Just received a new Prime today, serial is C3, I have not had time to do any extensive testing but I am pissed off to find dead pixels and white pixels so I guess ill be returning the unit until I get one with no damn spot on it, the lightbleeding the GPS doesnt bother me but dammit the dots are irritating!
I do not know if anyone else has a C3 model yet so before I return it in a few days please feel free to ask me any questions to compare it with the other models.
I had a C1 before.
Cheers!
How's the wifi?
David522d said:
How's the wifi?
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Well in never had any real problems with it with my last unit but its fine right now no dropping or whatever.
Am gonna try go outside and see how far the signal can go and the strength and so on.
+1 on wifi check.
Depending on what type of internet connection you have but still, does it sseem to be better than your previous Prime ?
can you check wifi with streaming bluetooth?
I did not know there were different models. I got mine few days ago and it's C3.
I see that most people complain about wifi - it works fine for me, it has better range than my Galaxy S.
It has newest firmware in - dated 20-Feb I think. It rebooted itself twice for no reason, but apart from that everything works smoothly.
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I'm on my 3rd first had dead pixels and white spot (LCD mura) and 2nd had mura too. This or is fiber. All C2 serial..
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That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
Techie2012 said:
That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
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Now now.. Change that to "some of the primes"!
Techie2012 said:
That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
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I'm happy with my prime purely for the fact that i got sick and tired of waiting for a decently powered android tablet, and the prime fits the bill in practically all areas apart from the for mentioned problems already discussed i.e. gps, wifi, wifi + bluetooth etc etc.........
usb to ethernet
-This was always a preference for me as i don't like leaving on my wifi for extended periods of time, just gotta wait till someone figures out how to hook the adapter to the tablet directly.
Saying that i like the fact that when i need wifi, i can log onto my router using the prime and turn it on and then remove the tablet from the dock, then, when im finished with the wifi, i turn it off, dock the tablet, and let it connect over ethernet automatically.....very nice
GPS
Waiting for someone to figure out how to allow apps to use my phones gps over bluetooth
or better still, gps over usb, to preserve battery
Saying that, i feel the same disgust as you my friend, were not apple fanbois fellas, stop acting like em.......if there are issues with the prime, ignoring them wont fix em, and what message will that send to asus..........."its alright guys, your next product is allowed to have defects"..............i don't thinks so
I got my C3 a couple of days ago. Other than the GPS that I knew was not going to work very well inside, if at all, its been working fine. It does work good outside though. Wifi is as good as any other devices I have on my network and range is the same as other devices. I haven't however tested it while using Bluetooth at the same time since I don't really use it that way.
As far as the screen I have no dead pixels and only the slightest light bleed at the top just below the camera. I didn't even notice it until I used the app for checking the screen for dead pixels. It is so small that I not sure I want to return it for another because like I said I don't even see under normal use.
I must say I was a little apprehensive about buying it because of all the threads here with some of the problems some of these have. Add in the fact there were none anywhere near me that I could play with first hand to see if I even would like the little thing it was a big leap of blind faith for me. But it was also the threads with the many happy would buy it again owners that conived me to go ahead buy it and I'm glad I did.
In short I'm happy with it. A buddy and I compared his new iPad(3) with my TP and the first words out of his mouth was WOW that is nice. There was also another iPad2 owner next to me and he was impressed with it too. This was in a place that has always had crappy wifi and I still managed to latch on to it.
I even applied my first hack to it yesterday the black hack for Notifications which really looks nice I think.
fasthair
banderos101 said:
GPS
Waiting for someone to figure out how to allow apps to use my phones gps over bluetooth
or better still, gps over usb, to preserve battery
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Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
This was not meant to be nor is it a 'trash the Prime thread' this was meant to be informative.
This has been working great for me so far... TF201+SGS
m3t4lw01f said:
Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
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How is WiFi+Bluetooth working together, headset, speakers, streaming..?
C3 should have all the updates for hw that solve the isse, I hope.
m3t4lw01f said:
Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
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Already tried that, managed to get it connected and everything, but when i open google maps and click my location, nada............i just assumed that apps werent set up to use an external gps source!!
am i right in thinking that yours does work in google maps?
regardless, thanks for the help
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
banderos101 said:
Already tried that, managed to get it connected and everything, but when i open google maps and click my location, nada............i just assumed that apps werent set up to use an external gps source!!
am i right in thinking that yours does work in google maps?
regardless, thanks for the help
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Mine works fine, yes. Perhaps you need to disable gps on the Prime. Maybe it's getting confused?
I've also used "bluetooth gps mouse" (do a market search, there's a free version to see if it works for you) on the prime and an app called Bluetooth GPS Output on the phone. Maybe just need a different combination of software to get it working?
Oh, also, you need to enable the "Enable Mock GPS Provider" setting in Bluetooth GPS on the Prime. Otherwise it won't work at all.
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mark.m.moran said:
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
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I bought mine from cdon.no, I'm in Norway
mark.m.moran said:
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
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Just to add... I ordered mine online from Staples. Had it the next day with free shipping
fasthair
Related
I just ordered a Bluetooth GPS receiver from Amazon because they are only $5! Original price is $150, so you save 97%.
Bluetooth GPS reciever
Bluetooth-GPS
I figured for $5, it is worth a shot. I should be receiving it by the end of the week, and will post my findings.
mcrcracer said:
I just ordered a Bluetooth GPS receiver from Amazon because they are only $5! Original price is $150, so you save 97%.
