[Q] Rooting vs Rooting + ROM - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

OK so a year later and frustration with Moto update waits, I'm considering rooting this phone. My main reason for doing so is mainly to freeze or remove Blur and carrier (Bell) bloatware, but I have some questions about which way to go with this:
1. Rooting but not flashing a custom ROM. Instead, freeze the bloat using TiBU. This would be the far simpler method I think. I would then install a custom launcher (I currently prefer Launcher 7) and freeze the Blur home launcher so it doesn't run behind Launcher 7. My concern about this method is that I've read occasional reports by people that some of the "frozen" Blur system apps actually continued to work...
2. Flashing CM7. This is my 2nd choice. I'm a pretty lazy guy, and I don't mind rooting with how easy it is to do these days, but the extra work flashing custom ROMS isn't appealing to me. If I am forced to go this route, (a)What's the best way to freeze or remove the launcher that comes with CM7 and replace with one of my choosing so that two launchers are not running at the same time? (b)Does CM7 come with all the Motoblur and Carrier stuff removed?

I would go with the CM7 route. it is a little more to do but not by much and the payoff will be much greater. once you have it though as far as the launcher goes just install the one you want and use titanium back up to uninstall ADW (the launcher that comes with most CM7 builds). And use CM7 is a non BLUR ROM so blur is fully non existant on it. and all the other bloat ware is gone as well. You can go even further and use the nuetrino ROM witch is reall barebones and you can add on the stuff you need but i would suggest grabbing the CM7 RC1 nightly and running with that. Any question on how to do any of this just read the noob guide over and it is a breeze and you will even seen how easy it is to do after that and find yourself testing out many diffrent roms.

thanks, I only have 2 questions that will make or break CM7 for me -
has a good stable solution been found for the poor camera quality I've seen reported with CM7?
How well does CM7 play with GPS and the Motorola Cardock? I use those a LOT

I hae had no issues with camera quality on my CM7 and as far as the GPS car dock not sure how it will effect it. i can say that GPS over all is also not a issue for me. i dont have the car dock but i do use GPS navigation most of the day every day and have no issues.

omnius1 said:
thanks, I only have 2 questions that will make or break CM7 for me -
has a good stable solution been found for the poor camera quality I've seen reported with CM7?
How well does CM7 play with GPS and the Motorola Cardock? I use those a LOT
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Have you tried the miui camera app? I notice better quality with that camera app on cm7 than the stock cm7 camera app.
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I have not tried that one I have seen that it is really nice and has many more options than the stock cm7 just never worried to much about it
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[Q] Which custom ROM is the best?

