Kidigi MHL HDMI cradle - HTC EVO 3D

Well.. I just received my Kidigi MHL cradle with excitement
Two things... it pees me off I cannot use the cradle WITH a case on, like the other Kidigi cradles (ARG!!!! - The pic showed a phone with a case on in the cradle!), and then I discover that the AC Adaptor is defective (loud buzzing when there is no current draw.)
I'll try the HDMI in a bit if I can.

OK, what am I doing wrong here... plugged in, HDMI cable plugged in.. but screen not showing up.
Do I need to activate any special application or something?

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OK, what am I doing wrong here... plugged in, HDMI cable plugged in.. but screen not showing up.
Do I need to activate any special application or something?
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My Samsung tv didn't like the evo 3D's HDMI (worked fine with my 4G). I ended up routing the phone to my yamaha amp's hdmi then to my tv. Maybe try another tv or device.

It's got a built-in MHL adapter? So you can plug an HDMI cable right into it?

eXplicit815 said:
It's got a built-in MHL adapter? So you can plug an HDMI cable right into it?
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Yes, apparently so. http://www.kidigi.com/product_lv2.php?pid=1316
Typically doesn't say 'mhl' in kidigi's page though.. but did on ebay.
I have ordered another HDMI cable (v1.4a) just to be sure... but as the ac adaptor is making an audible buzzing, I'm seriously likely to send it back anyway.

I was previously using an HDMI to DVI cable with this, and it didn't work at all. So I ordered a V1.4a HDMI cable instead.
It is most odd, because it seems to work intermittantly. The monitor keeps blacking out for a few seconds, and then working fine for about 20 to 30 seconds.. then blacks out for a few.. then works for 20 to 30 secs....
Not sure what to make of that really. Maybe the auto-rotation is messing it up a bit.. will have a fiddle with the settings.

And now it seems to be working just fine. I had made sure cables were pushed in... maybe the rear wasn't in enough.
Apart from that, I had changed from 'charge only' to 'HTC Sync' (whatever that is), and the phone is now fully charged in the cradle.

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And now it seems to be working just fine. I had made sure cables were pushed in... maybe the rear wasn't in enough.
Apart from that, I had changed from 'charge only' to 'HTC Sync' (whatever that is), and the phone is now fully charged in the cradle.
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How does it look on your TV? What size is your TV? I bought two MHL adapters and NEITHER work on my 61 inch Samsung DLP, but they work on my mom's 19 inch HDTV. However in some areas the picture seems to have a faint checkerboard pattern, especially when scrolling through the gallery. You notice this effect at all?

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How does it look on your TV? What size is your TV? I bought two MHL adapters and NEITHER work on my 61 inch Samsung DLP, but they work on my mom's 19 inch HDTV. However in some areas the picture seems to have a faint checkerboard pattern, especially when scrolling through the gallery. You notice this effect at all?
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I will have another look tonight. I'm viewing it on my 26" monitor. Image looks a little grainy I remember, but that's due to it being on about 720p rather than 1080p I believe.
The auto-rotation is a bit screwed up when it comes to 'dock mode' though. You enter docked mode, it displays in portrait, but then when the weather gets displayed it only shows the weather animation and goes into portrait mode (even though the phone is still in landscape), so pushes things off screen. I have no idea why it does this.
My O2X HDMI output is flawless. TBH considering the amount of *****ing the O2X got (even by owners), it's a phone that works very very well.
If I can get the 'issues' sorted out I'll look to get an android bluetooth keyboard and mouse

I have the same dock and the problem is it only charges with 500mA. I made a Tasker profile for a Desk Clock and when the screen is on, the net current is like +2~20 mA (practically zero) So I did the charger mod (soldering together the data pins) on the AC adapter and now the AC adapter itself can charge the phone with 1000mA but the dock itself presents itself as USB and falls back to 500mA. I will either try hacking the data pins on the dock or patch the kernel to allow for fast charging. I have to look into it more though, MHL portion might stop working with data pins crossed.

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I have the same dock and the problem is it only charges with 500mA. I made a Tasker profile for a Desk Clock and when the screen is on, the net current is like +2~20 mA (practically zero) So I did the charger mod (soldering together the data pins) on the AC adapter and now the AC adapter itself can charge the phone with 1000mA but the dock itself presents itself as USB and falls back to 500mA. I will either try hacking the data pins on the dock or patch the kernel to allow for fast charging. I have to look into it more though, MHL portion might stop working with data pins crossed.
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For a dock that I might have the phone in for a while, i would prefer it slow charging anyway. Means device should be cooler.

