone or community. This wasn't intended to be an "I'm moving on" thread. It's a "help me choose" thread. Thanks.
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Guys, I'm completely new to both the X and the X2. I have no prior experience with either device, nor do I have a bias. I have read enough on all the various forums to see the hatred for one or both phones. Point is, I can only keep one of these bad boys. Like them both. Just hoping someone with more inside knowledge than myself can give me a better indication on future development potential.
From my fresh perspective on both of these phones, it is clear that the X has already had significant development (I love CM7 and MIUI Roms from my Incredible), and it seems like a gamble to hold onto the X2 because it may OR may not get to that point. Does this sound about right?? Again, not hating on either phone or community. This wasn't intended to be an "I'm moving on" thread. It's a "help me choose" thread. Thanks.
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CM7 And BAMF Are Coming To The X2 "Soon"
It's Gonna Be A Couple More Weeks At LEAST Before We Are To See Either A Beta Or Stable Rom. I Hope That Clarifies What You Want To Know.
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CM7 And BAMF Are Coming To The X2 "Soon"
It's Gonna Be A Couple More Weeks At LEAST Before We Are To See Either A Beta Or Stable Rom. I Hope That Clarifies What You Want To Know.
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It does help some. It seems that one dev working on CM7 is needing some help though, and not getting it. That's what I'm reading into the posts anyway. No disrespect to the dev who's working on it. I just know that these things seem to require multiple devs working on teams. So if you can tell me definitively that CM7 will come, I'm a happy camper.
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It does help some. It seems that one dev working on CM7 is needing some help though, and not getting it. That's what I'm reading into the posts anyway. No disrespect to the dev who's working on it. I just know that these things seem to require multiple devs working on teams. So if you can tell me definitively that CM7 will come, I'm a happy camper.
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One Thing You Really Need To Understand There Is Nothing Definite With Developing. It Can Take Numerous Trial And Errors Before Done Or It May Never Happen At All.
we should all be happy that moto surprisingly did an awesome job with the GB update, it added so much polish that was lacking in previous builds and helped speed up our phones greatly. If you want MIUI so bad, there is a launcher that mimics MIUI ROM This phone has only been popular for like 2 months, that is NOT enough time for any development to happen lol so just get Rooted GB, Freeze Bloat, Supercharge this bad boy and if you want to run the MIUI Launcher and have one of the fastest phones on the market
It's really a no-brainer. The X2 is way above the X in performance. IMHO, it's the best phone that Verizon sells, unless you really must have 4G service. Both phones have the lousy Blur interface, but you can customize them, as you know, with aftermarket launchers and programs. Both phones have locked bootloaders, so not a lot of development.
There has recently been some increased development interest in the X2, however. Gingerbread (2.3.3) is the most recent OS, and there is now a pre-rooted version of Gingerbread readily available. As for ROMs, "Eclipse" is well liked and seems to be extremely well thought out. Most recent edition has done away with most of the Blur interface. More details here.
If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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Well that was rather immature and "toolish" ... just don't post if your feelings are that negative
On another note, I would say to keep the X2. It is a more powerful in all aspects.
X2 is one badass piece of hardware. Period.
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If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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If the clown can find time to reprimand me for being helpful and using another word for excrement, where is he when all this guy posts is Flamebait?
On topic, if you want cm7, stay with the x. If you can wait, keep your x2
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If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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Oh come on guys, this was by FAR the most useful reply I got
Seriously though, thanks for the input for those who actually took time to post something meaningful. I know the X2 is a great piece of hardware, but my rooted Incredible running AOSP was actually faster and more responsive than this thing is right now, so I guess I'm suffering from some withdrawl. I'll root, debloat, supercharge, etc and see how it goes. I'll probably hold on to the X2 and hope for the best because I'd hate to be kicking myself a month from now when CM7 and then MIUI get unleashed. Surely those two ROMs running on this hardware will perform better than my Incredible, not to mention better than the original X.
Of course, if development completely halts in a month then I'll probably just beat my head and cry for what might have been, had I kept the original X. Time will tell. I.....must.......be.........patient.............
