Hi @all...
I never thought rooting the phone (to get the CM9 nightlies) was such a complicated ordeal. I've no clue how much time I spent reading threads and evaluating all the possible ways to root.
I want to avoid increasing the flash counter by all means as I still have one year of warranty left... just to be on the safe side. Unfortunately I already have Android 2.3.6 (kernel 2.6.35.7-...LA4) on the phone, so from what I was able to figure out on my own, this means SuperOneClick or in general zergRushExploit based roots won't work anymore since the leak has been fixed. I could flash an insecure kernel but some people say that in general everything flashed through Odin will increase the flash counter and others say, that flashing an insecure kernel won't do anything to the counter (the whole idea would be kinda pointless if it didn't imho). Also there is the talk of a newer bootloader which will prevent resetting the counter. So much information to digest...
So, I would really like to ask for some friendly help. Is there any way to root the i9100 without increasing the flash counter that will still work with my current firmware and that I can use as a stepping stone to flash the CM9 nightlies? Or some alternative I am not seeing? (except for staying on stock)
Thanks a lot for helping me out in advance...
matthew.
Zergrush 4 (Doomlord) works on KL1 2.3.6 - I'm on it.
No "counter" issues
Also if you do increase your counter there is triangle away app which resets it to 0 without a jig.
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Get a jig...
It costs only a dollars or so!!!
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What you can do is:
go to the cm9 user discussion and flash the recommended bootloader
download the clockwork mod recovery from the rom manager website, gapps and latest cm nightly then place it on your external SD card and not the internal
Using stock recovery navigate to the clockwork recovery zip and apply
It will bring up clockwork mod recovery
Do a factory reset...then you can wipe system/data/cache partition from mounts and storage but its optional (I did this because I just wanted a super clean install)
Install the nightly and gapps
you have succesfuly installed CM9
Enjoy
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koolshubh said:
Get a jig...
It costs only a dollars or so!!!
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A jig won't work on 2.3.6 onwards..
And just remember triangle away app only works on ics...
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First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@LenAsh: If KL1 is your kernel build version, you are actually on a older kernel. If it is your firmware version, you are newer though (KI4 here). The reason why I am pointing this out is that I have read in both developer threads, that with LA4 kernels and/or Android >= 2.3.6, the exploits used won't work. But again, there were also people reporting otherwise. Could you maybe clearify what exact versions you are on, please?
@st3chn0: Hm, won't flashing the bootloader also increase the dreaded flash counter because it is done through Odin?
@Li4m79: I know. What I haven't figured out so far (and maybe you can help me out on this one): Is the requirement an "ICS bootloader" or really ICS? So if I flash CM9 from my GB stock and keep the bootloader as is, will I still be able to use the Triangle Away app?
So long,
matthias
2.3.6 - in my sig
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2.3.6 - in my sig
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Ok, that I got the first time. But it is just part of the story. Firmware and kernel version would be nice to know. Thanks.
BinaryKhaos said:
First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@st3chn0: Hm, won't flashing the bootloader also increase the dreaded flash counter because it is done through Odin?
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Flashing just the bootloader wont do anything to the bootloader since its the samsung official bootloader... only things such as custom kernels etc (not verified by samsung themselves) will increase the counter
BinaryKhaos said:
First of all, thanks @all for your help.
@Li4m79: I know. What I haven't figured out so far (and maybe you can help me out on this one): Is the requirement an "ICS bootloader" or really ICS? So if I flash CM9 from my GB stock and keep the bootloader as is, will I still be able to use the Triangle Away app?
So long,
matthias
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Not sure mate... but if you are flashing cm9 why keep the boot loader? ... just flash cm9 and then use triangle away...
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Hello, I hope it's okay to resurrect this for a related question.
I've got my SGSII (I9100) only a couple of days ago, but coming from another android (which is nowadays lowend: I5800) which was always rooted I couldn't stay un-rooted for long. I've rooted using su/busybox injection via temporary CWM, as that obviously doesn't increase flash count (and consequently doesn't cause the yellow triangle).
I'm a bit worried about possibly needing warranty at some point, when the phone is in a state where I can't use it anymore to use "triangle away" (like display hardware issues, whatever) but Samsung can read the flash counter (possibly denying warranty).
So on to my actual question: I tried to find some clear information about what exactly causes the flash counter to increase and/or causes the yellow triangle. There isn't any sticky about it (in any of the sticky thread collections), so could someone clarify that for me?
