Tablet apps not compatible with touchpad?? - TouchPad General

Why is it thy apps made specifically for tablets are incompatible with touchpad. Is this something that will be solved in the future releases of cm7 or ics?
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sLiKK said:
Why is it thy apps made specifically for tablets are incompatible with touchpad. Is this something that will be solved in the future releases of cm7 or ics?
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Google forked Android when they introduced tablets, with 2.3 Gingerbread being designed for phones and 3.0 Honeycomb being only for tablets. As such, while Gingerbread and earlier apps could run on honeycomb, the reverse wasnt true. Honeycomb also didn't have its source released until very recently.
Because of that, CM7 is based on Gingerbread, so we dont get tablet apps. ICS 4.0 brings the fork back to one common open source code base, so once we either see a port of vanilla ICS or CM9, we'll have tablet app compatibility.

On the other hand, you can use them just fine on webos so stick with that if you want a tablet experience.

Hmmmmmm......thanks for the explanation. Im excited for ics port to touchpad. Android is making every penny spent on touchpad worth while.
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Why arent there any custom CM7 roms?

I have cm7 running on my tablet and it runs great, but Im wondering why no one has bothered to use its drivers and stuff to port something like Miui or even post up themed tweaked versions of CM7?
Cozy its stilling its alpha stage. Wait for it to become a final version and u will sweethis forum filled up with custom rom's and such...
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Well, at least a public RC. I'm more interested in CM9.
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Leoisright had a good rom going, but it's in closed testing now because of all the idiots not reading directions/ bashing his work.
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mindstormmaster1 said:
I have cm7 running on my tablet and it runs great, but Im wondering why no one has bothered to use its drivers and stuff to port something like Miui or even post up themed tweaked versions of CM7?
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Would this qualify as a tweaked version of CM7?
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/hp-touchpad-new-android-rom-team-xron/
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i was thinking about this the other day, isn't it taking alot longer than usual, compared to let's say a HD2? That initial hype of porting Android on to the touchpad seems to have died down.
not saying this in an impatient way or demoralizing developers and their hard work, cuz they are doing one heck of a job to get peoplewhat they want most of all on their fondle slab
....is it because not many developers are interested in the touchpad?...couldn't get hold if one?
That said HP's new move of selling touchpads only to developers might work in favour of getting some momentum to port Android on it
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Once we get the ics source all this will be null... Hopefully
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I'd be really interested in seeing a Sense ROM ported from the Puccini/Jetstream. A lot of the hardware is apparently quite similar, and it'd probably make for a better tablet-ified experience while we wait for ICS.
Although, with ICS so close, it's probably not worth it.
ehtoeh said:
Would this qualify as a tweaked version of CM7?
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/hp-touchpad-new-android-rom-team-xron/
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This is the rom that Leoisright made, but is not available right now. I have it loaded and it runs good with only a few bugs.
ace9988 said:
i was thinking about this the other day, isn't it taking alot longer than usual, compared to let's say a HD2?
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ICS source comes out in a couple weeks.
It would be pointless to spend weeks working on a port of something, if the new version comes out shortly.
Devs are just waiting for ICS source to drop.
Plus the HD2 was a totally different scenario.
It was made by one of the largest android phone makers, and the hardware in the phone was similar to its android counterparts.
Why don't you make us one minds?
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scrizz said:
ICS source comes out in a couple weeks.
It would be pointless to spend weeks working on a port of something, if the new version comes out shortly.
Devs are just waiting for ICS source to drop.
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Hopefully that's how it happens
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ace9988 said:
Hopefully that's how it happens
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scrizz said:
ICS source comes out in a couple weeks.
It would be pointless to spend weeks working on a port of something, if the new version comes out shortly.
Devs are just waiting for ICS source to drop.
Plus the HD2 was a totally different scenario.
It was made by one of the largest android phone makers, and the hardware in the phone was similar to its android counterparts.
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I just want stable android which is running on touchpad. Why other tablet are very stable both on android 2.3 and 3.x ? But not happen on tp!
hki_peter said:
I just want stable android which is running on touchpad. Why other tablet are very stable both on android 2.3 and 3.x ? But not happen on tp!
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the Touchpad is not an android tablet!!!
It is a WebOS tablet.
It takes a lot of work to get a different OS working properly.
name me other tablets that have stable android and did not come stock with android.
don't forget the people working on this are not getting paid.
This is not their day job.
scrizz said:
the Touchpad is not an android tablet!!!
It is a WebOS tablet.
It takes a lot of work to get a different OS working properly.
name me other tablets that have stable android and did not come stock with android.
don't forget the people working on this are not getting paid.
This is not their day job.
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Nook Color
mindstormmaster1 said:
Nook Color
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B&N uses a modified version of FroYo for the Nook Color. Source is available for the kernel.
I think another factor is the Touchpad is not easily accessible for some people. Maybe it was easy to get yours, but I had a little bit of trouble. Missed the sales and ended up paying more for mine.
mindstormmaster1 said:
Nook Color
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nook color came with android.....
nice try
I'm happy with what has been posted so far from CM. I haven't had a lot of issues with what has been released. I guess I have too much going on to be concerned with changes to the touchpad. I can patiently wait for ICS to be released. I'd have to imagine it will be easier to work with since it ICS is designed with tablets in mind.
cubbieswin said:
I'm happy with what has been posted so far from CM. I haven't had a lot of issues with what has been released. I guess I have too much going on to be concerned with changes to the touchpad. I can patiently wait for ICS to be released. I'd have to imagine it will be easier to work with since it ICS is designed with tablets in mind.
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ICS is designed as a hybrid with phones and tablets in mind. If you really just want tablet, then use the Honeycomb source which has also just been released.

