Ok I'm all set now, I got everything flashed, but now I sill have question.
I started with the ENG H boot then I wen to the safer hacked one.
I'm looking for ROMS now and they have a PH98IMG file. Is that the kernel or updated firmware? I wouldn't want to flash different firmware right?
also what about the old firmware patch for ICS roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614180
Do I need to be using that as Im still on the GM H boot?
and finally what about mainver errors? since Im s off will that still warn me?
I just want to be careful not to do anything I shouldn't now that most of the safety nets are gone.
Also sorry of my questions are silly, its late at work and I've been starting at this screen all day. Its time to go.
thanks
loki993 said:
Ok I'm all set now, I got everything flashed, but now I sill have question.
I started with the ENG H boot then I wen to the safer hacked one.
I'm looking for ROMS now and they have a PH98IMG file. Is that the kernel or updated firmware? I wouldn't want to flash different firmware right?
also what about the old firmware patch for ICS roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614180
Do I need to be using that as Im still on the GM H boot?
and finally what about mainver errors? since Im s off will that still warn me?
I just want to be careful not to do anything I shouldn't now that most of the safety nets are gone.
Also sorry of my questions are silly, its late at work and I've been starting at this screen all day. Its time to go.
thanks
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ROMs generally will never have firmware present unless it specifically states otherwise (perhaps somebody will release one after an OTA if there's a new firmware update). Prior to last week, we all had S-ON (well most of us) so all ROMs came with a script that would dump the boot.img (kernel and RAMdisk) into a PH98IMG.zip, then reboot to bootloader so you can flash it.
Use the old firmware patch for ICS ROMs only if you are on HBOOT 2.11 or lower.
I'm not sure about mainver issues... I don't think they matter now... but if you do get that error there's a simple fix thats been around for awhile.
I am on 2.11 so I would need the patch. Is it ok to use even it I'm not on am ics Rom, should I flash it just in case or wait until I need it.
Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about the mainver. Not sure either though
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loki993 said:
I am on 2.11 so I would need the patch. Is it ok to use even it I'm not on am ics Rom, should I flash it just in case or wait until I need it.
Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about the mainver. Not sure either though
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The patch is apart of the system so you only flash it when you are going to run a ics Rom based on the ics firmware. You already have the patch files in the Rom you are running if its GB. But when you flash a new Rom the system is wiped which is why you need to flash the patch. I hope I explained that ok.
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Thanks for this thread, answered some of my nagging questions
Andro X said:
The patch is apart of the system so you only flash it when you are going to run a ics Rom based on the ics firmware. You already have the patch files in the Rom you are running if its GB. But when you flash a new Rom the system is wiped which is why you need to flash the patch. I hope I explained that ok.
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I understand, its ok. You right though dont know what I was thinking, of course the system gets wiped.
Im debating which ROM to run now. I was going to go with one of the BAMFs, but I also would mind a senseless ROM either.
Is it wrong that I actually kinda like Sense, I just wish it didnt bog the phone at times.
Also I thinking its probably best to say on the 2.11 firmware, that way I can still run GB if I want and go to ICS ROMS too if I want with the patch.
I like sense too especially since this is my first HTC phone so its something different for me. I had Motorola's in the past. I'm on GB firmware with the eng hboot and running ics Clean Rom.
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Well Sense is certainly an upgrade for me from TouchWiz....I miss a few things but overall it is better...
I think you would be happy with CleanROM, extremely fast and reliable ICS build. You would never know it wasn't stock.
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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Geoi1006 said:
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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Not sure about MT4G, but I don't think the control bear program can access everything it needs on the Rezound without being unlocked. Just a guess mind you .
Geoi1006 said:
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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You have to be rooted to acquire s-off. Up until this point you had to be unlocked to acquire root. Now, if you are s-off you can root without unlocking. It's a vicious circle! Lol!