My phone already shipped with ICS, I would conclude that I already have one of the new bootloaders that can no longer be reset using a jig (unless I flash an old one just for this, obviously).
I've read the only operation that can cause triangcle/counter increase is flashing a kernel (and rom with a kernel) in download mode (Odin) and that Samsungs own (unmodified) kernels are always OK to flash. Correct so far?
Concluding from that, it would mean that any nandroid restore operation would also be safe (for returning to some custom rom after testing/disliking a different one). Just like applying and update.zip (including things like flashing a rom this way). Still correct, I hope?
I really wish there was a sticky explaining this in detail, not just the existence of the counter/triangle and that it's possible to get rid of it, but not how to avoid getting it in the first place.
You can use for ics triangle away app and for GB u can use the one click root
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For my case when i needed to flash GB i upgraded the os to ICS and rooted the ICS then i installed odin for mobile and then i flashed the GB again with ODIN from my mobile and i already reset my counters with triangle away in the 1st step try this one it will make u happy lol
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You can use for ics triangle away app and for GB u can use the one click root
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Thanks for the reply, but I already know that. It will most likely be no problem to reset, but writing to the bootloader always entails a certain risk (of hard brick), however slim. This is also clearly stated in the "triangle away" description and forum thread.
Since the knowledge of what exactly increments the counter is surely out there, I'd just like to avoid doing those things in the first place.
Can you confirm/deny my statements above? Like about odin/update.zip and so on?
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Thanks for the reply, but I already know that. It will most likely be no problem to reset, but writing to the bootloader always entails a certain risk (of hard brick), however slim. This is also clearly stated in the "triangle away" description and forum thread.
Since the knowledge of what exactly increments the counter is surely out there, I'd just like to avoid doing those things in the first place.
Can you confirm/deny my statements above? Like about odin/update.zip and so on?
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Dear,
I know its risky but am using android since its early beging and never encounter a brick for my galaxy s2 i always use odin and triangle away and i dont have any issues believe me if you are having any issue in solving a little problem like this dont go deeper as u'll not feel the happiness of solving it due to your fears .. if i were you and am afraid i wont try .
Wish you the best
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Dear,
I know its risky but am using android since its early beging and never encounter a brick for my galaxy s2 i always use odin and triangle away and i dont have any issues believe me if you are having any issue in solving a little problem like this dont go deeper as u'll not feel the happiness of solving it due to your fears .. if i were you and am afraid i wont try .
Wish you the best
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You are completely missing my point. I'd have to clear the counter after every flash that increased it, as I can't guarantee my phone would be in a state where I can do it the moment I do need the warranty. I know it's quite unlikely that something will go wrong and the operation results in a brick.
But why risk even that, if it can easily be avoided? I just need to know what exactly will and what will not increase the counter. Hence my skating for exactly that information.
Swyped on my Galaxy S2
you know i have rooted my phone more times than i can remember, versions of GB, ICS and now i use F1 Nexus ROM and i have always been able to get rid of the yellow triangle and reset the counter without any problems.
it is a jig solution, so i have 1 of those, then i have a an old bootloader file that is called 'oldbootloader' !!! thing is i dont remember where i got it from. anyway, every time after having rooted the phone, i just flash the oldbootloader in Odin PDA box, turn off the phone, plug in the jig and counter is reset, triangle gone. so far it has never failed.
Its very simple, you should have known this......
Flashing a non Samsung kernel / in secure kernel will do that.
Still there are ways you can flash in secure kernel without counter go up, but you have to be rooted and using mobile Odin.
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You are completely missing my point. I'd have to clear the counter after every flash that increased it, as I can't guarantee my phone would be in a state where I can do it the moment I do need the warranty. I know it's quite unlikely that something will go wrong and the operation results in a brick.
But why risk even that, if it can easily be avoided? I just need to know what exactly will and what will not increase the counter. Hence my skating for exactly that information.
Swyped on my Galaxy S2
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Any custom rom will increase your counter any root like CF root will increase ur counter if you are using a new non stock kernal it will increase the same .. the idea is if you reset the counter one time and then installed mobile odin app on your phone you want have any increase in the counter your whole life and also you will not lose the root and you can flash what ever you want you will not lose the warranty
And they will not able to find out that you one used a custom ROM i already sent my device to the warranty and they mentioned that i'm a noob and am treating the device in a decent way lol
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If you use your odin while flashing a stock os like xxlph it will increase nothing if you used a stock kernel nothing will happened but if you do so you will lose your root and if you lost your root and u wants to get it back it can increase except if you flashed the root kernel from the device with odin mobile or CWM .. forgot to tell also that if you installed any thing with CWM it will not affect your counter
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I have to return my phone back to best buy for a return, what all do I have to do? I'm on cognition x2. I want to get rid of the yellow triangle and return to UN rooted stock ROM...
