Hi every 1 I did not search and don't know if any1 has posted this but on my Droidx2 I found that u do not need the use the bootstrap app to get into cwm recovery if ur phone is off and u plugg it into AC power and when the Motorola screen comes on unplug wait for a few seconds and plug AC power back in and it will boot into cwm recovery.
hope this helps if no1 new this lol
Yes pwr off & plug in = cwr as long as recovery mode is set. Rebooting no.
sen1366 said:
Hi every 1 I did not search and don't know if any1 has posted this but on my Droidx2 I found that u do not need the use the bootstrap app to get into cwm recovery if ur phone is off and u plugg it into AC power and when the Motorola screen comes on unplug wait for a few seconds and plug AC power back in and it will boot into cwm recovery.
hope this helps if no1 new this lol
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u don't need to unplug when u see the moto logo
if recovery mode is set all u need to do is
power off and plug in as said above
it does this because our recovery hijacks charge only mode, its the only way we can boot into BSR at this time
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sen1366 said:
Hi every 1 I did not search and don't know if any1 has posted this but on my Droidx2 I found that u do not need the use the bootstrap app to get into cwm recovery if ur phone is off and u plugg it into AC power and when the Motorola screen comes on unplug wait for a few seconds and plug AC power back in and it will boot into cwm recovery.
hope this helps if no1 new this lol
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Note: To clarify potential confusion... The BSR (Boot Strap Recovery) is NOT the same as CWM or CWMR (ClockWorkMod or ClockWorkModRecovery). PLEASE use the correct terms to avoid confusing people. Thank you! (Sorry, pet peeve. )
Ciao!
Okay, call me stupid here, but I thought CWM didn't work with the X2? I saw another post that explained how to do it, but it confused the living hell out of me!
What are the advantages of using CWM over BSR or am I reading something wrong here?
Thanks!
To me it (ours 2.5.1.8) is a hacked version never written to be installed by an apk. They all come from cwm. Once you are in cwr you can flash a different "cwr".zip.
Whether it successfully restores your bu ONLY Tenfar has hacked one that works for the (locked BL versions of the phones) Atrix, Photon and the Dx2 and they are all the same "cwr".zip!
Ibolski are you referring to my "wish" post?
It's CWM ported to our phones. Nothing more, nothing less. It's the same thing except we have to connect our phones to a wall charger. Otherwise, once you're in there, it's the same. Looks the same, the whole works. I have CWM on a couple devices here and there isn't any difference. Perhaps some of the options don't work for the X2 but, it's still the same thing. Can you tell I'm trying to tell you that it's the same?
Thanks for the responses. I'll stick with BSR then. It just seems people were so gung-ho about CWMR and I can't see why as there isn't a clear advantage to it over BSR.
I just had an idea. How about, instead of replacing charge mode, replace stock recovery and add an option in CWM to go into the stock recovery if needed. I can't do any of it but if a developer wants the challenge.
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skwoodwiva said:
To me it (ours 2.5.1.8) is a hacked version never written to be installed by an apk. They all come from cwm. Once you are in cwr you can flash a different "cwr".zip.
Whether it successfully restores your bu ONLY Tenfar has hacked one that works for the (locked BL versions of the phones) Atrix, Photon and the Dx2 and they are all the same "cwr".zip!
Ibolski are you referring to my "wish" post?
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There is no point in using a recovery from another phone that has less options then bsr. U may be able to flash stuff like bsr but if it wont restore system there is no point in even posting it other then creating confusion when people cant nandroid back after something goes wrong. Save yourself a lot of issues people use bsr and deal with pluging it in. Its functional where the alternatives are not.
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weldawadyathink said:
I just had an idea. How about, instead of replacing charge mode, replace stock recovery and add an option in CWM to go into the stock recovery if needed. I can't do any of it but if a developer wants the challenge.
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If this was possibke it would be done already
(Oops I ment) motcher41 .
You are missing my boat! The old Atrix, the Photon and the Dx2 bootstrap.apk are the same files/apks. The photon and ours have the same md5 sums.
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iBolski.
You are missing my boat! The old Atrix, the Photon and the Dx2 bootstrap.apk are the same files/apks. The photon and ours have the same md5 sums.
I was only saying this to show YOU that these are the only ones that are alternatives yet they are the same.
