[Q] is there anything like my old htc's s-on/s-off I need to be aware of? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I'm looking into getting a Galaxy S2 at the end of the month when my upgrade comes due.
I'm currently using an HTC Legend, which has been brilliant, especially since I rooted it. One thing I did find was that due to hboot version on the legend it was impossible for me to get "S-OFF" - I originally thought this s-on s-off thing was common to all android phones but having searched all the hits I get are HTC.
What I would like to know is if there is anything similar under a different name on the Galaxy S2 / Samsung phones that I need to be aware of? or is it just a case of rooting it to get full control?
Many thanks guys
insanimal

Its comes with unlocked bootloader(s-off in htc)
Their are many variants like i9100,i9100G,i777,etc
Make sure you get i9100 international then you are able to use every rom here

Brilliant, thanks I didn't realise they meant the same thing.
Also thanks for mentioning the different versions of the hardware! I've just had a look and I guess as I'll be getting it direct from Vodafone UK I should be alright.
insanimal

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[Q] i905 roms/support?

What is with the complete lack of support for i905? Everything is either p7500 or p7510. In fact it is so p7500 or p7510 I ended up searching for whether or not i905 was a subdivision of one of those two models because there is absolutely no other options.
Also, why is this the only device development thread without a bible or some reference stickies! Comparatively to the other carriers who provide the 10.1, I thought verizon was the best choice due to no soft or hard caps on data plans and you essentially get what you pay for. Now I feel totally screwed. I've enjoyed xda's awesome community on my g1, mytouch, galaxy s and other devices but I feel completely homeless with this device.
I enjoy the stock rom and I'm not nearly as flash happy as I used to be, I mainly wanted a custom rom to unlock some standard bluetooth profiles that are locked by default on verizons's i905, such as A2DP. Does anyone know if you can use heimdall to install parts of a custom rom excluding the radio and other potentially brick-able parts? Or maybe any leads on just enabling the A2DP?
Thanks.
After browsing for hours more I'm starting to understand why verizon has a surplus of refurbished galaxy tabs. No doubt people are bricking their devices trying to use any of the awesome looking incompatible roms and sending them back because their is so little information about LTE vzw i905 devices anywhere. What gives? It's still a galaxy tab 10.1! Even the few roms that claim to work with LTE completely lose 4g :'(
Are verizon tabs just completely screwed?
I almost bought a verizon tab but it was priced stupid and contact if I got it was forever it seemed. Didn't know of the lack of support for it, but an really glad I never got one.
Other than current lack of custom support for it being pretty obvious, I know nothing more about it. Sorry.
If you can read this it was sent using my GT-P7510.

[Q] Galaxy ROM on EVO 3D?

This might be a pretty noob question, and I want to assure everyone that I have searched for an answer on a bunch of threads to no avail:
Is it possible to port a Galaxy ROM to a phone like the EVO 3D? I hear nothing but good things about the Galaxy phones, and am curious to try them out without actually purchasing one. So is it possible to do so? I'm thinking not, since I haven't seen any such ROMS out there, but either way I'd like to know why or why not. If it IS possible, can anyone direct me to an appropriate ROM (or theme/launcher at least)?
Thank you so much for your help, and I apologize if this is a noob question that has been answered before- XDA is a world of it's own, so it's easy to miss a thread or two!
It IS possible, but as I have never seen one, you would have to do it from scratch, which normally takes teams of people weeks or months to get working correctly.
mijito6 said:
This might be a pretty noob question, and I want to assure everyone that I have searched for an answer on a bunch of threads to no avail:
Is it possible to port a Galaxy ROM to a phone like the EVO 3D? I hear nothing but good things about the Galaxy phones, and am curious to try them out without actually purchasing one. So is it possible to do so? I'm thinking not, since I haven't seen any such ROMS out there, but either way I'd like to know why or why not. If it IS possible, can anyone direct me to an appropriate ROM (or theme/launcher at least)?
Thank you so much for your help, and I apologize if this is a noob question that has been answered before- XDA is a world of it's own, so it's easy to miss a thread or two!
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Generally, one of the common issues when porting ROMs are the difference in radio between CDMA and GSM. Using a galaxy device on the same radio as the EVO 3D device would be a good starting point, but would require a bit of work.
Off the top of my head, the major issues I'd forsee would be with the kernel/drivers, Android libraries and Android frameworks.
Either way, would be a very time consuming project and not sure the outcome would be very beneficial.
Your original goal was to expercience the Galaxy device, which you've heard is popular. In my opinion, the best way to do this would be to demo a Galaxy device as opposed to loading the Galaxy version of the Android OS onto a EVO 3D.
One reason the Galaxy devices are popular is Samsung as made them available across the world on many many carriers, while the EVO 3D has had a very limited release audience in comparison.
Hope that helps!