I do not have a cradle but my MHL adapter does suck battery and a dirty hack to maintain battery would be great.

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[Q] Micro USB to HDMI

Does anybody have any info on when this cable will be available? I was also wondering if anyone knows if I can play the 3D Movie from my phone on my 3D T.V. with this cable.
I don't have a 3D tv, so I can't test the 3D aspect of the cable, but I have tested the HDMI mirroring.
I ordered the MHL adaptor from T-Mobile's website. Look under the "data" accessories for the Sensation.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Addons/Accessories/Default.aspx
It was $19 plus shipping. I tried a few local T-Mo stores, but nobody had it.
Anyway, I tested it last night. You need to have a charger, a normal HDMI cable, and the adaptor. The adaptor plugs into your phone's USB port, and then you need to plug the adaptor into your phone's charger and into the HDMI cable running to the TV.
You'll get full HDMI mirroring, meaning whatever is on your phone's display is on the TV. I only tested for a few minutes, but when I first attached it, there was a portrait view of my phone's screen up on the TV. I then tested both Netflix and HBO Go, which both flipped the image to landscape, filling the TV screen. Quality was pretty good with Netflix, and only adequate with HBO Go.
Hope that helps!
Rob
Anyone tested a non-MHL micro-USB to HDMI? I don't need charging, just want to display to a non-3D set.
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Anyone tested a non-MHL micro-USB to HDMI? I don't need charging, just want to display to a non-3D set.
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No such thing. Must be plugged in to charge in order for the HDMI out to work.
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Anyone tested a non-MHL micro-USB to HDMI? I don't need charging, just want to display to a non-3D set.
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Show me a non-MHL micro-USB to HDMI adapter/cable.
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What a crappy setup. I MUCH prefer the Evo 4G way. With this I have to carry my charger, the USB cord for the charger, a full size HDMI cable, and this adapter? LAME.
You know there's a search button right? There are about 20 threads loaded with MHL information.