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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ceo.mtcl said:
I have to return my phone back to best buy for a return, what all do I have to do? I'm on cognition x2. I want to get rid of the yellow triangle and return to UN rooted stock ROM...
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Would be nice for someone to post up a tutorial for this. Im thinking about getting my s2 replaced as battery life is not so great. I think mine is defective. Today i only got 9hrs minimal usage. Im on stock+root+cwm
You will need the jig to reset the counter and you will need a stock ROM to flash back to stock. Is stock ROM available yet? Those are the two things I need at hand before doing any rooting or flashing custom ROMs.
I have the jig ordered but has yet to see a stock ROM posted.
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Is is not possible to do it without a jig? Can I not flash the stock kernel and get rid of the yellow triangle?
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Follow Entropy's thread in the Dev section about returning to stock. The exclamation point will disappear.
Here's the thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
[Edit] Thanks for the clarification rquinn19
Kadin said:
Follow Entropy's thread in the Dev section about returning to stock. It WILL keep it rooted but the exclamation point will disappear. Unless the rep knows to look in Applications for Superuser, there's no other indication of it being rooted to the average user...
Here's the thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
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he also put up an untouched, unrooted version now.
edit: dont listen to the post about the jig being needed.
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he also put up an untouched, unrooted version now.
edit: dont listen to the post about the jig being needed.
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i just ordered mine on ebay. i guess there will be a time im gonna have to use it anyways (unbricking etc)
Just tell Best Buy that you have no idea why there is a yellow triangle there.. >_>
There is a small (very small) chance some warranty service types might give you grief about the custom binary count being non-zero.
However if you're just plain returning the device to an AT&T store, the device will be returned and your money back before the device reaches Samsung and they pull the counter (if they even bother to do so.)
So just doing the Return to Stock from my thread should do the trick in almost all cases.
Now in my case... If I ever have problems I'm using a jig, my custom binary count is over 40 now.
i actually just want to return my s2 for an exchange to a new s2. i think i got a bad s2, battery just not good on mine.
regarding OP question...
here is ENTROPY's answer on his other thread.
simpl3lang said:
if i want to return to complete stock, all i have to do is odin the "Kernel + non-rooted system package" under PDA plus the MODEM under phone? if the MODEM was never messed with (like accidently installing a international version rom), we dont have to odin the MODEM right? or its a total must?
oh and thanks a bunch for all the hard work Entropy!!!!!
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Entropy512 said:
You may have to enter 3e recovery and wipe after you return to stock, but other than that:
Just odin the kernel + non-rooted system.
And yes, if you never touched the modem, no need to flash it. If you're returning to stock to return, I would:
Flash kernel + nonrooted system
Enter recovery and wipe (same method for entering CWM from poweroff, but with stock kernels you wind up in 3e)
Check to make sure your baseband is UCKH7 in Settings->About Phone. If it isn't, flash the modem.
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simpl3lang said:
i actually just want to return my s2 for an exchange to a new s2. i think i got a bad s2, battery just not good on mine.
regarding OP question...
here is ENTROPY's answer on his other thread.
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Good to know. I got mine at Best Buy, too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313659
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BTW I don't think removing the Yellow Exclamation point resets the counter. If they know how to look for that, they can still see that you flashed the phone. The Jig removes the exclamation mark AND resets the counter to 0. So, all you have to do at that point is flash the stock rom, insert jig, and phone was as if you didn't tamper with it at all.
At least that's I hope the jig can do, cause why did I spend $8!!!???
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BTW I don't think removing the Yellow Exclamation point resets the counter. If they know how to look for that, they can still see that you flashed the phone. The Jig removes the exclamation mark AND resets the counter to 0. So, all you have to do at that point is flash the stock rom, insert jig, and phone was as if you didn't tamper with it at all.
At least that's I hope the jig can do, cause why did I spend $8!!!???
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Yes, this has been reported in the i9100 forums with regard to the International version of the SGS II. Developers in this forum say otherwise. I havn't seen any posts proving this one way or the other. I havn't even seen any screen shots of the counter being anything other than "no".
