Line Level Output? - Galaxy Tab 7.7 Accessories

Hi there,
I'm looking for a line-level output for my Galaxy 7.7.
I can't seem to find anything that specifically mentions the 7.7 but have read that the 30 pin Samsung connector is compatible across all devices.
There are line level outputs on eBay (sorry, can't post links yet) that say they work with the galaxy tab P1000 and other galaxy tabs... Will these work with the 7.7?
What I would ideally like is something that will allow me to attach a USB DAC to the device to bypass the Galaxy DAC... but until we get ICS that's not going to happen (and I have my fingers crossed that ICS will actually allow for it)
Thanks,
Paul

NikonUser said:
Hi there,
I'm looking for a line-level output for my Galaxy 7.7.
I can't seem to find anything that specifically mentions the 7.7 but have read that the 30 pin Samsung connector is compatible across all devices.
There are line level outputs on eBay (sorry, can't post links yet) that say they work with the galaxy tab P1000 and other galaxy tabs... Will these work with the 7.7?
What I would ideally like is something that will allow me to attach a USB DAC to the device to bypass the Galaxy DAC... but until we get ICS that's not going to happen (and I have my fingers crossed that ICS will actually allow for it)
Thanks,
Paul
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as of ics 4.0.3 on sgs2 there is still no support for usb dac looking forward to seeing a usb dac working on adroid phones also

I bought something from amazon and got audio out. The video out does not work however. I will send it to you in a PM since this site won't let me post the link due to me having less than 8 posts.
I would absolutely LOVE a feature that bypasses the internal DAC. Is that kind of thing really available via ICS? If so ... I might have just made a mess in my pants

daigled said:
I bought something from amazon and got audio out. The video out does not work however. I will send it to you in a PM since this site won't let me post the link due to me having less than 8 posts.
I would absolutely LOVE a feature that bypasses the internal DAC. Is that kind of thing really available via ICS? If so ... I might have just made a mess in my pants
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Thanks for the link. I will check it out.
You can keep your pants mess free for now. After doing a bit of reading it appears that ICS didn't enable USB host mode for audio like everyone thought it would. It is very high on the list of official feature requests/bug reports on the google code site. If you can find it then go and vote for it. Maybe Google will listen and offer an update soon.
Fingers crossed.
Paul

Ok... you want to output sound from your tablet to other equipment, right? Start by turning the volume down in the tablet, connect the headphones output of the tablet to the input of the device you want, start raising the volume to a little bit under clipping level of your other device, or before you hear distorted sound. When you're done, just start recording or whatever you are trying to do.
Anyway, there's no point to have a digital or high quality audio output in a tablet because they're not designed for that, even if you do it before DAC, your files are compresed (MP3, etc) right? . Do you have an extremely high quality song in your device?, if you do, you're probably a sound engineer, a professional musician or an audiophile and if that's the case you'll transfer the media to a more professional device or a dedicated media player.
For example, those cellphones that have hdmi output, yes is a good idea to connect it to your TV right? now, do you think the video you are playing through it has a great sound quality? NO, specially if it's some internet video... Putting things more simple: the audio quality of the actual media that's coming out your tablet 98% of the time does not have the quality to merit a digital/high end connection.
Now, there's a brand called COWON that has the best sound quality in media players, (Yes, best sound quality by far over Aple, Samsung, Sony, you name it, this is not because I say so, do some research and you'll be surprised) they don't make Tabs sorry. So if you really are concerned about audio quality, you should convert your music to Flac instead of MP3 and go for a device like that, otherwise you are wasting your money in technology when your source doesn't have the quality to match it.
You see what I mean? a Tablet is a portable all in one device, for high end video and sound you need a more dedicated device
Do they have a cellphone or tablet with a hdmi output? what do they have in there? a Bluray movie? it would be soooo compressed that it loses the point of having a HDMI output.... why? because compression equals lower quality. So it's like having a Ferrari with bicycle wheels... Doesn't matter what the vendors tell you, to have a HDMI output in a cellphone it's just ridiculous, and whoever has it they probably use it a couple of times and they forgot about it because there's really no point on that. The only thing I can think of having a HDMI output in a tablet is maybe someone that needs to make a video presentation, maybe through a projector, something like that, and you don't need high end audio for that. The Tablet makers don't care if 1 person out of a million needs it, would you? And... Actually do they really need that? or it's more to impress their girlfriend or a neighbour? F*** That!! Right?
I'm not trying to offend anyone here, I'm just trying to help you understand that it really is pointless....
The technology will evolve eventually and we will have better audio hardware in our tablets.... and a lot more memory to have those HD files that we really can't right now...But by then,,,, are you going to enjoy that quality in a $14.99 headphones?
With all this I'm not saying be happy with the crappy sound your device could have. I actually returned a few days ago a Galaxy Player 4.0 because I didn't like it's sound quality, I'm buying (when it comes out) a Cowon Z2..... can't wait. (if I have the money by then)
Take care guys, I hope I helped a least a little...