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After all, everything everyone said...I'm jittering...need to flash something new...omg!!! Calling VZW now for warranty alternative...lol
SMILE It's Not Illegal Yet
skwoodwiva said:
(Oops I ment) motcher41 .
You are missing my boat! The old Atrix, the Photon and the Dx2 bootstrap.apk are the same files/apks. The photon and ours have the same md5 sums.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22610152
That's the thread post I was refering to mainly
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ashclepdia said:
If this was possibke it would be done already
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Where does the rom manager one install?
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Where does the rom manager one install?
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If my memory serves me correctly... which it rarely does lol... because of the locked bootloader the install fails. Stock recovery is in the bootloader and we cannot modify the bootloader so we can't install recovery. Or does install but the bootloader overrides it and brings us to stock. Something like that.. vodka is making it all foggy lol I'm pretty sure that's close though
Actually i think somewhere in the system... preinstall I think. But our locked bootloader is why it does not work and cannot work. That I remember for sure
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Where does the rom manager one install?
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Where RM puts the recovery IDNK but it's not preinstall.
BTW
Tenfar was one smart cookie getting cwr working w/ one apk on 3 different phones.
Moltcher41
my post about a the the newer atrix recovery WAS in response to a MX2 Q about RECOVERY SAVING AS TARBALLS and they could not get a working recovery anyway.
Now some Mx2's can use ReRecovery manually as a work around.
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I have flashed lots of foreign recoveries - no problem as I never install them. They run in the same environment created by our bsr.
But using Rom Manager to install any recovery, other than the still non-functioning dx2, will require an sbf.
nope.
ashclepdia said:
u don't need to unplug when u see the moto logo
if recovery mode is set all u need to do is
power off and plug in as said above
it does this because our recovery hijacks charge only mode, its the only way we can boot into BSR at this time
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the power thing doesn't work..
cnsd said:
the power thing doesn't work..
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then you are doing it wrong
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We've tested and can confirm this bootstrap recovery is working. Thank you to bane449 for testing. The recovery is a straight APK pull from the Droid X2. Worked thanks to the similarities between devices.
Instructions and download:
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-photon-4g-root-custom-recovery-now-available
Looks successful to me: DroidX2 Recovery GFAN.COM V2.5.1.8
And it booted back into Android properly, even
So what will this allow me to do? What are its advantages? What are the risks?
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So what will this allow me to do? What are its advantages? What are the risks?
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CWM allows users to easily install unsigned update packages. This will open up the Photon to pseudo-ROMs, all sorts of modifications, and more.
Forgive my ignorance but what is a "pseudo-Rom"?
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CWM allows users to easily install unsigned update packages. This will open up the Photon to pseudo-ROMs, all sorts of modifications, and more.
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I know what ROM's are, never heard anyone say psuedo-ROM.
Lokifish Marz said:
Custom ROMs (if available for the Photon) like MIUI, CM7 etc...
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mikeyinid said:
I know what ROM's are, never heard anyone say psuedo-ROM.
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Psuedo meaning "not really" a ROM. A locked bootloader will prevent true custom ROMs, but P-ROMs will be possible.
P-ROMs are based off of stock files and modifications. They don't replace the kernel or modem.
Yup i installed this and rebooted into recovery mode. It worked just fine for me. What happens if Sprint releases an OTA update? Can i recover root access or downgrade with this? Sounds like I can't because I can't modify the kernel.
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I can't seem to get mine to reboot into CWM. I run the apk, hit install recovery, says installed sucessfully, hit recovery mode and it reboots back into system.
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I can't seem to get mine to reboot into CWM. I run the apk, hit install recovery, says installed sucessfully, hit recovery mode and it reboots back into system.
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Make sure your device is plugged into the wall charger when you do Reboot Recovery. That's the only way it'll work since it's a bootstrap recovery.
kennethpenn said:
Make sure your device is plugged into the wall charger when you do Reboot Recovery. That's the only way it'll work since it's a bootstrap recovery.
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Can you explain why this is? I'm a little confused as to what makes a "bootstrap recovery" different from a regularly flashed "recovery.img".
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Can you explain why this is? I'm a little confused as to what makes a "bootstrap recovery" different from a regularly flashed "recovery.img".