MHL Adapter Question

When using the MHL adapter, is the whole screen mirrored or is it just some apps like gallery/youtube?
Also, does Cyanogenmod (AOSP) work with it?
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When using the MHL adapter, is the whole screen mirrored or is it just some apps like gallery/youtube?
Also, does Cyanogenmod (AOSP) work with it?
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It is full mirroring of the whole screen great huh? I found that out here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXotbjcB6xA
And as far as I know Cyanogenmod does not have it yet but i'm really sure it will soon.
Yup, it does full mirroring, so you can play games as well
The bad part is that i got the ikross mhl adapter and it seems to be defective or smth, cause it keeps disconnecting for no apparent reason (even if i don't touch it).
My question is which mhl adapter is worth buying? I'd really like one i could use while moving the phone. Should i just go with the original one from htc? but that's a bit expensive. Any suggestions?
I have the T-Mobile brand and have no issues with it. It's been carried around in my laptop bag for a while, still works perfect. $20 from the store and around $27 shipped if you order from their site
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Which adapter charges as well?
All of them should, that's their design. Mhl plugs in to the phone, charger and hdmi plug in to the mhl. I know that atleast the T-Mobile version does, all should though. It mirrors everything, and charges my phone just fine at the same time.
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Got my MHL for $15.73 shipped from Monoprice. Been using it everyday since the day I got it to stream netflix and other TV/movie sites from my 3D or off one of the flyers in my house. It's probably been in use for 60+ days straight for about 5-6 hours each day, maybe more... I don't have cable or satellite I'm actually thinking of ordering another one maybe two just in case this one breaks or gets lost.
The monoprice adapter works very well. I've had no connection problems - and I get a great picture depending on the app. Diceplayer works particularly well for putting out HD video.
The only possible drawback is that the monoprice adapter limits you to USB charging, not AC charging - when you use it. So if you're streaming while outputting to the TV, you'll still lose a small amount of phone battery.
On another thread specifically on the MHL adapter charging topic - no one confirmed whether the other chargers were registering AC charging or not. That might be the one advantage in getting another brand.
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The monoprice adapter works very well. I've had no connection problems - and I get a great picture depending on the app. Diceplayer works particularly well for putting out HD video.
The only possible drawback is that the monoprice adapter limits you to USB charging, not AC charging - when you use it. So if you're streaming while outputting to the TV, you'll still lose a small amount of phone battery.
On another thread specifically on the MHL adapter charging topic - no one confirmed whether the other chargers were registering AC charging or not. That might be the one advantage in getting another brand.
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I will test my T-Mobile MHL adaptor tonight to verify that it is ac charging. I do know that I gain battery life when streaming though, so I assume it is
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I will test my T-Mobile MHL adaptor tonight to verify that it is ac charging. I do know that I gain battery life when streaming though, so I assume it is
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Thanks - please do. People in the other thread assumed their phone was charging whether streaming or not - but couldn't confirm with testing values. I thought my phone was charging as well - until I installed a battery monitor and checked. After using many - Battery Monitor Widget appears to work the best on our phone.
If you could test your MHL adapter while streaming, and report back the charging rate reported - that would be a great help. Please report what radios you have on, I usually leave all of them on for testing purposes.
I'm very interested to see if any of these MHL adapters will charge while streaming, as well. I plan on this being my next accessory for the 3D but I don't want to get one that charges with half power.
Forgot to test out the other night. I'll try an get to it tonight before going to bed. Oh, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro. Saw some one mentioning that app earlier, so you'll be able to relate fully. For radios, Wifi and Mobile Network are never turned off on my phone. That's how I'll be testing as I never have Bluetooth on when steaming movies, and only have GPS on when I'm using Navigation or an app that needs GPS. Obviously won't need GPS to stream a movie in my house...
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got Monoprice MHL to charge last night while streaming
Took quite a bit of tinkering, but finally got positive charging (albeit not much) while streaming Battle of Midway from Netflix and the Wire from HBO GO last night. Using WTSB 1.9 rom and Monoprice MHL adapter.
What I had to do was:
-Airplane Mode;
-Turn on Wifi;
-Turn off account sync;
-Taskmanager to kill off everything but netflix;
-Use SetCPU to underclock to (648ishMHZ for netflix) or (900ishMHZ for HBO GO);
-Covedesign app to turn off button backlights;
-Covedesign app to go to backlight "blink" and disabled blink (like jumping rope) just at the right time for the backlight to stay off (may have to do this several times)(though this makes it damn hard to interact with phone unless you have bt mouse or keyboard - if not, may just want to turn brightness down as far as you can get);
My setup:
Evo3d streaming via wifi from iSpot 4G Clear device, outputting via MHL to optoma pk201 pico projector, with stock charger+usb, and audio via MHL/HDMI to pico projector.
Comment:
