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So I really want a Android 3.x Tab. and I really don't want an iPad 1 or 2. So since the Galaxy Tab 10.1 16GB is $499 and got a good review and thought it would be great!
So....
Should I go pick one up or should i wait?
Way I see it it's a good buy if you want something now...
There are things that I know are coming but are probably not until early to mid next year and these are...
300+ DPI screen (much brighter and more battery efficient too!)
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Quad Cores with a decent GPU included (Tegra 2 GPU is meh)
I love the slim and lightness of the 10.1
I wont get another tablet until it has those features and is equally as light and thin and I know there wont be anything coming out this year that ticks all those boxes.
Also Galaxy Tab is unlocked and was the official Google dev tablet so you know you're going to get good support here on XDA
It's a great tab but Samsung can be pretty sluggish with bringing out updates and imho they've messed up with the 10.1/10.1v/GoogleIO 10.1 model confusion and appear to be more interested in generating promotional materials than supporting their user base.
The Samsung app suite has little or no publicly listed support for the 10.1 range - even though they have the apps on the devices (take a look at samsung apps, samsung drive, etc for an example of what devices they support).
I love my Samsung 10.1v - but if was buying again for the first time - I'd consider the Asus Transformer a little more. They've been a bit more proactive with pushing out updates.
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Also Galaxy Tab is unlocked and was the official Google dev tablet so you know you're going to get good support here on XDA
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I thought the Xoom was the only Google Experience Tablet? If Samsung pushes out Touchwiz doesn't that change the GT10.1 from the standard software?
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I thought the Xoom was the only Google Experience Tablet? If Samsung pushes out Touchwiz doesn't that change the GT10.1 from the standard software?
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I'm hoping the Touchwiz skin really is only skin deep and that we can switch back to stock Honeycomb without issues. I wouldn't be surprised if Google is twisting the manufacturer's arm to make this be the case.
TouchWiz isn't just a launcher - it's pretty pervasive.
It looks like at least some TouchWiz components will be needed just to get updates. Currently you need a Samsung account (part of the suite of apk's installed with TouchWiz) to update the firmware.
Not that TouchWiz is all bad. Once you remove many of the widgets from the Homescreens - it's fairly pleasant to use.
The most important aspect needed is restyling the theme & some perf enhancements then I think most people will be happy.
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I thought the Xoom was the only Google Experience Tablet? If Samsung pushes out Touchwiz doesn't that change the GT10.1 from the standard software?
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I suppose so... That still doesn't change that 2000 devopers got 10.1 tabs though haha
LevitateJay said:
There are things that I know are coming but are probably not until early to mid next year and these are...
300+ DPI screen (much brighter and more battery efficient too!)
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Quad Cores with a decent GPU included (Tegra 2 GPU is meh)
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FWIW, Tegra 3 is due out later this year, though I expect you are right that they probably won't be as thin/light as the Galaxy. Motorola and Asus are among the first ones due out with Tegra 3 tablets, and at least in the case of the Asus, I expect the form factor will be similar to the current device, since compatibility with the existing dock is expected.
Also Galaxy Tab is unlocked and was the official Google dev tablet so you know you're going to get good support here on XDA
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The initial ones were unlocked, but it appears that newer ones are starting to show up locked. Personally, I wouldn't expect better "XDA support" on the Galaxy vs. others.
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I suppose so... That still doesn't change that 2000 devopers got 10.1 tabs though haha
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True but keep in mind they were given out by Samsung not by Google.
The only thing I don't like about the 10.1 (and pretty much every other honeycomb tablet) is that they're all Tegra 2 and frankly... it stinks. It can't do 720p playback very well and the GPU "acceleration" is still quite choppy. I'm not sure why Samsung didn't just stick their Exynos into the tab but I suppose the drivers just aren't available in Honeycomb. It's a bit strange having a phone that's WAY more powerful even underclocked at 500mhz my Galaxy S2 still records and plays back 1080p fine. I can dump 1080p MKV files from my computer with no formatting onto the phone and it plays them back flawlessly while the tablet can't even play back 720p MKV's without problems.
The main thing that I want to use the tablet for is browsing on a bigger screen... which is alright but the browser is just not as smooth as "other" fruit flavored tablets. Also when not in landscape mode the thing just gets even more choppier. It feels like I'm beta testing Honeycomb for them...
I was also looking at the ASUS Eee Pad Transformer.
I have an ASUS Laptop and wondered how good the quality of the Eee pad is if anyone knows.
I returned mine. So for me, I'm going to wait. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 was pretty nice piece of hardware. Most of my complaints were with Android 3 though. I just don't think it's ready for primetime. I had way too much frustrating issues with it and too many app crashes.
For the $600 I spent on the 32GB model, I wanted something with more polished software. My $200 Nook Color performed better with Android 2.3 (CM7).
I'm going to wait for tablets with Android 4 to launch, and preferably something without a Tegra 2 processor.
Samsung makes a crazy number of phones, so I wouldn't be surprised if they have a new thin tablet later this year for Android 4 also.
Not sure where everyone's beef with Tegra 2 is coming from. From a raw processing power standpoint, the Tegra 2 is better than Exynos and only falls behind the newer OMAP 4.
Is everyone here running the 720p videos from the device? If so, what are the files encoded by? I want to try and see if I have the same results. I stream all kinds of videos through DLNA to my Tab 10.1 and I've only noticed choppy playback on some high definition AVI files - never really took the time to troubleshoot the issue.
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Not sure where everyone's beef with Tegra 2 is coming from. From a raw processing power standpoint, the Tegra 2 is better than Exynos and only falls behind the newer OMAP 4.
Is everyone here running the 720p videos from the device? If so, what are the files encoded by? I want to try and see if I have the same results. I stream all kinds of videos through DLNA to my Tab 10.1 and I've only noticed choppy playback on some high definition AVI files - never really took the time to troubleshoot the issue.
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Isn't part of the Tegra 2's problem it's lack of Advanced SIMD that everyone else seems to have?
The new TI OMAP 4 1.5GHz dual core and Nvidia Tegra 3 1.?GHz quad core both coming in Q3 got to be big performance improvements over the Tegra 2 that came out Q4 last year (feels older than that).
I'm quite confident that Samsung's TouchWiz will come with a much faster way of playing back videos. This was the case with the stock Galaxy S series of phones. They are all still the most capable phones of playing back DivX etc when running TouchWiz...
