Android phone with no bootloader? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just looking for some clarification...I got a samsung transform ultra, and rooted using the one-click method at androidforums. I have been frequenting androidforums since xda doesn't have a section for my phone. After a conversation with a friend I wanted to make sure my phone was "s-off" and not just partial root, but could not find bootloader to check...so I asked on androidforums at the rooting thread and I was told our phone doesn't HAVE a bootloader...I guess I don't understand this concept of no bootloader, is that right? Or possible? I just thought an android phone had to have that, how does it operate without a bootloader? How do I use fastboot without it? Someone please clarify! I'm having trouble understanding this concept, I guess...I've been with android since the G1 and every android phone I've ever had since then has had a bootloader...does my phone really not need or have a bootloader? Can I still do everything the same? I mean it looks that way, I have clockworkmod installed and I can flash roms and all that, but that's something I thought all androids had to have...is it because this is a CDMA device? Cus all I've ever had was tmobile GSM/HSPA+ devices, and this is my first CDMA device, I dunno if that has anything to do with anything...if someone could help me understand this it'd be great...
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bump...still trying to figure this out...any help?
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All devices with a OS have a bootloader, but some just can't be accessed
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DarkhShadow said:
All devices with a OS have a bootloader, but some just can't be accessed
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F-in' THANK YOU! I knew I wasn't crazy...that's what I thought, too. Man, I wish xda would put up a forum for my device, cus there are only two devs at androidforums and the rest are all noobs...like ubernoobs, the kind that will try to tell you an android phone doesn't have a bootloader..., and its DEAD all the damn time...I don't even think the forum for this device is more than two pages of threads...its a friggin ghost town...damn I miss xda!
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So now how do I fastboot my device? Anybody?
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same problem here.. no bootloader after formatting.. but there is custom recovery and i can flash roms... i hope anyone help me to reinstall hboot... my device is htc 816g dual

Your bootloader is just probably unaccessable or requires another way of accesing it that you dont know as of rn and might be hidden. There is no way you guys dont have a bootloader.

my devices also after rooting shows a plain white screen instead of bootloader. thought that twrp would do the work.. but then i found out any method to install twrp requires bootloader. there was only one hope that twrp could be installed in rooted devices without need of bootloader. but i removed my root by an unroot application.. now i am trapped

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HTC ChaCha - Increase internal memory

Hello there. I've got a new HTC ChaCha, the only problem is that its internal memory is 150 MB.
This sucks. I've not been able to find a way to do it as stuff that are compatible with it are really few. I'm really new to Android. I've got the phone for only 2 days. It's true that I adore it, but that memory problem really sucks.
I've seen that there's a way to do so through rooting. Is this the only way to do so? And if that's true, then how?
My carrier is Vodafone by the way. It's unlocked but not rooted.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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The telnet thing didn't work. I'm trying z4root now but it's just stuck at "Running exploit in order to obtain root access...". The rotating thing is really buggy.
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The telnet thing didn't work. I'm trying z4root now but it's just stuck at "Running exploit in order to obtain root access...". The rotating thing is really buggy.
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Find the HTC ChaCha section in the forums, since this is a HTC phone the bootloader has been locked down.
So if you want root you must unlock this bootloader
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Android Version: 2.3.5
Software Version: 1.57.415.4
EDIT: @Frank, Yea I saw that. Someone told me that if it's SIM Unlocked I can download any RUU. I don't know which one to download.
Shall a mod move the topic please to the HTC section then?
A friend helped me with this ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449681 ) topic and I successfully unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Superuser though says No apps on superuser list. BusyBox doesn't successfully install when I press the install button at the app (not the market), and Titanium Backup doesn't start. I tried using a terminal with su, su is not found.
Now I'm stuck with recovery. I do that fastboot thing, then go to bootloader menu, choose recovery, and I'm stuck forever at the HTC logo...
I've unlocked the bootloader and tried to root it. I've had a problem though as it's S-ON although any SIM works with it. I don't know how to resolve this...
TheNavigat said:
I've unlocked the bootloader and tried to root it. I've had a problem though as it's S-ON although any SIM works with it. I don't know how to resolve this...
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Ask around in the ChaCha forums, they know more .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803584

