Hey guys I found this mhl adapter on monoprice and it's $10.20. By far one of the cheapest out there. Also monoprice has great build quality on their products! Here's the product link http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2, and here's their video on it! They use it on our evo 3d's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P5tJl_a_wcc
Yep - that's already been discussed many times under the MHL adapter threads. There have been many reviews about that particular adapter - including mine.
Honestly - I have no complaints about my MHL adapter.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Yep - that's already been discussed many times under the MHL adapter threads. There have been many reviews about that particular adapter - including mine.
Honestly - I have no complaints about my MHL adapter.
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Really!? I've never seen it haha thanks! Do you like it?
I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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Awesome i'll probably order mine from monoprice just cause I've gotten such great products from them.
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Hey guys I found this mhl adapter on monoprice and it's $10.20. By far one of the cheapest out there. Also monoprice has great build quality on their products! Here's the product link http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2, and here's their video on it! They use it on our evo 3d's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P5tJl_a_wcc
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I bought it when it went on sale a couple weeks ago for something like 9 bucks shipped. I wouldn't recommend it. The battery drains even when plugged in (which has to be plugged in to work). If you read the reviews monoprice actually responded that it only can input of 500mA which is only half of what the stock charger puts out but standard for USB ports on a PC. Don't know if its an MHL flaw or a monoprice adapter flaw but a 720p movie with the phone in airplane mode still managed to drain the battery in under 2 hours. You also can't manually change resolution although that's a limitation on the phone. This really isn't a problem as it defaults to 720p for most TVs but I did have it go to a really low resolution in a monitor.
Don't blame the monoprice adapter, that's a weakness with all mhl adapters. There was a guy who claimed his was charging, but checking the system settings showed he was limited to USB charging and not AC.
The key is not having other apps running or services you don't need. On an airplane, you should have gotten a much better discharge rate! The last time I used mine at a friends house to watch a 720p MKV, I had over 90% of my battery left. I figured I could have watched over 10 hours of video. If you're streaming, you will burn more battery obviously.
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Don't blame the monoprice adapter, that's a weakness with all mhl adapters. There was a guy who claimed his was charging, but checking the system settings showed he was limited to USB charging and not AC.
The key is not having other apps running or services you don't need. On an airplane, you should have gotten a much better discharge rate! The last time I used mine at a friends house to watch a 720p MKV, I had over 90% of my battery left. I figured I could have watched over 10 hours of video. If you're streaming, you will burn more battery obviously.
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That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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Yeah, buy you had two connections into your phone with the OG Evo. The MHL adaptor will eventually (when tv's come with it) only need the HDMI cable and hopefully charge more than the USB does.
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Yeah, buy you had two connections into your phone with the OG Evo. The MHL adaptor will eventually (when tv's come with it) only need the HDMI cable and hopefully charge more than the USB does.
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Didn't think they would.wrap it into a TV but if 500mA is an MHL limitation then it really wouldn't make a difference since the stock charger already outputs more than that and what the adaptot itself consumes.
Nice find! I was looking on Amazon for an MHL adapter, but glad I checked here before purchasing one.
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That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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Can you point me to any 1 AMP advertised MHL adapters?
Even if they work for other phones, this phone's funny. I have quite a few 2.1A chargers, both car and AC - and not all of them charge beyond USB charging rate. It seems one or two of the micro usb pins need to be shorted to charge our phone at a rate higher than 0.5A.
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I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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I just got this EBAY adapter - and I haven't had a chance to fully test it. It wouldn't work for HDMI out - so I thought it was defective, but I realized I haven't used MHL since I rooted my phone (olympus rom). I used my monoprice adapter and also wasn't able to get it to work, though it ran very well when the phone was stock. So I'll wait to review until I flash a new rom that actally lets me use the MHL adapter properly.
One thing that shows promise is that when I charge through the EBAY $6 MHL adapter, it shows up as AC charging on my phone. The monoprice shows up as USB charging. I've also confirmed that it definitely charges faster.
I'll still have to test whether or not it actually works - and if it'll actually charge faster IN USE. I'll let you guys know. If it does work and charge faster than the mono price adapter, I'll post here and start a new thread. Otherwise, I'll report back and apologize.
I updated to a kernel which allowed HDMI out and tested the new HDMI adapter. Visually, back to back with the monoprice adapter - the EBAY $6 adapter worked just as good. That is to say that the picture looked idetically sharp.
I then played a 42 minute 720P MKV through diceplayer - and my phone's charge increased from 66% to 70%. It's the first time I've seen that with an MHL adapter.
With this new kernel (Anthrax R13) - this MHL adapter now shows charging my phone as being via USB instead of AC. But next, I plan to play an identical video with the monoprice adapter - to see if my charge level increases or drains in use.
