Is Transformer Prime worth it? - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

I have been looking into buying a Transformer Prime Tablet but after coming on these forums I see that it isn't exactly a perfect machine. So how bad are these problems? How bad is the wifi? GPS? The tegra 3 is supposed to be 3x as fast as the tegra 2, is it? I understand that every piece of technology will have its ups and downs and you will always have people complaining but I hear even ASUS started acknowledging this? Also whats up with this new shut off problem and problems with updating or after updating?
Sorry to hit you guys with all these questions but Its a big investment, and my main use will be school.
Thanks in advanced!

Yes. If you want one of the better tablets out there, you desire a tablet that can replace most of a laptops functions and like a laptop you don't need a fully functional GPS you will love it.
If you are like all the other complainers out there about a tablet not having a GPS, then don't bother. We don't need another one of those complainers out there.
Good luck in your choice I am very happy with mine.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium

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Yes. If you want one of the better tablets out there, you desire a tablet that can replace most of a laptops functions and like a laptop you don't need a fully functional GPS you will love it.
If you are like all the other complainers out there about a tablet not having a GPS, then don't bother. We don't need another one of those complainers out there.
Good luck in your choice I am very happy with mine.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
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What about the wifi and the other common problems? Also I plan on getting a wifi only one anyways so gps can only do so much for me

I just bought mine yesterday and I love it. Theres a noticible speed difference between this and my tf101.
My wifi seems fine, not so sure about my gps because I havent tested it without wifi on, but with wifi it worked fine.
Im a college student and I use my tf in school, not for notes though, nothing will beat the feeling of pen on paper.
I use it for a planner in jorte calender to keep on top of my due dates.
I use it to capture pictures of powerpoint slides for professors that do not upload.
I use it on the bus there to play games, watch movies, watch cbt nuggets, study, or listen to music.
I use it as a second screen (gotta love the dock) for project writeups while I do forensics projects on computers in the computer lab.
I've also replaced my phone with google voice/skype - as I have a 4g hotspot .
Most importantly I use it to show the world how large my penis is by having a quadcore tablet.

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What about the wifi and the other common problems? Also I plan on getting a wifi only one anyways so gps can only do so much for me
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GPS is the only common problem. All others are small numbers compared to whole of working devices. Just check out positive thread in my signature. The answer you seek is there. Don't get sucked into all this b.s. on the surface. Majority of prime owners happy with device n have no issues or hardly any. Decide for yourself. Look at both sides. Issues side tend to exaggerate n complain alot more. Not as many people have it as it may seem on surface. Plenty of polls hereto price that.
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ickkii said:
I just bought mine yesterday and I love it. Theres a noticible speed difference between this and my tf101.
My wifi seems fine, not so sure about my gps because I havent tested it without wifi on, but with wifi it worked fine.
Im a college student and I use my tf in school, not for notes though, nothing will beat the feeling of pen on paper.
I use it for a planner in jorte calender to keep on top of my due dates.
I use it to capture pictures of powerpoint slides for professors that do not upload.
I use it on the bus there to play games, watch movies, watch cbt nuggets, study, or listen to music.
I use it as a second screen (gotta love the dock) for project writeups while I do forensics projects on computers in the computer lab.
I've also replaced my phone with google voice/skype - as I have a 4g hotspot .
Most importantly I use it to show the world how large my penis is by having a quadcore tablet.
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Hey u owe me! Lol j/k did you ever get the update working with files iI gave you?

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GPS is the only common problem. All others are small numbers compared to whole of working devices. Just check out positive thread in my signature. The answer you seek is there. Don't get sucked into all this b.s. on the surface. Majority of prime owners happy with device n have no issues or hardly any. Decide for yourself. Look at both sides. Issues side tend to exaggerate n complain alot more. Not as many people have it as it may seem on surface. Plenty of polls hereto price that.
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Hey u owe me! Lol j/k did you ever get the update working with files iI gave you?
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Thanks again. In theory it should of worked, but I forgot to mention I deleted the bloatware as well. I downloaded a system dump of system/app/, but I need to make nandroid backups before I swap something like that out, and I don't have a recovery console like cwm right now.

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Thanks again. In theory it should of worked, but I forgot to mention I deleted the bloatware as well. I downloaded a system dump of system/app/, but I need to make nandroid backups before I swap something like that out, and I don't have a recovery console like cwm right now.
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Check the thread you made..I posted in there

thanks, that was exactly what I needed. On paper it seems like a beast and in reviews it did amazing. But these forums kind of had me skeptical.

I bought many Prime after reviews online and testing one at the local store. But waiting for mine to be delivered I started finding threads about all these issues. Can honestly say I was scared I made the wrong choice.
However, no WiFi or GPS issues
Now - I have a ton of learning to do... this isn't quite what I was expecting and have a lot of setup to do to make use of this new toy.

I feel you. Yesterday I went around looking for them, and gamestop was the only place with them in stock. Their return policy is "once you open it, you're stuck with it". Nervously made the decision to buy it, handed over my 534 dollars. Opened it, perfect unit. Took the biggest sigh of relief.

i got this device a week ago, and everything works great for me. wifi is just fine

I don't have any shut off, random reboot or wifi problems with my prime, although the GPS doesn't work. The keyboard dock works extremely well (and is a handy backup battery). Personally I consider it a required feature for a tablet, which rather limits alternatives.
Although I am very happy with my prime, and it can do everything I require of it (which includes coding), it doesn't offer *quite* the performance I'd hoped for and if you don't feel you need a tablet I'd hold off for another generation. Tablet tech is good now but at the current rate of improvement this time next year it should be great.

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[Q] TP Worth Waiting For ?