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Ok... you want to output sound from your tablet to other equipment, right?
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Right.
Dusko75 said:
Start by turning the volume down in the tablet, connect the headphones output of the tablet to the input of the device you want, start raising the volume to a little bit under clipping level of your other device, or before you hear distorted sound. When you're done, just start recording or whatever you are trying to do.
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The whole idea of getting a line-level output would be to bypass the internal (low quality) amp of the tablet and NOT have to play around with the volume trying to avoid clipping etc
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Anyway, there's no point to have a digital or high quality audio output in a tablet because they're not designed for that, even if you do it before DAC, your files are compresed (MP3, etc) right? .
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Eer, no. They are uncompressed FLAC files.
Maybe there is no point in YOUR tablet having a digital or high quality output... but that is NOT the case for me. Ideally I would like to hook the tablet up to an external DAC and/or Headphone amp (ideally a DAC and amp) and using it as a highly mobile, high quality source to listen to some high-end headphones for when I am away from home for a while.
Dusko75 said:
Do you have an extremely high quality song in your device?, if you do, you're probably a sound engineer, a professional musician or an audiophile and if that's the case you'll transfer the media to a more professional device or a dedicated media player.
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Yes I do, and no I am not a sound engineer or a pro musician. I wouldn't consider myself an audiophile either, but I do enjoy audio and would like to do so when I am away from my home setup.
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For example, those cellphones that have hdmi output, yes is a good idea to connect it to your TV right? now, do you think the video you are playing through it has a great sound quality? NO, specially if it's some internet video... Putting things more simple: the audio quality of the actual media that's coming out your tablet 98% of the time does not have the quality to merit a digital/high end connection.
Now, there's a brand called COWON that has the best sound quality in media players, (Yes, best sound quality by far over Aple, Samsung, Sony, you name it, this is not because I say so, do some research and you'll be surprised) they don't make Tabs sorry. So if you really are concerned about audio quality, you should convert your music to Flac instead of MP3 and go for a device like that, otherwise you are wasting your money in technology when your source doesn't have the quality to match it.
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OK... I used to have a COWON D2. It was great. I now have a tablet and don't want to carry around heaps of devices and associated chargers if possible.
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You see what I mean? a Tablet is a portable all in one device, for high end
video and sound you need a more dedicated device
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No you don't. If Google would enable us to attach a USB DAC via a software update then you wouldn't need anything more than a tablet and good quality files. Failing that a line-out that bypasses the internal amp would suffice for most.
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Do they have a cellphone or tablet with a hdmi output? what do they have in there? a Bluray movie? it would be soooo compressed that it loses the point of having a HDMI output.... why? because compression equals lower quality. So it's like having a Ferrari with bicycle wheels... Doesn't matter what the vendors tell you, to have a HDMI output in a cellphone it's just ridiculous, and whoever has it they probably use it a couple of times and they forgot about it because there's really no point on that. The only thing I can think of having a HDMI output in a tablet is maybe someone that needs to make a video presentation, maybe through a projector, something like that, and you don't need high end audio for that. The Tablet makers don't care if 1 person out of a million needs it, would you? And... Actually do they really need that? or it's more to impress their girlfriend or a neighbour? F*** That!! Right?
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With high capacity storage cards it is very possible to fit a couple of uncompressed bluray movies on your phone... or even more if you compress them. You can get VERY high quality movies to fit in 5-10GB of space these days. Although I don't have a use for it, I can certainly see how people might want to hook up a phone to a big TV and watch a movie via HDMI in GREAT quality.
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I'm not trying to offend anyone here, I'm just trying to help you understand that it really is pointless....
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Certainly no offence taken here, although I think you haven't really thought about all the possibilities that all the users of tablets and phones around the world might need.
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The technology will evolve eventually and we will have better audio hardware in our tablets.... and a lot more memory to have those HD files that we really can't right now...But by then,,,, are you going to enjoy that quality in a $14.99 headphones?
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With a digital output or bypassing the little internal amplifier the quality right now is just fine. You can fit plenty on a 64GB storage card.
My headphones cost more than 30x the price you quoted.
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With all this I'm not saying be happy with the crappy sound your device could have. I actually returned a few days ago a Galaxy Player 4.0 because I didn't like it's sound quality, I'm buying (when it comes out) a Cowon Z2..... can't wait. (if I have the money by then)
Take care guys, I hope I helped a least a little...
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Not really, but thanks for taking the time to reply.
Paul

Eer, I did mention about FLAC files (yes uncompressed). mmmm.. If I'm going to to attach some other devices to extract and process the digital audio from my tab I rather use a good media player for that and wait till the audio Hardware of the (future) tabs gets to a decent level. (And yes, I know what you mean with extracting the digital signal before DAC).
I like to have different specific devices for different things. I hope that tomorrow they really get into making great sound quality hardware for this android devices (that goes to I-pod-pad too) like Cowon does, in the meantime I'm happy with other devices to get the job done. Probably that's why what you are trying to do doesn't make sense to me having so many other and better options. But as you said, that's ME.
Ironically Cowon already got into Android, but there has to be something in its hardware that makes it the best. (I don't know if its JetEffects is hardware/software or only software).
I think the big difference here is that I don't see myself doing that kind of thing with a tablet, I rather use something else. That doesn't mean I can't change my mind in the future with the (almost) everyday newer and newer technology....
Am I right and you are wrong? NO, we're both right with the way we want to do our stuff, as long as we are happy with our results.
Nice talking/discussing with you.

Someone posted this in another forum, that'll work for you if your other device supports HDMI.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005TLKR1C/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details

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[Q] Any way at all to fix my audio issues?

