It's been a struggle for me from day one to like Xperia S after using Arc for a very long time. Performance wise there are no issues with S.
Out the box it did have the WOW factor. My friend got white and I went with black and I personally liked white and I wish I ordered it.
Why I want to get back to Arc?
1. I don't know how much longer it takes me to get it but those capacitive buttons need to be pressed couple of times for me. Especially the back button. I don't know if it's because I am a lefty. But even other buttons, I seem to have to try second, third time and it only gets worse in total darkness.
2. The design doesn't look as nice as in pictures. Feels like an HTC phone. It only looks cool on the back side.
3. The USB flap is a joke and it definitely won't last long for me.
4. The bottom bezel is just too wide as I expected.
5. Front camera doesn't look well designed. You can see metal petals around it making it look like a rushed design.
6. Just too thick after enjoying the sleek curvy Arc.
7. Wish ICS around the corner I think Sony rushed this product which is mostly designed for Android 2.3.7. There is no need for those Capacitive buttons when I don't find they need spot on touch. It's like hitting a bull-eyes for me with back button.
Some Pros
1. Camera responsiveness is amazing.
2. Sleep SE UI which I love and can be had on Arc as well.
3. Transparent strip is super cool design idea. I might actually consider Xperia P after I read user reviews.
Give it a 2nd thought
Aren't u being a little bit harsh on the device
U may be right with some things about the design but it doesn't make it horrible to ditch it that soon...
- the capacitive buttons could be handled by doing a slide motion on it and that gives a dynamic more comfortable move and would be a lot easier for u than righties
- the design is more than awesome, yes not like the arc but it's really neat and every model has to be different than the other, that's life, and so what it's like htc (amazing devices)
- the flap is useful for making the device more sleek and avoiding dirt which ruins most devices in the future, and it is durable and not that fragile as u think, it will last don't worry
- the bottom bezel is nothing of any concern, i advice u not to look at the bottom!
- u may be right about the front camera but not that obvious and could be tolerated
- the thick design makes it more sturdy and well fitted design to hold in hand!
- ICS is not so far away from now, and being it not present out the box is to make u appreciate the device more well in every aspect after the upgrade!!
IMO, enjoy this magnificent phone and look at its bright side and the many more pros of this master piece!!
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Aren't u being a little bit harsh on the device
U may be right with some things about the design but it doesn't make it horrible to ditch it that soon...
- the capacitive buttons could be handled by doing a slide motion on it and that gives a dynamic more comfortable move and would be a lot easier for u than righties
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Thanks for this tip. The slide seems to nail it now .
I believe you are right about the design issues though. So much so that am now in a quandry over my imminent upgrade.................
kitsVA said:
It's been a struggle for me from day one to like Xperia S after using Arc for a very long time. Performance wise there are no issues with S.
Out the box it did have the WOW factor. My friend got white and I went with black and I personally liked white and I wish I ordered it.
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Sorry for feeling that way(I wanted to sound like a Sony rep which I am not )
Why I want to get back to Arc?
1. I don't know how much longer it takes me to get it but those capacitive buttons need to be pressed couple of times for me. Especially the back button. I don't know if it's because I am a lefty. But even other buttons, I seem to have to try second, third time and it only gets worse in total darkness.
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Mine were OK from the begining and then I used the slide trick and made it much better.
2. The design doesn't look as nice as in pictures. Feels like an HTC phone. It only looks cool on the back side.
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I got the white one and it looks nicer than video and no where close to HTC. This is much more solid that the arc and it looks nice in front (maybe since I have the white one I can see the contrast of black screen with white bezel).
3. The USB flap is a joke and it definitely won't last long for me.
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I agree, and thats why I liked Xperia P but I didn't like Xperia arc usb either, just the big hole that it was like a misplaced design.
4. The bottom bezel is just too wide as I expected.
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isn't it as wide as upper part of the phone? If you are saying it is long then its because of that transparent part and whatever is inside that bottom. I wish they could do something about it but one issue I had with arc was that bezel is very low and I would hit stuff on screen all the time for no reason. Not to give credit to long bezel on Xperia S. maybe little bit shorter than this.