Okay so I dont have it pre-ordered or anything basically waiting for Best Buy to get it back in stock.
Been seeing alot of the posts here, and was wondering if it is really worth the wait. It seems like alot of negatives are going on here concerning the prime and I wonder if it is really worth it or if I should look into a different tablet.
I mean is it as buggy and problematic as it seems ?
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I mean is it as buggy and problematic as it seems ?
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You'd best do a LOT of reading about this thing if you don't want your pocket picked.
in a nutshell, yes it's worth the wait, and no it's not as buggy as it seems to be on these forums. are there some manuf flaws from a rushed first production run? sure. do most other first generation/run devices have flaws like this? yes.
value is very subjective and it's going to depend on what you want from a tablet.
do you want cutting edge hardware that will be "king" for at least 4 months?
do you not care about proper gps functionality? (as in, are you going to use this as a standalone GPS device for navigating and while it's not connected to a wireless network)
do you want android?
do you want timely updates?
do you want something NOW?
if you answered yes to those questions, the prime is hands down the best tablet on the market.
personally, my prime works fine (aside from no gps lock, but A-GPS works perfectly fine for my usage), i have very little light bleed on the upper left, and will exchange that for another one once gamestop gets new stock in, but otherwise this thing is fast, solid, & gorgeous.
the kicker for the prime line in general tends to be the dock, i had one for the tf101 and i loved it, waiting for amazon to deliver my dock for the prime.
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in a nutshell, yes it's worth the wait,
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Bull****.
Everytime I turn round there's a new thread with someone having MAJOR problems. The tablet isn't worth it to someone who has ANY clue as to the value of money.
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Bull****.
Everytime I turn round there's a new thread with someone having MAJOR problems. The tablet isn't worth it to someone who has ANY clue as to the value of money.
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Before you call BS on somebody's, IMHO very well argumented, opinion, have you considered:
1) Most people happy with their prime don't post "I'm so happy with my prime", only people having problems post in the forum.
2) Have you considered the prime install base vs. the number of thread stating problems. I agree that the prime has major hw issues if the install base is like only 500 units and there are 50 threads with problems (10% with defective units). But if the install base is 5,000 or 50,000 then only 1 to 0,1 % observes problems and almost 99% do not..
3) How many of the problems observed are in regards to human error or lack of knowledge? I've seen threads where people complain that the unit won't turn on because they haven't charged it or for what ever reason have gotten the unit into boot mode.
4)Some problems are attributed to ICS in general and not the prime.
I agree that the prime launch has been sub optimal and the first batch of primes has definitely generated a lot of static about hardware problems. I got mine exchanged for a new unit, and have not seen any of the problems mentioned on the forums.
OP: See adiliyo's post, I definitely agree on his views. I enjoy my Prime very much and with the keyboard, I rarely have a reason to boot my macbook. The UI is very smooth, it is absolutely a beast in regards to video playback, and the build quality is very good. With ICS the browser performance is very good and almost as fast as a desktop browser.
If you want to be sure to buy a tablet with no problems at all, then wait a few months after launch before you buy. Being first mover presents both unique problems but also unique rewards - like me having the prime in Denmark 5 weeks before hitting retail here.
It depends, the prime in itself is beautiful but there is no denying that it has some serious issues, namely GPS and WIFI.
GPS is irrelevant for me (even though it simply should work of course) but WIFI IS a serious issue. When close to the router and with no obstacles all is fine but performance degrades quickly once you move away from the router.
Check this video for a comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzCZc3pjtrA
And I can confirm these results with my prime (also owning the original transformer TF101).
Apart from WIFI, it truely is beautiful and worth the wait but if you plan to use wifi across the house, or in some other spots with lesser access, for streaming video, etc please think twice (or thrice) before geting it.
Worth to me. I did a little homework before I decided to buy a Prime. I knew the GPS would be a problem, but I didn't really need a 10" GPS anyway. So I went for it.
The wifi function is okay, no big issue. everything is good. Quite satisfied now.
I believe it is worth the wait. I read constantly while waiting for best buy to have them in stock online. I took into consideration the various problems individuals were having and when one became available, I purchased it. I have had it all but a week now and have seen zero issues in regards to wi-fi (signal strength matches my Atrix's whereever I am) and GPS works well enough that it locates my location close-enough. As another poster said, only those people who have seen issues have posted about them. I have zero complaints with mine, especially with the ICS update yesterday, and would recommend this unit to anyone seeking a great tablet.
I'd say it's worth it. I know looking on the forums might make some people a little nervous about shelling out $500 for the current Prime. But you need to keep in mind that forums are where people go WHEN they have problems. Obviously, people with issues are over-represented here.
That said, I would not say the TF201 is perfect. GPS seems clearly defective. No excuses on this one. If you need GPS, look elsewhere.
Aside from that, I don't see anything else that can be considered a major flaw. Some people have issues with Wifi, most do not (myself included, I get the same internet speed on my TF201 as I do on my gigabit wired desktop). As far as the other stuff (light bleed, dead pixels), it's not really out of the ordinary for LCD screens for a minority to have issues...read newegg reviews for practically any popular monitor and you'll see it, likewise over at apple (or other device) forums. People who are expecting LCD screen production to be perfect or for manufacturers to go over every pixel on every device are kidding themselves.
Thank you for some of the replys.
This is my thing, I know generally the fourms are where people are going to be crying about there devices.
Now I work in a tech support type job, so I know an opinion of something can be skewed when all you see is bad about stuff. now the other thing though is this. I see people posting issues about how doing regular firmware updates are causing serious issues with their Prime's.
I know its hands down on papaer the best tablet, but even with one of my friends who has one, first time he opened it out of box he did a fireware update and nearly bricked and then had to do the battery drain to fix the problem.
So I am alittle hesitant on the whole prime still. Which is why I am here on the fourms asking, basicly seeing, those who are "happy" who haven't had the problems, who don't seem to be those who are whining and crying and complaing about how Asus "stole my money", come forth and say something.
Oh and thanks adiliyo, your post seemed to at least be unbias, so thanks, also I too dont give a rats about the GPS, its a tablet, sure its nice to work, but not a big deal for me. Also ph0ton you as well thanks for the opinion.
Hopefully there will still be more replys still, cause I am still sadly on the fence about his.
I recieved one from the 1st batch (arrived on 23rd) and the only issue I have is weaker GPS than my XOOM, but I have never used the GPS on either. My Wifi is fine, and I absolutely love the tablet overall. I would buy it again in a second.