Pretty much everyone agrees that the jig resets both. But it is also reported that bootloaders installed with the leaked versions of the stock rom do not allow the warning to be cleared or the counter to be reset with the jig.
I'd like to see some proof on these issues, or at least reports of first hand experience that gives us some verification on these issues.
Hey guys
I've never modded my phone at all when it comes to custom ROM's, etc. My friend told me today that he flashed a CM9 ICS nightly build and it sparked some interest in me.
I read that to get the CM9 ROM you need to have CWM installed on your phone. Is that necessary? If so, why?
I also read that it will void my phones warranty if I install CWM...now obviously nothing is "suppose" to go wrong with the phone while doing this process and I heard that if the phone is soft bricked it can be recovered with nvflash (is this true?).
Finally, is there anything stopping me from flashing a stock bootloader (is that what CWM is?) onto the phone and then a stock ROM, allowing me to do a return on the phone without them knowing?
I'm completely new to this and this whole forum is so confusing and the only real easy instructions I found were on the CM9 site.
Thanks guys,
Elliott
EDIT: I also just saw on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uK-k3KfY5c
He used some sort of USB dongle at the end for something...what did it do?
Everything you need and more in the relevant thread. With such basic questions and the apparent lack of ability to search, read and digest information, you would be wiser to stick to stock, official ROMs though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419102
Thanks but of course that did not answer any of my questions. I have already seen that and obviously you didn't read my post correctly. I am more interested in the warranty issues with doing this...and if it's possible to comletely revert everything to the point where they can't tell what was done with the phone...I have searched around.
What issues do you think you'll run into that will warrant you sending the phone in? Im on my second samsung phone and they've been flawless, warranty be damned, flash away.
CWM "clockworkmod" is a recovery mode replacement for the stock SGS2.
It's used to do a number of things, one of which is to flash items to the device such as full roms or kernels. I'll let you read up on the rest. Without the need to have your device connected to a pc.
Flashing anything unofficial is bound to void your warranty whether via CWM or Odin etc.
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working. A simple flash of the older one fixes the issue and doesn't appear to affect the device usage.
There are some great articles on xda to read about flashing etc. Worth a look.
Hope this helps.
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peachpuff said:
What issues do you think you'll run into that will warrant you sending the phone in? Im on my second samsung phone and they've been flawless, warranty be damned, flash away.
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Well I'm not planning on the phone having any issues...but you never know what could happen...When I first got my SGS2 the home button stopped working within 24 hours and I had to go back and get another one...
I'm just saying anything could happen...ex: buttons breaking, etc.
aceofclubs said:
CWM "clockworkmod" is a recovery mode replacement for the stock SGS2.
It's used to do a number of things, one of which is to flash items to the device such as full roms or kernels. I'll let you read up on the rest. Without the need to have your device connected to a pc.
Flashing anything unofficial is bound to void your warranty whether via CWM or Odin etc.
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working. A simple flash of the older one fixes the issue and doesn't appear to affect the device usage.
There are some great articles on xda to read about flashing etc. Worth a look.
Hope this helps.
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Hey thanks for posting.
So you're saying that if I flash CWM, and then need to return the phone for whatever reason, I can install the original Samsung recovery tool that was there prior to installing CWM? Is that what you mean by "a simple flash of the older one..."?
Basically, if I ever need to return the phone, can I make it reset 100% original so that even if they knew how to check for stuff like CM9 and CWM, they wouldn't be able to find out that it was ever installed?
And when Samsung releases their official firmware and I decide I want to flash to that one, can I still use it? I'm guessing I could just flash it normally using CWM, but what if I wanted to go back to 100% original and update from there?
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Thanks but of course that did not answer any of my questions. I have already seen that and obviously you didn't read my post correctly.
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Well that kind of attitude just irks me.
Unless I lack the ability to count, you asked a total of five questions, all of which are answered in that thread and countless others around this forum.
Anyway, your apparent main concern has to do with wanting to commit fraud. If you're okay with that, keep going. I guess since you're happy to break forum rules (rule #1), why not try and fudge a warranty claim?
Yes you can return your device to completely Telco/carrier stock.
If you want to do it...
Make a CWM backup.
Backup everything to pc from internal SD. A simple copy will do.
Use CWM to format internal SD.
Boot into download mode and flash Telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin.
Use jig to reset flash counter.
Use stock recovery to wipe device.
This should be as it was when you pulled it out of the box on day one.