My guess is mid next year Samsung will release a equally thin and light tablet with their latest 300+ dpi screens and a quad core processor that will handle everything that honeycomb offers without a stutter... Can't wait for it... Until then I've got my slim light Tab 10.1 that does the job and works great with my Android phone and Google services
Yes, releasing a Tegra2 tablet now is pretty late. They had their shot with 10.1v but messed up nearly everything. And with Samsung support, this device won't see a shiny future. Despite all confusion Samsung doesn't say a damn word !
Then there is the missing sd slot and ports. We even got a worse 3MP cam while the 10.1v had a 8mp one. A step in the wrong direction.
Win8 beta is close (1-2 months), apple announced ipad3, tegra3 is coming too.
A massive change is going to happen until next year. Lots of arguments against the 10.1.
GT10.1 prices will drop big time soon. 300 bucks in ~3 months i guess.
Last week I was totally hyped but now it's getting easier to wait.
Still no release in EU. There must be some massive problems with that device.
I'm considering returning mine. There are a couple of little things that makes using the tablet as my main device a bit frustrating like moody text selection, keyboard disappearing randomly sometimes, choppy videos (was trying to stream Friday Night Lights on NBC's site, and it couldn't get through the first 10 mins), lack of honeycomb optimized apps, no Netflix, and even using Facebook thru the browser is quirky.
I have 2 more days to decide, and I'm looking into just waiting for the new Samsung Series 3 notebooks to come out also.
Hm, I checked the hits on xda. There are only 10k posts for the GT10.1 while the transformer has 45k.
Could it be low interest for this device?
I think it's more that the Asus has been out longer, and is also the most-sold Android Honeycomb tablet thus far.
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Isn't part of the Tegra 2's problem it's lack of Advanced SIMD that everyone else seems to have?
The new TI OMAP 4 1.5GHz dual core and Nvidia Tegra 3 1.?GHz quad core both coming in Q3 got to be big performance improvements over the Tegra 2 that came out Q4 last year (feels older than that).
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I did a quick wiki search on Advanced SIMD (I hadn't heard about it prior to you informing me ) and the technology looks more like it's applied to much slower ARM processors than the ones we find in tablets. Wikipedia specifically mentions acceleration for speech decoding and MP3 audio decoding at extremely slow speeds (15 MHz and below). Does this technology also apply to decoding videos, etc, at 1,000 MHz? I could see this possibly affecting something like playing MP3s while the device is in standby, but I don't know much about this technology.
When I use the Tab (and my 7" tab as well) I'm normally streaming video from TVersity on my PC to my tab via UPnPlay & Mobo video player (on my Tab 10.1) or AllShare on my 7" tab. I also watch flash videos (up to 720p - that's the highest res video I've tried). All work very well - there is some minor stuttering with the flash video from the stock browser, I would say it will drop a few frames once every 5 minutes.
I also do some filesharing over my network - such as transferring PDF files from my PC and viewing them on my Tab. I know that's not related to the video conversation - but that works pretty smoothly as well.
Hi,
Just watched presentation of upcoming Toshiba Tab and Iahve to say I fell in love again (as with GT 10.1 which dissapointed me with itd SoC).
AT200 will be equipped with Ti OMAP4 4430 (1,2 Ghz) chip - the one with Netflix HD certificate. Has microSD slot, micro USB and HDMI. It is just 7,7 mm thick and very light.
What do you think....if you thinking of getting GT10.1 in few days would that make you wait?
And one more thing... Video transcoding - is it coming to an end???
I just bought my tab 4 days ago, don't want to even think about this tablet, I would've gotten it but too late now :/
Specs is one thing. What's important is real life performance and if there's any other possible flaw. Gtab actually looks not bad, but the software performance bogged it down. I'd by the time the Toshiba tablet is released, icecream sandwich may be released or close to be released. So unless the performance of the Toshiba tab is another class higher than grab, I see no point thinking too much about it.
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Looks almost identical to the Gtab! same resolution display too.... Won't be long before Apple will be taking Toshiba to the courts over this!! (or maybe Samsung will!??)
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Serious_Beans said:
I just bought my tab 4 days ago, don't want to even think about this tablet, I would've gotten it but too late now :/
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I looked at the Engadget review and the tablet looked pretty slow to me, I might be wrong. I'm very happy with my P7510 running on a vanilla 3.1 Honeycomb (soon to run on PhantomHacker's 3.2 vanilla ROM) and I'm looking forward to see Ice Cream on it.
The thing is, we will never purchase a tablet if we wait for the next "big one" to come out. Technology changes so fast that is not worth to trouble yourself. Just enjoy the tablet and use it to death, I personally think that my Tab 10.1 is an excellent product.
Well, I am not waiting for the next big one but just for one that does not have Tegra2 inside, looks OK, has I/O's I want and 3G connectivity.
So, just to have something for now I bought iPad 1 3G few weeks ago. As it is very limited device I was waiting for it to get right price. $350 for new one on warranty is OK. Now I can wait till end of the year to get Excite or Holiday or TF2 or Xoom2.... Will see.
If you want to wait, an alternative would be the HP Touchpad for $99 (fire sale instead of $499). It runs on WebOS which is awesome and I'm pretty sure someone will make an Android ROM for it eventually. Don't expect a great quality build, though.
The Tosh looks very nice, another weapon in the Android armoury. I'm still very happy with my Samsung 16Gb Wifi.
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If you want to wait, an alternative would be the HP Touchpad for $99 (fire sale instead of $499). It runs on WebOS which is awesome and I'm pretty sure someone will make an Android ROM for it eventually. Don't expect a great quality build, though.
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It would be all true if folks like me could actually get it.
IMHO if you want (especially 3G) tablet now, good one, for reasonable price, just to keep you going till the one you really want is out iPad1 seems like a great deal.
Does most of the stuff Tegra 2 tablets do, has 3G and new one can still be found pretty cheap (half of the zoom price for example). And form me video capabilities all almost the same.
There will be always something new and better than what's available currently in the market. By the time Toshiba excite gets released to the market, even more better tablet with awesome specs will be shown at a new tech show taking place anywhere on this planet Earth.
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galtom said:
Hi,
Just watched presentation of upcoming Toshiba Tab and Iahve to say I fell in love again (as with GT 10.1 which dissapointed me with itd SoC).
AT200 will be equipped with Ti OMAP4 4430 (1,2 Ghz) chip - the one with Netflix HD certificate. Has microSD slot, micro USB and HDMI. It is just 7,7 mm thick and very light.