I just haven't gotten to unlock since I don't have home internet access
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S-OFF DEVICES ONLY
I WILL ONLY SAY THIS ONCE, IF YOU HAVE DATA ISSUES FROM SWITCHING FIRMWARES YOU MUST FLASH THE STOCK RECOVERY AND PERFORM A FACTORY RESET IN HBOOT
DO NOT S-ON THE ENG OR JB HBOOT OR IT WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE
ANYTHING DONE AT THIS POINT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY NOT MINE
So what is this?
Well ill answer that, these are Hboot/Radio/Firmware Combos
What do you do with these?
The purpose of these is avoid performing a full RUU if you would like to upgrade or downgrade firmwares/radios
So why do these include Hboot/radio/firmware files, cant we just flash the radios?
NO, mix and matching all of these has be known to cause data issues. Its best to flash the whole set to prevent data issues
How do you flash these?
Assuming you checked the MD5 sum, just rename these to PH98IMG.zip and place on the root of your external sdcard
New firmware patch huh?
This is simply for those upgrading to ICS firmware on a GB rom Or and ICS rom that had the gingerbread patch flashed over it
Whats the difference between the stock Hboots and the JB/ENG Hboots?
Simply, These Hboots have fastboot commands enabled WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader
I suggest if you use fastboot alot to use these hboots
Thanks to CharliesTheMan i now have a spot on AndroidFileHost
Heres how to tell which file you need
Each file will be named accordingly
[Firmware][Hboot version][JB or Stock hboot][Date of leak if applicable]
So an example would be [GB][2.11][JB]PH98IMG.zip
i suggest you check the MD5 and if you dont know what an MD5 is then you need to research what it is before flashing any of these
Here's the Link: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=3054
Thanks to the JuopunutBear Team for getting us S-off, Jcase for the leaked Hboot
Very very nice. Thank you. Flash this and a GB rom, and it's on old firmware.
superchilpil said:
Since i didnt want to run the gingerbread ruu and mess with nandroiding back to get the eng hboot i made this
This is the eng hboot bundled up with the old firmware, you ust use the old firmware patch to run ics roms after flashing this
just place it on the root of your sd card, rename, and reboot to hboot
It will reboot once during the flash this is normal
DISCLAIMER: IT IS NOT MY FAULT IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE DOING THIS, YOU MUST BE S-OFF AND AS ALWAYS CHECK THE MD5 SUM
DOWNLOAD:http://www.mediafire.com/?4i8sfbj74a9xqzb
MD5:10005eafcdc1e242d9d8ed91b7d68210
OLD FIRMWARE PATCH: http://www.mediafire.com/?8v3a2al9129gp9h
Credits go to Jcase for the hboot, and to whom ever made the old firmware patch
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This is what I've been running by default after s-off. Has been rock solid. Don't think I'll change for now as many are having issues and/or experimenting. I'll just wait and see what people come up with. Great job in doing this...
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How's battery life ? Will flash later.
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jclendineng said:
How's battery life ? Will flash later.
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So far I'd have to say it's better, and it nay just be me but everything seems smother overall
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Thanks man! Set this up with Newts XxX rom and having no problems! I am pretty new to HTC phones coming from a DroidX. How do I know if the ENG installed correctly? I know the old firmware is loaded up right.
ih8mydroid said:
Thanks man! Set this up with Newts XxX rom and having no problems! I am pretty new to HTC phones coming from a DroidX. How do I know if the ENG installed correctly? I know the old firmware is loaded up right.
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The hboot will say ENG S-OFF near the top.
con247 said:
The hboot will say ENG S-OFF near the top.
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Con with the answers. Sweet! This works like a charm!
This works perfectly and i do think i notice a slight smoother response on most things then before plus the radios like me again. Awesome job
on a side note : con247 every time i see you post something i look at your speedtest sig and get so jealous and angry at the same time since i cant get anything over 8 mbit upload (and that's business class internet) where im at.... kudos to you and fml lol
jclendineng said:
How's battery life ? Will flash later.
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Seems better....and I've been using the phone more lately on 4G....but who knows.
