I was thinking of upgrading from my iPhone 4S to the Galaxy Note but had a concern:
Since ATT hasn't deployed LTE almost anywhere yet, is the Galaxy Note's battery life going to be destroyed by the phone constantly searching for an LTE signal that isn't there in your area?
Also is there a way to turn off 4G LTE on the Galaxy Note when you don't want it on? I know on Verizon LTE devices you can but I didn't think there was any way to do it on an ATT phone...
I have a skyrocket and live in LTE but when I travel to an area without LTE my battery lasts longer than when I am in an LTE area so I would say no. That is my experience and my no means scientific proof, but I am pretty sure not being in a LTE area will not drain your battery faster.
The current phones that are LTE on AT&T, the Skyrocket, Vivid, Nitro HD, you cannot toggle off of LTE. Not saying the GNote will not be able to but I would guess not.
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I was thinking of upgrading from my iPhone 4S to the Galaxy Note but had a concern:
Since ATT hasn't deployed LTE almost anywhere yet, is the Galaxy Note's battery life going to be destroyed by the phone constantly searching for an LTE signal that isn't there in your area?
Also is there a way to turn off 4G LTE on the Galaxy Note when you don't want it on? I know on Verizon LTE devices you can but I didn't think there was any way to do it on an ATT phone...
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It only searches for lte a few times, also heard uses a little bit og gps satellites to tell where it is.
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OK I have searched and can't find an answer to a couple of questions.
I am coming from a rooted Epic 4G on Sprint. I am not familiar with unlocked gsm phones. I am switching to att because i am moving to an area with bad sprint coverage.
I was going to buy an Infuse, but it seems the Galaxy S II is better. I understand i can use the SII on att's network but i am unsure about a couple things.
1) will i be able to utilize their semi 4G data network? When they get 4G LTE, will i be able to use that?
2) what downside is there to going the S II route vs an Infuse other than $$? Looks to me like the SII is way better.
Anything else I need to consider?
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The international SGS2 phones you can buy today don't have LTE, so they won't work on the AT&T LTE network. They will, however, work on AT&T's HSPA+ network -- I regularly get about 4 Mbps, and have gotten as high as 7. You can use a regular 3G plan on the HSPA+ network; I have the old $30/month 3G smartphone unlimited data plan, and I haven't had any problems connecting to HSPA+ in places where it's available.
There is some speculation that the AT&T version of the SGS2 (called Attain) may have LTE support. Unfortunately, this phone isn't available yet, and as far as I know, no release date has been announced.
Thanks for the info. As a practical matter i shouldnt worry too much about LTE. I live in a rural area which just got 4G, but is very ulikely to upgrade to LTE anytime soon. I will probably want another phone by the time we see LTE here. Now i have to decide if i want to spend $450 more to get the SII over the Infuse. The SII has more RAM, dual core processor and higher res second camera (bfd). Im not sure what other improvements.
Any other advice or insight would be appreciated. Im sure gonna mis the hardware keyboard on my epic!
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Can someone shine some light onto this situation for me. I have a bell Gs2 and i heard they are releasing a lte (4g) network in toronto and that they are rereleasing the gs2. Does that mean i bought my gs2 and wont be able to take advantage of the lte capabilities?
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Yep, our phone has HSPA+ which Bell considers 4G along with their LTE network. Your phone doesn't have the LTE hardware, so yes, you are right. You will not be able to utilize LTE on your new phone....
Poor show by Bell there TBH man. At least here in the UK we know we are all being soiled on by the complete lack of 4G at the moment, over in Canada it must just be confusing as to which 4G platform your phone can...and can't, accept.
Thanks for your insight on this situation guys
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I don't think it matters TBH, Bell is charging a whole lot more for the LTE network so unless you are willing to pay you are not getting on it. Besides do you really need that fast of a connection (in a very limited geographical area) other than bragging rights?
The Galaxy S II is still a great phone. The LTE network will have only a small coverage area and a small number of devices supported at first. In 2 to 3 years LTE phones will be widely available and coverage will be up, that's when I'll jump on the LTE bandwagon.
Until then, HSPA+ @ up to 21Mbps is fine by me.
