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I can not believe my eyes when I see that I can actually see scratches on my screen. It only shows up when the screen is oily or fog up. When it is clean, they won't show even under direct light. That got to be some coating getting scratched. Can others provide some insights on that?
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Check this video. It is possible to get scratch even if you got Gorilla glass.
(The Amaze is not gorilla glass but it is a reinforced glass that similar to Gorilla glass.)
It is better to have a cheap screen protector on the screen all the time.
yep, welcome to my world, I was being stupid and didn't get a cover for mine...My nexus one lasted for a year after I took off the screen cover with no scratches, I don't know what kind of glass HTC is using now, they say its fortified, it still doesn't mean scratch proof:
read this thread i made a while back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422964&highlight=warning
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papcoz said:
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Check this video. It is possible to get scratch even if you got Gorilla glass.
(The Amaze is not gorilla glass but it is a reinforced glass that similar to Gorilla glass.)
It is better to have a cheap screen protector on the screen all the time.
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we're not sure if amaze is gorilla glass or not, as gorilla says in their FAQ that they do not realease the information of all the phones that have gorilla glass on them...due to agreement between the sellers like HTC. It definitely is fortified glass of some sorts, but yea even gorilla glass gets scratched..
As someone who keeps a single phone for years, I never understood the mentality that says one should have a screen protector. Now hear me out: I understand that the screen protector is supposed to protect the screen from being scratched. If the purpose of not scratching the screen is purely aesthetic, then the screen protector is useless, if not so beyond useless that it becomes an aesthetic liability. Screen protectors are no where near as hard as the combination of glass and coatings that compose the screen itself. Across the useable life of the phone, the thin plastic of a screen protector is much more likely to accumulate scratches than the glass. And so in the end it comes to be that the people who are most concerned about preserving the aesthetics of a mint-condition phone have one that is shrouded by an ugly protective case and a screen protector covered in hundreds of scratches that would not otherwise register on the glass.
But more towards the original concern: whether or not the screen is Gorilla(TM) glass, a similar glass, regular glass, or even pure and impossibly cut diamond, the anti-fingerprint and -reflective coatings sitting atop would not benefit from their scratch-resistant properties. My screen also has this problem. It only shows up when there is significant oil or fingerprints on the screen. I find the latter much more annoying. So I constantly wipe the phone on my pants or sweater and it's back to normal.
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As someone who keeps a single phone for years, I never understood the mentality that says one should have a screen protector. Now hear me out: I understand that the screen protector is supposed to protect the screen from being scratched. If the purpose of not scratching the screen is purely aesthetic, then the screen protector is useless, if not so beyond useless that it becomes an aesthetic liability. Screen protectors are no where near as hard as the combination of glass and coatings that compose the screen itself. Across the useable life of the phone, the thin plastic of a screen protector is much more likely to accumulate scratches than the glass. And so in the end it comes to be that the people who are most concerned about preserving the aesthetics of a mint-condition phone have one that is shrouded by an ugly protective case and a screen protector covered in hundreds of scratches that would not otherwise register on the glass.
But more towards the original concern: whether or not the screen is Gorilla(TM) glass, a similar glass, regular glass, or even pure and impossibly cut diamond, the anti-fingerprint and -reflective coatings sitting atop would not benefit from their scratch-resistant properties. My screen also has this problem. It only shows up when there is significant oil or fingerprints on the screen. I find the latter much more annoying. So I constantly wipe the phone on my pants or sweater and it's back to normal.
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I can scratch the "coating" with a new walmart bag. It is just annoying. I am sure htc is using gorilla glass. They used it in their other products. Doesn't make sense they will drop out from that.
I would use a TPU case on the phone because the naked phone is too slippery to hold. Scratches won't affect performance, but dropping it will render the phone non functional.
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As someone who keeps a single phone for years, I never understood the mentality that says one should have a screen protector. Now hear me out: I understand that the screen protector is supposed to protect the screen from being scratched. If the purpose of not scratching the screen is purely aesthetic, then the screen protector is useless, if not so beyond useless that it becomes an aesthetic liability. Screen protectors are no where near as hard as the combination of glass and coatings that compose the screen itself. Across the useable life of the phone, the thin plastic of a screen protector is much more likely to accumulate scratches than the glass. And so in the end it comes to be that the people who are most concerned about preserving the aesthetics of a mint-condition phone have one that is shrouded by an ugly protective case and a screen protector covered in hundreds of scratches that would not otherwise register on the glass.