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dajmanjt said:
This works perfectly and i do think i notice a slight smoother response on most things then before plus the radios like me again. Awesome job
on a side note : con247 every time i see you post something i look at your speedtest sig and get so jealous and angry at the same time since i cant get anything over 8 mbit upload (and that's business class internet) where im at.... kudos to you and fml lol
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Kudos to his University's internet connection? Show me what you have at home....
So if we are on ICS, we flash this to get back to GB?
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i'm assuming since it's locked but with s-off we need to unlock the bootloader with htc again right? also the patch works but cache still doesnt mount right
retepdgp said:
So if we are on ICS, we flash this to get back to GB?
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This will only downgrade your firmware. Your rom should be left intact. However you will need to flash the GB firmware patch over your rom immediately after doing this or you will have problems. If you want to downgrade android itself, flash a gb rom after doing this or just flash the whole gb ruu
retepdgp said:
So if we are on ICS, we flash this to get back to GB?
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this is the hboot for gb or ics depending on which rom you are using or about to install. the firmware patch is to fix most mounts if using ics roms
Thanks guys. So IF I also run the Firmware patch (For ICS) would it still work for a GB ROM?
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dyetheskin said:
this is the hboot for gb or ics depending on which rom you are using or about to install. the firmware patch is to fix most mounts if using ics roms
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The firmware patch also fixes an audio lib that causes constant reboots.
I am on stock rooted 2.01 with all original firmware. If I use both of the files is the OP along with one of the ICS roms will everything work correctly? If not what would I need to do? I would prefer to stay on the GB firmware as I have been getting great service, 3g and 4G speeds.
dyetheskin said:
i'm assuming since it's locked but with s-off we need to unlock the bootloader with htc again right? also the patch works but cache still doesnt mount right
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Seriously.... People when you S-OFF YOU DO NOT HAVE TO UNLOCK YOU BOOTLOADER!!!!! S-OFF = UNLOCKED IS THIS EVERYONE'S FIRST PHONE?!?!?!
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Clay333 said:
I am on stock rooted 2.01 with all original firmware. If I use both of the files is the OP along with one of the ICS roms will everything work correctly? If not what would I need to do? I would prefer to stay on the GB firmware as I have been getting great service, 3g and 4G speeds.
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If your stock then you don't need to flash the hboot file unless you just want the eng hboot, you could just use cons for that
This is meant to downgrade those who upgraded their firmware to the new ics leak
But if you just want to run an ics Rom with the old firmware then just flash the patch in recovery and you should be good
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I have s off but my phone says locked. Is that normal or do I need to unlock again?
I want to flash Scotts new roms and just curious.
thanks
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No DO NOT unlock because if you do, you will need to S-on before you are able to re-lock and return your phone to stock.
You need to flash the patched HBOOT for whichever firmware you are currently running (GB or ICS) and the "locked" will go away in addition to full use of fastboot commands.
Or just flash amonra as a ph98img.zip file.... After that just download a rom and boot to recovery and flash the new rom from there.
Definitely don't unlock though... If you do you will always show unlocked or relocked.
I had to s on then back off because I made that mistake and unlocked when it first came out. If you don't use adb commands there's no real reason to switch hboot.
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Edit: swifkey sucks with typos lol
I thought you needed to be unlocked to do s-off? Or does s-off change
Phaded said:
I thought you needed to be unlocked to do s-off? Or does s-off change
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You do need unlocked to do it but when you get s off your phone goes to locked unless you flash the correct hboot
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So witch hboot is the correct one? My fiance just got this phone and due to her horrible computer I spent 6.5 hours doing everything up to this point this evening.. I installed Scott's newest ROM... Just wondering where to go from here and **IF** its possible to OC on this ROM? I have the worst phone ever DX2, but this is my 3'rd android phone and am decently well aware of the android O.S.
