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Why is it thy apps made specifically for tablets are incompatible with touchpad. Is this something that will be solved in the future releases of cm7 or ics?
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sLiKK said:
Why is it thy apps made specifically for tablets are incompatible with touchpad. Is this something that will be solved in the future releases of cm7 or ics?
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Google forked Android when they introduced tablets, with 2.3 Gingerbread being designed for phones and 3.0 Honeycomb being only for tablets. As such, while Gingerbread and earlier apps could run on honeycomb, the reverse wasnt true. Honeycomb also didn't have its source released until very recently.
Because of that, CM7 is based on Gingerbread, so we dont get tablet apps. ICS 4.0 brings the fork back to one common open source code base, so once we either see a port of vanilla ICS or CM9, we'll have tablet app compatibility.
On the other hand, you can use them just fine on webos so stick with that if you want a tablet experience.
Hmmmmmm......thanks for the explanation. Im excited for ics port to touchpad. Android is making every penny spent on touchpad worth while.
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Just got my ICS update on Monday and immediately I hated it, rooted, then put on resurrection remix stock ICS. Best EVER. What do you guys think of touchwiz over ICS and also any decent builds out there. Thought I'd ask as many people have different opinions on Samsung ICS. Thanks guys!
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has anyone noticed this? system dump for Android 4.1 jellybean is already out. the hacking/creating custom jellybean roms has already begun.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736529
they have it deoxdexed already in that thread.
plus the Samsung galaxy nexus just got the OTA update to jellybean. someone posted the file in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737340
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Nexus 7 system dump. thanks to Zedomax
Http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739147
Could possibly be ported to prime or at least new features pulled from it and implemented into prime roms.
Mods can delete thread if it can't be ported.
Jelly Bean looks pretty dang cool, but I think I'm personally going to wait until there is a stock-based JB ROM. I've tried AOSP-based ROMs on my Prime, and the loss of functionality on the keyboard, as well as the headaches with battery monitoring on the second battery just aren't worth it.
Once Wookie can get his hands on an Asus build of JB, I bet this thing will really come alive.
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You would be far better off waiting for either:
A dump from the Nexus 7 (Which is closer hardware-wise)
Waiting for source to be pushed to AOSP in a few weeks.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/android-building/BnspdkGvgOE/YaEotqlP4OoJ
SDK ports tend to be as slow as molasses and functionally incomplete as they usually lack the driver support of the proper release.
The HTC One X port from the Galaxy Nexus image is well... As bad as you would expect.
ZebTheCalvinist said:
I've tried AOSP-based ROMs on my Prime, and the loss of functionality on the keyboard, as well as the headaches with battery monitoring on the second battery just aren't worth it
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I am currently using CM9 and the keyboard functions equally as well as stock. Monitoring of the second battery works perfectly too. This is the case with all the recent releases of the other AOSP roms too. I do not think it will be too long before we have a JB AOSP rom for the Prime. I wish you luck in seeing the same from ASUS. Hopefully sometime next year lol.
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I'm running the Galaxy Nexus JellyBean OTA on my Gnex at the moment, and it is SWEET!
It seems that Project Butter has, for the most part, worked. My Galaxy Nexus has never been as smooth as it is now!
I can't wait for JellyBean to be released on our Primes! If I can stop myself buying a Nexus 7 that is!
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I am currently using CM9 and the keyboard functions equally as well as stock. Monitoring of the second battery works perfectly too. This is the case with all the recent releases of the other AOSP roms too. I do not think it will be too long before we have a JB AOSP rom for the Prime. I wish you luck in seeing the same from ASUS. Hopefully sometime next year lol.
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That's been the only thing holding me back from flashing an AOSP rom on my Prime, I was worried the keyboard dock wouldn't work or with limited functionality. I might have to give CM9 a go..
Back on topic. Yes looking forward to what JB can bring to the Prime!