Netflix ROCKS (wonder why no stock landscape UI though)!!! Great streaming, no hiccups; HBO GO, on the other hand, (while AMAZING selection) constantly drops out to "Audio only stream, connect to stronger network or wifi for video", stutters, ... all kinds of crap and this is on a pretty regular 6mbps 4G Clear iSpot!
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BTW, anyone know of an app that lets you monitor your total mA usage live?
like a graphing app or anything?
There used to be a great one for WM6 that showed, for example 400milliamps with screen on, and 200milliamps with screen off and graphed it over time.
I keep getting pissed off with these phones; can anyone help me (I've been searching for years and can't find answers) mind you, I'm coming from the x51v wm6.5.3; PalmTX; Sammy Omnia...
-Why can't we turn off the backlight to the screen?
-Why can't we MANUALLY rotate to landscape or portrait? (I know you can manually engage or disengage the AUTOmatic rotation feature)
-(maybe this does exist) Why can't we get readings on how many mA we are using?
It just seems like the x51v from 2002 was so much more advanced and customizable, seems like we are re-creating the wheel over and over again.
Sorry for the rant.
Battery Monitor Widget, as mentioned in the post previous to yours...
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Thanks - please do. People in the other thread assumed their phone was charging whether streaming or not - but couldn't confirm with testing values. I thought my phone was charging as well - until I installed a battery monitor and checked. After using many - Battery Monitor Widget appears to work the best on our phone.
If you could test your MHL adapter while streaming, and report back the charging rate reported - that would be a great help. Please report what radios you have on, I usually leave all of them on for testing purposes.
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My MHL adapter mirrors everything and charges directly from the wall.
LiquidSolstice said:
My MHL adapter mirrors everything and charges directly from the wall.
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Ummm... Thanks? You provided exactly zero new information.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Ummm... Thanks? You provided exactly zero new information.
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Except...I did. For this person:
bagelicious said:
I'm very interested to see if any of these MHL adapters will charge while streaming, as well. I plan on this being my next accessory for the 3D but I don't want to get one that charges with half power.
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MHL Adapters are required to charge while being used, in fact, they only function if the charger is plugged in. That's part the spec, and I'd like to think I know quite a bit about MHL since I've done work and testing on the product for the company that created it, which is Silicon Image : http://www.siliconimage.com/products/family.aspx?id=10 . As for the quoted person, the adapter is not supposed to the the problem (unless you're getting a cheap knockoff one) but the power output of your charger can be an issue as well. The original Evo 3D charger outputs the proper power for the adapter to charge your phone properly. If you're using a cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord, it will most likely not charge at the same output.
I've been using and testing these adapters before you ever knew about them. Is that enough information for you?
Went to a friends after work an just got home a little while ago. Battery is at 15% so instead of putting in a freshly charged battery, I'm going to test my T-Mobile MHL Adaptor for those interested. Hope to post results tonight, definitely going to test tonight though even if results aren't posted until the morning.
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@LiquidSolstice What the heck's a "cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord"? Did you mean microUSB? So much for your expertise... Dunno what you're going on about, but the MHL adapters could very well affect the current fed to the phone since it's literally going THRU them. Have you tested every single MHL adapter? Even if there's a spec they should conform to, it doesn't mean they all do, just like all chargers out there are not 1A chargers with properly shorted pins to deliver 1A.
The concerns you quoted and dismissed were valid, no need for that attitude. The USB cable used shouldn't really matter in the vast majority of cases, resistances introduced by even the thinnest retractable cables are pretty much negligible... I've actually tested that too. It really comes down to the charger, and possibly the MHL adapter that's in between. If mike hasn't posted his results with the T-Mo adapter tomorrow I'll test mine as I have the same one. Can't speak for the MP adapter as I don't have it, MP usually sells quality cables & adapters tho.
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@LiquidSolstice What the heck's a "cheap generic brand eBay MicroSD power cord"? Did you mean microUSB? So much for your expertise... Dunno what you're going on about, but the MHL adapters could very well affect the current fed to the phone since it's literally going THRU them. Have you tested every single MHL adapter? Even if there's a spec they should conform to, it doesn't mean they all do, just like all chargers out there are not 1A chargers with properly shorted pins to deliver 1A.
The concerns you quoted were valid, no need for that attitude. If mike hasn't posted his results with the T-Mo adapter tomorrow I'll test mine as I have the same one. Can't speak for the MP adapter as I don't have it, MP usually sells quality cables & adapters tho.
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So much for my expertise? Tell you what. Remove the MHL adapter out of the question. Try to charge the phone using a Samsung Moment power cord. It's all MicroUSB as you say.
It won't properly charge. Just because a power cord has a plug on one end a MicroUSB on another doesn't mean they're all equal. The point that I'm responding to is that unless you're buying a knockoff MHL adapter (or a really, really cheap one) the spec specifies that they all charge from both USB and AC, and that there is enough power to properly charge the device.