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Oh come on guys, this was by FAR the most useful reply I got
Seriously though, thanks for the input for those who actually took time to post something meaningful. I know the X2 is a great piece of hardware, but my rooted Incredible running AOSP was actually faster and more responsive than this thing is right now, so I guess I'm suffering from some withdrawl. I'll root, debloat, supercharge, etc and see how it goes. I'll probably hold on to the X2 and hope for the best because I'd hate to be kicking myself a month from now when CM7 and then MIUI get unleashed. Surely those two ROMs running on this hardware will perform better than my Incredible, not to mention better than the original X.
Of course, if development completely halts in a month then I'll probably just beat my head and cry for what might have been, had I kept the original X. Time will tell. I.....must.......be.........patient.............
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I'm stuck with the phone for the next 18 months, so I won't let it die! How many possble character combinations could there be for the unlock code?
WOW, well the people who are complaining and moaning about not seeing much happening are welcome to leave, nitroglycerine is doing great things with what hes got and CM7 will be a gateway, I'd stick with the X2, it's got tons of potential and is definitely a top of the line device but everything that needs to be done won't just happen overnight, I would suggest hanging in there.
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WOW, well the people who are complaining and moaning about not seeing much happening are welcome to leave, nitroglycerine is doing great things with what hes got and CM7 will be a gateway, I'd stick with the X2, it's got tons of potential and is definitely a top of the line device but everything that needs to be done won't just happen overnight, I would suggest hanging in there.
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Agreed. As more development gets done more developers will get onboard, hopefully. And sooner or later, the bootloader will get cracked & then the fun starts. You'd kick yourself for missing that...& don't forget navendrob, thatdudebutch(team bamf ) & dragonzkiller are working on good things for us too.
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Im stuck on what to do. I cant decide if I should hold out for a nexus or just buckle and get a razr. I've held the razr in hand and I do love it.
The reason I wanted a nexus was the "pure" google experience. Basically I just dont like a bunch of crap installed on my phone and I dont really like "blur" or senseui.
Here are my concerns.
- Development support. The razr seems pretty popular so I would say its safe to assume this phone will have attention, am I wrong?
- Is the 720 screen that much nicer on the nexus than the qhd screen on the razr...I've look at the rezound and the razr seems to have a more vibrant screen. I know their two different screens but I feel the rezound has washed out colors compared to the razr
- I could care less about nfc, doesnt seem to be taking off anytime soon
Is the nexus just over hyped? Considering its not THAT much better true spec wise than the razr and its being released over a month after it...my only real draw to it is the fact I can unlock the bootloader with one command and do what I want. Im assuming the razr will be pretty popular in the dev community once things get unlocked with it as well...
Thoughts? Am I overhyping the nexus and should just get a razr? I should add I'm not the most delicate with phones.
Based on what you've said, you should probably wait till the Galaxy Nexus is available for demo in your local store so you can get a comparison hands-on experience. Why pull the trigger now? The Nexus is almost here. You can wait a few more weeks. If you get the Razr now, you'll just be kicking yourself for the next two years, wondering if the Nexus would have been better or not. Wait a few weeks and then read all the new Nexus users posts to see what they think. Plus, don't you wanna know which has better battery life?
In regards to not being delicate with phones ... many of us are not, there are tons of protective cases to choose from, and there is insurance you can get for your phone. Don't let the Razr's Kevlar or Gorilla glass let you think the Razr is automatically more sturdy than a Nexus or any phone for that matter. That's just advertising flair. If you drop either, they will both get damaged. All phones are susceptible to damage.
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Wait I have nothing bad to say about the razr but I love what Ive seen of the galaxy as well hype features aside on both it comes down to what you willing to hold on to for 2 years
If you want one device for the next two years then get the nexus. At least you know the OS will be updated many times along the way. Although the Moto is a very good quality device and will easily last the two years...
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I also have the same concerns as the TS. I really love the RAZR but am holding back because I don't know how the dev community will be for it (of course it will never be on par with the Nexus, I know). Also, since I will be purchasing the GSM version, I should have an unlocked bootloader, yes? Please correct me if I am wrong
I am in the same situation as the OP. The only exception is that I have already gotten the Razr as an additional line. I am trying it out to see if I like it. The development for me seems so complicated. I have NEVER owned a Moto Droid so this bootstrap, recovery stuff is all way over my head. I mean I understand what needs to be done to flash things but I don't understand WHY? This might be because I have a thunderbolt and a week after launch day I rooted it and was able to boot into recovery and bootloader without anything additional (the TB was my first android).
