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hi,
I quite like the new xperia ray and I was wondering some hands-on feedback (ie its responsiveness, speed etc).
in addition, a picture of Xperia Ray next to iPhone4 would be a treat. its not too big or too small as far as i gather.
@LP said:
hi,
I quite like the new xperia ray and I was wondering some hands-on feedback (ie its responsiveness, speed etc).
in addition, a picture of Xperia Ray next to iPhone4 would be a treat. its not too big or too small as far as i gather.
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It's simply lovely
Design is great, its light and nimble.
Screen is gorgeous, with 300dpi vs iphone's 330dpi, you can't see any difference.
3d games like guerilla bob run smoother on Ray.
compared to iphone it's lighter, less tall and much narrower.
Frankly iphone4 compared to ray shows it's age and bulkness, while Ray is shiny and modern piece of hardware.
I'm moving from Xperia X8, and comparison is pointless.
While I always wanted to "improve" X8 to make it usable, Ray is fine as it is, usable and fast. Battery life is phenomenal for Android devices, camera is great, sound is loud.
I'm sure if you get one, you will not regret.
Good luck!
I'm glad that you are raving about the xRay...
I'm getting mine tomorrow already paid my deposit for a white one...
You mentioned the camera is working great, just wonder if you've encountered any negative point coz I have read a few reviews which all have some negative things to say about the camera...thanks
got a full specs sheet?
My Xperience with Xperia
I second only some parts of the previous review.
1) The phone is beautiful, iPhone next to it looks old. Performance are very good, phone is fast. Software is ok, the Sony customization is not invasive at all.
2) Battery life is not really good in my experience. Up to now I did not manage even to do one full day. Screen is nice, but pretty scratch prone. I ordered a cover but after a week I have already some scratches (this drives me mad)
Hope it help.
Francesco
O...I thought the screen was scratch resistance...as it was mentioned in the specification section of a pretty well known phone web site...
I would have thought in these day and age...no one want a phone with screen that is prone to scratching...
I guess I should get a screen protector before start using mine...
I actually discovered that the screen comes already with a screen protector preinstalled
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racht said:
It's simply lovely
Design is great, its light and nimble.
Screen is gorgeous, with 300dpi vs iphone's 330dpi, you can't see any difference.
3d games like guerilla bob run smoother on Ray.
compared to iphone it's lighter, less tall and much narrower.
Frankly iphone4 compared to ray shows it's age and bulkness, while Ray is shiny and modern piece of hardware.
I'm moving from Xperia X8, and comparison is pointless.
While I always wanted to "improve" X8 to make it usable, Ray is fine as it is, usable and fast. Battery life is phenomenal for Android devices, camera is great, sound is loud.
I'm sure if you get one, you will not regret.
Good luck!
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I'd like t know your experience with the camera, specifically:
1.- is there a dedicated camera button ??
2.- is the flash a REAL flash ?? (I mean the flash light up when you press the shutter or automatic flash mode vs "turn the light on or off" only)
Thank you
1. No
2. No. fixed light.
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midoriconcept said:
1. No
2. No. fixed light.
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I think the auto-flash could be enbled by third party apps like vignette, has anybody tested ??
gtrab said:
I think the auto-flash could be enbled by third party apps like vignette, has anybody tested ??
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Vignette enables the flash 2 seconds before taking a picture, so no real auto flash.
I agree on the great battery life, the power save modus is incredible. 24 hours ago on 7% and now for 3 hours on 1%.
Got my Ray bricked already yesterday after an OTA update with unlocked bootloader, didn't know about that. Luckily I found this and this thread and now he's up and running again on 2.3.4 rooted.
I have 2 negative remarks though:
-I have the feeling that the 2.3.4 update made it a little bit less snappy.
- WIFI keeps flippin out on me. I think it's better/solved with 2.3.4, but with 2.3.3, it kept losing its connection without showing it in the notification bar. I had to disable and enable wifi again every time or even reboot. I even had to reboot my router because my PC's couldn't connect anymore. I googled and there are more people with this problem.
I find that the camera to have purple fringing problem, especially shooting indoors or night scene...white appeared to turn purplish...
The photo light is a tat annoying, I wonder if it can be changed to a flash...using software mod...
it will be great if someone can comment on the in call volume!