Hi everyone,
I must point out that I am pretty new to the whole custom ROM thing, I still have the stock ROM and everything on my xperia x10,
so my question is which ROM gives the best performance (ie less lag, good battery life, not many bugs, etc)? and can you give me simple instructions on how to install it because I don't want to screw something up and brick my phone, please?
Also when having a custom ROM installed, are you able to implement (install) patches given out by sony ericsson or you just follow the forum and wait for the developer of the ROM to make a patch, and if there's a patch from the developer how do you install it? (I presume you can't install the patches from sony ericsson, I'm just asking). And how often does the developer release the patches?
And do I have to delete everything with a factory reset from my phone before I do ANYTHING? at which step should it be done? can I backup everything using backup and restore program that's already aboard the x10 and restore it later, or the program will disappear when I install a custom ROM? if it wont, will it bring back my sms and mms effectively, and applications too?
Try this, Wolfbreak's CM 6.1.3 V54(fully working, very stable froyo 2.2 rom with CyanogenMod settings and themes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028493
I'm definitely a fan of trips miui rom. He also just came out with a miui gingerbread rom, it's a bit unstable at this point though.
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use wolfbreak's latest rom. it's very stable with lots of things you can tweak and have fun with!
agentJBM said:
Try this, Wolfbreak's CM 6.1.3 V54(fully working, very stable froyo 2.2 rom with CyanogenMod settings and themes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028493
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+1 for wolfbreak's
Hi there, as you can see from my post count, I'm pretty new to this as well. I've only tried wolfbreak so far but am amazed at it's stability. As far as I've seen you will lose SMS etc however lots of things can be saved to the cloud, so first thing I'd do is make sure all contacts are marked as Google sync
I initially found the flashing to be problematic, but that was mostly because I was an idiot and failed to notice that the flashing software also adds functions such root access and xrecovery when the phone is NOT in flash mode. Since. Then I've been able to upgrade to the latest version (06) without even using a computer. Simply downloading the file onto my phone, moving it with the included file manager and rebooting to the recovery menu
I know have a faster more responsive phone with lots of added features such as Flash, Voice Search and loads more customization options. IMHO well worth the twenty minutes or so it will initially take
Make a note of your favourite apps as well, as the market only remembers paid for apps not your free ones, but for me the change over was pretty seamless and after only a day and a half with it am more than happy. So much stuff is held within the cloud that setting back up isn't the mega ballache it seems before doing it
Wolfbreak's ROM is the most 'fun' to use, the most tweaks avaliable
TripnMIUI's ROM is one you need if you just want your phone to work. Also, it has an iphone-like look (IMO I hate it, but some people like it)
Jereplea's Gingerbread mod is for those who want to be active in making the ROM better and test Gingerbread and custom kernels. It's not really that stable, but it's getting better by the day and it's the most updated ROM.
IMO those are the 3 big ROMS, there are smaller ones and you're free to check them out, they're pretty good too, but those are just my opinions on the top 3 ROMS.
cockbeard said:
Hi there, as you can see from my post count, I'm pretty new to this as well. I've only tried wolfbreak so far but am amazed at it's stability. As far as I've seen you will lose SMS etc however lots of things can be saved to the cloud, so first thing I'd do is make sure all contacts are marked as Google sync
I initially found the flashing to be problematic, but that was mostly because I was an idiot and failed to notice that the flashing software also adds functions such root access and xrecovery when the phone is NOT in flash mode. Since. Then I've been able to upgrade to the latest version (06) without even using a computer. Simply downloading the file onto my phone, moving it with the included file manager and rebooting to the recovery menu
I know have a faster more responsive phone with lots of added features such as Flash, Voice Search and loads more customization options. IMHO well worth the twenty minutes or so it will initially take
Make a note of your favourite apps as well, as the market only remembers paid for apps not your free ones, but for me the change over was pretty seamless and after only a day and a half with it am more than happy. So much stuff is held within the cloud that setting back up isn't the mega ballache it seems before doing it
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you can keep your sms, call logs, contacts by using mybackup root
Thank-you, that certainly makes me more tempted to try the other flavours out there, as I said I'm new to Android fiddling, appreciate the advice
Awesome ROM i'm using right now is Freex10 Beta 4 (Android 2.2), with the video recorder fixed. The ROM is stable and excellent. Runs really fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900441
Cyanogen 6.1.3 (gingerbread) by rendeiro2005
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947613
Cyanogen 6.1.3 (gingerbread) by rendeiro2005 with bitsnacker theme(go3easy)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1015765
If you want a really good looking ROM, try the Bitsnacker 2.1 rom. It is basically the stock rom with the bitsnacker blue glow theme.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1005636
If you mean THEMES, check the bitsnacker theme out for the x10 which works on android 2.1 stock and 2.2 Free X10 Beta 4 (for Freex10 ignore first post, check the second half way down the screen)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935187
Finding the links took me ages, i got them all mixed up
If you like, it plz thank
the answer will always be it depends on what you want from a device and its really your opinion and your opinion alone thatll lewt you decide
another +1 for tripnmiui's rom, pretty well featured
for me TripNMiui is always the best
TripNMiui with custum kernel
I'd say Wolfbreak's so far...
It runs flawlessly...
I've been testing many custom ROMs for a while, and up to now, the ones I liked the most are TripNMiUI's and Wolfbreak's ones. It's hard even to pick up one of them... TripNMiUI's has a great visual and is very clean. Wolfbreak's, in the other hand, works flawlessly and very stable, and I love that ARC's style.
Actually, I'm using Wolfbreak's now.
cockbeard said:
Hi there, as you can see from my post count, I'm pretty new to this as well. I've only tried wolfbreak so far but am amazed at it's stability. As far as I've seen you will lose SMS etc however lots of things can be saved to the cloud, so first thing I'd do is make sure all contacts are marked as Google sync
I initially found the flashing to be problematic, but that was mostly because I was an idiot and failed to notice that the flashing software also adds functions such root access and xrecovery when the phone is NOT in flash mode. Since. Then I've been able to upgrade to the latest version (06) without even using a computer. Simply downloading the file onto my phone, moving it with the included file manager and rebooting to the recovery menu
I know have a faster more responsive phone with lots of added features such as Flash, Voice Search and loads more customization options. IMHO well worth the twenty minutes or so it will initially take
Make a note of your favourite apps as well, as the market only remembers paid for apps not your free ones, but for me the change over was pretty seamless and after only a day and a half with it am more than happy. So much stuff is held within the cloud that setting back up isn't the mega ballache it seems before doing it
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Or use the app Titanium Backup to restore all apps and data when switching. Works like a charm for me.