ICS release, it's mean Honeycomb is over

ICS source already released on market by Google, it's mean Honeycomb is over ?
ICS design running both on mobile phone and Tablet, who's going to use Honeycomb on tablet anymore ?
Since honeycomb source was never released, the only people running it would be tablets that haven't gotten the update, ergo honeycomb will be over once everyone picks up an update
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I had an Asus Transformer on honeycomb, I sold it once CM7 and WebOS could dual boot on the TouchPad.
Honeycomb wasn't as good as WebOS OR CM7 in my opinion....
CM7 is still very buggy and doesnt hav enough tablet optimization
lets patiently wait for ICS
ace9988 said:
Since honeycomb source was never released, the only people running it would be tablets that haven't gotten the update, ergo honeycomb will be over once everyone picks up an update
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Honeycomb source was released....yesterday.
hki_peter said:
ICS source already released on market by Google, it's mean Honeycomb is over ?
ICS design running both on mobile phone and Tablet, who's going to use Honeycomb on tablet anymore ?
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I guess also whos gonna be using froyo or gb anymore since source is out
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Tablets that manufacturers cant be bothered to support maybe
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Lothaen said:
Tablets that manufacturers cant be bothered to support maybe
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*looks at G-Tablet
Sigh...
The transformer prime isnt even released yet and won't be for a couple of more weeks and it will launch with honeycomb lol
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Nburnes said:
Honeycomb source was released....yesterday.
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This makes me laugh. What's matter with Goooogle? I am waiting for ICS running on the TouchPad.
dajogejr said:
I had an Asus Transformer on honeycomb, I sold it once CM7 and WebOS could dual boot on the TouchPad.
Honeycomb wasn't as good as WebOS OR CM7 in my opinion....
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I did the exact same thing about 2 weeks ago. I really didn't like honeycomb at all. I really hope ICS is better. I am going to be truly disappointed if it is a lot like honeycomb. I guess I will be one of the few with Gingerbread on an Evo3D a year from now. Hopefully HTC can get the ugliness gone with Sense.
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/19/cyanogenmod-no-ics-based-cm9-until-aosp-source-drops-shocker/
http://www.oddpattern.com/2011/11/1...ed-on-ics-set-for-release-in-two-months-time/
It is including HP Touchpad ?
Go to CyanogenMod official webpage (http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices) and go to devices, can't find HP Touchpad !
hki_peter said:
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/19/cyanogenmod-no-ics-based-cm9-until-aosp-source-drops-shocker/
http://www.oddpattern.com/2011/11/1...ed-on-ics-set-for-release-in-two-months-time/
It is including HP Touchpad ?
Go to CyanogenMod official webpage (http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices) and go to devices, can't find HP Touchpad !
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That is because it is not merged yet...
Nburnes said:
Honeycomb source was released....yesterday.
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Honeycomb Source was released because it had to be released due to Open Source Licensing. (GPL & LGPL)
Even thought the development of Honeycomb has pretty much dead ended with ICS source being dropped, to remain in compliance they had to release it.
The only reason they didn't, as I understand it, is it still being a bit buggy and the fear of people trying to port it to phones resulting in mass hysteria.
Saintfyre said:
Honeycomb Source was released because it had to be released due to Open Source Licensing. (GPL & LGPL)
Even thought the development of Honeycomb has pretty much dead ended with ICS source being dropped, to remain in compliance they had to release it.
The only reason they didn't, as I understand it, is it still being a bit buggy and the fear of people trying to port it to phones resulting in mass hysteria.
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Actually I believe Android source doesn't have to be released ever, only the kernel does.
Nburnes said:
Honeycomb source was released....yesterday.
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yh i hadn't read the news before i read this thread ;P thank you for advising me
but either way the only people interested in honeycomb would be those two see what elements from honeycomb have been bought to ICS (not visually) but the inside stuff if any.
dajogejr said:
I had an Asus Transformer on honeycomb, I sold it once CM7 and WebOS could dual boot on the TouchPad.
Honeycomb wasn't as good as WebOS OR CM7 in my opinion....
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Why do you guys threat Honeycomb and CM7 as completely different OS? 3.0 is way better than 2.3, its better optimized, runs more smoothly, has more features. CM7 is alpha, its ****, not better than Honeycomb 3.0. It would be cool if someone manage to port honeycomb into our touchpads until CM teams decides to make a ICS port which they have said will take 2 months.
TrueYears said:
Why do you guys threat Honeycomb and CM7 as completely different OS? 3.0 is way better than 2.3, its better optimized, runs more smoothly, has more features. CM7 is alpha, its ****, not better than Honeycomb 3.0. It would be cool if someone manage to port honeycomb into our touchpads until CM teams decides to make a ICS port which they have said will take 2 months.
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+10000 the only reason I bought a touchpad was for ICS not cm7. I figured I would eventually have $100 ICS tablet that works as good if not better then the current tablets out. Cm7 has been fun to play with, web is sucks balls but I just can't wait till cm9
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bballer71418 said:
+10000 the only reason I bought a touchpad was for ICS not cm7. I figured I would eventually have $100 ICS tablet that works as good if not better then the current tablets out. Cm7 has been fun to play with, web is sucks balls but I just can't wait till cm9
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that's right ! only one reason to bought HP Touchpad, it is because of the price is cheap ! if ask my use over US$400 to buy tablet, I will stay away from tablet !
bballer71418 said:
+10000 the only reason I bought a touchpad was for ICS not cm7. I figured I would eventually have $100 ICS tablet that works as good if not better then the current tablets out. Cm7 has been fun to play with, web is sucks balls but I just can't wait till cm9
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the CM are too busy playing BF3 to care about making an alpha 3 or anything for our cheap tablets, quiet honestly I am happy with webOS until there is an ICS port. Sure vanilla webOS sucks major ass but after installing a lot of patches, its pretty good. CM7 alpha on the other hand its not better than webOS. If you guys want a cheap tablet for media, buy that India 50 dollar tablet that actually can play youtube content smoothly