I'll start a new thread when I have the results, but regardless, at $6 - this EBAY cheapie has to be the best value yet.
Are there any other kernel/rom options that would support hdmi out to tv? Thanks
One thing you might want to consider if using this with the HTC dock, is that the Monoprice adapter won't fit well. You have to force the micro usb in. To use it in the dock, you need a micro usb adapter that has the micro end with a less bulky plastic enclosure. The curved side of the tip needs to be closer to the plastic edge. The adapter I got from eBay fits better, without forcing or bending. You could also try carving away excess material.
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I'll start a new thread when I have the results, but regardless, at $6 - this EBAY cheapie has to be the best value yet.
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I've got a 10£ ebay special and lovin it no probs.
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When using the MHL adapter, is the whole screen mirrored or is it just some apps like gallery/youtube?
Also, does Cyanogenmod (AOSP) work with it?
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When using the MHL adapter, is the whole screen mirrored or is it just some apps like gallery/youtube?
Also, does Cyanogenmod (AOSP) work with it?
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It is full mirroring of the whole screen great huh? I found that out here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXotbjcB6xA
And as far as I know Cyanogenmod does not have it yet but i'm really sure it will soon.
Yup, it does full mirroring, so you can play games as well
The bad part is that i got the ikross mhl adapter and it seems to be defective or smth, cause it keeps disconnecting for no apparent reason (even if i don't touch it).
My question is which mhl adapter is worth buying? I'd really like one i could use while moving the phone. Should i just go with the original one from htc? but that's a bit expensive. Any suggestions?
I have the T-Mobile brand and have no issues with it. It's been carried around in my laptop bag for a while, still works perfect. $20 from the store and around $27 shipped if you order from their site
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Which adapter charges as well?
All of them should, that's their design. Mhl plugs in to the phone, charger and hdmi plug in to the mhl. I know that atleast the T-Mobile version does, all should though. It mirrors everything, and charges my phone just fine at the same time.
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Got my MHL for $15.73 shipped from Monoprice. Been using it everyday since the day I got it to stream netflix and other TV/movie sites from my 3D or off one of the flyers in my house. It's probably been in use for 60+ days straight for about 5-6 hours each day, maybe more... I don't have cable or satellite I'm actually thinking of ordering another one maybe two just in case this one breaks or gets lost.
The monoprice adapter works very well. I've had no connection problems - and I get a great picture depending on the app. Diceplayer works particularly well for putting out HD video.
The only possible drawback is that the monoprice adapter limits you to USB charging, not AC charging - when you use it. So if you're streaming while outputting to the TV, you'll still lose a small amount of phone battery.
On another thread specifically on the MHL adapter charging topic - no one confirmed whether the other chargers were registering AC charging or not. That might be the one advantage in getting another brand.
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The monoprice adapter works very well. I've had no connection problems - and I get a great picture depending on the app. Diceplayer works particularly well for putting out HD video.
The only possible drawback is that the monoprice adapter limits you to USB charging, not AC charging - when you use it. So if you're streaming while outputting to the TV, you'll still lose a small amount of phone battery.
On another thread specifically on the MHL adapter charging topic - no one confirmed whether the other chargers were registering AC charging or not. That might be the one advantage in getting another brand.
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I will test my T-Mobile MHL adaptor tonight to verify that it is ac charging. I do know that I gain battery life when streaming though, so I assume it is
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I will test my T-Mobile MHL adaptor tonight to verify that it is ac charging. I do know that I gain battery life when streaming though, so I assume it is
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Thanks - please do. People in the other thread assumed their phone was charging whether streaming or not - but couldn't confirm with testing values. I thought my phone was charging as well - until I installed a battery monitor and checked. After using many - Battery Monitor Widget appears to work the best on our phone.
If you could test your MHL adapter while streaming, and report back the charging rate reported - that would be a great help. Please report what radios you have on, I usually leave all of them on for testing purposes.
I'm very interested to see if any of these MHL adapters will charge while streaming, as well. I plan on this being my next accessory for the 3D but I don't want to get one that charges with half power.
Forgot to test out the other night. I'll try an get to it tonight before going to bed. Oh, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro. Saw some one mentioning that app earlier, so you'll be able to relate fully. For radios, Wifi and Mobile Network are never turned off on my phone. That's how I'll be testing as I never have Bluetooth on when steaming movies, and only have GPS on when I'm using Navigation or an app that needs GPS. Obviously won't need GPS to stream a movie in my house...