LTE at the moment is a huge battery drain, and real world speeds are not much better than hsdpa with enhanced backhall aka h+
It's a shame they are using 4G to describe h+, it's a huge marketing mess.
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So I came from the Samsung Skyrocket which was one of At&ts first LTE phones. So this phone being more current hardware you would expect for it to be able to attain better signal strength. And in my experience it does, places I only got 1 bar of lte I am now seeing two or three bars and also the connection is much more stable. So, I should be a happy camper right? Not quite.
Where I live in Los Angeles some places have great LTE speeds but others the HSPA+ network yields better network speeds. For Instance, at work I ussually get about 2 mbps down on LTE but 10 mbps down on HSPa+. I am preety much on the border of the LTE network and on the Skyrocket my phone would quickly fall back to the HSPa+ network. But with the Note Its signal is much more strongly connected to the LTE network and trying to watch youtube on a 1 to 2 mbps connection is a pain( the reason I left Sprint).
I hope in a future update we will have the option to toggle LTE on and off. But I doubt this since the skyrocket has been out for months and it still does not have a toggle swith.
Otherwise I love this phone
Just wondering why Sprint doesn't continue to use Wimax on devices like the E4GLTE? With GSM carriers they're incorporating 3g along with HSPA+ and rolling out LTE (AT&T), wich is great because between all 3 options you should be able to get some awesome data speeds pretty much all the time. Wouldn't it be great if you lived in a Wimax area with LTE you could fall back on one or the other depending on wich had a stronger signal. Im just wondering why Sprint is not going this route. With all of the reviews of the E4GLTE the one resounding fact is that there is currently no LTE anywhere and 3G speeds are horrid. It seems like keeping Wimax and using it when you can would have been a good option, at least temporarily. Any ideas?
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Just wondering why Sprint doesn't continue to use Wimax on devices like the E4GLTE? With GSM carriers they're incorporating 3g along with HSPA+ and rolling out LTE (AT&T), wich is great because between all 3 options you should be able to get some awesome data speeds pretty much all the time. Wouldn't it be great if you lived in a Wimax area with LTE you could fall back on one or the other depending on wich had a stronger signal. Im just wondering why Sprint is not going this route. With all of the reviews of the E4GLTE the one resounding fact is that there is currently no LTE anywhere and 3G speeds are horrid. It seems like keeping Wimax and using it when you can would have been a good option, at least temporarily. Any ideas?
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Well...umm...
1. Wimax requires a different radio. LTE is built into the CPU, so you'd have to have a separate chip for wimax.
2. Wimax sucks. Its only claim to fame is that it was the first 4G available. Building penetration is crap.
3. Having both in the phone would cause power drains like you wouldn't believe.
4. Sprint is shutting down Wimax to focus on LTE. I imagine the expense of keeping both running is pretty high.
Just sit back and be patient. LTE will be there soon enough. Or stick with your current wimax phone and wait until you have LTE to upgrade. If your main reason for the upgrade is LTE then you should reconsider your options.
Remember HD DVDs? and BluRay? Which one is still around?
Also, Plasma, DLP, LCD, LED technologies in TVs. Its a 'technology war' thing.
WiMax and LTE were two technologies like this. LTE won as BluRay did and to keep up, Sprint has to rebuild their network. Also, the reasons stated above in smw6180's post.
I actually could care less about which one I have as I'm on wifi most of the time. This was truly "Just a question". But isn't HSPA+ a dead technology but its still being included into GSM devices even the ones with LTE. Im just wondering why it is and Wimax isnt. And where I'm at Wimax is awesome I get anywhere from 4-8mbs when im on it.
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HSPA+ isn't dead at all. The rest of the world uses it. Try a T-Mobile or At&t phone on HSPA+ 42.
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I most certainly would love to. I hope the International GS3 has HSPA+ and I can get it unlocked and use it on T-mobile. I miss GSM but dont really care much for ATT and I read somewhere T-Mobile is revamping there prepaid data plans, so hopefully I will get to try it out.
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HSPA+ isn't dead at all. The rest of the world uses it. Try a T-Mobile or At&t phone on HSPA+ 42.
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smw6180 said:
Well...umm...