What do you think....if you thinking of getting GT10.1 in few days would that make you wait?
And one more thing... Video transcoding - is it coming to an end???
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I'm feeling exactly the same as you. The size and weight of the GT 10.1 was perfect but the poor video decoding performance of the Tegra 2 and lack of MicroSD card slot was a real let down. The AT200 seems like it will be perfect for me (assuming the OMAP proc is a lot better for video decoding). I just hope it comes out real soon to the UK market. If they delay it too long then I may be put off with official specs of ICS tablets.
It is the same SOC as in new Archos G9 series (like them but they look "cheap") and they say it will "Play" anything and everything. ;-)
Dont even think about getting the tab 10.
The Ti OMAP4 4430 in the toshiba is far superior to Tegra 2.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has A9 cores with Neon processing. Tergra 2 does not have the Neon processing and will be much slower when running apps which use Neon code and alot of apps are starting to use it.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has DUAL channel memory controller. Tegra 2 only has a single channel. Since video memory is shared, dual channel will give double the memory bandwidth which is highly needed since video memory is shared from system memory.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has SUPERIOR video decoding hardware compared to tegra 2. You can finally play real HD 1080p video. Tegra 2 decoder is so slow it cant decode main and high HD profiles which is what everyone uses.
For the newcomers to this forum, don't put much stock in anything ^ this person says. He's a known troll who will say one thing in one thread and then turn around and say the exact opposite in another.
On topic, the Excite looks like a nice machine. Do we have a US release date for it yet?
ouch! Guessing no one has the actually specs on this tab yet, looks decent size wise.
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ouch! Guessing no one has the actually specs on this tab yet, looks decent size wise.
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Full specs have been released.
Does it have an amazing screen like the Samsung SPLS? Screen quality along with weight is what made my decision. However im disappointed in the current state of honeycomb/tablet apps. I would expect apps like Google+ to have the hangout video support. Lack of skype video is also a huge downer. My older samsung galaxy 7 also had way better video playing support.
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For the newcomers to this forum, don't put much stock in anything ^ this person says. He's a known troll who will say one thing in one thread and then turn around and say the exact opposite in another.
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This is a false statement. Never ever have I contradicted myself. Never.
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On topic, the Excite looks like a nice machine. Do we have a US release date for it yet?
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No, but don't worry, I do not think Europe has one either .
And two facts:
1. OMAP is a definitely better SOC than Tegra 2 - no arguing here. The only thing at which Tegra 2 might be better (we will have to wait and see, but I doubt it myself) is energy management.
I am worried about battery life of a tablet with 1,2 - 1,5 Ghz clock.
2. It will be cheaper in US than in EU - fact.
Now, one more "issue" we might encounter by the time it is in the shops. What will be a better choice - tablet with Omap4 or Tegra3/Kal-El with 4 cores and new architecture? (unless nvidia made an intel trick or the one they do with graphic cards - Tegra 3 is two Tegra 2 cpu's on a single chip - this would suck I think)
My sister really wants a pocketable music player/camera/ of some kind. Mom won't get her a phone and is therefore considering an iPod touch, even though my sister shares my hatred of apple products. All said, an android PMP would be perfect for her.
No, an old phone without cellular access would not be ok, my mom... its easier not to try to explain, she just isn't ok with that. =P
So, I went to look up the Samsung Galaxy Players (as the only android PMPs i know are Samsung and Archos, and the Archos ones look disappointing) and i found there were no complete/reliable spec sheets anywhere on the internet >_< information was either vague (EG unspecified 1 GHz processor) or conflicting.
I'm looking between the Galaxy players 4.0, 4,2, and 5.0.
Which is better? screen size and internal storage do not matter as much as screen resolution, RAM, CPU, and SD card. I'm looking to get the best one i can buy at this point, not the best bang-for-your-buck one.
also, i found this device on GSMArena:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_player_70_plus-4633.php
Anyone know anything about it?
As i said, there's not much on the internet about the galaxy players. Any help from you guys would be appreciated
NOTE: yes, i consider a 5" screen pocketable. So does my sister. A 7" tablet (EG nexus 7), however, is not, so that's not an option.
They all suffer from lack of RAM at this point. Maybe you should wait for a new model to be released...if they ever release one. Personally I like the 5.0 because of its screen size, and that's about it. As a PMP they all work fine. In terms of processing power the 4 and 5 are the same, not sure about the 4.2. both the 4 and 5 are SD Card expandable, again not sure about the 4.2. Lastly, that device you linked to looks very promising. Kinda like a Galaxy Player 5.0 2! I hadn't even heard of it until you. To sum it all up, They all work well as PMP's, and they all perform pretty similarly. That 70+ looks way better than any of the previous models, so if you could get your hands on that, go for it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457 All specs are here. However I say the 4.0 is the best because it's more the all rounder PMP player, but the 5.0 has more custom roms. All the spec sheets for all galaxy player are found on Samsung's site. You click tech specs, and then hit the PDF file above.
Do you only want "Android only" players, because there are some other good ones too. The Sony Walkman Z is also android only and is dual core. You can try looking at the Cowon J3, or D3. But I would wait because Samsung is probably going to release a new Galaxy Player. That Device you linked is the Galaxy Player 70 Plus. It is Samsungs first dual core player, but it was only released in Korea. It is based of the Galaxy S2, similar to how the Galaxy player 4.0 is similar to the GS1.
It would be best to wait for the upcoming YP-GP1 with ICS,dual core and qHD.
The new model that's supposed to be released is similar to a Galaxy S3, however, it will be a whopping 5.8 inches, like, mini tablet sized.
I'd say go with the 4.2, it looks better, and quality is better as well, and as long as she's not going to be a heavy gamer of some sorts, she'll be fine with it.
Otherwise, if you plan to put a custom rom, I would say 5.0, although I dont have one myself (I have a 4.0) , since it has more ROMS to choose some, even though 4.0 looks promising.
There's also the Walkman Z, which is Sony's android PMP, and it looks alright, 1 GB of RAM, great if she's going to be a heavy user, although I don't own one of these either, so I have no real experience with it.
Anyways, maybe you should show her some of the choices, and let her pick from them herself.
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It would be best to wait for the upcoming YP-GP1 with ICS,dual core and qHD.
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*googles* oh yeah, i remember reading about that when it was first leaked. Looks perfect. Think it'll be out in time for Christmas?