looking to help a friend root her evo

Just a quick question why are there two dev sections for this device? what is the difference? is one for the older gb and froyo roms and the new for ICS and soon to be jellybean? I am looking into how to root this for a friend. I have a samsung gs2 with an unlocked bootloader I have never rooted a phone with a locked bootloader. So how do you guys go about this? For my phone I have a pc program called odin that does low level flashing so all I do is use it to install cloclworkmod or twrp and then flash su and install the.apk and busybox. Is there sometihng similar for this phone or does everything have to be done by ADB? If someone explains which dev section I should go to I will figure it out myself but the more info yoy guys can give me the better. I do still have to find out what software my friend has. I also want her to do this by herself so I want to be able to explain it to her. Thanks in advance.
Use this. It's doesn't it all for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
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mojorisin7178 said:
Just a quick question why are there two dev sections for this device? what is the difference? is one for the older gb and froyo roms and the new for ICS and soon to be jellybean? I am looking into how to root this for a friend. I have a samsung gs2 with an unlocked bootloader I have never rooted a phone with a locked bootloader. So how do you guys go about this? For my phone I have a pc program called odin that does low level flashing so all I do is use it to install cloclworkmod or twrp and then flash su and install the.apk and busybox. Is there sometihng similar for this phone or does everything have to be done by ADB? If someone explains which dev section I should go to I will figure it out myself but the more info yoy guys can give me the better. I do still have to find out what software my friend has. I also want her to do this by herself so I want to be able to explain it to her. Thanks in advance.
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The Android Development and Original Android Development forums are organized pretty much as they sound: Original Development will have threads for programs, mods, roms, kernels, etc. that are the original work of the developer. Android Development has threads for those that are built off of someone else's existing work (e.g. A rom that is a collection of tweaks pulled from other roms). I agree with the previous poster on using regawMOD, it is the simplest way to unlock the bootloader, flash a recovery and gain root access all at once. That being said, if your friend is on 1.22.651.3, there is an additional step to manually move the root package to the sd card. Read page 80-84 on the dev's thread for more info.
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There's a sticky that explains everything right at the top of the original development forum. Can't miss it. It's always there
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Thank you to everyone that answered I looked around after I posted and saw that all in one app to do the whole process that is cool I figured that would be the way to go. I will Be a let to root this phone with no problem. I gotta say we have come a long way from entering adb commands to push things to a phone to just a click and boom everything is done the beauty of xda.
mojorisin7178 said:
Thank you to everyone that answered I looked around after I posted and saw that all in one app to do the whole process that is cool I figured that would be the way to go. I will Be a let to root this phone with no problem. I gotta say we have come a long way from entering adb commands to push things to a phone to just a click and boom everything is done the beauty of xda.
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Just use the evo lte toolbox and do htcdev unlock. It's a little more complicating then odin l,Odin is more like using an RUU and turning it into a kitchen to flash modified roms
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New user... Couple of questions.. Thanks!

Hey guys,
I just got this device and I'm loving it so far... I'm a T-Mobile customer, so I'm looking to flash a tmobile radio and Rom. The thing is I bought this from someone who used a toolkit to root it and unlock the bootloader. It's also running insert coin Rom and twrp.. I know nothing else is done besides that. This is my first non Samsung device, and Im used to the simplicity of Odin , I really dont want to screw anything up... Anyone have some advice? Thanks in advance...
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I am probably not certified to answer this question. But my suggestion is-
You are searching here ( your best bet) so maybe search youtube for how to video's on "un"rooting and going back to stock. They normally have links to downloads that you need.
what is wrong with just leaving it unlocked and rooted, just flashing a different rom?
capcanuck said:
Hey guys,
I just got this device and I'm loving it so far... I'm a T-Mobile customer, so I'm looking to flash a tmobile radio and Rom. The thing is I bought this from someone who used a toolkit to root it and unlock the bootloader. It's also running insert coin Rom and twrp.. I know nothing else is done besides that. This is my first non Samsung device, and Im used to the simplicity of Odin , I really dont want to screw anything up... Anyone have some advice? Thanks in advance...
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This will get you back to near stock T-mo >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2281943
your best off to stay away from a radio update unless your having a problem.
Leave the recovery as is for now till you learn more about your phone
make a backup from TWRP and store it in a safe place (other than on the phone) before you go flashing roms (just a good practice anytime)
all the popular roms in the international section will work on your phone, Android Revolution HD, TrickDroid, insertcoin ...etc, just take your time and read a lot
Thanks for the suggestions guys... So even though I'm s-on, I can still flash a different Rom?
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capcanuck said:
Thanks for the suggestions guys... So even though I'm s-on, I can still flash a different Rom?
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yes
you can flash anything from tmo,at&t, and international forums

[Q] Don't know what's wrong...