I like everything about the Razr except that part I mentioned. The only thing holding me back on the GN is only what I have heard here on XDA. Battery life, instability, file transfers, lack of external memory and others i can't think of off the top of my head.
I wonder if all these things will be address when it is updated? Or will the VZW version not have many of these issues. I guess i will also have to wait until the GN is official to make my final decision. I like the way ICS works and cannot wait for it. I also know that the Razr will be updated to it early next years so i am TORN!
Anyone have any insight, thoughts or suggestions?
Gn is a good phone but it is nowhere near razr about quality. Specs talk for itself, razr looks better and feels stronger.
Hi Guys,
I've been considering between getting this or a Galaxy Nexus. I'd pretty much almost decided on the RAZR due to the superior build quality, but after looking on here; im now not too sure - 10 pages of the General Discussion threads paints an image of doom and gloom, faulty displays, stuck pixels, freezing, overheating etc.
Do you guys who own one of these recommend it or should i avoid and go for the Plasticy Nexus?
Look forward to hearing your opinions and any useful advice.
Cheers
Paul
I say no. Get the Nexus! Especially if you like to flash new roms!! Or if you want the Razr, get the Nexus and I'll trade you!!!
Wait for the razr maxx...awesome 3300 mah battery!
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I am looking between razr and rezound due to reception issues with nexus-i already had the charge and dealt with the reception woes from Samsung. Too bad reception is so bad it ruins the otherwise superior choice
I think you'd really like the RAZR, but wait for the MAXX so you don't have to worry about conserving battery. The extra thickness will make it more comfortable to hold as well.
Cheers for the advice guys.
Im still not sure what to go for though
I liked the build quality and design of the RAZR and actually like how slim it is. Not too fussed about the bigger battery in the RAZR Maxx - i generally stick my phone on charge every night so im sure the RAZR would get me through a day safely to be charged up and ready to go the next day.
The Nexus i'm interested in the HD display and Ice Cream Sandwich but im not too keen on the design and cheap look and feel of the device. It just seems to lack something i cant put my finger on.
The risk of getting a RAZR with issues seems to be too high though - why cant i have the Nexus put into the RAZR shell!!
paulrgod, I agree with alexh037 in saying wait for the Droid Razr Maxx (if possible). I went from the Samsung Fascinate (loved it) and wanted the Galaxy S II phone, but Verizon is the only carrier which decided to skip the Galaxy S II and go straight to the Nexus. I looked at the Nexus, the Razr, and the Rezound and the Razr won out. I understand the camera short commings, but I don't use my phone as my "main" means of photography, I use it as a phone and appointment keeper. The reception this thing has beats the Fasinate hands down. And ditto with sound quality (and loudness). The Razr is very easy to understand people I am talking with, and they say I am crystal clear even with a lot of background noise going on.
My only dissapointment is the Razr was released to the world in November 2011, and here it is two months later and the Razr Maxx is being released with almost twice the battery. Sucks for us early adopters!
I personally don't think it sucks. The original RAZR is amazingly SLIM. The new one is just .. sorry - FAT. And the current battery is OK. Most Android phones run on battery for one, max two days and you will achieve this with RAZR, too.
It depends on what u want from your phone i guess. I like both of them. But i definitely like how the razr looks and feels better then the nexus. But my only concern is getting back to stock using the fastboot files. Seems like alot of people are having trouble doin it. The nexus I think is pretty much impossible to brick and your able to unlock it. But i really don't care about a locked bootloader. I care about how difficult it is to get back to stock if u root the razr and something goes way wrong.
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I've read somewhere that the gnex's antenna is lacking.... that is a deal breaker for me... that's why I chose the RAZR, locked bootloader didn't stop my DroidX from getting quite a handful of roms, so I jumped on the RAZR wagon and am loving it
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Having had both I would recommend the Galaxy Nexus.
