*Update*
Well, it's out, been released and paraded about for all to see. So, what's the general consensus? Personally I'm stuck as to whether this is flop or just meh. I'm leaning towards meh.. I'm also stuck directly between the HOX and the SIII. The One X not only looks better but has a nicer screen. The SGSIII has everything else... well you compromise with every purchase right? Can't wait to read more in depth reviews.
I really hope it doesn't, personally, cause while I'm no manufacturer's fanboy I do have a good track record with Samsung.
http://www.landofdroid.com/2012/galaxy-if/
But this is asks the question Can samsung afford to flop?
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I can say one thing is that by amount of hype Samsung is creating/generating, I am sure it will be a decent upgrade from S2. They will never do that if they knew it's going to be a minor upgrade.
Also I believe they will try to add some other added options to make the May 3 event more attractive. One for sure is the Cloud service from Samsung. 2nd (as per rumours) will be the release of high-end Tab/Note to compete in the iPad territory. All their previous Tabs launched this year were mainly for budget conscious customers, I think it would be great platform for launching their high-end Tabs.
They are aggressively pushing for the Tab/Note market. They had a S-Pen app contest ($205,000 prize money) which just finished. Now they have a new App contest from May, bounty this time increased to 4 million.
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I can say one thing is that by amount of hype Samsung is creating/generating, I am sure it will be a decent upgrade from S2. They will never do that if they knew it's going to be a minor upgrade.
Also I believe they will try to add some other added options to make the May 3 event more attractive. One for sure is the Cloud service from Samsung. 2nd (as per rumours) will be the release of high-end Tab/Note to compete in the iPad territory. All their previous Tabs launched this year were mainly for budget conscious customers, I think it would be great platform for launching their high-end Tabs.
They are aggressively pushing for the Tab/Note market. They had a S-Pen app contest ($205,000 prize money) which just finished. Now they have a new App contest from May, bounty this time increased to 4 million.
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Very true! One thing I would love to see would be a conectivity between the new Galaxy Phone and the Tab. Kind of like what Palm/HP was aiming for with the Pre 3 and the Touchpad. Some kind of built in effortless tap to share, and sharing of notifications and such.
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I highly doubt it. Samsung have created a huge customer base with the SG2 and more than likely most eventually upgrade to the SG3. Best phone I ever had and will undoubtedly get the new galaxy because I have been impressed with the quality of my previous samsung phones unlike the poor htc one x i recently upgraded to after being too impatient to wait for the galaxy s3
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I highly doubt it. Samsung have created a huge customer base with the SG2 and more than likely most eventually upgrade to the SG3. Best phone I ever had and will undoubtedly get the new galaxy because I have been impressed with the quality of my previous samsung phones unlike the poor htc one x i recently upgraded to after being too impatient to wait for the galaxy s3
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I hear you. I had the SGSII as well (The sprint version) and I actually plan on importing the International quad core version of the SGSIII. Like I said I've had really good experiences with the Galaxy S line in general so I have high hopes
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But where does its room for error appear? It’s GPU is still an unknown. Some are speculating that it may use the sam processor as the SGSII’s MALI 400 and simply over clock it. Now that may not be a horrible solution, as this GPU is quite good, but it’s not ideal. It’s competition in this area is the Nvidia Tegra 3 and it’s mighty proprietary GPU. Not to mention the GPU that the iPhone 5 will carry which is rumored to be on par with the Tegra 3. Here’s hoping Samsung steps up.
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Why do you write such things? Samsung have confirmed back at WDC in Barcelona in February that the 4412 will have a Mali 400; furthermore it's been leaked in the kernel source code since the beginning of March, and I specifically confirmed the 440MHz clocks @ Beyond3D three and a half weeks ago.
The Tegra 3 GPU is not a mighty GPU. It's the same GPU they've had since Tegra 1 with the only change being that it's been getting more computational units thrown at and the frequency upped with each revision since then, both in Tegra 2 and Tegra 3. It is an extremely old design which will and is outperformed; and not only by a simply slightly overclocked Mali, but also an iPhone 4, no need to talk even about the iPhone 5. Tegra 4 will finally have a new GPU architecture.
There's no need to be a manufacturer's fanboy or even any kind of insider, but as an author of a tech site it takes roughly an hour to Google this stuff before writing such an article to get some simple facts straight.
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Why do you write such things? Samsung have confirmed back at WDC in Barcelona in February that the 4412 will have a Mali 400; furthermore it's been leaked in the kernel source code since the beginning of March, and I specifically confirmed the 440MHz clocks @ Beyond3D three and a half weeks ago.
The Tegra 3 GPU is not a mighty GPU. It's the same GPU they've had since Tegra 1 with the only change being that it's been getting more computational units thrown at and the frequency upped with each revision since then, both in Tegra 2 and Tegra 3. It is an extremely old design which will and is outperformed; and not only by a simply slightly overclocked Mali, but also an iPhone 4, no need to talk even about the iPhone 5. Tegra 4 will finally have a new GPU architecture.
There's no need to be a manufacturer's fanboy or even any kind of insider, but as an author of a tech site it takes roughly an hour to Google this stuff before writing such an article to get some simple facts straight.
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Indeed. I'm quite surprised to see the tegra3 devices marginally beating the current Mali400MP equipped devices in some graphics bench (nenamark2) comes to mind
Actually I believe most specs are already known, and from the past (SI and SII), there aren't many surprises, and usually Samsung is very predictable.
My question is, will it be breathtaking?
I really hope so, but...
SI featured - first smartphone with 4" super amoled + 720p recording + 1Ghz processor etc...
SII featured - first smartphone with 4,3" super amoled plus + 1080p recording + 1.2 dual core processor etc...
SIII - most known specs are already out there (ex. quad core) with HTC, or HD super amoled screen already on Nexus, I really can't find anything outstanding in my point of view.
Well I really hope they have a multiple device release. Like a version that has a dual core and a quad core version. Because if they only release a dual core in the US and and neither come to Verizon I am going to be very upset. The performance of the Galaxy Nexus is disappointing. I need a device that had high Open GL performance and the Nexus does not.
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Why do you write such things? Samsung have confirmed back at WDC in Barcelona in February that the 4412 will have a Mali 400; furthermore it's been leaked in the kernel source code since the beginning of March, and I specifically confirmed the 440MHz clocks @ Beyond3D three and a half weeks ago.