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got Monoprice MHL to charge last night while streaming
Took quite a bit of tinkering, but finally got positive charging (albeit not much) while streaming Battle of Midway from Netflix and the Wire from HBO GO last night. Using WTSB 1.9 rom and Monoprice MHL adapter.
What I had to do was:
-Airplane Mode;
-Turn on Wifi;
-Turn off account sync;
-Taskmanager to kill off everything but netflix;
-Use SetCPU to underclock to (648ishMHZ for netflix) or (900ishMHZ for HBO GO);
-Covedesign app to turn off button backlights;
-Covedesign app to go to backlight "blink" and disabled blink (like jumping rope) just at the right time for the backlight to stay off (may have to do this several times)(though this makes it damn hard to interact with phone unless you have bt mouse or keyboard - if not, may just want to turn brightness down as far as you can get);
My setup:
Evo3d streaming via wifi from iSpot 4G Clear device, outputting via MHL to optoma pk201 pico projector, with stock charger+usb, and audio via MHL/HDMI to pico projector.
Comment:
Netflix ROCKS (wonder why no stock landscape UI though)!!! Great streaming, no hiccups; HBO GO, on the other hand, (while AMAZING selection) constantly drops out to "Audio only stream, connect to stronger network or wifi for video", stutters, ... all kinds of crap and this is on a pretty regular 6mbps 4G Clear iSpot!
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BTW, anyone know of an app that lets you monitor your total mA usage live?
like a graphing app or anything?
There used to be a great one for WM6 that showed, for example 400milliamps with screen on, and 200milliamps with screen off and graphed it over time.
I keep getting pissed off with these phones; can anyone help me (I've been searching for years and can't find answers) mind you, I'm coming from the x51v wm6.5.3; PalmTX; Sammy Omnia...
-Why can't we turn off the backlight to the screen?
-Why can't we MANUALLY rotate to landscape or portrait? (I know you can manually engage or disengage the AUTOmatic rotation feature)
-(maybe this does exist) Why can't we get readings on how many mA we are using?
It just seems like the x51v from 2002 was so much more advanced and customizable, seems like we are re-creating the wheel over and over again.
Sorry for the rant.
Battery Monitor Widget, as mentioned in the post previous to yours...
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Thanks - please do. People in the other thread assumed their phone was charging whether streaming or not - but couldn't confirm with testing values. I thought my phone was charging as well - until I installed a battery monitor and checked. After using many - Battery Monitor Widget appears to work the best on our phone.
If you could test your MHL adapter while streaming, and report back the charging rate reported - that would be a great help. Please report what radios you have on, I usually leave all of them on for testing purposes.
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My MHL adapter mirrors everything and charges directly from the wall.
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My MHL adapter mirrors everything and charges directly from the wall.
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Ummm... Thanks? You provided exactly zero new information.
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Ummm... Thanks? You provided exactly zero new information.
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Except...I did. For this person:
bagelicious said:
I'm very interested to see if any of these MHL adapters will charge while streaming, as well. I plan on this being my next accessory for the 3D but I don't want to get one that charges with half power.
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MHL Adapters are required to charge while being used, in fact, they only function if the charger is plugged in. That's part the spec, and I'd like to think I know quite a bit about MHL since I've done work and testing on the product for the company that created it, which is Silicon Image : http://www.siliconimage.com/products/family.aspx?id=10 . As for the quoted person, the adapter is not supposed to the the problem (unless you're getting a cheap knockoff one) but the power output of your charger can be an issue as well. The original Evo 3D charger outputs the proper power for the adapter to charge your phone properly. If you're using a cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord, it will most likely not charge at the same output.
I've been using and testing these adapters before you ever knew about them. Is that enough information for you?
Went to a friends after work an just got home a little while ago. Battery is at 15% so instead of putting in a freshly charged battery, I'm going to test my T-Mobile MHL Adaptor for those interested. Hope to post results tonight, definitely going to test tonight though even if results aren't posted until the morning.
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@LiquidSolstice What the heck's a "cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord"? Did you mean microUSB? So much for your expertise... Dunno what you're going on about, but the MHL adapters could very well affect the current fed to the phone since it's literally going THRU them. Have you tested every single MHL adapter? Even if there's a spec they should conform to, it doesn't mean they all do, just like all chargers out there are not 1A chargers with properly shorted pins to deliver 1A.
The concerns you quoted and dismissed were valid, no need for that attitude. The USB cable used shouldn't really matter in the vast majority of cases, resistances introduced by even the thinnest retractable cables are pretty much negligible... I've actually tested that too. It really comes down to the charger, and possibly the MHL adapter that's in between. If mike hasn't posted his results with the T-Mo adapter tomorrow I'll test mine as I have the same one. Can't speak for the MP adapter as I don't have it, MP usually sells quality cables & adapters tho.