[Q] BEST of the BEST!!!

Hello,
i rooted my phone not too long ago and i love it!!!! i tried BAMF 3.0 and i didnt like it much at all, it was choppy but i got it to be smooth with changing the cpu, well as of now i am just rooted and my question is: what apps do u recommend(rooted) ? i got rom manager already ^^ and also, what is some roms outs their that u like? and why? im looking for a new ROM but dont know where to continue xD
and also, is there an app that hides all my apps on my screens? ive searched but no luck, kind of like in which on a computer we can view, or not view desktop icons
As far as apps; Titanium Backup will let you back up apps and data, RootExporer will let you access files you couldn't otherwise (be careful with both, you can delete or uninstall things you shouldn't), wifi tether will let you tether over wifi I recommend version 2.0.7 (google it), those are the biggies anyways. Check my sig for my ROM recommendation, links included. This setup has offered bulletproof stability for me and the best battery life I've seen. Of course phones and opinion vary so try a few and see what you like. As far as that last part, I have no idea.
Are you talking about temporarily hiding the widgets and icons, per permanently?
If temporarily, why not just set up a blank screen? Stock sense came with several desktops with a widget, or two. All you'd have to is remove some not by long pressing on them.
Robert
[]QUOTE=fdp55;15629866]...is there an app that hides all my apps on my screens?[/B] ive searched but no luck, kind of like in which on a computer we can view, or not view desktop icons[/QUOTE]
Ty both of u, definitely will check ur info!
And I don't want to delete them permanently, just not visible, I've searched and I can't find any at all, and yea deleting is always good, I've just always like hiding icons on my computer, and i'd like to also on my tb xD
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if you mean hiding apps in the app drawer, I think you'll need a different launcher like LauncherPro or ADW. I don't know that there's any way to hide apps in the drawer of the sense launcher
OP, Das Bamf 3.0 is a great rom, but I don't like it either!
I have tried 6 roms on the TB and finally found the right one for me, which given your description sounds like it might be perfect for you as well.
Liquid Thunderbread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160637)
This is a VERY stripped down and fast rom. Also it is AOSP instead of Sense based and is only 66 mb!
It is awesomely fast and smooth without any of the BS, I seriously cannot recommend it enough. I like it so much that I made my first rom based donation to the developer and plan on doing so again if they continue updating.
Let me know what you think if you decide to give it a shot.
Im on synergy and i love it. its speedy quick but still lets you keep a lot of the fancy stuff. also the battery is great on 4g or 3g, wifi is a little lacking. and an app you should definitively download is setcpu ( i think its free if youve signed up for xda here) itll let you overclock or set up underlcoking for when your screen is off etc.
on my older incredible, i had an ad-block app (got it from the app market). it blocked the banner ads that are in a lot of the apps.