The Tegra 3 GPU is not a mighty GPU. It's the same GPU they've had since Tegra 1 with the only change being that it's been getting more computational units thrown at and the frequency upped with each revision since then, both in Tegra 2 and Tegra 3. It is an extremely old design which will and is outperformed; and not only by a simply slightly overclocked Mali, but also an iPhone 4, no need to talk even about the iPhone 5. Tegra 4 will finally have a new GPU architecture.
There's no need to be a manufacturer's fanboy or even any kind of insider, but as an author of a tech site it takes roughly an hour to Google this stuff before writing such an article to get some simple facts straight.
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Thank you for pointing this out. Honestly, thank you. When I was doing my research for the article I looked mainly at benchmarks and honestly just scoured forums for posts by people such as yourself who are clearly knowledgeable about these things. But, what I was able to find was pointing to the general consensus of the T3 GPU being rock solid and the best so far. Ultimately its about end performance, and I used gaming as my main point, one only needing to look at Shadowgun THD to see how much different the experience is. And while one can and will argue that games are being optimized for it, it's also true that Nvidia is optimizing their GPU as well, and doing so in a way that few others are doing. So when I say that I hope Samsung steps up, I mean to say that I want to see more than an overclocked GPU from last year's model put into it.
I'm not knocking the SGSIII, I want one. And I wasn't implying that Samsung is going to flop either, or at least, I can attest to the fact that I wasn't trying to. I was simply stating that Samsung needs a huge win here if they want to keep market share and mind share. Looking at the big picture.
Thank you, though, for pointing that out about the T3 GPU. I'm going to do the research you mentioned to become a little more acquainted with it
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pacc said:
Actually I believe most specs are already known, and from the past (SI and SII), there aren't many surprises, and usually Samsung is very predictable.
My question is, will it be breathtaking?
I really hope so, but...
SI featured - first smartphone with 4" super amoled + 720p recording + 1Ghz processor etc...
SII featured - first smartphone with 4,3" super amoled plus + 1080p recording + 1.2 dual core processor etc...
SIII - most known specs are already out there (ex. quad core) with HTC, or HD super amoled screen already on Nexus, I really can't find anything outstanding in my point of view.
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Lol and that's one of the points I was trying to make. This phone needs to be breathtaking. Actually, remember the mock invite that went out a while back that had the May 22nd day on it? That showed like a quarter of the bottom of the phone (albeit, a fake render)? That intrigued me. It looked like a distinct break from Sammy's traditional black slab. I kind of want something like that lol
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Ultimately its about end performance, and I used gaming as my main point, one only needing to look at Shadowgun THD to see how much different the experience is.
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All THD games are marketing dollars from Nvidia PR being used at their fullest; from a technical point of view there is absolutely nothing in the THD games that cannot be used on other GPUs, there's cracked versions being able to run on other devices, although they still have some issues, but that's not the point. From a simple consumer's view, yes, they're superior, but from a technical aspect, it's nonsense.
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All THD games are marketing dollars from Nvidia PR being used at their fullest; from a technical point of view there is absolutely nothing in the THD games that cannot be used on other GPUs, there's cracked versions being able to run on other devices, although they still have some issues, but that's not the point. From a simple consumer's view, yes, they're superior, but from a technical aspect, it's nonsense.
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I've been doing a bit of research more in depth like you suggested and you're absolutely right. I guess as it stands, the average consumer, the difference is moot huh? But to those that actually care what goes into their devices, there is a huge difference.
My thanks again!
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It already has flopped in my eyes. A9 processor with the same GPU just overclocked? I could care less about the screen size, RAM, etc. at this point. I was really hoping for that dual core A15 and MaliT6
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It already has flopped in my eyes. A9 processor with the same GPU just overclocked? I could care less about the screen size, RAM, etc. at this point. I was really hoping for that dual core A15 and MaliT6
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And do you want to carry a gas station with you to supply the power? Everybody keep shouting from rooftop that they need A15 with Mali-T6 series, have you EVER considered the fact about power efficiency, battery life and driver optimizations? Or do you want to get a monster phone with 2 hours of battery life? If you were EXPECTING something impractical, then it's your fault, not the OEM's. Did you even read the press release for Exynos 5250 a single time? I can bet that you never did, or you won't be ranting in the threads.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/news_11.html
It says in big bold letters in the heading "Samsung Announces Industry First ARM Cortex-A15 Processor Samples for Tablet Computer". If that's not clear enough for you that this SoC is meant for the Tab line, I can't say anything more.
pacc said:
Actually I believe most specs are already known, and from the past (SI and SII), there aren't many surprises, and usually Samsung is very predictable.
My question is, will it be breathtaking?
I really hope so, but...
SI featured - first smartphone with 4" super amoled + 720p recording + 1Ghz processor etc...
SII featured - first smartphone with 4,3" super amoled plus + 1080p recording + 1.2 dual core processor etc...
SIII - most known specs are already out there (ex. quad core) with HTC, or HD super amoled screen already on Nexus, I really can't find anything outstanding in my point of view.
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GS - 1Ghz SoC + 4" Super AMOLED (Pentile) WVGA + 720p30fps/5MP
GS2 - 1.2Ghz dual + 4.3" Super AMOLED Plus WVGA + 1080p30fps/8MP
SGS3(speculative) - 1.4Ghz Quad 32nm + 4.6/.7 inch Super AMOLED PLUS HD + 1080p/12MP.
No idea on the DAC used, but hope it's Wolfson.
Now I checked around what possible sensor could be used in the SGS3. Like all "leaks", I restricted myself to 12MP sensors and sensors which are now in mass production.
There is only one such sensor - S5K3L1
Details also can be found here: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_12mp_and_8mp_backlit_cameraphone_sensors-news-2310.php
This is 1.12um BSI sensor. Captures images at 30fps at full resolution.
Video - 1080p Full HD @ 60fps, 720p at 90fps and 120fps at VGA.
I believe a definite improve in the camera specs too.
I have posted it many time, but I guess I have to post yet again about Mali400. Look carefully at the numbers:
I am sure they will also include GLONASS along with GPS.
The way I look at it, this is a very decent upgrade from SGS2.
flop
even if this device flops and doesnt turn out to be a decent upgrade
samsung might still sell loads of them
its been done before (iphone 4s anyone?)
opera38205 said:
even if this device flops and doesnt turn out to be a decent upgrade
samsung might still sell loads of them
its been done before (iphone 4s anyone?)