1. Wimax requires a different radio. LTE is built into the CPU, so you'd have to have a separate chip for wimax.
2. Wimax sucks. Its only claim to fame is that it was the first 4G available. Building penetration is crap.
3. Having both in the phone would cause power drains like you wouldn't believe.
4. Sprint is shutting down Wimax to focus on LTE. I imagine the expense of keeping both running is pretty high.
Just sit back and be patient. LTE will be there soon enough. Or stick with your current wimax phone and wait until you have LTE to upgrade. If your main reason for the upgrade is LTE then you should reconsider your options.
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Totally agree, and number "2" is definitely a must for me I have tested it here and wimax well you said it, and more now is adding both radio and battery on-board will give a A+ with power as well
dhoshman said:
Just wondering why Sprint doesn't continue to use Wimax on devices like the E4GLTE? With GSM carriers they're incorporating 3g along with HSPA+ and rolling out LTE (AT&T), wich is great because between all 3 options you should be able to get some awesome data speeds pretty much all the time. Wouldn't it be great if you lived in a Wimax area with LTE you could fall back on one or the other depending on wich had a stronger signal. Im just wondering why Sprint is not going this route. With all of the reviews of the E4GLTE the one resounding fact is that there is currently no LTE anywhere and 3G speeds are horrid. It seems like keeping Wimax and using it when you can would have been a good option, at least temporarily. Any ideas?
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GSM carriers include 3g, HSPA+, and LTE because HSPA+ is an extension to 3G, using the same radio. Therefore there are still only two radios in the device: WCDMA (which is 3G with HSPA+) and LTE. Sprint's doing the same thing - their equivalent is having 1xAdvanced, EVDO rev B, and LTE.
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GSM carriers include 3g, HSPA+, and LTE because HSPA+ is an extension to 3G, using the same radio. Therefore there are still only two radios in the device: WCDMA (which is 3G with HSPA+) and LTE. Sprint's doing the same thing - their equivalent is having 1xAdvanced, EVDO rev B, and LTE.
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Great answer my friend. I completely understand now. I didn't know what 1x advanced and EVDO rev B were before. Now are any of those capable of the speeds HSPA+ is though?
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dhoshman said:
Great answer my friend. I completely understand now. I didn't know what 1x advanced and EVDO rev B were before. Now are any of those capable of the speeds HSPA+ is though?
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No, HSPA is in its own class of speed, CDMA doesn't have anything close to it. And it's not like sprint's network could handle much anyway, since there's plenty of dirtbags abusing the Unlimited service.
So im ready to upgrade my phones on Tmobile and I read that the SGS 3 does not support LTE on Tmobiles network. Is this a deal breaker? Ive read that LTE is a battery vampire. Tmobile LTE network isnt due till next year. I plan on keeping the SGS 3 for 2 years, hoping it would be a bit of future proofing for me since its the hottest phone right now.
Is no LTE support a deal breaker?
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So im ready to upgrade my phones on Tmobile and I read that the SGS 3 does not support LTE on Tmobiles network. Is this a deal breaker? Ive read that LTE is a battery vampire. Tmobile LTE network isnt due till next year. I plan on keeping the SGS 3 for 2 years, hoping it would be a bit of future proofing for me since its the hottest phone right now.
Is no LTE support a deal breaker?
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It's up to you, if LTE speed (constant 15Mbps+) is necessary for you then get an LTE S3 like ATT. If 3-7Mbps speed is enough, then get an HSPA+ only S3 like T-Mo.
However, the T-Mo S3 has 42Mbps+ radio, so if you a near a T-Mo tower, you can potentially get 10-20Mbps download speed.
You might better off ask this at the T-Mobile S3 section.
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It's up to you, if LTE speed (constant 15Mbps+) is necessary for you then get an LTE S3 like ATT. If 3-7Mbps speed is enough, then get an HSPA+ only S3 like T-Mo.
However, the T-Mo S3 has 42Mbps+ radio, so if you a near a T-Mo tower, you can potentially get 10-20Mbps download speed.
You might better off ask this at the T-Mobile S3 section.
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Thanks for the reply. I didnt know there was a section for Tmo on XDA. I did a search awhile back for it and didnt find it. Now I see one.