What should I do? couple days left need opinions(discontinued Prime)

Don't shoot messenger on this one. people believe that the Prime is being discontinued already. This is the Q&A Forum I'm newbie, so I asked here. Figured it was the correct area. Just read this thread and I don't know what to believe. All I know is Asucks wont fix our proven defected primes that we have right now.
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/transformer-prime-general-discussions/13235-should-i-keep.html#post133813
People are talking about getting their refund while they can. I'm in the same situation but I got until the 22nd. I got the Champagne model with the dock. These docks are suppose to work with the new TF700 with the strip of plastic on the back, So if there isn't a design fault why not make the back of the new tablet the same as the Prime, Its already in production and would be easy for them to keep up production, everyone knows it’s the back causing these issues. on the new one they are fixing it like they should fix ours.
I would even pay shipping they should do this for everyone who spent their hard earned money and waited months after they paid to get this product only to be disappointed in certain things with it everyone who bought a prime should get the back replaced bottom line!!! It should pick up signals just like my galaxy 10.1 or my phone, it’s only fair. I would like to know if the GPS issue where they took that off the spec sheet is what they call in the legal world as "bait and switch" (LAWSUIT?).
Mine isn't too bad other than the Wi-Fi I get signal drops about every 20 seconds and a little light bleed on right side of screen its really minor in 3 small spots all on the right side of the screen the light bleed comes out about the size of a pencil if you laid it right beside the black in those spots actually one spot is about an inch up the other are about a half inch up the screen. That really don't bother me not noticeable unless on completely black screen and the light is turned up real high.
The guys on the forums have taken the back off and everything. It is a very good read but it proves its a default with Asus but they fixed their Primes themselves its a long thread but worth the read. I think this is going to turn into a modding tablet. At least I hope so, maybe I would keep it or buy another one later. The ones that took them apart got rid of the light-bleed by loosening the screws and playing around to just the right amount of pressure. But with the mods they have done with wires hooked up to the WLAN and GPS connections they got a strong signal and pick up satellites so it is an Asus default, they can’t deny it anymore, So hopefully they make a move at Asucks and fast before I have to send mine back for refund once again. I just wish they would own up and fix the Prime; it would save their reputation and make it a really good tablet that functions as it is suppose to.
Another issue is they probably have so many returns I think people that don't know might be getting screwed over because to be honest, actually I think I got a return sold to me as a brand new Tablet from a reputable source Newegg, I know Newegg would not re-box these so it would have to be Asucks and I think this might be Illegal not Newegg but Asus Selling used items as brand new. I think they may be getting returns that look brand new and boxing them up as new, when they were actually used. As far as mine goes it’s not like it came out of the box where you could tell for sure that it was used but it just didn't look in perfect condition like my other tablets I've opened and it’s been many at least over 10, but it’s very nice to be truthful and I couldn't prove if it was used for sure because it looks new, but I just have a feeling they are taking these returns that people are sending back that are opened already, and used maybe a couple times and selling them again as brand new that's just my opinion.
They have to have a giant pile of used Primes somewhere. Maybe down the line we will see refurbished ones but I haven't saw any yet and I know at least 6 people myself that took back open Primes. With slight use that still looked brand new when they were put back in the box. Sorry for such a long post I just wanted to share my experience and I'm going through the same thing. I don't know whether to ship back because I really do like it. Or If I should just wait it out for Acer or Lenovo to release their Tegra 3s, which is also suppose to have 2GB of ram, that's a huge difference in ram, or just keep what I have and hope Asus will make it right with us.
Waiting for the others Acer and Lenovo seems like it will be forever from what I've read they will release in the second quarter. I think I read somewhere that it is also going to be toward the end of the second quarter. I just can’t see myself holding onto this if it is going to be discontinued and if it will never get it fixed. Someone should start modding them the right person with the right skills. Where they will look nice and clean when finished with the mod. They would make a killing if they could get the Wi-Fi and GPS issue fixed with some sort of plexi or acrylic glass smoothed out on the back like the new one or the IPAD.
First: there is enter button on every keyboard. Use it from time to time.
Second: chaging the back to a plastic one isn't easy because it would require changing a lot of the internal construction (which uses the metal back) - at least from what I read.
I know there is an enter button man, see,
I was just in a hurry I had some schoolwork that needed finished. Deadlines.
Anyways I'm not talking replacing the entire back, just a strip on the back plate. You see what I'm trying to explain. Maybe a half to full inch strip across the back with either - epoxy or glued to the metal plating that's already there.
Maybe even get into design cuts, dragons, tribal, your name, whatever you liked cut out of the back plating. using a dremel or something similar, I don't know what you would cut that back plate with but I assume a dremel would work. then have a thin enough sheet of plexi glass or acrylic, then maybe some LED's, to light it up. I don't know if that would mess with the screen viewing though, just a thought that came as I was looking around my room.
Its just an idea I thought of when I looked over at my Modded Xbox to start modding similar to Xbox mods. Like on mine I have designs cut out and LED's, I have a design cut out of the top on the shell of my JTaged XBOX along with extra fans to keep it cool. It just adds another dimension to our possibilities.
I don't think Asucks is going to fix our primes. I bet they got a junkyard full of primes my third one is going back in a couple days. Light bleed, Bad reception from WiFi. If I go to the farthest place in my house, which is upstairs and back through a hallway and into the farthest bedroom, with all my tablets the prime is 30db less reception than the others?
By the way I wasn't trying to be an ass I was just in a hurry, and trying to get everything wrote down before my test. I had an online test that I had to login to. Sorry for the eyestrain!
my dilemma
so i just got my prime in the mail and have the keyboard for it...
and after reading many of these posts and threads i'm left wondering if i should just return it before i even open the fargin box. i'm actually contemplating opening a thread to get a poll going and see the common idea
I understand where your coming from. Its a crazy situation man. I would at least open it and see how it performs you might have one of the "good ones"? I know mine isn't all that good at least my GPS and WiFi, they suck. I can be in the same room walk 10 feet away and it loses a bar and drops a good amount in WiFi analyzer. That's just crazy. I'm pretty sure mine is going back I like it a lot too. Just if it didn't have those issues.
Does ANYONE know the release date for the Acer or the Lenovo. I'm more interested in the Lenovo. Asus needs some competition, like right now or soon, so that they get the point when people stop buying this Prime until its fixed. They don't care because people are still buying them.
i caved
so they say curiosity killed the cat... luckily this cat seems to have gotten away ok thus far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492609
i couldn't get the hyperlink to work properly on this tab but i'm sure i'll get it going in the future.