When you get it back use cfroot kernel to root via Odin.
Copy SD card backup from pc to SD.
Restore CWM backup.
Should now be as it was before resetting to stock. Except maybe the modem if you like a different one from Telco/carrier stock.
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Yes you can return your device to completely Telco/carrier stock.
If you want to do it...
Make a CWM backup.
Backup everything to pc from internal SD. A simple copy will do.
Use CWM to format internal SD.
Boot into download mode and flash Telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin.
Use jig to reset flash counter.
Use stock recovery to wipe device.
This should be as it was when you pulled it out of the box on day one.
When you get it back use cfroot kernel to root via Odin.
Copy SD card backup from pc to SD.
Restore CWM backup.
Should now be as it was before resetting to stock. Except maybe the modem if you like a different one from Telco/carrier stock.
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Excellent thanks for your help!
So as soon as I boot into download mode and flash telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin, will CWM be erased? Also, what about what this gentleman said?
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working.
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What if I have the updated bootloader?
Yes CWM is removed by flashing official firmware so original recovery from then.
If jig doesn't work use Odin to flash the old bootloader. It definitely will work then.
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Yes CWM is removed by flashing official firmware so original recovery from then.
If jig doesn't work use Odin to flash the old bootloader. It definitely will work then.
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Great thanks for all your help.
Going here to see the stock firmware (I guess bootloader is the same thing?), and scrolling down to the "Bell" section, there are two items listed there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
UGKG2: http://www.multiupload.com/WHKOJ8A5FG
Firmware info: PDA: UGKG2 Phone: UGKG2 CSC: BMCKG2
UGKG2 Stock Kernel:http://www.multiupload.com/43QUKBBK47
Password is: [email protected]
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What's the difference between the two?
The first link has the entire rom, the 2nd has just the kernel. However...
These links have been dead for a while now, so you'll need to head over to Samfirmware.com & search for the firmware you need. Follow whatever instructions they have for flashing firmware downloaded from their site.
Starholdest said:
Great thanks for all your help.
Going here to see the stock firmware (I guess bootloader is the same thing?), and scrolling down to the "Bell" section, there are two items listed there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
What's the difference between the two?
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Thanks. And what is the difference between just the kernel and the whole thing? Is kernel just another word for bootloader? I looked up the terms briefly...
Also, samfirmware.com doesn't have the one I have...is there another source or something?
The rom has stuff like themes, fonts, and other stuff (nuts & bolts) the kernel is like the engine (controls stuff like WiFi, controls everything you can do as root, etc). The package containing the whole rom also has the kernel in it.
No idea. Do a Google search. Alternatively, you can get the latest firmware available for your country/carrier (which may or may not be the same as the one you're looking for, depending on whether the carrier has updated firmware since the one you're looking for was released) with the PC version of Checkfus (do a search for it on here Google).
Edit to add - A better analogy for rom/kernel. Think of your phone as a car. The kernel is the engine, the rom is everything else/the car itself.
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Thanks. And what is the difference between just the kernel and the whole thing?
Also, samfirmware.com doesn't have the one I have...is there another source or something?
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Bootloader etc.
Starholdest said:
Excellent thanks for your help!
So as soon as I boot into download mode and flash telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin, will CWM be erased? Also, what about what this gentleman said?
What if I have the updated bootloader?
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I think everyone has cleared everything else for you, so I'll talk about the jig! Firstly you most likely have the new bootloader so your flash counter will still be on, therefore your warranty will still be void. LUCKILY there's an app called TriangleAway (made my Chainfire) which you can find with a simple search, this will let you reset your flash counter and get rid of the yellow triangle as long as you're running a rooted ICS ROM (like CM9) and you can then flash back to stock and all traces of any root will be gone. There is a warning that the app can brick your phone but through my many uses of it, it has never happened and no-one has reported any brick.
Cool thanks for your help!
Hi, I have downloaded some firmwares to my Samsung galaxy s2. The last firmware I put on was Official I thought but in download mode where is says "Curent Binary" it says custom. How do I get that back to official samsung? Is there a way through kies, like with iPhone where itunes can reinstall the os?
Also does a firmware that is vodafone branded be put on a handset that is on the three network? Would it affect the signal?
Thanks
Get a jig from eBay. If you find the jig doesn't work, flash the 'old' bootloader from here. Yes you can flash Vodafone branded firmware on a phone that uses 3's network. No, it shouldn't affect the signal. These things are dependent on your modem, and most roms don't replace your existing modem.