5. Front camera doesn't look well designed. You can see metal petals around it making it look like a rushed design.
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I could be less visible, maybe they wanted to show off that their phone has a front facing camera in marketing ads before release..
6. Just too thick after enjoying the sleek curvy Arc.
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Agree.
7. Wish ICS around the corner I think Sony rushed this product which is mostly designed for Android 2.3.7. There is no need for those Capacitive buttons when I don't find they need spot on touch. It's like hitting a bull-eyes for me with back button.
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I would rather to illuminate the buttons on screen and only use the capacitive buttons instead to give more room to screen itself.
ICS should be around corner (beginning of April)
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1. Camera responsiveness is amazing.
2. Sleep SE UI which I love and can be had on Arc as well.
3. Transparent strip is super cool design idea. I might actually consider Xperia P after I read user reviews.
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All those + I am with you for Xperia P. I wish Xperia P had a little bit bigger screen and I wouldn't mind other stuff.
Happy to have Xperia S in white.
Thanks for your review.
Noticed the button response when looking at it in store. Right handed and found it a little unresponsive to my touch. Design is super cool though. Just wish they had waited and released shipped with ics. Looks promising, worries me the amount of them that have been damaged by people, just dropping a small height.
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This is much more solid that the arc and it looks nice in front (maybe since I have the white one I can see the contrast of black screen with white bezel).
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Build quality is way better than Arc. I just played with my friends white Xperia S again and the bottom bezel doesn't feel long mainly because of the white bezel contrasting from the black screen/glass part of the phone. Looks like I might actually sell black and get back on white. I did this same crap with my Arc. Rushed for Silver from Japan and sold to only get the darker one
All those + I am with you for Xperia P. I wish Xperia P had a little bit bigger screen and I wouldn't mind other stuff.
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After using Arc for so long and now S and with Galaxy Nexus for few weeks, 4" sounds tiny these days . I hate cases but I might just consider one for S. Few more weeks with the phone and I believe the sensitivity of the buttons will probably get better due to Muscle Memory
I have just got my xps it is great no issues at all
Everything is perfect I dont know why people are unhappy dont they know what they want out of the handset I do I am a powrr user this phone is the best out there and it is sony u cant go wrong people
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So go back then.
I don't know why you feel you should like this phone, taste is subjective. If you don't like it, send it back and stick with the Arc or buy something else.
Don't know where you are or how your bought the device but in the EU the distance selling regulations allow for return within 7 days (apart from damage/misuse obviously) even if you just change your mind. Assuming you ordered online, just do that.
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Design is my point of view and taste and not necessarily everyone's feeling.
There are still lots of folks here that may really want to buy Xperia S and either they can’t make up their minds or there are thing that it’s not solid for them to make the move. I was one of those people couple days ago but I usually do what it should be done so it gets out of my mind.
I have been owning some SE phone but Android wise, I started with X10 like many others here. Later I bought Xperia arc and still have it and now moving to Sony Xperia S.
I am not going to be technical about stuff right now but some design corners which had me wandered for sometimes.
I should say before and after purchasing Xperia S, I watched many videos available online and nothing (none) of them is anywhere close to what you get, so you can expect more
In video, box looks like Pizza box and wired but if you are a Sony’s product user then you are very familiar with quality and inside you won’t see any attractive pieces but simple and functional stuff which is great to see what Sony has done even to boxing as far as size, shape and coloring. Simple!
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First when you take the phone out of the box, its bigger that what you imagined but in matter of 2 minutes, you will tell yourself that “this is how big the ideal phone should be” and arc looks like a baby to Xperia S but Xperia S looks and feels so powerful. Screen is gorgeous and big with lots of nice colors; I got the white one so that black screen stands itself out.
Housing is part of nature. If you happen to get the white color then expect some blending with nature and changing color. You put it in in your jean’s back pocket, it could get bluish in some part or I tried to kind of stick it into my arc’s case then all the black stuff rubbed against Xperia S and made it black but you could always wipe it off with no problem. Even if it sounds weird and something you don’t like, I really enjoyed how it could blend with whatever you do as a simple material.