Bluetooth GPS reciever
http://www.androidpit.com/en/android.../Bluetooth-GPS
I figured for $5, it is worth a shot. I should be receiving it by the end of the week, and will post my findings.
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Well, you're trading one problem for another, WiFi will vanish with Bluetooth on.
Neither of these links work?
NOT SOLVED.
What's the point of of a thin, sleek tablet when it's got to have a dongle sticking out it.
At most your post is an obvious workaround, but hardly anywhere near ideal, or even acceptable for a lot of people.
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Well, you're trading one problem for another, WiFi will vanish with Bluetooth on.
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If your tethering your tablet via BT to a GPS unit, why would you care if WiFi was off or on? If your even doing this, it is obvious your out traveling and thus, WiFi is of no use so... it is a mute point
Someone Walkin' said:
NOT SOLVED.
What's the point of of a thin, sleek tablet when it's got to have a dongle sticking out it.
At most your post is an obvious workaround, but hardly anywhere near ideal, or even acceptable for a lot of people.
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You obviously don't know what a Bluetooth GPS receiver is. Though I do agree that this is a workaround.
You realize the ones for $5 don't come with the charger, right?
Lock-N-Load said:
If your tethering your tablet via BT to a GPS unit, why would you care if WiFi was off or on? If your even doing this, it is obvious your out traveling and thus, WiFi is of no use so... it is a mute point
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unless you want to tether to a phone or hotspot to use nav
Lock-N-Load said:
If your tethering your tablet via BT to a GPS unit, why would you care if WiFi was off or on? If your even doing this, it is obvious your out traveling and thus, WiFi is of no use so... it is a mute point
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Wifi-tethering with a smartphone?
Lock-N-Load said:
it is a mute point
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It's a MOOT point, for sure.
tdrussell said:
unless you want to tether to a phone or hotspot to use nav
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if you're doing that then why not just use tether gps?
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if you're doing that then why not just use tether gps?
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Probably true, but sometimes, a smartphone's AGPS isn't that much better.
And sometimes, you want to use... the Internet.
Glad I don't really care about GPS on a tablet or even a laptop. Both my cars have navigation systems so I'm good on that
wifi-tethering with a smartphone? I'll just use the phone GPS.
Honestly I can't even think of a situation where I really needed GPS on a larger screen...
(obviously this is just my personal situation)
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Probably true, but sometimes, a smartphone's AGPS isn't that much better.
And sometimes, you want to use... the Internet.
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I'm not saying its ideal. Obviously having a dedicated working gps in the tab is better. I'm just saying if you have a smart phone, instead of buying a bluetooth gps and jumping through hoops and all, might as well just use tether gps and use your phone's.
hairdewx said:
Glad I don't really care about GPS on a tablet or even a laptop. Both my cars have navigation systems so I'm good on that
wifi-tethering with a smartphone? I'll just use the phone GPS.
Honestly I can't even think of a situation where I really needed GPS on a larger screen...
(obviously this is just my personal situation)
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Exactly what I was thinking with all these people complaining about the GPS. I could care less. I don't think I will ever even turn it on.
wynand32 said:
It's a MOOT point, for sure.
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d'ohh busted
kristovaher said:
Well, you're trading one problem for another, WiFi will vanish with Bluetooth on.
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Situation 1: You're home using your wifi and you need Blutooth GPS.
Solution: Dude, if you need to know where you are at home, there is a bigger issue.
Situation 2: You're driving down the road and you need Blutooth GPS.
Solution: Turn it on, there's no Wifi anyways
Situation 3: You're driving down the road, you need GPS, but someone is using the Prime in the passenger seat connected to a wifi hotspot from a phone right next to you.
Solution: First, it probably won't drop in that close proximity. Second, how often is this situation going to happen? For six sigma the population, this will happen less than once.
Situation 4: You're in a coffee shop on wifi and need GPS.
Solution: Disconnect Wifi, do your GPS location, reconnect Wifi.
Alternate Solution: Use the wifi location tracking.
So really, there is no issue here. Unless you have one I'm not thinking of.
pyro6128 said:
I'm not saying its ideal. Obviously having a dedicated working gps in the tab is better. I'm just saying if you have a smart phone, instead of buying a bluetooth gps and jumping through hoops and all, might as well just use tether gps and use your phone's.
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Oh, I agree. If you have a smartphone, might as well use the phone for GPS. Tether-GPS isn't that fast.
I PERSONALLY will never use GPS with my tablet though. There's a reason why GPS devices don't have 10" screen ;P
Just so we are clear, I am by no means in NEED of GPS on my tablet, as I have a droid bionic.
This workaround is for my wife to use while I am driving. We go on a lot of road trips, and she constantly complains about screen size of the droid.
I agree with people in the sense that GPS is not needed on the tablet, and it is not feasible to be driving around by yourself using the tablet for GPS.
I think you will find that tethering a bt GPS might be a pain. Back in the day I managed it with my old dell axim but drivers will be an issue on android.
There can be use for GPS in a tablet with cached or offline maps though. I actually hold on to our htc-hd2 because of the great GPS with offline maps under wm6.x. we use it all the time...but I prefer the pocketabilty of that system for GPS navigation.
I have little use for GPS on a tablet...but I am a little annoyed as I was with my vibrant that GPS is not working as advertised on the prime.