I flashed using a firmware from this site. http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=-1#modelsa and it returned it to the Samsung Official. Everything is back to standard.
MistahBungle said:
Get a jig from eBay. If you find the jig doesn't work, flash the 'old' bootloader from here. Yes you can flash Vodafone branded firmware on a phone that uses 3's network. No, it shouldn't affect the signal. These things are dependent on your modem, and most roms don't replace your existing modem.
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Is flashing the old bootloader safe on a custom ROM? Even if it's an AOKP ROM? Cheers.
Yep.
However, some roms may not boot with the old bootloader (In saying that, I'm running it with CM9, but I didn't muck around with stock versions of ICS beforehand which might have changed it to a BL which doesn't work with CM9). If in doubt, ask the developer of the custom rom you're using if it works OK with the old bootloader (I presume you want to get rid of the boot triangle ?).
Obviously you run a very small risk of bricking your phone every time you flash anything, and you only flash/mess with bootloaders when you have a specific reason for same.
Having to send your phone to Samsung/your carrier for warranty service is one of those reasons, and if you've gone back to stock & your jig won't work, flashing the old bootloader is a simple no mucking around way of getting it done.
JoshS2 said:
Is flashing the old bootloader safe on a custom ROM? Even if it's an AOKP ROM? Cheers.
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MistahBungle said:
Yep.
However, some roms may not boot with the old bootloader (In saying that, I'm running it with CM9, but I didn't muck around with stock versions of ICS beforehand which might have changed it to a BL which doesn't work with CM9). If in doubt, ask the developer of the custom rom you're using if it works OK with the old bootloader (I presume you want to get rid of the boot triangle ?).
Obviously you run a very small risk of bricking your phone every time you flash anything, and you only flash/mess with bootloaders when you have a specific reason for same.
Having to send your phone to Samsung/your carrier for warranty service is one of those reasons, and if you've gone back to stock & your jig won't work, flashing the old bootloader is a simple no mucking around way of getting it done.
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I just got my phone back from repair and they upgraded it to the latest version of ICS with the ICS Bootloader. I've flashed Hydrogen-ICS and I've got the yellow triangle, obviously the USB jig won't sort it because of the bootloader. There's no disadvantage to having the triangle other than if I need to send it back under warranty is there? I think I might just leave it and sort it if the time comes.
Ahhhh OK. Gotcha
No, the triangle is only a 'cosmetic' thing. You could probably flash the old bootloader, get rid of the triangle, flash the new bootloader, and be on your merry way. But if it doesn't bother you & you've got Hydrogen running the way you want & everything is hunky dory otherwise, there's no need to do it
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I just got my phone back from repair and they upgraded it to the latest version of ICS with the ICS Bootloader. I've flashed Hydrogen-ICS and I've got the yellow triangle, obviously the USB jig won't sort it because of the bootloader. There's no disadvantage to having the triangle other than if I need to send it back under warranty is there? I think I might just leave it and sort it if the time comes.
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Ahhhh OK. Gotcha
No, the triangle is only a 'cosmetic' thing. You could probably flash the old bootloader, get rid of the triangle, flash the new bootloader, and be on your merry way. But if it doesn't bother you & you've got Hydrogen running the way you want & everything is hunky dory otherwise, there's no need to do it
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Ah right, I think I will just leave it for now as it doesn't really bother me! Thanks!
When i flashed back the triangle was gone and i used the branded rom so it has the three network boot logo again just like the day i pulled it out the box all the same apps and it worked like normal in kies i even had a successful update in kies. Though it took some work didnt reconize the device after a good 30mins of pluging and pulling and restarting. I also found some apps can stop kies working apparently, ones from market not on pc. And i had a custome 2.3.6. I just fancied having back to normal till i get bored again.
man you guys need to learn........... ics bootloader use triangle away, is that simple.
atifsh said:
man you guys need to learn........... ics bootloader use triangle away, is that simple.
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I don't understand what you mean by that? Mine doesn't?
arranstobbs said:
I don't understand what you mean by that? Mine doesn't?
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"Triangle Away" is an app by Chainfire on the Play Store. Costs a couple bucks, but you don't have to flash an old bootloader and/or wait for a USB jig to get to you, which is your other option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
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Forgot about the XDA exclusive that's free. But seeing all the good work Chainfire does, when I finally do go to ICS, I'll buy it on the Play Store to throw him a couple bucks. He deserves it.