I used the Razr for about 5-6 weeks before picking up a Nexus. I really like the Razr and it is a great phone. I ended up having some issues with it though and that is what caused me to switch.
What I took into consideration:
Not receiving all text. People would show me the time stamped text on their phone, and I had not received in on mine hours later. (This was not a sim issue since I am using the same sim in my Nexus)
Locked bootloader. I know this had been talked about to death, but it is what it is. I never rooted my Razr because I had a Bionic before. I rooted my Bionic and one of the biggest draw-backs on the Bionic was the chance of being stuck with a hybrid off the update path. I just didn't want to deal with that on the Razr.
Lastly the screen on the Nexus got me. Watch the same youtube HD video, or put the same HD wallpaper on both phones and there is a big difference. More than I really thought there would be. For me, the screen is the biggest part of the phone. It hard to explain internals to the everyday person, but everyone can see the screen.
I also really like the feel of the Nexus in my hand. And as far as build quality, I have never known anyone to have a phone disintegrate in their hands. The Razr has superb build quality, but the Nexus isn't made out of tissue paper either.
Both phones are great! At the end of the day you need to decide which features are the most important to you. Then pick the one that suits you. If you need a large amount of storage then definitely pick the Razr. Just remember its not the do or die situation everyone makes it out to be. Pick what you like. Its like choosing between Ferrari or Lamborghini, Mercedes or BMW.
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I've read somewhere that the gnex's antenna is lacking.... that is a deal breaker for me... that's why I chose the RAZR, locked bootloader didn't stop my DroidX from getting quite a handful of roms, so I jumped on the RAZR wagon and am loving it
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This would be a big deal for anyone if it were true. but its not. Its only the way the signal is reported on the phone. Technically the Nexus is more accurate. The Razr and others display an inflated signal.
I will say that on the Bionic and Razr (although not near as bad as the Bionic) i did drop in and out of 4G regularly. Sometimes it would say I have 4G or I would be on wifi, but I would have no data connectivity. I would have to toggle airplane or wifi to get data back.
I live in a market that has had 4G for over a year now and I have had solid coverage since my Thunderbolt.
Yes, you should go for it. Mind you that most of those whiners are trolls who work as professional sh*t throwers. Razr is a durable and yet fast device. It works as it should out of the box. It didn't get a major update yet but its soon. All of the minor bugs will be corrected with the ICS build.
Thanks again for the feedback guys - i guess i need some more hands on time with both handsets to make up my mind. I'll see if i can get hands on tomorrow!
Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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not necessarily "razr" threads, but motorola threads as a whole. very little "community" in most motorola threads compared to others.
very true though. I remember when i first picked up the Atrix on release day. For 2 weeks, there are SO little development updates. But about 8 months prior when I picked up the HTC Evo, the threads were updating almost non-stop.
Motorola released lots of "major" and "flagship" phones, but all of the phones pretty much failed to deliver in so many facets. While I've still got love for motorola, i cannot say i am not disappointed.
I have yet to see a device on Verizon that is open (no locked bootloader) and still gets decent GPS/reception. And I like using microSD cards, so I didn't go with the nexus.
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Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
Happy hunting.
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Locked bootloader has a lot to do with it...
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Dakota0206 said:
Something else you may want to consider is support behind the phone.
I have noticed the Razr threads become less and less active. Take a second and just scroll through the Nexus forums, then the Razr. The difference is night and day. The Razr forum is surprisingly sparse. This may be the work of an OCD Mod or just a lethargic user base. Its not a bad thing as long as any help you need will be there when you need it. Just worth taking under consideration.
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Even tho I like the razr and I kinda consider it over the nexus simply cause i dnt flash as much as most people. You 100% right about the threads. There is alot more goin on in the nexus threads then the razr. But i have got some pretty good help with the questions I asked in the razr threads.
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please go for Razr Maxx.
It is just a Razr, but with much better battery life.
1.1 mm thinker, seriously guys, who the fxxk cares that 1.1 mm? Your phone case will add at least 4.4mm!
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This is true.