Progress on CM9?

Anyone know if there is a place to check for cyanogenmod updates? I know no deadlines, but gingerbread is so rough on a tablet.
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I am also interested since I have seen working ports already for my electrify and some progress for the nook color
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look at dalingrin's twitter for updates.
If you're wondering about ICS on the touchpad...look at dalingrin's twitter posts.
If you're looking for CM9, all i know is they've released a pre-alpha version of the launcher from CM9 for Devices with ICS....how far that puts them down the line to finishing it? I do not know but i'm waiting too (impatiently)
Here is the official source of CM news:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
I would imagine any general news on CM9 will be all over once its out. I saw the news on the launcher in at least 3 different sites within hours of the announcement.
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T-Keith said:
Anyone know if there is a place to check for cyanogenmod updates? I know no deadlines, but gingerbread is so rough on a tablet.
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The most obvious place would be:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/:rolleyes:
EDIT: I was reheating dinner, and someone just posted the same while my food was being warmed. Sry for the double post
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Anyone know if there is a place to check for cyanogenmod updates? I know no deadlines, but gingerbread is so rough on a tablet.
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I like how that was worded, it is truly rough. Phone versions of android do work on tablets but its clearly wrong.
The Jack of Clubs said:
I like how that was worded, it is truly rough. Phone versions of android do work on tablets but its clearly wrong.
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Agreed Leo and Scott are doing a great job at developing cm7/MIUI to work on a tablet as best it can.. But it is almost a lost cause since ics is already on a lot of devices....
I'm sure modifying a kanged ROM is a lot easier than making a port/SDK ROM as a lot of the drivers have to be made from scratch... I've given up on android on the TP till ICS. When that happens ill donate a handsome reward to the team that does it.. till then... WebOS will have to do... As I only use it for media/web I'm good for now... I have a EVO 3d for apps and such that android excels in...
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@dalingrin I know you don't give ETAs on anything, but is the ICS build anywhere close to GB Alpha 1? Thanks.
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@SyncV2 Primary issues are GPU rendering under some circumstances and video playback. Hope to finally get back to working on it tonight.