I'm new to rooting and the whole android scene. Just bought my s4 a month ago and rooted it this week. I've been trying to customize themes and icons and I know I need to deodex the files on my phone. I downloaded universal deodexer and dropped the files where I needed to but the program wouldn't run. My question is, is there any other way to deodex the files and how exactly do I locate them? Maybe I didn't locate the right ones.
First off, its pretty cool that you are actually trying to learn what you are doing. The initial learning curve is pretty big but you will get the hang of it piece by piece. I can't speak for everyone but I as still learning and started with the Droid years ago. Take a look at this post for some useful info. Credit to Obsidian for the definitions and links. Just take note that some of his definition do not apply to this phone since it was created for the Bionic, but most of the info is helpful and universal.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/28127-ob...omsrootwipthreadsguidessafestrap/#entry751016
Now, to answer your question. Honestly I would flash a pre-deodexed rom and use it to modify things. A few are in the Samsung Development section that are basically TouchWiz minus the bloat. You may even find one there that suits you perfectly with no extra modding.
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Yea I was trying to learn. Then I bricked my phone by trying to install a new font. Now waiting for a replacement.
unbrick...
Anthony825 said:
Yea I was trying to learn. Then I bricked my phone by trying to install a new font. Now waiting for a replacement.
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check out the youtube channel of DroidModd3rX... find his video titled "Verizon Galaxy S4 How To Unbrick, Unroot, Return to Factory Set"... even if you don't have a Verizon GS4 this will help you if you bricked your device. If you have a different Carrier than verizon then check out "wwjoshdew" channel on youtube........ check out his video titled "How To Unroot and Flash your Galaxy S4 to Stock Android 4.2.2"..... I'm sorry i didn't find you earlier.:crying: ........ this might help you to not pay where you "voided your warranty... please please please do this if you can get your phone back from the company. It will re-warranty your device.
It's ok, I found that video on you tube, and a couple others. I tried all their methods for I bricking, but to no avail. Now all it says is "firmware upgrade error. Please continue in Kies". But it won't let me do anything else.
Anthony825 said:
It's ok, I found that video on you tube, and a couple others. I tried all their methods for I bricking, but to no avail. Now all it says is "firmware upgrade error. Please continue in Kies". But it won't let me do anything else.
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Even ODIN?
Yea i tried Odin, 3.07 and I tried three different stock images and none of them worked. It got to a part during the process that said "Auth (fail)" and then it would close out the program. I just got my replacement yesterday but I'm kind of afraid to root it again lol.
Although I would really like to root it again, since half of the stuff I used it for had nothing to do with what caused the problem in the first place. I was just really excited to download and install a custom room that didn't lag as much as this nonsense from Samsung.
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Although I would really like to root it again, since half of the stuff I used it for had nothing to do with what caused the problem in the first place. I was just really excited to download and install a custom room that didn't lag as much as this nonsense from Samsung.
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Your original problem sounded like you were trying to flash the mdk firmware on a me7 firmware which would cause auth fail in odin.
But I couldnt find any info above. If you did the the me7 root method you wont have write permissions because boot loader is locked. which would brick your phone when you flash a rom.
Is the me7 root method the one that roots through the micro SD? Is there a way to do so and unlock the bootloader currently or has one not been released yet for the newest Verizon update?
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Anthony825 said:
Is the me7 root method the one that roots through the micro SD? Is there a way to do so and unlock the bootloader currently or has one not been released yet for the newest Verizon update?
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if you did it through terminal then yes. you are on me7 which is why odin gave you problems. currently there is no way to unlock the bootloader. only the firmware previous to me7 can unlock it. So you might be stuck for a while.
Well that's kind of a drag. Installing custom ROMs is the only thing that an unlocked bootloader does? Or is there another reason to root the phone now instead of waiting for a root that unlocks it? Sorry for all of the questions...
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update when you got your phone?
Anthony825 said:
Is the me7 root method the one that roots through the micro SD? Is there a way to do so and unlock the bootloader currently or has one not been released yet for the newest Verizon update?
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did you update to the new update that the phone was bugging you about when you first got your phone? if yes, then, YOU CANNOT FLASH ANYTHING! OR IT WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE. if you haven't, then, thank the good Lord that you didn't fall into the samsung trap. you can check on Settings/mydevice/about_phone/Build_Number.... i believe the last frace would say me7... if then, you're kinda screwed for now... if you have something else than youre ok:good:... If you're verizon you WANT TO HAVE "MDK" as your last 3 characters on your build number. MDK=:angel: ......Good luck!:laugh:
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Well that's kind of a drag. Installing custom ROMs is the only thing that an unlocked bootloader does? Or is there another reason to root the phone now instead of waiting for a root that unlocks it? Sorry for all of the questions...
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root still lets you uninstall or freeze that bloatware on your phone. Only thing I used iy for anyways. have about an extra 400mb of ram freed.
Well that is good to know in case I decide to go through with rooting again. Is there a way to uninstall that update? Or am I stuck waiting for a new method to root the phone that allows flashing? I might root again just to have some of the apps like gmd gesture and greenify.
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Anthony825 said:
Well that is good to know in case I decide to go through with rooting again. Is there a way to uninstall that update? Or am I stuck waiting for a new method to root the phone that allows flashing? I might root again just to have some of the apps like gmd gesture and greenify.
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no you cant do anything right now besides the root. cant uninstall because the bootloader is locked.
some rooted apps are nice to have. just gonna have to wait patiently
In that case, are there any apps you would suggest getting that won't destroy my phone again? I checked online for a list of must-have apps but half of them were directed at people who were experienced with rooting.
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Anthony825 said:
In that case, are there any apps you would suggest getting that won't destroy my phone again? I checked online for a list of must-have apps but half of them were directed at people who were experienced with rooting.
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I would just get titanium backup for now. and remove some bloatware a safelist can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314265 would not experiment with deleting random things it could cause brick problems nothing much else. if you are not comfortablr with that just try and wait for bootloader to be unlocked which has no eta
I may just do that. If I were to root again on me7 since there's no unlock method, if one were to be released would I be screwed or is there normally a way to do that at a different time than the root?
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[Q] HTC One X+ Stock Rom WITHOUT root