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@LiquidSolstice What the heck's a "cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord"? Did you mean microUSB? So much for your expertise... Dunno what you're going on about, but the MHL adapters could very well affect the current fed to the phone since it's literally going THRU them. Have you tested every single MHL adapter? Even if there's a spec they should conform to, it doesn't mean they all do, just like all chargers out there are not 1A chargers with properly shorted pins to deliver 1A.
The concerns you quoted were valid, no need for that attitude. If mike hasn't posted his results with the T-Mo adapter tomorrow I'll test mine as I have the same one. Can't speak for the MP adapter as I don't have it, MP usually sells quality cables & adapters tho.
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So much for my expertise? Tell you what. Remove the MHL adapter out of the question. Try to charge the phone using a Samsung Moment power cord. It's all MicroUSB as you say.
It won't properly charge. Just because a power cord has a plug on one end a MicroUSB on another doesn't mean they're all equal. The point that I'm responding to is that unless you're buying a knockoff MHL adapter (or a really, really cheap one) the spec specifies that they all charge from both USB and AC, and that there is enough power to properly charge the device.
Hey guys.
Long time G1/G2 user here...just cashed in on the Valentines Deal from T-Mobile and picked up the Amaze.
The associate @ the store here in Wilmington informed me that the Amaze has video out via micro HDMI...and same battery charger as the G2...?
My G2 charger seemed to work in the car, but after opening the one that came with the phone when i got home, I saw it looked a little different.
This was after I was all excited to hook up the phone to my Vizio LCD tv via a micro hdmi cable from newegg, but it didn't seem to want to fit properly. Is there a special cable I need or adapter require to hook up to a TV?
Thanks
You need a mhl adaptor
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As stated, you need an mhl adapter for hdmi output.
As for the charger, it's a proprietary port on the phone, but it will also work with a traditional microusb cable.
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Anyone have any first-hand experience using a proper MHL adapter for the Amaze? I'm very interested in buying one but have seen mixed reviews from this one: http://www.amazon.com/iKross-Jetstre.../dp/B005JZX5LC
I've seen other results on Google but no one really comments on having tested it with their Amaze. I've read reports of people using the HTC MHL adapter on their Evo 3D, saying the video looked pixelated. Has anyone found or used an adapter that worked well?
you can be the guinnea pig.
Hehehe, I'm hoping other guinea pigs who have tested will share!
Thank you guys for responding....appreciate it
I have used an MHL adapter
The one I have is from Tmobile. It works, but I just don't see the practicality of it. I used to have the G2X that required that micro HDMI to HDMI. That just required one cable. This time with the MHL adapter you need to not only have to have the MHL adapter, but you also need a normal HDMI cable and a MicroUSB plug to power the device. Without either you wont get any picture. It works like normal and honestly I don't see any difference between the picture of the Amaze with their MHL adapter and the picture of the G2X with their microHDMI. It works great, but the only set back now is the amount of cables needed for this feature now.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the adapter. Could you comment on the picture quality? Does a 1080p movie look 1080p on the TV?
Based on threads here and elsewhere, I found the HTC AC-M500 12-pin adapter (the correct one according to HTC), featuring their proprietary ExtMicro USB plug. I'd tried a generic 5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter from Overstock.com, and sometimes it would work, sometimes not. (I later determined that this was probably the fault of the Dell 24" monitor I have at work.)
There are 7 extra pins in the connector that I frankly don't know if they do anything; in prior threads someone identified them as supporting composite video (yes you read that correctly), stereo audio and a MIC. But the plug fits great, and on a Samsung 27" LED HDTV, the video looks as crisp as you'd expect. Is it worth $30+? Depends upon how often you want to use it. I hope to do presentations and playback with it.
If you want some detailed pics, look to my images posted to WikiCommons.
My user page on WikiMedia (click "user contributions")
(I've also got pics in the Amazon product page's gallery.)
WikusVanDeMerwe said:
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the adapter. Could you comment on the picture quality? Does a 1080p movie look 1080p on the TV?
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I'm not sure if it's the player of the Amaze that makes it less appealing or if I just encoded it wrong or if it's the limitations of the picture transfer itself, but it doesn't look "perfect" so to speak. Sometimes there's even a little audio delay that for some reason is more visible on the TV than it is on the phone. It still looks good and I imagine that if the right settings for video encoding come out it will look great, but don't expect BluRay quality from the phone.
I found that my Amaze has trouble playing 1080p without a stutter ... but it does that on the device as well as the external display. I guess those of us who want to do this regularly need to upgrade to the Edge/Endeavor this summer.