Google Chrome for Android.

According to engadget, Google has just released chrome for select ics devices. I expect, nay DEMAND a port to my DX2 in 3..2..1..
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Looks pretty slick.... ics only.... I assume they will make a version for gb phones.
Sucks it's ICS only. Any ideas on why it took them so long to get the ball going for this on Android? I assume ICS got the first release because of hardware acceleration, but you'd think they'd have a previously working version looooong ago.
Does anyone have the APK? We can try and install it anyways...
Edit:Here's a link
http://db.tt/mXhhmr4R
Does it work for anyone else?
Jubomime said:
According to engadget, Google has just released chrome for select ics devices. I expect, nay DEMAND a port to my DX2 in 3..2..1..
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All the more reason for us X2 users to ***** at Moto/VRZ to update our phones!!! Google needs to take a stand with the manufacturers and carriers over this.
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Does anyone have the APK? We can try and install it anyways...
Edit:Here's a link
http://db.tt/mXhhmr4R
Does it work for anyone else?
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Just to be clear, did it or did it not work for you? I had no success on my X2 or my honeycomb tablet.
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Just to be clear, did it or did it not work for you? I had no success on my X2 or my honeycomb tablet.
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It does not and will not work without some serious hacking from what I've been told.
It does not work.
Heh, it started for me on my cm9 galaxy tab but then forced closed when i tried to search.
Since engadget said SELECT ics devices it wouldn't surprise me if it only works on.. Galaxy nexus for now..
*edit* my mistake, they do NOT specify select ics devices just 4.0 in general.
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It does not and will not work without some serious hacking from what I've been told.
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That's because ICS was a major upgrade from Gingerbread, especially at the kernel level. It was more of a rewrite than an upgrade.
Hence, this is looking for ICS libraries. It's possibly also looking for an ICS kernel which we don't have AND won't have unless Verizon decides to release ICS for the X2.
We are at the mercy of Verizon on this one.
Remember, CM9 will still have the GB kernel, not an ICS one since we cannot replace the kernel due to the locked bootloader. Again, at the mercy of Verizon AND Motorola on the locked bootloader.
I've been waiting for Chrome on Android for the entire time I've had an Android (about a year and a half). I just came across an article about on another website, read the whole thing with excitement, and then shot a baby when I read it was only for ICS. WTF?! That's very disappointing to me. Any thoughts as to why they did that? Maybe because it's beta and wanted limited exposure at first?
If they just now started working on getting chrome out then it really doesn't make sense to release it on gingerbread and ics. I would expect that it would be released for their newer os rather than the one that is going to be phased out. Maybe once they get all the bugs worked out they will release a version usable on gingerbread, so phones that won't be updated, or even new phones that aren't as powerful as the phones sporting ics, will be able to use it.
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Works great on my stock xoom running ICS.
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I just found our also that this doesn't support flash and it never will. As far as browsers go many people are sticking to opera.
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I love, currently using it as my default browser. Switching between tabs is way too entertaining XP
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I've been able to use it on my ICS Xoom, and let me say, it is amazing. Comparable to the PC version in terms of performance. I think we should be able to use it with CM9, whenever that is released.
Adobe isn't supporting flash anymore for mobile devices so that makes sense
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I've been able to use it on my ICS Xoom, and let me say, it is amazing. Comparable to the PC version in terms of performance. I think we should be able to use it with CM9, whenever that is released.
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Because we are stuck on the gingerbread kernel, CM9 may not work unless Motorola releases ICS for DX2. As stated earlier, apk needs libraries from the ICS kernel. The only other option is to hack the actual apk.

Jellybean for touchpad??