Thanks ~ Jake
EDIT: I also understand the search function, however, this forum is so vast I simply don't have the time to read 100+ pages per post to find one line of information ... sorry if its a dumb or -noob- question... thanks again
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Jacob.pel said:
So witch hboot is the correct one? My fiance just got this phone and due to her horrible computer I spent 6.5 hours doing everything up to this point this evening.. I installed Scott's newest ROM... Just wondering where to go from here and **IF** its possible to OC on this ROM? I have the worst phone ever DX2, but this is my 3'rd android phone and am decently well aware of the android O.S.
Thanks ~ Jake
EDIT: I also understand the search function, however, this forum is so vast I simply don't have the time to read 100+ pages per post to find one line of information ... sorry if its a dumb or -noob- question... thanks again
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Depends on which firmware you are on and what you want to do. You can simply do the S-off process without flashing the jb hboot to get to S-off. Then flash recovery in your bootloader (use a PH98IMG.zip) to be able to flash your Rom. If you want fastboot commands while still being locked, either use the jb hboot or the modified hboot in the dev section, depending on your current hboot version.
You can OC the phone, but ICS kernels have perflock enabled, so scaling doesn't work great. Options are better on GB.
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Im currently s-on unlocked running Clean rom 4.5 developers edition and my hboot version is 2.10 with the GB patch. I've been thinking about attempting s-off but so far the one step I need to figure out is how to get back to a stock gb or ics rom (prerequisite to performing s-off I believe)
What are my options here? Do I need to re-lock my phone, run a ruu, then unlock again?
Is there a zip file I can flash to get a stock rom loaded without re-locking then unlocking?
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
Jbear s-off wants a stock rooted phone because it is too much for their tech support people to deal with all the many ROMs in existence.
A Rom that is close to stock like cleanrom has a good chance of working with the jbear s-off process, but I do not know for sure.
Since you have gingerbread firmware, you should use the gingerbread rezound jbear download, IF you decide to attempt it.
On the other hand we have official ics now, and you might as well move onto it rather than using gingerbread firmware and a ROM that will never get updated because the author moved on to buy a different smart phone.
The ics ruu will do a factory reset and wipe the internal sdcard. The removable microSD card should be left untouched. you will need to relock the bootloader to run the ruu, but it easy to relock with hansoon's all in one toolkit if you have saved your htcdev.com unlock bin file.
Here is the official ics ruu file, if you decide to install it.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...cream-sandwich-ruu-for-final-ota-3-14-605-12/
regards,
Howard
Thanks for the response! I've downloaded the ruu for ics & I still have the htc unlock code. I will give this a try hopefully this weekend
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Is juniperbear working on a S-Off file for the newest RUU 4.03.605.2 or should we just use the 3.14 to get S-off then install the newest RUU 4.03
troy7548 said:
Is juniperbear working on a S-Off file for the newest RUU 4.03.605.2 or should we just use the 3.14 to get S-off then install the newest RUU 4.03
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I was on 605.2 when I used juniperbear's method.
I recommend using an insulated paper clip. I got s-off after 2 tries on my wife's phone.
Which download from juopuntobear did you use with the 605.2 ics?
It doesn't look like it is supported on their site...
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bkhorn said:
I was on 605.2 when I used juniperbear's method.
I recommend using an insulated paper clip. I got s-off after 2 tries on my wife's phone.
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I tried a paperclip and it would not take. I ended up using a piece of 20 gauge wire from an old RC battery pack. Worked then.
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Anyone? Which jupontobear download do you use with the latest 605.2 ics?
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1967ls2 said:
Anyone? Which jupontobear download do you use with the latest 605.2 ics?
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the one for ics .5
Perfect, I will make sure to download that one when trying this.
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Alright, I got my refurb, and have unlocked it. It has the .12 Firmware. I can't find a simple way to root the new firmware. Nils 1 click root isn't helping. What can i do to root it. I have Amonra Recovery, and stock rom..Any help is appreciated.
Download superSU and flash in amonra. You should be good to go.