Also known as Sony Ericsson Urushi
GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 2100 - ST18i
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - ST18a
Announced 2011, June
Status Available. Released 2011, August
SIZE Dimensions 111 x 53 x 9.4 mm
Weight 100 g
DISPLAY Type LED-backlit LCD, capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 854 pixels, 3.3 inches (~297 ppi pixel density)
- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
- Bravia Mobile engine
- Multi-touch input method
- Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
- Touch sensitive controls
- Scratch-resistant display
- Timescape UI
SOUND Alert types Vibration, MP3 ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
MEMORY Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
Call records Practically unlimited
Internal 1 GB (300 MB user available), 512 MB RAM
Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 4GB included, buy memory
DATA GPRS Up to 86 kbps
EDGE Up to 237 kbps
3G HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.8 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP, EDR
Infrared port No
USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
CAMERA Primary 8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, face and smile detection, touch focus, image stabilization
Video Yes, 720p, video light, check quality
Secondary Yes
FEATURES OS Android OS, v2.3 (Gingerbread)
CPU 1GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, MSM8255 Snapdragon chipset
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push email, IM
Browser HTML
Radio Stereo FM radio with RDS
Games Yes
Colors Black, Gold, White, Pink
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
- Digital compass
- SNS integration
- MP4/H.263/H.264 player
- MP3/eAAC+/WAV player
- TrackID music recognition
- SensMe
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk
- Document viewer
- Adobe flash 10.1 support
- Voice memo
- Predictive text input
BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 430 h (2G) / Up to 440 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 6 h 50 min (2G) / Up to 7 h (3G)
Music play Up to 36 h
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hey guys,
i´m also interested in the xperia ray.....sure the no camera flash is a little letdown but i´m worried more about the 300 mb storage. how do you handle that?? is it enough or way too small or maybe with app2sd?
would appreciate some user feedback
problem is i´m very picky when it comes to smartphone and i don´t wanna spend 400-500 euro for a so called high-end device that i don´t like 100%. the xperia ray seems like a good price/value phone
monkeytown said:
hey guys,
i´m also interested in the xperia ray.....sure the no camera flash is a little letdown but i´m worried more about the 300 mb storage. how do you handle that?? is it enough or way too small or maybe with app2sd?
would appreciate some user feedback
problem is i´m very picky when it comes to smartphone and i don´t wanna spend 400-500 euro for a so called high-end device that i don´t like 100%. the xperia ray seems like a good price/value phone
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I Installed few games, few keyboards ime, overall just downloaded ~16 apps. Right now i have 227mb used and 193mb free.
Most apps can be moved to SD, but I think this phone is best for those who just use it to talk and the occasional smartphone activity. It's only 3.3 inch screen isn't suitable for a power-user.
BTW in-call volume is superb, answering myself from above; I used the service menu and tested the earphone side by side with my x10 and what can I say? 2011 SE have much higher quality parts compared to 2009/10.
I'd like to see NFC , HD Resolution and 3.5 inch screen! because its a ray :
-3.5 Inch Screen
-HD Resolution imagen the ppi!!!! current ppi of xperia ray is 296ppi bump to 416 ppi!!!
-Waterproof??
-1Gb Ram
-NFC
-Part of NXT series (plz?)
-1.5 Ghz Dual Proccessor
-Play Station Certified!
That would make an ultimate phone which is small thin and cute XD
Yeah, but Sony first has to invent a "Shrink"gun .... you know why
lolS but it may be possible in the future
You are aware of the Xperia U right ?
More like xperia SX. Too bad it is japan only.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/05/09/xperia-gx-and-xperia-sx-announced-by-sony-mobile-japan/
right
but what do you want to see in ray 2 or ray s or ray s2
This one looks quite the same as Ray but with better hardware:
Sony Xperia SX SO-05D
sorry, didn't check the entire page from previous SX link
yeah, the next Ray is SX.
If they release it world wide, the phone top will be narrower (without tv antenna) which is making the phone look surprising handsome
Xperia ion HSPA. It is goddamn cool.
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3.5', NFC, video-out, 1gb ram, dual core (open), hd screen, under 9mm
Physical aspect of the next ray that i want
- Same curve shape
- Small dimension (sx size is okay, just slightly bigger).
- Physical home button and button arrangement (It's better than the transparent strip of nxt series In my opinion)
- Dedicated Camera Button
It would be nice if we can have a small dedicated keyboard to plug inside micro usb slot and double as external battery/charger
I want Megan Fox in next version...
jjdoctor said:
I want Megan Fox in next version...
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ROFL ,,, I guess we all want that
I would like it to have the same design but with a larger ram and more internal memory and a higher mp camera oh and a better speaker
Sent from my Xperia ray using xda premium
Hmm, a dedicated keyboard, better cpu and more ram
(1000th post, yay)
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mm xperia SX, i love this phone, is the real succesor of the RAY.
Same design, more hardware.
Design makes it Ray. Not others.
1. Same size and body shape. Even 3.5" is much bigger. And current body style is very beautiful, distinguishable.
2. 1Gb RAM, maybe faster CPU - just to run ICS smoothly. Ok, let it be two cores, just because of current marketing trends...
3. Dust and water resistant. Without that ugly yellow/orange pastic/rubber everywhere, diving ability, IP67 etc. I just want to not be afraid of rain when I'm riding my bycicle, camping, sleeping drank on the street
4. Same MicroSD slot. I hate when they remove card support and put ugly 8GB of ROM inside, while my current music collection is about 10Gb. C'mon, guys, flash memory costs nothing now, why do you create such stupid limits?!
That's all. I don't need higher camera and screen resolution, better sound, camera button and so on.
Current Xperia model line doesn't contains something I can call "Ray 2.0". They do great top models, but it's too big for me. They do very interesting and fresh design, but use limited hardware (480x320 screen, limited ROM, 512 RAM...)
So Ray stays unique, stays best for my needs.
I too like the Xperia SX.
If they give it a slightly more angular look like the ray has then that'd be my next phone...