MHL>HDMI setup works awesome

It tools some doing, but I finally got this working perfectly and figured it might help someone out.
I have a 7" DVD/NAV screen built into the dash of my truck. I have always been able to display my Slingbox, Netflix, ripped DVD movies etc from my phone to that screen using HDMI out from the phone to an HDMI SCALER as my truck stereo doesn't have HDMI in and this gives composite connections.
This worked great with my DroidX and Droid Charge, but my new Rezound does not have dedicated HDMI OUT (boo) so I needed an MHL>HDMI ADAPTOR.
the first adaptor I got from htcpedia (htc M490) was defective. When I plugged it into the phone (and the USB power cord) it showed the HD out in the task bar, but nothing showed on the screen and in 30 seconds the adaptor quit completely.
At that point, I ordered the HTC AC M500 12 pin adaptor and that works super. It has both HDMI out and analog audio. I plug the HDMI cord into the scaler for video and a headphone cord hooked into the aux in on my killer truck stereo for sound. The sound is better that way than coming through HDMI.
This setup works AMAZING. I can run anything except the NFL APP to the 7" screen with killer sound.
Don't knock the new port too much, the functionality is awesome.
Here is a link to what all it can do.
I'm not knocking it at all, at first I was because it seemed no matter what I tried I couldn't get it to work.
I had a brand new AC M490 MHL adaptor (the one other posters where recommending), with a brand new very high quality HDMI cable and could not get it to work at all which was extremely frustrating. This was annoying especially in light of the fact that my previous three phones worked perfectly in this setup (although the DroidX did not do HDMI mirroring which was really annoying at times)
Now, with the AC M500 MHL adaptor (which seems more compatible in every way) it works better than any previous setup I had and does it all with just one-plug at the phone end.
The 500 uses the exact same plugs for both the phone and the USB power cable as the original Rezound AC charging cable instead of the looser fitting mini USB like the DroidX. Either will work I guess, but one is a loose sloppy fit and the other is a nice snug fit like the OM charging cable.
The 500 also has both an HDMI out and an analog audio out as opposed to the 490 which only gives you the HDMI. I have found this to be an advantage soundwise. I noticed this with both my DroidX and later with my Droid Charge.
I noticed that running both the video and sound through the HDMI cable from the phone produces a noticeably weaker sound than running just the video through HDMI and then the audio out from the headphone jack (or the analog audio out on the adaptor in this case) This gives a much fuller sound with more bass etc. For some reason (I'm not sure why really)
This worked in all my previous setups and continues to hold true with the Rezound.
~John
This worked for me with all my
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Adaptor-Jetstream-Tablets-Package/dp/B005LSOPN4
This is the adaptor I am using
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http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Adaptor-Jetstream-Tablets-Package/dp/B005LSOPN4
This is the adaptor I am using
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Interesting, actually cheaper on Amazon than on ebay!
HTC MHL AC M500 12 pin adapter
I recently got interested in this and bought one from Rakuten, but the audio doesn't work. I tried headset, earbuds, powered speakers. Is the audio port just a 3.5" plug? Maybe I got a bad one. Video works OK though.
I'm also curious that mine says, "9VDC 1.6A" on the back, but our phone chargers are 5V. Sure wouldn't want to burn up my phone. Anybody else's say 9V on the back of it? It doesn't say input or output or max input or anything, just that voltage designation.

HDMI out without Power Possible?