But more towards the original concern: whether or not the screen is Gorilla(TM) glass, a similar glass, regular glass, or even pure and impossibly cut diamond, the anti-fingerprint and -reflective coatings sitting atop would not benefit from their scratch-resistant properties. My screen also has this problem. It only shows up when there is significant oil or fingerprints on the screen. I find the latter much more annoying. So I constantly wipe the phone on my pants or sweater and it's back to normal.
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Point taken but sometimes deep scratches are not aesthetics, its just intrusive to your daily work, so you're better off getting a screen protector, than have a deep scratch in your screen that can cost you a couple of hundred bucks to fix
I had my Hero for about 2 years. I put a screen protector on it right away. After about a month the it looked abolutely terrible. It was marked and scratched and had bubbles. Ugly. I pulled the screen protector off and never put another one on. the screen was as nice the day I sold it as it was the day I bought it. I have no intention of putting a screen protector on my Amaze. The beauty of the screen is, after all, one of the reasons I chose this phone.
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I had my Hero for about 2 years. I put a screen protector on it right away. After about a month the it looked abolutely terrible. It was marked and scratched and had bubbles. Ugly. I pulled the screen protector off and never put another one on. the screen was as nice the day I sold it as it was the day I bought it. I have no intention of putting a screen protector on my Amaze. The beauty of the screen is, after all, one of the reasons I chose this phone.
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Don't make the same mistake I did...you will regret it. I though the same at first. I mean my other phones did fine without screen protectors, but seems like for some reason this screen scratches quick...I'm very careful with my phone and I was suprised to see a deep scratch on it, I had no Idea how!!! just letting you know...I made the same exact mistake and posted the same thing in the accessories section, stated why people were putting screen protectors on their phones, and how it wasn't necessary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353158&highlight=screen&page=2
read post 16 and 18 made by me, i thought the same exact thing. even gorilla glass gets scratched , just spend 6 bucks get a boxwave one...at first I didn't like it, thought it was a bit sticky but after using it for a fewe days its smooth as the glass and you don't even notice it AT ALL NowI love it!!! It's exactly like the glass itself!!
Maybe you should mention that in the accessories thread, before people begin to think you still hate Boxwave and then they steer away from it.
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Maybe you should mention that in the accessories thread, before people begin to think you still hate Boxwave and then they steer away from it.
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you're right, I will
crazypotato said:
I can scratch the "coating" with a new walmart bag. It is just annoying. I am sure htc is using gorilla glass. They used it in their other products. Doesn't make sense they will drop out from that.
I would use a TPU case on the phone because the naked phone is too slippery to hold. Scratches won't affect performance, but dropping it will render the phone non functional.
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Your last is a very good point. I made an oversight. Drop protection cases are useful.
Have had the TF300 for about a week and just cannot stand the fingerprints and worries about scratches. I'm used to Gorilla Glass and this is driving me nuts. I've been researching screen protectors quite a bit and cannot seem to get a consensus on a certain brand. I know the selection for the TF300 right now is slim, but given what you've used on earlier devices, what is a good brand to go with?
I have it in a case (Caseen Designo), but would like an extra layer of protection.
I've had good experiences with SGP's Steinheil screen protectors. I've used both the clear ones as well as the matte glare reduction/smudge resistant models and have been happy with both. The usual reduction in clarity is in the matte protector, but the cut was very precise and it lasted me a year before i took it off because i missed the crisp picture of the IPS panel, the protector was still pristine.
I just keep a microfiber and a small credit card style sprayer with 50/50 alcohol and water mix in the bag that i keep the tablet in, and its been alright so far, if you keep it in the dock most of the time you shouldn't have to worry about it being scratched unless you drop it or something, which i have yet to do since i also have a skinomi techskin on the back so its nice and grippy.
SGP doesn't make a protector for the TF300 yet, but i'd keep an eye on it, they make some solid products.
screen size is same as prime so protectors made for the prime should work.
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screen size is same as prime so protectors made for the prime should work.
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You may want to check camera and light sensor placement before you put a prime screen protector on. They may be the same but it never hurts to check
Nothing else will work with the TF300 unfortunately.
I've been researching like crazy and think I've narrowed it down to:
Zagg
Stenheil
XtremeGuard
Those seem to get the best reviews. I'm really looking for:
same feeling as naked screen
optimal clarity
mitigates fingerprints
If you've never felt a zagg's wet apply film before i suggest you find someone who's got something similar to it and try it first, i see one of the criteria is feel close to naked screen, zagg and other wet apply soft skins usually feel grippy when you first install it, and gradually over time will wear out and feel smoother. In general there are the wet apply films which feel a bit like vinyl except its clear, or the dry apply protectors which are harder pieces of plastic, those will feel closer but nothing will be quite like a naked screen.