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The new model that's supposed to be released is similar to a Galaxy S3, however, it will be a whopping 5.8 inches, like, mini tablet sized.
I'd say go with the 4.2, it looks better, and quality is better as well, and as long as she's not going to be a heavy gamer of some sorts, she'll be fine with it.
Otherwise, if you plan to put a custom rom, I would say 5.0, although I dont have one myself (I have a 4.0) , since it has more ROMS to choose some, even though 4.0 looks promising.
There's also the Walkman Z, which is Sony's android PMP, and it looks alright, 1 GB of RAM, great if she's going to be a heavy user, although I don't own one of these either, so I have no real experience with it.
Anyways, maybe you should show her some of the choices, and let her pick from them herself.
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5.8 sounds sweet, actually
she mainly wants it for music, web browsing, and games (mainly angry birds, minecraft PE, and fruit ninja), and i plan to throw GrooveIP on there eventually
ROMs aren't that important, but i do plan to help her root eventually.
Didn't know any of the walkmans were android powered, i'll have to check that out
and i do plan to let her make the final decision, if they're close. however, i want to give her the best options, not every option. I'm sure you understand.
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*googles* oh yeah, i remember reading about that when it was first leaked. Looks perfect. Think it'll be out in time for Christmas?
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Only IFA will tell us more about this. I don't think that if they announce it, it would be released in the US.
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Only IFA will tell us more about this. I don't think that if they announce it, it would be released in the US.
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Eh, all the good stuff has to be imported anyways
5.0 if you cant wait and if you can that new 5.8...i have 5.0 and i love it..i have also android phone with 4.0 inch screen and 2 tablets with 7 and 10.1 and of all them i use SGS 5.0 most of the time and it was cheapest of all device i have.
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Eh, all the good stuff has to be imported anyways
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Maybe US will ban all samsung products and everything that is not apple
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DAC
It is also worth pointing out that the 4.0 (and 4.2 I think) has better sound quality because it has the wolfson DAC (5.0 has yamaha which is not bad but not as good either). You can enable voodoo sound on 4.0
4.0 also has better screen dpi because the resolution is more fitting on the screen size. 5.0 is better for movies IMO but be prepared to see some pixels :cyclops:
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It is also worth pointing out that the 4.0 (and 4.2 I think) has better sound quality because it has the wolfson DAC (5.0 has yamaha which is not bad but not as good either). You can enable voodoo sound on 4.0
4.0 also has better screen dpi because the resolution is more fitting on the screen size. 5.0 is better for movies IMO but be prepared to see some pixels :cyclops:
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Right now the Walkman Z is looking like the best overall device, even with its lack of removable storage. Only things that irks me about it is the charging cable and the lack of cameras. I like the Walkman because the SoC (Tegra 2 + 1GB RAM) is the same as my tablet, so I now its going to be powerful enough. What CPU/RAM do the 4.0, 4.2, and 5.0 have?
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It is also worth pointing out that the 4.0 (and 4.2 I think) has better sound quality because it has the wolfson DAC (5.0 has yamaha which is not bad but not as good either). You can enable voodoo sound on 4.0
4.0 also has better screen dpi because the resolution is more fitting on the screen size. 5.0 is better for movies IMO but be prepared to see some pixels :cyclops:
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I dont see any pixel on mine and if i try.
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Ultimately, there's no best or worst, it's about what's best for you. For this reason i have both the SGS 3.6 and 5.0. I like the 3.6 for its small size and extreme pocketability. I also use it as a bluetooth handsfree with my 7" 3G tablet. I love my 5.0 for the size of it's screen. It's still pocketable and i take it with me to outings and on weekends. It's very good for comfortably surfing the net on that large 5" screen or watching an odd movie.
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Ultimately, there's no best or worst, it's about what's best for you. For this reason i have both the SGS 3.6 and 5.0. I like the 3.6 for its small size and extreme pocketability. I also use it as a bluetooth handsfree with my 7" 3G tablet. I love my 5.0 for the size of it's screen. It's still pocketable and i take it with me to outings and on weekends. It's very good for comfortably surfing the net on that large 5" screen or watching an odd movie.
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well, when i said best, i meant specs/performance-wise...
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well, when i said best, i meant specs/performance-wise...
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even this is relative, it depends on what you need it for. If you want to play some very heavy 3d games, you need more power, but you will sacrifise the battery life.
If you read backa few comments I explain what it'd be used for...
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If you read backa few comments I explain what it'd be used for...
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Mine 5.0 works on 1.2 ghz it had power vr chip 540 ..all games that i have like gta 3 ,max payne ,fifa 12 ,real racing 2 etc works smoothly if that was your anwser.Power Vr 540 chip on 800x480 resolution gives higher FPS then tegra 3 on tablet resolution so 3d want be a problem ..for future games only problem could be single core processor.
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I think it's the 4.0 or the 5.0 because they already have ROMs
Well, I own a Samsung Galaxy Player 4 and 4.2. For My the best between both devices is 4.2. The quality of sound and fluency is better. The only problem is sometimes when I use skype the 4.2 restart the system. :banghead:
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I love my 4.0. It's smaller and fits well in a pocket. But girls have purses so I guess she wouldn't mind something bigger. I'd suggest you to wait for the new 5.8, it will be blazing fast with its dual core.
I Present the Galaxy Player 5.8 (YP-GP1) Instruction Manual (설명서)
I hope that some of you may be able to find this of some use. I was browsing the Naver Cafes and found a PDF of the instruction manual for the Galaxy Player 5.8, or otherwise known as the YP-GP1. My apologies for those of you that don't understand Korean, however there are lots of pictures, you'll at least have a better understanding of the overall layout of the device's appearance; among other things.
As an aside, for those of you that aren't aware, the Galaxy Player 5.8 was just released on the Korean market today (9/11/2012), although I have no idea of pricing or international release dates.
P.S. - The file size surpassed XDA's limit, so I uploaded it here. I can assure this file is a PDF and that it is safe to download.
HERE: https://anonfiles.com/file/072d74f76b8d1e79a5e0188112c6be49
Damn. I want it so bad, so Samsung, if you're not gonna release it in the US then I'll buy the ipod touch 5
Good to know that it's already released in Korea
Edit: can't understand anything in the manual. Can you tell me does it have a back camera? If so how is the camera quality.
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nooktablet said:
Damn. I want it so bad, so Samsung, if you're not gonna release it in the US then I'll buy the ipod touch 5
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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6 months, then I'm gonna get the ipod touch 5 which will probably be announced on Wednesday.