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I had been reading so many different guides that I was suffering from information overload. I couldn't believe I overlooked something so simple. Thanks for the,quick reply, and it shows it doesn't take someone with a lot of posts to help someone who usually is a old hat at this.
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confused semi-noob, please help
Currently running rezrom ex v.3.4 with ics 3.11.605.22. I have seen this question asked a few times in different places throughout the forum but am still a little unsure as to what is best or whether it matters at all. I've heard it is best to return to stock rom before attempting s-off but I've also heard that others with my rom have not had any problems. So if I s-off with my current rom, and it works, I will still have root and be able to flash the most current ruu, right? Where as if I were to try to flash the most current ruu now, I would have to first relock the bootloader, then once on the new ruu, I would have to unlock from htcdev again and flash amon ra again and re-root before being able to s-off. If I have this right, then there is no real downside (besides it possibly not working) to trying to s-off now with my current rom. In fact, it would be less time consuming and less confusing, correct? I've been trying to read everything possible on getting my phone to s-off, but I think at this point, I'm just getting more confused with the more I read.
I wish I had an answer for you. Im in the same boat as you, read a lot, still confused.
I think im in boat number two, re lock, flash newest ics ruu, unlock, try to s-off, but what im not 100% sure of is which juopuntobear to download & use.
Post back in the thread if you are able to s-off with the rom your running. Maybe I will try with the rom im running & just say screw it.
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You are supposed to use the version that is current with the ruu that your running. For instance, mine is the early ics leak. If you update to a more current ruu when reverting to stock, you should choose one that jb made a exploit for (v. 3.13..., or 3.14...). Of course, I'm still semi-noon so this is just my best educated guess from my studying of these forums. I would be very grateful if one of the devs would correct me though... Please.
i did it!
So I decided to s-off with my current Rom installed. It worked but my phone didn't recognize my ext sd. I tried all the fixes available and nothing worked, so instead, I flashed the newest ruu. That fixed my problem but I didn't have recovery anymore. I found a ph98img for an older version of amon ra and replaced the IMG file in the zip with a recent version and edited the text file to show my current mainver. I flashed the new ph98img rough bootloader and now have amon ra and was able to flash a new Rom. The reason I used a ph98img was because I was no longer around a pc to flash it through fastboot. It all worked great but took a bit of time.
Nice! Glad it all worked out. I guess I would need to download juopuntobear for gb & try that.maybe I will give it a try.
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Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
Why did HTC update hboot 1.15? Because they discovered an exploit flaw that we could gain S-OFF with, which is FAR better than being on HTC Dumlock. If you are not concerned with obtaining S-OFF via LazyPanda and the like, this should not be a concern.
Also, being on the new hboot means that backwards compatibility to ROMs that are not based on the new OTA could become an issue.
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New h boot for you only means that you won't be able to get s-off for a very long time probably since nobody has figured out how to even s-off h boot 1.15 yet. You shouldn't have an issue flashing any rom from my understanding as long as it's through recovery.
Edit : I would listen to Michael on this one regarding ROMs sounds like he knows more lol.
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natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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Yes, you will be stuck flashing 2.13 roms with the 2.13 kernel. However, you can use one of the workaround methods (fastboot, flash image gui, twrp dumlock) to flashing an older kernel, and then flash roms based on a previous OTA base.
A ROM doesn't include an HBoot though, so there shouldn't be ROM/HBoot compatibility issues, right?
No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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I don't think that's quite right (I could be wrong though).
If he wants to flash a JB-based ROM, he will definitely have to flash the boot.img separately via one of the workarounds mentioned.
If he wants to move between Sense-based ROMs, he *might* be OK. But he will not get any tweaks the dev may have made to the kernel included with his respective ROM.
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Got it. I thought you were replying in general.
natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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I'd like to re-root after taking the OTA and I've searched all over for the instructions on how to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot, but can't find it. Can you assist?
Thanks
Rxpert said:
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
pbarrett said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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That's true for 1.12, since it allows you to flash kernels through recovery. The newer versions don't. That's the reason for using the fastboot or dumlock workarounds. That being said, I haven't heard anyone confirm yet that these methods still work on 1.19...I'm interested to know.