I was thinking ... hmm the ray would be a lot better with MHL, 1gb Ram and NFC... Ah hello Xperia SX
That said I'll be holding on to my Ray until christmas at least... Perhaps I'll take a Samsung GS3 at that time... Unless Sony sells the SX in Europe :-D
Does the SX have an Led notifier?
Hey guys this is a detailed list, the Xperia Z was just announced so going of GSMarena specs, if there are any errors plz correct the list, thanks!
Nexus 10
Higher resolution
Higher PPI
Wi-Fi Direct?
Direct updates
Stock Android
More Ergonomic? (rubber rounded back)
Xperia z tab
LTE/4G
Lighter
Thinner
Premium Design
Dust proof
Water proof
S-Force surround sound
microSD
Wi-Fi hotpot
Infrared port
Blutooth 4.0
8mp camera
LED flash
2.2 front camera
cyprusx said:
Hey guys this is a detailed list, the Xperia Z was just announced so going of GSMarena specs, if there are any errors plz correct the list, thanks!
Nexus 10
Higher resolution
Higher PPI
Wi-Fi Direct?
Direct updates
Stock Android
More Ergonomic? (rubber rounded back)
Xperia z tab
LTE/4G
Lighter
Thinner
Premium Design
Dust proof
Water proof
S-Force surround sound
microSD
Wi-Fi hotpot
Infrared port
Blutooth 4.0
8mp camera
LED flash
2.2 front camera
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Xperia Z for me please!
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app
Will have better colors on the Z tablet
I don't think the price will be the same :fingers-crossed: and it's not gonna get updated that fast
cyprusx said:
Hey guys this is a detailed list, the Xperia Z was just announced so going of GSMarena specs, if there are any errors plz correct the list, thanks!
Nexus 10
Higher resolution
Higher PPI
Wi-Fi Direct?
Direct updates
Stock Android
More Ergonomic? (rubber rounded back)
Xperia z tab
LTE/4G
Lighter
Thinner
Premium Design
Dust proof
Water proof
S-Force surround sound
microSD
Wi-Fi hotpot
Infrared port
Blutooth 4.0
8mp camera
LED flash
2.2 front camera
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N10 has LED flash as well, and 4.0 bluetooth.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
The resolution on the XZ is better than the N10 because it's more practical. At 10+ inches away you won't see the difference in PPI between the two displays. And the lower resolution (but still FHD) display will use less CPU/GPU power and battery. Speaking of battery, 6,000 mAh is pretty small for a 10.1" tablet with a S4 Pro CPU and FHD display. That could be the XZ's Achilles Heal. The rest of the specs are indeed impressive.
Stock Android and stock Nexus are so good and at such a low price that they will keep me happy whilst I receive the timely Android updates
Naturally, a newer tablet will be better than an older tablet at least hardware wise or else it wouldn't sell.
That said, the Xperia Tablet Z will probably do better than the Nexus 10 in probably almost all aspects except development, text clarity, and possibly line-out (headphone) sound quality. Image clarity and such is much better suited for a 1080p screen unless there is a sudden surge and revolution of 1440p+ displays in this coming year.
ady_seray said:
N10 has LED flash as well, and 4.0 bluetooth.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
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According to numerous sources and GSMarena the nexus 10 has 3.0
If I need 4G/LTE, I'll just tether it to my Verizon phone I already have.
Otherwise, I see nothing in that list which would cause me to jump ship or even give a second thought about.
More than happy with the design and engineering on the N10.
404 ERROR said:
Naturally, a newer tablet will be better than an older tablet at least hardware wise or else it wouldn't sell.
That said, the Xperia Tablet Z will probably do better than the Nexus 10 in probably almost all aspects except development, text clarity, and possibly line-out (headphone) sound quality. Image clarity and such is much better suited for a 1080p screen unless there is a sudden surge and revolution of 1440p+ displays in this coming year.
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There's a similar debate about the value of PPI going on in the DNA forums. It matters less than you think. This is from that discussion...
BarryH_GEG said:
The biggest discussion point for newer devices like the N10 and now the DNA/Butterfly are their awesome displays. The thing people lose sight of (no pun intended) is that the human eye is only capable of processing and resolving images at a certain level. Any detail beyond that level is literally wasted. The 20/20 human eye has a maximum visual acuity of 1 arcminute. That is, two points must subtend an angle greater than 1 arcminute in order for a 20/20 eye to resolve the two points. What this means for displays is that pixels must have an angular subtense of 1 arcminute or greater in order for your eye to resolve the detail in the content. Detail below 1 arcminute isn't perceived by the human eye any differently whether a display has 267 PPI or 441 PPI. This is the reason Apple landed on the resolution they did hence the name "retina display." For example, the N2 has an arcminute subtense of 1.073 arcminutes which is nearly perfect and it has a PPI of 267. The DNA has an acrminute subtense of .66 and PPI of 441 which is a waste because anything below "1" can't be resolved by the human eye.