The MHL cable I had for my Sensation 4G works for the Amaze, I tried it out last night it worked with no problem.
Important question, when using a typical 5 pin MHL adapter, does the phone transmit audio over HDMI as well?
Along with that, if not, does the 12 pin adapter transmit audio? Thanks guys.
ChromeJob said:
I found that my Amaze has trouble playing 1080p without a stutter ... but it does that on the device as well as the external display. I guess those of us who want to do this regularly need to upgrade to the Edge/Endeavor this summer.
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Important question, when using a typical 5 pin MHL adapter, does the phone transmit audio over HDMI as well?
Along with that, if not, does the 12 pin adapter transmit audio? Thanks guys.
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Yes. And yes.
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mmmmm Endeavor, nom nom nom....
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You mean the HTC One....
Does anyone know if the MHL adapter supports keyboard/mouse/monitor? If not, is there a dock or adapter that does?
Check Wikipedia for references on MHL ... my reading was that it was just mobile high-definition link ... that is, a way of getting hi-def video and audio OUT of the device, not networking IN some peripherals.
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The one I have is from Tmobile. It works, but I just don't see the practicality of it. I used to have the G2X that required that micro HDMI to HDMI. That just required one cable. This time with the MHL adapter you need to not only have to have the MHL adapter, but you also need a normal HDMI cable and a MicroUSB plug to power the device. Without either you wont get any picture. It works like normal and honestly I don't see any difference between the picture of the Amaze with their MHL adapter and the picture of the G2X with their microHDMI. It works great, but the only set back now is the amount of cables needed for this feature now.
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I agree. The HDMI connection on my G2x was a lot more simpler. One cord. I am considering being a guinea pig when I get my pay check in a week....
I purchased one of these from amazon.com it works perfectly, but I do agree, microHDMI port would def. be preferable to the extra cord + adapter...
Continuation of closed thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301895
Funny, that thread was the first suggestion in the "Here are similar threads we found:" dialog when I created this thread.
Anyways, my question is pertaining to the last couple posts in that thread. They were talking about the official HTC AC M500 12-pin MHL adapter. I know it's the official MHL adapter for the Amaze, but what I'm wondering is why I'd spring for that adapter, when for just a bit less, I can get the official HTC AC M490, which is the 5-pin version? Not only is it cheaper, but it'll work with any phone that has a standard 5-pin USB/MHL port.
If you've tried the 5pin then you know that it disconnects almost all the time. Plus the charging while plugged in doesn't work too well. I have the 12pin and I don't have to sit there with a steady hand while connected to the tv and don't have to worry about the battery discharging while watching a movie from my sdcard. I prefer quality over quantity.
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If you've tried the 5pin then you know that it disconnects almost all the time. Plus the charging while plugged in doesn't work too well. I have the 12pin and I don't have to sit there with a steady hand while connected to the tv and don't have to worry about the battery discharging while watching a movie from my sdcard. I prefer quality over quantity.
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Yeah, I haven't tried any of them. I guess I've not had any problems with standard 5-pin usb charges staying in place, but perhaps the MHL adapter causes more strain on the connector. If I get the 5-pin it'd also work for my girlfriend's evo3d.... choices
It will work if the EVO 3D uses mhl. Don't get me wrong the 5pin will work but you will start to get really frustrated if the plug or phone or table is slightly moved and you lose connection. Lol
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It will work if the EVO 3D uses mhl. Don't get me wrong the 5pin will work but you will start to get really frustrated if the plug or phone or table is slightly moved and you lose connection. Lol
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Yeah, the evo3d has MHL, but only the standard 5pin plug.
I use a 5 pin your right about the charging watched a movie plugged in the whole time batt was at %20 at the end. Wrong about the connection though you must of had a bad one. I can pick up the phone wiggle it around and never loose the picture.
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Continuation of closed thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301895
Funny, that thread was the first suggestion in the "Here are similar threads we found:" dialog when I created this thread.
Anyways, my question is pertaining to the last couple posts in that thread. They were talking about the official HTC AC M500 12-pin MHL adapter. I know it's the official MHL adapter for the Amaze, but what I'm wondering is why I'd spring for that adapter, when for just a bit less, I can get the official HTC AC M490, which is the 5-pin version? Not only is it cheaper, but it'll work with any phone that has a standard 5-pin USB/MHL port.
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What I have found out regarding which is the proper adapter, and you are correct it's the HTC AC500 12-pin Ext-USB to HDMI MHL adapter (its the same MHL adapter that the HTC Flyer tablet uses).The micro "Ext-USB" connection and the fact that its twelve pins instead of a 5 pin connector do indeed make a difference in terms of functionality, quality, and performance. Although, that not to say that other MHL adapters with 5-pin connectors like the HTC AC490 adapter won't work on the Amaze, cause they do in terms of displaying video on your TV. However, the 5-pin adapter wont charge the unit while its plugged in, even if you have an MHL adapter that has its own AC power source. According to HTC that is the case at least, and from reading other comments, I assume that HTC isnt bullshitting.