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
om4 said:
I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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From what I can tell... No. You have to run HTC Dev first in order to get to where you can load a recovery program at which point you will have already had to wipe your phone to factory defaults.
It's unfortunate and the main reason I waited so long to unlock this way but as previously stated, Sense 4.1 was too hard to pass on
om4 said:
I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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no, I let her take my phone for the weekend. she went camping with her her family and I dont feel comfortable knowing shes out in the middle of no where without a phone. her phone was disconnected because she lost her job 2 months ago and Im not about to pay $135 on top of my own bill
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Mine doesn't even know how to use my phone...it's "confusing". IPhone ftw
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pbarrett said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Yes, every ROM includes a kernel.
But Hboot 1.15 and above do not let you flash things to the boot partition in recovery. The kernel goes in the boot partition. So you can't flash kernels normally through recovery.
If your on a sense ROM and flash an AOSP rom, the phone wont boot
If your on an AOSP ROM and flash a sense ROM, the phone wont boot
If your on an old base and flash a new base, the ROM will have issues (if it even boots)
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-wip.html
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Next, we are going to hear crap like, "my pet hamster ate my nandroid thumb drive."
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I have a question.. I am s on hboot 1.15 htc dev unlocked. I want to run meanrom 3.6 but it is based off the new update. I have read you can use fast boot or flash gui to flash the kernel and than flash the Rom after that. Question is.. Is this true for my setup and is there any concern about not having actually updated everything on the update? I read stuff about a Rom or base mismatch issue..Thanks for any help..
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cherylbaker said:
I have a question.. I am s on hboot 1.15 htc dev unlocked. I want to run meanrom 3.6 but it is based off the new update. I have read you can use fast boot or flash gui to flash the kernel and than flash the Rom after that. Question is.. Is this true for my setup and is there any concern about not having actually updated everything on the update? I read stuff about a Rom or base mismatch issue..Thanks for any help..
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You got it...just fastboot flash the boot.img from the ROM, then flash the ROM in recovery and you should be all set. You shouldn't need to install the latest firmware for it to work, but it's probably recommended. That being said, since you're s-on you won't be able to anyway. Should be fine with just the kernel and ROM.
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Thanks
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If you are having issues though before you decide to take that awful journey of relocking unrooting to take that ota stop and think of the consequences and the possibility of never being able to obtain s-off...from what im reading the new base aint that exciting anyways
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time for shameless self promotion, albeit very late. i have written a short guide that explains most of the basics for flash root and recovery and i will probably update it with basic troubleshooting scenarios but then again i may not but its very thorough information
om4 said:
time for shameless self promotion, albeit very late. i have written a short guide that explains most of the basics for flash root and recovery and i will probably update it with basic troubleshooting scenarios but then again i may not but its very thorough information
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U just want all the credit dont you lol j/p
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wileout said:
U just want all the credit dont you lol j/p
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The new radio kicks but. Solves most or all problems with LTE. The dream of s-off for hboot 1.15 is a fantasy. Even the developer for Meanrom decided it wasn't worth waiting for an s-off that will probably never come and took the latest ota to bring his new phone up to date with the complete firmware package. Mikey was s-off and completely bricked his phone by accidentally putting the old firmware zip on his sdcard and flashed it. His replacement phone came with 1.12 and instead of going with s-off he decided to take the ota and keep it s-on. That way, he will have to flash just like the 1000 other users that use his rom. Yes, I am happy I am s-off, but if you aren't, you might as well get the full use of your phone and take the ota, unlock your phone again, and install MeanRom.
Those people that chime in and say the latest ota isn't worth it sure haven't tried it. This phone is so smooth now it is indescribable. The radios alone are worth it, but HTC did a great job with this update. Sense 4.1 and Android 4.04 are a grat combination.
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Are you still s-off with all the latest firmware and base Rom?
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