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Jellybean port has already hit One X, hopefully we'll get a version soon too.
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I am currently using CM9 and the keyboard functions equally as well as stock. Monitoring of the second battery works perfectly too. This is the case with all the recent releases of the other AOSP roms too. I do not think it will be too long before we have a JB AOSP rom for the Prime. I wish you luck in seeing the same from ASUS. Hopefully sometime next year lol.
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I haven't tried CM9, but on AOKP and EOS, the extra tweaks for things like the keyboard unlock that Asus baked in are missing. I use mine for taking notes pretty frequently, and I like to be able to turn the screen on and off with the keyboard. That was never an option with AOKP or EOS. I recognize that it's a small issue for most people, but it was a deal-breaker for me. The ROMs that I was running didn't have a dual-battery guage, either, unless you wanted a big ugly widget on one of your home screens to tell you how your dock battery is doing. I also missed the quick OC settings that are in the stock-based FW.
Namidairo said:
You would be far better off waiting for either:
A dump from the Nexus 7 (Which is closer hardware-wise)
Waiting for source to be pushed to AOSP in a few weeks.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/android-building/BnspdkGvgOE/YaEotqlP4OoJ
SDK ports tend to be as slow as molasses and functionally incomplete as they usually lack the driver support of the proper release.
The HTC One X port from the Galaxy Nexus image is well... As bad as you would expect.
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Theres already a nexus 7 system dump. thanks to Zedomax. he has a nexus 7 in his possession.
Http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739147
ZebTheCalvinist said:
I haven't tried CM9, but on AOKP and EOS, the extra tweaks for things like the keyboard unlock that Asus baked in are missing. I use mine for taking notes pretty frequently, and I like to be able to turn the screen on and off with the keyboard. That was never an option with AOKP or EOS. I recognize that it's a small issue for most people, but it was a deal-breaker for me. The ROMs that I was running didn't have a dual-battery guage, either, unless you wanted a big ugly widget on one of your home screens to tell you how your dock battery is doing. I also missed the quick OC settings that are in the stock-based FW.
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Fair 'nuff. It's funny how everyone has their list of deal-breakers, myself included.
Sorry for the off-topic. Hopefully someone will be able to use this system dump to make something very cool in the not too distant future
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ZebTheCalvinist said:
Jelly Bean looks pretty dang cool, but I think I'm personally going to wait until there is a stock-based JB ROM. I've tried AOSP-based ROMs on my Prime, and the loss of functionality on the keyboard, as well as the headaches with battery monitoring on the second battery just aren't worth it.
Once Wookie can get his hands on an Asus build of JB, I bet this thing will really come alive.
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i have no idea what rom you were trying but there is no loss of keyboard functionality on AOKP nor any battery problems.
demandarin
Not to push you or anything but did you take a look how we can get Jellybean for our Prime by using the Nexus 7 files?
Can we already begin porting or do we have to wait for the source code?
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demandarin
Not to push you or anything but did you take a look how we can get Jellybean for our Prime by using the Nexus 7 files?
Can we already begin porting or do we have to wait for the source code?
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a port can be made but might need work. likely people will use parts of it and implement it.
There is a factory image of nexus 7 here
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasi
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ZebTheCalvinist said:
I haven't tried CM9, but on AOKP and EOS, the extra tweaks for things like the keyboard unlock that Asus baked in are missing. I use mine for taking notes pretty frequently, and I like to be able to turn the screen on and off with the keyboard. That was never an option with AOKP or EOS. I recognize that it's a small issue for most people, but it was a deal-breaker for me. The ROMs that I was running didn't have a dual-battery guage, either, unless you wanted a big ugly widget on one of your home screens to tell you how your dock battery is doing. I also missed the quick OC settings that are in the stock-based FW.
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Except keyboard wake up you have all the rest in CM9. Bt this is off-topic. Running 30th june nightly.
Just a matter of time now!! Have not unlock my prime yet but I will if a port becomes available before an official update.