You can avoid the counter increase, simply flash your archives via CWM instead of doing it via Odin. It won't update the counter, so the triangle won't appear
Joravis said:
You can avoid the counter increase, simply flash your archives via CWM instead of doing it via Odin. It won't update the counter, so the triangle won't appear
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wow someone need to fix his knowledge for this!
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tutorial kinda................ thats how i run
1: flashed cwm (attached) via odin
2: wiped everything, including system
3: flashed stock ICS via odin
4: rooted via cf-root
5: used triangle away to reset counter and triangle
6: install mobile odin
7: flashed the cwm kernel extracted from the same and flashed using mobile odin [zimage]
8: now i have cwm without counter and triangle.
9: flashed cm9 using cwm
now i can flash whatever rom via cwm, without counter issue.
you want to flash kernel use mobileodin again and you wont update counter.
hope this helps.
EDiT: odin is 99.9% for stock ROM's thus will not raise counter. only when you flash cwm for the first time with odin you get counter + triangle.
hope this helps.
Hi all.
My SGS2 needs to be sent in for repairs in the imminent future, and in preparation I unrooted my phone and flashed a Stock ICS build (my carrier is Optus, Australia). Before this I was running a few different GB roms. When I boot my phone I do not get the yellow triangle (I assume this is because I am running official Samsung firmware), but if I put the phone into download mode, it still shows the 8 custom flashes I did earlier.
My real question is will Chainfire's Triangle Away app remove the binary count even if the triangle isn't there?
And a better question would be, would having official firmware be enough to still claim warranty, or would I need to have both official firmware and a "0" custom flash count?
Thanks for any help!
I believe Samsung may throw a stink about the counter, even if you are on stock/official firmware. This counter would imply that you have voided your warranty previous to the current state of the phone and it's OS
To be safe I would use the Triangle away app
EDIT: Yes, the app does reset the flash counter. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
Its always safe to clear the counter before returning it for service. yes the triangle away app will clear the counter with/without triangle.
download it for free from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
sdardz said:
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
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You are correct. Root the phone first, use the app, then unroot.
Thanks!
So it will still think it's Samsung official after that process?
You'll need a rooted ICS firmware already on your phone.
Check the Triangle Away forum to ensure its working with your firmware version.
Flash Triangle Away, this will remove Yellow Triangle and reset Custom Counter to 0.
Flash official unrooted firmware using Odin, this wont increase your Custom Counter as its official. Use a firmware thats specific to your region.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Job done.
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Thanks! This forum is full of amazing help.
So theoretically I could follow those steps then flash the stock ROM a thousand times and the flash counter would remain at 0?
If it makes you feel any better I went to Optus 3 weeks ago with a phone that wouldn't turn on with ICS for another region with root and they fixed it.
I think my USB jig cleared the counter to 0 though. I couldn't connect my phone to dl mode or anything
The app removes the triangle as well as the counter
Yeah I tried using the jig a while ago but I think I have the newer bootloader, so it didn't do anything, which was very disappointing.
I'd just hate to take it in then have them tell me to get bent because I rom'ed it.
Ok so let me know if theres a problem with my process.
I'm using ICS and the kernel is XWLP4.
There was no LP4 in Chainfires thread but I read that I could use the next closest one. So I should flash something like "CF-Root-SGS2_XW_O2U_LP3-v5.4-CWM5.zip" and then triangle away then use the Optus stock ICS?
UPDAT: I tried this method and it worked perfectly! Thanks so much to everyone who helped.
has worked like a charm for me everytime i put stock firmwares on my phone
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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Or just flash the old bootloader.
Please help me root my GS2.
Ive tried various guides on here and CANNOT achieve root at all, ive tried zergrush, no joy, superoneclick, no joy, i dont want to flash a cfroot yet, i want to get root so i can flash the kernel cfroot from mobile odin so i dont increase my binary counter, triangle away is not an option for me because it does not reset the counter at all.
So im locked to 3, stock ics, xwlp7, galaxy s2 i9100.
I wish to schieve root without counter increase and gain cwm in doing so, is there a way that i can do this, any help would be appreciated guys, im struggling.
If you have a microSD card, you can use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
If not, bite the bullet and flash a rooted kernel followed by http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114 if the counter bothers you so much. Contrary to your post, it does reset the counter.
Triangle away didn't worked because you were not rooted.
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atifsh said:
Triangle away didn't worked because you were not rooted.
