[Q] Have S-Off 1.5 hboot and want to downgrade to 1.4. - HTC EVO 3D

I had my phone flashed to MetroPCS and the guy updated my hboot to 1.5 I saw a thread a couple months back about being able to downboot my hboot from 1.5 to 1.4 with S-off but a search didn't help me find anything. Anyone know the steps/point me in the right direction?

thatguy11285 said:
I had my phone flashed to MetroPCS and the guy updated my hboot to 1.5 I saw a thread a couple months back about being able to downboot my hboot from 1.5 to 1.4 with S-off but a search didn't help me find anything. Anyone know the steps/point me in the right direction?
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I've answered this a few times on this board regarding the CDMA version of the EVO 3D. I'll quote from my previous posts as I don't think anything has changed. Please post back if you still have questions!
joeykrim said:
Here are a few reasons why we aren't able to downgrade the Hboot, like was done on the EVO Shift twice:
[Q] Downgrading HBOOT 1.5 --> 1.4
Originally Posted by joeykrim
the shift didn't have all the partitions nand write locked like the EVO 3D does.
1st time around: shift didnt 'have nand write lock on the hboot partition, hence being able to temp root and directly flash eng hboot to the hboot partition.
2nd time around: shift didn't have the nand write lock on the misc partition, hence being able to temp root and flash a lower version to the misc partition then hboot would allow a downgraded version of software to be loaded.
esseentially it seems as if htc was doing the bare minimum to protect the shift from being unlocked/rooted as all these methods were known and some were used on the HTC EVO prior to the shift software releases.
this has been covered a few times on the forums, but i hope rehashing old ideas/attempts might spark new ones! sometimes it only takes a slight tweak to an old method for it to bypass a patch and work! hope that helps!
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thatguy11285 said:
I had my phone flashed to MetroPCS and the guy updated my hboot to 1.5 I saw a thread a couple months back about being able to downboot my hboot from 1.5 to 1.4 with S-off but a search didn't help me find anything. Anyone know the steps/point me in the right direction?
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If your hboot was soff before he upgraded, then it would still be soff, so if you're on hboot 1.5 with s off, then you can downgrade. If you're s on, then you're stuck.
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Yes my S-Off flag is still showing in the Bootloader
I know downgrading from 1.5 with S-on is currently impossible but I know it can be done with S-off
Should've clarified I guess
Edit: yes it is CDMA

thatguy11285 said:
Yes my S-Off flag is still showing in the Bootloader
I know downgrading from 1.5 with S-on is currently impossible but I know it can be done with S-off
Should've clarified I guess
Edit: yes it is CDMA
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21538250
Follow that thread to get back to hboot 1.4.
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k2buckley said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21538250
Follow that thread to get back to hboot 1.4.
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K2 speaketh the truth.
Flash the 1.40 Hboot and you're golden Pony Boy.

k2buckley said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21538250
Follow that thread to get back to hboot 1.4.
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thatguy11285 said:
I love you. In an internet brofist kind of way.
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Always glad to help!
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I may be the only one that doesn't have any problems with 1.5. With joeykrims flash gui, you can do pretty much anything 1.4 can do. :shrug:

Man. Wish I have s-off

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Hboot 1.30? Rootable?

I got a launch day evo 3D with Hboot with 1.40 and have been rooted since 1st day possible. Just got my wife a brand new 3D for Christmas and it has Hboot 1.30? Just out of curiosity, but is this still rootable? Or is revolutionary only restricted to 1.40? I didn't know there was any earlier versions still out there.
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You should he able to root it witbout a problem. The only unrootable hboot version is 1.50..... But this may change soon since its being worked on.
If I remember right, when you are on hboot 1.3 you select that with revolutionary and it will upgrade you to 1.4 and s-off you.
Thanks guys I'll give it a whirl. She said she had an update and I yelled at her lol.
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DarkManX4lf said:
You should he able to root it witbout a problem. The only unrootable hboot version is 1.50..... But this may change soon since its being worked on.
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False, 1.5 hboot is rootable. Being s-on does not mean no root.
Twolazyg said:
False, 1.5 hboot is rootable. Being s-on does not mean no root.
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Ah ok, my mistake.