Need info abt Galaxy S3 Rooting Process before purchase

Hello,
I, like so many others am trying to decide between the Samsung Galaxy S3 & the HTC Evo 4G LTE. One thing that I definitely want is to be able to root and flash ROMS on whichever phone I get. I know that root has been achieved on both phones but I'd like thoughts on developer support between the two, and which one (or both) can be set back to an original state where it's not known it was rooted for warranty purposes. I know HTC lets you unlock the bootloader but unless there's a workaround it'll say relocked on the bootloader allowing anyone savvy enough to check that it's been rooted. Wondering if current root versions are S-on, S-off or either with the owner choosing. Or perhaps S-off is a must in order to truly relock the bootloader so it says locked instead of relocked. I also read in my research that you can trip a counter on the S3 the counts how many ROMS have been flashed... Although I also read it's possible to root without tripping the counter but if anything goes wrong, you can't reset the counter.
Now, it seems like the S3 would have the most dev support since it's been released globally but I'm assuming that the ROMS developed for the global quad core version won't be compatible with the dual core US version. Is this correct? Is there Evo dev community really committed so that I could expect similar work being done for both phones?
Lastly, I'm assuming that the S3 will have more accessories available for it given its release on 5 US carriers without any changes in the phone... Seems like a first for any phone but the iphone. Do you agree with this or do you expect lots of accessories and aftermarket items available for the Evo LTE as well.
I know that there's a lot of questions in this but with the phones being so similar, this may be the area that differentiates them. And I know that I definitely want to root the phone... No question on that.
Thanks in advance for any and all advice! I appreciate it so much!
my simplified answer is: get the s3. more dev support, more accessories, mor everything. you can flash beats audio for the s3 too if that is important. great cm9 and aosp/aokp support as well
Seriously?! You can flash beats audio to the S3? Will it affect all sound that comes out of the phone (phone speaker, hands free speakerphone, music, video, all of it?) like it does on the Evo LTE? That's so cool... Not so much that I'd want it for sure but that I could have one of the main selling points on an Evo LTE on an S3! Freakin' awesome. Thanks so much for that reply and info.
You can't flash the international roms
But universalizing all us rooms for all us carriers are being worked on
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gtuansdiamm said:
You can't flash the international roms
But universalizing all us rooms for all us carriers are being worked on
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Cool. So, in theory, there could be 2-4x the devs working on S3 ROMS as the exact same phone is being released on 5 US carriers simultaneously. So, where most phones have devs from one or maybe two carriers... This will have devs from all 5. That has the potential to really make a difference and certainly add to the development synergistically. That's exciting!
Its gonna be like nexus development
But less confusing cause we have more subsections
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Is it just me, or is the development section for this phone a ghost town?

I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
Check out the non-carrier-specific forum...it's pretty active.
EDIT: HTC didn't come up short, this phone is considered quite a success.
My theory for this specific forum being dead is that T-Mobile's national release of this phone was yesterday (06/05/2013). Before that, it was only available in their "high-volume" locations.
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
yea all the development is in the international forum. all roms on that forum will work on the tmo htc one and they work very well. i have flashed every sense based rom and most of the aosp roms. definitely not a ghost town over there:good:
Yeah, they should. But as always, continue at your own risk.
akarol said:
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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yes but the 4.2 sense roms havent implemented support for tmo yet they still work as im running trickdroid 7.0 now just no wifi calling yet but the 4.1 versions have wifi calling and most other tmo stuff
akarol said:
I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
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As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
Yea I've been hanging out in the International One forums as almost all their ROMs work for us.
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
LiquidSolstice said:
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
akarol said:
Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
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Psssst... psssttt hey if u come we will welcome you!:screwy:
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Firov said:
As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
the7thson said:
I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it:
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
Firov said:
9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
the7thson said:
Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
LiquidSolstice said:
It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
the7thson said:
Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
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akarol said:
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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You're going to enjoy the One. It's the first Android phone to have the build quality of an iPhone with specs that beat the pants off it
The only thing that sucks about the One is that because it has such a high pixel density, you will be extremely sensitive and aware of pixels in all your other displays (laptop/desktop/tablet etc).
I own an ASUS Zenbook, which is a 13" ultrabook with a full 1920x1080p display which is retina-levels of dense on such a small screen (I think it's almost 170 pixels per inch). The One? The one is a whopping ~470 pixels per inch. It is stupidly dense and I promise you won't find a single pixel no matter how hard you look.
the7thson said:
I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
jjohn999 said:
would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
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Look like they took it down. I have it in my local computer here and I can upload it for you somewhere if you like. PM me if you have access to somewhere I can put it for you.

Few Questions on HTC One Root+recovery

I am buying a used AT&T HTC One with 1.26.502.12 version on it. I am not new to rooting (have a Nexus 4 and S4 I-337 rooted), but my questions are specific to HTC One since it is the first HTC device I will be owning.
1) I keep seeing the term S-Off... can someone please explain me what it means? Is it same as boot-loader unlocking?
2) I have seen some threads suggesting that the newer updates to HTC One are difficult to root.. Is there something I can do to block these updates when I get the device, so I can quickly root/recovery it? (For Galaxy S4 I-337, I used this method to block the newer updates - is there something similar for HTC One?)
3) I am looking for a good ROM that is closer to the International HTC One experience, minus a lot of HTC bloatware. I am considering Scott's CleanROM.. what other ROM's fall in the "like stock HTC" category? I don't mean to compare ROMs - I am just looking to figure out which is best for me.
Thanks!

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