That's be honest here. The phone is 4 months old. There is already a replacement. The dev's are all but gone. Don't get me wrong I am not taking a jab at any of our extremely talented dev's we have here, but lets face facts. Moto will NEVER unlock their bootloaders. They have no financial incentive to do so. HTC and Sammy listens to their customers. Moto, most of them will be out of a job in 6 months so so pretty much they could care less. Call me pessimistic, but I think this will just be a phone left in the dust. I tried the Nexus and it is crap hardware wise compared to the Razr, that is what is killing me. Sorry for this rant, but I know I can't be the only one feeling this way.
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That's be honest here. The phone is 4 months old. There is already a replacement. The dev's are all but gone. Don't get me wrong I am not taking a jab at any of our extremely talented dev's we have here, but lets face facts. Moto will NEVER unlock their bootloaders. They have no financial incentive to do so. HTC and Sammy listens to their customers. Moto, most of them will be out of a job in 6 months so so pretty much they could care less. Call me pessimistic, but I think this will just be a phone left in the dust. I tried the Nexus and it is crap hardware wise compared to the Razr, that is what is killing me. Sorry for this rant, but I know I can't be the only one feeling this way.
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This is the same thing that happened to the atrix, well there quite a lot of activity there but can't really do much coz of a locked tegra. And motor work realese the source for it and the phone is almost a year old.
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That's be honest here. The phone is 4 months old. There is already a replacement. The dev's are all but gone. Don't get me wrong I am not taking a jab at any of our extremely talented dev's we have here, but lets face facts. Moto will NEVER unlock their bootloaders. They have no financial incentive to do so. HTC and Sammy listens to their customers. Moto, most of them will be out of a job in 6 months so so pretty much they could care less. Call me pessimistic, but I think this will just be a phone left in the dust. I tried the Nexus and it is crap hardware wise compared to the Razr, that is what is killing me. Sorry for this rant, but I know I can't be the only one feeling this way.
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thanks buddy......
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thanks buddy......
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My sentiments exactly. The same devs that had faith in this device are still here, they haven't gone anywhere. They have actually been working harder than ever.
I will admit though, other than a couple of key threads the RAZR forum has started to bore me. It certainly doesn't have the liveliness that say the Nexus forum does.
Moto stated with ICS we would see the bootloader unlocked, lets at least wait till then and see if it happens. If it doesn't, then I guess we will do whatever it is we need to do.
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Beyond the battery the RAZR MAXX hardware appears to be identical... a new marketing push for the MAXX might actually stimulate more interest in the original RAZR. Especially outside the USA where LTE is not an issue draining batteries.
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Beyond the battery the RAZR MAXX hardware appears to be identical... a new marketing push for the MAXX might actually stimulate more interest in the original RAZR. Especially outside the USA where LTE is not an issue draining batteries.
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My feelings exactly.
I hear you OP. I share the same thoughts with you. But I don't think an locked boot loader should cause any stop in dev. Not every one is flashing their phone on a daily basis. Not every one is changing their kernel like changing clothes.
In SDK there is library for Razr and I am writing apps specifically for my Razr. We can do hell lots of stuff here even.
There is hope and a mediocre dev like me. Haha. Lets be more constructive and at least help and promote apps dev on this phone.
If anyone here are writing for Razr and better than me (almost every dev) pls lets connect and let me learn from y'all.
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That's be honest here. The phone is 4 months old. There is already a replacement. The dev's are all but gone. Don't get me wrong I am not taking a jab at any of our extremely talented dev's we have here, but lets face facts. Moto will NEVER unlock their bootloaders. They have no financial incentive to do so. HTC and Sammy listens to their customers. Moto, most of them will be out of a job in 6 months so so pretty much they could care less. Call me pessimistic, but I think this will just be a phone left in the dust. I tried the Nexus and it is crap hardware wise compared to the Razr, that is what is killing me. Sorry for this rant, but I know I can't be the only one feeling this way.
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You don't know what you are talking about.
1 - The replacement is the SAME PHONE. It just has a bigger battery.
2 - You can root the phone, there's init.d available, and there are several basic roms out there. You should have never bought this phone if mod'ing is so important to you.
There's a lot of activity at droidrzr.com, and once ICS hits there will be a lot of good stuff out there. For many reasons, this is the best phone I've had. It would be great to have an unlocked bootloader, but for what I need the phone to do I could care less.