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Caveats:
This is not a *real* recovery. The way this recovery works is by hijacking portions of your boot process during system initialization and starting into recovery instead. So, if you hose your system *COMPLETELY* you will need to SBF. Specifically, if your logwrapper, logwrapper.bin, or hijack binary are missing from /system/bin, you will be screwed.
This is from koush himself concerning droid x/2 bootstrap. I would seriously wait til an sbf surfaces before flashing any of these "psuedo-ROMS" or even just deleting any system apk's. Just my opinion.
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Yup i installed this and rebooted into recovery mode. It worked just fine for me. What happens if Sprint releases an OTA update? Can i recover root access or downgrade with this? Sounds like I can't because I can't modify the kernel.
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Does the phone need to be rooted first in order to installl this recovery apk?
Is this "ClockworkMod" recovery, or something else? If it's CWM, what version?
So what specifically did this do to my phone? What files were modified to allow this to run at bootup? Anybody have any info on this (just in case I want to return my phone to stock.)
mediawiz said:
Is this "ClockworkMod" recovery, or something else? If it's CWM, what version?
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This is CWM bootstrap. Original one was on the Droid X, created by Koushik Dutta. Then it was ported to the Defy. Then to the Atrix. Next, the Droid X2. Now, the Photon 4G.
V2.5.1.8
Sbf is gonna be your friend when it comes to unrooting and restoring. It will pop up soon.
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So what specifically did this do to my phone? What files were modified to allow this to run at bootup? Anybody have any info on this (just in case I want to return my phone to stock.)
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Once I'm in CWM, is it safe to unplug the charger or does it need to be connected until I exit and reboot?
beartrap said:
Once I'm in CWM, is it safe to unplug the charger or does it need to be connected until I exit and reboot?
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You can unplug.
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I keep having issues with the system recovery. I mean the Clockwork one not the stock recovery. It will never work unless i go to the system recovery app and click recovery mode. Also sometimes when switching menus, I.E. going to the backup and restore option, the menu for the next items doesn't appear. Any way to fix this? I don't want to mess up on a flash and kill my phone.
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I keep having issues with the system recovery. I mean the Clockwork one not the stock recovery. It will never work unless i go to the system recovery app and click recovery mode. Also sometimes when switching menus, I.E. going to the backup and restore option, the menu for the next items doesn't appear. Any way to fix this? I don't want to mess up on a flash and kill my phone.
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Are you clicking on the Bootstrap Recovery button before you click on Reboot Recovery?
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You mean install recovery? If so, yes. Also since no one else can answer this it seems, does Eclipse support HDMI mirroring? It's a big deal for me.
If u r talking about clockwork from rom manager them u r right it wont work.. u have to use system recovery app plugged into wall charger at same time.. the recovery we use is 2.1.5.8 or something like that.. it is an older recovery.. our device dx2 is not supported on rom manager yet and may not ever be.. if this isn't what u mean im sorry.. just trying to help u. Hope it helps
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Kevin3328 said:
If u r talking about clockwork from rom manager them u r right it wont work.. u have to use system recovery app plugged into wall charger at same time.. the recovery we use is 2.1.5.8 or something like that.. it is an older recovery.. our device dx2 is not supported on rom manager yet and may not ever be.. if this isn't what u mean im sorry.. just trying to help u. Hope it helps
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Yeah I know that. The system recovery we use is still Clockworkmod though. And yes I stay clear of rom manager. Thanks for the help on HDMI. I can't seem to get wiimotes working with this though. I can connect them but they don't work withing riptide. That's the only games I've tried them with. I can use it to interact with the phone in a limited way. Is it the key mappings?
Don't know anything about hdmi as I don't use it at all.. if you r running eclipse it could be something with the rom itself but im not sure.. hope u can find some answers to your problems though.. good luck
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Why is this in development?
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You're...half right about it being CWM. It's based off of CWM, but doesn't mean it is. Trust me, until this damn bootloader gets fixed, we're stuck with a "tethered" recovery, if you will.
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You're...half right about it being CWM. It's based off of CWM, but doesn't mean it is. Trust me, until this damn bootloader gets fixed, we're stuck with a "tethered" recovery, if you will.