Install some MotoBlur on CM7?

im running CM7 on my Atrix, which is awesome, but i do miss a few of the MotoBlur features, such as the Locate My phone/lock out security things. is there anywhere i can download parts of motoblur to install back onto CM7?
thanks
ishamm said:
im running CM7 on my Atrix, which is awesome, but i do miss a few of the MotoBlur features, such as the Locate My phone/lock out security things. is there anywhere i can download parts of motoblur to install back onto CM7?
thanks
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This is the exact reason im not using CM7, if they could bring this feature I would use it but I doubt its going to happen because blur is not open source which makes porting any or all parts of it pretty much impossible.. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong.
ishamm said:
im running CM7 on my Atrix, which is awesome, but i do miss a few of the MotoBlur features, such as the Locate My phone/lock out security things. is there anywhere i can download parts of motoblur to install back onto CM7?
thanks
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No. There are other roms that will give you customization and Blur, though.
There are a lot of 'locate my phone' market apps
https://market.android.com/search?q=locate+phone&so=1&c=apps
One popular app with such a feature is Lookout Security & Antivirus. If you don't want the antivirus/wiping part, Where's my droid is way more simple and works nicely too.
thanks, thats a shame Blur is not opensource, i imagine if the devs here got hold of it it could be made awesome! which Roms do use it, and are comparable in performance/features to CM7, if there are any?
thanks
Aura is a great ROM. There is a Blur version which you would probably want, and also Accounts and Debloat versions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186990
ishamm said:
im running CM7 on my Atrix, which is awesome, but i do miss a few of the MotoBlur features, such as the Locate My phone/lock out security things. is there anywhere i can download parts of motoblur to install back onto CM7?
thanks
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Well, the easy part would be downloading parts of blur.
The HARD part, however, would be reintegrating all the frameworks and filelinks and etc etc etc etc into CM7 to actually have those parts work. It is so close to impossible to completely deblur a motoblur rom that it isn't worth the effort. The other direction is also true.
Your better off checking the market out for apps to see if you can replace those missing features without the hassle of trying to get MB back on first...
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which Roms do use it, and are comparable in performance/features to CM7, if there are any?
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I could be wrong - and if I am, I'm sure somebody will speak up, but in general, anything other than CM7 and other AOSP projects will be based on the motoblur framework. They may pull out apps and stuff, but the framework is there.
I think this would include things like Alien, Homebase, Aura, etc.
CM7 is built from the ground up, so it doesn't have all of the blur stuff in it.
A lot of the other ROMs have versions that are less deblurred or have separate downloads you can flash that will include some of the blur apps and functionality.
As far as performance, CM7 is the best I've run, but that makes sense because it is lightweight compared to ROMS that include all of the additional blur framework/functionality.
Of course on this phone, there really isn't any ROM I've used that seems "slow". For me it is more about preferences and features.
Home base is a good rom too, with bur and deblured versions.
If you can install blur, you drops all good things from cm7 ;-)
Enviado desde mi MB860 usando CM7
It comes down to two different types of roms aosp cm7 and miui (hopefully one day) or customized themed stock roms alien aura just try them and land on one you like
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http://seekdroid.com/ is by far the best phone-locate app for $.99. (EDIT: used to be $.99... guess it's $4.99 now)