So super high definition displays are more a marketing gimmick, draw more CPU power, and drain the battery faster with the end result being your eyes won't notice any difference. I don't know what the exact numbers are for the Note and N10 but at 147 PPI the Note's above 1 arcminute and at 299 PPI the N10's below it. So you'll notice a difference on text and CGI (but not images and video) but it's not as pronounced as some people here have said unless they have super-human vision. And with the new fixation on resolution things like brightness, contrast, and color accuracy get swept under the rug because all people are focusing on is a PPI count rather than the actual quality of the display. In those areas the Note’s display outperforms the N10’s. And the 1080P display on the DNA isn’t as good in those areas as the 720P display on the One X it's supposedly better than. Remember that when you're salivating over a 441 PPI 1080P smartphone that’s going to be hyped to death this year.
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orangechoochoo said:
I bet if the Note2 had a 1080 screen owners would brag about it instead of saying that you can't tell the difference. If we cannot discern the difference between 720 and 1080 way is the S4 and other phones coming out with 1080 since it makes no difference?
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BarryH_GEG said:
You realize that with the human eye being the lowest common denominator the selection of PPI is being done ass backwards? Deciding on the optimum PPI for any given device should be an arithmatec equation; not manufacturers arbitrarily pulling numbers our of thier butts to out-feature each other. The above posts that talk about what the human eye can process are irrefutable fact. With an arcminute of "1" ideal for the human eye to process detail, the manufacturers should pick the lowest PPI that acheives "1" arcminute at 10-12" away which is the typical distance a smartphone is viewed. Why the lowest? Because the higher the PPI the bigger the drain on the battery, GPU, and CPU. And why reduce the performance of a device when the end result is the human eye can't process the additional detail being provided anyway? In addition, to achieve higher PPI, displays are suffering in brightness, contrast, and color reproduction. But nobody cares because they get to tell their friends "look, I've got a 1080P display!" Based on the numbers, outside of PPI, the One X has a better display than the DNA. It wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happened between the SGS3's 720P display and the SGS4's 1080P display (unless SAMOLED scales differently). In the end none of this matters because whether it makes sense or not we're all going to end up with 1080P displays one way or the other because that's where manufacturer's marketing is taking us.
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And this is a good article explaining why pics and videos won't seem any sharper on a 720P, 1080P, or the N10's unique resolution display. And everything gets upscaled on the N10 which doesn't help with detail and image quality.
For most people, though, it won't matter. Photos are inherently fuzzy, so it won’t matter whether they’re viewed on a 1920×1080 or 1280×720 smartphone display; you’ll still see their imperfections. "Even the tiniest image detail in a photograph is always spread over more than one pixel," Dr. Soneira explained in a follow-up e-mail. "The image detail is never perfectly aligned with the pixel structure of the display." Videos are even worse: not only are they fuzzy like photographs, but the pictures are constantly moving. Even if the images were sharp, the human brain couldn’t zero in on content that’s appearing for only a fraction of a second on such a small display. "For ordinary viewing of videos, 1920×1080 is really not going to make a visual difference," adds Dr. Soneira.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/10/1080p-on-a-smartphone-screencan-it-possibly-matter/
I skimmed through your post and I apologize beforehand if I'm missing some nuances in your post, but I think you misread my post completely. The only thing that can really make use of a 1440p screen at this moment is text which is why I mentioned "text clarity." It is also why I said, if there is a sudden surge of 1440p displays, the N10's high resolution will be better than 1080p. This is simply because 1080p displays will be considered old tech and designers and such will move on to support 1440p displays. The chances of 1440p being adopted to be the standard this year is probably 0%.
I never said it mattered. In fact I always thought PPI is a gimmick and will always be a gimmick beyond 220ish.
Also, just to put it out there, I maintain a theme to up-res the icons on the N10 so those icons don't get upscaled; I'm pretty sure I know what drawbacks there are with having such a high resolution screen.
Another thing - you talk about image quality, but you quote someone talking about photos. Things that are drawn on a computer will be clearer than a photo by a long shot. Those types of images can take advantage of such a high resolution screen. Photography on the other hand really doesn't matter what resolution you view it on for the reason you quoted.
404 ERROR said:
The only thing that can really make use of a 1440p screen at this moment is text.
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I just threw that info out there because I thought people would find it interesting; it wasn't directed at you per se. And at 10" away text won't look any better on the N10 than it would on the XZ. And that has nothing to do with the display's themselves, it's all about why the human eye can discern. As an example, at that distance, text looks no worse on the N2's 720P display than it does on the DNA's 1080P display based solely on the N2's ability to achieve a subtense of 1 arcmiture at 267PPI. Only if the N10's display is closer to 1 arcminute (below it doesn't matter) than the NZ's would you notice a difference. Now if you hold it 5" away or look at it under a microscope you'll see a difference.
BarryH_GEG said:
I just threw that info out there because I thought people would find it interesting; it wasn't directed at you per se. And at 10" away text won't look any better on the N10 than it would on the XZ. And that has nothing to do with the display's themselves, it's all about why the human eye can discern. As an example, at that distance, text looks no worse on the N2's 720P display than it does on the DNA's 1080P display based solely on the N2's ability to achieve a subtense of 1 arcmiture at 267PPI. Only if the N10's display is closer to 1 arcminute (below it doesn't matter) than the NZ's would you notice a difference. Now if you hold it 5" away or look at it under a microscope you'll see a difference.