I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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vipaman said:
I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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it is possible... theres somebody on the evo 3D doing it, same chipset so its not a far fetched idea.....whether we get a working version, who knows, we'll have to wait for the cm team like last time and they never do things without source, and if anybody wants to port it via SDK, good luck i guess cuz i dont think anybody tried SDK ports for ICS on the touchpad
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it is possible... theres somebody on the evo 3D doing it, same chipset so its not a far fetched idea.....whether we get a working version, who knows, we'll have to wait for the cm team like last time and they never do things without source, and if anybody wants to port it via SDK, good luck i guess cuz i dont think anybody tried SDK ports for ICS on the touchpad
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And since Jelly Bean is just like a small step from ICS.... It shouldn't be that hard.... Only project butter stands in our way...
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vipaman said:
I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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They use unmodified cm9 kernel
So we just need someone to compile the sdk
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sahhar1993 said:
They use unmodified cm9 kernel
So we just need someone to compile the sdk
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We could contact the cm team but I guess they would not build the sdk one....so we will need to contact other devs
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vipaman said:
And since Jelly Bean is just like a small step from ICS.... It shouldn't be that hard.... Only project butter stands in our way...
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don't be saying things down that road lol...you'll get alot of backlash like the e3d forums.....froyo to gingerbread wasn't a huge step but it took people a very long time. Lets just wait for source to be out next month it isnt a very long time. Then since the base framework is similar, it won't take that much longer then it should. I'm more interested in the PDK feature which gives basic source codes for the hardware side of things, exciting times
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don't be saying things down that road lol...you'll get alot of backlash like the e3d forums.....froyo to gingerbread wasn't a huge step but it took people a very long time. Lets just wait for source to be out next month it isnt a very long time. Then since the base framework is similar, it won't take that much longer then it should. I'm more interested in the PDK feature which gives basic source codes for the hardware side of things, exciting times
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U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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vipaman said:
U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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Porting anything from the SDK has always been horrible, its not that easy and even if it were that isn't to say it'll be any good.
Remember those SDK ports of Honeycomb...horrendous. There's a reason nobody bothered with an SDK port of ICS for the Touchpad...there terrible.
I'm fine with just waiting until source code is ready. Unlike the switch from GB to ICS on a tablet which was huge, JB isn't really groundbreaking. It has some nice new features but after playing around in the SDK for a while I didn't really see anything that I couldn't wait a few months for.
vipaman said:
U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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I understand it perfectly......it is a small step yes, but in the grand scheme of things when you get an SDK port, when has it always worked perfectly?? If we're testing proof of concept here i can understand but you people want jelly bean to use straight away and to tinker with it. Devs I think have lives and if someone wanted to do it, they would've done it by now cuz its already being booted (albeit black screen) on the one x. Instead of the frustration of porting something using SDK they'd rather wait for source, because then people will start complaining that "this doesn't work, that doesn't work" so on and so forth
Anyone else think it's weird how they went back to the phone layout for the nexus 7? Will it be that way on larger tablets? I'm not a huge fan of how notifications work on my touchpad but the controls may be hard to reach if they go with a phone layout.
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I'd like to mess with SDK port. If a dev would do it. The port for one x has already been updated. They are really going at it...even if they know it wont ever fully work. Maybe they are just getting head start on development.
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its a waste of time. why would any dev spend their time on it,just to have to start over when the real source
comes out.
Why don't you ask the one x dev working on SDK port why he is deving it? Jb source will be out in 2 weeks.
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People do it because they want to. Why should that affect others?
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T-Keith said:
Anyone else think it's weird how they went back to the phone layout for the nexus 7? Will it be that way on larger tablets? I'm not a huge fan of how notifications work on my touchpad but the controls may be hard to reach if they go with a phone layout.
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while the current tablet ui layout is mostly functional, its not very pretty and a bit disjointed when coming from a phone version of android. it also doesnt allow manufacturers to put physical buttons on a tablet without them being redundant, and is called fragmented when compared to the ios on the iphone to ipad. it wouldnt surprise me if they went with this design as their new tablet layout. and it probably wouldnt be as bad as you think. with future cm9 or aokp customizations, youll probably be able to adjust the positions of the nav bar however you want.
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while the current tablet ui layout is mostly functional, its not very pretty and a bit disjointed when coming from a phone version of android. it also doesnt allow manufacturers to put physical buttons on a tablet without them being redundant, and is called fragmented when compared to the ios on the iphone to ipad. it wouldnt surprise me if they went with this design as their new tablet layout. and it probably wouldnt be as bad as you think. with future cm9 or aokp customizations, youll probably be able to adjust the positions of the nav bar however you want.
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I've long thought that the tablet UI for large tablets makes a lot of sense as if straddles the ground between desktop and phone quite nicely. Google aren't making the Nexus 7 UI default for these tablets either, if you emulate a touchpad withe the sdk then you get the UI we have now. On my small A100 the layout is pretty poor, and of course the resolution isn't all that great either but it's so crowded. The Nexus 7 UI works out nicely for smaller screens I think
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Yeah I tried a Galaxy tab 7 at the store yesterday and the ics tablet mode is a little tight. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing for a 7" tablet.
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Does that mean that all the work that has been done so far to get a working camera and microphone on ICS for the TP will go to waste with a new firmware?
kalala said:
Does that mean that all the work that has been done so far to get a working camera and microphone on ICS for the TP will go to waste with a new firmware?
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No, it shouldn't be a waste. ICS is 4.0.x, JB is 4.1.x and is a refined ICS. So all the progress should be able to migrate over.
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