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No. Until koush gets his hands on or someone gives em an x2 we r stuck tethered is what I have read over and over
ashclepdia said:
No. Until koush gets his hands on or someone gives em an x2 we r stuck tethered is what I have read over and over
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This is something id like a definitive answer on, I've been told koush can make an untethered version and I've been told it will remain tethered until bootloader is cracked. Can someone tell me the answer along with an explanation so I know you aren't talking out your ass. Hopefully dragonz or naven answers, I trust those guys response to be accurate
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swbf2lord said:
Also since no one else can answer this it seems, does Eclipse support HDMI mirroring? It's a big deal for me.
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Works a champ. Just tried it here. Watched some utube vids.
(Request sent to mods to move thread, does not belong in development)
Why still posting in the wrong forums. Thread closed.
Is there is away to flash your phone with out being plugged into an outlet?
really? LOL... no, unless you are flashing something like the 2.3.5 OTA update through stock recovery.
Well never hurts to ask...I wonder why that is.
dkahs23 said:
Well never hurts to ask...I wonder why that is.
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It has to do with having a locked bootloader curtesy of verizon. They hijack the charge boot to run the bootstrap recovery. Then when you have bootstrap recovery installed when you power off the phone and then plug it in it goes to bootstrap recovery instead of the charge screen.
Thanks for the info.
U dont.need to be.plugged in to flash per say
U only need to be.plugged in to enter BSR
Once in the bootstrapper recovery screen u can unplug your phone and go anywhere u want
just a little tidbit in case some of u didnt know about that.
ashclepdia said:
U dont.need to be.plugged in to flash per say
U only need to be.plugged in to enter BSR
Once in the bootstrapper recovery screen u can unplug your phone and go anywhere u want
just a little tidbit in case some of u didnt know about that.
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Now why is BSR programed that way?
See three posts above.
Lol yeah what he said.
It hijacks charge mode
That is te only way we have right now to get INTO BSR
Once in tho u can unplug your phone. It doesnt need to use charge hijack for anything other than entering the recovery.
ashclepdia said:
Lol yeah what he said.
It hijacks charge mode
That is te only way we have right now to get INTO BSR
Once in tho u can unplug your phone. It doesnt need to use charge hijack for anything other than entering the recovery.
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Someone is finally lurking around agian....welcome back...fully operational now I hope
Why did you have to borrow a computer to sbf anyway....you dont have one?
motcher41 said:
Someone is finally lurking around agian....welcome back...fully operational now I hope
Why did you have to borrow a computer to sbf anyway....you dont have one?
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The one i do have is on windows 98 and is absolutely worthless.
i dont even have it plugged in.
to old and runs like crap. Constantly locks up and.needs control+alt+delete to reboot which dont even work half the time. Not even worth the time to try and.make it run lol
So NO WAY would i try to sbf with it and have it lock up on.me possibily hard bricking the hell out my phone. I have enough patience to wait for a computer i.know will work.
And now that i have a laptop for a few days (maybe.longer) im gonna be doing.some testing/experiments i been waiting to do
flashing
You have to have koush's recovery. So no you cannot flash without it I don't believe. Pretty simple though.
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You have to have koush's recovery. So no you cannot flash without it I don't believe. Pretty simple though.
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if u have a "working" koushs recovery FOR X2 "official"
please share
I'm NOT trying to be a jerk...
we use a HACKED version (made for ATRIX originally)
it isnt FULLY FUNCTIONAL
but gets the job done
I am.just trying to eliminate confusion
if I have confused u then PM me OR read our stickies
I just downloaded the bootstrap recovery for dx2 it is a port and it works fine for me. I am running eclipse 1.2 rom and that rom already has the recovery installed in eclipse parts in settings.
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Just flash the eclipse rom first then you will have it. Give it a minute to boot and reboot. Patience lol. You will need it
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Ok rite to it I have the old cwr that came out along time ago for the x2, my question is, should I install or need to install the bsr the one signed for the x2 I know the one I have is originally for the atrix, but do I need to install this one or am I fine with the cwr I have now?.I'm thinking of flashing the new molten, I'm rooted, supercharged on 2.3.4.thanks in advanced......
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You need both. The ReRecovery is just a flash (zip) version of the exact same cwr. You need the original to flash the new one. They work together. So while wiping data from cwr you can flash it before reboot and renew what you just wiped away. Read the 2nd post of my thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20985756&postcount=2
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Once rebooted you can install bootstrap again if you like. They are compatible with each other.