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Lol you have a point. But I guess that beckons the question: Is Samsung at the same level that Apple is that they can release a "4S" type upgrade and expect its consumers to be happy?
I don't think so.. Not yet anyways..
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And do you want to carry a gas station with you to supply the power? Everybody keep shouting from rooftop that they need A15 with Mali-T6 series, have you EVER considered the fact about power efficiency, battery life and driver optimizations? Or do you want to get a monster phone with 2 hours of battery life?
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The S4 uses 28nm architecture, meaning it uses less power than every A9 chip.
If you were EXPECTING something impractical, then it's your fault, not the OEM's. Did you even read the press release for Exynos 5250 a single time? I can bet that you never did, or you won't be ranting in the threads.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/news_11.html
It says in big bold letters in the heading "Samsung Announces Industry First ARM Cortex-A15 Processor Samples for Tablet Computer". If that's not clear enough for you that this SoC is meant for the Tab line, I can't say anything more.
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I promise I've read much more about these chipsets than most members here, I'm not speaking out of my ass. I've seen multiple sources saying that the A15 exynos chip should be due later this year on smartphones. There's not much differentiating a tablet and a smartphone hardware wise aside from the size of the screen, and you really don't think Samsung will release a dual core A15 variant for smartphones soon?
well if S3 does flop(which is very unlikely)
then people will probably buy HTC devides or iphone instead
Android followers are very reasonable lol
S5E4412
People should check The Galaxy S III S5E4412 Processor—A Hacker’s Overview article.
The most interesting thing I noticed was it supports upto 128-bit internal bus. According to comments, Cortex-A8 and A9 cores work on 64 bits at a time, and the Cortex-A15 does 128 bits. So it looks like Samsung pulled the wider NEON unit from the A15 to put in their A9's
Detailed specs for 4412 here:
http://8gpad.com/?p=302
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So us AT&T guys and gals what will you do with your beloved SGS2 when the SGS3 arrives? I mean we are hearing 12 Mpx camera and quad core with possible 4.5 inch screen
well well, MWC is the announcement like I stated earlier.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/28/quad-core-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-to-be-unveiled-at-mwc-2012/
When is the SGS3 being released? My guess is not for quite a while since the GS2 is so popular with all the carriers. For me it doesn't matter as this phone is more than fast enough. And I judge fast by experiencing no lag when opening apps.
A multi core processor, like those in a desktop, really only make a difference in apps that can utilize all cores. I may be wrong but I'm guessing it might be a bit before most apps will.
Besides the SGS2 screen is about as big as I would go on a phone display. 4.5" is getting closer to a small tablet. Also for me, I rarely use the phone's camera for pictures that matter so it doesn't matter much for me.
Sorry, that was one downer of a post. I must still be bitter after my Broncos loss yesterday.
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From an xda/dev community perspective i don't think it'll be affected to much. Look at the GSII predecessor, I9000/captivate. Those forums are still going strong with plenty of devs. The captivate already has Ics running pretty smoothly with CM9 alpha! By the time the GSIII comes out, our phones will have some amazing roms with little to no issues(we already have a few).
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I had an iPhone 3g from January 2008 until September 2011. Now I have this phone. Going back to my 3g gave me a very slow experience.
If I can use another phone, and come back to the SGSII and if feels slow, then I'll upgrade.
In other words, ill be here awhile B)
looks like SGS3 is coming Q1 of 2012
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looks like SGS3 is coming Q1 of 2012
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Source please?
Assuming my SGS2 is still running fine I won't do anything when the next one comes out. If it ain't broke don't fix it . I was on an iPhone 3g before this, main reason I upgraded was because my iPhone was so laggy I could barely use it. (well that and I was sick of iOS)
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Blaze9 said:
Source please?
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Every year in February the Galaxy S is released and usually US version arrives in August /Sept
The SGSIII will be so revolutionary and desirable that upon its release it will immediately render all its predecessors inoperable.
I hate these speculative threads.
Miami_Son said:
The SGSIII will be so revolutionary and desirable that upon its release it will immediately render all its predecessors inoperable.
I hate these speculative threads.
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So if you hate these threads why chime in?
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No way are they gonna release sgs3 q1 2012. I read somewhere, can't remember where, that the a15 processor they are releasing with the sgs3 won't even be ready till q3 2012, which means it'll probably be around the end of summer 2012.
From what i can make out of the screen shot it says it has 2gb RAM, 12 mp camera, 2 ghz exynos 5250, and a 4.6 in HD Super AMOLED + display... I may marry this damn phone.
heres a lil teaser... lol http://www.techradar.com/images/zoom/samsung-galaxy-s3-1033039/index1 and heres a piece on the Exynos that'll be in the gs3... http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-to-be-powered-by-2ghz-dual-core-chip-1044595 WAIT!! HOLD THE PHONES!!! QUAD CORE BABY!!! (which would make sense considering HTC already announced a wuad core device) http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...alaxy-s3-to-be-quad-core-mind-blower--1042710
Sales of the GS2 are doing to well to warrant a release of a new model in February especially with the recent release of the skyrocket. The only speculation I've seen from any site is second half of next year. I doubt it will have quad core as well as they have much faster dual core up their sleeves. i think quad core is going to be overkill until they can milk the dual core architecture
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Sales of the GS2 are doing to well to warrant a release of a new model in February especially with the recent release of the skyrocket. The only speculation I've seen from any site is second half of next year. I doubt it will have quad core as well as they have much faster dual core up their sleeves. i think quad core is going to be overkill until they can milk the dual core architecture
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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Exactly! Also if you follow the release of the galaxy line its always Feb internationally and august summer
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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Besides we have to realize by February the gs2 will be a year old international version
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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A few mistakes i think. Correct me if im wrong
1. The HTC Edge is the phone think youre refering to as the ville is reported to be a dual core. I have not seen anything suggesting that the Edge will come out sooner than End Q1/ Early Q2 which is why i jumped on the GS2
2. I thought the GS2 was initially released in April not February.
3. Im not familiar with android and its apps coding but ive have indeed done searching to see if it could actually take advantage of quad core. I found little info but what i did find suggested it that it currently doesnt really stress dual core phone enough to suggest much of an improvement jumping to quad core. Developers could probably shed light on this and i would love their feed back. Ive been meaning to make a thread on this.