Power button is extremely nice in size and shape with good functionality.
Notification light at left upper corner and it is wonderful to have it back there.
In white color, white tiny band around screen looks very nice.
Of course I am not big of flaps for HDMI and USB but it keeps your phone to look nice and simple and they are not hard to pop and slide right in.
In most of videos that I saw, they nagged about those three touch sensitive button at the bottom (whatever you call them) and that made me so worried if I may not like them. There were saying it’s hard to activate and it doesn’t work all the time but I think it is actually very useful. In Xperia ARC I didn’t like that Home button could take phone out of sleep but in Xperia S there is no such problem since only button to do that is power button on top which is well designed to do its job.
Those touch sensitive buttons are fairly nice, on each of them there is a visible dot (you see them in some angles) and with press of little finger on them you could activate them, nothing to worry about as they function as nice as they should.
And last but not lease, transparent strip at the bottom which is part of iconic looks of Xperia S is a well-designed part of the phone with lots of idea in mind. I could never imagine the day someone could bring some lighting architecture into a gadget. I think the execution is very nice with three lights lidding up the “back” “home” “menu” logos inside the transparent strip. Well-done.
Phone runs at decent speed and UI has improved drastically from what we had seen in arc and it is obvious that Sony is trying its best to gives us the best user experience which we should give them credit for not making us commercial guinea pigs by throwing new stuff without experimenting them first.
I think this phone is recommended for people that really like to have a phone with unique design, maybe its not the best high-end processing phone in the market but it is the best in its own class and functionality.
Comments and photo requests are welcome.
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Congrats on your phone buddy
it looks amazing , i love the white
the pictures were bad a**
im impressed with the review
thanks for the sharing
thumbs up on your thoughts
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the S, I also pre-ordered the white version so this was helpful.
I can't wait to get my hands on this beauty.
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Congrats on the purchase
Finally, a decent size comparison with the Arc!
And... that does it for me. I couldn't decide between S and P, but now it's pretty obvious the S is too large. I just hope the P will be available stores soon
Would you mind taking a pic of the phones one on top of the other, screen-on-screen? Kind of like the one you took, but taken at a horizontal level... so we could get a better idea of the difference in thickness. Maybe place them near the edge of a table, so you can lower the camera to their level?
S and P are both 10.5mm thick, so the comparison will be valid for both. Cheers!
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Even if it sounds weird and something you don’t like, I really enjoyed how it could blend with whatever you do as a simple material.
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Thanks for posting the great pics. Can you clarify what you stated above? It almost sounds like you enjoy to see your phone get dirty. Not in the sense that it will display adult material, but rather in the literal sense, microscopic flecks of lint, dirt, or perhaps mud adhering to the surface of your device, discoloring it. That can't be what you enjoy, can it?
Hell yea it's not the high-end phone out there but the design wise it's the best, to be honest htc one line-up don't look great and too big and look like htc sensation xl.
I think this is the best design for so far. Gotta get this baby in my hand. can you post more pics?
cezarL said:
Congrats on the purchase
Finally, a decent size comparison with the Arc!
And... that does it for me. I couldn't decide between S and P, but now it's pretty obvious the S is too large. I just hope the P will be available stores soon
Would you mind taking a pic of the phones one on top of the other, screen-on-screen? Kind of like the one you took, but taken at a horizontal level... so we could get a better idea of the difference in thickness. Maybe place them near the edge of a table, so you can lower the camera to their level?
S and P are both 10.5mm thick, so the comparison will be valid for both. Cheers!
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Xperia P is 10.5mm and Xperia S is 10.6 and here is a pic for you. Xperia P is also nice.
floepie said:
Thanks for posting the great pics. Can you clarify what you stated above? It almost sounds like you enjoy to see your phone get dirty. Not in the sense that it will display adult material, but rather in the literal sense, microscopic flecks of lint, dirt, or perhaps mud adhering to the surface of your device, discoloring it. That can't be what you enjoy, can it?