i'm liking it, in summary to the thread i just tried to link to is about how this one is working.
aside from the gps not getting a signal during a day and night of terrible weather, everything else seems to be going good and i can happily say that i think i got a good one... or rather one that works as it is supposed to.
i doubt i'll ever really need the gps functionality as the wifi can give me bing maps or googe maps or mapquest which can work with a little logical deduction, i'm thinking that even if that just doesn't work, i'm really not going to be swayed away from keeping this thing.
so far... me likey
Yeah I really don't want to let mine go either. I was just wondering does light bleed get worse? I can deal with the WiFi because it is acceptable. GPS don't matter to me. I got a cell for that.
The cell letting me connect to my Prime away from home, that is what is one of the things that is leaning me more toward keeping this tablet. I love that patch, I forget the guys name that got it figured out but, thanks again man. If I keep my cell right beside me the Prime stays on 4 bars but sometimes it drops to 3 bars. I'm on 3G but it seems to work decent. I'm thinking of trying a lighter browser for when I do tether.
Did you have a question hiding in that wall of text?
Light bleed should NOT get worse over time.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
Well... don't sweat it! I've got my Prime a few weeks ago and love it deeply. I come from the 'original' TF101 and I have (had) both with the keyboard dock. Light bleed is the same as with the previous model (little better). GPS, nah who uses THAT on their tablets anyway? As for WiFi, just works great and in comparison, just google for ipad wifi issues. My girlfriend has an ipad2 and it too has wifi issues (and not my prime or laptops). Keep it, use it, love it, that's my advise.
Did you have a question hiding in that wall of text?
Thanks for the replies on the questions that I did have. Yeah maybe I should have put this in general section, but the main question why I started this thread was to ask about the Prime being discontinued. Or if this was just a rumor.
I got a few days left to decide if I want to keep mine and if they discontinue it, I'm not going to keep it, its going back. Then I went off on how Asus aint doing SH*T for us, your right about the lack of many questions, but yeah there are some questions in there, along with my rambling about Asus, I'm just pretty pissed off about this man. Anyways if my OP offended you in any way, my bad man.
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There were plenty of questions, I just added them in quotes below. I don't even see the point of your post man, it added nothing beneficial. Thanks to those who answered. I have a better understanding now.
people believe that the Prime is being discontinued already. This is the Q&A Forum I'm newbie, so I asked here. Figured it was the correct area. Just read this thread and I don't know what to believe?
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People are talking about getting their refund while they can. I'm in the same situation but I got until the 22nd.
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I would like to know if the GPS issue where they took that off the spec sheet is what they call in the legal world as "bait and switch"
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I don't know whether to ship back because I really do like it. Or If I should just wait it out for Acer or Lenovo to release their Tegra 3s, which is also suppose to have 2GB of ram, that's a huge difference in ram, or just keep what I have and hope Asus will make it right with us.
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Does ANYONE know the release date for the Acer or the Lenovo. I'm more interested in the Lenovo. Asus needs some competition, like right now or soon, so that they get the point when people stop buying this Prime until its fixed. They don't care because people are still buying them.
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Yeah I really don't want to let mine go either. I was just wondering does light bleed get worse? I can deal with the WiFi because it is acceptable. GPS don't matter to me. I got a cell for that.
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Completely dumb thread based on false info and specualtion. Prime is not being discontinued. New TF-300 is not a replacement for the prime. Its actually a lower specs n lower price device aimed St different market. Its more like an OG transformer 1.5. New tf-700 is not a rreplacement for prime either. Aimed at a higher end market with its HD display. Not worth the extra$100 IMO. When there hasn't been any official tests or stats shown that plastic strip on back of its metal backcover actually improves wireless reception.
So believe into the senseless rumors if you want. Some people are so gullible..lmfao we already have tons of dev. Support n this ship will keep ln moving. Stop believing every single dang thing you hear on the internet..lmao. no proof at all to suggest Prime being discontinued. If anything. Production on it has been amped up.
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BeachAgent said:
so i just got my prime in the mail and have the keyboard for it...
and after reading many of these posts and threads i'm left wondering if i should just return it before i even open the fargin box. i'm actually contemplating opening a thread to get a poll going and see the common idea
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Don't. As its pointless and will get shut down. Good working primes clearly outnumber faulty ones. Poll will immediately show to keep it. All other polls have same result. Majority satisfied with their prime and keeping it.
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I understand where your coming from. Its a crazy situation man. I would at least open it and see how it performs you might have one of the "good ones"? I know mine isn't all that good at least my GPS and WiFi, they suck. I can be in the same room walk 10 feet away and it loses a bar and drops a good amount in WiFi analyzer. That's just crazy. I'm pretty sure mine is going back I like it a lot too. Just if it didn't have those issues.
Does ANYONE know the release date for the Acer or the Lenovo. I'm more interested in the Lenovo. Asus needs some competition, like right now or soon, so that they get the point when people stop buying this Prime until its fixed. They don't care because people are still buying them.
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No new competitive tablets you mentioned will be out anytime soon. June the earliest. Too long of a wait IMO. By then Nvidia already will be ready to announce n roll out tegra4 devices. We one step ahead of the game..lol
Prime really aint as bad as I originally thought.
Completely dumb thread based on false info and specualtion. Prime is not being discontinued. New TF-300 is not a replacement for the prime. Its actually a lower specs n lower price device aimed St different market. Its more like an OG transformer 1.5. New tf-700 is not a rreplacement for prime either. Aimed at a higher end market with its HD display. Not worth the extra$100 IMO. When there hasn't been any official tests or stats shown that plastic strip on back of its metal backcover actually improves wireless reception.
So believe into the senseless rumors if you want. Some people are so gullible..lmfao we already have tons of dev. Support n this ship will keep ln moving. Stop believing every single dang thing you hear on the internet..lmao. no proof at all to suggest Prime being discontinued. If anything. Production on it has been amped up.
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I didn't say that I believed anything that's why I asked here in the Q&A forum, I assume the forum is for questions. To be honest, now that I've used my Prime for a few days I'm liking it the more I use it, and just to clear up another issue I read in another thread not all primes are affected by the new update. I got the latest update with no battery drain or SOD issues, I don't think I'm going to send it back anymore, I've grown to like this bad boy.
Its not really as bad compared to what I've read hear about some others. They have major Issues. I just don't want something to happen down the road that gives me all the lockups and random reboots that some others are having.