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SO after all the people worrying me I got mine today from Game Stop. Opened it up, rooted it, installed root keeper, upgraded to ICS and upgraded the camera. Wifi works fantastic at my work so far, and GPS locked me on me as soon as I upgraded Google Maps. It wasn't 100% perfect but it was accurate upto 20 meters.
I know this isnt a blog site, I just wanted to give some positive feedback after reading all of these nightmares forever.
Also, I am using wifi and my bluetooth mouse with no problems either.
Now we just need some love from ASUS so we can get some custom ROMs/Kernels
Told ya..lol. Glad to hear its working well for ya.
DroidHam said:
Wifi works fantastic at my work so far, and GPS locked me on me as soon as I upgraded Google Maps. It wasn't 100% perfect but it was accurate upto 20 meters.
Also, I am using wifi and my bluetooth mouse with no problems either.
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I do NOT want to be the one to rain on anybody's parade and insist that someone shouldn't love the product they just bought. Hell, I love my Prime as well, although I'm still debating whether to return the one I have with broken haptic feedback in hopes of finally getting one where at least every major component just functions at all.
That said, we do need to keep the issues clear that actually do exist. So:
1. If you have GPS completely turned off, Google Maps will still locate you to 20 meters via wifi-based location services. In fact, you might find that your GPS actually is turned off by default (I can't remember whether mine was on or off out of the box and following the ICS update). However, locking to 20 meters accuracy when connected to wifi has pretty much nothing to do with working or non-working GPS.
2. If you have another Bluetooth device to try other than a mouse, it would be interesting to see if you can stream more data (say, a BT headphone and streaming audio) and retain full wifi performance at the same time.
Nice to hear, I hope it stays (almost perfect).
Just to worry you some more:
Make sure you are streaming audio to a bluetooth from a video or something online. YOu want to make sure your BlueTooth is actually streaming something, and not simply turned on.
Check the edges of your screen. Make sure your screen is not lifting away from the back. This may or may not be a problem for your, but for my prime and some others, the glass appears to be raised above the Back Panel and can basically be pushed flush against it.
I love my prime, I love it. Except, I cannot update it cause I have no Serial Number. Even with my screen a little raised, and some light bleed on the right hand side, I would keep it if I could update the firmware. But I cannot, and have to take it back.
DroidHam said:
SO after all the people worrying me I got mine today from Game Stop. Opened it up, rooted it, installed root keeper, upgraded to ICS and upgraded the camera. Wifi works fantastic at my work so far, and GPS locked me on me as soon as I upgraded Google Maps. It wasn't 100% perfect but it was accurate upto 20 meters.
I know this isnt a blog site, I just wanted to give some positive feedback after reading all of these nightmares forever.
Also, I am using wifi and my bluetooth mouse with no problems either.
Now we just need some love from ASUS so we can get some custom ROMs/Kernels
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Google maps locks on for me at 20 meters accuracy. Although when I try Google Nav. No such luck. Glad yours is near perfect
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You all are funny..lol
Everything is nice on my Prime. The one thing I noticed on the native video player when playing mkv files. I would get these lines outside the playing video. But if played from a third party player like mx player I have no problems.
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Mine is almost perfect save for a spec of dust under the LCD which causes a small greyish dark shadow on white/bright backgrounds...Problem is best buy where i bought it from is out of stock...and with the unknown serial number problem seemingly becoming more commonplace...i dont want to risk replacing this one that works perfect and has one small imperfection...and getting one thats unrootable and unupgradeable...im thinking i will just keep this one and RMA it later on if need be when the bugs and issues have been worked out down the line after all the tab is covered by a 1 year warranty with Asus.
3rdamention said:
Make sure you are streaming audio to a bluetooth from a video or something online. YOu want to make sure your BlueTooth is actually streaming something, and not simply turned on.
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I am not the OP...but ran this test with 20 minutes of streaming video from YouTube and Netflix without issues. I think some people got a bad bad batch.
mike infinity said:
I am not the OP...but ran this test with 20 minutes of streaming video from YouTube and Netflix without issues. I think some people got a bad bad batch.
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What Bluetooth device were you streaming to; presumably it was audio? While you were streaming to Bluetooth, did you do any SpeedTest runs? Would be interesting to see if you were able to maintain full Internet connectivity over wifi while streaming to Bluetooth...
my replacement ATP should be in today or tomorrow..i hope so.
They have one from a preorder that never picked up and the manager and I both agreed that it would be better not to open up one from the same "batch" but try fresh with this new batch..regardless if the units being released now are the same as before...(i doubt this from a production/shipping standpoint..otherwise if no new units were created...why the massive shortage upon release?)
the last question was more rhetorical.
Glad to see you have yours....I love mine other than what others are facing...screen separation, no GPS(none), WiFi is intermittently crappy...BT issue is intermittent..and something i haven't seen anyone talk about..i have a dead-zone right where the WLAN module seems to be. I've used both the developer screen visualizer and Multitouch Visualizer and have posted the video's confirming it "Skips" at the exact same spot and ONLY that spot.
Being an original transformer owner....I am in love with this one! IMO It is working great right out of the box smooth as butter.... I really don't know whats up with all these post about ICS being buggy,laggy,crashing.....?? This tablet is going to sell because its nice,fast,the screen is amazing and it's beat every other company off the line with cutting edge software & hardware... I'm not saying its perfect but it sure works for me.