Finally gave up the ol iPhone 3G and "upgraded" to an SGSII. I paid a lot of money and figured it'd work, but there are two extremely niggling problems that I cannot fix.
1. No one calling me can hear me unless I use speakerphone. I did successfully fix that once with some settings accessed by typing in a number and changing a few things, but that reset when I reset my phone...I've yet to be able to fix this.
2. When listening to music on my massive Sennheiser headphones I can't hear much at all. On the iPhone if I'd even approached full volume, I woulda blown my head off, on the SGSII, even on full, Metallica sounds like a soothing lullaby.
Are there any fixes for these issues? Or are these things that perhaps are fixed simply from having a different firmware? An almost 800 dollar phone, it'd be nice if it did two basic functions without flopping.
All help is appreciated.
EDIT: Oh and forgot to mention, I know the mic works thanks to speaker phone making me heard and I know headphones/sound output can be louder because the app Volume+ or whatever boosts it fine. I just don't want to use a seperate app each time, I want a more permanant fix.
EDIT2: Okay, Poweramp works fine, and I also see types of headphones are to blame. Like the earphones that came with the phone are fine. They have 3 notches on the plug as opposed to 2. I'd say that's a fair indication. Anyway, can consider this problem solved.
Also I've been told my warranty was indeed automatic, so if I truly cannot fix the mic problem again, apparently I can send it away to get fixed. Although I guess I'll have to reset and all, hide root and all that. Don't even know how, nor do I want to be phone-less, so help will still be very appreciated.
Rizaria said:
1. No one calling me can hear me unless I use speakerphone.
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Sounds like a defect to me ... I would try to get an exchange. Maybe first compre with another SGS2 in a shop.
2. When listening to music on my massive Sennheiser headphones I can't hear much at all.
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That's pretty normal with mobile devices, which usually have an output impedance of 32 Ohm. Large HiFi headphones are optimized for much more powerfull amplifiers and so have an impedance of 250 Ohm or even more. This results in much lower volume, if high impedance headphones are used on mobile devices like phones, notebooks or MP3 players.
A further reason is, that the SGS2 has lower maximum volume, than several competitors ... seems to be limited by software.
Download Poweramp from the market ... it's worth every cent, but there's also a time limited demo. This app has a nice preamp, which allows you to raise the overall volume and it's equalizer is also very good.
I use Ogg Vorbis (224 bitrate) songs with this app combined with an AKG K319, the best mobile headphones I ever tried ... much better than even most big Sennheisers ... that being said from a former Sennheiser fan For home HiFi I recommend Beyerdynamic DT880 or DT990. Try these headphones and you'll sell your Sennheiser
The combination of Ogg Vorbis (MP3 sucks in comparison), AKG and Poweramp give me fantastic sound quality!
And don't use Metallica for testing ... their records are highly compressed ... complete junk from an accustically perspective, because all dynamics are compressed away. Google for "audio compressor" and you'll understand.
i use a combination of poweramp with a 'smiley face' or 'rocl' equalizer setting and volume+ with +3 and good quality equalizer settings.
makes my koss portapros truly shine in terms of volume and clarity.
First off, lemme say thanks for the replies. 'Preciate it.
Aymara said:
Sounds like a defect to me ... I would try to get an exchange. Maybe first compre with another SGS2 in a shop.
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Possibly, it's been awhile since I got it though and I dunno where I put my receipt so I sort of doubt the shop will care. And defect or not, I feel it's more a software/firmware issue as I truly was able to fix it at some point.
That's pretty normal with mobile devices, which usually have an output impedance of 32 Ohm. Large HiFi headphones are optimized for much more powerfull amplifiers and so have an impedance of 250 Ohm or even more. This results in much lower volume, if high impedance headphones are used on mobile devices like phones, notebooks or MP3 players.
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Hmm, didn't know that. Still doesn't explain why my headphones worked amazingly with my old iPhone but terrible with this. :c Not that I bought these headphones for taking out and about, rather bulky. Might hafta buy some others..
A further reason is, that the SGS2 has lower maximum volume, than several competitors ... seems to be limited by software.
Download Poweramp from the market ... it's worth every cent, but there's also a time limited demo. This app has a nice preamp, which allows you to raise the overall volume and it's equalizer is also very good.
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Yeah, I gathered as when I used a similar app called Volume+ I found it quite capable of better sound. That's why I'd like some help with changing the Samsung audio settings. I know my way around them, but there's so many opions and changeable things I'm not sure what to do. I'll give Poweramp a look.
I use Ogg Vorbis (224 bitrate) songs with this app combined with an AKG K319, the best mobile headphones I ever tried ... much better than even most big Sennheisers ... that being said from a former Sennheiser fan For home HiFi I recommend Beyerdynamic DT880 or DT990. Try these headphones and you'll sell your Sennheiser
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So cannot be arsed getting OGG versions ofall my music. xD And having to re-tag it all. If OGGs can even be tagged and have art. But yeah, way too much effort but I don't doubt you.
And don't use Metallica for testing ... their records are highly compressed ... complete junk from an accustically perspective, because all dynamics are compressed away. Google for "audio compressor" and you'll understand.
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Perhaps. But they're loud songs nonetheless, particularly the live ones. I can certainly hear the difference. Way too quiet on the SGS2. :c
rab1412000 said:
i use a combination of poweramp with a 'smiley face' or 'rocl' equalizer setting and volume+ with +3 and good quality equalizer settings.
makes my koss portapros truly shine in terms of volume and clarity.
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Using more than one app is even more than my not wanting to use one in the first place. Certainly wouldn't help battery life, as this all only matters when I'm travelling long distance and need music.
There are 2 microphones on the sgs2. One is on the bottom edge and one is on the top edge. The bottom one is for regular calls and is broken on your phone. The top one is for speakerphone, which is obviously working.
I suggest returning your phone under warranty as the volume issue is not normal either.
Sent from my GT-I9100M
Electroz said:
There are 2 microphones on the sgs2. One is on the bottom edge and one is on the top edge. The bottom one is for regular calls and is broken on your phone. The top one is for speakerphone, which is obviously working.
I suggest returning your phone under warranty as the volume issue is not normal either.
Sent from my GT-I9100M
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They're not broken as such because as stated I was able to fiddle with some settings and get normal calls working fine, it just lost those settings after a reset. Some sort of firmware fault, I've heard of cases where people had the same issue back on the original SGS.
I could never get the warranty going. Samsung's website wouldn't recognise it at all. Never got around to trying to start the warranty manually. Probably too late now.
Also, to those who recommended Poweramp; I'm impressed. that's not a bad work around actually. Shame it doesn't have playlist support though.
EDIT: Oh, it does! perfect little app, thanks guys. Now I just need to find settings to fix my in-call volume issue then I'm all set.
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Using more than one app is even more than my not wanting to use one in the first place. Certainly wouldn't help battery life, as this all only matters when I'm travelling long distance and need music.
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volume+ has no perceptible hit on battery life fyi
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why dont you give it a try first. you could always kill it or uninstall it if it doesnt work out for you. it has a v small memory footprint btw.
rab1412000 said:
volume+ has no perceptible hit on battery life fyi
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why dont you give it a try first. you could always kill it or uninstall it if it doesnt work out for you. it has a v small memory footprint btw.
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Ah alright, I might've imagined it. I'll use it if need-be, at least Poweramp seems to do the job as-is but thanks for the recommendation.
Rizaria said:
Hmm, didn't know that. Still doesn't explain why my headphones worked amazingly with my old iPhone but terrible with this. :c Not that I bought these headphones for taking out and about, rather bulky. Might hafta buy some others..
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thats what you call impedance mismatch.
for example, my woodees in-ear sound excellent on an iphone/ipod. in fact, it is a match to a bose QC15 any day. however it sounds muffled on my laptop and sgs2.