A little overview on Custom Stable Roms vs Stock 2.1

Helo,
recnetly i have checked few roms and used for some time with stock kernel. I have tried Ginger DX, minicm7 v21. And here what conclution i came to:
Best rom is....stock one 2.1, no matter what features other roms do have still 2.1 is the best.
Why ? here is a lilttle overview what i think minicm7 and most of custom roms have better essential stuff than stock.
Advantages:
New android market
Battery life
New android version 2.3x
Flash Support
Better sound quality on video camera
Disadvantages:
Bad performance
roaming doesnt work properly (in some countries it connects to network in some it does not)
native thetering doesnt work
user interface just looks awful compared to original stock
Photo camera application (picture quality is just bad compared to stock)
Opera browser doesnt work stable
So i just pointed the things whom i think are really essential for a good rom.
Now a little notice about performance...
Dont be fools, do not believe that 2.3 has better performance than Stock.
IT DOES NOT
Only Quadrant scores are higher, but in practise performance is worse!
with same launcher pro and even less icons and widgets on minicm7 the performance is way worse than stock rom. For example if i want to give a call and open contacts i have to wait for a second at least to load contacts application, same with messages unless i kill all the tasks. I dont have this with stock rom. Another notice, if i use lets say Opera browser or Gameboid emulator and then go back to dekstop, widgets and icons always has to be re-drew per new. This doesnt happen on stock. Overal even with killed apps games on 2.3 are running worse then on stock 2.1 (Where is my water? Angry Birds, Gameboid, Snesoid).
So is it really worth to upgrade? I think no it is not worth to upgrade. Unless you die-hard need Flash Support and Video Camera sound. Then yes. For the rest, no i dont think so.
newestuser said:
Bad performance
roaming doesnt work properly (in some countries it connects to network in some it does not)
native thetering doesnt work
user interface just looks awful compared to original stock
Photo camera application (picture quality is just bad compared to stock)
Opera browser doesnt work stable
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bad performance - sorry but i do tweaks so mine is better than stock
roaming - dont need it
tethering - is there a native tether with stock?
awful interface - maybe but stock is well stock cant be changed
opera browser - mines doing great
I use MiniCM7 Pro V21 (By god Paul) on my phone and I'm just happy, stock user interface is so ugly compared to MiniCM7.
Only think I dont like is the Camera freezes sometimes while recording a video.
A Tribute to Blade Runner
After I discover XDA-developers ....
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe....... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion....... I watched C-beams glitter in the darkness at Tannhäuser Gate....... All those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain...... Time to die......
....Time to back to Stock 2.1......
Sorry, it's only a joke, all opinions are wellcome and very respectables but, after I read your post, this scene of Blade Runner return to my memory.
A little tribute to Bade Runner.....
I think Stock is best rom... No bugs + good performance(i dont think in games )
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Maybe, but on stock rom I can't connect via adhoc connection. I share internet connectio via notebook. And on stock rom it is imposible to connect on that type of wifi connection.
Also, I need ultra brightness, what is also weak point for stock rom.
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Yeah stock dont have usb and wifi tethering but in market u can find aps like EastTether or WifiTether.
And stock have best launcher for this device but I think this launhcer needs modification.I dont like this fact Only 1 widget at screen and no icons at screen.
Only corners
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I respect your opinion but I don't agree. Stock from is full of touch bugs, lacks dual touch, native tethering( works now with latest custom gb and ics nAa roms) . Also, we cannot remove some of the bloatware as it is attached to some .apk bundle and we could end in boot loop or even constant force close messages. I forgot to mention that /system has 20 mb only free so laggs are guaranteed... no apps to fat32 option. I tried many times to undervolt my stock roms with apps and .ko files etc. but didn't make it... stock battery life sucks.... gaming experience is cr4p.... I can't remember anything else cause I am on custom built roms many months now.... every opinion is well accepted.
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Custom > Stock.
Only if you understand well how the phone works and how to set the phone's settings and features to it's minimum or maximum performance. And also, if you managed to tweak the phone to it's best performance.
Else, Stock is the best and only option for you.
Also @ OP, those disadvantages you pointed out, on the latest stable custom ROMS out there, all of it works fine now. Except ICS, still has work to be done with that version.
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Stock is nice but i think the custom rom's have more advantages that cover its disadvantages.
As for me the only disadvantage in custom rom's would be the hopeless battery life.
Mashun99 said:
Stock is nice but i think the custom rom's have more advantages that cover its disadvantages.
As for me the only disadvantage in custom rom's would be the hopeless battery life.
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not really i believe you can use governors in custom roms but not in stock rom. thats why i have custom rom so i can use governors and apps to sd
Prefer custom
I've been using custom Roms for a very long time, now.
I must say that, even though custom roms have some bugs, stock rom has some bugs also. And it lacks some features, which I consider essential.
The most important is the ability of saving apps in SD card. I know (and I've used it) there's link2SD, but I needed to root my device as well. Link2SD was very unstable.
Stock lacks flash and some apps won't run under 2.1.
Battery life? The same.
Stock apps? Great looks, I'll give them that. But some are very basic.
I needed to install some apps that come with custom roms. I prefer to install custom rom.
The main app, to me, is phone/contacts. Stock app is lame.
Will stick to cm7-2.2.0, for now.
Sorry to disagree in every point. I have a x10 mini (not pro).
I couldn't find a single advantage on the stock rom over the custom miniCM7 (2.2.1).
The stock 2.1 rom feels like a slower CPU and GPU, it's sluggish and lags to the touch. I think the interface is OK, with the corner shortcuts and the bigger icons. It was well designed, but I always end up unintentionally arrainging icons in the menus and the corner shortcuts because of the lag. Applications are painfully slow, including the dialer. As a windows computer: when I fresh install (factory reset) the mini, it's fairly responsive, but as soon as I install half a dozen apps it gets sluggish again.
Bad performance?
-no, much better responsiveness and performance with miniCM7 even with lots of apps installed.
roaming doesnt work properly (in some countries it connects to network in some it does not)
-This one I can't tell
native thetering doesnt work
-stock has none.
user interface just looks awful compared to original stock
-matter of taste maybe. I like the new UI better all the way.
Photo camera application (picture quality is just bad compared to stock)
-Maybe in older versions? this one works better, and now I can have instagram.
Opera browser doesnt work stable
-It works fine here.
I am a little dazzled because, in my x10 mini, things are about opposite. Everything is just smoother with the new rom, and the old rom fails me exactly in the way the new rom fails to you: it's unresponsive, slow, annoying, glitchy. Maybe it's just personal taste, or something is different between our phones.