I heared Gamespot have some problems with returning policy so im afraid to order one from them... happy to hear you got a good one tho.
but why did you root it? is that a MUST ?
vitalero said:
I heared Gamespot have some problems with returning policy so im afraid to order one from them... happy to hear you got a good one tho.
but why did you root it? is that a MUST ?
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My first Prime I got from GS non tablet store. I was able to return it within the 30 day policy. I just explained about the GPS and random shutdowns and that was that got my money back and now have my replacement from OD. I'm happy and rooted! Can't wait for the unlock bootloader tool.
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My Prime's GPS doesn't work at all...with or without wifi.
any one esle experience this? I searched before i posted this. Mods please delete and guide me to a thread if its been created.
anyone?
Try this
Credits to MobileTechReview and Lisa and pdagal (saw this on youtube, so I'm not sure where the original thread is.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgx2Kpfi-Ps&feature=relmfu
Haven't tried this out because I don't own this device. What am I doing here??? Who knows.
I experiend this problem with my Prime too. I used GPS Test, w/ or w/o wifi indoor and I get not signal.
Yeah I did too, took it back got another one with mediocre GPS which pretty much is the best you can get. The perfect working prime does not exist, some people will say they have it but they will also say they don't care about GPS. lol
Good luck hope u can still exchange the thing.
you probably have a terrible connection to the gps antenna. my bet is if you go for a drive and point your TFP out the window for 10 mins you might pick up five sats with bad SNR. exchange it!
Try this for GPS...
I am using this on my android phone: GPS 2 Bluetooth v.2.2 by
cajax
And this on the tablet: Bluetooth GPS by Googoo Android
Download from Android Market and follow the directions and you will get full GPS,,,,especially in the house or car with phone close to window
Settings
-on tablet and phone make sure in Development the Allow for mock locations is checked
-on the Bluetooth GPS by Googoo Android app on tablet check mark in settings "Use insecure connection"
Yeah... there is a billion threads on this forum about GPS problems. Mine is non-existent as well.
I was told that it worked for some people before the firmware / ICS upgrade. But if you are looking for GPS, I would highly recommend you take the Prime back and get something else... because Asus pretty much removed that feature off the spec sheet and stated that "it's not designed to be a professional GPS device"
I am on my 3rd prime before I could see any satellites with mine. Here is a video of one working and one not working.
My GPS worked one time, one night. It never worked before or since. So yes, my WiFi is basically dead on arrival and is completely useless and non functioning.
I finally decide to return mine for a fix, Asus sent me the RMA infomation.
I am kinda disappointed in Asus tranformer prime I have been waiting for it more than a year, else I could have iPad 2.
my case: the GPS work out for the couple of first time OUTdoor only. Then after I update to ICS, GPS was stopped working on both w/ or w/o WIFI, outdoor or indoor.
I also the Wifi was having some issues too, the signal was always week, the further you get from the access point, it is likely you want have wifi...where my iPhonw 4 is working at the same distance....
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I am on my 3rd prime before I could see any satellites with mine. Here is a video of one working and one not working.
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Wow, interesting. When you consider the Prime's only been out a little over a month so h/w should be the same and they're all running the same s/w there shouldn't be huge differences between them. Out of curiousity, do they perform differently with Wi-Fi also?
BarryH_GEG said:
Wow, interesting. When you consider the Prime's only been out a little over a month so h/w should be the same and they're all running the same s/w there shouldn't be huge differences between them. Out of curiousity, do they perform differently with Wi-Fi also?
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I have had good wifi on all three. Using speed test app on both my phone and the prime, they both pulled almost identical speeds all over my house. The first one had the serial # unkown issue, gps not working at all and screen bleed. The second one also had screen bleed and no gps found. The third one is a keeper, so far everything works out great. It sucks that I got used to the other 2 primes, customized it and then had to return it. But now, since I have a keeper, I am really going to customize the hell out of it lol.
A lot of the wifi problems I had when I first got the Prime eroded away. Mainly it was Wifi and Bluetooth pair problems, but after nearly a month with the Prime I find that I've been Bluetooth pairing and viewing Hulu+ (hacked) / Netflix without issues.
My GPS isn't prefect, but it works enough where I'm not planning to RMA (or return my Prime) because of it.
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whoa... alot of posts!
i dont plan on sending it back, i can live without gps, ill rather use it on my phone.... and the wifi is working fine... just find it a bit weird that it didnt work at all!
worst way for any company to start a top line item... if this worked perfect, imagine how many more sales they would of done... so sad
All,
I am open to suggestions on what to do with my prime. Some background:
I bought it because I wanted an Android table that I didn't have to hack to make work and that I didn't have to keep plugged in all the time. I had a Viewsonic Gtablet and that was such a turd I was totally disgusted with having to support it anytime I wanted to use it. I just wanted it to work, but as I am an Engineer by trade I liked the flexiblity that came with an Android tablet vs an iPad.
I was one of the early ones to get the prime, and as such I thoroughly tested everything, screen bleed, dead pixels, battery, bluetooth, wireless, GPS, the whole 9 yards. Then I got the patch that came out around New Years Day and never got GPS back. I called support and they wanted me to send it in for at least 7 days. I found that to be ridiculous and decided to live with it. I got hopeful that as other people got theirs working with newer patches mine would too.