its the complete opposite with my koss portapros which sound amazing on my laptops and sgs2 and sound just ok on the ipod.
there is most probably nothing wrong with both your headphones and phone, but just keep this in mind. it is one reason why certain audiophiles have more than one iem.
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forgot about your in-call issues, yes that could be a hardware problem.
rab1412000 said:
thats what you call impedance mismatch.
for example, my woodees in-ear sound excellent on an iphone/ipod. in fact, it is a match to a bose QC15 any day. however it sounds muffled on my laptop and sgs2.
its the complete opposite with my koss portapros which sound amazing on my laptops and sgs2 and sound just ok on the ipod.
there is most probably nothing wrong with both your headphones and phone, but just keep this in mind. it is one reason why certain audiophiles have more than one iem.
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What a pain in the arse. :c Had no idea audio could be so damn complicated.
At least Poweramp seems to make things loud enough. Might have to invest in some more portable headphones in the future though.
personally, id try to get your in-call volume issues sorted out first.
that just isnt right and could indeed point to a h/w defect.
rab1412000 said:
personally, id try to get your in-call volume issues sorted out first.
that just isnt right and could indeed point to a h/w defect.
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That basically is all I need sorting now. The underlying problem of the music volume may not be fixed, but the apps suggested here get around it fine.
I still don't think it was a hardware defect as I really did have it fixed at one point. Stupid reset. I think it's some semi-unique firm/software issue I have.
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Had no idea audio could be so damn complicated.
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That's the downside of the MP3 age ... most people don't know nothing about audio quality and what's worse, they don't know what they missed so far.
There are several lessons to learn:
1. MP3 sucks even at highest bitrate, because frequencies above 15 KHz are cut off and basses are always distorted if the music is a bit louder. If you have good audio hardware, MP3 sounds much worse than a good Audio CD.
2. Ogg Vorbis is a good compromise for mobile use compared to Flac with it's extremly large files. If you rip a CD with quality setting Q=7 (224 kbit) you won't hear a difference to the CD except when using a DDD recording on a high end HiFi home sytem and having yourself very trained ears And what's also nice is, the file size is similar to MP3.
And yes, you can use album art with Ogg ... embed it with Media Monkey on PC or if you rip a complete album to a folder, just place a JPG in that folder which has the same file name as the album title. Both Media Monkey and the SGS2 will show it (no matter if stock player or Poweramp). No need to mention, that all MP3 tags also can be embedded in Ogg.
3. Good audio hardware is needed ... and though the stock volume is a bit low on the SGS2, it's Yamaha audio engine is quite good. But the stock audio player is crap. It's impossible to get good equalization without distortion in the bass bands. But Poweramp solves this problem, if you set it up correctly.
So all that is missing now is a good headphone. The best mobile headphone with correct impedance you can get below 100$ nowadays is the AKG K319 ... though it ships with a hardcase and has fantastic sound, it's not very popular or let's say not well known, so you can get it really cheap ... got it for only 25 Euros
But if you are a bass junkie, the Koss Porta Pro might be the better choice. It has a little bit more bass response as the AKG, but is more bulky and can't compete with the AKG's sound "crispness" in middle and high frequency bands.
Conclusion: After already switching to Poweramp, Ogg and a good mobile headphone will give give you a second WOW effect
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Conclusion: After already switching to Poweramp, Ogg and a good mobile headphone will give give you a second WOW effect
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Very interesting. I knew some of that, but not quite to that extent. Regardless though, the sheer time it'd take me to replace my songs..ugh, I shudder at the thought. Also I prefer mp3 and m4a for cross-system compatibility and iTunes use. Still my fave way of organising and listening to music I'm almost ashamed to say.
That being said, I installed Winamp just for transferring my music and playlists onto my SGS2 properly.
I'll keep the headphones in mind, but Poweramp itself solves the bulk of that problem. x3 Now if only I could fix my major problem.
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Also I prefer mp3 and m4a for cross-system compatibility and iTunes use.
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MP3 will die over time, not only because it sounds horrible. The main reason are the licence fees, devs and manufacturers have to pay ... Ogg on the other hand is free ... did you notice, that nearly all newer devices suport Ogg?
It can understand, that switching a large archive to Ogg can be a lot of work, but it's zero hassle to use Ogg for new material.
I highly recommend to compare the sound quality.
Now if only I could fix my major problem.
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You mentioned, that you found a fix, but a reboot resets it. Do you use the latest firmware or a custom ROM?
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MP3 will die over time, not only because it sounds horrible. The main reason are the licence fees, devs and manufacturers have to pay ... Ogg on the other hand is free ... did you notice, that nearly all newer devices suport Ogg?
It can understand, that switching a large archive to Ogg can be a lot of work, but it's zero hassle to use Ogg for new material.
I highly recommend to compare the sound quality.
You mentioned, that you found a fix, but a reboot resets it. Do you use the latest firmware or a custom ROM?
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Yeah, I don't doubt it. Gotta love that open source. I might investigate more into ogg files when I have more spare time.
As for the firmware, I believe I updated to a latest one. At least I don't think it was custom, looked the same as the stock, stupid TouchWiz and all. Only updated to root it basically. 'Cause I think my stock rom was an Optus mutated version basically, so couldn't root it. Something like that.
Lets check the settings..hmm...Android Version: 2.3.3, Baseband Version: I9100XXKDJ, Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100XWEK2-CL187606 [email protected] #2, Build Number: GINGERBREAD.XWKE2.
That's all I know.
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I might investigate more into ogg files when I have more spare time.
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One last word about Ogg ... it's only superior to MP3 at 224 KBit and above!
At least I don't think it was custom, ...
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You think? Where did you get it from? I only updated by OTA ... staying stock so far.
maybe 2.3.5 will fix that
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One last word about Ogg ... it's only superior to MP3 at 224 KBit and above!
You think? Where did you get it from? I only updated by OTA ... staying stock so far.
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I tend to only have MP3s above 192kbps, mostly higher, so I guess I'll know to keep the trend for oggs.
And yes, I believe so. The OTA updating thing didn't work. Again, I believe, because it was an Optus-edited firmware.
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maybe 2.3.5 will fix that
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Perhaps. If I update again does it keep my root or will I have to do that again?
EDIT: Okay, Poweramp works fine, and I also see types of headphones are to blame. Like the earphones that came with the phone are fine. They have 3 notches on the plug as opposed to 2. I'd say that's a fair indication. Anyway, can consider this problem solved.
Also I've been told my warranty was indeed automatic, so if I truly cannot fix the mic problem again, apparently I can send it away to get fixed. Although I guess I'll have to reset and all, hide root and all that. Don't even know how, nor do I want to be phone-less, so help will still be very appreciated.
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But if you are a bass junkie, the Koss Porta Pro might be the better choice. It has a little bit more bass response as the AKG, but is more bulky and can't compete with the AKG's sound "crispness" in middle and high frequency bands.
Conclusion: After already switching to Poweramp, Ogg and a good mobile headphone will give give you a second WOW effect
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I agree with most everything you said except your comments on the koss portapros.
Unlike most iem's, the koss us not bass heavy and in fact shines in separation, natural sound reproduction and over all warness and crispness. It is definitely not a headphone for bass heads.
I like listening to modern music with a lot of strings and I get a lot of separation in the high frequencies.
Like i said I've compared it to a Boss quiet comfort 15 and senn 555's.
Your akg is very good too, but at a third of the price less, i personally feel the koss is a better buy.
And that's why it's design has been the same for the past 25 years
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[Q]is the speaker really that bad?