Motorola is working on the ICS port to the RAZR. They've already ported to the Xoom tablet. They will release the RAZR port eventually, having learned much from their earlier work and the problems being experienced with the early releases of ICS on the Galaxy Nexis. I believe it is in their interest to produce a port that enhances their flagship phone.
Meanwhile, the Devs seem stuck because of the locked bootloader on the RAZR. So maybe instead of trying to develop workarounds, their time is better spent working with ICS on the Nexis. Then when the Moto port for the RAZR arrives, the Devs can return their attention to the RAZR, having learned a lot from the Nexis, and perhaps having less work to do overall to create killer ROMs for the RAZR given the new platform. An unlocked bootloader on RAZR ICS would be ICSing on the cake.
Hi. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but what the heck. I've owned an HTC Incredible for almost 24 months and this past Saturday I dropped it glass first onto the concrete. Needless to say, I have an x2 UPS should be dropping off at my house today. I'm looking forward to the larger screen and dual core CPU.
After browsing the developer forums, I am disappointed how little ROM selection there is. I read this is because Motorola locks down their system. I had the choice of an Incredible 2 or this. I chose this, so I hope I won't be disappointed.
About me: I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, so I hope to help test out ROMs as much as possible after I root. Which shouldn't take too long to talk myself into it . I'm more of a lurker than a poster. That's all for now.
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Hi. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but what the heck. I've owned an HTC Incredible for almost 24 months and this past Saturday I dropped it glass first onto the concrete. Needless to say, I have an x2 UPS should be dropping off at my house today. I'm looking forward to the larger screen and dual core CPU.
After browsing the developer forums, I am disappointed how little ROM selection there is. I read this is because Motorola locks down their system. I had the choice of an Incredible 2 or this. I chose this, so I hope I won't be disappointed.
About me: I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, so I hope to help test out ROMs as much as possible after I root. Which shouldn't take too long to talk myself into it . I'm more of a lurker than a poster. That's all for now.
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Welcome. Since you are coming from an HTC phone, you may get a little frustrated with how much you cant do on a Motorola phone. BUT, we do have awesome developers who make awesome ROMs for our phones. I suggest Eclipse or CM7. And I would forget how you used a rooted HTC and learn from scratch with your DX2. For instance, if you have used ROM manager or anything similar, don't use it with your DX2. A lot of people mess up there phones with that. We dont use ClockworkMod Recovery, but an alternative called Bootstrap Recovery. Since our phones are locked down, we have to be tethered to a wall charger to use this. No flashing on the go for us. And ICS is a ways away from getting onto our phones. Just a few things we have to deal with. Its still a nice phone.
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Hi. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but what the heck. I've owned an HTC Incredible for almost 24 months and this past Saturday I dropped it glass first onto the concrete. Needless to say, I have an x2 UPS should be dropping off at my house today. I'm looking forward to the larger screen and dual core CPU.
After browsing the developer forums, I am disappointed how little ROM selection there is. I read this is because Motorola locks down their system. I had the choice of an Incredible 2 or this. I chose this, so I hope I won't be disappointed.
About me: I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, so I hope to help test out ROMs as much as possible after I root. Which shouldn't take too long to talk myself into it . I'm more of a lurker than a poster. That's all for now.
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Though stuff is bleak now and people like me recently moved to other phones like the nexus or dinc2 or resound, still dragonzkiller is working on CM9 and that should immensely help this device. Right now 2 of the best ROMs are CM7 and eclipse, which is a huge complement to eclipse as it is based on blur....
Oh crap, btw pray to god that your phone does NOT have 2.3.5 OTA on it. If so, you cannot root it. Yet.
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With it being more difficult to flash, maybe I'll have a more operable phone lol. On a more serious note, after reading that HTC is releasing ICS for the Incredible 2 I am somewhat disappointed for not choosing it. I'm happy to try a Motorola phone again thought and will enjoy the 0.3" larger screen, my main reason for talking insurance into giving me this phone. Anyways, thanks for the information, it will come in handy on down the road.
Sad to hear there's only 2 main ROMs people use. I'm crossing my fingers for having 2.3.4 .