I just got the new patch the other day, still no GPS and as I was trying to use my tablet tonight, it was slower than dirt. I run a speed test and I get 1.5Mbps down, and I pull out my phone and run a speed test over wireless (802.11, not 4G) and I get 15Mbps down. Ran the same tests a few times with consistent results.
I just want a tablet that works and everything works as it should. I don't want an Apple product as I take long flights and like to be able to watch mkvs as well as a couple of other things Apple doesn't do easily. I really thought my Prime would be the solution for me.
So your thoughts on my options:
Return it to ASUS for service, how likely am I to be satisified with those results?
I see that there is a potential fix for GPS, is there one for WIFI? I don't want to hack it to get my stuff to work, but it is an option.
Sell it and buy an Apple Product.
My wife has an iPad and anytime I have issues with my Prime, I pick hers up and it just rocks and rolls. I really like Android and the features it offers over an iOS device, not to mention I really HATE iTunes.
Thanks in advance,
Kevin
I understand about itunes, it drove my away from apple also. But it seems as if the Prime really isn't the tablet for you. I don't know if its just hardware or bad luck, either way I sorry to hear your having problems.
I don't think anyone can make the decision as to what you should do, however it seems as if you have made up your mind already. If you think ipad is a better solution then that might be the better pad for you. Good luck.
unlock it, throw a custom rom on it. worries will be over
IMO, try to return it for a device with C20 or above on the serial number.
Check and see if you can get an exchange, or refund. Refund is probably the better idea over exchange.
For GPS.. if the feature is important to you, Transformer Prime simply isn't the right tablet for you. Look for other alternatives .....
As for WIFI:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5688/apple-ipad-2012-review/18
It could just be Anandtech's Prime (however, mine is similar to Annandtech.. slightly better or worse on each given day)... but either way, you will be taking a chance if you wish to re-purchase Transformer Prime.
shinzz said:
Check and see if you can get an exchange, or refund. Refund is probably the better idea over exchange.
For GPS.. if the feature is important to you, Transformer Prime simply isn't the right tablet for you. Look for other alternatives .....
As for WIFI:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5688/apple-ipad-2012-review/18
It could just be Anandtech's Prime (however, mine is similar to Annandtech.. slightly better or worse on each given day)... but either way, you will be taking a chance if you wish to re-purchase Transformer Prime.
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Why is GPS so important? If you really have this device mounted in your car, you should be shot. A 10 inch screen has no place in your car. Look at the road, for christ. Buy a decent smartphone that has GPS. There's really no reason for a tablet to have GPS anymore, with the Wifi system.
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here is my suggestion~
Prime isn't perfect, nor the new ipad is and its hard for every user to expect its do all the things it supposed to do (I know its on the spec and we all want it working fine... but u know ipad wasn't perfect too, though it came with a extra egg-cooking function which is not on the spec list) I guess in other few patches, Prime will finally work the way u want it be, but u know, getting other tablet may disappoint u in other ways as well. chances are always there~
so if u really want GPS then refund it~
if u can bear the difference of 1.5 mbps and 15 mbps, then it worth the wait ~
kjp1231 said:
All,
I am open to suggestions on what to do with my prime. Some background:
I bought it because I wanted an Android table that I didn't have to hack to make work and that I didn't have to keep plugged in all the time. I had a Viewsonic Gtablet and that was such a turd I was totally disgusted with having to support it anytime I wanted to use it. I just wanted it to work, but as I am an Engineer by trade I liked the flexiblity that came with an Android tablet vs an iPad.
I was one of the early ones to get the prime, and as such I thoroughly tested everything, screen bleed, dead pixels, battery, bluetooth, wireless, GPS, the whole 9 yards. Then I got the patch that came out around New Years Day and never got GPS back. I called support and they wanted me to send it in for at least 7 days. I found that to be ridiculous and decided to live with it. I got hopeful that as other people got theirs working with newer patches mine would too.
I just got the new patch the other day, still no GPS and as I was trying to use my tablet tonight, it was slower than dirt. I run a speed test and I get 1.5Mbps down, and I pull out my phone and run a speed test over wireless (802.11, not 4G) and I get 15Mbps down. Ran the same tests a few times with consistent results.
I just want a tablet that works and everything works as it should. I don't want an Apple product as I take long flights and like to be able to watch mkvs as well as a couple of other things Apple doesn't do easily. I really thought my Prime would be the solution for me.
So your thoughts on my options:
Return it to ASUS for service, how likely am I to be satisified with those results?
I see that there is a potential fix for GPS, is there one for WIFI? I don't want to hack it to get my stuff to work, but it is an option.
Sell it and buy an Apple Product.
My wife has an iPad and anytime I have issues with my Prime, I pick hers up and it just rocks and rolls. I really like Android and the features it offers over an iOS device, not to mention I really HATE iTunes.
Thanks in advance,
Kevin
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Well if you can live a few months without a tablet, return it and wait for the infinity... It should resolve most of the issues.
rorytmeadows said:
Why is GPS so important? If you really have this device mounted in your car, you should be shot. A 10 inch screen has no place in your car. Look at the road, for christ. Buy a decent smartphone that has GPS. There's really no reason for a tablet to have GPS anymore, with the Wifi system.
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Amen!!, This should be stickied and placed in bold. Anybody who buys a wifi device (like the Prime) that would have to be tethered to another device with a cell radio (like a cell phone) to be used properly, but complains that the GPS won't work, needs to rethink the purpose for a wifi tablet.