Although I want a bigger screen screen and android, but I don't want to wait too long. Also it will have a 16:9 4 inch screen so it won't be very bad (but I still want a bigger screen like I said lol)
(I don't need a phone. I need something like a smart phone without phone calling functionality. That's why I need a device like this)
P/s: I though you're Korean and live in Korea lol
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Oh and do you know does it have a back camera? I just want a back camera to scan bar code and text, not for taking pictures, so it doesn't have to be high quality.
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
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totally agree with this. it's actually not that much bigger than 5.0, only 8mm wider and 2.5cm longer.
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In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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Do you mean they advertised it in Korea? It doesn't authomatically mean that there will be an Int version of the device. The refreshed version of 5.0 (with dual core processor and a gig of ram) has never been released in the west, this device may have the same fate.
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totally agree with this. it's actually not that much bigger than 5.0, only 8mm wider and 2.5cm longer.
Do you mean they advertised it in Korea? It doesn't authomatically mean that there will be an Int version of the device. The refreshed version of 5.0 (with dual core processor and a gig of ram) has never been released in the west, this device may have the same fate.
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Yes. It was advertized widely in Korea. I hadn't thought about the YP-GB70D, but you are right to mention that. However, I still want to hold out hope, as this is a brand new device modeled after their flagship phone the S III. So, with that in mind, Samsung may want to release the device here with a fresh start; also where the Galaxy S III is selling well.
If all else fails, you could probably pick one up on eBay in the near future.
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6 months, then I'm gonna get the ipod touch 5 which will probably be announced on Wednesday.
Although I want a bigger screen screen and android, but I don't want to wait too long. Also it will have a 16:9 4 inch screen so it won't be very bad (but I still want a bigger screen like I said lol)
(I don't need a phone. I need something like a smart phone without phone calling functionality. That's why I need a device like thid)
P/s: I though you're Korean and live in Korea lol
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:laugh: Nope, sorry. I am not Korean, but I have lived in Korea. I am as white as they come. I like to call myself a linguist.
But, to answer your question, if you take a look at the instruction manual I uploaded, there are lots of pictures of the device and features. However, the short answer to your question is, "Yes. It does have a front and rear camera."
Also, about the iPod Touch 5, I'd advise you to wait for the Galaxy Player, as you'll probably be able to get one on eBay in the near future. If you go with Apple, you look like everybody else. You have the same device as probably 1:3 people around you. Be different, and more importantly, go BIG! You know you want 5.8 inches of screen real estate.:good:
Eh I bet the iPod 5 will be as bad as the 4, but with a "revolutionary" screen size of 4 inches!! I am kinda warming to the size of the 5.8, but it had better be sub-$200 for "only" dual core. Otherwise I would just keep my 4.0 and get a nexus 7.
Thanks for the manual BTW. Now I just need an interpreter, lol!
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the ipod touch still has something makes me consider:
- high resolution, it's only 4 inch and has a retina resolution, while the samsung has 5.8 inch screen and has a qHD screen resolution, but i believe the screen on the samsung is not very bad, just not as good as the ipod touch
- good design, yeah to be honest i really like the design of the ipod touch 4, or apple products' design in general, will put it into a case anyway.
tomorrow we (probably) will know what kind of hardware does it have and of course more importantly - the price, now with the $200 kindle fire hd and nexus 7, they better lower the price or at least make it stay the same and increase storage (i think it will be $200 for the 16 GB version, there's no 8 GB version)
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the ipod touch still has something makes me consider:
- high resolution, it's only 4 inch and has a retina resolution, while the samsung has 5.8 inch screen and has a qHD screen resolution, but i believe the screen on the samsung is not very bad, just not as good as the ipod touch
- good design, yeah to be honest i really like the design of the ipod touch 4, or apple products' design in general, will put it into a case anyway.
tomorrow we (probably) will know what kind of hardware does it have and of course more importantly - the price, now with the $200 kindle fire hd and nexus 7, they better lower the price or at least make it stay the same and increase storage (i think it will be $200 for the 16 GB version, there's no 8 GB version)
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I did some more browsing on the Korean forums and it seems that for a 16GB model you'll be facing a price tag of $400 and $425 for a 32GB. I would hate to tell you that these prices are official, but it seems to be more likely than not that these are the prices to be. I am certainly hoping for better. If not, I'll be waiting for a price drop.
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Eh I bet the iPod 5 will be as bad as the 4, but with a "revolutionary" screen size of 4 inches!! I am kinda warming to the size of the 5.8, but it had better be sub-$200 for "only" dual core. Otherwise I would just keep my 4.0 and get a nexus 7.
Thanks for the manual BTW. Now I just need an interpreter, lol!
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I was honestly thinking about translating it myself until I saw the page count. Then I was like, "Never mind! I definitely have no time for that." But, after skimming through it I can tell you that most of it is stuff you'd already know. The manual didn't explicitly say it, but I am hoping that they incorporated a Bluetooth hands-free profile.
Oh! One more thing for those of you who were wondering, the device DOES have a rear camera. I believe the rear camera is 3 megapixels. (I know. I know. Terrible, right?) As for the front camera (don't quote me on this), I believe it is .3 megapixels, but I'll update this post if/when I get an actual figure. (I know I saw it in the manual.)
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I did some more browsing on the Korean forums and it seems that for a 16GB model you'll be facing a price tag of $400 and $425 for a 32GB. I would hate to tell you that these prices are official, but it seems to be more likely than not that these are the prices to be. I am certainly hoping for better. If not, I'll be waiting for a price drop.
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well i believe they will not price it that high unless they're crazy, at least in the US.
i'd get a nexus 7 or kindle fire hd or ipod touch (because it's portable than the 2 tablets). the highest price i'd pay for the 16GB is $250, and i expect it to be $200.
how come they price it $400, you know my TF300T is $400, the ipad 2 is $400. This is not a galaxy s3 or note 2, it doesn't have good resolution, it doesn't have very good processor, why? because they want to cut cost. who would buy it at $400, i know i won't.
in my opinion $200 is still expensive, the fire hd and the nexus 7 are priced at $200 and they have pretty good specs. that's why i'm thinking if apple price the ipod touch 5 $200 it should have something good/special.
In short, i would never buy this device if it's $400 (which i believe the price is not true, samsung is not that crazy)
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I was honestly thinking about translating it myself until I saw the page count. Then I was like, "Never mind! I definitely have no time for that." But, after skimming through it I can tell you that most of it is stuff you'd already know. The manual didn't explicitly say it, but I am hoping that they incorporated a Bluetooth hands-free profile.