Hey guys,
Just wondering if there is a way to get the hdmi mirroring to work without the power cable plugged in.
A little about my phone: hboot 1.4, rooted. Im using Deck's sense ROM (i know it's old, but it is really stable) and using Ziggy kernel. Overclocked to 1.8ghz.
Yes and no. A tv supporting mhl will power your phone and just requires the mhl cable which is usb to hdmi. However, the mhl adapter, which is different than the mhl cable, does require power. What the difference is is the adapter is converting the signal so the tv sees it as hdmi. Because the adapter is doing the work, it needs a power source. Very few tvs support mhl natively. I think it just came out this year in consumer tvs. And when you do get a tv supporting mhl natively, you may have to ditch the adapter and use the normal mhl cable, but I'm not for sure. I'm sure you could still use the adapter, but it would probably still require power.
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what he said
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what he said
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gk1984 said:
Yes and no. A tv supporting mhl will power your phone and just requires the mhl cable which is usb to hdmi. However, the mhl adapter, which is different than the mhl cable, does require power. What the difference is is the adapter is converting the signal so the tv sees it as hdmi. Because the adapter is doing the work, it needs a power source. Very few tvs support mhl natively. I think it just came out this year in consumer tvs. And when you do get a tv supporting mhl natively, you may have to ditch the adapter and use the normal mhl cable, but I'm not for sure. I'm sure you could still use the adapter, but it would probably still require power.
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wow, thank you so much! That cleared up a lot.
I'm running into this problem, I had the 3D hooked up to the TV via mhl adapter, and the power plugged in. I was streaming netflix (wifi) to the TV. After 2 hours, my battery went from 98% to 23%.... Any idea as to what gives? When it comes to mirroring, OG Evo was far superior.
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wow, thank you so much! That cleared up a lot.
I'm running into this problem, I had the 3D hooked up to the TV via mhl adapter, and the power plugged in. I was streaming netflix (wifi) to the TV. After 2 hours, my battery went from 98% to 23%.... Any idea as to what gives? When it comes to mirroring, OG Evo was far superior.
Thanks
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I think the power drain is from powering the mhl adapter. I'm not 100% sure of the amount but I think it's 5 volts you get through usb. Figure that's what the phone uses to charge. But now the adapter needs that power for the signal now too. So now you're splitting that 5 volts between the 2 devices. This wouldn't be such a big deal if the screen could be turned off the phone but that kills the mirroring. Because the screen is on, you're drawing mode power.
Another example of charging while using the phone. If I drive using Gps, Pandora, and leave the screen on, I may gain 1% battery increase in 30 minutes driving vs maybe 10% if the phone were just sitting there asleep. Both using Gps and mhl adapter involves the phone actually working, thus using power. The difference is the mhl adapter needs power too so a portion of the charge isn't going to the phone to begin with.
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Picoprojector
Hello,
To use a pocket picroprojectors like the Microvision ShowWX+ HDMI on my galaxy note or S2 I need to power the converter. it's very bad iPhone can do video out without external power.
I guess the ship used inside this converter is the SiI9292 MHL-to-HDMI Bridge. I need to power it without power the phone (cut MHL VCC line on PCB ?)
The adapter is not expensive I want to check this... For me the power requirements of the cable is low, But if the phone require power to enable video out my hack is not possible
English is not my native language, so I'm sorry for mistakes.
Pascal
serveurperso said:
Hello,
To use a pocket picroprojectors like the Microvision ShowWX+ HDMI on my galaxy note or S2 I need to power the converter. it's very bad iPhone can do video out without external power.
I guess the ship used inside this converter is the SiI9292 MHL-to-HDMI Bridge. I need to power it without power the phone (cut MHL VCC line on PCB ?)
The adapter is not expensive I want to check this... For me the power requirements of the cable is low, But if the phone require power to enable video out my hack is not possible
English is not my native language, so I'm sorry for mistakes.
Pascal
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Is there a question here?
And was there really a need to bump a 3 month old thread? And this is the Evo 3d section, not the Galaxy Note section.
HDMI out without Power IS Possible.
This is not a question this is search for solution, didn't notice the date (noob sorry). This thread is #1 referenced on google for :
mhl without power
hdmi without power
This is a generic MHL question, for all MHL phones.
I just realized a DIY tiny self powered MHL to HDMI adapter for my (showwx+ laser) picoprojector with PCB from a chinese adapter.
This could give some information to DIYer that want to make a self powered adapter for picoprojector.
The HDMI out work without charging the phone. I just unsoldered the VCC (red) wire from MHL side of adapter.
The hdmi bridge need 60mA on 5V (0,3 watt) and can work @ 3 - 3.3V. I used a very tiny LiPo (1 cell 200mA) to power it. Now it need a tiny charge and discharge controller. It work for >1 hour (deep discharge <3V can killl the small LiPo).
Pascal
Another, cheaper and easier, option is to use a portable battery. Preferrably one with an on-off switch so that it'll keep charging the adapter even when the phone is fully charged. The other variety will shut itself off when the phone itself is full.
I had bought a $10 portable battery from Newegg that I throw in my car for occasional use. When I use it for MHL when on the go - I use a retractable usb cable to connect it to the MHL adapter. The portability is pretty decent, since the battery itself is less than half the size of the phone.

MHL adapter from monoprice!