4. You are right a quad core will beat a dual core but only in an enviornment that would take advantage of 4 threads. If these android device are not going to really use the 2 extra threads then mhz and cache are going tdo be the things to improve on. I dont want quad corw if its going drain the **** out of my battery for minimal peformance gains.
Samsung is claiming that thier 2ghz 5250 is twice as fast as their 1.5ghz dual A9 core offerings which sounds like more power than these phone are going to use. Unless these higher res screen are ggoing to make that big of an impact and thats really gpu side performance .
OP, you left out 2 crucial details- for one, how much will it run us/will ATT get in AND will they butcher it (like Skyrocket came to be) or not? I honestly feel we struck insane luck w/ GS2 being left mostly untouched and I don't forsee this happening again anytime soon.
well from what i have been told all Galaxy S phones will be left almost untouched from SGS2 forward. The agreement seems to be as long as its galaxy S it stays almost untouched. The captivate previous and skyrocket are variants not SGS therefore the mostly at&t differentiation. The SGS3 will follow like the SGS2, ps the Galaxy Nexus is coming to AT&T in February http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/google/android/galaxy-nexus-coming-to-att-in-february/
Well hopefully they will figure out to get Exynos to work with the LTE chipsets.
im thinking that will be a definite, a matter of short time really
I might have to wait to see this in person :
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/27/samsu...-1-5ghz-quad-core-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
June? If so any regret?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516924
[RUMOR] and source is BGR....a serious RAG of a blog.
Of course there will be bigger better phones coming out around every corner. I think we all understood quad-core phones were coming soon.....but most of us got The Note for it's screen size.
Regrets, NO
FULL DISCLOSURE: I hate BGR
I stopped reading at "BGR".
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I might have to wait to see this in person :
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/27/samsu...-1-5ghz-quad-core-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
June? If so any regret?
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No regrets for following reasons:
I was NOT gonna hang on to my old Cappy for another 5 months when the old girl had barely been chugging along since the fall.
I will believe the hype around quad-core processors when I see it in action. Hard to believe that performance will so outpace dual-core processors by enough for the casual user (me) to notice, and I'm also nearly certain that the first quad-core devices will be battery chompers.
-Ryan
Love my Note, regrets = NO.
but's it's battle for my wife S3 or IP5
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[RUMOR] and source is BGR....a serious RAG of a blog.
Of course there will be bigger better phones coming out around every corner. I think we all understood quad-core phones were coming soon.....but most of us got The Note for it's screen size.
Regrets, NO
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Yeah me too I read it at http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/ which cited BGR.. still (its own quad didn't surprise me) but 1080p!
Still curious about its battery & speaker/s (hopefully more impressive than the Note's speaker). Would it have been so hard for Samsung to launch the Note with ICS in February? Does the Nexus have some kind of phone ICS exclusivity until March as some Samsung rep suggested to me at the Note launch..?
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No regrets for following reasons:
I was NOT gonna hang on to my old Cappy for another 5 months when the old girl had barely been chugging along since the fall.
I will believe the hype around quad-core processors when I see it in action. Hard to believe that performance will so outpace dual-core processors by enough for the casual user (me) to notice, and I'm also nearly certain that the first quad-core devices will be battery chompers.
-Ryan
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The quad core battery efficiency is God-like, actually. All quad cores are going to have an "idle core" like Tegra 3 has to rely on when sleeping/under light load. My experience with transformer prime is that quad cores give sick performance and WONDERFUL battery life. I imagine this is why all of these new superphones announced at MWC today that are using he new Krait S4's (dual core but 28nm process makes it very efficient) and Tegra 3 processors have 1800 maH batteries or less. We'll see but I expect battery life to be sick on these phones, based on my experience with Tegra 3 thus far.
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Everyone knows iBGR is not a reliable source..
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While I have no faith in the reliability of these two sources and as a result don't pay much mind to anything that they and other such sites write, I still find reading the comments section of articles like those very much entertaining.
For example,
Person 1: What will be the marketing price?
Person 2: Most coments sayng its fake :O
Person 1: Even I think so .. It dont even have single button ..
What Apple cant even do
Uh. Galaxy Nexus? Hmmm. Some of those iSheep never cease to amaze me with their ignorance.
Another common topic:
"um. doesn't ceramic shatter ridiculously easily?"
"Won't it shatter if you drop it?"
"Ceramic = Heavy as hell? no?"
Granted, they are stating it in a question form, showing they truly don't know **** about ceramics and their wide array of characteristics. At least there are some other comment posters that know about ceramics and will hopefully quell the blind ignorance. It just amuses me when people spew about a product and bash it about something that they are completely wrong about. People need t do more research.
Lastly, I love when people bash a phone over it's size. That's just blatant bias in the most obvious form.
"I don't see the value in making the screen 4.8" (what happened to normal sized phones?)"
4.8" may not be normal to some, but it is perfectly normal to somebody with large hands such as myself. In fact, using an iPhone is cumbersome to me, so their normal sized phone is in fact "not normal" to me. I hate when people state their own opinions and biases as fact. I will see my note as a big middle finger to all people who care about my phone's size. It's my phone, piss off and worry about your own life. I already have people shocked with the size of my Infuse, and I just laugh saying it's the best phone I've ever used by far, mostly due to the size. However, that is not true for everybody, and I let them know that I like the size of such phones because my hands are huge.
How can you state something like the "phone is too big"? It should be, "this phone is too big for me." See what I did there? removing bias makes your statements so much less controversial and fanboy hate-inducing. Most of these people fail to realize that nobody really gives a flying fack about some other random person's opinion on the internet. Or at least they shoudn't, but sadly (or maybe more entertainingly) people get dragged into arguments on tech blogs all due to the fact that they cannot recognize bias and opinion, and cannot distinguish between those and fact. I can't believe these tech sites get away with so much heavy bias and still continue to rack up the views. Granted, I contributed a view, but an unbiased one at that.
I don't have any problem with people commenting on these sites with their opinions about a device, but they should leave it at that, an opinion, and not try to state it as fact. Overall, I am proud of Android users in the way that they tend to be the more calm, collect, and unbiased commenters compared to a lot of iSheep. Both sides have their radicals, but I think the Apple slaves tip the scales with crazy. Haha. Provides good entertainment to say the least. =]
Err0xx said:
The quad core battery efficiency is God-like, actually. All quad cores are going to have an "idle core" like Tegra 3 has to rely on when sleeping/under light load. My experience with transformer prime is that quad cores give sick performance and WONDERFUL battery life. I imagine this is why all of these new superphones announced at MWC today that are using he new Krait S4's (dual core but 28nm process makes it very efficient) and Tegra 3 processors have 1800 maH batteries or less. We'll see but I expect battery life to be sick on these phones, based on my experience with Tegra 3 thus far.