But you will find it will still work even though its gone. Just plug in and power off. The flashed ver runs from /preinstall and will stay untill another data wipe. Then YOU GET TO FLASH IT AGAIN!
Ok thanks I appreciate the info
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We only have one BSR for the x2
Or did I miss something?
Yes we have 1 and a half.
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No two both with crutches.
Or two that are not quite one?
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Yes we have 1 and a half.
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Lol true
it is still the same bootstrap tho
Now we are able to get into it after a ROM flash or data wipe by flashing your creation.
I just can't believe it took this long for someone to create that . Good job
Now I can't wait to see if that can be baked into a ROM zip so that upon flashing a ROM, the last thing it does is install what u made so it's all just one easy step for everyone. For us forgetful types they are so used to just flashing and hitting reboot lol
Forgetting what?
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Forgetting what?
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To flash the BSR installer before pressing reboot.
If it was built into the ROM zip then no one would forget and we would have BSR available after every flash
Right. I ment a joke- forgetting...
But yes decompile the recovery binary and hack the RR in, no problem...
I should bE sleeping lol
I'm missing in my face jokes lol....good night
I have it rooted and installed safestrap. I rebooted to recovery by pressing menu button at startup, I wipe all data/cache/dalvik or w/e cache, enabled safe system, installed RAZR-ICS-AOKP-12.03.16-GSM-KANG-J.Y.Daddy from SD card.
But when I rebooted...Nothing happened, I still had my old stock rom. I've no idea whats going on, any help/tips/suggestions greatly appreciated, thank you
Safestrap is for CDMA, not GSM.
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onslaught86 said:
Safestrap is for CDMA, not GSM.
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I have safestrap on my gsm razr
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zeidof said:
I have safestrap on my gsm razr
Sliced by my Razr on Tapatalk
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But you can't boot into recovery on the gsm razr...
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JDCFH said:
But you can't boot into recovery on the gsm razr...
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err yes you can,
reaperzero said:
err yes you can,
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I thought I'd read that if you have bricked your phone that you can't boot into safe strap recovery?
I know you can boot into it normally but thought if you needed to boot into recovery if you have soft brick you can't use safe strap recovery?
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JDCFH said:
I thought I'd read that if you have bricked your phone that you can't boot into safe strap recovery?
I know you can boot into it normally but thought if you needed to boot into recovery if you have soft brick you can't use safe strap recovery?
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lets just say we know what we are doing :/ if you arent sure then by all means use the CWM on boot. i find it annoying though =_= and if any tom **** or harry gets a hold of my phone and reboots it.
it gives them the chance of factory resetting my phone.... me friends are assholes. also i did make his phone crash after that incident using prey. till today he still thinks its possessed
and on that note if you really do brick it you can always flash it over using RSD lite. well if you have the correct rom version anyway
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lets just say we know what we are doing :/ if you arent sure then by all means use the CWM on boot. i find it annoying though =_= and if any tom **** or harry gets a hold of my phone and reboots it.
it gives them the chance of factory resetting my phone.... me friends are assholes. also i did make his phone crash after that incident using prey. till today he still thinks its possessed
and on that note if you really do brick it you can always flash it over using RSD lite. well if you have the correct rom version anyway
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So is it better to use safe strap over boot strap then? How do you boot into recovery? I don't think you can boot
Into recovery using bootstrap so its kinda pointless?
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=_= why dont you go search the forums? to me you already sound you have your mind made up. and i would like to say again i can boot into recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347767
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=_= why dont you go search the forums? to me you already sound you have your mind made up. and i would like to say again i can boot into recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347767
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No need for the hostility.
I can boot in to recovery from the GUI but not from the phone being in an off state which I would think to be very useful.
So from your post it will only work properly if I flash up to 2.3.6 or if I roll back busy box?
Some guidance would be nice instead of being an ass. People like me come to these forums to learn from people who know more like yourself.
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thats what bootstrap is supposed to do. if it was cyanogen you can boot in using the power+ volume button. cwm on boot is just making sure that cwm boots up before anything else. hence if you soft brick you can restore
also all the info is already in the forum. search engine is your friend. any questions should be directed to their respective threads. as the devs who made them should be monitoring it
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