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Well, as I said it sounds really weird that I said it but in about 4 hours Xperia S got blue colors from my jean and black strips from a tight case. I have never touched material like it and it is very nice. Its easy to clean and maybe not the best choice for everyone but I really enjoyed how it really reacts against other material.
It also displays adult material in any sense.
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Well, as I said it sounds really weird that I said it but in about 4 hours Xperia S got blue colors from my jean and black strips from a tight case. I have never touched material like it and it is very nice. Its easy to clean and maybe not the best choice for everyone but I really enjoyed how it really reacts against other material.
It also displays adult material in any sense.
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Thanks for sharing
Great review and pics! I just got the white version myself, it's amazing I'm getting great feedback from all my friends.
ssj_jaypee said:
Great review and pics! I just got the white version myself, it's amazing I'm getting great feedback from all my friends.
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Nice, Where did you get yours? it is such a lovely phone! I agree.
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Nice, Where did you get yours? it is such a lovely phone! I agree.
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Negri Electronics in the states.
They shipped overnight to Canada. I'm very happy with the service!
ssj_jaypee said:
Negri Electronics in the states.
They shipped overnight to Canada. I'm very happy with the service!
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How do you like the touch sensitive button on the bottom?
Nimche said:
How do you like the touch sensitive button on the bottom?
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took a little bit to get used to, but I love them now.
best part is that it keeps the front part of the phone smooth and flowing since there are no physical buttons, also before with my X10 my phone would wake up from standby mode because the buttons would press in my pocket but now I don't have this problem.
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took a little bit to get used to, but I love them now.
best part is that it keeps the front part of the phone smooth and flowing since there are no physical buttons, also before with my X10 my phone would wake up from standby mode because the buttons would press in my pocket but now I don't have this problem.
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as you said that is the best problem. I had that issue in X10 and then arc and I was always pissed since my case was like slide the phone in. Have you found a case? Does the Negri one from HongKong?(on the box says white/ white in Chinese)? or did it come with smart tags?
Customs?
I live in Canada too (Vancouver).
Did you use Fedex?
How much customs did you have to pay?
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Negri Electronics in the states.
They shipped overnight to Canada. I'm very happy with the service!
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as you said that is the best problem. I had that issue in X10 and then arc and I was always pissed since my case was like slide the phone in. Have you found a case? Does the Negri one from HongKong?(on the box says white/ white in Chinese)? or did it come with smart tags?
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Negri one is from UK. It's completely english but no smart tags included.
Are there cases for this phone yet?
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kenwkto said:
I live in Canada too (Vancouver).
Did you use Fedex?
How much customs did you have to pay?
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I used Fedex international priority. They shipped overnight.
Customs fees was like $37 I think. Damn USA charging everybody.
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Negri one is from UK. It's completely english but no smart tags included.
Are there cases for this phone yet?
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There are some that I listed in the accessories section of the forum but nothing that I found interesting.
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as you said that is the best problem. I had that issue in X10 and then arc and I was always pissed since my case was like slide the phone in. Have you found a case? Does the Negri one from HongKong?(on the box says white/ white in Chinese)? or did it come with smart tags?
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took a little bit to get used to, but I love them now.
best part is that it keeps the front part of the phone smooth and flowing since there are no physical buttons, also before with my X10 my phone would wake up from standby mode because the buttons would press in my pocket but now I don't have this problem.
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good points guys
Great review. I love u! I got the same whitey. Got it at negri electronics I'm loving it so far. Mostly the camera. Takes awesome pics.
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My wife wants the Sony Xperia S. Prob because it looks nice (thats women for you lol). Im interested to hear what exhisting owners think about the device. Both Pluses and minus of owning this device please. I own a HTC senstaion and so right away, I would be looking to compare the 2 phones but thats just me, Im like that. 2 yrs is a long time to be stuck on a contract so I want her to be sure and who better people to ask than the users of xda forums. I always value your thoughs, ideas and advice. Thanks in advance guys
I wrote a review here: http://teendroid.com/index.php/item/14-xperia-s-review
Felimenta97 said:
I wrote a review here: http://teendroid.com/index.php/item/14-xperia-s-review
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Nice little read and very well written. Have you had any issues with it dying on you? What about multitasking? Fiddly?