[Need Advice] Best Camera Solution

Hey guys, I'm going back to the Photon as my daily for awhile and the one thing I remember being a PITA was the camera. Has anyone learned of any flashable .zips or apps that work particularly well for our phone in terms of speed and quality.
Thanks all.
abowlby said:
Hey guys, I'm going back to the Photon as my daily for awhile and the one thing I remember being a PITA was the camera. Has anyone learned of any flashable .zips or apps that work particularly well for our phone in terms of speed and quality.
Thanks all.
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Procapture or camera360 for taking pictures. PerfectlyClear for post processing.
Camera360 getsmy vote. There is no good camcorder app for our cm9/10 builds.
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Run CM7. If your Photon is only going to be your daily phone for a while, use CM7. Camera and camcorder work fine there. If you use Holo Launcher (free version is fine) you can even recreate most of the 4.x look. You miss out on the persistent Search on the home screens, Google Now, and the spell checker. Oh, and the fancy settings. CM7 is a very mature ROM and it shows.
Not taking anything away from our CM9/CM10 devs, as they do good work, but if you need a camera (especially video), CM7 is what you want. You can always make a Nandroid backup of your CM9 or CM10 setup, set up CM7 how you want, Nandroid that, and go back and forth.
Dark Reality said:
Run CM7. If your Photon is only going to be your daily phone for a while, use CM7. Camera and camcorder work fine there. If you use Holo Launcher (free version is fine) you can even recreate most of the 4.x look. You miss out on the persistent Search on the home screens, Google Now, and the spell checker. Oh, and the fancy settings. CM7 is a very mature ROM and it shows.
Not taking anything away from our CM9/CM10 devs, as they do good work, but if you need a camera (especially video), CM7 is what you want. You can always make a Nandroid backup of your CM9 or CM10 setup, set up CM7 how you want, Nandroid that, and go back and forth.
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Yeah, my old lady had this phone for awhile and she updated it 2.5.5 (?) so I suppose it cannot be unlocked for the time being. CM7 sounds really good, but my only other issue is - I have great WiMax coverage. I'll give Camera 360 a spin for now and see what becomes of it. Thanks to everyone who replied.

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