Is there big difference on screen sensitive between glossy and matte screen protector? or just you see difference of screen quality...
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I almost wonder if I might just be better off with a naked screen. I have my TF300 in a Caseen leather case and am always very careful when it's in use. The only thing I'd like to mitigate is the fingerprints.
Wait for a ClearCoat screen protector....i have tried every other brand and there is NOTHING like them. Super thin, no spongey feeling or orange peel....
I bought the xtremeguard one on ebay for 8.99 It fits great. The one I got isn't anti-glare though. One thing that kind bothers me, since I have never used a screen protection before, is that my fingers don't glide as easily as in the glass, it shows a bit of resistance. But I guess I just got to get used to that. I have not seen a reduction in screen sensitivity as of yet, but my dagi stylus kinda sucks now with the screen protector T_T since its plastic on plastic the resistance is really bad.
I like my skinomi. it takes forever to apply since it's wet application and if you're OCD about bubbles/lint like me. But once you've got it on there perfect and wait for it to dry and clear up it's not bad at all +lifetime guarantee.
I've always liked wet applications over the adhesive/static stuff just because they last a long time, and I havent noticed the yellowing people have talked about on any of my devices, I agree about the stylus issue, though (jot pro)
+1 for skinomi...
I used to swear by Zagg ...
Skinomi has only a slight orange peel effect and is generally smother except I agree it is still a nogo for the Jot pro as it doesn't let the plastic disk glide
after a while the Zagg invisible skins would start to keep my finger from sliding properly...
Skinomi skins do not have this issue and they dont show finger smudges very much
I want to try the Zagg HD skins as they are supposed to be glass smooth but they seem to only be out for iProducts and the kindle fire.....
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+1 for skinomi...
I used to swear by Zagg ...
Skinomi has only a slight orange peel effect and is generally smother except I agree it is still a nogo for the Jot pro as it doesn't let the plastic disk glide
after a while the Zagg invisible skins would start to keep my finger from sliding properly...
Skinomi skins do not have this issue and they dont show finger smudges very much
I want to try the Zagg HD skins as they are supposed to be glass smooth but they seem to only be out for iProducts and the kindle fire.....
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It would be cool if the Zagg HD worked with plastic disk styluses
aelunyu said:
I like my skinomi. it takes forever to apply since it's wet application and if you're OCD about bubbles/lint like me. But once you've got it on there perfect and wait for it to dry and clear up it's not bad at all +lifetime guarantee.
I've always liked wet applications over the adhesive/static stuff just because they last a long time, and I havent noticed the yellowing people have talked about on any of my devices, I agree about the stylus issue, though (jot pro)
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the lifetime warrenty requires you to pay for shipping and handling by paying for the shipping and they also ask that you put your cc# on a paper and send it in. kinda risky there.
mrevankyle said:
You may want to check camera and light sensor placement before you put a prime screen protector on. They may be the same but it never hurts to check
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just got the bestskinsever protector for the prime and size is the same and cut out for camera is in the right spot. should be good to go on other protectors made for prime.
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I bought the xtremeguard one on ebay for 8.99 It fits great. The one I got isn't anti-glare though. One thing that kind bothers me, since I have never used a screen protection before, is that my fingers don't glide as easily as in the glass, it shows a bit of resistance. But I guess I just got to get used to that. I have not seen a reduction in screen sensitivity as of yet, but my dagi stylus kinda sucks now with the screen protector T_T since its plastic on plastic the resistance is really bad.
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This will pass eventually from wear, on my zune hd i used to have an invisible shield which is a similiar kind of wet apply soft protector, and eventually the center part wore down enough to where it was like a hard plastic protector.
You bring up a good point though that i forgot to mention, i've used matte hard protectors, clear hard protectors, and soft wet apply films and my adonit jot still works best on a naked screen, though the matte hard protector had more of a paper resistance to it and the clear and naked both were much smoother.