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yep he is right, you have to flash a rooted kernal to get root working properly.
try this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399 the creator of this kernel is also creator of triangle away so it work perfectly (i also do have this kernel and it works like charm).
and yes by flashing this kernel your custom binary count will rise +1 but after root just buy triangle away and reset binary count.easy(if you broke then you have to live with that yellow triangle and +1 binary count).
cya......
graemeg said:
Please help me root my GS2.
Ive tried various guides on here and CANNOT achieve root at all, ive tried zergrush, no joy, superoneclick, no joy, i dont want to flash a cfroot yet, i want to get root so i can flash the kernel cfroot from mobile odin so i dont increase my binary counter, triangle away is not an option for me because it does not reset the counter at all.
So im locked to 3, stock ics, xwlp7, galaxy s2 i9100.
I wish to schieve root without counter increase and gain cwm in doing so, is there a way that i can do this, any help would be appreciated guys, im struggling.
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Go here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
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**SOLVED**
Hey fellas, all you that replied, THANKYOU.
I solved it with your help, and avoided a custom binary count.
I flashed a pre-rooted rom, followed by creating a firmware folder on my sd card and copying my stock rom over to the folder and cf root kernel.
Then i flashed cfroot through mobile odin, to get cwm
Then i ran cwm, flashed my stock firmware and kept the cfroot zimage kernel as my root, job done.
Ok so a lot of people would have done it an easier way and accepted the counter and triangle, but i really wanted to avoid that if i could because chainfire himself WARNS of the risks with triangle away, and i dont have a usb jig yet, awaiting its arrival.
So this is how i did it anyway, but without the assistance you all offered i was struggling, so again thankyou, this is why im on XDA, its the best place to be, the community spirit on here is awesome and each and every one of you is a credit to XDA, its a great place to be, cheers guys, now im on the lookout for apps and mods, i like to stay stock but some nice UI mods or something would be good, happy days.....
Graeme
Long winded way of doing such a simple task. Also entirely ignoring the advice given to you. Whatever.
oinkylicious said:
Long winded way of doing such a simple task. Also entirely ignoring the advice given to you. Whatever.
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Ok, whats that all about !!!!, i dont get it, i said thanks, i clicked thanks.
For the record, Whatever, i tried your methods, WITHOUT success, because frankly, the flashing cwm.zip post should be removed, its absolute nonsense and doesnt work at all, wont allow any access to the sd card and even mounting didnt work, so hence i had to look for alternate solutions, which, DIDNT involve flashing an insecure kernel through odin and INCREASING my binary count.
That was the whole objective, may not matter to you, but it did to me and probably a whole host of others.
But you still got thanked coz between your post and the others that replied it gave me good advice and after investigating further root issues i found a solution.
So again, thanks.
I have shown my gratitude and i appreciate your time by clicking thanks, theres plenty that dont despite helping.
graemeg said:
For the record, Whatever, i tried your methods, WITHOUT success, because frankly, the flashing cwm.zip post should be removed, its absolute nonsense and doesnt work at all, wont allow any access to the sd card and even mounting didnt work, so hence i had to look for alternate solutions, which, DIDNT involve flashing an insecure kernel through odin and INCREASING my binary count.
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CWM.zip is touch recovery only and isn't persistent. But it works like a standard CWM recovery should. Never had any problems when rooting this way. I then flash a permanent CWM from either Ktool, mobile odin or the CWM manager apk.
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Haha some people will learn the hard way, at least they learn, which is good for this community.
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CWM.zip is touch recovery only and isn't persistent. But it works like a standard CWM recovery should. Never had any problems when rooting this way. I then flash a permanent CWM from either Ktool, mobile odin or the CWM manager apk.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
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Yup, very well noted, and as for the other comment below yours, whats to learn??, this method didnt work for me, i flashed it, i accessed cwm, and it WOULD NOT allow me to flash the su zip whatsoever, it wouldnt mount my usb storage nor my sd card, so what else was i supposed to do.
Unfortunatley during my time on xda wading through posts and guides quite often you come across issues like this, when it works for one and not another, but regardless, i got root in the end and without adding to my counter, objective achieved.
Just to note, maybe its something about the security on 3 network phones, i dont know, ive tried chains unlock tool and that failed too, so i decided to pay for it to be unlocked and theyre computer couldnt generate a code either, puzzling considering the s2 has been around for quite a while now, because many others seem to have unlocked with no issue at all.