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i also am hoping for the Bluetooth hands-free profile. the page 121 in the manual says that (using google translator):
"Music by connecting a stereo headset that supports Bluetooth function
Or hear or connect external devices, mobile phone data and
Can get.
Bluetooth feature on or off."
does this mean bt hf?
Well, the ipod 5g was just announced and seems pretty boring to me. Finally has a "revolutionary" 4 inch screen, when most of the world has moved on to sizes close to 5 inches, lol! Only comes in 32gb and 64gb, starting at $299, witch seems a bit pricy, so I think not many kids will be getting one for their Christmas present, unless their parents REALLY love them! Has a "revolutionary" lanyard as well. No gps or 3g (I'm not surprised). Camera is pretty decent at 5mp, but again is already aging. CPU is the A5 witch is dual core, but once again is already over a year old technology. I would like to know what the ram is, but Apple seems to think that isn't important, since the only way to find out is rip their devices open. It is pretty darn thin at 6.1mm, but I find myself wondering how easy that is to keep hold of, since I have trouble keeping a 7.1mm 4g in my hand, lol! All in all, I say not worth the high price. What do you think?
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Well, the ipod 5g was just announced and seems pretty boring to me. Finally has a "revolutionary" 4 inch screen, when most of the world has moved on to sizes close to 5 inches, lol! Only comes in 32gb and 64gb, starting at $299, witch seems a bit pricy, so I think not many kids will be getting one for their Christmas present, unless their parents REALLY love them! Has a "revolutionary" lanyard as well. No gps or 3g (I'm not surprised). Camera is pretty decent at 5mp, but again is already aging. CPU is the A5 witch is dual core, but once again is already over a year old technology. I would like to know what the ram is, but Apple seems to think that isn't important, since the only way to find out is rip their devices open. It is pretty darn thin at 6.1mm, but I find myself wondering how easy that is to keep hold of, since I have trouble keeping a 7.1mm 4g in my hand, lol! All in all, I say not worth the high price. What do you think?
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hmm -> http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/pod-touch-hands-on-2012-video/
I actually think it's a pretty sweet looking device.. I think i will get it just to see what this iOS is about (since i've never owned an iOS device before). They say it'll get the iPhone 4s' processor, which is (AFAIK) is very powerful and is (much) more powerful than what Samsung Galaxy players have. No way i'm parting with my Galaxy Players though (In fact am planning to get the new 5.8 as well). Pitty this iPod Touch can't be upgraded to Android.. and Apple devices have crappy batteries (except iPads, iPhone 4S has a 950MAh battery, which is a joke!)
Yup, well tell me what you think.
My dad has an iPad, and here are the biggest things that bug me about iOS: first and foremost, WHY THE HECK ARE ALL THE APP SETTINGS PUT INTO THE SYSTEM SETTINGS!? It just makes no sense! When I want to change the settings of an app, I should find the settings in the app, NOT have to dig around in the system settings! Another thing that is super annoying is the lack of a common back button like android. The unisearch is also junk compared to android's, for example no search suggestions and no customizing searchable items! Another HUGE handicap is no file browser (yes you can jail break, but my dad won't, and frankly you shouldn't have to!). I think this feature is one that truly shows how much more open and PC-like android is! The list goes on, but these are the ones always giving me a headache.
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If you guys search YouTube for galaxy player 5.8, you'll see the new device, hands on, by some Russian reviewer.
I would post a link, but I'm on my phone at the moment.
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euphoriaflow said:
If you guys search YouTube for galaxy player 5.8, you'll see the new device, hands on, by some Russian reviewer.
I would post a link, but I'm on my phone at the moment.
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Thanks for the tip. The fellow reviewing the device did a side-by-side with the S III, and the disparity in screen quality in terms of clarity and contrast was painstakingly obvious. You could see that every color on the spectrum was not as lush on the Player 5.8 compared to the S III.
Seeing as how the price I mentioned a few posts ago seems to be official, I am having reservations about buying the device, after all.
My plan of action:
By the time I could feasibly go to Seoul, or by the time the device would potentially be released in the U.S., should it be released at all, the Galaxy Note 2 will have been released. Seeing as how the Note 2 will be full HD, have a much better screen, and be packed with many more features, I think I am just going to wait for a Note 2 and hang on to my current Player 5.0 and hope that developers continue to port things to it.
Thoughts? Ideas?
By the way, here is the link for that YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttpv3ONlYHM
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Thanks for the tip. The fellow reviewing the device did a side-by-side with the S III, and the disparity in screen quality in terms of clarity and contrast was painstakingly obvious. You could see that every color on the spectrum was not as lush on the Player 5.8 compared to the S III.
Seeing as how the price I mentioned a few posts ago seems to be official, I am having reservations about buying the device, after all.
My plan of action:
By the time I could feasibly go to Seoul, or by the time the device would potentially be released in the U.S., should it be released at all, the Galaxy Note 2 will have been released. Seeing as how the Note 2 will be full HD, have a much better screen, and be packed with many more features, I think I am just going to wait for a Note 2 and hang on to my current Player 5.0 and hope that developers continue to port things to it.
Thoughts? Ideas?
By the way, here is the link for that YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttpv3ONlYHM
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I think that's a fine plan of action, Note 2 would most definitely be better.
If the new Player has a reasonable enough price, I might consider it, however, if it is too expensive, I'll probably just go with a 16 GB Nexus 7, since 8 GB is certainly not enough for me, lol.
Hi everyone!
I am about to buy a new phone and I have decided to wait no longer (especially with the Christmas sales) and I am choosing between the Lumia 920 and the Galaxy S3. I am unsure which one to choose as each one has different benefits. My specific needs (above using at as a phone) include medium/heavy gaming, music, occasional video marathons (on planes etc.) and web browsing.
The Galaxy S3:
More powerful graphics processor (Mali400MP>Adreno 225)
Better battery life (especially with upgrades)
Google Play (Many games are not available on WP8, which matters a lot to me, especially emulators)
Better Storage (Micro SD Card Slot + 16GB > 32GB)
The Lumia 920:
More recent, less 'outdated' (Lumia 920 will be flagship for longer in WP8)
Windows Phone 8 (I tried it in the store and loved the interface)
Better camera and Build Quality
From my research currently the Google Play is far more populated than Windows Phone and has far more full featured games and apps although Windows defiantly can improve. Furthermore, the Galaxy S3 is no longer going to be the 'big samsung flagship' anymore and with Exynos 5 games may no longer be optimized for it / have to run at lower settings whereas the 920, although it has a worse GPU, will be the flagship for longer and new games will be optimized (although these games will mainly be catchup to Google Play).