TudorBlue said:
Nice little read and very well written. Have you had any issues with it dying on you? What about multitasking? Fiddly?
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Well, thanks. Well, multitasking its really good, but some apps really use lot of RAM, so you may see some stuttering once a while. If I understood, the phone will be for your wife. Try asking her permission to root and remove some bloatware she may not use. About dying, I was kinda surprised, sometimes it stopped working and I had to reset it. I'm not sure if it was my fault of heavy usage or its some problem with it. But, if she is like most users, she will use it for some browsing, calls messages and Facebook, the phone is great. Loud and clear calls. I heavily recommend it
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Sweet! thanks Felimenta97
funny my wife has a sensation and thinks my xs is ugly, typical woman lol!
to compare the 2 (both rooted on ics) i find the xs much quicker and smoother, the screen is amazing. camera not many features but picture quality is brilliant.
the only negatives, for me, about the xs are the non physical buttons take a bit of getting used to (no problem now), the power / screen lock button is in a ridiculous position (screen off & lock app solves half the problem) and because of the size of the screen not always easy to reach far corners one handed.
also battery life is slightly worse than sensation, not a huge difference, but noticeable.
so maybe take her to a store see if she likes the feel of it, because performance wise it is an amazing phone.
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funny my wife has a sensation and thinks my xs is ugly, typical woman lol!
to compare the 2 (both rooted on ics) i find the xs much quicker and smoother, the screen is amazing. camera not many features but picture quality is brilliant.
the only negatives, for me, about the xs are the non physical buttons take a bit of getting used to (no problem now), the power / screen lock button is in a ridiculous position (screen off & lock app solves half the problem) and because of the size of the screen not always easy to reach far corners one handed.
also battery life is slightly worse than sensation, not a huge difference, but noticeable.
so maybe take her to a store see if she likes the feel of it, because performance wise it is an amazing phone.
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She picked it up this morning. not had a chance to have a play with it yet. Wil have to make sure my hands are clean, she picked the white one.
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She picked it up this morning. not had a chance to have a play with it yet. Wil have to make sure my hands are clean, she picked the white one.
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No need. Of course they need to be clean, but that doesn't mean you have to wash your hands everytime you will pick up the phone. If you (or she) want to do a quick clean, make your shirt a little "humid" and clean the back of the phone. Once a while, use a soft cloth.
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Hi.
Today im using lg o2x and im thinking about a change to the xperia.
While looking in this forum i notice that there is some problem in the screen,
Is it in all the devices? Is the ics come soon?
And in the bottom line, is it worth buying?
Compared to the O2X freaking everything is worth buying. Later devices don't have screen problems and we already have ICS and will get CM9 soon.
Yep........... its really good.....
But!
1) battery life = LAME(middle usage 19-21 hours)
2)my screen wakes up in the middle of nowhere without pressing any button
Edit:1 24-29 hours with juice defender ultimate 2:fixed updating the phone
Well my o2x is a fantastic phone,not even 1 problem since i install the cm7.
Ok than battery lame, and "live" screen.
How is the browser experience and the speaker quality?
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Well my o2x is a fantastic phone,not even 1 problem since i install the cm7.
Ok than battery lame, and "live" screen.
How is the browser experience and the speaker quality?
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Speaker quality is really good. Browser is nice and it has WebGL which is Sony's unique patch.
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Well my o2x is a fantastic phone,not even 1 problem since i install the cm7.
Ok than battery lame, and "live" screen.
How is the browser experience and the speaker quality?
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Speaker quality is great for me! For web-site browsing I use Firefox and it's really go fast
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I use Chrome and browser experience is good... until you visit intensive sites like The Verge which can be laggy.
Tnx.
one last question, how can i be sure that the xperia i buy wont have that yellow dots problem?