I have a kindle fire and am considering a nook tablet, but I'm wondering does the speaker in the NT really sound as bad as people are saying? How is it compared to an iPod touch?
I don't have an iPod, but I have no complaints about it.
I've got all three of these in my home. Fire best, iPOD next, Tablet sucks
Thanks, i'm prob going to wait for the Asus mimo then. Although the Asus transformer speakers really sucked too.
No, I don't think the speaker is that bad. I think the internal settings/controls on the stock tablet are what disappoint a lot of people. I wasn't happy either until I installed the Volume+ app. I don't have any complaints since.
rwischer said:
No, I don't think the speaker is that bad. I think the internal settings/controls on the stock tablet are what disappoint a lot of people. I wasn't happy either until I installed the Volume+ app. I don't have any complaints since.
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Ditto. The volume is just way to low on the nt.
That being said, I tried the volume + app and didn't see a difference. Maybe I just don't know how to use the app though. What settings are you using on this app to get more volume? All it seemed to let me do is control the volume for alarm, ringer, notification, etc.
I really find that to be an interesting position to take on whether or not you will buy the Nook tablet - not that I really care either way if you buy one or not as I am certainly not B&N employee or anything.
I own an iPad, a NT, and have owned an iTouch in the past. Frankly, I wouldn't want to listen to any of these devices through their internal speaker. They are all very small and can only provide a miniature tin can version of sound.
However, I will say that any of these sound great with headphones and can easily be improved with decent set of portable speakers plugged in.
Just my two cents on the subject...
Well, i was going to let my dad watch movies on it, he's 84 years old, he won't use headphones.
I got the kindle fire, and really liked it but the space is so too limited so i'm returning it.
I was going to get the NT, but the speaker sucks, and personally i don't like the larger form factor for a 7" tablet.
I would get the galaxy 7" but it's too expensive.
Guess i'll have to wait. Thanks for the input everyone.
all you guys have to remember that this was meant for
READING (but who wants to do that)
not modding the crap out of it.
424aca said:
all you guys have to remember that this was meant for
READING (but who wants to do that)
not modding the crap out of it.
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Lol, wrong place to tell people not to mod it buddy, were in the android development forum
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The on-board speaker for every device I've ever tried out is crap for watching anything. I suspect my father (65) would just toss it in a drawer and it wouldn't be heard from again until one of my nieces steals it.
That complaint aside, have you considered getting whichever tablet you think will actually be the easiest for him to operate and just getting him a set of those plug-in speakers which just mount on top (or the side depending on how you're holding it)?
Like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Macally-Porta...96/ref=sr_1_66?ie=UTF8&qid=1330738941&sr=8-66
If he's going to be seated in the same place while watching a regular set of computer speaker may be preferable.
CRE said:
The on-board speaker for every device I've ever tried out is crap for watching anything. I suspect my father (65) would just toss it in a drawer and it wouldn't be heard from again until one of my nieces steals it.
That complaint aside, have you considered getting whichever tablet you think will actually be the easiest for him to operate and just getting him a set of those plug-in speakers which just mount on top (or the side depending on how you're holding it)?
Like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Macally-Porta...96/ref=sr_1_66?ie=UTF8&qid=1330738941&sr=8-66
If he's going to be seated in the same place while watching a regular set of computer speaker may be preferable.
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Hmm interesting find, has anyone used it?. Another alternative is to get yourself an Aux cable so you can plug your NT to most of all music player, i have that setup in my car .
~ Veronica
They're pretty easy to find in my area. They're not great, I'm sure, but at least they point in the right direction!
Get the volume + app if you're running cm7 or rooted. Its really great. Can't believe I lived without it for so long.
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Get the volume + app if you're running cm7 or rooted. Its really great. Can't believe I lived without it for so long.
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I have CM7 and tried Volume+ but didn't notice any difference. Not sure it installed right though because it kept asking me to "agree" to the license agreement every time I started the app. Are there any tricks to the install?
The speaker (one) in the nook tablet is very poor, low in level, and monaural. A cable into a stereo aux-in for car or whatever is a big, loud, stereo solution for almost no money. Streaming output audio over wifi to clients on the net will keep you wireless, this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23135348 post is looking to port MPD (music player daemon) to android, and there are no doubt others.
SpeakerBoost
I happened upon an app in the Amazon market called SpeakerBoost. I also found it on Google Play. This app actually works, and it is FREE.
It allows you to adjust the maximum volume output for any android device. I loaded it on both my Nook Tablet, and my OneV. The difference is like night and day. I was able to watch a movie on my Nook without having any external speaker plugged in. IMHO, that is one big plus. I don't have to carry around an extra speaker when I travel anymore. :victory: And if I choose to attach the external speaker, it is Much Louder than before.
I'd say that this app is a real find.
Since they don't have this app in the Nook app store, you will have to root your device in order to even get this app.