Hey guys I found this mhl adapter on monoprice and it's $10.20. By far one of the cheapest out there. Also monoprice has great build quality on their products! Here's the product link http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2, and here's their video on it! They use it on our evo 3d's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P5tJl_a_wcc
Yep - that's already been discussed many times under the MHL adapter threads. There have been many reviews about that particular adapter - including mine.
Honestly - I have no complaints about my MHL adapter.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Yep - that's already been discussed many times under the MHL adapter threads. There have been many reviews about that particular adapter - including mine.
Honestly - I have no complaints about my MHL adapter.
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Really!? I've never seen it haha thanks! Do you like it?
I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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Awesome i'll probably order mine from monoprice just cause I've gotten such great products from them.
alainater said:
Hey guys I found this mhl adapter on monoprice and it's $10.20. By far one of the cheapest out there. Also monoprice has great build quality on their products! Here's the product link http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2, and here's their video on it! They use it on our evo 3d's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P5tJl_a_wcc
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I bought it when it went on sale a couple weeks ago for something like 9 bucks shipped. I wouldn't recommend it. The battery drains even when plugged in (which has to be plugged in to work). If you read the reviews monoprice actually responded that it only can input of 500mA which is only half of what the stock charger puts out but standard for USB ports on a PC. Don't know if its an MHL flaw or a monoprice adapter flaw but a 720p movie with the phone in airplane mode still managed to drain the battery in under 2 hours. You also can't manually change resolution although that's a limitation on the phone. This really isn't a problem as it defaults to 720p for most TVs but I did have it go to a really low resolution in a monitor.
Don't blame the monoprice adapter, that's a weakness with all mhl adapters. There was a guy who claimed his was charging, but checking the system settings showed he was limited to USB charging and not AC.
The key is not having other apps running or services you don't need. On an airplane, you should have gotten a much better discharge rate! The last time I used mine at a friends house to watch a 720p MKV, I had over 90% of my battery left. I figured I could have watched over 10 hours of video. If you're streaming, you will burn more battery obviously.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Don't blame the monoprice adapter, that's a weakness with all mhl adapters. There was a guy who claimed his was charging, but checking the system settings showed he was limited to USB charging and not AC.
The key is not having other apps running or services you don't need. On an airplane, you should have gotten a much better discharge rate! The last time I used mine at a friends house to watch a 720p MKV, I had over 90% of my battery left. I figured I could have watched over 10 hours of video. If you're streaming, you will burn more battery obviously.
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That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
nullr1 said:
That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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Yeah, buy you had two connections into your phone with the OG Evo. The MHL adaptor will eventually (when tv's come with it) only need the HDMI cable and hopefully charge more than the USB does.
tgruendler said:
Yeah, buy you had two connections into your phone with the OG Evo. The MHL adaptor will eventually (when tv's come with it) only need the HDMI cable and hopefully charge more than the USB does.
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Didn't think they would.wrap it into a TV but if 500mA is an MHL limitation then it really wouldn't make a difference since the stock charger already outputs more than that and what the adaptot itself consumes.
Nice find! I was looking on Amazon for an MHL adapter, but glad I checked here before purchasing one.
nullr1 said:
That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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Can you point me to any 1 AMP advertised MHL adapters?
Even if they work for other phones, this phone's funny. I have quite a few 2.1A chargers, both car and AC - and not all of them charge beyond USB charging rate. It seems one or two of the micro usb pins need to be shorted to charge our phone at a rate higher than 0.5A.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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I just got this EBAY adapter - and I haven't had a chance to fully test it. It wouldn't work for HDMI out - so I thought it was defective, but I realized I haven't used MHL since I rooted my phone (olympus rom). I used my monoprice adapter and also wasn't able to get it to work, though it ran very well when the phone was stock. So I'll wait to review until I flash a new rom that actally lets me use the MHL adapter properly.
One thing that shows promise is that when I charge through the EBAY $6 MHL adapter, it shows up as AC charging on my phone. The monoprice shows up as USB charging. I've also confirmed that it definitely charges faster.
I'll still have to test whether or not it actually works - and if it'll actually charge faster IN USE. I'll let you guys know. If it does work and charge faster than the mono price adapter, I'll post here and start a new thread. Otherwise, I'll report back and apologize.
I updated to a kernel which allowed HDMI out and tested the new HDMI adapter. Visually, back to back with the monoprice adapter - the EBAY $6 adapter worked just as good. That is to say that the picture looked idetically sharp.
I then played a 42 minute 720P MKV through diceplayer - and my phone's charge increased from 66% to 70%. It's the first time I've seen that with an MHL adapter.
With this new kernel (Anthrax R13) - this MHL adapter now shows charging my phone as being via USB instead of AC. But next, I plan to play an identical video with the monoprice adapter - to see if my charge level increases or drains in use.
I'll start a new thread when I have the results, but regardless, at $6 - this EBAY cheapie has to be the best value yet.
Are there any other kernel/rom options that would support hdmi out to tv? Thanks
One thing you might want to consider if using this with the HTC dock, is that the Monoprice adapter won't fit well. You have to force the micro usb in. To use it in the dock, you need a micro usb adapter that has the micro end with a less bulky plastic enclosure. The curved side of the tip needs to be closer to the plastic edge. The adapter I got from eBay fits better, without forcing or bending. You could also try carving away excess material.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
I'll start a new thread when I have the results, but regardless, at $6 - this EBAY cheapie has to be the best value yet.
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I've got a 10£ ebay special and lovin it no probs.
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