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Just a matter of time now!! Have not unlock my prime yet but I will if a port becomes available before an official update.
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actually it's a matter of some dev willing to spend his spare time and sharing the result with us.
anyways we'll see. i think an official update or AOSP version is available anywhere soon.
We wait for 4.1 release tag to drop.
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I just read and saw a video of an Acer a500 getting 4.1 JB ported over.
Oh Yea!!!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/09/android-4-1-jelly-bean-released-to-aosp-right-now/
So. What now?
There is few - non-complete - ICS roms for the htc flyer, but nothing good enough for daily use.
We didn't even get android 4 before android 5 was out... :crying:
Drew Garen is apparently working on ICS. Maybe he should be asked to try to work on Jellybean instead?
What do you think? Will it be harder to get Jellybean? Will it ever be done?
I think you should just give it up. What makes you think we ll get 4.1,if like you said we don't even have a good ics Rom. If you realy want buy a nexus 7. It's 199 so the price is very reasonable
I'm pretty confident that Chaos is going to get his ICS build perfected with everything working, I mean, look how far he has gotten so far. I wouldn't count on DG though. Too many broken promises.
As for Jellybean. The source code isn't even released yet. Just the update for the galaxy nexus and the sdk. Sdk ports will never be as good as source builds so forget about that. When the source is released for JB I don't think it will be too hard to get an AOSP build going seeing as we already have a good ICS build. The leap wasn't as big from ICS to JB as it was from GB to ICS. So in theory, we will probably get JB (I can't speak for the other developers) sometime after the source is released.
So just sit back, be patient and keep track of any news
This is getting silly. Really! I think it is best to just cut the loses & buy something new. I think the turn around for new OS'a is shortening. I mean ICS isn't even a year old. I've learnt my lesson.
My next contract will only be 12 months. & I will dump the limping HTC brand for something else. That way I won't be disappointed.
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j510 said:
I think you should just give it up. What makes you think we ll get 4.1,if like you said we don't even have a good ics Rom. If you realy want buy a nexus 7. It's 199 so the price is very reasonable
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I was kind of hoping DG would actually do something...
However, I have been positively surprised with other developers before. Honestly I don't want another tablet either.
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I'm pretty confident that Chaos is going to get his ICS build perfected with everything working, I mean, look how far he has gotten so far. I wouldn't count on DG though. Too many broken promises.
As for Jellybean. The source code isn't even released yet. Just the update for the galaxy nexus and the sdk. Sdk ports will never be as good as source builds so forget about that. When the source is released for JB I don't think it will be too hard to get an AOSP build going seeing as we already have a good ICS build. The leap wasn't as big from ICS to JB as it was from GB to ICS. So in theory, we will probably get JB (I can't speak for the other developers) sometime after the source is released.
So just sit back, be patient and keep track of any news
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Yes, I suppose all hope is lost with DG. A shame he was given money to do it, when he couldn't. Anyways, I hope we get either...
MrS600L said:
This is getting silly. Really! I think it is best to just cut the loses & buy something new. I think the turn around for new OS'a is shortening. I mean ICS isn't even a year old. I've learnt my lesson.
My next contract will only be 12 months. & I will dump the limping HTC brand for something else. That way I won't be disappointed.
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I personally want to use my device as long as the hardware is okay. (I still have my HTC hero, haha.) I think the lesson here is to buy a device that has loads of rom developers.
Anyways, thanks for all the replies!
Man everyone is obsessing over jelly bean...why? It's a minor update.. its a miracle chaos got ics running on this device, asking for jelly bean is a new monster. Id rather the focus be on getting ics perfect for the tablet than start over on a new monster. And idk about jelly beans New tablet mode, Id prefer the tablet ui that was introduced with honeycomb.