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I'm glad someone with TF201 experience spoke up, I still want to see a TF700 series with its 1080p display+improved GPS-wireless.
In all the coverage at MWC of quad core phones with these smallish batteries, I'm still surprised there aren't more inquiries into battery life specs..especially with LTE.
BTW, why didn't AT&T include a LTE off switch for the I717?
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BTW, why didn't AT&T include a LTE off switch for
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They never did for any phone, not even a 3G off switch for 3G phones. Easier to push you into the data overage and charge you more $$$.
BTW, current Tegra 3 phones are not compatible with LTE radio. So, if and when GS3 comes to AT&T, it may not be Tegra 3. It has already been confirmed that HTC's new One X for AT&T will be Snapdragon S4 dual-core instead of Tegra 3.
However, according to the reports, Tegra 3 compatible LTE radio chip will be available 2 months down the road. So, that could be why GS3 is delayed.
Hope AT&T doesn't do what they did with the HTC One X and turn that quad core into a dual core snap dragon for the LTE radio
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They never did for any phone, not even a 3G off switch for 3G phones. Easier to push you into the data overage and charge you more $$$.
BTW, current Tegra 3 phones are not compatible with LTE radio. So, if and when GS3 comes to AT&T, it may not be Tegra 3. It has already been confirmed that HTC's new One X for AT&T will be Snapdragon S4 dual-core instead of Tegra 3.
However, according to the reports, Tegra 3 compatible LTE radio chip will be available 2 months down the road. So, that could be why GS3 is delayed.
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No LTE switch hacks?
"1.5GHz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor" unlike current Tegra 3 is supposed to be LTE compatible.
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"1.5GHz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor" unlike current Tegra 3 is supposed to be LTE compatible.
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It's the other way around. Currently most LTE smartphones use Qualcomm radio chip which supports HSPA+ and LTE. But current chip requires Qualcomm CPU. There is a new chip from Qualcomm out soon that supports CMDA, HSPA+ and LTE and will drop the Qualcomm CPU requirement. That will be the chip used in iPhone5.
So, unless Samsung packs its own LTE radio chip AND AT&T is willing to accept Samsung's LTE radio, it's not going to work.
Price
what will be the price of this phone??
Scythe024 said:
Hope AT&T doesn't do what they did with the HTC One X and turn that quad core into a dual core snap dragon for the LTE radio
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The Qualcomm dual core beats the nvidia quad core in benchmarks.
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That actually is one of the rumors going around the web...it may have the quad and compatible lte radio.
Looks like the one x did drop its rumored quadcore as well.
As you have seen me post befor..."sammy" told me on the 11th that the s3 will have the next gen snapdragon 1.5 dual core because of heat/battery consumption
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It's the other way around. Currently most LTE smartphones use Qualcomm radio chip which supports HSPA+ and LTE. But current chip requires Qualcomm CPU. There is a new chip from Qualcomm out soon that supports CMDA, HSPA+ and LTE and will drop the Qualcomm CPU requirement. That will be the chip used in iPhone5.
So, unless Samsung packs its own LTE radio chip AND AT&T is willing to accept Samsung's LTE radio, it's not going to work.
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That actually is one of the rumors going around the web...it may have the quad and compatible lte radio.
Looks like the one x did drop its rumored quadcore as well.
As you have seen me post befor..."sammy" told me on the 11th that the s3 will have the next gen snapdragon 1.5 dual core because of heat/battery consumption
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That's the rumor, also I wouldn't be surprised to see the following as its rear camera sensor:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/samsung-8mp-backside-illuminated-zsl/
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That's the rumor, also I wouldn't be surprised to see the following as its rear camera sensor:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/samsung-8mp-backside-illuminated-zsl/
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better camera sensors are great but would be nice to see optics upgraded and talked about more. Megapixles and sensors are important but optics are what makes great pics.
Without a doubt, HTC and tmo have released some pretty amazing devices, Sensation, Amaze, Mytouch 4g slide, etc... Now, the One is coming to tmo, would you upgrade to it?
Here's my opinion, apperently, the model Us carriers will get will be dual-core, because apperently LTE is not compatible with quad core CPUs. I think one of the disadvantages of getting the One is that when LTE comes out, we won't be able to use it. But, tmo's 4g is pretty good already. So, would I upgrade? Yes. Hd screen, ICS with sense 4.0, 8mp cam, to take 1080p vids and pics at the same time, pretty good.
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Title is misleading because it is, also yes I will upgrade. I'm very big on photo's and the camera wouldn't be the same on the Amaze, the sensors are outstanding! Smart Flash! Sense 4.0 and way more development because the ones are a world phone! It's faster than the amaze and all benchmark test that i have seen and its running stock! Imagine custom roms! Even thought quadrant itsn't everything! Plus its smaller and thinner. Beats audio integration throughout the whole phone! I know dsp manager is their but i hate opening it all the time. So yes when it comes out I am getting the one s hands down! Also! the one S is dual core so theirs no LTE Problem im pretty sure Tmo will make it so we can use our phones otherwise thats bad marketing. Also a better front camera which will help with video conferencing I can't wait.
One X
Its a very nice phone, definitely some nice minor upgrades over the amaze but to me it isn't worth it. I've decided to stick with the amaze and see what the Galaxy S III has to offer. I want a quad core phone with an Hd screen, I won't settle for something with capacitive buttons(with the amaze as an exception) especially now that android 4.0 supports buttons on the touch screen.
It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
I know the minute i get an HTC One device, and find a happy home for my amaze, google wallet will be available for the amaze 4g.. With some awesome promo. Not that much of an upgrade. Im perfectly happy with my camera. Not worth it. I have a standard camera for that.
I forgot which Android blog, but I just read about a "reliable" rumor that tmo is gonna get the one x without lte capabilities (ie the international quad-core version, cuz the hspa+ is good enough they say) and it's likely going to be a "G" device - like the G1, G2, etc. which means it'll be vanilla ics.
If this is true I know exactly where every single dev is going...and I'm gonna try my hardest to follow, haha.