[Q] New to EVO 3D

Hello I will be receiving my EVO 3D soon and I'm pretty sure it has an eng hboot and I was wondering if I should leave it as such or should/could I flash it to hboot 1.4? I pretty much want the same rooting abilities I currently have on my EVO 4G I'm not looking to delve into something I know nothing about...Thank you
TheMC1192 said:
Hello I will be receiving my EVO 3D soon and I'm pretty sure it has an eng hboot and I was wondering if I should leave it as such or should/could I flash it to hboot 1.4? I pretty much want the same rooting abilities I currently have on my EVO 4G I'm not looking to delve into something I know nothing about...Thank you
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Understand:
(all are assumed that bootloader are unlocked)
1.4 hboot S-OFF = you can root like we've traditionally have for years and flash any rom
1.5 hboot S-OFF = you can downgrade the hboot to 1.4 and root and flash roms as will or you can keep it and still root and flash roms as will.
1.5 hboot S-ON = you can still root and flash roms as will BUT you just need to flash the kernel (boot.img) first before you switch roms via Flash GUI or fastboot and that's it!
I really don't understand why one extra step bothers people so much? if your hear, you like the hard way, IF you wouldn't then you would stay stock, unrooted and keep living the normal life.....
I'm not worried about doing a little extra leg work trust its just that I was under the impression that you cannot get true s-off on hboot 1.5. But that wasn't my question I wanted to know if it was possible to upgrade the eng hboot to hboot 1.4 and how or point me to a thread that has that explained. Sorry if wasn't clear from the beginning
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How do u know if u r s off or on? I know I'm 1.5
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@enko420:
It's easy to find out just have to go into your bootloader by holding power+vol down when screen is off and it will say at the top of the bootloader screen
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TheMC1192 said:
@enko420:
It's easy to find out just have to go into your bootloader by holding power+vol down when screen is off and it will say at the top of the bootloader screen
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Thanks a lot bud, not to figure out how to flash roms since I am S-ON. or maybe find a path to get S-OFF on the 1.50
go into bootloader and it should say
enko420 said:
Thanks a lot bud, not to figure out how to flash roms since I am S-ON. or maybe find a path to get S-OFF on the 1.50
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There is no soff currently for hboot 1.5. But its real easy if you don't want to use a computer. Just use joeykrim app called flash image gui from the market. There is even a free version on xda. Use that to flash a kernel. Then boot into your recovery and flash the rom. Definitely easy. The only thing hboot locks to my understanding would be radio. Well kernel too but thats an easy workaround with the app.
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enko420 said:
Thanks a lot bud, not to figure out how to flash roms since I am S-ON. or maybe find a path to get S-OFF on the 1.50
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I have a guide/flashing notes in my signature that may clear some things up for you.
mpgrimm2 said:
I have a guide/flashing notes in my signature that may clear some things up for you.
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Thanks for your help and your guide, much easier than I thought

[hboot 1.50]+[s-off]+[recovery]+[root]

Ok I guess this is nothing new (I'm sorry for making a new thread but here goes since it's already here!) and honestly there's probably no reason to do this I did it on accident troubleshooting a problem with my mic...
First I did the downgrade procedure using Closeone's awesome live cd it's super easy and really not as scary as one would think!
Once the downgrade was done, had used revolutionary and I had installed Meanrom (Meanrom not necessary) I ended up running the 2.17 RUU which left me with "Relocked and S-OFF"
Then I just did the htcdev unlock (it actually won't let you select yes but it unlocks the bootloader) after this it let me flash a recovery image through fastboot.
Once again sorry this was already known I just had never seen it and wanted to share it with you all in case it might help someone
First...
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Motolav7 said:
First...
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Hey whatever makes you happy....
Can't wait to see the tut, but did the downgrade already
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Congratz man kudos...I'd like to see how you did it.
Can't Wait to see this development.
KUDOS!!
wuuuuuuujuuuuu!!!
man i really hope he figured out something special that makes the whole process easier...
Not trying to burst your bubble but i had 1.5 s-off before...all you have to do is gain s-off through revolutionary and either accidentally or purposefully flash a pg86img/ruu.exe that contains hboot 1.5. Those files don't change s-off/s-on
w0rdOo said:
Not trying to burst your bubble but i had 1.5 s-off before...all you have to do is gain s-off through revolutionary and either accidentally or purposefully flash a pg86img/ruu.exe that contains hboot 1.5. Those files don't change s-off/s-on
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Ya I have seen alot of folks 1.5 with s-off .. Like you said you go that route with the PG IMG Let's you stay to the latest of things..
Anyway's nothing insane Good to see alot of folks going S-OFF tho
w0rdOo said:
Not trying to burst your bubble but i had 1.5 s-off before...all you have to do is gain s-off through revolutionary and either accidentally or purposefully flash a pg86img/ruu.exe that contains hboot 1.5. Those files don't change s-off/s-on
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Wasn't aware this had been done I'm sorry... But yes that is how I accomplished it.... I would have posted the full write-up but I'm not near my pc
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nymica said:
Wasn't aware this had been done I'm sorry... But yes that is how I accomplished it.... I would have posted the full write-up but I'm not near my pc
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That translates to: nothing to see here, folks.
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yousefak said:
That translates to: nothing to see here, folks.
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I would give him a thanks tho for tryin Nothing wrong with that tho.. If he makes some guides for other things...
nymica said:
Wasn't aware this had been done I'm sorry... But yes that is how I accomplished it.... I would have posted the full write-up but I'm not near my pc
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a write up would be awesome!
Um I havent seen a guide on how to have s-off on hboot 1.5 without downgrading to 1.4. Did I miss something?
johntheman_692003 said:
Um I havent seen a guide on how to have s-off on hboot 1.5 without downgrading to 1.4. Did I miss something?
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what he said
johntheman_692003 said:
Um I havent seen a guide on how to have s-off on hboot 1.5 without downgrading to 1.4. Did I miss something?
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if you start with 1.3/1.4 and run revolutionary the shooter gets radio s-off. after that if you're ruu'ing to hboot 1.5 in the end result is s-off. hence the permanent nand unlock
808souljah said:
a write up would be awesome!
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johntheman_692003 said:
Um I havent seen a guide on how to have s-off on hboot 1.5 without downgrading to 1.4. Did I miss something?
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geek4u86 said:
what he said
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Reaper24 explained what had happened on the first page. Just an accident. If you are already on HBOOT 1.40, you can unlock the device (S-OFF) with Revolutionary. Upgrading back to 1.50 will still allow S-OFF to work as long as the device was previously unlocked.
Currently, the only known way of getting S-OFF on a HBOOT 1.50 is downgrading it to 1.40 (see Unknownforce's post stickied at the top of the page or my signature).
Thanks anyways nymica.
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ahhh. so im sol unless i want to use unknownfoces's method.
johntheman_692003 said:
ahhh. so im sol unless i want to use unknownfoces's method.
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I really shouldn't be doing this, but take a look at the Live CD in my signature. Makes the job a little easier. It's really not as scary as you might think. I promise.
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closeone said:
I really shouldn't be doing this, but take a look at the Live CD in my signature. Makes the job a little easier. It's really not as scary as you might think. I promise.
~co~
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Lol I have heard good things about that CD from a few folks who sent me a PM about it said it helped and was pretty dummy proof