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You're right in that if you hold it 10" away you won't see a difference. Unfortunately not all people do and there will always be people who can discern that difference.
I am also considering the Xperia Z tablet against the Nexus 10, here's a better comparison (taken from GSMArena).
Nexus 10
General 2G Network N/A
SIM No
Body Dimensions 263.9 x 177.6 x 8.9 mm (10.39 x 6.99 x 0.35 in)
Weight 603 g (1.33 lb)
Display Type Super PLS TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 2560 x 1600 pixels, 10.1 inches (~299 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 2
Sound Alert types N/A
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot No
Internal 16/32 GB, 2 GB RAM
Data GPRS No
EDGE No
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA
Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP
NFC Yes, dual side
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
Camera Primary 5 MP, 2592х1936 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection
Video Yes, [email protected], check quality
Secondary Yes, 1.9 MP
Features OS Android OS, v4.2 (Jelly Bean), upgradable to v4.2.1 (Jelly Bean)
Chipset Exynos 5250
CPU Dual-core 1.7 GHz Cortex-A15
GPU Mali-T604
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer
Messaging Email, Push Email, IM, RSS
Browser HTML5
Radio No
GPS Yes, with GLONASS
Java No
Colors Black
- SNS integration
- HDMI port
- MP4/H.264/DivX/WMV player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/WMA/Flac player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Document viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa
- Voice memo
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Non-removable Li-Po 9000 mAh battery
Stand-by Up to 500 h
Talk time Up to 9 h (multimedia)
Misc SAR US 1.38 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.21 W/kg (body)
Price group [About 310 EUR]
Tests Display Contrast ratio: 878 (nominal)
Loudspeaker Voice 68dB / Noise 66dB / Ring 67dB
Audio quality Noise -82.3dB / Crosstalk -81.4dB
Camera Photo / Video
Xperia Z Tablet
General 2G Network
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 2100 / 800
4G Network LTE 1800 / 1500 / 2100
SIM Micro-SIM
Announced 2013, January
Status Coming soon. Exp. release 2013, Q1
Body Dimensions 266 x 172 x 6.9 mm (10.47 x 6.77 x 0.27 in)
Weight 495 g (1.09 lb)
- IP57 certified - dust and water proof
Display Type LED-backlit LCD, capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1200 x 1920 pixels, 10.1 inches (~224 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
- Sony Mobile BRAVIA Engine 2
Sound Alert types N\A
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
- 3D surround sound enhancement
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 64 GB
Internal 32 GB storage, 2 GB RAM
Data GPRS No
EDGE No
Speed HSDPA, 14.4 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 37.5 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, dual-band, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v4.0 with A2DP
NFC Yes
USB Yes, v2.0
Camera Primary 8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection
Video Yes, [email protected]
Secondary Yes, 2.2 MP, [email protected]
Features OS Android OS, v4.1.2 (Jelly Bean), planned upgrade to v4.2 (Jelly Bean)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8064
CPU Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait
GPU Adreno 320
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, compass
Messaging Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS
Browser HTML
Radio No
GPS Yes
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black, White
- SNS integration
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player
- Organizer
- Document viewer
- Photo viewer/editor
- Voice memo
- Predictive text input
Battery Non-removable Li-Po 6000 mAh battery
If it was $399.99 and battery didn't suck I would probably get it. It also depends on whether or not I sell my Nexus 4 for a Xperia Z. My tablet will match my phone. Lol
Also depends on which is available in Canada first. More nexus 10 shipments or the the Xperia Z tablet in Canada
I also wish that they stuck with the 9.4 inch screen of their older models.
Tablet Z will be at least 100$ more so yeah.
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299ppi>224ppi. I can see a big difference between 299 and 224 ppi. I prefer the nexus 10. I want 4k on 10".
lKBZl said:
and it's not gonna get updated that fast
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Sony is one of the most AOSP friendly manufactures out there so I doubt it. I am a Nexus guy for life but Sony builds some quality stuff and are good with updates. As fast as Nexus no, but they won't Samsung it and sit on an update for a year and update it at the same time Google releases that versions replacement.
rookiegenius said:
Tablet Z will be at least 100$ more so yeah.
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The upper-bound threshold's been set by the Note 10.1 (32GB $549), N10 (32GB $499), and TF700 (32GB $499). So with 32GB of storage the Xperia Z won't be more than $499 (the Note gets away with more because of S Pen). If Sony's smart they'll price it at $449 to gain some traction in the market. Asus only sold 250K 10.1" tablets a month in Q3 and the TF300 had a MSRP of $349. High-end Android tablets just don't sell well. The Note 10.1 was selling a million a month in Q3 so that makes it an exception. We'll see if that run rate continued in to Q4 when analysts disect Samsung's earnings. Also keep in mind that the specs shown are for the Japanese market Xperia Z. The global and U.S versions could be different. And until something's confirmed at MWC next month we don't even know for sure if there will be global and U.S. versions.