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I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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Agreed, not much more to say. Excellent summary, my good man. Haha
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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I put cross fire bridges on the first two and the second two...
ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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+1 all the One S has over the amaze is s4 processor (which i believe is better than t3) dual channel ram, and maybe a slightly better camera. (im sure its just software though)
I will not be upgrading. I can't express how good of a phone the amaze is. Its very unique looking (front maybe looks like a sensation but the back is very nice) it has an amazing build quality, it out preforms my daily tasks. Phone/SMS/Video/Pictures and a game here and there. The Amaze is still a great phone and i believe it will still be a good phone even when T3 and S4 chips come out. Once we achieve S-OFF i think there will be more developers for the amaze.
I dont know how you guys are upgrading so fast. I recently got my Amaze, and this phone just came out in oCtober of last year? not even 6 months ago. It is still a pretty expensive phone. I would rather stick with amaze love the camera and recording buttons, the 2mp front facing camera, the amazing 8Mp camera, and how reliable it is, no dropped calls or anything
I've preordered the HTC One X from Expansys. I have an Amaze and love it (I'm typing this post on it)....but I'm still excited to get the quad core version of the One X...
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already but I read last night that the X one my come to tmobile as the next G series phone and my be stock Ics!!!
Check it out over here at the rumor farm -
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/sma...e-to-get-stock-android-4-0-and-quad-core-cpu/
Too bad I really needed a new phone in December. Otherwise this was exactly what I was waiting for! O well...
Good thing about owning the amaze is its new enough to where when the new line rolls out, we can sit back for a bit, watch development, and catch it at a better price down the road
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I'm happy with the screen on the Amaze, SuperLCD? I've had a SGS2 owner admit that mine has nicer color, clarity, etc.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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The one s has a dual core, the overseas version of the one X has a dualcore. I'm not sure about the S4, i hear its nice but what has me leaning to the quadcore is that i hear it has a small core to help save battery?
According to this article, it's true. Featured: Verizon wireless turns down HTC’s ONE series in favor of Droid Incredible 4G LTE
There are some similarities between the incredible 4G and the one series of devices. The incredible 4G will carry beats audio, support for HTC’s Media Link video system, and will run on Android’s newest version of the operating system 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. While it shares these traits however, some things are different as it will not house the same 1.5 ghz dual core snapdragon S4 from qualcomm, but a slower 1.2 ghz dual core model. It also doesn’t use the image sense camera processor that is found in the One line of devices.
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So not only will it not have the ImageSense chip, but it will also not have the beastly s4 chip either. I don't see how this would be any sort of upgrade over the Rezound. The only thing it has going for it is native sense 4.0(although our Sense 4.0 ROMS are coming along great),bettery battery life(due to lower pixel density screen and larger mAh battery), and a 4" screen(for those that prefer it). The only thing I can infer is that the article meant to state that it was the same S4 chip, but just an underclocked version. Let's hope I'm right.
Edit: I've been aware that there are many different versions of the s4 chips, so it still is the s4. My apologies.
It's still an S4, just running at 1.2Ghz.
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It's still an S4, just running at 1.2Ghz.
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This article says otherwise.
graymonkey44 said:
This article says otherwise.
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its an s4 clocked at 1.2, same chip, different clock speed, probably to improve battery life.
It almost sounds like a S3.5
graymonkey44 said:
This article says otherwise.
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It states it's getting a slower dual core, it doesn't say it's not an S4...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/7/3006119/droid-incredible-4g-lte-hands-on
While not technically a "One" device from HTC, it nevertheless has respectable specs for a 2012 phone: 960 x 540 Super LCD, 1.2GHz dual-core Snapdragon S4, and Android 4.0 with HTC's latest iteration of Sense.
does that clear it up?
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its an s4 clocked at 1.2, same chip, different clock speed, probably to improve battery life.
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It says it "as it will not house the same 1.5 ghz dual core snapdragon S4 from qualcomm". This can be interpretted that it doesn't have an s4 in it all together. Or that there are different versions of the s4 chip. I am aware that every other website states that it does have the s4 chip in it. I'm just questioning the inconsitency of this article or stating the possibility.
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It almost sounds like a S3.5
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Except for there's no such thing. It's an S4, just running at 1.2GHz.
There's lots of different versions of the S4, ranging from 1GHz all the way up to 1.7GHz.
Yeah, my apologies, there are 3 different s4 chips that have a 1.2 ghz processor. So it could be the MSM8230, MSM8630, or MSM8930.
It is still AN S4, just not the SAME S4. It is probably the 8930 instead of the One's 8960. Check this chart from Qualcomm:
developer.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
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If it is the 8930, it would be a world phone, and the GPU would be not as nice as the 8960, but the memory is single channel instead of dual channel, and of course the display is qhd, and the camera isn't as tricked out.
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Yeah, my apologies, there are 3 different s4 chips that have a 1.2 ghz processor. So it could be the MSM8230, MSM8630, or MSM8930.
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First of all, I'm upset with the fact you would even post a thread that insinuates the Droid Inc 4G would NOT have an S4 when there has been no reports otherwise.
Second of all, you still don't know what your talking about listing random model numbers of upcoming S4 processors.
The 8230 is NOT an LTE chip, and neither is the 8630. The only possibility you mention is the the MSM8930, of which you fail to see the importance of such a claim. The MSM8930, as well as it's non-LTE brethren you also mentioned, has an Adreno 305 GPU. The Adreno 305 GPU would be the latest GPU we've seen in a while, which would lead to much more interest in the chipset of this phone.
Now I am not insinuating that the phone does have the MSM8930, I have no proof of that, though it does seem like that is a possibility, but it is also possible the phone has an underclocked version of another S4 for improved battery life.
Source 1: en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28system_on_chip%29
Source 2: developer.qualcomm .com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
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First of all, I'm upset with the fact you would even post a thread that insinuates the Droid Inc 4G would NOT have an S4 when there has been no reports otherwise.
Second of all, you still don't know what your talking about listing random model numbers of upcoming S4 processors.
The 8230 is NOT an LTE chip, and neither is the 8630. The only possibility you mention is the the MSM8930, of which you fail to see the importance of such a claim. The MSM8930, as well as it's non-LTE brethren you also mentioned, has an Adreno 305 GPU. The Adreno 305 GPU would be the latest GPU we've seen in a while, which would lead to much more interest in the chipset of this phone.