Thing is google cranks out new android versions quickly. People won't keep this tab forever, including developers. So the best possible experience that takes full advantage of the flyers hardware needs to be the goal not desperately trying to scrape together parts to get another version of android on the tab. Really I'm fine with honeycomb aside from the lag, and ioiwillio is working on that and so far so good
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I think I'd rather get ICS running properly too.
Jelly Bean does not have a landscape home screen, which is weird.
The emphasis on voice and search is getting too much for me too. I feel like Jelly Bean was designed to collect information about you. It is getting too big brotherish.
It sounds great to get a Nexus 7 maybe 16g at least. I don't know if they have sdcard slot, that would awesome. The HTC EVO View still has great potential as a school tool. I take it everywhere take notes, make beats, do homework, watch movies, listen to music, text everyone and email. I hardly carry my phone to school or laptop. I think its still very functional, even the Gingerbread works fine on this device. I can even code. It's definitively not a 12 core that I treasure so much as to not carry it outside my home in sunny Southern California.
I would rather use telepathy but I'm stuck in a Dark Age.
Big Bro indeed. As much as I like Google, their goal of collecting all information is frightening. Information is power - someone with too much power is a tyrant.
I would rather use telepathy but I'm stuck in a Dark Age.
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I'm pretty confident that Chaos is going to get his ICS build perfected with everything working, I mean, look how far he has gotten so far. I wouldn't count on DG though. Too many broken promises.
As for Jellybean. The source code isn't even released yet. Just the update for the galaxy nexus and the sdk. Sdk ports will never be as good as source builds so forget about that. When the source is released for JB I don't think it will be too hard to get an AOSP build going seeing as we already have a good ICS build. The leap wasn't as big from ICS to JB as it was from GB to ICS. So in theory, we will probably get JB (I can't speak for the other developers) sometime after the source is released.
So just sit back, be patient and keep track of any news
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AS Gumby said earlier i do not think it is too hard to do, i am not even sure it requires Kernel changes in order to get it working, i believe that it can share the same kernel as AOSP ICS, however don't quote me on this. I will have a look at this with whoever decides to develop
@Gumby you up for this ? ?
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lawguy said:
I think I'd rather get ICS running properly too.
Jelly Bean does not have a landscape home screen, which is weird.
The emphasis on voice and search is getting too much for me too. I feel like Jelly Bean was designed to collect information about you. It is getting too big brotherish.
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This could be fixed i believe, (Not by me) as i don't really know much about the APK's at all. But i beleive it is possible, the same code from an ICS lockscreen apk would work and also i believe a lot of the ICS APK's would work as this is not a major API level only a slight step up, however i could be incorrect.
Yeah actually the 10 inch layout for jellybean is classic honeycomb style and they've already found out on the nexus tablet its just a matter of rooting and changing the dpi
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Cor-master said:
Yeah actually the 10 inch layout for jellybean is classic honeycomb style and they've already found out on the nexus tablet its just a matter of rooting and changing the dpi
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Do you have a link for that??
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not an exact link but I have the thread where it's discussed. They cracked open the sdk and found out that info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736841
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not an exact link but I have the thread where it's discussed. They cracked open the sdk and found out that info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736841
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According to what I have been reading an ICS kernel will work with a jellybean rom so I might start working on that soon
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According to what I have been reading an ICS kernel will work with a jellybean rom so I might start working on that soon
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cool. with a jelly bean rom I might just keep the flyer and pass on the nexus all together!
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ioiwillioi said:
This could be fixed i believe, (Not by me) as i don't really know much about the APK's at all. But i beleive it is possible, the same code from an ICS lockscreen apk would work and also i believe a lot of the ICS APK's would work as this is not a major API level only a slight step up, however i could be incorrect.
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Yes. It seems like I am wrong about it anyway. There IS a landscape mode in the UI.