SONY Xperia Z Ultra 2 [Desired Specifications]-To Encourage Better All-In-One Phones for the Future
I have been looking at developments in mobile phones and the current XZU/ZU GPe and some of the Chinese competition to the big brands and decided to make the following list of desired features in a near-future phablet. I believe a phablet with all the below listed features will definitely be the Ultimate Mobile Phablet. I hope that someone from SONY or any other competitive brand will take notice of the desired specification below to create the best phablet that will stand out from the crowd. My aim is to encourage discussion and draw the attention of manufacturers and I really hope that someone will take notice.
I have also read on various blogs online and also read on XDA that there is a rumour that the XZU/ZU GPe may be discontinued and that a successor may not be released. I really hope that this is not the case and that SONY will release a device that will put all the wrongs of the 1st gen device right and better them. There is not much wrong with the form factor of this device. what is wrong is SONY's implementation or non implementation (lack of led flash, stylus) of features that are important to a growing userbase that is keen to use one device as an all-in-one phone and tablet user.
Given how much space is wasted on the construction of the XZU/ZU GPe, I have decided that since there is not much difference between 6.45" and 6.95" that this size be the most optimum/maximum size for the Phablet category of devices and that any device that starts with 7.0" or above to be in tablet category so I hope that I won't be criticised for this choice of screen size. Furthermore, with the rest of the specification I have tried to be as realistic as possible given the current implemenations of most of the technologies listed below by many well known and Asian manufacturers (ZTE Nubia X, ZOPO, LG, Huawei, Alcatel One Touch Hero, Vivo and many others) Enjoy the reading and have fun!
6.95” Inches Thin Bezel True Capacitive Touchscreen, 16M Colors Triluminos Display with 2K 2560x1440 Resolution, X-Reality and E-Ink Mode for Battery Efficient E-Book Reading
Integrated Wacom or N-trig Active Digitizer Stylus
Qualcomm® Snapdragon™805/810 with 2.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor with Krait 400
Integrated Glasses Free 3D Content Viewing
3GB RAM
32GB/64GB/128GB Internal Memory Options
Dual SIM+Dual Standby 2G/3G/CDMA/LTE/LTE-A/TD/FD-LTE All Versions Worldwide 2-in-1 microSIM Tray
MicroSD Slot with up to 128GB Expandable Capacity
Dual Dolby Surround Sound Stereo Speakers and 3.5mm Jack
Quad Microphone with Noise Cancellation and HD Sound
Primary: 20.7Mp 4K, OIS, Auto Focus, Dual LED Camera with Simultaneous HD Video and Image Recording, Geo-Tagging, Touch Focus, Face and Smile Detection, Image Stabilization, Panorama, HDR
Secondary: 13Mp, 1080p, Auto Focus Front Facing Camera
Integrated Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Dual-Band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi Hotspot
Integrated GPS with A-GPS/GLONASS Support
Accelerometer, Gyro, Proximity, Compass
Bluetooth 4.0 with NFC, A2DP and LE
Infrared IR Port
Stereo FM and DAB Radio with RDS
Mini HDMI with MHL Integration
MicroUSB 3.0 with USB On-the-go, USB Host and Magnetic Charging
Wireless Charging
Removable Li-Ion 4250mAh/5000mAh Battery
Dust and Water Resistant Metal Construction
- Fingerprint sensor (PayPal certified)
- IP58 certified - dust and water resistant
- Water resistant up to 1 meter and 30 minutes
Android 4.4.3/4.5 with Dedicated SONY Pro Xperia Launcher and UI Optimisations and Hybrid Tablet UI Option.
179.5 x 92.2 x 7.9 mm
215-225 g
3 Yrs Dedicated Worldwide Warranty with Express Care Service
Colours Options; Pure Black, Pure White and Carbon Black and Carbon White with Full Body Colour
on the Front Bezels as well as the Back.
OPTIONAL ACCESSORIES:
SONY Bluetooth 4.0 Detachable Full QWERTY 5 Row Keyboard with Case
SONY Bluetooth 4.0 NFC Speaker Dock
SONY Wireless Charging and microUSB 3.0 Sync Plate
SONY Xenon Quad LED Video Light with 3.5mm Connection
SONY Rechargeable Battery Case 10000 mAh for Extended 4K Pro Use
SONY SmartWatch 3 with Dedicated XZU Apps
SONY Duo Dual Micro/USB Flash Drive for External Backup
SONY XZU Handheld Expanding Tripod Accessory
SONY External 720p/1080p Mini Projector Dock
Ask that waterproof with removable battery? I didn't think so.
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Ask that waterproof with removable battery? I didn't think so.
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Think about the Samsung Galaxy S5 which has some form of water and dust resistancy. I am happy with this level of protection for the sake of having a removable rear cover.
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Think about the Samsung Galaxy S5 which has some form of water and dust resistancy. I am happy with this level of protection for the sake of having a removable rear cover.
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The ZU has a removable back, just a little heat and a guitar pick will do it
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The ZU has a removable back, just a little heat and a guitar pick will do it
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True but it wouldn't be too much to ask Sony or another brand to give us a user removable/replacable back cover. If Samsung and others can why can't Sony?