Szpaner: the touchscreen sensitivity for me was largely the same between a clear hard protector and matte hard protector, i wasn't able to glide as well with the wet apply film so i wasn't able to gauge properly how sensitive it was compared to the other two.
mfratella: a light coat of rain-x on the naked screen helps make it much easier to wipe clean, i can breathe on it once or twice and the condensation is good enough to clear the whole screen. Even with the matte hard protectors which are supposed to be designed to be anti-fingerprint, they will still show up eventually from the oils in your finger, those spots will end up being a little more transparent so you'd have to wipe anyway, though in my experience the matte ones are the easiest to wipe, i used to just use my sleeve and give it a once over and it was all clean.
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Is there big difference on screen sensitive between glossy and matte screen protector? or just you see difference of screen quality...
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When I've used a matte screen protector, I didn't notice any difference in screen sensitivity. The biggest difference is in the clarity of the screen. On a phone, I can deal with the graininess that a matte screen protector brings with it. But on a tablet with a large screen, something that I'm going to use for long periods of reading, it's far too distracting for me. Personally, I'd rather work around glare now and then along with wiping off finger prints in exchange for a clearer screen.
Screen protectors compatible with dock?
The Armorsuit people replayed on an email I sent them asking if their screen protector was compatible with the keyboard for the TF300.. it appears it is not. They answered me just to be careful... so I was planing on cuting it. these screen protector is actually pretty good, and I think that I wont even notice the protector end-line at the bottom of the screen after a while. Do you know if cutting it actually works?
I just installed the Skinomi on mine. Took about 5 minutes and it's perfect. Just gotta makes sure you soak the hell out of the screen (you won't damage it) and both sides of the protector plus your hands so that you don't leave finger prints on the adheasive. If you have enough of the solution on everything it should kinda float on the surface of the tablet. You can just very easily slide it around until it is center and then start pushing the water out to make it stick. I didn't have one bubble on mine when completed.
The Zagg is now avail at best buy . No issues with the stylus either. Now all i need is a case im comfortable with.
Anyone else notice this? Especially with a screen protector on I have noticed "dead" spots on the touch screen randomly show up and cause me problems.
When I first got my phone I had this issue. I had Verizon install their glass screen protector which I really liked, but I had random dead spots. I went to return it and of course they wouldn't take it back. I got a bit heated. I got the regular screen protector and have not had the issue since.
It was AWFUL with the all glass one for me, but is still noticeable even with a "flex" glass one that is just about the same thickness as a standard protector.
I am very curious if all G3s suffer from this.
my buddy with spigen glass doesn't seem to have the same touch issues I have with tech armor glass. once i get frustrated enough i'll get the spigen
I have the glass protector and sometimes I just want to throw the phone against the wall, especially when playing a game like GTA
I have had the zagg glass protector since i got the phone release day an have had the same problems but not enough to make me take it off i found out that when it happens i just turn the screen off and on then it fixes itself
I play Ingress on my G3, and with the 0.2mm iCarez tempered glass protector on it I get random areas where there is no touch sensitivity at all. Multiple presses, hard presses...nothing. Sometimes when I breath on my finger and try again it works for a while. Other areas work. Weird.
Since the iCarez has cracked in multiple places now and I am expecting a replacement, I could remove the shards and try it, but the One Plus seems much nicer overall, for screen touches. No protection on it though.
Happens to me to. I have the glass screen protector from the Verizon store. Sometimes I just wipe my fingers clean make sure they don't feel oily and sometimes that gets things going again. But yea its annoying
The thicker tempered glass screen protectors will result in this behavior in my experience. The icarez .2mm one is fine and has no touch issues that I can reproduce. The default verizon one they sell in the store near me is horrible.
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The thicker tempered glass screen protectors will result in this behavior in my experience. The icarez .2mm one is fine and has no touch issues that I can reproduce. The default verizon one they sell in the store near me is horrible.
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http://www.iloome.com/LG-G2-Screen-Protector-Flexible/dp/B00F4IIGMM
.12mm thick. The protector is not the problem that I can figure. I wonder if this design flaw is still being reproduced by LG or if they fixed it at some point. It is getting very old, very fast.
I had the Verizon tempered glass screen protector for about a week, and noticed areas of the screen that were nearly dead, especially along the edges. I removed the screen protector, and haven't had an issue since.
Morkai Almandragon said:
http://www.iloome.com/LG-G2-Screen-Protector-Flexible/dp/B00F4IIGMM
.12mm thick. The protector is not the problem that I can figure. I wonder if this design flaw is still being reproduced by LG or if they fixed it at some point. It is getting very old, very fast.
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I have this one and still get the occasional area that I can't touch. Primarily seems to affect the top right corner area.
I have used this screen protector now on three phones. Never an issue with any of them and I am a heavy user.