So you got a laugh on me, glad that I could make you smile man. You didn't spill your coffee or anything did you? j/k man, I come in peace for real. I'm just new to this tablet and all I seem to hear is bad news.
The only thing wrong with mine is problems I have I stated, not a very good reception and slight light bleed, but its not to bad at least the light bleed, you don't even notice it unless the tablet is all the way black and light is up above 60-70%. I guess I can deal with the reception. I still get 2 bars but I forget what I get upstairs on WiFi Analyzer, I know its like 20-25 less db than my phone, the Prime will drop down 20-25 db and come back up every couple minutes. Don't know why the Prime does this. I will have to search the forums about that.
I don't believe everything I read I guess I should have made my post more clear. I was just asking a question in a Question thread, isn't that what the this forum is for?
But peace, man for real though the questions I asked about was because I had no Idea and it seemed like I was going to have all these issues that others were reporting because of my weak WiFi and no GPS. I thought that was a sign of a bad Prime. I don't even really see me using the GPS anyways and if I did I could just tether my phone or use my phone, It has a big enough screen at 4.5". I just got this thing and I"m used to a strong connection from all my devices - Galaxy Tab, Touchpad, Viewsonic GTablet, 2 Nooks, and phone.
Just return it.
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I didn't say that I believed anything that's why I asked here in the Q&A forum, I assume the forum is for questions. To be honest, now that I've used my Prime for a few days I'm liking it the more I use it, and just to clear up another issue I read in another thread not all primes are affected by the new update. I got the latest update with no battery drain or SOD issues, I don't think I'm going to send it back anymore, I've grown to like this bad boy.
Its not really as bad compared to what I've read hear about some others. They have major Issues. I just don't want something to happen down the road that gives me all the lockups and random reboots that some others are having.
So you got a laugh on me, glad that I could make you smile man. You didn't spill your coffee or anything did you? j/k man, I come in peace for real. I'm just new to this tablet and all I seem to hear is bad news.
The only thing wrong with mine is problems I have I stated, not a very good reception and slight light bleed, but its not to bad at least the light bleed, you don't even notice it unless the tablet is all the way black and light is up above 60-70%. I guess I can deal with the reception. I still get 2 bars but I forget what I get upstairs on WiFi Analyzer, I know its like 20-25 less db than my phone, the Prime will drop down 20-25 db and come back up every couple minutes. Don't know why the Prime does this. I will have to search the forums about that.
I don't believe everything I read I guess I should have made my post more clear. I was just asking a question in a Question thread, isn't that what the this forum is for?
But peace, man for real though the questions I asked about was because I had no Idea and it seemed like I was going to have all these issues that others were reporting because of my weak WiFi and no GPS. I thought that was a sign of a bad Prime. I don't even really see me using the GPS anyways and if I did I could just tether my phone or use my phone, It has a big enough screen at 4.5". I just got this thing and I"m used to a strong connection from all my devices - Galaxy Tab, Touchpad, Viewsonic GTablet, 2 Nooks, and phone.
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Fair enough. You explained your situation well. If you think you may have a wifi range issue confirm it with wifi analyzer. Don't go by bars on prime wifi, not a good indicator. There are plenty out there that get strong connections. If you think its not working right, just exchange it. Or you could try forgetting your network, then rebooting and see if that fixes it. All wifi devices will vary but the prime should be on par with your other devices. Mines is on par with my Ipad and Atrix 4g.
What firmware are you on? If not on the latest update, get on it. Plus we have another update coming early next week.
Also if it has bad light bleed, in your opinion, then just exchange it also. Don't settle for it. You can just exchange it and get a fully capable device.
I won't lie... I was eager upon opening this thread, only to be greeted by this disappointing amount of ranting found within.
I considered sifting for questions... but then decided to make a sandwich instead.
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So believe into the senseless rumors if you want. Some people are so gullible..lmfao we already have tons of dev. Support n this ship will keep ln moving. Stop believing every single dang thing you hear on the internet..lmao. no proof at all to suggest Prime being discontinued. If anything. Production on it has been amped up.
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I will agree that the prime isn't "dead", but I will say ASUCKS has screwed this one so bad that there is no way production will continue as long as it was intended. I highly doubt that save a major MAJOR redesign of the tab, we will be seeing stock coming in for more than a ~2 mths past the TF700 series, despite what ASUCKS claims. If, and thats a big IF, the new TF700 or 300 for that matter has rectified our wifi/bluetooth/GPS problems, then production on the 201s will halt. Right now, as we speak, ASUCKS is trying to figure out how the hell they are going to weather the storm that is the blowup of the prime in their face. There's not a single techy I know that isn't aware of these issues, and most average consumers get their recommendations from us.
I would also venture to say that production has dropped, not to be argumentative demandarin, but the fact that stores can't get stock and RMAs are taking forever isn't because people are buying the hell out of these things, but because of the incredibly high return rate. Its because they know they have a serious design flaw that really can't be fixed baring admitting they originally lied when they said "we don't have any issues, we don't know what you all are talking about". And they certainly cannot admit that now with the pending lawsuit. This has been proven by huge retailers like Clove, Staples, and even AMAZON refusing to sell the damn thing due to high return rates. Honestly, when was the last time a retailer refused to sell a product before the manufacturer recalled it? So they have to weather the storm and hope that enough face can be saved and the TF 700/300 doesn't flop. They definitely lost alot of customers though, ALOT of people aren't happy, including my 2 classmates who got BC serials from bestbuy. On a side note, Staples has taken an official stance it seems to stop selling again despite the C1 reiteration they "promised" me would fix all my problems. Guess I have to return it for cash/giftcard this time around.
I've been an early adopter all my life. I am that asshole who waits in line at best buy to get the XBOX on opening night, and picked up the SGN on launch day. I used to have great faith in asus, loved them and their products, this was a naaaaasty flop. I'll be holding out until we get our new MWC announcements and see what kind of functionality the other manufacturers can bring. It's going to be really hard for me to be an early adopter of ASUcks again though.
Also I get the whole T700 premium tablet arguement, I dont want the high res display either, those pixels dont matter on a 10" screen and it'll do nothing but eat my battery/performance for $100, but imo working wifi at the hospital, which is mainly where I'll use it, is more important to me, and well worth $100 for a solid build that acer is likely to lack and working wifi/geolocation/bluetooth.
Honestly though if you can get a working prime that satisfies your needs, I'll be the first to say keep it. The device is unparalleled when working properly. Unfortunately I cannot justify paying ~500 for a tablet that won't give me continuous wifi in my hospital setting where walls are abundant, and I cant bluetooth my Breaking Bad audio to ignore vampire gayness. *high five demandarin*
sry, that was long, back to psych final studyin =\