Please help me I don't know which one to choose!
Thank you for reading!
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In US and Canada, Galaxy S3s with LTE have the exact same CPU/GPU as Lumia 920. The Samsung Exynos quad core processor is only used in countries where no LTE is supported. So, the so called GPU advantage really depends on where you are. On top of that, most Android games are not really optimize for the Mali GPU. So the advantage won't help you much there. Same goes for the UI experience on Android. Even with the quad core processor, the Android home screen UI will still lag behind the single core Windows Phone 7 home screen, not to mention the WP8 with dual cores
Specs alone doesn't tell any story of real world experience.
foxbat121 said:
The Samsung Exynos quad core processor is only used in countries where no LTE is supported. So, the so called GPU advantage really depends on where you are. On top of that, most Android games are not really optimize for the Mali GPU. So the advantage won't help you much there.
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Well I live in the UK and will most certainly be buying neither on 4G so I will be getting the Exynos 4 quad. From what I have seen on the web and from my friends it seems that most games are optimized (run smoothly and with good graphics) for exynos (look at Nova 3/Asphalt 7/Need for Speed MW compared to Tegra 3 or even the Lumia 920s own Adreno 225 running in an android phone for example) so I would say that the Mali 400MP is a bonus to the Galaxy S3 considering gaming is a large part of why I want a good phone in the first place.
I definitely prefer the 920s User Interface and smoothness over the Galaxy S3 however, its just that it has a better GPU and far better App/Game selection.
Well from that reasoning, I'm not sure why you don't pick iPhone. Its GPU is way faster than anything out there (see here http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/11) and its app collection and games are certainly surpassing Android.
I use both WP and Android phones. I can tell you that the only advantages android has is paper specs.
You are picking phone from the wrong aspect. You need pick an eco system first, then compare the spec within that eco system.
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I don't like the smaller screen of the iPhone and personally I don't like iOS so that is out of the question (it is also a lot more expensive in the UK).
Why I am comparing spec between 2 Operating Systems is that either way, Mali 400 would allow for more graphically demanding games as it is more powerful.
At this point I'll probably choose the GS3 mainly for the app store.
Thankyou for your trouble though.
Due to the fact most websites uses a white background, the GS3's OLED display will consume a great amount of battery.
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Due to the fact most websites uses a white background, the GS3's OLED display will consume a great amount of battery.
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This is true for web browsing but for general use on non white backgrounds (general use) OLED consumes less battery than LCD. From what I have read online is that in general use the Galaxy S3 has better batter life (GSMarena even rates the GS3s web browsing as an hour higher, although the Lumia 920 will have a brighter screen at the 50% at which they conduct their tests).
My lumia 920 battery lasts me for about 2 days with moderate usage. With heavy usage it lasts for a day (same as my HTC Incredible S). After using SGS3 and Lumia920, I'd say that the Lumia provides for a much more fluidic experience than SGS3. The camera is simply superb. And it is built like a tank.
I don't mind the fledgling ecosystem of WP8, it will take time to catch up. But whatever apps I need for my daily use (like Endomondo or Evernote, etc.) are present in the WP8 market.
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My lumia 920 battery lasts me for about 2 days with moderate usage. With heavy usage it lasts for a day (same as my HTC Incredible S). After using SGS3 and Lumia920, I'd say that the Lumia provides for a much more fluidic experience than SGS3.
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Now I am not sure what to get. It basically boils down to, at the basic level, app store (GS3) vs user interface (Lumia 920)
You just have to play with them yourself to make a judgement. There is no universally accepted answers to this question. Everyone has different prorities.
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You just have to play with them yourself to make a judgement. There is no universally accepted answers to this question. Everyone has different prorities.
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I guess this is what is the right thing. I will probably go with the GS3 because I am sure to have all the apps/games I want and also it is quite a bit cheaper.
Thankyou!
Jaken326 said:
I guess this is what is the right thing. I will probably go with the GS3 because I am sure to have all the apps/games I want and also it is quite a bit cheaper.
Thankyou!
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That's a good decision as apps/games are more important for you.
Jaken326 said:
Hi everyone!
I am about to buy a new phone and I have decided to wait no longer (especially with the Christmas sales) and I am choosing between the Lumia 920 and the Galaxy S3. I am unsure which one to choose as each one has different benefits. My specific needs (above using at as a phone) include medium/heavy gaming, music, occasional video marathons (on planes etc.) and web browsing.
The Galaxy S3:
More powerful graphics processor (Mali400MP>Adreno 225)
Better battery life (especially with upgrades)
Google Play (Many games are not available on WP8, which matters a lot to me, especially emulators)
Better Storage (Micro SD Card Slot + 16GB > 32GB)
The Lumia 920:
More recent, less 'outdated' (Lumia 920 will be flagship for longer in WP8)
Windows Phone 8 (I tried it in the store and loved the interface)
Better camera and Build Quality
From my research currently the Google Play is far more populated than Windows Phone and has far more full featured games and apps although Windows defiantly can improve. Furthermore, the Galaxy S3 is no longer going to be the 'big samsung flagship' anymore and with Exynos 5 games may no longer be optimized for it / have to run at lower settings whereas the 920, although it has a worse GPU, will be the flagship for longer and new games will be optimized (although these games will mainly be catchup to Google Play).
Please help me I don't know which one to choose!
Thank you for reading!