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i also had issues that made me want to throw the phone at times.
started with the vzw tg (i didnt realize thats what they were selling me when i bought it), waste of $25 or whatever.
put it in the OB case, and it was all but unusable.
threw the TG in the trash and went with just the OB plastic. still got frequent dead spots. ordered a normal protector from extreme guard on ebay, where i normally get my protectors. took out the OB plastic, put the XG protector on the phone, put it back in the OB case, never had another issue.
Icarez matte screen protectors on Amazon are beautiful easy to install, scratch resistant and don't bring about sensitivity issues associated with tempered
In the last couple of months I've already bought 2 screen protectors and both of them eventually "failed". I installed the first one and in the SAME day some water droplets fell on the screen and somehow went below the screen protector and created this huge rainbow-ish circle in the middle of the screen. The second one, that I just installed last weekend, had some dust or hair or something like that I suppose under the glass so I tried removing it, just guess what happened. Broken screen protector, so I'm trying to figure out if the problem is me, if I'm just unable to get it right and there's always something under the glass or it is impossible to get 100% right unless you're a machine.
I'd like to know what's your situation guys, what type of screen protector you're using and if you applied it yourself and how's it working for you or if you're still with the default one which was perfectly applied god I wish that lasted longer...
P.S: I've thought about plastic protectors instead of glass ones but if I can't apply a glass screen protector without dust under it I can't even imagine a plastic one.
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P.S: I've thought about plastic protectors instead of glass ones but if I can't apply a glass screen protector without dust under it I can't even imagine a plastic one.
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I applied a Skinomi shortly after receiving my op5. It's been on for almost a full year and still looks as good as it did in the pix I posted here.. Application was extremely easy.
Had the Duo since Friday...love it...or should I say loved it. Got the hang of the software, and for me it was awesome and had fun....UNTIL..I attempted to put the Zagg screen protector on it.. Heard it was horrible installation process, but got the first screen protector out of 4 on perfect...cleaned the second screen, and found the entire screen covered in scratches...thought there was a plastic screen protector on it or something, but couldnt peel anything off. The scratches came out of no where...had it for 3 days, bumper installed day one, no drops, no scuffs...it was treated like a baby...WTF??? Guess its going back...never thought I would have to send it back because its damaging itself opening and closing apparently.
cleaned the screens to install the Zagg glass screen protector I purchased from Best Buy. Cleaned the first screen, no problems and installed the screen protector. Everyone was saying that the Zagg was horrible to install. I installed it perfect on the first screen. Started to prep the second screen on the left...cleaned it with the Zagg supplied wipes, and saw all the scratches on the screen before I installed the screen protector. The scratches were so bad, I thought the DUO came installed with a cheap plastic screen protector...but it doesnt..
the scratches on the left screen is what is concerning. Looks like its from opening and closing the phone, cant think of anything else that would cause it.
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cleaned the screens to install the Zagg glass screen protector I purchased from Best Buy. Cleaned the first screen, no problems and installed the screen protector. Everyone was saying that the Zagg was horrible to install. I installed it perfect on the first screen. Started to prep the second screen on the left...cleaned it with the Zagg supplied wipes, and saw all the scratches on the screen before I installed the screen protector. The scratches were so bad, I thought the DUO came installed with a cheap plastic screen protector...but it doesnt..
the scratches on the left screen is what is concerning. Looks like its from opening and closing the phone, cant think of anything else that would cause it.
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Those scratches do not appear to be from opening and closing unless the hinge is (really) wobbly, they look like they are from having some sort of dirt or grit on something and trying to wipe the screen with it.
Might check I saw a reddit of people having issues with the screen shorting out too...I would check on if anyone else is getting scratches too?
Any chance your leaving is folded back?
Have you reached out to MS yet? So far for me they are terrible and take a day plus to answer though social media.
Honestly these have the classic Clean with dirty cloth scratching. Like there was a small piece of sand on the screen or cloth when it was cleaned. Those are not in anyway caused by the screen rubbing, the screen can't do that to itself.
Honestly loved the device but whoever decided to put glass on the front back was a huge mistake. Damn thing fell out of my pocket while sitting in a normal height chair and the whole back is cracked. Very disappointed in how fragile this device is. Dropped my other devices numerous times over the years from standing and never one problem. All this took was one short drop
Sounds like someone has an issue with dropping phones. It's not surprising that if you drop a device this thin that's glass front and back, it might break. Just the luck of the bounce.