Hello,
I've just bought an fresh new HTC One X+ 64GB (last stock from HTC probably, it was very cheap , just 150€)
It bring the ROMv4.1.2 that I like very much
Somehow the phone gets updated via WI-fi to ROM v4.2.2
The reason why I post again this topic is because I've searched and searched to revert to v4.1.2 and always read the word Impossible!!!
The phone heats a lot, the battery lost capacity and I HATE HATE and HATE the ROM v4.2.2.
The question that I leave here to you guys, is really IMPOSSIBLE TO revert to Original ROMof my phone WITHOUT ROOT?
As the phone is quite new, I don't want to lose the warranty!
I've seen a lot of videos on youtube saying stock rom without root, but they use the fastboot, that it seam to be the ROOT!
I've rooted already my Samsung ACE2 and updated using Odin, but on HTC I'm quite newbie.
Can anyone help.
thanks in advance,
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Hello,
I've just bought an fresh new HTC One X+ 64GB (last stock from HTC probably, it was very cheap , just 150€)
It bring the ROMv4.1.2 that I like very much
Somehow the phone gets updated via WI-fi to ROM v4.2.2
The reason why I post again this topic is because I've searched and searched to revert to v4.1.2 and always read the word Impossible!!!
The phone heats a lot, the battery lost capacity and I HATE HATE and HATE the ROM v4.2.2.
The question that I leave here to you guys, is really IMPOSSIBLE TO revert to Original ROMof my phone WITHOUT ROOT?
As the phone is quite new, I don't want to lose the warranty!
I've seen a lot of videos on youtube saying stock rom without root, but they use the fastboot, that it seam to be the ROOT!
I've rooted already my Samsung ACE2 and updated using Odin, but on HTC I'm quite newbie.
Can anyone help.
thanks in advance,
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i have seen something floating around when i was looking, but i cant tell you how reliable it is :/
i360droid said:
i have seen something floating around when i was looking, but i cant tell you how reliable it is :/
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Hi,
Thanks for you reply
Just an additional info:
Today I've called to HTC Portugal, and received an very negative feedback.
Means that they are not able to downgrade to v4.1.2!!!!
This is annoying to me and unacceptable for me.
Why I can't get my phone back as I purchased?!!!!
I still on the way to press HTC Portugal, but seems to get some resistance.
I really like the word "impossible" in software matters!
HTC is giving me and different opinion now, at least in Portugal!
Can anyone inform if fastboot for HTC is the same has the so called ROOT?
Until now I've no certainty!
I've read posts saying "downgrade without ROOT" and using fastboot!!!
I'm afraid if using fastboot that lost the warranty!!!!
helxdadevelopers said:
Can anyone inform if fastboot for HTC is the same has the so called ROOT?
Until now I've no certainty!
I've read posts saying "downgrade without ROOT" and using fastboot!!!
I'm afraid if using fastboot that lost the warranty!!!!
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The thing is you cannot downgrade HBOOT ( the bootloader) and thus you cannot downgrade to 4.1.2
if you want to, install the android rev 8 HD rom, it is essentially sense 5 4.2.2, but i think you can set it to install without like root and xposed
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The thing is you cannot downgrade HBOOT ( the bootloader) and thus you cannot downgrade to 4.1.2
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Thanks for the direct answer
I was wondering that some how possible to downgrade!
Probably that's why HTC Portugal says they won't Downgrade! Not because they don't want to, but because is technically impossible!
Thanks
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if you want to, install the android rev 8 HD rom, it is essentially sense 5 4.2.2, but i think you can set it to install without like root and xposed
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Hi, I will dig on that
thanks

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