HDMI resolution

Hi there,
I was checking the HDMI out on Xperia S and I came up with this. I changed the resoultions from 720p to 1080p , i didn't saw any difference. Does this really change the resolution of HDMI out? Anyone tried it?
The phone still outputs 720p scaled to 1080p. It just does the scaling for the tv. Duplicating a display is easy, running two would be a challenge for a phone GPU.
I tired 720p and 1080p, there was no difference i saw. my monitor is 23", maybe scaling would better work with 50". Right?
Saeen said:
I tired 720p and 1080p, there was no difference i saw. my monitor is 23", maybe scaling would better work with 50". Right?
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No, you misunderstand me. Its 720P either way because the screen on the phone is 720. It'll always be 720.
If you set it to 720P: Phone -720->Monitor-Upscales("stretches")-You see it.
If you set it to 1080P: Phone-Upscales-1080->Monitor-You see it.
Either way its just stretching 720p. At the same viewing distance it will look WORSE on the bigger screen. That said, I watched an SD movie with the gf the other night on a 50" tv using my XS. We were about 8 feet away and it looked fine. Using it on my desktop 22" it is kinda noticeable though. Not too bad though:
that was well explained. Thanks.
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No, you misunderstand me. Its 720P either way because the screen on the phone is 720. It'll always be 720.
If you set it to 720P: Phone -720->Monitor-Upscales("stretches")-You see it.
If you set it to 1080P: Phone-Upscales-1080->Monitor-You see it.
Either way its just stretching 720p. At the same viewing distance it will look WORSE on the bigger screen. That said, I watched an SD movie with the gf the other night on a 50" tv using my XS. We were about 8 feet away and it looked fine. Using it on my desktop 22" it is kinda noticeable though. Not too bad though:
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Does your TV go to 24p when you plug your phone in? I couldnt tell from your video, mine goes to 24p and has massive input lag which makes games unplayable!
Also if you play music does the equiliser have any effect on the sound? Mine has zero bass and the equiliser has no effect at all
Go to the service menu. There are advanced settings for HDMI out. You can set the resolution up to [email protected] hz.
The equalizer is an another story. It has nothing to do with equalizer. The phone applies some kind of high-pass filter for the HDMI out sound as if it thinks it plays the sound through its own external speakers. The cut-off frequency seems to be around 100 hz or so. This is some kind of software bug and I hope Sony will fix it!
Zoomer88 said:
Go to the service menu. There are advanced settings for HDMI out. You can set the resolution up to [email protected] hz.
The equalizer is an another story. It has nothing to do with equalizer. The phone applies some kind of high-pass filter for the HDMI out sound as if it thinks it plays the sound through its own external speakers. The cut-off frequency seems to be around 100 hz or so. This is some kind of software bug and I hope Sony will fix it!
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Thanks Zoomer, I have used the serice menu trick before but it resets every time! kinda useless hey.
My phone came with .62 but I flashed to .73 from the dev section, not sure if the HDMI sound output was ok before or not
WasherUK said:
Does your TV go to 24p when you plug your phone in? I couldnt tell from your video, mine goes to 24p and has massive input lag which makes games unplayable!
Also if you play music does the equiliser have any effect on the sound? Mine has zero bass and the equiliser has no effect at all
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Works fine. No noticeable delay. That was a monitor (Dell ST2210) so no audio(used a pair of headphones to just play in the background for the camera).
When I used it on a 50" LG TV the sound seemed fine. Was just a movie but there was some music and I didnt hear anything unusual(I'm a DJ so I'd pick up on it rather quick).
From other threads it seems that some tvs just dont play nice, try a few others and see what happens.
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Works fine. No noticeable delay. That was a monitor (Dell ST2210) so no audio(used a pair of headphones to just play in the background for the camera).
When I used it on a 50" LG TV the sound seemed fine. Was just a movie but there was some music and I didnt hear anything unusual(I'm a DJ so I'd pick up on it rather quick).
From other threads it seems that some tvs just dont play nice, try a few others and see what happens.
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Hmmm maybe the Dell dosnt support 24p? Thats what I get for buying a crappy Bravia tv and expecting it to work with a Sony phone
Scratchling said:
When I used it on a 50" LG TV the sound seemed fine. Was just a movie but there was some music and I didnt hear anything unusual(I'm a DJ so I'd pick up on it rather quick).
From other threads it seems that some tvs just dont play nice, try a few others and see what happens.
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Well it depends on TV speakers but normally you shouldn't be able to tell the ~100hz cut-off on the tv since the TV Speakers aren't exactly made for low frequency sound
I'm connecting my phone to the Sony DA2400ES AV Receiver which in turn connected to the tv and a good sound system. I was planning on using this phone to bit stream flac's LPCM through receiver since my receiver doesn't have a way to connect a media storage. But unfortunately the sound is FUBARed
WasherUK said:
Thanks Zoomer, I have used the serice menu trick before but it resets every time! kinda useless hey.
My phone came with .62 but I flashed to .73 from the dev section, not sure if the HDMI sound output was ok before or not
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Yeah, the reset sucks My phone had .67 since the day I bought it. The sound was the same.
On a side note. To my knowledge 24hz is a standard for movies (24 frames per second) so every TV should support 24hz. But on the PC monitors it is the other way. 60hz is a standard for LCD monitor and 24hz support is optional by specifications. So yea, it is possible that the phone, being connected to the monitor, first of all tries to set 24hz and fails, then sets 60hz.
I hope there will be some way in ICS to configure audio/video output and to save those settings.
Edit: Oh! I also forgot to mention that I started a topic on the HDMI audio issue on the official Sony Xperia forum and Sony representative confirmed this behavior. He also launched an investigation! As of now I cant post links here (need 6 posts) but if you check Sony forums and search for the topic named "HDMI audio problem (high-pass filter?!)" in the "Xperia S" directory, you should easily find it! Right now it is on the second page.
For a personal point of view I let the tv handle upscaling, it seems to do it better than the phone.
As for sound, that is plain nasty on hdmi. If I use a standard 3.5 mm lead it is great, even on the tv, but yeah, hdmi is just bad. No bass, it just sounds tinny and generally low quality.
Sent from my XperiaS via transwarp beacon.
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Well it depends on TV speakers but normally you shouldn't be able to tell the ~100hz cut-off on the tv since the TV Speakers aren't exactly made for low frequency sound
I'm connecting my phone to the Sony DA2400ES AV Receiver which in turn connected to the tv and a good sound system. I was planning on using this phone to bit stream flac's LPCM through receiver since my receiver doesn't have a way to connect a media storage. But unfortunately the sound is FUBARed
Yeah, the reset sucks My phone had .67 since the day I bought it. The sound was the same.
On a side note. To my knowledge 24hz is a standard for movies (24 frames per second) so every TV should support 24hz. But on the PC monitors it is the other way. 60hz is a standard for LCD monitor and 24hz support is optional by specifications. So yea, it is possible that the phone, being connected to the monitor, first of all tries to set 24hz and fails, then sets 60hz.
I hope there will be some way in ICS to configure audio/video output and to save those settings.
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Yep 24p is for movie playback, not all sets suport it though which leaves panning scenes looking ropey on blu-rays etc.
Im playing the sound though an expensive amp and speakers via the TV of course and have no low freq at all
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Lord Takyon said:
For a personal point of view I let the tv handle upscaling, it seems to do it better than the phone.
As for sound, that is plain nasty on hdmi. If I use a standard 3.5 mm lead it is great, even on the tv, but yeah, hdmi is just bad. No bass, it just sounds tinny and generally low quality.
Sent from my XperiaS via transwarp beacon.
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Looks like the little robots that work on the HDMI need to be re-charged!
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Looks like the little robots that work on the HDMI need to be re-charged!
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Oh lol. So true! I made an edit to my previous post and added information about the official forums. You might want to check it out and drop a few posts there But then again, judging by the answer of the representative, one post was enough to get their attention!
Lord Takyon said:
For a personal point of view I let the tv handle upscaling, it seems to do it better than the phone.
As for sound, that is plain nasty on hdmi. If I use a standard 3.5 mm lead it is great, even on the tv, but yeah, hdmi is just bad. No bass, it just sounds tinny and generally low quality.
Sent from my XperiaS via transwarp beacon.
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Yeah. And don't forget that by using 3.5mm jack you're sticking to the phone's built in questionable amplifier. tbh I'm not one of those guys running around with BEATSPEWPEWWOAH and lurking the forums in search of doubtful software equalizers like srs or the like. Clean lossless virgin digital sound FTW!
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Oh lol. So true! I made an edit to my previous post and added information about the official forums. You might want to check it out and drop a few posts there But then again, judging by the answer of the representative, one post was enough to get their attention!
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It amazes me how they dont realise these things!
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Edit: Oh! I also forgot to mention that I started a topic on the HDMI audio issue on the official Sony Xperia forum and Sony representative confirmed this behavior. He also launched an investigation! As of now I cant post links here (need 6 posts) but if you check Sony forums and search for the topic named "HDMI audio problem (high-pass filter?!)" in the "Xperia S" directory, you should easily find it! Right now it is on the second page.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587564
i opened a thread for this same problem, but i don't find any solution.
Also there are many android mobile phone having this audio issue (like motorola, acer and other)
waiting for a sony support answer