I was also told by the HTC rep via email, that when you use the HTC AC500 12-pin Ext-usb MHL adapter, it actually allows the Amaze 4G to open up or enable a feature where the phone acts more like a playback remote for viewing videos and photos, and so basically it doesnt only just mirror image the display you see on the devices screen on the TV (in other words, it enables an app where you can select the file you wanna view from the app on the Amaze, and then you can use your phone to control the playback of the videos/files etc). I also found out, not only does using the correct MHL adapter enable some pretty cool functionality & features, it also will greatly improve the HD image and sound quality being sent to your TV. All the while, the 12-pin adapter will charge your phone in the process ...
For some people, I guess, those additional features and the improved image & sound quality won't be a deciding factor for them, and will go for the cheapest adapter they can find on eBay. For me however, I'd personally rather spend the additional $20-30 for the official HTC AC500 12-pin adapter.
... Only problem now though is, I can't for the life of me seem to find them anywhere, but you can get them direct from HTCs webstore. Only problem is HTC doesn't operate their official online Accessories Store in Canada ... and neither the US or nor the UK stores will ship items here. Poo
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Double0EK said:
If you've tried the 5pin then you know that it disconnects almost all the time. Plus the charging while plugged in doesn't work too well. I have the 12pin and I don't have to sit there with a steady hand while connected to the tv and don't have to worry about the battery discharging while watching a movie from my sdcard. I prefer quality over quantity.
Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
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Hey, since you use the 12-pin adapter ... correct me if I'm wrong about what I wrote above. I don't have any 'hands on' experience using one, so I'm only going off what I have heard.
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eBay has the DC T500 for $9.99 or two for $17.99.
MHL on Sony Erisccon Live With Walkman?
I have a Sony Ericsson Live with Wlkman. Can I able to use MHL on my phone to view movies on TV?
kjisaac said:
Hey, since you use the 12-pin adapter ... correct me if I'm wrong about what I wrote above. I don't have any 'hands on' experience using one, so I'm only going off what I have heard.
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Sorry, I don't browse the accessories to often. But to answer your question. It does have a different feature...only on stock. It seems some roms remove the feature. But its no biggie. It still plays really good HD.
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couldnt ever get the 5-pin to work with my Sensation before & now on either my Amaze or Flyer (but i know it works cuz it does on my bros One V) so im selling it....picked-up a 12-pin from fleabay for $15
my ? is, which ROMs will support this feature (or which ones do not)? im using EnergyROM with the Amaze & OneXXL with the Flyer
update: 12-pin working great without the need for power to be plugged-in. sold the 5-pin OEM Adapter [73H00394-00M] for the same $20 i bought it for so ended up making $5 out of the whole thing
Double0EK said:
It does have a different feature...only on stock. It seems some roms remove the feature. But its no biggie. It still plays really good HD.
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kjisaac said:
What I have found out regarding which is the proper adapter, and you are correct it's the HTC AC500 12-pin Ext-USB to HDMI MHL adapter (its the same MHL adapter that the HTC Flyer tablet uses).The micro "Ext-USB" connection and the fact that its twelve pins instead of a 5 pin connector do indeed make a difference in terms of functionality, quality, and performance. Although, that not to say that other MHL adapters with 5-pin connectors like the HTC AC490 adapter won't work on the Amaze, cause they do in terms of displaying video on your TV. However, the 5-pin adapter wont charge the unit while its plugged in, even if you have an MHL adapter that has its own AC power source. According to HTC that is the case at least, and from reading other comments, I assume that HTC isnt bull****ting.
I was also told by the HTC rep via email, that when you use the HTC AC500 12-pin Ext-usb MHL adapter, it actually allows the Amaze 4G to open up or enable a feature where the phone acts more like a playback remote for viewing videos and photos, and so basically it doesnt only just mirror image the display you see on the devices screen on the TV (in other words, it enables an app where you can select the file you wanna view from the app on the Amaze, and then you can use your phone to control the playback of the videos/files etc). I also found out, not only does using the correct MHL adapter enable some pretty cool functionality & features, it also will greatly improve the HD image and sound quality being sent to your TV. All the while, the 12-pin adapter will charge your phone in the process ...
For some people, I guess, those additional features and the improved image & sound quality won't be a deciding factor for them, and will go for the cheapest adapter they can find on eBay. For me however, I'd personally rather spend the additional $20-30 for the official HTC AC500 12-pin adapter.