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True but it wouldn't be too much to ask Sony or another brand to give us a user removable/replacable back cover. If Samsung and others can why can't Sony?
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One thing with the xperia range is that a friend of mine left her's on the roof of her car car over the weekend, came off at ~80km. Battery stayed intact and she could find it with GPS. Try that with a removable battery.
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6.95” Inches Thin Bezel True Capacitive Touchscreen, 16M Colors Triluminos Display with 2K 2560x1440 Resolution, X-Reality and E-Ink Mode for Battery Efficient E-Book Reading
I would like the size to remind the same so if they can increase screensize without making it much bigger then cool. Wont mind it either way really.
As far as I am concerned, I wont mind it to still be 1080p. Too many people playing the numbers game
Integrated Wacom or N-trig Active Digitizer Stylus
That would be cool!
Qualcomm® Snapdragon™805/810 with 2.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor with Krait 400
Better be 810 by the time if comes out but more important that the new CPU speed...can we get a damn processor that runs cool enough where it does not slow down. Whats the point of super fast processor that can only run that speed for a few minutes before having to slow down due to thermal issues?
Integrated Glasses Free 3D Content Viewing
I love 3D!
3GB RAM
agree
32GB/64GB/128GB Internal Memory Options
Agree
MicroSD Slot with up to 128GB Expandable Capacity
For sure...no google style nonsense here without MicroSD slots
Dual Dolby Surround Sound Stereo Speakers and 3.5mm Jack
could be cool but the sounds is going to be lame anyway..its physics lol
Primary: 20.7Mp 4K, OIS, Auto Focus, Dual LED Camera with Simultaneous HD Video and Image Recording, Geo-Tagging, Touch Focus, Face and Smile Detection, Image Stabilization, Panorama, HDR
As a photographer, what I want to see is at most a 12MP camera , wouldnt mind if it was 8MP in order to get better low light quality. I dont care for this silly MP race in such tiny sensors. When I want and need a big quality image, I use my camera.
Integrated Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Dual-Band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi Hotspot
Integrated GPS with A-GPS/GLONASS Support
Accelerometer, Gyro, Proximity, Compass
Bluetooth 4.0 with NFC, A2DP and LE
Infrared IR Port
Stereo FM and DAB Radio with RDS
Mini HDMI with MHL Integration
MicroUSB 3.0 with USB On-the-go, USB Host and Magnetic Charging
Wireless Charging
Removable Li-Ion 4250mAh/5000mAh Battery
I am willing to sacrifice thickness for a removable battery!
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I added my comments to some of the things I would change from your specs.
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True but it wouldn't be too much to ask Sony or another brand to give us a user removable/replacable back cover. If Samsung and others can why can't Sony?
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Because Samsung settles with subpar build quality. Sony does - or tries, not to.
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If it has a removable back and battery it could only be water resistant, not waterproof. Unless they come up with some new tech that makes the back cover seal each time, which I doubt would happen anytime soon on a smartphone.
This phone doesn't need to be any bigger than it already is. I have huge hands and it still stretches me a bit and I have to use both hands sometimes. I will definitely not be getting the new one if the size increases. Also it's too thin. Yes it is sexy, yes it is sleep and it might be the thinnest or whatever, but that inevitably causes it's downfall which is why so many were/are cracking from being in the pockets. If it's going to be so thin, it needs to be more rigid, or just make it flex!
Not So Finally.....BEZELS!!! OMG!!! I understand why they are so huge at the top and bottom, but damn they could have at least made them off the screen, just like the ION. Damn I miss that phone for that feature. Next ZU should have OFF SCREEN navigation buttons like the ION did.
I don't personally use Flash, but at least put a better/Great camera on the thing!!!
16GBs is way too small!!! It's 2014, WTF SONY?!!! From Last year onward, NO HIGHEND SMARTPHONE SHOULD HAVE ANY LESS THAN 32GB of freakin' STORAGE MEMORY!!!! MY DAMN FLASHDRIVE HAS MORE THAN MY FREAKING PHONE!!! It classified as an Entertainment Device is it not?! At least that's what the lady in the promo video and photos was using it for!!! Can't watch all them movies with 16GBs! And yes I know that's what an SDCard is for. That's why I own one. But it would be nice to have more device storage!
Cases!!! It needs cases!!!
A waterproof devices with removable battery is possible. But it won't be as thin nor as solid.
I'm afraid 7" is a bit to big for me. Used to owned 2 7" phone enable tablet. But it's too wide for the pockets.
I also owned the T2 ultra as well, it's an impressive device which fix most of ZU problem but add in a few mid ranger problem as well.
I would be happy if the Z2U has a bigger screen but at the same width, a flash, better camera, 2 front facing stereo speakers and a 64bit processor.
Not sure if I want a 2k screen. The T2 can lass at least 10 hours of screen on time at the same battery capacity as the ZU. I also happens to own the vaio pro 11 during the fire sales. Do hope sony bring carbon fibre to the xperia lines.