External stereo microphone for LG V30.

Hi, as mentioned in the title, I'm searching for a external microphone that will let me to record HiFi stereo sound.
Does anybody got experience with such topic?
Thanks
Is the reason being that the mic's on the device are not good enough? I believe they are among the best for phones, plus idk if you have the HD audio recorder app on your variant or model, but it does work amazingly well if you use the right settings (gain/levels). Been awhile since I read about the mic's but this phone uses more than 1 mic and they aren't junk, kinda what it was made for, idk if external mic would sound any better or not, especially w/o an expensive mic(s). But I initially bought an irig I/O audio interface that is compatible w/android for a mic or guitar with midi device and has that input and an output for recording, I got $400 worth of software included with the purchase (Amplitube 4 and more for free). BTW it is for sale and basically brand new if your interested, barely used replaced it with the 2i2) zBut for reference the irig i/o will do 24bit/96khz and the mic's and HD audio recorder on the phone will save Flac files up to 24bit/192khz. Or check out irig uo, was made for Android. I got my eye on the axe i/o which just came out for guitar recording, I wish they had these cheap modelers and Sims in the 90's, I think its awesome, I never had the money to buy the real equipment. Give some more info what your trying to do and maybe I could help more. Otherwise a usb audio interface on a PC is the way to go if you have one. Android is way behind Apple on compatible audio interfaces. I use the focusrite scarlet 2i2 that I use for my guitar with amplitube 4 amplifier Sims, it has 2 inputs for a mic and a instrument for recirding which is what (most) people use to make youtube videos. I could technically get it to work on my phone but not much to work with. Android needs to fix there audio latency issues, which is the reason companies don't bother making anything for it, getting more lately but it's not worth it imo, tons of stuff for Apple though but Ive never and will never buy an iPhone. Sorry some of that was off topic but hope I helped. Pm me if u want.
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Is the reason being that the mic's on the device are not good enough? I believe they are among the best for phones, plus idk if you have the HD audio recorder app on your variant or model, but it does work amazingly well if you use the right settings (gain/levels).
Been awhile since I read about the mic's but this phone uses more than 1 mic and they aren't junk, kinda what it was made for, idk if external mic would sound any better or not, especially w/o an expensive mic(s).
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Yeah, the ear speaker turns into a 3rd microphone during high decibel environments (like concerts).
Hi.
Internal mics might be good but I need a professional microphone with a wind and noise protection and higher sensitivity, kinda the same they use on DSLRs.
I would like to use it for recording sound samples (nature, forest, etc)
Cheers
A good usb mic and a USB interface is all you need then. Make sure the interface is compatible with whatever your using. The irig i/o would work with Android or the other one I mentioned above. I'LL sell it cheap to you if your interested.
You'll need a TRS to TRRS adapter youtu.be/rXBP5Kos-VE?t=271
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You'll need a TRS to TRRS adapter youtu.be/rXBP5Kos-VE?t=271
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Thank you!
To connect a stereo microphone (or 2 mono microphones with a Y splitter) to your phone you need this adapter:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005K9WNPG
Since this has a USB A plug, you need an adapter cable to convert the plug to USB C. Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Thunderbolt-Compatible-Chromebook-Pixelbook-Microsoft/dp/B07KR45LJW
Then if you're using an app that can handle stereo recording you should be good to go.