Cnet Prizefight-Prime vs. Ipad 2

Hey Guys
Check out the recent Cnet prizefight between the Prime and the Ipad 2, what do you think of the reults? I love these prizefights, and this one was pretty good..actually a first for the Ipad 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdNS_VA5EfM
1) Lack of widescreen is an advantage...
2) "The OS we will be personal preference but we gave the win to iPad because we are dumb"
3) "Basically, the TFP has better camera/video/screen than the iPad but this round is a tie cause IDK why"
The iPad is a nice device but the points they bring up and compare are so dumb.
That b.s. Comparison..lol they gave ipa2 rounds where prime clearly outshined it. 4.4 to 4.5 my a+-..lol prime clearly won
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1) Lack of widescreen is an advantage...
2) "The OS we will be personal preference but we gave the win to iPad because we are dumb"
3) "Basically, the TFP has better camera/video/screen than the iPad but this round is a tie cause IDK why"
The iPad is a nice device but the points they bring up and compare are so dumb.
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exactly......
got to love that screen tear at 1:20
In "Value" they compare the 16GB version of the iPad 2 to the 32GB of the Prime, makes no sense.
They should compare apples to apples, the 32GB wifi of the Prime is $499 and the 32GB wifi of the iPad 2 is $619.
Yeah, I did not get how the Ipad 2 won when they mentioned that the prime had a better camera, multimedia etc...I believe that the Prime won this prizefight hands down...despite it's issues, I just love the smoothness, color display, speed and size of this tablet!
Also, most of the professional review sites that do these comparisons actually give the win to the Prime. Let's not forget, the original Ipad and the O.S. had its share of software issues also, but now its much better. This will be the same with ICS and Nvidia..once all the kinks are worked out, things will be MUCH better(GPS issues not counting)
xGary said:
1) Lack of widescreen is an advantage...
2) "The OS we will be personal preference but we gave the win to iPad because we are dumb"
3) "Basically, the TFP has better camera/video/screen than the iPad but this round is a tie cause IDK why"
The iPad is a nice device but the points they bring up and compare are so dumb.
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Oh, and send your Prime in for an RMA wait 21 day's for bad wifi and bluetooth and get one back that has worse wifi, bluetooth and oh yea it also freezes and locks up!!!! ( DING DING)
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rand33099 said:
Oh, and send your Prime in for an RMA wait 21 day's for bad wifi and bluetooth and get one back that has worse wifi, bluetooth and oh yea it also freezes and locks up!!!! ( DING DING)
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Troll Award! DING DING!!!
rand33099 said:
Oh, and send your Prime in for an RMA wait 21 day's for bad wifi and bluetooth and get one back that has worse wifi, bluetooth and oh yea it also freezes and locks up!!!! ( DING DING)
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IO error
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Troll Award! DING DING!!!
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You beat me to this! We all know the tab has issues, and Asus has been working to try and fix it..no need to repeat this over and over again. Even with the issues that some users are having, it is still a great tablet.
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Troll Award! DING DING!!!
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TROLL, dont think so.......Just stating the truth my friend. Not saying one company is better than the other. Just pissed at this device I cant use thats all......
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MRCANNADY said:
You beat me to this! We all know the tab has issues, and Asus has been working to try and fix it..no need to rpeat this over and over again. Even with the issues that some users are having, it is still a great tablet.
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My point is I cannot say its great, not trying to start anything maybe you have a good working tablet I do not so don't start stuff just cause someone says something negative. Believe me I try to like it .
Wow that was close with iPad still on top. I hope they re-do the prize fight once the iPad 3 launches.
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TROLL, dont think so.......Just stating the truth my friend. Not saying one company is better than the other. Just pissed at this device I cant use thats all......
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My point is I cannot say its great, not trying to start anything maybe you have a good working tablet I do not so don't start stuff just cause someone says something negative. Believe me I try to like it .
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What exactly happened with your device? Is it unusable at all right now? If you sent it in for RMA b4, send it back. If they can't get the issue right they will give you a new tablet. Just let them know how frustrated you are that you had to wait so long for first RMA only to get it back in worse condition. Plus there is a hardware fix/check the service centers will perform now to make sure your wifi antennae is connected properly or that the foil didn't shift. Needed supplies are being shipped to all service centers now.
Engadget also gave the Award to the Ipad even though the votes were so close.
I have both tablets and use the Prime 95% of the time. Notice that they did not even mention the front facing camera on the IPAD 2 that things is worthless (so is the rear facing one...lol).
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Ehm... yeah... 'Transformer has the better (and wide)screen for videos, can give the full web experience (with flash), no need to recode videos and plays just about anything you throw at it. The camera is a lot better as well. So... it's a tie!'
Nuff said, ipad and transformer both are excellent tablets (simply depending on the type of user) but the point above makes sure I can't take anything said seriously anymore.
Funny thing is, I was playing with an iPad 2 the other day, and I didn't find it more intuitive in the slightest. In fact, I found it kind of confusing, particularly the multitouch gestures. I think ICS catches up with iOS, and provides more functionality to boot.
This whole "iOS is more intuitive" meme has got to go. It's no longer true in any meaningful sense, I think.
yeah this comparison is a joke. I'm embarrassed for CNET over this.
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Funny thing is, I was playing with an iPad 2 the other day, and I didn't find it more intuitive in the slightest. In fact, I found it kind of confusing, particularly the multitouch gestures. I think ICS catches up with iOS, and provides more functionality to boot.
This whole "iOS is more intuitive" meme has got to go. It's no longer true in any meaningful sense, I think.
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I have both, and while ICS is the best iteration of android so far...one of the reasons people say iOS is more intuitive is that everything for the user is laid out on the home screen without having to dig into various menus that a non tech user might find confusing.
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What exactly happened with your device? Is it unusable at all right now? If you sent it in for RMA b4, send it back. If they can't get the issue right they will give you a new tablet. Just let them know how frustrated you are that you had to wait so long for first RMA only to get it back in worse condition. Plus there is a hardware fix/check the service centers will perform now to make sure your wifi antennae is connected properly or that the foil didn't shift. Needed supplies are being shipped to all service centers now.
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I sent it in for the wifi and bluetooth issue. To make a long story short they gave me a new one C10 and I have the same problem but worse. Also going to .14 made it freeze put .15 on today seems to have fixed freeze. I know this update was not for wifi and bluetooth, GPS. Anyway I told Asus I was still having the problems they said call in two weeks they have a fix I could RMA at that time. So I hope you see my frustrations thats why I got pissed at the moron that said troll when I posted. Just venting sorry