GPS on a tablet is a gimmick feature at best and I don't blame Asus for removing it from spec. It certainly isn't worth the headache it has casued.
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Amen!!, This should be stickied and placed in bold. Anybody who buys a wifi device (like the Prime) that would have to be tethered to another device with a cell radio (like a cell phone) to be used properly, but complains that the GPS won't work, needs to rethink the purpose for a wifi tablet.
GPS on a tablet is a gimmick feature at best and I don't blame Asus for removing it from spec. It certainly isn't worth the headache it has casued.
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Part of the problem with the Prime forum is ill-informed posts like this one, and the post that prompted it. Note, I'm not singling out the individual posters here as this seems to be a very common sentiment on the Prime forum these days, but just using these posts as an example.
There are many reasons why someone might want GPS on their WiFi only tablet beyond navigation, and even if you did want to use it for navigation in a vehicle, there is absolutely *no* requirement for it to be tethered if you have offline maps.
There are plenty of apps out there that rely on GPS for things like marine navigation, hiking, geo-tagging photos etc that don't need data access, but require having working GPS. Something like the Prime with its IPS+ screen is ideal for those sorts of uses, *if* the GPS worked correctly. Saying that it is a "gimmick feature", or doesn't matter because the WiFi iPad doesn't have it, is patently absurd.
Ok, so Asus have stopped advertising the Prime as having GPS, but that doesn't help those who purchase the Prime beforehand, or those like the OP who had functioning GPS which was nerfed by an update.
It's incredibly short-sighted to just assume that because *you* don't have a use for GPS on a WiFi tablet, no one else does.
Can we please stop with attacking people who just want their tablets to work as they expected?
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Part of the problem with the Prime forum is ill-informed posts like this one, and the post that prompted it. Note, I'm not singling out the individual posters here as this seems to be a very common sentiment on the Prime forum these days, but just using these posts as an example.
There are many reasons why someone might want GPS on their WiFi only tablet beyond navigation, and even if you did want to use it for navigation in a vehicle, there is absolutely *no* requirement for it to be tethered if you have offline maps.
There are plenty of apps out there that rely on GPS for things like marine navigation, hiking, geo-tagging photos etc that don't need data access, but require having working GPS. Something like the Prime with its IPS+ screen is ideal for those sorts of uses, *if* the GPS worked correctly. Saying that it is a "gimmick feature", or doesn't matter because the WiFi iPad doesn't have it, is patently absurd.
Ok, so Asus have stopped advertising the Prime as having GPS, but that doesn't help those who purchase the Prime beforehand, or those like the OP who had functioning GPS which was nerfed by an update.
It's incredibly short-sighted to just assume that because *you* don't have a use for GPS on a WiFi tablet, no one else does.
Can we please stop with attacking people who just want their tablets to work as they expected?
Regards,
Dave
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Thank you Dave, couldn't have said it better myself.
I didn't buy the tablet so that I could mount it on my dashboard and drive around with it. My previous tablet didn't have GPS, the Apple products do as does the original Transformer. When I pre-ordered mine GPS was listed as a feature and I expected it to work right. It did right out of the box until the first patch came, Asus doesn't recognize it as a hardware problem. GPS is not just for directions, there are quite a bit of applications out there that use Location Based Services and when you aren't connected to Wi-Fi, it would be nice that the GPS actually worked as GPS is a better at Location Based Services than Wi-Fi is.
I also bought a product that supports Wi-FI, accepting that 1.5Mbps down is not really an option.
I just want a product that works everytime I pick it up. The Gtablet was not that product as the ROMS were always in development, and there was always one feature or another not working. That is why when I bout the Prime I wanted a product that just worked.
Kevin
ill1 said:
I understand about itunes, it drove my away from apple also. But it seems as if the Prime really isn't the tablet for you. I don't know if its just hardware or bad luck, either way I sorry to hear your having problems.
I don't think anyone can make the decision as to what you should do, however it seems as if you have made up your mind already. If you think ipad is a better solution then that might be the better pad for you. Good luck.
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Thank you ill,
I haven't made up my mind yet, I really really do not want an Apple product. I really want a functioning Android product. I was more posting to see what suggestions people had to get mine to be fully functioning as the product that was advertised and I bought.
Kevin
bk201doesntexist said:
IMO, try to return it for a device with C20 or above on the serial number.
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returning it is not an option as this was a pre-order and I only had 30 days to return it. I got it the last week of December 2011.
Why not try the Samsung tab 10.1?
If GPS is a requirement, I'd go for a cheap bluetooth GPS, if you can find one that's compatible, and rely on a mobile hotspot if you need data on the road. That being said, I dunno if the bluetooth + wifi problem affects GPS in such a configuration. The Samsung tablet is also a good alternative...that, and a good Windows tablet can be overlaid with RoadRunner or other control and give you a car-oriented interface for Nav and control of music, etc. that rivals a lot of factory control systems. From what I've seen of what's available in android thus far, the options for a control interface in android don't come close to what's available for windows...
My combination of problems differs; I never had a usable GPS, but since the .15 update, I've had no GPS at all (no satellites). That, and the no serial issue, and the bluetooth (A2DP) drops out when streaming audio or video over wifi.