V30 USB Audio In Car

Hello all,
So I'm going through an "audio quality" phase and I've bought a bunch of crap to make music sound better. I bought a T-Mobile V30 off of craigslist for $130 today, and I am planning on using it as an audio playback device in my car, and pretty much just keep it in my glove box. I have a BMW M5 with a Bang and Olufsen sound system (sounds is incredible) and I usually use my iPhone 11 to either stream via bluetooth or stream via USB using Amazon Music HD. I read fantastic things about this phone (tried to root it and just gave up lol) and I didn't expect streaming via USB cable would be such a hassle.
As I mentioned, streaming on an iPhone 11 via lighting USB cable works great, I am able to control the music using the steering wheel instead of fiddling with the phone itself.
Any suggestions of how to stream via USB to your car with the LG V30? I've done some searching around and it's just people arguing LOL. Again, I'm just trying to keep my steering wheel controls while enjoying high fidelity music
Thank you all in advance!
What makes the V30 a great music source is its high-end ESS Sabre DAC, used when you plug headphones into the 3.5mm port and enable Quad DAC in settings. It is superb, and can drive all but the most demanding headphones.
It can drive external speakers as well through a receiver or amp, but often sounds a bit thin in such setups. It really was made for headphones/IEMs.
When playing through USB, you're sending digital audio out of the phone, relying on an external DAC (in this case your car's audio system) and not using the ESS DAC. I've tried to do this in my Mazda with Bose audio, but not been able to make it work. I know iPhones work doing the same.
Bluetooth works (controlled from steering wheel) but will be lower quality than USB.
I think most high-end car audio systems were designed with the thinking that only poor people use Androids, so no need to bother with them. The marketing people who make these decisions are generally not the sharpest knives in the shed, you know :cyclops:
I appreciate the thorough response! Yeah I’ve only read good things about the phone, I have hd650s that sound meh because of the impedance but might get a portable external amp for the phone. Also this LG off of a 5ghz /connection downloaded 110gb of music 10x faster than my iPhone 11. I stayed up till 4am trying to root it, I’m not going to give up on the USB playback, I’m an optimist like that LOL
And talk about marketing, ironically amazon music partnered up with BMW and the car and app both give you a notification that it’s fully supported. I have nothing but time these days, if I find anything different I will update the thread.
Thanks again The Dannemand!
yergo88 said:
I appreciate the thorough response! Yeah I’ve only read good things about the phone, I have hd650s that sound meh because of the impedance but might get a portable external amp for the phone. Also this LG off of a 5ghz /connection downloaded 110gb of music 10x faster than my iPhone 11. I stayed up till 4am trying to root it, I’m not going to give up on the USB playback, I’m an optimist like that LOL
And talk about marketing, ironically amazon music partnered up with BMW and the car and app both give you a notification that it’s fully supported. I have nothing but time these days, if I find anything different I will update the thread.
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Yes, please, I'll be very interested to hear if you succeed in playing USB audio through your BMW's audio system (nice car BTW )
First thing you want is probably get UAPP from the play store, if you haven't already. It's $8 you can't afford to save. It is both excellent at playing through external USB DACs (what it was made for originally) but also has dedicated support for the Quad DAC, maximizing quality through the 3.5mm port. It is one of only two apps that avoid molesting 16/44 music (CD quality), the other being Neutron. PowerAmp, while popular with many, CAN do it too, but only if you continually tweak its settings to match the exact sample rate of each track you're playing. At least last I checked.
Amazon Music HD does NOT work with our LG phones. It re-samples everything to 48KHz -- although it does a better job of it than the Android Mixer. But that won't matter in your case if Amazon Music can send music unmolested through USB. I don't know that.
As for the HD650, I never tried them myself, although several members comment on their use with V30 in the head-fi V30 thread. If you haven't already, make sure you also check the head-fi V30 Music apps, tricks and tips thread.
With ~100dB sensitivity the HD650 SHOULD theoretically be OK with V30. At 300 Ohm they will trigger High Impedance Mode (of course) with a max output of 2Vrms. They should definitely play loud enough. But maybe the low end gets a bit thin, depending on your preference and type of music. The ESS Sabre DAC used by LG is on the bright and analytical side, definitely not a bass head kind of DAC. An external headphone amp will help, for sure, although you may be better off then with a combined DAC/amp in that case.
Sorry for the lengthy post. I should get on with my work
Edit: To clarify, if my phone's USB mode is set to File Transfer, I can of course play files stored on its internal storage through my car's audio system -- and control it through the steering wheel buttons -- because it is simply using the phone as if it were a USB flash drive. But I don't think that's what you were looking for, since it won't support streaming.
TheDannemand said:
Yes, please, I'll be very interested to hear if you succeed in playing USB audio through your BMW's audio system (nice car BTW )
First thing you want is probably get UAPP from the play store, if you haven't already. It's $8 you can't afford to save. It is both excellent at playing through external USB DACs (what it was made for originally) but also has dedicated support for the Quad DAC, maximizing quality through the 3.5mm port. It is one of only two apps that avoid molesting 16/44 music (CD quality), the other being Neutron. PowerAmp, while popular with many, CAN do it too, but only if you continually tweak its settings to match the exact sample rate of each track you're playing. At least last I checked.
Amazon Music HD does NOT work with our LG phones. It re-samples everything to 48KHz -- although it does a better job of it than the Android Mixer. But that won't matter in your case if Amazon Music can send music unmolested through USB. I don't know that.
As for the HD650, I never tried them myself, although several members comment on their use with V30 in the head-fi V30 thread. If you haven't already, make sure you also check the head-fi V30 Music apps, tricks and tips thread.
With ~100dB sensitivity the HD650 SHOULD theoretically be OK with V30. At 300 Ohm they will trigger High Impedance Mode (of course) with a max output of 2Vrms. They should definitely play loud enough. But maybe the low end gets a bit thin, depending on your preference and type of music. The ESS Sabre DAC used by LG is on the bright and analytical side, definitely not a bass head kind of DAC. An external headphone amp will help, for sure, although you may be better off then with a combined DAC/amp in that case.
Sorry for the lengthy post. I should get on with my work
Edit: To clarify, if my phone's USB mode is set to File Transfer, I can of course play files stored on its internal storage through my car's audio system -- and control it through the steering wheel buttons -- because it is simply using the phone as if it were a USB flash drive. But I don't think that's what you were looking for, since it won't support streaming.
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Not at all, thank you so much for the help! You've answered all my questions and more!! Saved me a lot of google time!!
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