Now I am not insinuating that the phone does have the MSM8930, I have no proof of that, though it does seem like that is a possibility, but it is also possible the phone has an underclocked version of another S4 for improved battery life.
Source 1: en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28system_on_chip%29
Source 2: developer.qualcomm .com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
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Chill out. This is General. He can post here if he wants.
The phone is a disappointment specs wise regardless of the processor. You don't look at the processor you look at the screen. Huge step back for a new phone
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MSM8930 does look like the only option for LTE+CDMA @ 1.2Ghz
con247 said:
MSM8930 does look like the only option for LTE+CDMA @ 1.2Ghz
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Which would make it another world phone. Assuming the radios and antennas support it.
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Which would make it another world phone. Assuming the radios and antennas support it.
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Probably. But if they don't want it to be a world phone like the Rezound (obviously they decided against it at some point) they will probably leave out the required antennas or radio code.
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Chill out. This is General. He can post here if he wants.
The phone is a disappointment specs wise regardless of the processor. You don't look at the processor you look at the screen. Huge step back for a new phone
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this assumes that everyone's desire for a phone is a bigger screen and higher resolution....which isn't the case
personally i like the 4 inch screen over bigger ones, and i have a tablet if i need to watch videos/browse on a huge screen
screen aside, its hard to call the other specs a "huge step back"...you could be disappointed that its not some *superphone* that blows away anything that came before it but it still has
1gb of ram (same as all other top tier phones)
s4 processor (yes less powerful than one x doesnt need to power a 4.7 inch hd screen)
only 2nd vzw phone (and first non nexus) to launch with ics
bluetooth 4.0
nfc
the combination of a qhd screen and its processor should yield (read should) very good battery life for a lte htc phone
obviously if you have a rezound, its not going to be worth an upgrade in all likelyhood (unless you just dont like the rezound for w/e reason), but frustration aside at not getting a one x or equivalent on vzw theres no reason to trash the phone
the complaints sound similar to ones hurled at the inc2, and despite its relative lack of popularity it was a very solid, snappy mid-tier phone with awesome battery life...so if this its lte equivalent, count me in
This IS the vzw one series. Vzw is butthurt about their DROID line so they gave ir that title. I its like the evo 4G lte. Still considered part of the one series, and just not officially with that name. I and it's an s4 just clocked at 1.2. They will be able to oc it in like a week though so it doesn't matter.
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fernando sor said:
Chill out. This is General. He can post here if he wants.
The phone is a disappointment specs wise regardless of the processor. You don't look at the processor you look at the screen. Huge step back for a new phone
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this assumes that everyone's desire for a phone is a bigger screen and higher resolution....which isn't the case
personally i like the 4 inch screen over bigger ones, and i have a tablet if i need to watch videos/browse on a huge screen
screen aside, its hard to call the other specs a "huge step back"...you could be disappointed that its not some *superphone* that blows away anything that came before it but it still has
1gb of ram (same as all other top tier phones)
s4 processor (yes less powerful than one x doesnt need to power a 4.7 inch hd screen)
only 2nd vzw phone (and first non nexus) to launch with ics
bluetooth 4.0
nfc
the combination of a qhd screen and its processor should yield (read should) very good battery life for a lte htc phone
obviously if you have a rezound, its not going to be worth an upgrade in all likelyhood (unless you just dont like the rezound for w/e reason), but frustration aside at not getting a one x or equivalent on vzw theres no reason to trash the phone
the complaints sound similar to ones hurled at the inc2, and despite its relative lack of popularity it was a very solid, snappy mid-tier phone with awesome battery life...so if this its lte equivalent, count me in
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agree. 720p screen is nice, but it seems to kill battery. I still prefer the 4.3 over 4, but other specs are on par or better than rezound.
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This IS the vzw one series. Vzw is butthurt about their DROID line so they gave ir that title. I its like the evo 4G lte. Still considered part of the one series, and just not officially with that name. I and it's an s4 just clocked at 1.2. They will be able to oc it in like a week though so it doesn't matter.
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No, that's not the case at all. Verizon came out and said so. It doesn't share specs with any One device. I used to think that too, but its clear now that the Dinc4g is not a One device. It's a Dinc.
I found this video, as I was comparing the benefits of S3 over an S2.
I thought, that the 4 cores would have made a difference in opening apps and surfing with the browser.
But there is hardly any difference??
Do you think, that the developers will work towards the 4-core processors or not?
I think it will take another few years, till the quadcore will be used appropriately. Till then, the S3 will be replaced by newer models.
As sad as it is, most probably quadcore development will start as soon as apple decides using quadcores.
What do you think about this video? And what benefits are left to buy the S3 if everything is the same?
Pointless. This video was posted weeks ago.
I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. My HTC one s, is much smoother and quicker than my gs3. We're it not for the fantastic screen I would keep the HTC. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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I found this video, as I was comparing the benefits of S3 over an S2.
I thought, that the 4 cores would have made a difference in opening apps and surfing with the browser.
But there is hardly any difference??
Do you think, that the developers will work towards the 4-core processors or not?
I think it will take another few years, till the quadcore will be used appropriately. Till then, the S3 will be replaced by newer models.
As sad as it is, most probably quadcore development will start as soon as apple decides using quadcores.
What do you think about this video? And what benefits are left to buy the S3 if everything is the same?
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i dont agree with u on that. S2, no doubt is still among the top phones in the world but not after release of S3! S3 has quad core, it opens apps in almost double the time it used to open on my s2 or even Note! as far as the development for the quad core is concerned, samsung is a pretty mean and biased manufacturers when it comes to taking the crown in almost any field! they would not let any smartphone beat their flagship at least until the release of S4! what i found after using my S3 for 4 days is that quad cores of s3 are actually not fully unleashed until now, thats the reason samsung is not giving out new roms with real good performance boosts! samsung is working on providing the best possible roms and updates to the s3! it would not leave its flagship alone! i did exactly everything the guy in the video was doing and i find my s3 much faster than his! and btw, i have not rooted or flashed the phone at all untill now! its just out of the box rom!
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I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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Totally agree.
well as android move forward, google will have no choice but to add 4 core support in jelly bean
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Yeah the OP is right Quad-Core is useless lets ditch the Quad, Hex core CPU and lets go back to the good old E5300.
I can't believe people, honestly.
Regardless if the SII is slower or not....being a dual core up against a brand new quad core.....the SII is a bad ass.