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Tnx.
one last question, how can i be sure that the xperia i buy wont have that yellow dots problem?
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The models that have yellow display have been mostly phased out. The new ones shouldn't have any problem.
LG O2x will always have an awesome community, for modding its very hard to beat currently no matter what phone you buy next even GS3.
Reminds me of the HTC HD2 scene in scope and modding.
The modding scene will hopefully be as good for the SXS, it's quite good tho largly due to the stock Sony software experience being quite nice all round.
-smc
absolutely, yes.
Because its good looking.
And if u dont have any wired needs, Xperia S can fulfill all u life.
I just notice in youtube that the banchmark scores are low compare to the new phones.
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I just notice in youtube that the banchmark scores are low compare to the new phones.
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You can't judge a phone by benchmark. Nexus 7 is another example, not the best in benchmark, but the smoothest compared to other android device. Same goes to Xperia s, smooth.
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Awesome phone, Glad I got it, Screen is amazing, Really smooth on ICS, Speaker is really loud, Looks sexy, Not a bad thing to say about it really, For the first couple of days my screen seemed to have an all over yellow tint but now it's completely gone.
YES worth buying
Camera is awesome!
screen is awesome
looks awesome and unique
Powerfull device,Optimized well.
What about the buttons? I've seen some threads where people say that the buttons are very unresponsive.
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What about the buttons? I've seen some threads where people say that the buttons are very unresponsive.
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Middle button is unresponsive. BUT you get used to it and realize just press a little harder and it will function. don't let the buttons drive you away from this phone. I'm current using/testing HTC ONE X International and Xperia S. So far i'm liking the Xperia S more.
Funny that you ask it here... I looooooove this phone... And the people that hated the phone are obviously not here...
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NO!
Hi, I dreamed of XPERIA S, I dont like it anymore after 2 months of using, phone gets a lot of dust under back cover, screen is not that awesome as SONY says, it's not that ultra bright and colors are not that super. As for camera I'd say that my old XPERIA Arc took better pictures than this, also picture quality is not that good for 12MP. I really wouldnt buy that phone, I'd go for new Acro S.
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Hi, I dreamed of XPERIA S, I dont like it anymore after 2 months of using, phone gets a lot of dust under back cover, screen is not that awesome as SONY says, it's not that ultra bright and colors are not that super. As for camera I'd say that my old XPERIA Arc took better pictures than this, also picture quality is not that good for 12MP. I really wouldnt buy that phone, I'd go for new Acro S.
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-gets a lot of dust under back cover: use case... trust me, case will make SXS sexier..
-screen is not that awesome as SONY says: there are three types of SXS's screens. see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803723 for me it's really good. i dont why that Sony made those differences.
- As for camera I'd say that my old XPERIA Arc took better pictures than this, also picture quality is not that good for 12MP: try another camera app. i found that LG Camera takes better picture. and no! bigger megapixels dont make it better quality, it's the lens that all count for quality.and i found out that SXS's lens is very good. especially in outdoor (enough lightning). and with no enough lightning (which i havent found any phone that make good quality photo in low lightning), Photoshop will do the trick.
As title.
Have a look at video.
Pressure marks on screen.
Second Z ultra thats doing this. First one I had right fun and games with a certain repairer.
Here it is. Do I live with it or send it back?
Thanks for your time ladies and gents.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eLoJhiefOo
Hmmm, it's an LCD panel, so it'll do that if you give it a hard press (like your PC monitor and TV), but that's not normal, no. The Ultra's panel is so-called "zero gap", which means that the glass and LCD panel are fused together making it one piece, and not two. That's how they've made it so thin. The glass is also very thin (Dragontrail), so that combination will have some consequences. BUT this doesn't look normal. You're not even tapping hard, so that looks like a defect. I get it too if I press hard, and I mean really hard.
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Hmmm, it's an LCD panel, so it'll do that if you give it a hard press (like your PC monitor and TV), but that's not normal, no. The Ultra's panel is so-called "zero gap", which means that the glass and LCD panel are fused together making it one piece, and not two. That's how they've made it so thin. The glass is also very thin (Dragontrail), so that combination will have some consequences. BUT this doesn't look normal. You're not even tapping hard, so that looks like a defect. I get it too if I press hard, and I mean really hard.