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Hi mate on one work I can say you will be surely disappointed if you buy any Windows 8 based mobile that for sure and the reason below:
I am already a Galaxy s3 users and I can only say the few thing about it at glance, the only person who help you who use old windows phone and new Windows Mobile 8 and a Android or Galaxy S3 user, I am using Galaxy S3 since November and its flawless and perfect beautiful, actually I had to choose between Galaxy S3 and Iphone 5 (unlock) I havent those phone before buying, I seen both the phone in three store at the day on Iphone 5 launch day and seriously I feel iphone 5 like tiny, restricted screen size and look like cheap toy and I decided to go with Galaxy S3, recently my t-mobile contract was on due and I choose to got Nokia Lumia 820 instead of 920 because the price it selling is not a worth, the plus point of 920 is the Video camera only which can shoot smooth video, but in photo camera 920's performance is on par with Galaxy s3 and iphone 5 in some condition bit better or worse other than that there is no advantage of having any windows base base because of immature, incomplete, buggy and deficient with the most basic feature or software like No Notification LED, No File manager, Can't save apps on SD card, and same volume level
Here is my worst experience with Windows phone 8 and Lumia 820 and I think that experience with the Lumia 920 would be same or some case litte worse or only a bit better,
When I buy Lumia 820 I am happy with its design and screen quality despite or low resolution ppi but I am overall happy with the look and feel because its a removable battery perfect for one handed and not bulky or brick like 920, problem start when 820 start freezing and restarting and lack of basic functionality like no file manager or sound profile and lacks of basic features, and support of SD card is tricky only few card can work with 820 and I tried 4 different types of card but only one seem to be working file and poor battery and other problem I decided to give it back, one more thing wireless charing plate is become useless when you use case or cover in this situation you have to choose between wireless charing or case
(1) Design point of view really really light and please to use comfortable and fits in any kind of pocket and not bulky at all
(2) Apps market: you just type the name and android market must have those apps, games, books, magazine and newspaper etc.
(3) The android is the completely flexible software you can change or choose you own dialer, sms apps, themes, launcher, notification, keyboards homescreen look
(3) most importance factor is SD card if you have existing SD card from other phone you can insert and use it even you can connect External Mouse, Keyboard or hard drive through connector
(4) Notification LED most importance for me to sure that I will not missed any missed calls or sms etc while I put my phone go around
(5) Removable battery, useful just imaging you were on the long travel playing game etc and your phone died removable battery can be handy
(6) Excellent file manager and you pur any file like pdf, .doc .xls .ppt divx, .ogg, jpg .tiff .mov .wmv and it can open out of box or through apps
(8) you can pur case or cover and it doesn't look bulky
I just want to see the Windows phone 8 working so I decided to choose Lumia 820 but I cant even think about dumping Galaxy S3 and switch to any Windows phone 8 phone..... hope it will be enough to decide for you any other
Jaken326 said:
Hi everyone!
I am about to buy a new phone and I have decided to wait no longer (especially with the Christmas sales) and I am choosing between the Lumia 920 and the Galaxy S3. I am unsure which one to choose as each one has different benefits. My specific needs (above using at as a phone) include medium/heavy gaming, music, occasional video marathons (on planes etc.) and web browsing.
The Lumia 920:
More recent, less 'outdated' (Lumia 920 will be flagship for longer in WP8)
Windows Phone 8 (I tried it in the store and loved the interface)
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You can have a Windows style Tile interface on Android. There are many launchers available and someone has made a windows phone style one. Android is about choice. If you don't want to have to make choices buy windows. If you want choices, don't buy windows. The lumia is a lovely handset. But let's be honest, all the debate about handsets feeling nice in the hand is pointless when people put their expensive handset in a case.
battery life on my gs3 is not stellar. my old atrix 4g that I let my wife have still has better battery life than the gs3. its decent and generally gets me through my work day, but moderate usage will generally require me to plug in. fixing to ditch the gs3 and go for the 920 and give the w8 ecosystem a try for a while. just upgraded to w8 and picked up a new 360 slim..... so i'll see how it goes.
At the end of the day both have phone and messaging and a web browser. Apps are typically shortcuts to web counterparts, with the exception of games.
If you value having the latest OS then the Nexus 4 is the best option, but sadly Google seem to think it is 2007 and that 8GB is enough.
I went from a S11 to the 920. Love it, a great phone!
It reminds me of when I first bought the S11 almost two years ago, everyone said that the app store was empty compared to Apple, that the apps were rubbish that were there, etc.
The Windows store does not have as many apps at the moment, but I am not missing any apps from my Android, you get Office and the Nokia maps and apps are great, don't miss Google one bit.
BUT I don't play games on my phone, so cannot help you there.
Some comments kill me
onlinejobwork said:
Hi mate on one work I can say you will be surely disappointed if you buy any Windows 8 based mobile that for sure and the reason below:
I choose to got Nokia Lumia 820 instead of 920 because the price it selling is not a worth, the plus point of 920 is the Video camera only which can shoot smooth video, but in photo camera 920's performance is on par with Galaxy s3 and iphone 5 in some condition bit better or worse other than that there is no advantage of having any windows base base because of immature, incomplete, buggy and deficient with the most basic feature or software like No Notification LED, No File manager, Can't save apps on SD card, and same volume level
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Your comment is so biased. You know nothing about Windowsphne 8 OS. How hell you can talk about Lumia 920 if you never hold it in your arms?
I had Galaxy S3, sold it the third day and got Lumia 920. And I'm totally happy because Lumia is so beautiful to touch, to feel, to watch and to use comparing to Galaxy S3. Samsung is so cheap, made of cheap plastic and doesn't really feel solid at all. Nokia is a way better device overall. Speaking about Windowsphone market. You can find most needed apps on it. As for games, I really don't care because I don't play a lot. So Lumia 920 satisfies totally my needs. And it is so classy and prestigious in hands. It is my best phone I have ever had so far!
Jaken326 said:
Now I am not sure what to get. It basically boils down to, at the basic level, app store (GS3) vs user interface (Lumia 920)
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My personal preference, as an Android user since it was introduced is now the wp8 OS. I like the interface more than I miss the wider breadth of apps. Selling my HTC One X and keeping the Lumia 920. After about 4 days of use there was no doubt in my mind. 5 weeks later I'm confident enough that I am sharing this opinion with you now.
Both are great units and OS's. You really can't go bad either way. It's just which way will be "gooder" for you? (I'm kidding with the "gooder" of course)
I wouldn't put too much stock in battery life. I've had an SG3 i9300 for 3 months now and my wifes had here Lumia 920 for about a month. One may have better battery life than the other, but both last more than a day for us. If pushed my i9300 might have slightly better battery life, but my wifes i9300 has LTE. Again, both phones easily last the day (0600 to 2200) with plenty of battery to spare (probably over 30%)
In my opinion, if games are important to you, then you would be happier with the i9300 SGS3, However if you are an Xbox 360 gamer as well, you might be quite happy with the Lumia 920. At least that's what my son tells me. He received a Lumia 920 for christmas and likes it because it allows him to earn achievements. He also tells me smart glass is pretty cool but I think that's an option on the SGS3 as well.