Debating on buying

Hey everyone so i'm trying decide what tablet to get, I'd had my eyes set on the galaxy tab 10.1 until while reading reviews had this one pop up. At first upon reading the specs and seen quad core I quickly shifted to this device setting how there a minor 50 difference in price. Been kinda quick browsing the q and a and seen some discerning threads about issues people are having. As a overall do most of you highly recommend this tab or is it still to new and buggy? Any direction any of the users of this can give would be greatly appreciated as a$500 investment I wanna make sure i'm not going regret it in a week.
Thanks
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As long as you don't need GPS (and you don't get a dodgey one from the factory where the wifi doesn't work) I would recommend it over any other tablet atm.
I was also debating weather to get it because of its issues but I don't regret my purchase at all
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How do you plan on using the tablet?
Well I travel alot so movies, games, then for work, pdfs,, emails, Web browsing. Basically lap top replacement for on the road tired carrying bulky lap top around.
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Well I travel alot so movies, games, then for work, pdfs,, emails, Web browsing. Basically lap top replacement for on the road tired carrying bulky lap top around.
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Never used the gtab personally but my prime is great for all of the above. Really its great for anything I use it for, haven't found a need for GPS yet so it hasn't been an issue for me.
I get my prime a week ago and a can say only waau this thnig is so fast the display is perfect wifi works perfectly beter than on my htc hd2 but the gps isnt good the satelite fix takes to long if i fortunately get more then 3 satelites but i dont wont to use 10 inch screen for navigation so for me is prime the best portable device
Got mine yesterday and have gold one with no gps at all. Screen light bleed from the right hand side of screen and 2 dead pixels. Apart from that its great lol.
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Ah, the daily "should I buy" thread. It's amazing how many people use the internet but have no clue how to search.
Galaxy tab tab has outdated hardware n no expandable memory. Prime is a far better value and the specs blow the tabs away. Read the positive transformer thread in my signature and also check out a thread in general called List what works great on your prime.
Awesome guys thanks for your input.I'll give you thanks when I get on from my comp. Reading reviews on CNET is one thing but to here from people who are actually using it is very helpful. and to the one troll I didn't force you to read this so take your keyboard bad ass elsewhere.
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Also one other thing, been reading about allot of bricked tablets. from personal experience how difficult is this thing to root and flash? Like scale 1-10, 10 being hardest. I'm not asking for a how to as I know where to go for that. my gs2 was simple as hell and chances for brick was mainly user error like flashing wrong ROM. So just lil heads up on actually rooting experience would be helpful in sealing my decision for this monster tab.
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Also one other thing, been reading about allot of bricked tablets. from personal experience how difficult is this thing to root and flash? Like scale 1-10, 10 being hardest. I'm not asking for a how to as I know where to go for that. my gs2 was simple as hell and chances for brick was mainly user error like flashing wrong ROM. So just lil heads up on actually rooting experience would be helpful in sealing my decision for this monster tab.
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rooting is so simple. viperMOD PrimeTime, is the easiest way to root its a one click root. so far i have used it probably 10 times.... the ota updates cancel out your root
Also i'm curious, seems to me that the GPS issue wouldn't really be much of one. For one like other guy mentioned who needs a 10 in GPS, also since these aren't carrier specific they use wifi. So you have to tether your phone wifi to the tablet..be easier just using your phone GPS from the beginning even if GPS did work properly....
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Agreed. But...
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I get my prime a week ago and a can say only waau this thnig is so fast the display is perfect wifi works perfectly beter than on my htc hd2 but the gps isnt good the satelite fix takes to long if i fortunately get more then 3 satelites but i dont wont to use 10 inch screen for navigation so for me is prime the best portable device
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Agreed that navigation is pointless on a device like this, but what about apps that use your location like facebook check ins, geotagging photos, foursquare, viber(sends location in messages), google+, etc.
Are there any problems with apps like these?
For me getting a gps fix for apps that need it (not navigation) is important.
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Agreed that navigation is pointless on a device like this, but what about apps that use your location like facebook check ins, geotagging photos, foursquare, viber(sends location in messages), google+, etc.
Are there any problems with apps like these?
For me getting a gps fix for apps that need it (not navigation) is important.
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Your device locates you based on the IP address location. This is not a specific location as it only points to a nearby ISP server.
I think from what I've heard, GPS works fine with the ICS update.
There's nothing wrong with the guy trying to find as much info as he possibly can before making a major purchase like this. For some people tossing 500+ on a gadget s a major purchase, and they like to be sure about it.
I'm the same way, I'm a college student and I never buy anything expensive without a lot of research.
Anyways... This thing rocks.
Yes there are some issues, but what device doesn't have them? nothing is perfect.
Asus may not have the best customer support, but they will take care of you if you get a bad unit with the major issues you've seen people post about on the forum.
Also remember - people always post about problems, not about how well their device is working.
I just got mine 3 days ago and I am in love with it. I haven't touched my laptop once, and I am strongly considering selling it. This little device can pretty much do everything a laptop can with the dock.
And now that we can unlock the Primes, the sky is the limit with what the devs will come up with as far as custom roms, kernels, and modifications.
If you plan on buying it, I highly recommend the dock, it adds so much more functionality to it, plus the extra battery life is amazing.
Otherwise, you wont regret it, this is truly an awesome tablet, and blows everything else on the market out of the water right now.
I bought mine a week ago and love it, if you have best buy near by, they usally have the TF101 and TF201 side by side, play on both of them, the answer will be obvious in about 2 minute... G_tab have the same processor as TF101 I think...
Thank you guys! I was thinking about getting one, but the problem is, I live in Brazil, and the Prime is not for sale here yet (only in black market, but they cost 4 times the US price). As I don't use GPS much, guess I'll grab one.
But searching on line I found there are few stores selling it, makes me wonder why...
Microcenter would be a nice place to buy, US$ 50 less than in bestbuy.