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My first Ultra was like this but in a different place on the screen. But this one I only just got it out the box and it was doing it.
Getting a bit sick of it to be honest. I love the Z Ultra but I`m wondering if I`ll get a good one!
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My first Ultra was like this but in a different place on the screen. But this one I only just got it out the box and it was doing it.
Getting a bit sick of it to be honest. I love the Z Ultra but I`m wondering if I`ll get a good one!
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Yeah, that's understandable. I would probably have swapped it again if it's something you notice under regular usage, or just go with a different device altogether.
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Yeah, that's understandable. I would probably have swapped it again if it's something you notice under regular usage, or just go with a different device altogether.
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One more chance to get a good one. Real shame as the Ultra is a fantastic phone. If it wasn`t under warranty I would have stripped it and investigated for myself. Still, never mind.
Would like to hear from anyone else who has had a similar problem.
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One more chance to get a good one. Real shame as the Ultra is a fantastic phone. If it wasn`t under warranty I would have stripped it and investigated for myself. Still, never mind.
Would like to hear from anyone else who has had a similar problem.
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I had a look at both of mine the other day, one does this on the left side of the screen if I press too hard, the other doesn't seem to do it at all. A symptom of too thin glass/ts/panel and too big?
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I had a look at both of mine the other day, one does this on the left side of the screen if I press too hard, the other doesn't seem to do it at all. A symptom of too thin glass/ts/panel and too big?
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I think so. But it shouldn`t happen. But then again, the technology was cutting edge. Maybe the Z2 Ultra won`t have these problems.
I have OCD and it really bothers me. Too picky I know but would like it right. I haven`t lost hope with Sony products at all, just think that with something cutting edge there will be flaws...
Here's a light review of the phone from Clove:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbFeUoVyT9Q&feature=youtu.be
Preorders up today as well.
Unboxing vid. Looks like they went with a nicer packaging this time.
VS. an iPhone 6 vid
VS. the Z5 Compact vid
i have bought yesterday the white x compact. unfortunately its a bit larger than the z3c. well im a bit disappointed but not because of the sd 650. the performance is quite good. its definately responsive and quick for a compact. but the bezel on the bottom is bigger than at the top. looks like a design fail. vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept. maybe for some people a minor thing but for me when i got used to my z3c this not ok. the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap. dust and dirt wil again find a nice place there. this was the reason why i have replaced my white z3c with a black one after the motherboard was dead on the white one. it seems sony has not learned from their mistakes. fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced but works very well. on the back side there you have gaps on top and bottom. i really do not understand sony. this phone costs 450€ and it seems they have no QA before packaging. camerawise i can see some improvements. focus is much faster than z3c. but the camera quality nowhere comparable to a galaxy s7. its ok but not that i would say wow. front cam is better than z3c. no softskin blur effect more but when it gets dark the front cam is not very good. generally i was expecting more from sonys camera system.
the best thing at this phone is the display. the black values and color reproduction is very good. looks like amoled but is probably a very good ips. but i think its displaying to much red. adjusting whitebalance helps. generally much better than z3c. due to the 2D glass curves it seems that display is almost printed regardless the 720p.
but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
loudspeakers are a bit louder probably due to the lack of water resistance. they sound better.
the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
the biggest problem is that there are no smartphones at 4,6inch with good quality anymore. i was even thinking about iphone but no thanks. i dont want to be a slave of itunes and pay more than 750€ for a phone. SE is too small. z5c is overheating, bulky & too rectangle. A3 2016 is 4,7inch and therefor longer. could be ok. BUT it has no fuc*** notification LED. major fail by samsung as this is inacceptable in 2016. but generally the build quality by samsung has raised. the galaxy s7 in a size of 4,6inch would be perfect. im remembering the times with my galaxy s1. fantastic phone and it was undestroyable. well if you have any questions you can ask me until i have still the phone. currently im thinking of testing an s7. but i hate to to do strange things with my thumb just to be able to reach the back button on the bottom of the phone. the s4 mini was perfect size.