[Q] S-Off 1.122

Quick ? I ran Lazy Panda with no problems, but why does my hboot version say 1.12.111 and some others say hboot 1.12.222. When I s offed, should my hboot have updated to 1.12.222? Just want to know why some show 1.12.111 and others 1.12.222.
Thanks
It's an engineered hboot for more fastboot cmds, find it in original android forum.
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akita1 said:
Quick ? I ran Lazy Panda with no problems, but why does my hboot version say 1.12.111 and some others say hboot 1.12.222. When I s offed, should my hboot have updated to 1.12.222? Just want to know why some show 1.12.111 and others 1.12.222.
Thanks
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go back to lazypandas website and download the fastboot version of the hboot and flash it. that will give you 1.12.2222
Yep your gonna want to update that
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I've been wondering this, and seems like a good place to ask: Why exactly is .2222 needed? Don't all the other hboot versions allow fastboot already?
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I believe its an insecure hboot that allows for the s-off exploit
premo15 said:
I've been wondering this, and seems like a good place to ask: Why exactly is .2222 needed? Don't all the other hboot versions allow fastboot already?
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No, its not in .1111
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[Q] SPRINT EVO 3D KERNAL 2.89 Hboot 1.5858 JB???

I have the EVO 3D with the 2.89 RUU installed with HBOOT 1.5858 S-OFF
Is there anyway I can put a JB ROM on my phone?
I've read that JB is not compatible with 1.5858.
Downgrade to the 1.04 ENG Hboot (found in the lens_flare edition miui thread) and you'll be good to go
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Sounds like you already know the answer.
He was probably looking for clarification
hboot downgrade
Well I've also read that I can downgrade my hboot to 1.4, but that I have to brick it to do that. In other forums people talk like downgrading to 1.4 is simple. When I got the 1.58 upgrade it updated all my radio filestoo.. So I'm wondering if those radioh files are stored on the same partition as hboot. If they are I know how to flash my hboot with fastboot flash command so that would be simple.. Any help, pointers or info would be greatly appreciated.
ZWYATT said:
Sounds like you already know the answer.
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hboot 1.04
First thanks again.. Do you know if I can just flash this hboot w/o bricking the phone. A lot of people are saying that the phone needs to be bricked to downgrade.
beneath-a-burning-turtle said:
Downgrade to the 1.04 ENG Hboot (found in the lens_flare edition miui thread) and you'll be good to go
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I see we have someone with common sense here thank you for explaining that!:good:
Jsparta26 said:
He was probably looking for clarification
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frankk1979 said:
First thanks again.. Do you know if I can just flash this hboot w/o bricking the phone. A lot of people are saying that the phone needs to be bricked to downgrade.
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Yes, since youre s-off, all you need to do is find a copy of the hboot ( pg86img.zip) and place it on your sdcard, and boot into the bootloader, the phone does everything else from there on its own
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817513
You should be able to find all the info you need there.

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