Is the Transformer Prime worth the buy?

Obviously it's the most "powerful" in terms of pure processing power and GPU as far as Android tablets go. But is the problems worth not buying? I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here. My question is if I leave it stock would I have some stupid issue's? I dont use bluetooth or GPS on a tablet so..
I posted this on the OG transformer forum by accident.
I KNOW there is a new TF coming out in June that will fix these issue's... But as of NOW is this a safe buy if I won't be rooting ? I will still be getting the new one later.. But need a tablet and cannot see myself going to garbage Tegra2.
Is H.profile video decoded easily with the Tegra3 vs.the 2?
Is it worth buying....?
In a word.... yes
After ASUS fixes the problems with Wifi and WiFi + BT it will be a great buy. Before that, no.
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After ASUS fixes the problems with Wifi and WiFi + BT it will be a great buy. Before that, no.
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What problems with "WiFi" from what i've heard there are only WiFi+BT issues
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What problems with "WiFi" from what i've heard there are only WiFi+BT issues
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I think he was talking about poor wifi performance in some cases. I have a C10KAS that I'll hopefully return today since I can't do anything beyond 20 ft from the router. I'll try to land on a C20KAS which apparently of no issues at all on this.
@jamaicansolja: I dont get it either There are some people that have some issues with wifi stability as it seems. The same thing you see with any device in this format especially the ipad.
I didnt have any of those problems though. I always have about exactly the same connection as my phone (DesireHD, also made out of aluminum with plastic cut outs). (see attachment)
Should you get the prime? Its the best Tablet out there. So yeah go ahead I certainly am really happy with it. Of course that will change in the future, but atm there is nothing even close. And i dont think the ipad 3 will change that because iOS will stay iOS... But thats personal preference.
Same location, 7-8m away from the router (24ft?) 2 Walls in between.
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Jesus...another thread like this? really?
It's pretty crazy how people are posting on a forum for the tech savvy people but have no clue how to do a search.
This message board really needs some mods.
simple answer yes. just look at the thread in my signature called Positive transformer thread. all your worries will cease afterwards .
If you don't need to take handwritten notes on it, yes it is a very good tablet. I which, there was a digitizer pen that works on the Transformer Prime.
Look dude, what you have to understand is the XDA forums (at least for the prime) has a higher concentration of people who have for whatever reason gotten bad primes. This is most likely because they are looking for answers. The prime is FLYING off the shelf and people who are happy aren't going to be as vocal as people who aren't.
I'm on my second prime and both have been great. The HDMI out port died on my first one, however, I dropped it off the back of the couch onto my kids tricycle so that may have had something to do with it.
I have never had a wifi issue at all. I get full strength in most parts of my house (I have 1.5mbps DSL connection and speed test puts my connection at 1.2mbps). The GPS on it is hit or miss, my first one didn't really work but my second (C1 s/n) works a bit better. If you want a GPS that works on the road though......put your had in your pocket and take out your phone. I've never had any random reboots with either of them. In short I've never had any problems. Its the fastest tablet out there and the best on the market. The keyboard dock is what really gives its edge. I was without one for two days and contemplated getting another until I realized there wasn't one that did everything the prime did.
If enough people complain and send their primes in for GPS issues and the problem becomes a hassle for the company they will offer a fix....I think there was a thread on here saying as much.
BUY ONE!
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If you don't need to take handwritten notes on it, yes it is a very good tablet. I which, there was a digitizer pen that works on the Transformer Prime.
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Why shouldn't you use it for handwriting?
I actually ordered mine for handwriting.
It's a notebook computer (with the dock) and a tablet. There's none like it. I don't need GPS on it cause I have 10 other GPS devices. Wifi is fine on mine, not any weaker than my HTC evo 3d. The good part is it can be as smooth as fast as ipad2 with a custom rom. I'm running virtuous rom. I can't complain its more sluggish or slower than ipad2 now. Functionalities on the TFP just blow ipad dead in the water. Just the browser alone is enough reason to get the TFP over the ipad2. Text reflow, flash support, bookmarks sync with chrome on your pc, quick controls on the stock browser or ice browser+ make safari look so dated, dynamically request desktop view. Complete sweatness. I don't have to go in other details of ice and android's goodness. I purposely compare it to ipad2 cause that's the strongest contender to TFP. I don't think there's a better android tablet out there.
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the XDA forums (at least for the prime) has a higher concentration of people who have for whatever reason gotten bad primes.
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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Are you serious can you not read and comprehend a simple paragraph. I said that the XDA forums have a higher concentration of people who have problems with their primes because they come here looking for answers.....not that asus sent bad ones only to xda members.
You know because this is a tech forum and if people with electronics have issues they come to sites like these to seek answers.....therefore these forums could have a higher concentration of people with complaints. I didn't think that needed to be explained
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Yes. ASUS strategically shipped all the defective devices to XDA forum members. I, for one, exchanged it 3 times and my 4th unit is also defective. Perhaps I'll ask a friend who is not a forum member to buy one for me so I get a working unit.
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I think you need to reread what he wrote since you clearly misunderstood. It happens to the best of us.
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