So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
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..vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept...
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i didn't realize that with swift key. but you are right. if you set to system vibration you have that issue. but me, i am using swift key where you can set you individual vibration duration and that works like a charm.
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the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap...
fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced...
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on my xxc the gaps are all the same size and nothing is deplaced.
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..but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
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can't confirm that too.
the 'p' works just fine. (swift key)
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the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
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i hope, root is just a question of time. i hope very soon. can't wait for it to make all my customisations i am used to.
i found a way posted here but its written so weird. i dont know if its reliable.
http://www.sadroid.com/root-sony-xperia-x-compact-5-minutes/
the individual vibration is the same. the often and quicker you are pressing a button the more the motor of the vibrator gets crazy. sound like a bee on Speed.
You must try to press the letter p probably from the right side. a bit through the curved glass. the galaxy s7 and z3 compact touchscreen is much more responsive and sensitive. for me it was often not reacting when i was not thinking to touch more precisely in the middle of the letter P. maybe a defect on my device but i think the whole touchscreen production will be affected by this. i have tested the Xperia X and it has the same behavior. i will have to test another device in store if this is the case there as well.
this website is untrusted. dont download anything from that. you will get a virus. nothing else. when a root is availbale someone will for sure post it here first. but i doubt that it will be soon. x compact has not the best specs. all the famous and talented devs have other phones currently. xxz0o was the person that developed a root for z3c after half a year i think.
ok. now i found the issue with the vibration. your duration seems to be set pretty long. i set it to 35ms and that works absolutely fine. but if you set it to f.e. 60ms you have that issue. but why would you like to have it that long?
i mean its obvious that it can be a prob. if your next press is in the range of the 60ms there is no other way for the phone to vibrate permanently. are other phones adjusting the vibration if you press faster than the setted duration?
but i am a slow writer. maybe i will never understand that problem. i just found that issue while pressing complete randomly on the keyboard. i could never write that fast.
jeah, as i thaught. the page is very weird. i would also only try a root from a page i know pretty good.
ohh. half a year? thats sad. but hope never dies.
i like the phone. maybe there are some others
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try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
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The S7 mini would be perfect, but it will never be created. The S7 is about the same size as the iPhone 6, so if any of your friends have one, just try using it and you'll quickly realize how much harder it is to reach the top of the phone with your thumb. I'm sticking with my Z3C for another year to see if anyone (not just Sony) releases a 4.5-4.7" flagship device. The XC just doesn't meet my expectations for an "upgrade".
Phone Arena review:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-X-Compact-Review_id4256
The AndroidCentral Review is up, one note the lack of a fingerprint scanner is US only, the rest of the world has the fingerprint scanner available!
http://m.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-x-compact
All of these first reviews to be released seem to be very shallow in depth. They don't go into any real analysis of the phone and use very general statements to describe the user experience. In fact, these read more like unboxings than actual reviews. There's a lot of talk about what the phone looks like, the specs it comes with, and way too much of it sounds like they're reading a press release. If I was in the market for a new device. I'd wait another month for real reviews to be released.
Android Authority review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uullDQFq5W0
I sure do not have those build quality issues. gaps?! display is dead flush, heck everything is. I am very impressed with the build quality, very sturdy. I do not have trouble with coming in from the right and typing 'p' either, but if you display is not flush it would probably influence it. I am more than sure you were unlucky and got a bad apple (heh). as for the key vibration issue; if you type faster than the vibration delay is set, you are of cause going to have it vibrate all the time while typing, odd btw that you guys was set to 60ms mine was set to 25ms as default.
Hey everyone, just wanted some feedback regarding an issue I began having this week with my X Compact.
Issue: The phone is not as responsive during the unlocking process as it once was. I used to simply swipe to unlock and the phone would immediately unlock with a simple swiping motion. Now, the phone requires a harder swipe before it unlocks.
Any ideas?