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Would love to find one of these in Canada somewhere.
Menotek MHL adapter
I'm late to the thread but I thought I'd add my experience with a similar MHL adapter. I got one by Menotek from Amazon [sorry, can't post links yet]. Short story is that it works, but far for perfectly:
- it does not charge the Amaze while it is connected to my TV via HDMI
- if you unplug it and plug it back, it will not detect the phone and TV connection anymore. I need to restart the phone in order to re-establish the link
- it works great for low res graphics such as youtube, fpse (PSX emulator)
- it sucks for hi res such as netflix movies
While my main use for this MHL adapter is to play PSX games on my phone on by big screen TV, I am disappointed that it doesn't give high quality video from my netflix app.
I wonder if I should buy the aforementioned 12-pin MHL adapter which is also available from Amazon. Does anyone have personal experience with this adapter on their Amaze?
I got mine off ebay for about 8 dollars and its never disconnected on me, I can even play games on it... works great!
blindskater39 said:
I got mine off ebay for about 8 dollars and its never disconnected on me, I can even play games on it... works great!
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Can you give more info on the MHL adapter you got off ebay? Brand/model or even link?
Thanks!
doczeuhl said:
Can you give more info on the MHL adapter you got off ebay? Brand/model or even link?
Thanks!
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I'm late to the thread but I thought I'd add my experience with a similar MHL adapter. I got one by Menotek from Amazon [sorry, can't post links yet]. Short story is that it works, but far for perfectly:
- it does not charge the Amaze while it is connected to my TV via HDMI
- if you unplug it and plug it back, it will not detect the phone and TV connection anymore. I need to restart the phone in order to re-establish the link
- it works great for low res graphics such as youtube, fpse (PSX emulator)
- it sucks for hi res such as netflix movies
While my main use for this MHL adapter is to play PSX games on my phone on by big screen TV, I am disappointed that it doesn't give high quality video from my netflix app.
I wonder if I should buy the aforementioned 12-pin MHL adapter which is also available from Amazon. Does anyone have personal experience with this adapter on their Amaze?
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Dont remember which seller they were one of the top rated sellers though and the mhl adapter supports 25-75hz. It was just one of the many 8 dollar ones on ebay... Idk how many pins it is, its just a regular micro usb port that plugs into the phone and it charges. Never acted up on me on stock on and still works fine on Speed Rom 7.8. These new postings for mhl adapters on ebay for 8 dollars claim to be capable of outputting 3D but in reality that is a requirement of 120hz. I don't know if I can believe that (well maybe it can output 3D but not good 3D video)
I havent tried netflix on my phone to the tv yet, last I remembered the quality wasn't that great even streaming to a phone and watching family guy... Is there anyway to adjust or even trick net flix into streaming higher quality for tv use?
I just got a Sanoxy MHL cable and it works great I have a USB to micro USB from my computer plugged into it and the phone charges faster than it drains. I tested disconnecting the phone from it and then reconnecting to see if the TV would pick it back up and it did. I had Bluetooth GPS and WiFi going while running a linux rom over the TV browsing the internet for about a half an hour and my battery percentage was even higher when I was done.
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Forgot to mention I got it off of amazon for $4.66 after shipping and I said rom when I meant operating system haha. Also was using bluetooth mouse and keyboard not just had Bluetooth turned on
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sbcdave said:
I just got a Sanoxy MHL cable and it works great I have a USB to micro USB from my computer plugged into it and the phone charges faster than it drains. I tested disconnecting the phone from it and then reconnecting to see if the TV would pick it back up and it did. I had Bluetooth GPS and WiFi going while running a linux rom over the TV browsing the internet for about a half an hour and my battery percentage was even higher when I was done.
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Forgot to mention I got it off of amazon for $4.66 after shipping and I said rom when I meant operating system haha. Also was using bluetooth mouse and keyboard not just had Bluetooth turned on
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How well does the battery hold up with local video, streaming, gaming?
I haven't been doing much gaming lately and I don't have netflix anymore and the only videos I have on the phone are short clips for showing friends, so I'm not sure but if I get Netflix back or decide to game out on this thing I'll let you know.
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Anyone tried to fit the Amaze 4G on a lapdock? Can't find any posts via search
Those Lapdocks (eg Atrix Lapdock) go on sale for ~$50, basically a display, keyboard, battery and trackpad.