It probably will have 235 http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-x2-hacks/205470-bummer-full-2-3-5-1-3-418-root-broken.html
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It probably will have 235 http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-x2-hacks/205470-bummer-full-2-3-5-1-3-418-root-broken.html
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That sucks. Damn Motorola.
Welcome to the X2 commnuity
To be brutally honest, I believe the incredible 2 has a much higher satisfaction rate compared to the X2. *cough cough* that's why I was going to get the Inc2 until I saw Rezound at a reasonable price
But as said, there are some developers that make X2 quaint =)
I SWEAR TO GOD if the ota breaks root I'm leaving this crap phone.... omg I'm effn pissed!!! Hopefully there was a mistake somewhere... read the link above guys.. and be ready to scream at someone.
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I SWEAR TO GOD if the ota breaks root I'm leaving this crap phone.... omg I'm effn pissed!!! Hopefully there was a mistake somewhere... read the link above guys.. and be ready to scream at someone.
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I thought someone in this thread said it but I guess not. I read someone saying Eclipse is modified to block OTA updates. Thats a relief on my part since thats what I'm using.
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I thought someone in this thread said it but I guess not. I read someone saying Eclipse is modified to block OTA updates. Thats a relief on my part since thats what I'm using.
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As far as I know/remember, all ROMs block OTAs. CM7 does too...
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As far as I know/remember, all ROMs block OTAs. CM7 does too...
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Well thats good news.
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To be brutally honest, I believe the incredible 2 has a much higher satisfaction rate compared to the X2.
But as said, there are some developers that make X2 quaint =)
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The Incredible 2 didn't even pop in my mind to be honest.
My phone has 2.3.4, let the fun begin . The phone seems pretty quick so far, except when unlocking. Does the snappiness end over time like I've heard?
I've had both, dinc2 is far better.
no offense to dx2 devs though. Dzk, nitro and company are the best.
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I hate to hear that. How were you able to trade up to an Inc2?
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The Incredible 2 didn't even pop in my mind to be honest.
My phone has 2.3.4, let the fun begin . The phone seems pretty quick so far, except when unlocking. Does the snappiness end over time like I've heard?
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Yes. Yes, it does end. Anyway, the good news is you are on 2.3.4 and thereby been spared by the tyranny of Moto, but by just. Your best bet is CM7/Eclipse and soon CM9... Just don't ask for ETAs, else you'll suffer the wrath of the Dragon!
And don't dare update to 2.3.5. In fact, just root that damn thing and install CM7/Eclipse to avoid being nagged by the phone to update, when the damned update does arrive.. Enjoy (I can't say that with a straight face, sigh) your device as much as possible. And I hope I and others didn't rain on your parade too much. Have fun with the X2...
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I hate to hear that. How were you able to trade up to an Inc2?
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Here is how I did it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586153. This other forum was what led up to it.
If you have bloat freezer or titanium back up you can stop the ota update.
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If you ... titanium back up you can stop the ota update.
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That's good news, I can't live without Titanium Backup.
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And I hope I and others didn't rain on your parade too much. Have fun with the X2...
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If by rain on my parade you mean make me regret getting this phone... . I do enjoy the slightly larger screen and resolution so that's trade off enough for me. But if it does end up like the post you linked, dinc2 here I come.
After not even having the phone activated for 24 hours I'm having trouble. It's the infamous sdcard music playback skipping I've read about . This happens intermittently, sometimes few skips sometimes many. Called Asurion, they told me to take the battery out and hold power down for 15 seconds. We'll see how it does at work tomorrow.
Edit: This happens with the phone idol running PowerAMP with music from 128 KBPS all the way to 2580KBPS. It gets worse downloading updates on 3G.
Youll never completely get rid of that, and its not the sdcard it dies it on internal as well, im looking into new samsung phones, done with motorola soon as I find what i want. Without nitro, dkz, and the rest of our gang i would have been gone months ago. But cm7 and eclipse are both amazing compared to what this was out of the box
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If you go into power amp setings and find the buffering option and select the largest one it may help the skipping. I came from the original droidx and i was expecting a better phone but turned out to be worse. I am just glad that we have any devs working on this phone! they have done alot for it.