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cba1986 said:
Yeah the OP is right Quad-Core is useless lets ditch the Quad, Hex core CPU and lets go back to the good old E5300.
I can't believe people, honestly.
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No one is saying that. It's just useless for this generation until software starts actually being able to use it in the future.
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No one is saying that. It's just useless for this generation until software starts actually being able to use it in the future.
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Yep this is what I was saying.
I think the 2GB RAM and maybe LTE would have been more effective for this generation, than the quadcore. The Koreans are rumored to have both Perks
dont agree with u on that. S2, no doubt is still among the top phones in the world but not after release of S3! S3 has quad core, it opens apps in almost double the time it used to open on my s2 or even Note! as far as the development for the quad core is concerned, samsung is a pretty mean and biased manufacturers when it comes to taking the crown in almost any field! they would not let any smartphone beat their flagship at least until the release of S4! what i found after using my S3 for 4 days is that quad cores of s3 are actually not fully unleashed until now, thats the reason samsung is not giving out new roms with real good performance boosts! samsung is working on providing the best possible roms and updates to the s3! it would not leave its flagship alone! i did exactly everything the guy in the video was doing and i find my s3 much faster than his! and btw, i have not rooted or flashed the phone at all untill now! its just out of the box rom!
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Oh is your S3 faster than the one in the Video?
SGS2 - 800x480 = 384,000 pixels
SGS3 - 1280x720= 921,600 pixels
what you tits don't realize is that the SGS3, with it's magnificent 720p resolution screen, has to push a whopping 2.4x more pixels than the SGS2 - making the quad-core vital in providing a fast, fluid and buttery smooth experience - which surpasses even the SGS2 (with its ****ty resolution) making it an even more impressive feat in engineering.
It simply blazes past devices with similar screens and resolution and makes them seem laggy (Gnex, Note, One X)
Hence, the SGS3's main feature isn't merely it having a quad-core processor, it's actually utilizing that quad-core processor to provide a the fastest, most seamless and unmatched user experience at such a high resolution.
I like poketnow, but I do think this video and the whole notion of the s3 being as fast as the s2 is wrong in my opinion I got my s3 a few days ago, and I still have and use my s2 clocked at 1.4ghz, and it is defiantly more laggy and slower. Web rendering was so much faster and smoother (although it was just as smooth as GB used to be on the s2 before Samsung screwed up ICS for the s2), and opening the same cpu intensive apps put the s2 to shame. Yes when opening things like the phone, or messaging app there was no difference and I won't expect them to be, as how it opens instantaneously on my s2 anyway, so there is so room for speed improvements. Also, I remember sites saying there wasn't much difference between the s1 and s2 speed wise when the s2 came out, and looking back now the s2 feels sooo much faster than the s1 simply because there are a lot more complicated and cpu intensive apps compared to a year ago. In other words I do think my s3 is much faster than my s2.
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I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. My HTC one s, is much smoother and quicker than my gs3. We're it not for the fantastic screen I would keep the HTC. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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Really? It seems people have very different perceptions. My previous phone the Qualcomm S4 HTC One X stuttered like someone on withdrawal from heroin so I went to try all the HTC One X and One S display models I could to see if it was just my handset. It wasn't and the One S was also a stuttery mess.
Funny how different perceptions can be.
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what you tits don't realize is that the SGS3, with it's magnificent 720p resolution screen, has to push a whopping 2.4x more pixels than the SGS2 - making the quad-core vital in providing a fast, fluid and buttery smooth experience - which surpasses even the SGS2 (with its ****ty resolution) making it an even more impressive feat in engineering.
It simply blazes past devices with similar screens and resolution and makes them seem laggy (Gnex, Note, One X)
Hence, the SGS3's main feature isn't merely it having a quad-core processor, it's actually utilizing that quad-core processor to provide a the fastest, most seamless and unmatched user experience at such a high resolution.
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Dude save it.....I mean give me a break. If this is no the most blatant fan boy post I have ever read. The SGS3 is still pushing 720p to a pentile display....compared to SGS2s super amoled plus..... Its a great phone but compared to the OneX its only marginal in most areas. Nobody said the SGSII was better....just how comparable it is. To top it off I have read many posts that say the quad core does get shuttters so save it...that wasn't no BLAZING SPEED they were just showing in the video.....lay off the pipe.
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In all honesty, anything the sg3 can do, the s2 can. Its a jump in performance, but the s2 is already pretty fast. The only reason I'm upgrading will be lte capabilities.
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Dude save it.....I mean give me a break. If this is no the most blatant fan boy post I have ever read. The SGS3 is still pushing 720p to a pentile display....compared to SGS2s super amoled plus..... Its a great phone but compared to the OneX its only marginal in most areas. Nobody said the SGSII was better....just how comparable it is. To top it off I have read many posts that say the quad core does get shuttters so save it...that wasn't no BLAZING SPEED they were just showing in the video.....lay off the pipe.
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It seems as if you're in denial. The SGS2's chipset got a similar resolution pentile screen and that lagged like no tomorrow. the quad core in the GS3 was necessary to make the experience lag free.
And the SGS3 is quite a bit faster and smoother than the One X (Tegra3 - i haven't used the krait one). Try loading up NOVA3 on both, or browsing the web, or anything for that matter.
Note: i'm not discounting the fact that the One X isn't a great phone. It has it's points that best the SGS3 but speed and smoothness is clearly NOT one of them.
I've had both One X devices. AT&T branded and the International version. I also had the GS2 International. The GS3 (Quad Core), hands down, blows them all away as far as performance goes.
Milliseconds starting apps etc doesn't matter, what matters is the Smoothness. The S3 is far more smoother then s2! Someone who tried cm9,is it smoother / faster then stock.?
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It's probably better to post this in the SII section where more people will agree with and not have to argue about it here. The people who are here not to troll are likely going to get an SIII anyway, no matter how good the SII is. Same goes for One X supporters. It's fair to make informed comparison, but don't be an authority over other people choices. Wasn't there already a dedicated thread for comparison:
Official Reviews, Previews and Comparisons as they come thread
Galaxy S3 vs Galaxy S2
Ascertion said:
In all honesty, anything the sg3 can do, the s2 can. Its a jump in performance, but the s2 is already pretty fast. The only reason I'm upgrading will be lte capabilities.
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It can't record video with the same quality lag- free.
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