I am thinking about ordering one. It is a shame because the Flyer has better hardware in some respects (rear camera, SD slot, MHL support). But, Nexus 7 hardware is good enough and, most importantly, it has Google supporting it so we will surely get timely software updates for a while at least. Also, I am sure that there will be a ton of Dev activity becasue this is a Google product and will probably be at least moderately successful.
Hope the community of flyer grow stronger and stronger. Anyway it is not old enough to die, with all this, All the flyer will have a longer life:fingers-crossed:
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According to what I have been reading an ICS kernel will work with a jellybean rom so I might start working on that soon
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We need a ICS kernel first, and I was pretty sure the framework changes were rather intensive.
From what I can gather, the changes between HC and ICS and hell compared to the minor update from ICS to JB. If we can get a working ICS build for the Flyer, JB will seem like a piece of cake.
Back to the UI discussion, I'm actually a fan of the layout on the Nexus 7. It's actually more of a traditional phone layout which would work much better on the Flyer if the soft keys were disabled and we could go back to the hardware keys. It would free up the bottom of the screen and give us more usable space.
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From what I can gather, the changes between HC and ICS and hell compared to the minor update from ICS to JB. If we can get a working ICS build for the Flyer, JB will seem like a piece of cake.
Back to the UI discussion, I'm actually a fan of the layout on the Nexus 7. It's actually more of a traditional phone layout which would work much better on the Flyer if the soft keys were disabled and we could go back to the hardware keys. It would free up the bottom of the screen and give us more usable space.
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I'm kinda thinking that too. Ideally what I think would be perfect for the flyer is a launcher with a honeycomb layout that auto rotates to both portrait and landscape and has no dock and the apps and search bar up top just like honeycomb. Then you have the notification bar up top, virtual keys disabled, and hardware keys enabled and bam perfect flyer layout!
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The optimus G got an early port of cm10.1
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/12/16/l...od-10-1-port-stands-to-out-nexus-the-nexus-4/
Let's root for bug fixes and a quick line to the attached version
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Like 2 week old info and its a different version of optimus g. All the optimus gs are are very similar so work on one will effect work on the others to a degree. Keep an eye in the #lg-optimus-g chat room for more up to date info.
Very promising, can't wait to try an AOSP build on this monster phone
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As long as there is something going on I'm relatively content.
We have ICS and it runs fast as any JB phone. I'm through and through content to wait for now.
In my humble opinion, JB is over-rated. I have a Nexus 7 running JB 4.2.1 (the latest). Except for the screen size, I see no upsides to the JB running Nexus 7, compared to ICS on my LGOG. Additionally, if you check the N7 forum here, you will see many, many users frustrated with the laggy performance brought on by OTA updates to 4.2.1.
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In my humble opinion, JB is over-rated. I have a Nexus 7 running JB 4.2.1 (the latest). Except for the screen size, I see no upsides to the JB running Nexus 7, compared to ICS on my LGOG. Additionally, if you check the N7 forum here, you will see many, many users frustrated with the laggy performance brought on by OTA updates to 4.2.1.
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JB is awesome. You can put Google now on ICS but it doesn't work nearly as well as it does on JB. Also, the new quick settings are much nicer. I'm using a rom that lets you customized each one on my gnex.
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JB is awesome. You can put Google now on ICS but it doesn't work nearly as well as it does on JB. Also, the new quick settings are much nicer. I'm using a rom that lets you customized each one on my gnex.
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Not only that we're not going to be running Google released jb, it's going to be made by the cm team which means it'll have subtle tweaks here and there that Google didn't think of
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Not only that we're not going to be running Google released jb, it's going to be made by the cm team which means it'll have subtle tweaks here and there that Google didn't think of
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Yeah I flashed CM 10.1 on my Captivate last night and quick settings is so awesome. If you have no active notifications, when you swipe down it automatically shows all your quick settings/toggles. I love that you can use the full notification drawer now too. It's gonna be great on the LGOG.
That's awesome. The only thing I'm going to miss is the aspect ratio correction that the stock rom has.
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