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Dual sim, 64gb & 128gb internal memory, Dolby, Quad microphone, 13mp Secondary camera, Removable battery all are too much to expect, and I doubt would happen in the next ultra device.
6.2 inch with QHD, IPS kind of Z2 (lower power i suppose), 3400mAh battery, snapdragon 805, 3GB of RAM, thicker profile max at 7mm, no shatter proof sheet, dual stereo speaker like Z2, and 13mp with 2x clear zoom (or 5mp downsampled quality) Then I'm sold. Big bezel down and top, that's ok, as long as there are speakers below.
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Has to have a very good front facing camera for them selfies.
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Must be 6 mm thick.
Hi-fi sound.
2 speakers or a decent one. Heck the speakers may resemble the looks of 4k bravia tv's speakers, there is room for it.
21 mp first camera, 5 mp front.
Paypal enabled fingerprint sensor.
6.2" qhd screen.
Fast charging.
Must keep the top and bottom bezels or hello to ghost touches.
Make it more fingerprint friendly please.
The outer frame can be metallic but not shiny (apple slate) not black.
Camera shutter button would be great.
Snapdragon 805.
3 gigs of ram.
Noise cancellation earphones out of the box.
More cases.
And a goodbye letter to galaxy note 4 in a romantic way.
Well, some of the desired spec you need, the Chinese manufacturer has already implemented it....it just not Sony that is...
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Well, some of the desired spec you need, the Chinese manufacturer has already implemented it....it just not Sony that is...
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Above specs with Sony build quality from the Chinese? I think I'll pass.
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Above specs with Sony build quality from the Chinese? I think I'll pass.
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Well, i said it because Nubia X-6 has almost the same spec as op desired (not all but some)...like 13mp front and back, 4+++ mah battery, 2 and 3 gb ram, 2 sims, 32,64,128gb memory....same size 6.44 inch...and some...
I like the Chinese to make these kinda phone cause the olden day's they make crappy and clone phone, but now they have step up the game to make their own signature phone and what i like about them is they will put everything inside to max the hardware...all known branded manufacturer will put some of the thing big but keep some mediocre, maybe to make it not to expensive...
What i think if sony do that with their flagships, i think people will switch to sony in a flash...i know i will...
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The Ultra GPe is officially out of stock on the Play Store, so that's probably a goodbye for the GPe version.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...play-editions-out-of-stock-on-the-play-store/
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Here's to hoping for a sony zu 2
Hi There XDA friends!
I have recently got my Xperia 1 here in the Netherlands and am really enjoying the Media benefits of the screen. I was wondering if anyone has tried VR with it?
I come from the S8 and have used Gear VR, but the truth is the SDE was always an issue as a distraction especially for movies and Netflix (Oculus APP).
Can someone maybe try a 3rd party VR lens and let me know the quality in terms of SDE, also would appreciate the suggestion for a good 3rd party gear compatible with the width of the Xperia 1. The 643 ppi of the screen coupled with OLED makes for a killer combination.
Sony should have just made a GearVR-ish setup for this and made it compatible with PS4 remote play, a lost opportunity there SONY!!
Thanks in advance and cheers.
Hello, I am interested as well which headset will fit the 21:9 ratio. I have owned Xperia XZ Premium for 2 years and have enjoyed the 4K (807ppi) which I can tell a difference from high end Samsung counterparts. Xperia 1 is less in PPI but it is OLED screen so I wonder quality-wise what would be the difference. Thanks
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Hello, I am interested as well which headset will fit the 21:9 ratio. I have owned Xperia XZ Premium for 2 years and have enjoyed the 4K (807ppi) which I can tell a difference from high end Samsung counterparts. Xperia 1 is less in PPI but it is OLED screen so I wonder quality-wise what would be the difference. Thanks
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Hello, I own both Xperia XZ Premium and Xperia 1. From hands on experience, I feel Xperia 1 is better than Xperia XZ Premium when I compared both on the same clip.
Additionally, most 360 videos out there are 4K, 5K or 6K which I don't think would utilized full PPI of Xperia 1 nor Xperia XZ Premium. Those 4K, 5K or 6K resolution means total resolution for entire 360 canvas, so when you view it, the FOV is just a portion of it therefore you are not viewing the entire full 5k or 6K resolution. I am not an expert, but I am thinking it may take something like 12K+ video to fully utilize the phone screen quality...
Hello, I used Noon VR headset to try out VR with Xperia 1. Never ever tried VR before so no comparaison here. But SDE is not disturbing, you see it if you focus on it, I tried to get the photo as it appears, but it's slightly more visible in real life.
But then the main issue is that like 95% of the store app, VR app are not natively in 4k, so a 12K video will get downscaled into a FHD or 2K image by the APP, then upscaled to the 4k screen by the phone. So SDE is good, but quality not so much. But then again, just tried some game and video with the NOON VR app, now I'm waiting for the valve index xD
Also wanted to point out that OLED is not that good for VR since it use a pentile subpixel arrangement, that is less sharp than a true RGB arrangement you will find on LCD panels. That's the reason why Valve went with LCD rather than OLED.
That's also the reason why the 4k screen make sense on the phone, it reduce the blur effect induced by the amoled pentile panels.