Below is someone's hack for raspberry pi on the lapdock.... since amaze 4G has HDMI out, only thing to do is to see if we can get the cables to fit properly, and the USB functionality(keyboard+trackpad) to work, and the software
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/21/3105822/motorola-lapdock-hacked-raspberry-pi-rikomagic
So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
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So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
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from looking at the raspberry pi and other stuff(laptop/wii connected to the hdmi port), you'll get a "mirrored" display... the keyboard/trackpad depends on the usb connection/driver/OTG Kernel, dunno about that
Youll need
Lapdock: $20-$60 (i'd suggest getting the atrix/bionic versions, not the motorola 500 one)
http://www.all4cellular.com/product/motorola-atrix-4g-laptop-dock-hdmi-upgrade-kit.html
http://slickdeals.net/f/5035746-Lapdock-ATRIX-4G-60-and-Droid-Bionic-90
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29994146&postcount=16
MHL connector for HDMI: $10-$35
Official http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Adaptor-Jetstream-Tablets-Package/dp/B005LSOPN4
Unofficial, may need USB cable for power http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
->I can't get any clear indication that the USB data from phone passes through to the USB connector on the MHL adapter
maybe some HDMI cables/connector (HDMI male from MHL connector to miniHDMI female on the lapdock)
I have a tablet and a netbook too, so don't think I'll be attempting this for now
the 35Whr battery(from googling), people say it can charge your phone a couple of times over(your phone's battery is 4Volts*2AmpHr = 8Whr)
I'll see if I can find a cheap one here in Canada.
It's a rather interesting concept.
It kinda reminds me of this.http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Definitely interested in this, would be cool to have this setup.
Live and Die on this day....
went to a radioshack nearby, they didn't have it..
bascially, i would only get one if its around $20 (since you can charge phone with it, $20 for a large battery is worth it, though not for the laptop form factor)
The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
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The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
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commute on a train/bus, could watch video on a larger screen while charging your battery
if we had the software to support it as well (like the ubuntu-phone posted earlier or webtop options), could compose email or edit code on the go...
Isn't that why we have laptops?
derpTastic said:
Isn't that why we have laptops?
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if you want to spend more than $200, a laptop
if you want just one device that has everything loaded, and customizable(via the lapdock), maybe a netbook or this lapdock
i guess that's why the Atrix Lapdocks are selling at a discount... the manufacturers couldn't find a good way to advertise this expensive device (MSRP is $300 or so)
it's available for $40 on bensoutlet
http://slickdeals.net/f/5501414-AT-T-Motorola-11-6-Lapdock-40-FS
http://bensoutlet.com/products/lapdock-atrix
1% in stock left...
I got one, will play with it
We don't have hdmi
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
chozyn said:
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
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We don't have hdmi
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yes we do, via the ExtMicro / MHL port
http://androidforums.com/htc-amaze-4g/500285-clearing-air-mhl-hdmi-adapters-amaze.html
I heard that the Amaze 4G is picky about which MHL cable it accepts, and the kernel/android build on it must support HDMI out
PHP:
Has anyone been able to find an adapter that works with this tablet for charging and listening to music at the same time?
Interested in this as well. Were you able to find anything yet?
I too am interested. I see a bunch on Amazon but they all look cheap. Does anyone know of a high end micro usb-c to 3.5mm+usb-c charging?
I tried a non-charging adapter for the Moto Z2 force I had laying around and it works fine. However I still want to charge.
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I too am interested. I see a bunch on Amazon but they all look cheap. Does anyone know of a high end micro usb-c to 3.5mm+usb-c charging?
I tried a non-charging adapter for the Moto Z2 force I had laying around and it works fine. However I still want to charge.
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The following one from amazon, works fine on my mediapad M5.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BTX2DX7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Edit: Only one of the two adapters works and that one only with the original Huawei charger. It did not work when I used USB C chargers, unlike the Huawei USB A one. I have a different charger on the way and will post if it works.
This one works on type C chargers, but I'm discovering they all have an audio hum when plugged into power. Also be prepared for long ship times from Walmart.
It's a bit pricey @ $25 but this is what I've been using for the last couple weeks:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FCZY1ZB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The build quality, specifically the outer shell, is excellent and the additional DAC makes for crisp sound output.
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It's a bit pricey @ $25 but this is what I've been using for the last couple weeks:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FCZY1ZB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The build quality, specifically the outer shell, is excellent and the additional DAC makes for crisp sound output.
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I've been playing with mine the last two days and would have to agree on the sound quality. I'm not getting the audio hum, I was getting with the cheaper ones, when plugged into power. Good find.
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Has anyone been able to find an adapter that works with this tablet for charging and listening to music at the same time?
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This one works fine, and you can charge at the same time, but it disables quick-charge (must only connect the + and - connections and not the ones used for data).
Here is a link from my previous order in France. Works perfectly well
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07MCT2684/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1