I'm thinking about an RMA, but I'm not encouraged by the reports of effectiveness for forum members that have gone through the process...I'm kinda waiting on the "big announcement" from Gary before I pass judgment on the RMA. I'm kinda hoping on being able to unlock the device at some point, and at least be able to load a custom ROM if I'm stuck with no OTA updates. In the mean time, the tablet makes a great media consumption device and game platform, and I'd like to explore the keyboard option in the near future.
To those with a problem with a car mount: You'd rather someone use a 4.5" Garmin or a dash-mount 7" factory nav? You do know that it's easier to glance at a larger screen when it comes to navigating, right? I don't suggest use of the tablet while driving: Pre-program your routes (and playlists for music) before you go, and pull over for geo-tagging or finding restaurants, etc....but there's no reason a tablet can't be used for in-car purposes, so long as you use a little common sense and foresight. I run a laptop with an in-dash touch screen (7") carputer system, it works fine this way.
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If GPS is a requirement, I'd go for a cheap bluetooth GPS, if you can find one that's compatible, and rely on a mobile hotspot if you need data on the road. That being said, I dunno if the bluetooth + wifi problem affects GPS in such a configuration. The Samsung tablet is also a good alternative...that, and a good Windows tablet can be overlaid with RoadRunner or other control and give you a car-oriented interface for Nav and control of music, etc. that rivals a lot of factory control systems. From what I've seen of what's available in android thus far, the options for a control interface in android don't come close to what's available for windows...
My combination of problems differs; I never had a usable GPS, but since the .15 update, I've had no GPS at all (no satellites). That, and the no serial issue, and the bluetooth (A2DP) drops out when streaming audio or video over wifi.
I'm thinking about an RMA, but I'm not encouraged by the reports of effectiveness for forum members that have gone through the process...I'm kinda waiting on the "big announcement" from Gary before I pass judgment on the RMA. I'm kinda hoping on being able to unlock the device at some point, and at least be able to load a custom ROM if I'm stuck with no OTA updates. In the mean time, the tablet makes a great media consumption device and game platform, and I'd like to explore the keyboard option in the near future.
To those with a problem with a car mount: You'd rather someone use a 4.5" Garmin or a dash-mount 7" factory nav? You do know that it's easier to glance at a larger screen when it comes to navigating, right? I don't suggest use of the tablet while driving: Pre-program your routes (and playlists for music) before you go, and pull over for geo-tagging or finding restaurants, etc....but there's no reason a tablet can't be used for in-car purposes, so long as you use a little common sense and foresight. I run a laptop with an in-dash touch screen (7") carputer system, it works fine this way.
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I actually purchased cheap Bluetooth GPS to tether to my Prime. I personally find it annoying that I have to carry multiple device & charger... =/
This will ultimately depend on the user...
As for big announcement, don't expect a miracle or hardware "solution" provided by Asus (especially on GPS).
Btw, if the OP can wait.. there are other options.
Such as this one...
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-A510-10s...TWKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333374516&sr=8-1
reNeglect said:
Well if you can live a few months without a tablet, return it and wait for the infinity... It should resolve most of the issues.
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Returned mine to Amazon today and now eagerly awaiting the arrival of the Infinity so that I can buy it!
kjp1231 said:
returning it is not an option as this was a pre-order and I only had 30 days to return it. I got it the last week of December 2011.
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You should be able to RMA it with Asus. If the unit they send as a replacement doesn't meet your needs, sell it on eBay. Even used you should have no problem getting $400-450 for it.
I haven't had any of the issues you have described aside from the poor GPS. WiFi works great, the tablet's performance is smooth and apps run fast with no issue. Also the latest update got rid of the annoying "Browser Not Responding" glitch after I did a factory reset.
FYI, GPS never really worked. It it seemed to either you hadn't really tested it, or the Prime was lying to you
If GPS is a necessary feature you will never be happy with the Prime. And yes, I also have an early model (BBOK) with GPS listed as a feature on the box.
almightywhacko said:
FYI, GPS never really worked. It it seemed to either you hadn't really tested it, or the Prime was lying to you
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I tested my unit very thoroughly as soon as I got it out of the box. I was consistently getting a very fast lock on to at least 13 satellites inside my house. Not sure how the prime would have lied about that. Since the first update around January 1, I cannot get it to lock on to any sattelites outside my house in a field no matter how I hold the unit.
foxmeister said:
Part of the problem with the Prime forum is ill-informed posts like this one, and the post that prompted it. Note, I'm not singling out the individual posters here as this seems to be a very common sentiment on the Prime forum these days, but just using these posts as an example.
There are many reasons why someone might want GPS on their WiFi only tablet beyond navigation, and even if you did want to use it for navigation in a vehicle, there is absolutely *no* requirement for it to be tethered if you have offline maps.
There are plenty of apps out there that rely on GPS for things like marine navigation, hiking, geo-tagging photos etc that don't need data access, but require having working GPS. Something like the Prime with its IPS+ screen is ideal for those sorts of uses, *if* the GPS worked correctly. Saying that it is a "gimmick feature", or doesn't matter because the WiFi iPad doesn't have it, is patently absurd.
Ok, so Asus have stopped advertising the Prime as having GPS, but that doesn't help those who purchase the Prime beforehand, or those like the OP who had functioning GPS which was nerfed by an update.
It's incredibly short-sighted to just assume that because *you* don't have a use for GPS on a WiFi tablet, no one else does.
Can we please stop with attacking people who just want their tablets to work as they expected?
Regards,
Dave
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I'm not singling out any individual posters either but since you used mine and noted the one that prompted my response then I'll respond to you.
On this forum I come across a lot of threads that get hijacked because of the GPS issue, it's a known problem Asus acknowledged it and took it off spec. You could always ask for a refund or sell it and get one that is better suited for your needs. It would be a completely different thing if Asus hadn't acknowledged it or worse just simply ignored it but they haven't.
No GPS is not an issue for me, but I understand it is for others however Asus has said it may not work properly and should not be considered in place of a professional GPS unit. There are other tablets that may be a better fit for users who need GPS . So I don't believe it's me who's being short sighted.
I never meant to attack anyone if you feel attacked I apologize but I stand by what I wrote.
I have an RMA to send my unit back to Asus and before I do I would like to get a general idea of GPS functionality over a broader user group. If I think that I can get one with usable GPS I will do the RMA.. Thanks.
GPS is *bad*
Sid_Daley said:
I have an RMA to send my unit back to Asus and before I do I would like to get a general idea of GPS functionality over a broader user group. If I think that I can get one with usable GPS I will do the RMA.. Thanks.
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You will never get one with GPS that functions *well*. They made the GPS kit to "fix" the GPS problem, but I dont think you can order it any more. You might look around on here to see if someone is selling/giving theirs away.
tl;dr; I wouldn't count on getting one where GPS functions like you want.
I just received a gps kit from Asus even though the offer is expired and my tablet was purchased as a refurb 2 weeks ago all I did was sign up for one and 4 days later it was at my door completely free of charge. Follow the steps here event.asus.com/ASUSPad/TF201GPS/ hopefully they send one out to you as well.
I have the dongle as well, but it doesn't really get a GPS lock with it. I wonder if the further north you are the harder it is for reception?
SD
The answer for me has allway been simple, use a bluetooth gps device. They are small, cheap and vastly more efficient than any built in GPS whatever tablet you have. You can place it in an optimum place, be it your pocket or the corner under the windscreen and you can still charge your Prime. It updates my position faster than my wife's Tomtom. The downside is wifi is compromised by the bluetooth but since I never use wifi while on the move, it makes no difference to me.
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I have the dongle as well, but it doesn't really get a GPS lock with it. I wonder if the further north you are the harder it is for reception?
SD
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Why would that matter? anyway, i get a lock that's adequate for Google Earth and Flightradar24, that's good enough for me:good:
PS: That's indoors (upstairs flat) without using the dongle.
Migman said:
Why would that matter? anyway, i get a lock that's adequate for Google Earth and Flightradar24, that's good enough for me:good:
PS: That's indoors (upstairs flat) without using the dongle.
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I cant even get 1 satelite and the dongle only gets me 1.
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ian1 said:
I cant even get 1 satelite and the dongle only gets me 1.
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I bought mine earlier in the year and got the dongle. It's pretty good in terms of reception, at least in my area (south Israel): I got more locks with it than I had with my cellphones before. That said, the device itself is quite a nightmare to operate: you attach it to the bottom part of the tablet and it completely obstructs the docking port, giving you no way to charge the tablet until it's removed. Of course if you have a case/enclosure for your tablet, taking it out constantly is very inconvenient, making things even more annoying, but from what I can see, it does give you GPS...
As for the built-in GPS - it receives absolutely nothing. For people who hope to get at least one unusable satellite in an open field on a clear day: forget about it! I tried to get into the open as much as I could and there was zero reception everywhere. Short of taking a Shuttle right next to that GPS satellite or modding your expensive tablet with antenna strips made out of tin foil or something (which I saw a person on YouTube do), you won't be receiving anything at any time through the built-in GPS module...
TF201 GPS Remedy
If you're still having GPS problems with your TF201 and have root access, download TF201_External_GPS.zip and flash it in recovery or with GooManager, etc. My GPS was dead with or without the dongle, and after flashing that file the GPS reception in my TF201 is just as good as it is in my Samsung Galaxy S2 phone. There is a TF201-GPSTweaks.zip that you can try as well, but I didn't notice a difference with that.
alexmojo said:
If you're still having GPS problems with your TF201 and have root access, download TF201_External_GPS.zip and flash it in recovery or with GooManager, etc. My GPS was dead with or without the dongle, and after flashing that file the GPS reception in my TF201 is just as good as it is in my Samsung Galaxy S2 phone. There is a TF201-GPSTweaks.zip that you can try as well, but I didn't notice a difference with that.
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I ordered the GPS dongle last week from their site in received it today but I also bought the prime 3 weeks agoeither way GPS works the same with or without it for me
I haven't rooted yet but I will be, do you have a download link for TF201_External_GPS.zip..
Thanks
alexmojo said:
If you're still having GPS problems with your TF201 and have root access, download TF201_External_GPS.zip and flash it in recovery or with GooManager, etc. My GPS was dead with or without the dongle, and after flashing that file the GPS reception in my TF201 is just as good as it is in my Samsung Galaxy S2 phone. There is a TF201-GPSTweaks.zip that you can try as well, but I didn't notice a difference with that.
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my transformer tf 201 work very well with bluetooth gps reciever
I just buy bluetooth gps reciever 'CoPiloT' about GBP 15, it work very well . I can use SYGIC NAVIGATION so smooth .